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Omni
8th May 2015, 08:40
Posting this just for a laugh if nothing else...



Vatican's chief exorcist warns that practicing yoga is 'satanic'

The successor to Father Gabriele Amorth, the Vatican's former chief exorcist for 25 years, has come out in condemnation of fantasy novels and yoga, declaring both to cause demonic possession. Speaking to The Independent (UK), Father Cesare Truqui explained how the Roman Catholic Church has seen a steady uptick in reports of demonic possession all around the world, and that popular culture pastimes like reading Harry Potter novels and engaging in Vinyasa are largely to blame.

Source: http://www.naturalnews.com/049612_Vatican_exorcist_yoga_Harry_Potter.html

I tend to think the increase in demonic possession is actually mind control technology targeting more and more people. I have had experiences with illusions of demons doing things to me, done by technology(that I caught after the fact). I know for a fact the shadow government hides behind demonic possession facades,..

One theory of mine is that the Vatican is behind some demonic possessions, just so they can feign a cure and solidify a believer for life... Either they have mind control tech, or they contracted those with it to do such is my theory...

Mike Gorman
8th May 2015, 09:00
Say what? I always knew the Catholic church was steeped in superstition & ignorance, let alone being the purveyor of a man-made mythology which pretends to have a direct conduit to 'God' (all three of him/him/it) but in 2015 to speak of 'demonic possession' is not helping anyone - all manifestations of what we call 'evil' are the products of human greed, desire for power or plain sadism - demons do not exist. Harry Potter, Lord of The Rings or any other work of the imagination are just that; brilliant also I reckon. Please Father Cesare do a little light study of philosophy, read widely, study a little physics, enlighten yourself, read up on psychology - stop peddling this benighted medieval mentality!

etheric underground
8th May 2015, 10:33
The vatican is evil no doubt. They have been part of the child sex slave industry for petes sake...How can anyone
believe a statement by any of these controlled puppets.
Hey I know what.....lets stop kids from using their imagination by reading fantasy and lets prevent people finding
peace,tranquility and balance in themselves through yoga...by stating that they create demon possession....wankers!!

betoobig
8th May 2015, 10:42
ha ha ha ha ha ha ... now, they are good telling jokes!!!
Can´t help it ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ah ayyyyy!!! snif!!!

LOVE

Juan

TheVoyager
8th May 2015, 13:03
Well actually is not that funny at all.

SOME of the practices in yoga CAN open inter-dimensional doors.
The first law of Lore is the Law of Intent, it is the intention which starts the mechanism of manifesting from invisible to the visible.
In other words, every time a person bows to something outside themselves, they give their power away to what they are bowing to. (This happens everywhere, not only in yoga). The mantras that are used in yoga … does everyone really know what they are chanting? Many times they are bowing to hindu gods while being told that they are doing something completely different and visualizing "light" from outside to enter inside them "to help" .. all these are open invitations.

Either you go from within (yourself) or you go without (yourself).
When you "go without", you will get manipulated since nothing enters us (read invades) with an idea to help but to use our vehicle for their own agenda.

Conclusion:
When doing yoga keep your intentions clear. Breath, stretch and stay in your spirit.

Agape
8th May 2015, 13:13
I think I can fit the following article to this thread as well :

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32625662

Devoted followers of fashion


Every two years, in the little Italian town of Vicenza, merchants gather for the biggest religious fair in the world. Vestment producers, sculptors and rosary sellers satisfy a growing demand for religious articles, from Pope Francis fridge magnets to devotional candles, a business that generates billions in Italy alone.
It's 08:30 in the morning and muscular workers are unloading trucks full of boxes marked "Fragile", clothes wrapped in tissue paper with "New collection, 2015" written on the hangers are being carried into the exhibition centre, and young women in miniskirts and stilettos are rushing around getting things organised.
But when church bells chime the hour and the doors open, we enter what some might take to be a priest's version of Heaven, filled with life-size statues of Mary, every possible type of holy water sprinklers and the very latest collection of cassocks and tunics.


