Reason for People Crossed Paths....?

[apokalypse]

Husband, Wife Crossed Paths in Home Video at Theme Park 16 Years Before They Met..
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http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/husband-wife-crossed-paths-home-video-theme-park/story?id=29759661

i don't what to say and how to title this thread but kind of give me chill think about it...i do think people cross path for a reason.

[aranuk]

Hi Apokalypse, according to Rudolf Steiner karmic groups are around 8-12 people. He tells us that it is said in the bible that human souls are sown in handfuls. The idea here is that we incarnate and meet again the people we had karmic ties with in the immediate past life. Steiner said that the people we chose as friends after we are the age of 30 are most likely the souls who in the last life were family members i.e. mother, father, siblings, wives, husbands etc. The family members in this present lifetime were our friends we chose in the previous lifetimes. This continues until the karmic debts are repaid sort of thing. If we consider those who are our close friends in this lifetime we can assume they were close family members in the last lifetime. Just think to the time we met a close friend for the first time, there seemed to be an instant recognition of familiarity was there not? It certainly has been in my own life. In my life there is definitely a slight recognition of my friends family members as somewhat connected. Well they could have been the friends of our own families in the last life. We would have been aware perhaps of their existence in the last life. On and on it goes.

I would agree with Steiner as in my own life I have fallen out with a number of friends for no apparent reason. I have had close friends for many years that I have fallen out with for the flimsiest reasons indicating to me that there was a Karmic debt being settled out of which there was no reason whatsoever in this lifetime at least. It could ONLY have been something Karmic that could explain it. The same could be said with some family members who I now do not communicate with.

Sorry to ramble on.

Stan

[Selkie]

...according to Rudolf Steiner karmic groups are around 8-12 people. He tells us that it is said in the bible that human souls are sown in handfuls...

I think there might be something to this.

[Matt P]

I've got a pretty good one for you...
My wife's mother, step father and his brothers knew my father and his brothers growing up (and into adulthood) but my wife and I never met each other. We found we had each lived in the same duplex (2 apartments in one house) as young children but at different times. We also lived on the same farm but at different times, me as a newborn in the guest house, her as pre-teen in the main house. I met my wife's mother on a random country road while driving with my father. Our cars passed on the road, she and my father recognized each other and we stopped and said hello. I was about 14 or 15-years-old and she said I have a daughter I'd love for you to meet. I thought, "Oh boy" (sarcastically) and we never did. One summer between my junior and senior year in college, I was having a beer with my father in a downtown pub and in walked by future wife. My father introduced me to her but we didn't speak more than quick hellos. I was dressed for the basketball game I had just played and she was dressed to the nines and I thought she's way out of my league. After graduating college I got a job as a server in a restaurant just opening up. Guess who was also there working? Yep. We flirted for a couple months and then finally decided to get together for drinks. She was a smoker at the time and I had never dated a smoker and wasn't crazy about the idea. But after that first time hanging out, we've been inseparable for about 24 years now. 20 year anniversary coming up this year, 2 amazing kids. We should have met so, so many times earlier but never did. Apparently we weren't supposed to meet until a very specific time, or it probably wouldn't have worked. So, yeah, paths cross or don't for a reason...and I am forever in awe.

Matt

[Pweeky]

Matt, that is a great story...it was meant to be.

[Selene]

mpennery, your tale of crossed paths and lover’s destiny is completely delightful.

I have met and worked with so many people in this life that I remember from earlier lives, including my own dear hubby of many years (who also remembers me in our previous lives). I must add that I chose marriage between him and another suitor who was also “from my past” – a lovely man whom I greatly loved and may well rejoin in some future circumstance. But this time… So we do have some choice here, for sure.

But we are perhaps given a certain group of possibilities/companions as part of our life program or life improvisational script in the play that we call "earth lifetime."

Anyway, to build on aranuk’s comments, some philosophers do indeed agree that there are ‘soul groups’ but they also extend these groups out into ever larger concentric circles constituting perhaps hundreds and thousands of people. I tend to agree with that perspective.

