Agape
7th May 2015, 20:51
Now please do not mistake the title of the thread for some kind of statement . It's not well fitting to typical 'disclosure category' either that's why I chose the general ET contact board for this post , contemplating what words to use to convey my message with clarity ,
it's a quiet sort of message , perspective of an insider to the subject rather than one of 'observational situationist' . It's an observation though , one I came to after days of silence and years of involvement with this 'pro-disclosure movement' ( whatever it means) ,
in company of similarly oriented , truth seeking and soul analysing individuals all over the globe .
Most what happens in this area happens thanks and due to the internet anyway .
This all goes back to another 'quote' I mentioned once in another post : years ago when I was a newbie on ufocasebook forum, I've heard more than one seasoned ( and somewhat disgruntled ) researcher complaining that internet was the beginning of the end of ufology .
As direct experiencer of ET contact struggling with words that would convey the meaning of our experiences with accuracy ( or an ET trying to link to human world , I leave the choice upon you , non-believers because option one is generally more acceptable if acceptability is in consideration than option 2 ) I felt strongly that it may be the case ,
on the other hand .. I felt there is a vast new platform opening here that may help all of us to share our perspectives and connect the dots .
Now so many years have passed ...
and I believe that many of our perspectives had to evolve , for the better or worse of our 'dear humanity' .
Sometimes I cried on the time that could have been used wisely and more efficiently to help others was lost .
Years before this all started for me I enjoyed life , mostly as long as I could be useful and helpful to others .
The capacity to serve to others is entwined to our well-being , I believe . Life on this planet is far from 'easy' for most people so far and there are countless pains and sufferings to be conquered and/or alleviated .
Buddha taught that 'life is suffering' as his first 'noble truth' but you really don't need to be Buddha to know this .
He taught on examining the causes of suffering within yourself and repairing the 'gross mistakes' with what's called 'the right path' : correct motivations ... mindfulness .. discipline .. ethics ... right speech , taking the right course of action , meditating regularly and not giving up on your right motivations, right views : meaning , avoiding extreme , hurtful views , and hurtful words , and thoughts ,
as antidotes for ignorance , angry temper , envy , jealousy , pride and vane desire .
He taught people to look within for these antidotes to what he called 'mind poisons' , ignorance being the first natural attribute arising in mental causality chain .
There had been many other teachers of mankind who taught and teach the same ,
deeper you go to any psychological or philosophical perspective of religions or sciences further you find yourself from associations with particular 'cult' or trend ,
beyond them all , life and the Universe have laws valid for all of us the same .
Looking outside ... the amount of information is infinite , its limits can be only determined by limitations of this mortal shell of life .
Old Indian proverb says ''True Knowing can not be achieved through study , no matter how much you learned , number of things you did not learn is like the number of Stars in the Sky .''
Guess I've digressed ( this time from my own topic, I always do :) ) .
Back to the 'disclosure field' and 'experiencers' .
The original meaning of 'disclosure' here is something that I consider completely legitimate effort ,
that's where it concerns various authorities to whom hard core data and evidence on existence of ET life - we all understand it means 'intelligent ET life' - on Earth is available ,
to release and share such data with the rest of mankind,
without delay and without covering certain facts or trying to 'improve them' to fit someones individual - national or political perspectives .
This has happened in minor ways till now with various governments releasing 'ufo files' kept by them for decades , for example .
Many people hope - or believe - there is more .. more interest, more data, more evidence , carefully hidden and dealt with covertly behind the steel walls of secret vaults .
The effort to prove this and 'blow the whistle' on existence of such data and evidence had been enormous , I fear even exaggerated , by many individuals who put their lives in danger trying to fight the 'medusa' of various official or semi-official systems .
Many of them lost their lives ( or quality of their lives , health , and so on ) fighting the agendas of these systems but very little has been directly proved .
It may be because the 'universal deceptionist' guide says : lie, lie until there's no option left , ''we give you all the power to do that'' .
It may be true or not . Among the most intelligent people who work in science and are still interested in this topic many doubt this to be the case ,
simply because of 'human factor' .
If you work with people who are constantly under stress on their jobs , have families and lives too , no matter how sophisticated they are, sooner or later you meet their 'human facade ' as well .
They may serve the chimera for some time and suppress their conscience to some deal but there's been no case that people would not break out , and down finally and serve the justice . Someone would have done that .