Once every two years Catholic clergy from the four corners of the world come to Vicenza to buy church supplies, learn how to enhance their liturgy or just to renew their wardrobe.
Father Pasquale has travelled 13 hours by train from his parish in Calabria to check the new trends in sacred merchandise. With a little pad and a camera, he roams around the 15,000 sq m of the fair, furiously taking pictures. He doesn't have much time - he has to catch the train home in a few hours to report back to local chaplains.
"I wouldn't miss this fair for anything in the world," he says. "It's a bit of a hassle, that's for sure, as I spend more time on a train than anything else, but it's important for us - humble priests in southern Italy - to see how the Catholic church develops, what's new in terms of technology that would make our lives easier and to check what priests from big cities wear and how they perform the liturgy."

Other parishes in Calabria chipped in to cover his travel expenses, and he tries to get the best deals.
Father Pasquale suddenly stops and wonders in front of a stand that displays light blue vestments embossed in silk velvet and gold laminated prints, his eyes filled with amazement and joy. He reaches to feel the fabric with his fingertips and hums with delight. "You have Armani, Gucci or Prada," he says. "This is our version of haute couture."
The stand belongs to the Bianchetti family, Italy's leading supplier of ecclesiastical clothing - its clothes, the joke goes, are prete-a-porter, a pun on the Italian for "priest" and the French for "ready to wear". The head of the company, Elisabetta Bianchetti, personally designs and produces each and every vestment in the collection.


Please check the page for beautiful photos ..

http://www.koinexpo.com/scheda.html?id=4368&lingua=2#.VUyyWc7Myis


Oh , and just that you don't think I'm really biased about it .. I was shocked to find out how much 'monks robe' ( the full ordination set ) usually cost in both Mahayana and Theravada Buddhist countries ..

made from the best materials available it equals or exceeds the price you'd pay for decent ready tailored suit .
And unlike in Buddhas' times when monks robes were to be hand sued by them , from patches of old discarded cloths found at waste yards or cemeteries thus giving them typical ( and very beautiful ) patched design ..yet .. according to the rules of Vinaya a monk ( or nun ) were allowed to keep 3 pieces of cloth plus warm overcoat for winter at one time ,
todays monks are usually gifted with these luxury robe sets no one else can use anyway ( being too holy ) and very difficult to wash - because of their length .

They look good but take too much time to fix . I suggest that Buddhist order could adopt some more colourful versatility from their Christian brothers n sisters .


:bigsmile:

Selkie
8th May 2015, 13:22
I think I can fit the following article to this thread as well :

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32625662

Devoted followers of fashion


Every two years, in the little Italian town of Vicenza, merchants gather for the biggest religious fair in the world. Vestment producers, sculptors and rosary sellers satisfy a growing demand for religious articles, from Pope Francis fridge magnets to devotional candles, a business that generates billions in Italy alone.
It's 08:30 in the morning and muscular workers are unloading trucks full of boxes marked "Fragile", clothes wrapped in tissue paper with "New collection, 2015" written on the hangers are being carried into the exhibition centre, and young women in miniskirts and stilettos are rushing around getting things organised.
But when church bells chime the hour and the doors open, we enter what some might take to be a priest's version of Heaven, filled with life-size statues of Mary, every possible type of holy water sprinklers and the very latest collection of cassocks and tunics.


Once every two years Catholic clergy from the four corners of the world come to Vicenza to buy church supplies, learn how to enhance their liturgy or just to renew their wardrobe.
Father Pasquale has travelled 13 hours by train from his parish in Calabria to check the new trends in sacred merchandise. With a little pad and a camera, he roams around the 15,000 sq m of the fair, furiously taking pictures. He doesn't have much time - he has to catch the train home in a few hours to report back to local chaplains.
"I wouldn't miss this fair for anything in the world," he says. "It's a bit of a hassle, that's for sure, as I spend more time on a train than anything else, but it's important for us - humble priests in southern Italy - to see how the Catholic church develops, what's new in terms of technology that would make our lives easier and to check what priests from big cities wear and how they perform the liturgy."

Other parishes in Calabria chipped in to cover his travel expenses, and he tries to get the best deals.
Father Pasquale suddenly stops and wonders in front of a stand that displays light blue vestments embossed in silk velvet and gold laminated prints, his eyes filled with amazement and joy. He reaches to feel the fabric with his fingertips and hums with delight. "You have Armani, Gucci or Prada," he says. "This is our version of haute couture."
The stand belongs to the Bianchetti family, Italy's leading supplier of ecclesiastical clothing - its clothes, the joke goes, are prete-a-porter, a pun on the Italian for "priest" and the French for "ready to wear". The head of the company, Elisabetta Bianchetti, personally designs and produces each and every vestment in the collection.