My intimate birth family and I have some “issues” and rough edges that are a challenge to me. But I remember them all from other lives, other situations. We’ve come together in this cluster because we wanted to do this, to have a lifetime to sort ourselves out again. And I consider this a priority in this life.

My husband’s family is more removed from me; we are delicate, polite, graceful. Another sort of relationship. They are from a more distant part of my personal galaxy, if I can use that analogy. They are his choices. And I am grateful for their gentle presence in my life.

But so many, many people with whom I have worked, befriended, or crossed paths seem to be part of my larger life. We sometimes do, actually, remember each other - the recognition can sometimes be quite shocking.

And I am certain that my larger groups, for instance my fellow yoga initiates, you my fellow Avalonians, the greater good, the nuns, monks, and even power players and whomever – we are all part of a much larger and fairly old group complex.

We are all here together.

Cheers,

Selene

[RunningDeer]

I was part of a soul group. In 1969, I filled out an application and the secretary set up the interview in the same visit. The problem was that the head office was in the next town over and I didn’t have a license. One of the executives, Paul R., happen to pass by and the secretary asked if he’d give me a ride. He waited and then drove me back.

Several months later, my future husband, Mike and I dated. His parents were eager to meet the new girl friend, who’s only 18 and had her own apartment. I was invited for Sunday dinner. We’d just begun the meal and Mike’s Dad said, “Remember that nice young lady I told you about that I wished you could meet? This is Paula. (me)” I didn’t recognize him right away because I was nervous about meeting my boyfriend’s parents.

Fast forward to 1980 and on to a second marriage and a new job. My husband “CW” found an apartment. I brought my son Michael’s Gramma, my now ex-mother-in-law, over to see the new place. To my surprise, it was the same one they lived in the while they searched for a new home. So my son’s father slept in the same bedroom as Michael did fifteen years earlier.

One last piece that completed the soul circle. When my second husband “CW” and I first dated, he introduced me to one of his buddies. It turned out he was my homeroom teacher. He’d wake me from a power nap at my desk and send me on to class. I worked third shift. I’d run home, shower and run to school. That job was the same one that Paul R. (ex-father-in-law) drove me to for my interview.

RunningDeer <3

[conk]

My wife (now ex) and I were leaving my mother's house one day and drove out the back way. The wife said, "I used to live on that street when I was a little girl". We then figured out that I had ridden my bike up and down her street many times when I was 12 years old. I remembered seeing a young girl, as I rode by, always playing in the yard at the house where she lived. 25 years later we met. Serendipity! Nothing is coincidence.

[aranuk]

mpennery, your tale of crossed paths and lover’s destiny is completely delightful.

I have met and worked with so many people in this life that I remember from earlier lives, including my own dear hubby of many years (who also remembers me in our previous lives). I must add that I chose marriage between him and another suitor who was also “from my past” – a lovely man whom I greatly loved and may well rejoin in some future circumstance. But this time… So we do have some choice here, for sure.

But we are perhaps given a certain group of possibilities/companions as part of our life program or life improvisational script in the play that we call "earth lifetime."

Anyway, to build on aranuk’s comments, some philosophers do indeed agree that there are ‘soul groups’ but they also extend these groups out into ever larger concentric circles constituting perhaps hundreds and thousands of people. I tend to agree with that perspective.

My intimate birth family and I have some “issues” and rough edges that are a challenge to me. But I remember them all from other lives, other situations. We’ve come together in this cluster because we wanted to do this, to have a lifetime to sort ourselves out again. And I consider this a priority in this life.

My husband’s family is more removed from me; we are delicate, polite, graceful. Another sort of relationship. They are from a more distant part of my personal galaxy, if I can use that analogy. They are his choices. And I am grateful for their gentle presence in my life.

But so many, many people with whom I have worked, befriended, or crossed paths seem to be part of my larger life. We sometimes do, actually, remember each other - the recognition can sometimes be quite shocking.

And I am certain that my larger groups, for instance my fellow yoga initiates, you my fellow Avalonians, the greater good, the nuns, monks, and even power players and whomever – we are all part of a much larger and fairly old group complex.

We are all here together.

Cheers,

Selene

Hi Selene, picking up on your comment about sizes of soul groups. To clarify my opinion, let's say for easy explanation I or anyone has 10 close friends and 6 close family members. We could draw a circle and put 16 crosses to represent each member of our soul group. Those 16 people also have 15 other persons and of course myself. They all in turn have another 15. As you say Selene many concentric circles amounting probably to thousands. We all have more influence, good or bad, on and from our own soul group than we do to the others in their groups. We do have a knock on effect with say close friends of our friends, but those people are not in our karmic group.

Has anyone had this experience? On a number of occasions I have introduced two of my very closest friends to each other and my goodness I was shocked when I realised they didn't like each other on first sight! I found it strange. They both have heard of each other as I may have mentioned them to each other maybe many times telling them how much I liked them. It was as if they were extremely jealous of each other. It is a different matter when acquaintances of ours meet they usually do get on well with each other but not our closest friends. Anyone have anything similar?

Stan

[RunningDeer]

For twenty years, I'd drive past this big old farm that was set far, far away. I couldn’t understand the haunting pull to it. As it turned out it wasn’t set far away. It was a metaphor for a time to come.

Three months after my son's passing, I made the decision to start fresh. I went to check out an apartment. A cold feeling came over me when I pulled in. I wasn’t ready, yet feared that I’d be frozen in a time that no longer was.

It took two more months before I grabbed at the local paper and opened it. One listing out of about fifty jumped off the page. My fingers dialed the number. As soon as Lori began the directions, the big old farm popped in my head.

I stepped inside and knew it was mine. From newspaper to agreement, it took less than an hour. That weekend I moved. Through the night, I tip-toed around so as not to wake the neighbors, all boxes unpacked, books stacked, cupboards and closet filled and curtains hung.

This place has magic. Some day it won’t be. It’ll happen as quick as it did when I moved in.

<3

[Meggings]

Apokalypse writes, "I do think people cross path for a reason."
Aranuk writes, "...there seemed to be an instant recognition."
Mpennery writes, "We should have met so, so many times earlier but never did. Apparently we weren't supposed to meet until a very specific time, or it probably wouldn't have worked. So, yeah, paths cross or don't for a reason...and I am forever in awe."
Selene writes, "...script in the play that we call "earth lifetime."
And "We’ve come together in this cluster because we wanted to do this, to have a lifetime to sort ourselves out again."
And "We sometimes do, actually, remember each other - the recognition can sometimes be quite shocking."
Conk and RunningDeer give their "miraculous" coincidences, which are not accidental.

Part of remembering many lifetimes (done by entering into various scenes from those lifetimes), is that I often recognize someone from that other lifetime as being in my present one. I speak with certainty, and know that virtually every one in my close family were in many other lifetimes through the centuries.

I read with some wistfulness of Matt's many near chances to meet his wife years earlier, for life had set up many possible ways I could have met my beloved 20 years before I actually did. How life arranged for our meeting by putting us in close proximity where we lived, where we worked, later where he sent his eldest son to private school, the same one I investigated for my own eldest son. When we finally met it was through my husband seeking him out and bringing him into the family structure - which shows that we come together to SORT THINGS OUT that are left over from other lifetimes.

There was a young fellow my husband loved and treated like his own son, but I could not breathe near this fellow. He always came too close to me and I wanted to run to get away from him. A couple years ago I entered into another lifetime my soul projected in World War II, and saw this young fellow made THAT version of me also have instant dislike. She refused to have him work for her in the resistance because of her instant dislike of him.

We circle round and round each other in an endless dance of life, with strands of energy from other lifetimes still active within us in this current one. I thank all here for writing on this topic, and bringing up such realizations. And we do script our lives, and provide "back up" for when we miss the cues.