True , there are so called 'whistleblowers' with many fantastic claims trying to convince you that the reality behind military walls is more similar to some Terminator movies and that their best agents are far better than James Bond and they all work together to produce a 'huuuuge' cover up , one that rules the planet and watches how many spoons of sugar you put to your tea mug and worse ( or can .. ) .
They may go willingly after my words here and delete the words in brackets and fight my correct meaning with stupid accusations of stupidity .
The trick is that these 'so called whistleblowers' have hyper-idea or hypothesis that goes beyond provability and thus, seem to have the 'upper hand' too with many trusting individuals but at the end of the show they call it a quit , before any true revelation has been made that would help to change world opinion dramatically ,
since the crowds of so called 'solid citizens' are faithfully waiting for 'solid facts' .
Oh well . While no conclusion was reached on the above mentioned 'government disclosure' ..
and while , rather logically , the 'perpetrators' ( ironic meaning obviously , from me ) - non-earth-bound ETs can't be forced to disclose themselves ( so far .. ) or even reached for comment ,
disclosure has been happening in multitudes of ways ( I hear someones 'ascended statement' sounding 'in multitude of timelines' ) from those affected the most ,
earth-bound humans , ET vanguards , experiencers of mutual contact of all kind in short .
Many had tried to pour their best to the information field shared by multitudes with leaving little back up for themselves ( and their families ) .
Some of us have gone far beyond where any 'uninitiated' human had gone . I hope that some of you at least realise that I'm not being sarcastic in this observation .
There's not one way or single observable pattern how this has happened or was done - as those skeptical and narrow minded psychology ( and other ) ''experts'' liked to claim earlier and some still do,
I've seen numerous , unique ways how people try to deal with their rather unique ET experiences and myself being on the way , knowing rather intimately the lights and shadows of the 'path' ,
what seems to be common to them all is the 'drive' we feel within us . It's the same powerful energy that we met and its imprints in us ,
the truth of the reality being real rather than what some like to portray as 'perhaps your spiritual experience to deal with' ,
'ascension symptoms' , 'awakening of kundalini' , even 'drug abuse' , wishful thinking in short that could be fixed if you wished yourself better .
How, you don't ? :)
The drive ... that makes some people pour their hearts and almost upload themselves to Google servers .
The drive .. that makes others travel to mountains and deserts and watch stars ... and feel like dying homeless under those stars rather than living in shame among the ridiculously stubborn in opinion , human society .
The drive . After all , it's been the drive that enabled anything big to happen on this planet .
What's so sad about this momentarily is that the drive has often led to dead ends .
Now , to the very core of my message and contemplation ...
though very personal commonly experienced and understandable to many , I believe ..
As I mentioned within this article already , as a 'newbie' to the internet 'disclosure domain' you probably find yourself genuinely excited about the 'possibility' to reach others ,
the option to open yourself about experiences very few ( if any ) around you in real time have ears and minds for ,
the possibility that looks almost limitless . You can learn and teach , no matter whom , but more importantly you can hope .
This initial period that those genuine witnesses and contact experiencers enter with unblemished intents and hearts ( not having time to analyse the rest , the trolls, the pranksters, psychopaths and so forth who flood the internet , so leaving them alone )
may last a year , or two , or much more .. depending on how fast you can read , write and learn generally, depending perhaps on your health and resources , whatever .
Depending on the amount of faith you want to give to humanity and your patience too .
You may also sit on this here for life and try to explain yourself to the minutest detail ''in the name of Disclosure..'' .
Because you know there's substance , there's truth and the truth could be found ... if ...if... there were other people like you who were also so very genuine but also hopeful and also sane . Not necessarily the 'same people' .
People with abilities you don't have for example for none of us have or can use all of our potentials at the same time .
We are all susceptible to this 'human experience' no matter how much we try to resist it .
What happens in the meantime ... is that you start losing time for yourself , time for reflection and the peace you ( perhaps, most probably ) had in store previously .
I know , your good faith and teacher told you that peace is of infinite capacity so are your powers and determination. Did not he/she also tell you to spend yourself wisely ,
and stick to rules . ( Yes they did ) .
Unless they were of 'new age brand' . New age so far, generally , do not feel the need for any rules ..
No rules is very good path if you are in 'final stages of enlightenment ' :ROFL:
Before and after , there are mostly rules of physical , mental and spiritual hygiene one has to follow in order to keep healthy .
I like to call it hygiene because I believe it's what it is . To keep your mind-body continuum functioning in polluted environment , in harmony with the environment ,
even following those rules you can't avoid disease and failure . But being ill all the time is never great .