Please check the page for beautiful photos ..

http://www.koinexpo.com/scheda.html?id=4368&lingua=2#.VUyyWc7Myis


Oh , and just that you don't think I'm really biased about it .. I was shocked to find out how much 'monks robe' ( the full ordination set ) usually cost in both Mahayana and Theravada Buddhist countries ..

made from the best materials available it equals or exceeds the price you'd pay for decent ready tailored suit .
And unlike in Buddhas' times when monks robes were to be hand sued by them , from patches of old discarded cloths found at waste yards or cemeteries thus giving them typical ( and very beautiful ) patched design ..yet .. according to the rules of Vinaya a monk ( or nun ) were allowed to keep 3 pieces of cloth plus warm overcoat for winter at one time ,
todays monks are usually gifted with these luxury robe sets no one else can use anyway ( being too holy ) and very difficult to wash - because of their length .

They look good but take too much time to fix . I suggest that Buddhist order could adopt some more colourful versatility from their Christian brothers n sisters .


:bigsmile:
I wonder if there is a booth that sells indulgences?

Isserley
8th May 2015, 13:26
Well actually is not that funny at all.

SOME of the practices in yoga CAN open inter-dimensional doors.
The first law of Lore is the Law of Intent, it is the intention which starts the mechanism of manifesting from invisible to the visible.
In other words, every time a person bows to something outside themselves, they give their power away to what they are bowing to. (This happens everywhere, not only in yoga). The mantras that are used in yoga … does everyone really know what they are chanting? Many times they are bowing to hindu gods while being told that they are doing something completely different and visualizing "light" from outside to enter inside them "to help" .. all these are open invitations.

Either you go from within (yourself) or you go without (yourself).
When you "go without", you will get manipulated since nothing enters us (read invades) with an idea to help but to use our vehicle for their own agenda.

Conclusion:
When doing yoga keep your intentions clear. Breath, stretch and stay in your spirit.
Peeling potatos CAN open inter-dimensional doors if your (or somebodies) intention is to do just that.. So like you just said - it is the intention, not the practice of yoga, what leads to whatever possessions they are talking about..
If you need translation of mantras - please let me know - It would be my pleasure to translate them for you. They are mostly about peace, love and good intentions.
Anyways - do you know what are Christian prayers (mantras) all about?? Mostly about sacrifice and (Christ) blood rituals..

TheVoyager
8th May 2015, 14:03
Isserley, please note that I wrote that the intention starts the mechanism of manifesting from the invisible to the visible - from our internal world to the external world of physical matter, and not that it opens the inter-dimensional doors.
I have not mentioned any mechanism or ways of opening the inter-dimensional doors.

As far as the christian prayers (mantras) are concerned… I was not talking about them. As a matter of fact my post was about some of the practices that are used in yoga (the emphasis is on 'some'). I do agree that christianity as much as other religions are all manipulated and they are not in service of humanity. They all use similar ways to trick us into making agreements of entrapment, each of them with a slightly different wrapping paper.

I respect your point of view but have no intention in the slightest to enter a discussion about who is right or who is wrong. I have put out the information and everybody can does with it what he/she pleases.







Well actually is not that funny at all.

SOME of the practices in yoga CAN open inter-dimensional doors.
The first law of Lore is the Law of Intent, it is the intention which starts the mechanism of manifesting from invisible to the visible.
In other words, every time a person bows to something outside themselves, they give their power away to what they are bowing to. (This happens everywhere, not only in yoga). The mantras that are used in yoga … does everyone really know what they are chanting? Many times they are bowing to hindu gods while being told that they are doing something completely different and visualizing "light" from outside to enter inside them "to help" .. all these are open invitations.

Either you go from within (yourself) or you go without (yourself).
When you "go without", you will get manipulated since nothing enters us (read invades) with an idea to help but to use our vehicle for their own agenda.