Sure , physical hygiene is something rather common - though surprisingly , poorly followed by even some well educated people sometimes ,
washing your hands for example :p
Mental and spiritual hygiene is far more difficult to observe and the knowledge on how this should be done is often missing . Back to topic ...
After you find yourself pasted 'all over the net' and uploaded to as many websites possible, followed by as many fans who want to know all from the size of your shoes to what handshake did your ET greet you with ,
and lost the loneliness you wanted to get rid of so much ..
you may find that ~ET~ has gone home too . Because you stopped paying attention really .
There were some mysteries kept only between 'you' and 'them' . They were like the powder on butterflies wings , subtle , beautiful and mysterious .
They trusted you like it if only for that mysterious moment even if you were afraid and disliked the rest .
Now you've called for help to the human contingency . Some of you .. cried , swore , shouted even . You wanted to say all , and you tried .
Well, not everyone can do that .. I believe ... out of 10 'experiencers' may be 1 does , the rest keep things to themselves, some out of fear, others because they lack the possibility , others are far more introvert than to introduce themselves at all .
I believe ...it's good to share and have the experience of sharing with human collective . It's important .
But you may also find yourself caught in the game heavily after some time , haunted by someones desire to interrogate 'the truth' , to make you jealous of 'best speakers' on someone stage, to keep you entrained in the human game ,
to make you dissociated from your self and doing someones job ..
There is a wisdom limit to this all I feel because there's a mystery . Life is a mystery . One of the most beautiful things about truly advanced civilisations in Space is that they respect 'the mystery of Life' ,
in more sensitive way . Art is a mystery ... that's how it's beautiful and original .
When you create thousands of photocopies of Mona Lisa you can have one in your living room, one each but what sense does it make ?
It becomes 'common'. The silver dust is lost ..
It's the 'silver line' , the nano-layer in our minds binding our other-worldly experiences together , as original as your brain is, as soft , flexible and ever changing landscape ,
something you can't replicate no matter how hard you try .
If you break it and mould it to 'beads of evidence' instead, observable under someones microscope they won't get it right, probably, anyway . But you , you may lose the thread ..
it may be your life-line too .
''In the name of Disclosure...'' don't give up on the silver line .. on the subtle , the sacred .
May your God(s) Be with you , the Power .. :coffee::coffee::coffee:
it's a quiet sort of message , perspective of an insider to the subject rather than one of 'observational situationist' . It's an observation though , one I came to after days of silence and years of involvement with this 'pro-disclosure movement' ( whatever it means) ,
in company of similarly oriented , truth seeking and soul analysing individuals all over the globe .
Most what happens in this area happens thanks and due to the internet anyway .
This all goes back to another 'quote' I mentioned once in another post : years ago when I was a newbie on ufocasebook forum, I've heard more than one seasoned ( and somewhat disgruntled ) researcher complaining that internet was the beginning of the end of ufology .
As direct experiencer of ET contact struggling with words that would convey the meaning of our experiences with accuracy ( or an ET trying to link to human world , I leave the choice upon you , non-believers because option one is generally more acceptable if acceptability is in consideration than option 2 ) I felt strongly that it may be the case ,
on the other hand .. I felt there is a vast new platform opening here that may help all of us to share our perspectives and connect the dots .
Now so many years have passed ...
and I believe that many of our perspectives had to evolve , for the better or worse of our 'dear humanity' .
Sometimes I cried on the time that could have been used wisely and more efficiently to help others was lost .
Years before this all started for me I enjoyed life , mostly as long as I could be useful and helpful to others .
The capacity to serve to others is entwined to our well-being , I believe . Life on this planet is far from 'easy' for most people so far and there are countless pains and sufferings to be conquered and/or alleviated .
Buddha taught that 'life is suffering' as his first 'noble truth' but you really don't need to be Buddha to know this .
He taught on examining the causes of suffering within yourself and repairing the 'gross mistakes' with what's called 'the right path' : correct motivations ... mindfulness .. discipline .. ethics ... right speech , taking the right course of action , meditating regularly and not giving up on your right motivations, right views : meaning , avoiding extreme , hurtful views , and hurtful words , and thoughts ,
as antidotes for ignorance , angry temper , envy , jealousy , pride and vane desire .
He taught people to look within for these antidotes to what he called 'mind poisons' , ignorance being the first natural attribute arising in mental causality chain .
There had been many other teachers of mankind who taught and teach the same ,
deeper you go to any psychological or philosophical perspective of religions or sciences further you find yourself from associations with particular 'cult' or trend ,
beyond them all , life and the Universe have laws valid for all of us the same .
Looking outside ... the amount of information is infinite , its limits can be only determined by limitations of this mortal shell of life .
Old Indian proverb says ''True Knowing can not be achieved through study , no matter how much you learned , number of things you did not learn is like the number of Stars in the Sky .''
Guess I've digressed ( this time from my own topic, I always do :) ) .
Back to the 'disclosure field' and 'experiencers' .
The original meaning of 'disclosure' here is something that I consider completely legitimate effort ,
that's where it concerns various authorities to whom hard core data and evidence on existence of ET life - we all understand it means 'intelligent ET life' - on Earth is available ,
to release and share such data with the rest of mankind,
without delay and without covering certain facts or trying to 'improve them' to fit someones individual - national or political perspectives .
This has happened in minor ways till now with various governments releasing 'ufo files' kept by them for decades , for example .
Many people hope - or believe - there is more .. more interest, more data, more evidence , carefully hidden and dealt with covertly behind the steel walls of secret vaults .
The effort to prove this and 'blow the whistle' on existence of such data and evidence had been enormous , I fear even exaggerated , by many individuals who put their lives in danger trying to fight the 'medusa' of various official or semi-official systems .
Many of them lost their lives ( or quality of their lives , health , and so on ) fighting the agendas of these systems but very little has been directly proved .
It may be because the 'universal deceptionist' guide says : lie, lie until there's no option left , ''we give you all the power to do that'' .
It may be true or not . Among the most intelligent people who work in science and are still interested in this topic many doubt this to be the case ,
simply because of 'human factor' .
If you work with people who are constantly under stress on their jobs , have families and lives too , no matter how sophisticated they are, sooner or later you meet their 'human facade ' as well .
They may serve the chimera for some time and suppress their conscience to some deal but there's been no case that people would not break out , and down finally and serve the justice . Someone would have done that .
True , there are so called 'whistleblowers' with many fantastic claims trying to convince you that the reality behind military walls is more similar to some Terminator movies and that their best agents are far better than James Bond and they all work together to produce a 'huuuuge' cover up , one that rules the planet and watches how many spoons of sugar you put to your tea mug and worse ( or can .. ) .
They may go willingly after my words here and delete the words in brackets and fight my correct meaning with stupid accusations of stupidity .
The trick is that these 'so called whistleblowers' have hyper-idea or hypothesis that goes beyond provability and thus, seem to have the 'upper hand' too with many trusting individuals but at the end of the show they call it a quit , before any true revelation has been made that would help to change world opinion dramatically ,
since the crowds of so called 'solid citizens' are faithfully waiting for 'solid facts' .
Oh well . While no conclusion was reached on the above mentioned 'government disclosure' ..
and while , rather logically , the 'perpetrators' ( ironic meaning obviously , from me ) - non-earth-bound ETs can't be forced to disclose themselves ( so far .. ) or even reached for comment ,
disclosure has been happening in multitudes of ways ( I hear someones 'ascended statement' sounding 'in multitude of timelines' ) from those affected the most ,
earth-bound humans , ET vanguards , experiencers of mutual contact of all kind in short .
Many had tried to pour their best to the information field shared by multitudes with leaving little back up for themselves ( and their families ) .
Some of us have gone far beyond where any 'uninitiated' human had gone . I hope that some of you at least realise that I'm not being sarcastic in this observation .
There's not one way or single observable pattern how this has happened or was done - as those skeptical and narrow minded psychology ( and other ) ''experts'' liked to claim earlier and some still do,
I've seen numerous , unique ways how people try to deal with their rather unique ET experiences and myself being on the way , knowing rather intimately the lights and shadows of the 'path' ,
what seems to be common to them all is the 'drive' we feel within us . It's the same powerful energy that we met and its imprints in us ,
the truth of the reality being real rather than what some like to portray as 'perhaps your spiritual experience to deal with' ,
'ascension symptoms' , 'awakening of kundalini' , even 'drug abuse' , wishful thinking in short that could be fixed if you wished yourself better .
How, you don't ? :)
The drive ... that makes some people pour their hearts and almost upload themselves to Google servers .
The drive .. that makes others travel to mountains and deserts and watch stars ... and feel like dying homeless under those stars rather than living in shame among the ridiculously stubborn in opinion , human society .