Conclusion:
When doing yoga keep your intentions clear. Breath, stretch and stay in your spirit.
Peeling potatos CAN open inter-dimensional doors if your (or somebodies) intention is to do just that.. So like you just said - it is the intention, not the practice of yoga, what leads to whatever possessions they are talking about..
If you need translation of mantras - please let me know - It would be my pleasure to translate them for you. They are mostly about peace, love and good intentions.
Anyways - do you know what are Christian prayers (mantras) all about?? Mostly about sacrifice and (Christ) blood rituals..

Ernie Nemeth
8th May 2015, 15:41
Yes. All religions are insane, pandering to the least common denominator of human foibles and ignorance.

Of course yoga is demonized. Yoga is a phenomenal method for restoring health, balance and mental stability. Yoga in tandem with meditation will keep you young and invigorated. The rest of the mumbo jumbo is just the religious layer from a bygone era.

But there is a warning: yoga will let you see through the veil. It will give you insights into reality - and it is a one-way door. Once you have walked through you cannot return. Much like being exposed to this alternate, conspiracy-filled material, once you know of it, it is almost impossible to ignore it, forget it or even refute it.

Try a set of yoga routines today and see the remarkable effects it will have in your life as well.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
8th May 2015, 16:32
Omni, did you know that the Pope sent envoys to bless CERN a few years back?
Those people are all crazy! lol.

Mike
8th May 2015, 17:03
I believe you're onto something Omni. I read Ed and Lorraine Warren's book ' The Exorcist' (great book) but was left feeling that something didn't quite add up.

The fact that only the Catholics seem to have much success with "demons" seemed dubious to me. I always thought the almost comical and pathetic way these so called demons reacted to holy water and the mere mention of Jesus smacked of drama more than anything else. Ditto all the pageantry involved with the actual exorcism.

These demons are initially diabolical and resistant to all forms of interference. They are able to move extremely heavy objects. Their power is impressive. And then the priest arrives and does his thing and this previously impenetrable entity just falls apart and loses its cool and foams at the mouth and becomes furious??? Why? Because some guy in a robe read a few passages from a book? And think about it! Who is that priest anyway? He's just a guy. His name is Dick and he was in your homeroom in high school for 4 years....he couldn't make the football team and now he's doing this.

It just doesn't add up.

Omni your explanation is as good as any I've heard. Perhaps it is a psyop to try to encourage faith in the church. Makes sense to me. Really does.

Nasu
8th May 2015, 17:31
Mikes right, Omni nailed it...

What a silly idea. I wonder how much this problem affects other sports, martial arts and callisthenics? So if they muse about demonic posession as they do the pole vault or stretch out or whatever, they could be bringing in an entity through their intention? It's like the complete reverse of that kids story about those people who say fairies don't exist, when they do, another one dies... I call BS..

On the matter of intention, surely by this logic, every Christian is bringing forth the Egyptian god Amun every time they end a prayer with Amen?... Total BS...

I wonder what the stats are on non catholic demonic posession? I would bet that they are low, as compared to the catholics who come in only slightly behind or in second place odds to societies that stile use witch doctors and such..

Ergo, IMHO, the practice of Catholicism can lead to demonic possession, I would say the odds are quite high, its a fair bet.. N

Michael Moewes
8th May 2015, 17:54
The practice of yoga helps you to un block a part of the 80,000 energy channels in your energy body. If you're doing it wrong it can have devastating results which the Vatican calls demoniac posession. this can be releived with a very long treatment of Tibetan/ chinese medicine.
Better do it right the first time.
live healthy and vegan

Desire
8th May 2015, 18:22
The catholic church will do what it takes to scare people into submission
and ,OH YA, deflect from all their pediphile priests.So sad that something
that claims to support good produces evil,any at all.

Selkie
8th May 2015, 20:18
The catholic church will do what it takes to scare people into submission...
That is what all spiritual bullies do, from the Pope and his "Catholic" church all the way down to the garden-variety guru with his handful of followers.

p.s. Gurus tend to call it "surrender", but what they really want is the submission of their followers.

johnh
8th May 2015, 23:56
Demonic possession is much more common than most people realize because the person has surrendered/submitted to the condition so does not have a problem about it, will get material gain/fame/etc. This is something a bit beyond entity attachments which are even more common, very common. Often in a previous lifetime during a crisis, i.e., a demon offers to make a deal to help the person and can stay merged in his/her energy field for lifetimes and in time the person thinks this is himself. Extreme discernment needed. There are generational demons, too, passed along the bloodline, not necessarily wealthy people, either. Am for the most part speaking here concerning the jinn. A higher level demon can manifest a statue of itself in our reality which is quite hot, BTW, for awhile. They sometimes can take on a human form briefly usually as an attractive young man, which event requires some level of human request/permission. Nostradamus got his info from a demon - he says so in his writings.

Yoga would tend to make the individual more sovereign/balanced and eventually more expansive perhaps eventually breaking out of the "box." The catholic control church would not like that (although I personally still honor Christ and Buddha, the Way Showers). Getting sh*t faced drunk is way more dangerous in terms of the sovereignty of ones energy field than anything I can think of right at the moment. People pick up "stuff" just walking down the street sometimes if their aura is not sealed/healthy. Medical anesthesia can be an opening, also, if the patient had certain inclinations.

But nowadays we have electronic demons, so to speak, fancy dancy mind control from a distance tampering with people's private thoughts and even core energy. They tried it on me lots of times, but all they did was give me cramps in my legs and feet (pure agony). I have a kind of immunity to their machinations and won't speak further about it - likely will get more of the same
tonight for having said this much (yes I take magnesium and the usual precautions). There is always a cost and forgiveness does not work in these matters. A will like iron does, and a little help from my Friends. The perps are toying with near future annihilation for what they are doing to humanity. But then again, some humans are not human - an topic closely associated with this one.

Common sense goes a long way, unless you are targeted but still helps.

Agape
9th May 2015, 00:45
I wonder if there is a booth that sells indulgences?

People created whips and sugar cubes .. that itself speaks volumes

:bearhug:

13th Warrior
11th May 2015, 23:57
Oh yes, Dr. Satan and his devout followers are very crafty in their devious plans to enslave the unwitting; they are clever indeed...tic

Olam
12th May 2015, 02:13
Well actually is not that funny at all.

SOME of the practices in yoga CAN open inter-dimensional doors.
The first law of Lore is the Law of Intent, it is the intention which starts the mechanism of manifesting from invisible to the visible.
In other words, every time a person bows to something outside themselves, they give their power away to what they are bowing to. (This happens everywhere, not only in yoga). The mantras that are used in yoga … does everyone really know what they are chanting? Many times they are bowing to hindu gods while being told that they are doing something completely different and visualizing "light" from outside to enter inside them "to help" .. all these are open invitations.

Either you go from within (yourself) or you go without (yourself).
When you "go without", you will get manipulated since nothing enters us (read invades) with an idea to help but to use our vehicle for their own agenda.

Conclusion:
When doing yoga keep your intentions clear. Breath, stretch and stay in your spirit.


Sounds to me like you attended one of Steve Richards Holographic Kinetic workshops?

Before I say more, I will say that this is a very dense topic and the language I am using does not permit me to say all as I would like to, so see the following as an attempt from me to use linear language technology to explain a holistic concept.

:facepalm:

I can say after having done this workshop and worked on people, demonic possessions are much more current than what is known.
In fact, there are so many negative entities out there waiting for a moment to get in you that we all have to be very very careful at how we live our lives.
Pass out from too much alcohol or drugs, mention out loud that you hate your life and want to die, or even, yes, open up major energy lines in the body with yoga while not being prepared and in a vulnerable state and your putting yourself at risk.
Now that does not mean that doing yoga will get you possesed, but its certainly a possibility I think.

I worked on a client that had a huge winged serpent present. This person would "meditate" every night to a point where he would hear "that" voice in the head . He thought he was being guided by some devine entity, while it was that serpent doing all it could to keep in control.

I'm not one to agree with the vatican, but in this case I think they are just doing what they can to pull the blanket on their side.

Universal law is Universal law (Lore)and so if a priest uses these laws and relies on that power then yes they can remove entities, no matter who the man doing the job is. In other words, yes the vatican did and does skew information and sacred knowledge from us , but they also know the truth and in the case of going against demonic entities for lack of a better wording, there are not many many ways of going about it.
If you stick to the laws you can be righteous and safe in doing this work.

Lastly, to know how all of this works is the best way to stay clean.
Once you know the pitfalls and traps, its much easier to live free from these entities.
At least it helped me as I had a list of hitchhikers in me and they are now gone.
They are not far though, I slipped up recently and they were right there ready for action...
Everyday is a battle as they say.

Omni
12th May 2015, 02:26
Pass out from too much alcohol or drugs, mention out loud that you hate your life and want to die, or even, yes, open up major energy lines in the body with yoga while not being prepared and in a vulnerable state and your putting yourself at risk.
Now that does not mean that doing yoga will get you possesed, but its certainly a possibility I think.
If technological possession isn't just as much in your paradigm I'd say you have a mystified version of the truth. I know technology does hide behind such things, I just don't know the frequency of it in relation to experiences of these things. Hardly anyone knows they are dealing with AI when an AI interacts with them overtly in some manner. Dracos+Greys+Mantids+Anunnaki have hidden behind these facades for thousands of years according to one of my ET contact(however that may be taken who knows)... It made sense to me because shadow governments have hidden behind many facades with me over the years, it took me a long time to figure it out... Most don't have a chance to reconsider if their experiences were facades, and any mention of it is offensive and triggers them...

In this article it states the Vatican has seen levels rise of demonic possession by 100% in the last 15 years. The same 15 years that the technological control grid was maturing...


And in order to deal with the consequences of this, his religion has had to bring on an additional six exorcists, bringing the total number to 12, just to deal with what he says is a 100% rise in the number of requests for exorcisms over the past 15 years.

http://www.naturalnews.com/049612_Vatican_exorcist_yoga_Harry_Potter.html#ixzz3Zt4GcuNW

Olam
12th May 2015, 03:23
Pass out from too much alcohol or drugs, mention out loud that you hate your life and want to die, or even, yes, open up major energy lines in the body with yoga while not being prepared and in a vulnerable state and your putting yourself at risk.
Now that does not mean that doing yoga will get you possesed, but its certainly a possibility I think.
If technological possession isn't just as much in your paradigm I'd say you have a mystified version of the truth. I know technology does hide behind such things, I just don't know the frequency of it in relation to experiences of these things. Hardly anyone knows they are dealing with AI when an AI interacts with them overtly in some manner. Dracos+Greys+Mantids+Anunnaki have hidden behind these facades for thousands of years according to one of my ET contact(however that may be taken who knows)... It made sense to me because shadow governments have hidden behind many facades with me over the years, it took me a long time to figure it out... Most don't have a chance to reconsider if their experiences were facades, and any mention of it is offensive and triggers them...

In this article it states the Vatican has seen levels rise of demonic possession by 100% in the last 15 years. The same 15 years that the technological control grid was maturing...


And in order to deal with the consequences of this, his religion has had to bring on an additional six exorcists, bringing the total number to 12, just to deal with what he says is a 100% rise in the number of requests for exorcisms over the past 15 years.

http://www.naturalnews.com/049612_Vatican_exorcist_yoga_Harry_Potter.html#ixzz3Zt4GcuNW

I can see how it can be this way you describe.
I do study AI as much as I can, Archons, the grid, all that stuff and yes I can see how it can and is used for the above, but there is still
organic and "analog" "stuff" in there too, all mixed up.
I guess we could say that technology has caught up to the point of being the prefered method used, but it was not always there.
Aboriginal tribes and "old" cultures have had mythology and Lore passed down from thousands of years about these subjects.

Now are you saying the vatican and its handlers are responsible for the recent activity using the latest technology?
I would not be surprised.

Its interesting that I was able to clear myself using ancient techniques while the technology is still there!
I guess I would have to mention also that I have no TV, have not watched the thing in years, I rarely use my cell phone and never carry it on me for long, I don't follow social memes, no facebook,no twitter.....on and on.
In a stream of thoughts, I can now see when they don't originate from me, stuff like that.

Elainie
12th May 2015, 03:59
Vatican is demonically possessed lol.

Olam
12th May 2015, 22:41
Vatican is demonically possessed lol.

I would say so myself. Been there and all those gargoyle statues as well as inside the place inhibits nasty stuff...

Watching from Cyprus
13th May 2015, 07:32
Just commenting on the subject/headline; This says a lot about these men ("men" is a disgrace) in colorful gowns :-( . Yoga will then be a banned "religion" in the NWO.
Crazy.. completely Crazy..

The Church of the Fish Hat, ha.

Yoga Bear for president.

Love to Everyone.
Peter