The drive . After all , it's been the drive that enabled anything big to happen on this planet .
What's so sad about this momentarily is that the drive has often led to dead ends .
Now , to the very core of my message and contemplation ...
though very personal commonly experienced and understandable to many , I believe ..
As I mentioned within this article already , as a 'newbie' to the internet 'disclosure domain' you probably find yourself genuinely excited about the 'possibility' to reach others ,
the option to open yourself about experiences very few ( if any ) around you in real time have ears and minds for ,
the possibility that looks almost limitless . You can learn and teach , no matter whom , but more importantly you can hope .
This initial period that those genuine witnesses and contact experiencers enter with unblemished intents and hearts ( not having time to analyse the rest , the trolls, the pranksters, psychopaths and so forth who flood the internet , so leaving them alone )
may last a year , or two , or much more .. depending on how fast you can read , write and learn generally, depending perhaps on your health and resources , whatever .
Depending on the amount of faith you want to give to humanity and your patience too .
You may also sit on this here for life and try to explain yourself to the minutest detail ''in the name of Disclosure..'' .
Because you know there's substance , there's truth and the truth could be found ... if ...if... there were other people like you who were also so very genuine but also hopeful and also sane . Not necessarily the 'same people' .
People with abilities you don't have for example for none of us have or can use all of our potentials at the same time .
We are all susceptible to this 'human experience' no matter how much we try to resist it .
What happens in the meantime ... is that you start losing time for yourself , time for reflection and the peace you ( perhaps, most probably ) had in store previously .
I know , your good faith and teacher told you that peace is of infinite capacity so are your powers and determination. Did not he/she also tell you to spend yourself wisely ,
and stick to rules . ( Yes they did ) .
Unless they were of 'new age brand' . New age so far, generally , do not feel the need for any rules ..
No rules is very good path if you are in 'final stages of enlightenment ' :ROFL:
Before and after , there are mostly rules of physical , mental and spiritual hygiene one has to follow in order to keep healthy .
I like to call it hygiene because I believe it's what it is . To keep your mind-body continuum functioning in polluted environment , in harmony with the environment ,
even following those rules you can't avoid disease and failure . But being ill all the time is never great .
Sure , physical hygiene is something rather common - though surprisingly , poorly followed by even some well educated people sometimes ,
washing your hands for example :p
Mental and spiritual hygiene is far more difficult to observe and the knowledge on how this should be done is often missing . Back to topic ...
After you find yourself pasted 'all over the net' and uploaded to as many websites possible, followed by as many fans who want to know all from the size of your shoes to what handshake did your ET greet you with ,
and lost the loneliness you wanted to get rid of so much ..
you may find that ~ET~ has gone home too . Because you stopped paying attention really .
There were some mysteries kept only between 'you' and 'them' . They were like the powder on butterflies wings , subtle , beautiful and mysterious .
They trusted you like it if only for that mysterious moment even if you were afraid and disliked the rest .
Now you've called for help to the human contingency . Some of you .. cried , swore , shouted even . You wanted to say all , and you tried .
Well, not everyone can do that .. I believe ... out of 10 'experiencers' may be 1 does , the rest keep things to themselves, some out of fear, others because they lack the possibility , others are far more introvert than to introduce themselves at all .
I believe ...it's good to share and have the experience of sharing with human collective . It's important .
But you may also find yourself caught in the game heavily after some time , haunted by someones desire to interrogate 'the truth' , to make you jealous of 'best speakers' on someone stage, to keep you entrained in the human game ,
to make you dissociated from your self and doing someones job ..
There is a wisdom limit to this all I feel because there's a mystery . Life is a mystery . One of the most beautiful things about truly advanced civilisations in Space is that they respect 'the mystery of Life' ,
in more sensitive way . Art is a mystery ... that's how it's beautiful and original .
When you create thousands of photocopies of Mona Lisa you can have one in your living room, one each but what sense does it make ?
It becomes 'common'. The silver dust is lost ..
It's the 'silver line' , the nano-layer in our minds binding our other-worldly experiences together , as original as your brain is, as soft , flexible and ever changing landscape ,
something you can't replicate no matter how hard you try .
If you break it and mould it to 'beads of evidence' instead, observable under someones microscope they won't get it right, probably, anyway . But you , you may lose the thread ..
it may be your life-line too .
''In the name of Disclosure...'' don't give up on the silver line .. on the subtle , the sacred .
May your God(s) Be with you , the Power .. :coffee::coffee::coffee: