To be perfectly clear from the gripreaper

[gripreaper]

I’m not anyone special. I don’t have any insider information, or illuminati ties. I’m not trying to ruin anything or fix anything. I’ve never been on an ET spaceship, or had contact with benevolent ET’s. I’m not an abductee, or an abductor. I’m not conditioned by any alphabet government programs of mind control, other than the standard public education system. I don't have a blog or a website, or sell CD's or any books. I’m not part of any secret society, or fraternity, or psychological operations such as the Aviary. I’ve never had a kundalini or any apparitions at Fatima, or anywhere else. I’m not from any far off galaxy sent here to save earth or to fix its inhabitants, or to steer their destiny towards anything. I was not sent here by any dimensional beings or galactic council to shift timelines. I don’t own a whistle and I’m not a “blower” and I don’t need anyone to blow me either.

I’m just your average working stiff who is a slave to the Babylonian bankster system, with an internet connection, trying to “over-stand” what’s going on. I have access to the same information that everybody else does, so there is nothing special about it. All the information I have gleaned is readily available, and does not come from any hidden source. It’s all out in the open, and here is what I have found…

astral programs Matrix of sphere-Being Alliance Density Realm wakes up downloads mind control programming a dimensional rift chakra system pineal gland discernment filter to the positive timeline resonates with re-install decoded galactic community portal and stargate gridworker openings, ascension artificial grid lines, crystalline technology time loop positive or negative timelines the Matrix has Soul beings entrapped in the Pineal/Moon Astral programs Secret Societies Life force Parasites program to feed the astral levels Healing Conscious Co-Creators spiritual energies greater oneness with the Earth/Gaia “karma” cloned spirituality systems/hierarchies. Gaia connection in oneness Lineage Intuitive Intentions knowing and sensing into truth, dark feeling Secret Space Programs of organic time line military industrial complex DNA chakras Merkabah illuminati insider disinfo campaign dark forces collective unconscious Entity Attachments MKUltra, Monarch whistle blowers Galactic Central Sun Galactic Confederation Manifest Sphere Beings, cabal is losing control of the alliance Black Sun Order Cosmic Perspective rabbit hole Mind Controlled Channeling of the holographic construct authenticity Freemasons, The Alternative Community highly advanced extraterrestrials pure consciousness Raises the vibration Shadow Military Enslavement regressive ET's Annunaki Paranormal Activity White Hat Illuminati Plan Entangled Bloodlines Draco Reptilians Secret Programs Artificial intelligence Mother ship Loosh Collective consciousness Universal energy Highest Density ALL as A New World Order PSY-OP.

Hope that clears up any misunderstanding. :)

[Chip]

I'm with ya 100%!
Well said

[araucaria]

Ha ha, excellent! :) But I think you mean “misoverstanding”, grip, in which case there still is one small issue.

I don’t think you can step outside of that fat glob of info you’ve given us there. Rather than standing above or below, I’d say we’re standing right in the middle. We’re talking about our comprehension of our com-prehension, i.e. of literally how we are caught up in all of this. The internet connection only countersigns the greater oneness: we perceive our interconnectedness through our internet connection, and comprehension is again the watchword as together we take charge. The question then becomes, is this what we want and are we coming back for more; or do we prefer smashing things and splintering people, and where do we go to get more of that now that it’s no longer working here?

[Maunagarjana]

:twitch:

I feel totally overbuzzworded.

[ulli]

Such a bold font!

Now, where have I seen that before???

[poetbil]

I’m special. I have any insider information, and illuminati ties. I’m trying to ruin anything and fix anything. I’ve been on an ET spaceship, and had contact with benevolent ET’s. I’m an abductee, and an abductand. I’m conditioned by all alphabet government programs of mind control, other than the standard public education system. I have a blog and a website, and sell CD's and many books. I’m part of all secret society, and fraternity, and psychological operations such as the Aviary. I’ve had a kundalini and any apparitions at Fatima, and anywhere else. I’m from any far off galaxy sent here to save earth and to fix its inhabitants, and to steer their destiny towards anything. I was sent hereby from many dimensional beings and galactic council to shift timelines. I don't own a whistle but I’m a “blower”
...and still I have a headache and feel completely unimportant
I wish I were you
(if this is not a joke I 'll get banned for good this time):shielddeflect:

[Limor Wolf]

Nicely said :) A little point here, though, with a serious note (my appologies). Truth has many facets, and so bursts of real material and pieces of truth are in those subjects as well, I think that the message of your post, gripreaper, is nailing it since the issues at hand are being diverted and twisted to a large extent so we will not be able to look at things and see a clear picutre that leads to a correct path of knowledge. And this is the imprint (and purpose) of the earthly/non-earthly manipulators. Ignore the whistleblowers/insiders testimony, and you don't know or have any clue of what is going on in the more shadow/hidden parts of our world that have great influence on the upfront system - in this case we may miss our chance to understand the truth in depth, to take responsibility for it's creation and find solution. Our looking away from these chunks is in itself a fuel to the Matrix system.. (My theory - understanding the problems derives from an outer mutual process with the help of others, arriving to the solution -is an inner one and only then sharing with others)

Another way of looking at this instead of completely turning our backs is with thick glasses which are as best as possible nonjudgmental but full of discretion. Smell and walk away from any 'essence' that do not gives any grain from which we can make bread. Stand in the observor mode and be able to see simliar to what you worded above - that it is mostly a NWO psy-op. But is that really an all inclusive conclusion?

A tremendous amount of thousands of years were invested in manipulating the human reality, and in more modern times it is - secret projects, secret societies, mind 'managment', diverted history/ science/ education, genetics experimantation and isolation from the knowledge of any other life out there is right here. There is a reason for the madness of MKultral, soul entrapment, cloned spirituality, secret space program, life force Parasites, that helps to cover our potential ability to co-create with energy force and our conscious mind and aim for freedom for all

The different non-homogeneous realities that is examplified by the different insiders, whistleblowers and such, even if distorted contributes in it's own way to the greater pieces of the puzzle.

I read something this morning and would like to post it here, even though it may seem to have no direct relevence to the topic:


From Dispelling Wetiko, by Paul Levy

The wound

"There is no denying that we are in fact all wounded, to one degree or another, simliar to a way the car over the course of it's life accumulates dents in it's frame. The point isn't whether or not we are wounded; rather that the wound does not need to define us nor be a dead end, for it is in fact a potential doorway to awakening. There is a way to creatively engage with our wound that liberates the energy that is bound up in re-creating it while at the same time transforming our consciousness. As we decode the Wetiko virus, we midwife ourselves into our wholeness.

There exists another possibility that becomes available to us, however, when we awaken to the wiles of wetiko; when our wounds comes up , instead of interpreting it as evidence that we really are wounded, we can recognise it's momentary appearence as the unfolding, releasing, dissolution, and dis-illusion of the very same wound that we have previously imagined to sustantially exist. In other words, we can allow our wounds to manifest in this moment as an evenscent, transitory, and self liberating revelation of what the moment before we had imagined existed in and over time in solid "real" form. We can awaken to the fact that the situation in which we find ourselves is malleable, fundementally characterised by a fliud and open-ended potentiality, and is therefore infinitely creative if we simply allow it to be.

When we experience the self-liberating qaulity of our wound, rather than reaching backword (and forward) in time in our imagination, and creating ourselves in a solidified, limited, and problematic identity that is not fully healed, we simply relate to our wound as an impermanent, ever changing, and fluid phenomenon that does not characterise our true nature, while at the same time being it's momentary expression.Our wounds is an event that is only happening in the present moment and nowhere else; it is an ephemeral artifact of our present perception, existing simply as a momentary phantom of the dynamics of our creative process in this moment. This is to realize that we are not constrained and circumscribed by linear time, nor stuck in seemingly solid matter in the way we had previously imagined.This realization frees us from the mental straitjackets by which we had been imagining ourselves to be bound.

In doing this, we are at the same time removing any psychic "Velcro" within us onto which the wetiko bug can latch itself. Paradoxically, instead of obsecuring our evolution, our wound has then "raised us", for the wound has been the very impetus for our expansion of consciousness. This is another example of what seems to be the problems actually bearing a hidden gift.

Simultaneously containing both the pathology and it's own medicine, our wound is a higher-dimensional event which has manifested in our three dimensional life, offering us either a deeper liberation or a greater constriction, depending upon how we chose to percieve it. We are all potentially "wounded healers". The archetype of the wounded healer reveals to us that, rather than attempting to get rid of or avoid our wound, it is only be being willing to face, consciously experience, and go through our wound that we recieve it's blessing.

There is a secret tie between the powers that seemingly obsecure our true nature and the very true nature they appear to be obsecuring. Our personal wound is, in condensed and crystallized form, the particular instantiation of the collective wound in which we all share and participate. The doorway to the deeper, archetypal dimension is not found by going around our personal process, but rather, by going directly into and through it. As if shamans-in-training, we are like psychic organs who individually "process" and potentially transform the unresolved , unconscious shadow and wound in the collective field. It is truly liberating to step out of the ingrained habitual pattern that many of us have of pathologizing ourselves, and instead, re- conceptualize our personal conflicts, problems, and wounds as part of a wider transpersonal pattern enfolded throughout the field of human experience. As wounded healers, we become transformed when we recognize that our wound is completely personal and uniquely our own, while simultaneously being a unoversal, impersonal process in which everyone is participating.

This is the paradox: an experience of our wholness, what Jung calls the self, is both personal and transpersonal at the same time. When we get in touch with the deepest, most true part of ourselves, it is the part of us that is most unique and personal, while at the same time, there is a universal aspect, in that it is the same self that is incarnating through everyone. To experience this paradox consciously is itself the expansion of consciousness which initiates a transformation in ourselves, and by extention, the world around us.

This is to paradoxically step into being a genuinely autonomous, independent being, while at the same time realizing our interconnectedness and interdependence with our autonomous, independent beings. It is this "shared felt sense" that deeply connects us with each other, cultivates compassion, helps us see through the illusion of the seperate self, and dispels the curse of wetiko. In a universe that resounds with the sound of compassion, OM MANI PADMA HUNG, wetiko's name is never heard.


I said it will be a little serious :), Araucaria's great response much more fit the tone.

As a one who is non consensually chained to few of the titles above mentioned, I feel I can make an observation that all that gripreaper declared about himself is true,

but one..

gripreaper, that reminds me of the known aphorism - 'know thyself'

: )

Limor

[yelik]

The Illuminati /Cabal are always many steps ahead of the masses. I believe they were very aware of the implications of the Internet and risks to their secrets. If you want to hide secrets and confuse the masses it's clear they would fill the Internet with a mixture of truths,half truths, lies and fiction.

Nobody knows or has all the truth we can only use discernment and balance of probability to help understand some of the stuff. If only half of it were true the world would still be a very different place if it was shared.

[samildamach]

I always follow my instinct it seems to know far Better than my brain.and every so often things become so clear you know you have awakened to a new level of understanding and the feeling is awesome

[gripreaper]

As many have pointed out, there are elements of truth in all of these words and their energetics, and the implications of their manifestations, and how we are affected. We've talked about the message as opposed to the messengers on another thread, and yet, all of this shrouded in a context of credibility when it comes to the messengers, their motives about how to continue to survive and thrive in the Babylonian bankster system, while bringing a message of how to get out of the matrix. Seems like there is a dichotomy in there somewhere.

Also, the context of the thousands of years of programming, the ability of a handful of nefarious interlopers who use magic to vampire us, and the energy vampiring system which is so completely engrained in our very DNA, which we at most times hardly recognize.

Then, you have the software of this forum, which is wholly inadequate to archive and make accessible the discourse and conclusions previously reached, and a whole new set of questions arises and the discourse goes through the same path of the new purveyors of truth repackaging the same old truths for a new audience, with a whole new set of motives and perspectives, and attempts to add credibility to the message because of some insider of special experience.

I guess I'm just getting weary of the cycles of the same-ol-same-ol stories and the same-ol "I know something you don't" because I have an insider or special experience, when all of this is readily available now and has been discussed "ad-infinitum" for several years. I've seen too many of the great posters here fall silent or leave as the new flavor of the month comes along.

I notice a pattern when I post, that there are about a dozen people still here at Avalon who have read most of my 3500 posts, and have a context for who I am and what my perspective is, and don't need to go back into the archives. The rest will never know what I wrote in 2011 or 2012 because they can't, or wont access it. I don't want to start all over and rewrite the same stuff over again for the new wave of those awakening.

Maybe that is best left up to those who want to be the purveyors, who want to sell books and CD's, and who want the notoriety which comes from being an insider or an illuminati member. If that lends credibility to the message, then so be it. My message does not have that.

My message is this. We have been lied to and the lie has been programmed so deeply into our very DNA, that most of us willingly give our energy to the Babylonian bankster system while we point the finger at all manner of reasons for this system and who the perpetrators are.

Everything about our culture is to agitate the lower carnal chakras of fear and passion, survival and sex, and materialism to make life more comfortable and pleasurable, within the current paradigm of scarcity, while the very essence of the higher brain centers and the ability to feel with the rest of our senses is summarily glossed over. The overlords will do ANYTHING to keep us from this ability and this truth.

I'm not convinced that rehashing the problem gets us to solutions.

[Hervé]

[...]

Hope that clears up any misunderstanding. :)

Waow!

What a beautiful Mahjong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahjong) throw of collected tags!

[Jake]

I am nobody special either.. Even though I am a direct experiencer of some 'next level' $#/+,, right here I am with you at Avalon.. One can have all of the information in the world, and still do nothing,, I have seen it... Most of us here at Avalon are the type of folks who would love to have the right information so they can make better decisions.. There is a whole world out there that only seeks information that supports what they already believe. I guess there is a major difference between a 'belief' and a 'known'...

And castles made of sand, fall in the sea, eventually... Meaning that those who eagerly research info to support their preconclusions spend lifetimes trying to justify a BELIEF,, and never actually KNOW much at all...

It takes courage to admit you were wrong.. it takes some moxy to embrace NOW and Experience life.. but experience is the main difference between a belief and a known. It is those of us who are willing to work on ourselves and shed layers,, that will be able to readily know the difference between a belief and a known.... All of the information in the world cannot help someone who does not know themselves..

I try and keep in mind that there are folks who are just now (even just today) realizing that the news is lying to them... We are all quite deep in the rabbit hole compared... :)

It is about inspiration, and relationships.. Without these things, information has no real meaning... Kinda like,, I share my peice of the puzzle, and then you share yours... :):)

Avalon is a place where each and every one of us would like to know the truth,, not just the information... It keeps me coming back, every day...

Love to all
Jake

[Gardener]

Grip: I hear you! I seldom disagree with what you have to say, and the thanks button wasn't quite enough for your OP and post #10, also Lima's post #7. In the last few years the general verbiage, and adjectivology has become very confusing. Lately I have stood back, gone back to some general basics, and just this last couple of weeks it has been the voluminous wordage for the same thing that has been my focus.

We have as you say "been lied to", yes we sure have, we have been lied to and betrayed, over & over & over again, and the wound is deep indeed. Whole civilisations traumatised and betrayed over millennia so it is a natural consequence that we project that deep wound out onto society. Jung said on the run up before the war that the collective psyche was projecting that war in their recollected dreams.

So :) have a little patience with noobs and the oldies lol. I wonder if Paul and Illie could find a way of collecting the nuggets and place them in a kind of 'gold mine' idk just the seeds of a idea.

Just to let you know i hear you :)
much love

[onawah]

Thanks Gripreaper for taking the discussion that most recently took place here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81973-Are-we-into-messages-or-into-the-messengers
...to another level.
My feeling about that other thread was that the subject is so central to what we are doing here on Avalon, it could hardly be expanded on too much, and because I was reluctant to see it end so soon, I added a last post to it here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81973-Are-we-into-messages-or-into-the-messengers&p=960040&viewfull=1#post960040
..and I'm very grateful to see the discussion continuing in this thread.

It seems that if we let go of the notion that we have a goal, and everything that we are doing is to advance that goal, and hypothesize instead that the process is the goal, and who we are becoming as we undergo this process, then I, at least, have a much better feeling about the way in which I spend so many hours pondering, analyzing, comparing, contrasting and then attempting to regurgitate something meaningful that might actually make sense to someone else engaged in the same process.
Using the template that you have provided, I would have to say that the information from Lily Earthling here:
( http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81973-Are-we-into-messages-or-into-the-messengers
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81920-CERN-Truth-Lies-and-Magic-by-Lily-Earthling&p=957667&viewfull=1#post957667
...and elsewhere... )
... could certainly be construed as only the newest addition in the long line of whistleblowers whose information we have sifted through over the years, and as you say, it's nothing new for the most part.
Although it does put us back in the center of the predicament which is: what can we do aside from this process we are engaged in to better our lot in this world?
And the answer yet again, as we go around the spiral one more time, is that we must reconnect in the best ways we know how with Gaia and with our humanness, however ordinary it may seem to us.
The dirt under our feet is ordinary, but how precious when we perceive it with awakened vision...
What the Zen Masters of old used to say about being ordinary is simply...that that is the whole point!
There is growth occurring and wisdom resulting from this process.
I can see it in the posts from all the Avalonians that have become familiar friends over the years.

[Bill Ryan]

-------

This reminds me of an e-mail I once got from Camelot whistleblower Henry Deacon, who sent me all the Echelon trigger words in one [very] long paragraph.

"Ooops", he wrote me, the day after... "Maybe I shouldn't have done that." :bigsmile:

[Carmody]

Possibly that it is intelligence, consciousness, in a 2d holographic form, experienced as time based 3d, in the one angle of view.

From that, the rest flows.

everytin' be everytin'.

[Mandala]

Does anyone else find that just when things are fitting together fairly well, and you have a better understanding and can formulate theories of your own, you find a ton of new or supplementary material which starts the crazy TMI cycle again.

[Selene]

Love it, Grip!

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/Selenewho/schrodinger%20you%20bastard_zpsv7w6jv1e.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/Selenewho/media/schrodinger%20you%20bastard_zpsv7w6jv1e.jpg.html)

Cheers,

Selene

[Bluegreen]

Thank you for posting
Maybe the OP has been reading "The Soft Machine" and doing some Cut-Up experiments Very Good


My message is this. We have been lied to and the lie has been programmed so deeply into our very DNA, that most of us willingly give our energy to the Babylonian bankster system while we point the finger at all manner of reasons for this system and who the perpetrators are.

Everything about our culture is to agitate the lower carnal chakras of fear and passion, survival and sex, and materialism to make life more comfortable and pleasurable, within the current paradigm, while the very essence of the higher brain centers and the ability to feel with the rest of our senses is summarily glossed over. The overlords will do ANYTHING to keep us from this ability and this truth.

I'm not convinced that rehashing the problem gets us to solutions.

I'd just like to address this, GR, and this may or may not even be what you're talking about. I know there have been many forum members who have come before me, some of whom I'm aware of and some of whom I'm not. For example, when you were posting in 2011 I was golfing and drinking martinis thinking this was the greatest country on Earth godammit. And then something happened. And then something else happened. And then I read something, and then I read something else. Many of the videos and documents I have come across for the first time on this website I found out later were reposts. The member had just found another appropriate place to (re)present that information. So if that's it, have patience with newbies.

I believe Ulli said something to the effect of don't get hung up on the messenger, continue to keep the message in mind and heart. And quite honestly there are only a few messages, not that many. I would suggest that the above qualifies, and is worth rehashing.
:)

[yelik]

Let us never forget that we are all likely subjected to some form of mind control which may well keep us preoccupied in a never ending cycle of jumping from one latest topic to the next, but, going nowhere fast!

We are in an information / psychological war with the Illuminati / Cabal who's plans span many decades, they know that many people can be worn down when we wait with anticipation for some event to transpire.

I agree with previous comments about having some sort of 'Guide to commonly accepted Facts' which may help to prevent recycling old stories.

[Omni]

You don't have to be a whistleblower or an experiencer(or both) to provide quality posts. I think your sense of humor alone is an asset grip. Everyone beings value to the table typically I find.

I don't see myself a "Whistleblower" and other forum members "non-whistleblowers", though. Just another human being having a unique ride on the 'planet Earth rollercoaster'... Thanks for the reality check on how people perceive things grip...

[Mike]

I’m not anyone special. I don’t have any insider information, or illuminati ties. I’m not trying to ruin anything or fix anything. I’ve never been on an ET spaceship, or had contact with benevolent ET’s. I’m not an abductee, or an abductor. I’m not conditioned by any alphabet government programs of mind control, other than the standard public education system. I don't have a blog or a website, or sell CD's or any books. I’m not part of any secret society, or fraternity, or psychological operations such as the Aviary. I’ve never had a kundalini or any apparitions at Fatima, or anywhere else. I’m not from any far off galaxy sent here to save earth or to fix its inhabitants, or to steer their destiny towards anything. I was not sent here by any dimensional beings or galactic council to shift timelines. I don’t own a whistle and I’m not a “blower” and I don’t need anyone to blow me either.

I’m just your average working stiff who is a slave to the Babylonian bankster system, with an internet connection, trying to “over-stand” what’s going on. I have access to the same information that everybody else does, so there is nothing special about it. All the information I have gleaned is readily available, and does not come from any hidden source. It’s all out in the open, and here is what I have found…

astral programs Matrix of sphere-Being Alliance Density Realm wakes up downloads mind control programming a dimensional rift chakra system pineal gland discernment filter to the positive timeline resonates with re-install decoded galactic community portal and stargate gridworker openings, ascension artificial grid lines, crystalline technology time loop positive or negative timelines the Matrix has Soul beings entrapped in the Pineal/Moon Astral programs Secret Societies Life force Parasites program to feed the astral levels Healing Conscious Co-Creators spiritual energies greater oneness with the Earth/Gaia “karma” cloned spirituality systems/hierarchies. Gaia connection in oneness Lineage Intuitive Intentions knowing and sensing into truth, dark feeling Secret Space Programs of organic time line military industrial complex DNA chakras Merkabah illuminati insider disinfo campaign dark forces collective unconscious Entity Attachments MKUltra, Monarch whistle blowers Galactic Central Sun Galactic Confederation Manifest Sphere Beings, cabal is losing control of the alliance Black Sun Order Cosmic Perspective rabbit hole Mind Controlled Channeling of the holographic construct authenticity Freemasons, The Alternative Community highly advanced extraterrestrials pure consciousness Raises the vibration Shadow Military Enslavement regressive ET's Annunaki Paranormal Activity White Hat Illuminati Plan Entangled Bloodlines Draco Reptilians Secret Programs Artificial intelligence Mother ship Loosh Collective consciousness Universal energy Highest Density ALL as A New World Order PSY-OP.

Hope that clears up any misunderstanding. :)


I suggested you write a book recently, Grip. I meant it. Partially because of what you wrote in post #10, which had to do with not wanting to regurgitate the same msg ad nauseum for a whole new group of people. There is a certain release that occurs when you make your definitive statement and no longer feel obligated to keep repeating yourself. I know, I just did it myself.

You may think of a book as further regurgitation, and I can see why. Its true that all the information is already out there etc. But there's one variable that many don't consider: style. Yes, its been said, but no one has said it in the unique way you can say it. Style is totally underrated. 2 people can write essentially the same exact thing...but one can be infinitely more interesting and readable and inspiring. Style=inspiration. Inspiration=passion. Passion=action.

Its easy to lament the banality of repitition. I do it. The people here are wonderful, but sometimes when I sign on and begin reading I feel like I'm in that scene in Ferris Buellers day off: "Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

Whenever I've left the forum for a length of time it was always because I was sick to death of reading the same people saying the same exact things day in and day out. But even more than that, I was sick of my own voice. It had grown flat and dull and redundant.

I think we have an obligation to each other and to mankind to have style - to not be boring. Boredom is the greatest sin!

I like to laugh. That vid you posted recently in the Ruiner thread with the guy walking in the door, hanging up the hat and then turning around and putting the hat on and leaving...hysterical. laughed my ass off. That's style. Its so easy to be despondent in today's world...I need moments like that to survive, just as much as I need food and water. I thought about that vid several times that day and it cracked me up every time. It inspired me and gave me the passion to be a little more upbeat. Style. Just a little bit of style can rescue a day from being flat and monotonous and make life seem worth living when just a minute earlier it seemed like it wasn't.

Everybody has had this thought: imagine the world without (fill in the blank). Imagine the world without the Beatles, john Lennon, Gandhi, Muhammad Ali etc. There are some days when I'm feeling especially bleak, and I get this odd feeling that something or someone that might have inspired or cheered me up in that particular moment never materialized. They never showed up. They quit, they got discouraged, they never started that band, never wrote that book, never ran for president...whatever. there's a hole there, and a positive chain of events that might have materialized never did. The banality of life crushed it. The antidote to banality is style.

You've got style Grip. I hope you write a book. But if you don't, I'll be pleased with just your posts. Even if you write the same thing over and over, its never boring when done with style. There's nothing worse than feeling that absence of something brilliant that you know should have been there but wasn't. And when that something brilliant shows up, theres no better feeling! Very few things give me that feeling. There are posters here who give me that feeling from time to time. They remind you that style is alive and that the world isn't so empty. Grip gives me that feeling. Dennis does. Jake does. There are others too. And I breath a huge sigh of relief when I get that little dose of style...often times its the only difference between a good day and sh!tty one.

So anyway, whistleblower schmisselblower. You're appreciated around here Grip. And im quite certain you have more than 12 readers:)

[ulli]

Mike, let's all get a grip, ok?
Fact is, we can't take the boredom.

So now for something completely different...
Exercise!


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[Mike]

Mike, let's all get a grip, ok?
Fact is, we can't take the boredom.

So now for something completely different...
Exercise!


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LOL! That's style!:)

[Carmody]

Mike, First rule of sales:

Never preach to the Pew. (Don't waste time on the converted)


Only advertise in new areas, to the unaware.

The problem with the sort of data we are dealing with, is that it is going to be a return shot from the advertising recipient(s).... of a punch to the face and a kick in the crotch, from whomever hears it. The thing we are all rather familiar with. People don't like understanding that their future is dead, and it went that way..... because they were dead at the wheel. (I've no sympathy for the lazy mind) (not uncaring... but no sympathy)

Things are rapidly changing, but we ain't there yet. Right now, it's as if the car is in the air (hump time!), and we've no idea how it is going to land.

[ulli]

Oh, and not to forget, today is Mother's Day. I admit it is a repetitive event,
and I even get two calls as here in Costa Rica they celebrate it in August.

But there is this other angle as well, and it deserves repeating,
as so many have still not clicked....
https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/1010072_678886732174231_2104608379_n.jpg?oh=cbbfa5b8790af083643ff373e3646131&oe=560BA8A5

[Ernie Nemeth]

blah, blah ,blah.
boo-hoo.
whatever...

Isn't that exactly how to prove any theorem? ;)

[gripreaper]

I suggested you write a book recently, Grip. I meant it.

What should I write about?

I have it on some really good intel from "sources" who have channeled some of the benevolent dimensional beings who are hierarchically in positions of power with some of the stellar Galactic Councils, who have indicated via vetted and sincere third dimensional humans, that in fact, when you take into consideration the intents as well as the trajectories of all of the available timelines, and you juxtapose that against the cosmic energetic signature of the incoming frequency waveforms which are now coalescing with the current resonance inherent in 3rd dimensional physical realities, divide that by the golden mean ratio and the Precession of the Equinoxes and align that with the Galactic Core in the binary star system of the Central Sun, and extrapolate through your higher self consciousness the frequency and resonance and the tone and timbre you are receiving from your heart center and your soulstream spiritual empathic etheric nature, you may be able to triangulate this information and generate a hypothesis, which is inherently able to contain any obfuscations and adverse anomalies from arising, which may attempt to distract you from the core context of this diatribe, and provide verification relative to the veracity and validity of the hypothetical scenario which is being postulated, as the most probable and highest and best outcome available to the collective consciousness which is permeating the divine matrix, rendering such signals to be transmitted and transmuted in the subjective subconscious, thus imbedding such signals into the ego consciousness and triggering the super conscious mind and that which comes from the core essence of your being and all that is one, for necessary context to awaken and arouse the curiosity of those who would otherwise find this information inhospitable, or non palatable, and emanate and amplify this resonance into the matrix of "all that is" and coalescing with this energy to shift the collective outcome for all sentient beings on this planet.

It’s about time I say...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10269415_10201942240506835_9079057533020378956_n.jpg?oh=d2b01ec5d9accc7ca446d7d877fe7517&oe=560968BD&__gda__=1440317634_c23796d8aa045d9db4fe1f38e6dba615

[rgray222]

And castles made of sand, fall in the sea, eventually... Meaning that those who eagerly research info to support their conclusions spend lifetimes trying to justify a BELIEF, and never actually KNOW much at all...

Love to all
Jake

I always marvel at the fact that there are people that truly believe and those that want to believe. Many of those that want to believe in something are a very dangerous lot because they usually have a preconceived conclusion of what is truth and what is not. They will search for movies, stories, articles, people, books, groups etc that validate their perception with little or no regard for the truth. They will act like mindless heat seeking missiles attracted to other mindless heat seeking missiles all for the sake of validation.

It took a long time for me to understand that the truth resides in each one of us yet we spend so much time looking for the truth (validation) from other people and other sources. The truth about everything resides in our soul, it is built into our DNA and we need not look elsewhere. We always hear about people "changing their mind." The mind is the link between our soul and our human experience. We must let the mind learn from the soul, not the other way around.

When we understand the power of our collective consciousness there will be no need for our soul to gain further understanding through human existence.

[Mike]

I suggested you write a book recently, Grip. I meant it.

What should I write about?

I have it on some really good intel from "sources" who have channeled some of the benevolent dimensional beings who are hierarchically in positions of power with some of the stellar Galactic Councils, who have indicated via vetted and sincere third dimensional humans, that in fact, when you take into consideration the intents as well as the trajectories of all of the available timelines, and you juxtapose that against the cosmic energetic signature of the incoming frequency waveforms which are now coalescing with the current resonance inherent in 3rd dimensional physical realities, divide that by the golden mean ratio and the Precession of the Equinoxes and align that with the Galactic Core in the binary star system of the Central Sun, and extrapolate through your higher self consciousness the frequency and resonance and the tone and timbre you are receiving from your heart center and your soulstream spiritual empathic etheric nature, you may be able to triangulate this information and generate a hypothesis, which is inherently able to contain any obfuscations and adverse anomalies from arising, which may attempt to distract you from the core context of this diatribe, and provide verification relative to the veracity and validity of the hypothetical scenario which is being postulated, as the most probable and highest and best outcome available to the collective consciousness which is permeating the divine matrix, rendering such signals to be transmitted and transmuted in the subjective subconscious, thus imbedding such signals into the ego consciousness and triggering the super conscious mind and that which comes from the core essence of your being and all that is one, for necessary context to awaken and arouse the curiosity of those who would otherwise find this information inhospitable, or non palatable, and emanate and amplify this resonance into the matrix of "all that is" and coalescing with this energy to shift the collective outcome for all sentient beings on this planet.

It’s about time I say...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10269415_10201942240506835_9079057533020378956_n.jpg?oh=d2b01ec5d9accc7ca446d7d877fe7517&oe=560968BD&__gda__=1440317634_c23796d8aa045d9db4fe1f38e6dba615


Grip put down that coffee and hand me your keys..;)

A little more about the"golden mean ratio" and the "soul stream spiritual empathic nature" and it would have been perfect. Perfect. I stand by my statement. You just need me as your editor, that's all.

[gripreaper]

Don't ever lose your curiosity Mike...

https://scontent-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p206x206/1915538_1094416849846_8363177_n.jpg?oh=0a82fe6761a43028fba1503031779e35&oe=55C9F675

[onawah]

Thanks to Gio for posting this on his Up at the Ranch thread
km-Z9vWPuPw

"Thank U"
How bout getting off all these antibiotics
How bout stopping eating when I'm full up
How bout them transparent dangling carrots
How bout that ever elusive "could of"
Thank you India
Thank you terror
Thank you disillusionment
Thank you frailty
Thank you consequence
Thank you thank you silence
How bout me not blaming you for everything
How bout me enjoying the moment for once
How bout how good it feels to finally forgive you
How bout grieving it all one at a time
Thank you India
Thank you terror
Thank you disillusionment
Thank you frailty
Thank you consequence
Thank you thank you silence
The moment I let go of it was the moment
I got more than I could handle
The moment I jumped off of it
Was the moment I touched down
How bout no longer being masochistic
How bout remembering your divinity
How bout unabashedly bawling your eyes out
How bout not equating death with stopping
Thank you India
Thank you Providence, thank you disillusionment
Thank you nothingness
Thank you clarity
Thank you thank you silence....

[genevieve]

gripreaper--

I agree with Mike--write a book, or at least keep posting here. Your writing is clear and sometimes achingly lyrical, as seen in this linked post:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54318-The-answer-to-everything-David-Wynn-Miller&p=616679&viewfull=1#post616679

Thanks so much for sharing with us.


Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
genevieve

[araucaria]

I notice a pattern when I post, that there are about a dozen people still here at Avalon who have read most of my 3500 posts, and have a context for who I am and what my perspective is, and don't need to go back into the archives. The rest will never know what I wrote in 2011 or 2012 because they can't, or wont access it. I don't want to start all over and rewrite the same stuff over again for the new wave of those awakening.
I have a different perspective on this; I am not averse to dredging up an old post of mine when I have a keyword or two to help me find it, but I will usually try to add something, bring it up to date or put it in a new context. The value of this to me is in connection with the teaching-learning process. I am not talking about teachers and students, but the dual process that need only concern myself, although others are welcome to join in. The basis of the pedagogical process is building on established learning: taking something that is understood and grafting onto it something new. The scientific process is not very different in that it tries to single out a parameter for study in a context where the other parameters are under control. As I say, teaching-learning is simply my personal method and any advantage it may bring to others is an additional bonus.

It is no coincidence that we find similarly constructed expressions (to teaching-learning) in the work of Charles Fort. Here are a couple of the kinds of things he says:


It has been my expression that, for instance, African fakirs achieved the harmless impalement of children by a process that would ordinarily be called imposing the imaginary upon the physical, but that is called by me imposing the imaginary-physical upon the physical-imaginary.

The materialists explain all things, except what they deny, or disregard, in terms of the material. The immaterialists, such as the absolute and the subjective idealists, explain all things in terms of the immaterial. My expression is in terms of the continuity of the material and the immaterial–or that one of these extremes is only the accentuation on one side, and the other only an accentuation on the other side, of the hyphenated state of the material-immaterial.

This is no coincidence (although of course Fort is not my source) because it takes Fortean-type tools to handle the Fortean-type reality we are facing here. The problem with new age gurus is of course that they are not new age teacher-learners: they are very much old-school teachers, with their old-school students at their feet.

[Flash]

I suggested you write a book recently, Grip. I meant it.

What should I write about?

I have it on some really good intel from "sources" who have channeled some of the benevolent dimensional beings who are hierarchically in positions of power with some of the stellar Galactic Councils, who have indicated via vetted and sincere third dimensional humans, that in fact, when you take into consideration the intents as well as the trajectories of all of the available timelines, and you juxtapose that against the cosmic energetic signature of the incoming frequency waveforms which are now coalescing with the current resonance inherent in 3rd dimensional physical realities, divide that by the golden mean ratio and the Precession of the Equinoxes and align that with the Galactic Core in the binary star system of the Central Sun, and extrapolate through your higher self consciousness the frequency and resonance and the tone and timbre you are receiving from your heart center and your soulstream spiritual empathic etheric nature, you may be able to triangulate this information and generate a hypothesis, which is inherently able to contain any obfuscations and adverse anomalies from arising, which may attempt to distract you from the core context of this diatribe, and provide verification relative to the veracity and validity of the hypothetical scenario which is being postulated, as the most probable and highest and best outcome available to the collective consciousness which is permeating the divine matrix, rendering such signals to be transmitted and transmuted in the subjective subconscious, thus imbedding such signals into the ego consciousness and triggering the super conscious mind and that which comes from the core essence of your being and all that is one, for necessary context to awaken and arouse the curiosity of those who would otherwise find this information inhospitable, or non palatable, and emanate and amplify this resonance into the matrix of "all that is" and coalescing with this energy to shift the collective outcome for all sentient beings on this planet.

It’s about time I say...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10269415_10201942240506835_9079057533020378956_n.jpg?oh=d2b01ec5d9accc7ca446d7d877fe7517&oe=560968BD&__gda__=1440317634_c23796d8aa045d9db4fe1f38e6dba615


Grip put down that coffee and hand me your keys..;)

A little more about the"golden mean ratio" and the "soul stream spiritual empathic nature" and it would have been perfect. Perfect. I stand by my statement. You just need me as your editor, that's all.

Grip, now I know what my critics mean when they tell me to shorten my sentences! lollllllllll Yes, put down that coffe, I agree with Mike.

[Pam]

Grip, when I read this post I had the biggest smile on my face and at the same time feel a magnitude of love for you and your beautifully placed words. You are like no other!!!!!!

[gripreaper]

gripreaper-- I agree with Mike--write a book, or at least keep posting here. Your writing is clear and sometimes achingly lyrical, as seen in this linked post:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54318-The-answer-to-everything-David-Wynn-Miller&p=616679&viewfull=1#post616679
Thanks so much for sharing with us.
Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
genevieve

Wow, thanks Genevieve. I just went back and reread that post you linked. Sometimes I go back and read what I write and I can't believe I wrote it. I'm serious, if ya'll want me to write a book, what would it be about?

[Dennis Leahy]

I'd read a book by you on just about anything, Grip.

I have a request for something much smaller (maybe 2 to 5 terse paragraphs, max.) It may not be much of a chance to exhibit style, but rather your knowledge. One thing the citizens of the US could use would be a statement (maybe even a bullet point list), of which specific agreements and treaties to rescind or nullify, if citizens ever gain control of the US federal government. (Looking at the possibility that something like The Reset Button Movement gained the needed steam and was successful, resulting in US citizens controlling US elections and thus US governance.)

I have a feeling that you could write this (or most of this) without needing to research (you've already done the research.)

Almost 100% of every piece of federal legislation in at least the past 40 years is either corporate-centric, or deliberately limiting rights/freedoms of citizens, so yes, all of that legislation needs to be either blanket nullified or dissected and re-written bill-by-bill from a citizen-centric and eco-centric viewpoint. But what I'm talking about are the agreements made with international banksters and global elite, (plus Vatican? UN? NATO? G8? Israel?) starting (at least) back in 1913 - that sold us out.

This would end up as part of The Reset Button companion document, "Candidate Position Issues", which all candidates (who would be, by law, independent and unfunded privately) would be mandated to respond to, in writing. Their written submission would be the primary basis for distinguishing candidates from one another, and would also be the written word upon which their term of service in office would be measured (and provide cause for quick recall if they deviate, in action, from their written positions.) In other words, candidates would need to address the list of issues you would present.

Maybe such a list already exists, but I suspect it is incomplete.

Are you game?

[gripreaper]

I have a request for something much smaller (maybe 2 to 5 terse paragraphs, max.) It may not be much of a chance to exhibit style, but rather your knowledge. One thing the citizens of the US could use would be a statement (maybe even a bullet point list), of which specific agreements and treaties to rescind or nullify, if citizens ever gain control of the US federal government. (Looking at the possibility that something like The Reset Button Movement gained the needed steam and was successful, resulting in US citizens controlling US elections and thus US governance.)

I have a feeling that you could write this (or most of this) without needing to research (you've already done the research.)

Almost 100% of every piece of federal legislation in at least the past 40 years is either corporate-centric, or deliberately limiting rights/freedoms of citizens, so yes, all of that legislation needs to be either blanket nullified or dissected and re-written bill-by-bill from a citizen-centric and eco-centric viewpoint. But what I'm talking about are the agreements made with international banksters and global elite, (plus Vatican? UN? NATO? G8? Israel?) starting (at least) back in 1913 - that sold us out.

This would end up as part of The Reset Button companion document, "Candidate Position Issues", which all candidates (who would be, by law, independent and unfunded privately) would be mandated to respond to, in writing. Their written submission would be the primary basis for distinguishing candidates from one another, and would also be the written word upon which their term of service in office would be measured (and provide cause for quick recall if they deviate, in action, from their written positions.) In other words, candidates would need to address the list of issues you would present.

Maybe such a list already exists, but I suspect it is incomplete.

Are you game?

I'm going to take a real quick crack at this from my immediate stream of consciousness, and then build on it.

First off, any candidate would need to understand that the US government is an administrative agency, a PRIVATE CORPORATION administering a bankruptcy, through admiralty, and all of us are treated as dead fictions and being salvaged, traded, hypoticated, and driven like slaves, under a military state of emergency and we are ALL enemies of the state.

They must understand HOW THIS Corporation came into being, by understanding that ALL WARS are bankers wars, how the Civil war and the reconstruction act made us all slaves, how the 13th amendment gave title of nobility (lawyers) the ability to administrate the bankruptcy as debt collectors, and how the courts also became administrative debt collectors, and how the 14th amendment citizen IS NOT the American National citizen, but IS A SLAVE.

Then, the 1913 Federal Reserve Act, the fiat currency system of usury and perpetual absconding of ALL OF the energy and resources of the planet for a mere handful of psychopathic interlopers, who have held these energetic trusts in place in the quantum field of energetics since the first trusts of Rome were established in the 12th through 16th centuries, through satanic ritual, and HAVE NEVER been rebutted, and these curses hold the very energy of our very souls in bondage.

Yes, then the candidate would need to understand how the bankruptcy of the mid 1800's (bankruptcies run 70 years) was renewed in 1933 and the New Deal traded our very essence for alleged benefits and privileges, which we adhere to unilaterally through adhesion contracts, such as voter registration, residency, citizenship, drivers licenses, and social security.

Then, the candidate would need to understand that this bankruptcy was renewed once again in 2001 and that 9-11 WAS NOT about a couple dozen towelheads with box cutters outmaneuvering the best pilots on the planet and defying the laws of physics and pulverizing 200 million tons of concrete to dust, melting steel with kerosene, and toppling buildings at free fall speed! AND brought in the patriot Act (what an oxymoron) which blatantly stripped us of our very underwear! We stand naked in the streets and don't even know it!

So, in essence, they need to understand the banksters, who they are, what they have done, and how to dismantle the fraud. ALL roads lead back to the banksters. This will take an awake and aware electorate as well, but I think a few great leaders could catalyze such an awakening and most would "grok" it.

The constitution has provisions for fixing a corrupt government, and it is an Article 5 Convention. Repeal the 13th and 14th amendments, rescind the Federal Reserve charter, default on ALL OF the fiat obligations to the Central banks, print American script WITHOUT INTEREST and distribute enough to keep commerce moving, fire half the bastards in Washington's alphabet soup agencies, and dismantle most of these agencies.

Give the states back their sovereignty and rescind their corporate agency agreements with the corporate District of Columbia. Put the City of London and the Vatican on notice that we will no longer be sending all of our energy to them, and rescind the Papal Bull trusts. Abolish all Admiralty courts, fire all the judges and re-establish common law, not based on ecclesiastical Catholicism and Roman curiae.

Oh, and release the 14 trillion dollars for NAWAPA and put it into motion right away.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42928-The-Fallacy-of-Lack-of-Resources-Water-and-NEWAPA&p=960305#post960305

So, in essence, we default, we come out of receivership, we fire the bastards, restore sovereignty and sound currency, and get to work building NAWAPA and let the chips fall where they may...

[awakeningmom]

Dear Grip,
Just so you know, I'm one of those newbies who has taken the time to try to go back and read your earlier posts. Not all 3500 of them, I'll admit, but a bit at a time. And I get excited every time I log on and see that you have posted something new -- so please don't stop! Like others have already pleaded, please have some patience with us newbies -- yes, we are probably still asking the same questions or reaching "insights" about the Matrix Control System that seem so simplistic to many long timers on this forum, but isn't that what we are supposed to be doing here? Sharing experiences, information, knowledge, etc. and trying to evolve and wade through the BS together? I hope so.

I do agree that sometimes the information gets old or repetitive. Last year I was so excited because I got to attend Contact in the Desert. I was thrilled to see all these people whose works I had read (Richard Dolan, Linda Moulton Howe, Michael Tellinger, John Anthony West, etc...). This year, I told my husband I wasn't going: "they are just going to say all the same things I already know anyway...." Yes, jaded and bored so quickly. And that's after only being in this alternative world for just over two years now (like Bluegreen, I was doing my own woman's version of golf and martinis until something happened....). But I still get a lot from this forum -- and you are a big part of my learning curve. So please be patient with us -- and please allow us the informational rehash... :)

[Dennis Leahy]

Damn! I knew you were up to the challenge!

"a mere handful of psychopathic interlopers, who have held these energetic trusts in place in the quantum field of energetics since the first trusts of Rome were established in the 12th through 16th centuries, through satanic ritual, and HAVE NEVER been rebutted, and these curses hold the very energy of our very souls in bondage."

Remember, your audience (for this) is primarily composed of people who can understand 18th century shyster banksters selling them into bondage but are probably not going to respond well to anything like energy vampirism or dark forces or black magik or Babylonian lineage.

[ulli]

I'm going to take a real quick crack at this from my immediate stream of consciousness, and then build on it.

First off, any candidate would need to understand that the US government is an administrative agency, a PRIVATE CORPORATION administering a bankruptcy, through admiralty, and all of us are treated as dead fictions and being salvaged, traded, hypoticated, and driven like slaves, under a military state of emergency and we are ALL enemies of the state.

They must understand HOW THIS Corporation came into being, by understanding that ALL WARS are bankers wars, how the Civil war and the reconstruction act made us all slaves, how the 13th amendment gave title of nobility (lawyers) the ability to administrate the bankruptcy as debt collectors, and how the courts also became administrative debt collectors, and how the 14th amendment citizen IS NOT the American National citizen, but IS A SLAVE.

Then, the 1913 Federal Reserve Act, the fiat currency system of usury and perpetual absconding of ALL OF the energy and resources of the planet for a mere handful of psychopathic interlopers, who have held these energetic trusts in place in the quantum field of energetics since the first trusts of Rome were established in the 12th through 16th centuries, through satanic ritual, and HAVE NEVER been rebutted, and these curses hold the very energy of our very souls in bondage.

Yes, then the candidate would need to understand how the bankruptcy of the mid 1800's (bankruptcies run 70 years) was renewed in 1933 and the New Deal traded our very essence for alleged benefits and privileges, which we adhere to unilaterally through adhesion contracts, such as voter registration, residency, citizenship, drivers licenses, and social security.

Then, the candidate would need to understand that this bankruptcy was renewed once again in 2001 and that 9-11 WAS NOT about a couple dozen towelheads with box cutters outmaneuvering the best pilots on the planet and defying the laws of physics and pulverizing 200 million tons of concrete to dust, melting steel with kerosene, and toppling buildings at free fall speed! AND brought in the patriot Act (what an oxymoron) which blatantly stripped us of our very underwear! We stand naked in the streets and don't even know it!

So, in essence, they need to understand the banksters, who they are, what they have done, and how to dismantle the fraud. ALL roads lead back to the banksters. This will take an awake and aware electorate as well, but I think a few great leaders could catalyze such an awakening and most would "grok" it.

The constitution has provisions for fixing a corrupt government, and it is an Article 5 Convention. Repeal the 13th and 14th amendments, rescind the Federal Reserve charter, default on ALL OF the fiat obligations to the Central banks, print American script WITHOUT INTEREST and distribute enough to keep commerce moving, fire half the bastards in Washington's alphabet soup agencies, and dismantle most of these agencies.

Give the states back their sovereignty and rescind their corporate agency agreements with the corporate District of Columbia. Put the City of London and the Vatican on notice that we will no longer be sending all of our energy to them, and rescind the Papal Bull trusts. Abolish all Admiralty courts, fire all the judges and re-establish common law, not based on ecclesiastical Catholicism and Roman curiae.

Oh, and release the 14 trillion dollars for NAWAPA and put it into motion right away.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42928-The-Fallacy-of-Lack-of-Resources-Water-and-NEWAPA&p=960305#post960305

So, in essence, we default, we come out of receivership, we fire the bastards, restore sovereignty and sound currency, and get to work building NAWAPA and let the chips fall where they may...

A copy of this is going to get magneted to my fridge door.

[aranuk]

Hi Grip, can you please explain what the 14 trillion dollars for NAWAPA is all about? Where did the money come from? Who gave it? Where is it now? What happened to it? I watched the video of NAWAPA you posted in 2012 here and thought it would be a great project. I had never heard of it until reading your post.

Stan

[Bluegreen]

Dear Grip,
Just so you know, I'm one of those newbies who has taken the time to try to go back and read your earlier posts. :)
OMG that Hitler thing was hilarious
(Old pounding on the floor emoticon)

[looking-glass]

I’m not anyone special. I don’t have any insider information, or illuminati ties. I’m not trying to ruin anything or fix anything. I’ve never been on an ET spaceship, or had contact with benevolent ET’s. I’m not an abductee, or an abductor. I’m not conditioned by any alphabet government programs of mind control, other than the standard public education system. I don't have a blog or a website, or sell CD's or any books. I’m not part of any secret society, or fraternity, or psychological operations such as the Aviary. I’ve never had a kundalini or any apparitions at Fatima, or anywhere else. I’m not from any far off galaxy sent here to save earth or to fix its inhabitants, or to steer their destiny towards anything. I was not sent here by any dimensional beings or galactic council to shift timelines. I don’t own a whistle and I’m not a “blower” and I don’t need anyone to blow me either.



Hope that clears up any misunderstanding. :)

Made me laugh inside, thank you

regards

[gripreaper]

Hi Grip, can you please explain what the 14 trillion dollars for NAWAPA is all about? Where did the money come from? Who gave it? Where is it now? What happened to it?

The NAWAPA initiative originated during the Kennedy administration back in the 1960's, originally funded as a trust indenture, Just like anything else the government does which could actually help mankind, the funds were used for other purposes in the general fund, and that is why there is the massive UCC1 lien of 14 trillion bucks against this project.

You wont find much on the internet about it, for one very simple reason. If this was implemented, it makes half the "memes" we live by obsolete, such as scarcity, debt and poverty. Can you imagine the economic activity NAWAPA would generate in immediate jobs all across north america, enough to pay off any debt and keep all of us out of debt, while opening up the arid regions to massive new agriculture, energy, and resources?

How can you have a slave system with massive debt, scarcity and poverty if everyone is working and not taking on debt, and there is plenty of resources and plenty of GDP growth?

That's why NAWAPA never got off the ground and why California is in one of the worst droughts in history.


So please be patient with us -- and please allow us the informational rehash... :)

Yes awakening mom, I was just having one of those existential moments where I question everything and put it ALL up for review, while the emotions of lethargy and discouragement attempted to overtake me.

It is great to have you here as well, and I do read your posts. I've "snapped" out of my stupor....

[gripreaper]

Damn! I knew you were up to the challenge!

"a mere handful of psychopathic interlopers, who have held these energetic trusts in place in the quantum field of energetics since the first trusts of Rome were established in the 12th through 16th centuries, through satanic ritual, and HAVE NEVER been rebutted, and these curses hold the very energy of our very souls in bondage."

Remember, your audience (for this) is primarily composed of people who can understand 18th century shyster banksters selling them into bondage but are probably not going to respond well to anything like energy vampirism or dark forces or black magik or Babylonian lineage.

Dennis, if you want to take this basic outline and "dumb it down" and make it more palatable to the electorate, be my guest. I really think it is important that those who are American Nationals recognize how their freedoms and liberty were stolen by the banksters and where we are in commerce. What most don't realize is: everything is commerce, and everything is a commercial asset or liability, and there are creditors and there are debtors, and there is solvency and there is bankruptcy. The rest is just smoke and mirrors, and lies.

Those who would be voted into office NEED to know how things really are, and those who would do the voting need to know as well, otherwise there is no hope for them to change it when they are actually IN OFFICE representative of the people, in the original organic Republic we lost back in 1781.

[Carmody]

Damn! I knew you were up to the challenge!

"a mere handful of psychopathic interlopers, who have held these energetic trusts in place in the quantum field of energetics since the first trusts of Rome were established in the 12th through 16th centuries, through satanic ritual, and HAVE NEVER been rebutted, and these curses hold the very energy of our very souls in bondage."

Remember, your audience (for this) is primarily composed of people who can understand 18th century shyster banksters selling them into bondage but are probably not going to respond well to anything like energy vampirism or dark forces or black magik or Babylonian lineage.

And that is the 'gnarly knot of cognition', itself.

modern science talks about this being a multidimensional energy field, of information, and intelligence.

The 'mind' bounces off the point of it having to come 'round to being fully responsible for itself, in all ways, in each and every moment. forever, and now. Without escape, forever. The animal instincts, the driving systems of the box called the body have to be put down, and left behind.

Forever. To not lose humanity, but to evolve beyond it.

It is easy to see this, in that almost every single person who reads what I wrote in the above single line, is revolted on the deepest levels. 'To lose humanity', horrible words, are they not?

In fact, they are not.

It has nothing to do with being violent and animal to self and other. Losing humanity's drives and impulses has nothing to do with losing forms of respect for 'other'.

The animal in man purposely misconstrues and projects into the give sentence, in order to force it's way into having a future, by any means possible, without foresight, or responsibility. ie, life force drives of the body, in the form of ego. To prevent and lock out logic and rumination, in order to force continuance as it is currently known. The true essence of the body's imperative and core system of interruption and interference.

It is by this internal design and method/way, that 'humanity' is manipulated.

[ulli]

Damn! I knew you were up to the challenge!

"a mere handful of psychopathic interlopers, who have held these energetic trusts in place in the quantum field of energetics since the first trusts of Rome were established in the 12th through 16th centuries, through satanic ritual, and HAVE NEVER been rebutted, and these curses hold the very energy of our very souls in bondage."

Remember, your audience (for this) is primarily composed of people who can understand 18th century shyster banksters selling them into bondage but are probably not going to respond well to anything like energy vampirism or dark forces or black magik or Babylonian lineage.

And that is the 'gnarly knot of cognition', itself.

modern science talks about this being a multidimensional energy field, of information, and intelligence.

The 'mind' bounces off the point of it having to come 'round to being fully responsible for itself, in all ways, in each and every moment. forever, and now. Without escape, forever. The animal instincts, the driving systems of the box called the body have to be put down, and left behind.

Forever. To not lose humanity, but to evolve beyond it.

It is easy to see this, in that almost every single person who reads what I wrote in the above single line, is revolted on the deepest levels. 'To lose humanity', horrible words, are they not?

In fact, they are not.

It has nothing to do with being violent and animal to self and other. Losing humanity's drives and impulses has nothing to do with losing forms of respect for 'other'.

The animal in man purposely misconstrues and projects into the give sentence, in order to force it's way into having a future, by any means possible, without foresight, or responsibility. ie, life force drives of the body, in the form of ego. To prevent and lock out logic and rumination, in order to force continuance as it is currently known. The true essence of the body's imperative and core system of interruption and interference.

It is by this internal design and method/way, that 'humanity' is manipulated.

Is it about redefining the meanings of the old terms and coming up with new terms?
Or perhaps just use the same old terms and place them in a new context, in which the element of growth is clearly shown.

By acknowledging our animal nature, (roots) and also our human nature, (trunk, branches and leaves)
and allowing our divine nature to come forth (fruits) we can then direct our development and be able to judge impartially what is obstacling the process and what furthers it.

Analogies that show the overall process and ultimate potential can then free us from all manipulation
as we see all inner components, the role they play, and thus eliminate confusion about arising thoughts.
A new approach to inner morality and integrity.

So if this is about producing fruits (AKA divine virtues) the question arises 'who benefits?
And going further one more step...
inside the fruits then are seeds. And those seeds give us the clue that open the door to infinite further levels of expansion.
Just thinking along those lines can help one go cosmic.
(Interesting how Monsanto reveal their dark intent by manipulating the masses to accept seedless crops.)

[Lost N Found]

Ok I get it and I know it that way and some what different but you lay on the ground and look at the universe and watch and feel the earth move in a place called Sedona and you know and understand where you might be going but not sure. Just give that some thought and tell me how far you been and are you still traveling on that path? Or did that all change?

[Lost N Found]

Ok, forget the past, live for now and you are doing just fine. You are being perfectly clear as to who you are today and that is how it should be. I love you brother and keep on keeping on.

[gripreaper]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5N1HVEEGnA

They came from the skies, spliced their DNA with ours, claimed the divine right to rule, put the ecclesiastical curses, also known as “trusts” over the energetics in the physical and astral, and have built and held the greatest fascist slavery system in the entire cosmos for thousands of years.

These curses are held in trust by black magic rituals, microwave entrainment, and pure ignorance and acquiescence on our part. WE support the energetic constructs which keep us in slavery and keep the constructive trusts from being collapsed.

That’s the big picture view of what we are facing.

On a more personal note, we have in our inherent nature, the ability to manipulate the energetic matrix and to create whatever we want. That is the dichotomy, that we too can hold energy in trust and break the existing energetic trusts. In other words, we have the power to change the way things are.

This is the biggest kept secret, and those who wish to fully control planet earth, who wish to euthanize most of the population and usher in a transhumanist artificial intelligence, run by a complete surveillance and behavioral grid, don’t want us to wake up to this truth and will do anything to keep this truth from coming out. If we ever got organized and put our energy together, we could send those alien interlopers packin back to where they came from.

They are not human, they are Archonic. They do not have souls and cannot be redeemed, so don’t use your empathic nature as a lens through which to view them. The extent to which this is evil is beyond the wildest imagination of most of humanity, and that is why they can get away with what they do. So, forget about 80% of the population, they do not see it.

The rest of us are the divergents. WE see it. We must employ the same metrics we would use if we woke up tomorrow and found out we had cancer. We would detox, eat all organic raw fruits and vegetables, chelate heavy metals from our bodies, drink Kangen water, meditate, exercise, do oxygen therapy, take turmeric and essential oils such as Frankensense, and do a strict MMS protocol.

Same with the cancer we are being faced with energetically. We would make heartfelt declarations of sovereignty, stop supporting the control matrix in every possible way, speak our truth no matter how difficult, and become as self sufficient as possible. We would practice integrity in all of our dealings, and we would hold our fellow empathic humans in regard and see them as ourselves, not as separate, and remove all patriarchal divisiveness from our nature, embracing a unified consciousness which encompasses the feminine principles as well as the masculine.

We would break down the hierarchical structures, the fictional corporate constructs, the fictional selves, and the negative masculine patriarchal bias towards divisiveness and war. We would eliminate these constructs from our nature, forgive ourselves for supporting them, and forgive other empathic souls while systemically extracting the Archonic element from within ourselves, without emotion, and remove it from the energetic matrix. All astral attachments to the Archonic curses and trusts must be severed.

Then we must be vigilant against such constructs in our dealings. The game has dramatically changed in just the last few years, with the latest digital surveillance technology, the ability to collate massive amounts of information, and to use this system (promis software) to entrain the very brainwaves of the collective mind, on a mass scale, for nefarious outcomes. This mind control ability is coupled with physical ingestions which render most souls lethargic and docile, such as in our food, water and air, plus vaccinations, etc. We are dealing with the vast majority of people sound asleep and weak, unable to barely move, being euthanized by slow kill.

And Avalon is not immune. The entire alternative media, the voice for truth is under attack, and has changed dramatically since the days of Art Bell and Bill Cooper 20 years ago. Remember, 10 years ago when Bill and Kerry went out onto the circuit and started interviewing people, they pioneered what we call the alternative media today, the very essence of all that is good and truthful in regards to the deepest core of what that truth is. Bill retains much of this credibility.

Yet, the alt media did not have to face the complete artificial intelligence we face today, the microwave entrainment technologies, the use of astral energies and attachments, or all the concerted efforts to silence the voice of truth, and all the latest tactics being used. Just look at the frequency and amplitude of the false flags being used to entrain the masses, and you can get a glimpse of what the alt media is also facing, only more subtle.

All of this is within the patriarchal war paradigm, the polarizing of one energetic construct against another, to create agitation in the lower chakras of survival and desire, to amplify the fears and passions, to extract that energy for consumption by the astral entities, and to dissipate any chance that the energy could amalgamate into a form manifest for change. This energy is vampired by the astral while we freely expend it and dissipate it in the physical, into nothingness to where its charge has no resonance for change.

Look at the long bolded run on sentence in the opening post of this thread HERE (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82127-To-be-perfectly-clear-from-the-gripreaper). That is the distraction we are facing in our discourse, in our human interaction every day. That is US dissipating our energy, and not amalgamating it for change. And this is where the rubber meets the road. What are the pitfalls of the digital age of information and discourse, and what are our opportunities?

After the recent fissure here at Avalon over the Christine and Karelia threads, many of the core souls private messaged me and said things like, don’t leave, don’t fall on your sword, let it go, we don’t want Avalon to split apart. Others said that we have seen many fissures at Avalon before and it has survived, and it will survive this too, and we so much appreciate your voice. To those who reached out to me, I want to thank you. You are the core energy of Avalon and without you it would not exist (there are others too, don’t get me wrong). I’m being subjective here.

This paragraph is also subjective and is my last words on the subject. I wouldn’t have expected Christine to leave with nothing but an old pillow case, with a change of clothes in it, tied to a hobo stick, and have her stick her thumb out and hitchhike into her future. Since there was no publicly recorded legal binding document by which Christine could have enforced an estate settlement, she had limited choices for distribution of the marital estate, via the vows which her and Bill swore to under the energetic “trusts”.

Should she have made better choices at the time and not been emotional? Probably. Could the gold be considered a part of Bills separate estate? From Bills perspective, that is his claim. Christine saw it as part of the marital estate, as was the property in Equador. I’m not legal counsel, so I can’t make a determination as to how the equitable distribution of the estate would have been distributed equitably, but it looks to me like both of them did okay. Bill got the property in Ecuador and has the full beneficial use thereof, and Christine got some of the liquid assets to move on with her life. The bills got paid for Avalon, and Christine kept some of the donations to live on. My opinion is that it turned out not too bad for both of them, all things considered. End of story, or it should be the end of the story. Regardless, you don’t want to hear my divorce story if you want to know how bad it can get. Ever see the movie “War of the Roses”?

What I cannot get behind, and what is still disconcerting to me, is the public shaming. I cannot think of any reason which justifies that. It is this, from an energetic standpoint, deep within the matrix, which has the longest term implications, which will send ripples out into the matrix, and I don’t know how these energies will return and what astral attachments may or may not manifest as a result. We talk about curses and other deep types of energetics all the time around here, and it just seems to me that playing with this type of fire is ill advised. Okay.

So, the pitfalls come in the things we post which divide and marginalize others, versus the things which unify and uplift others. The things which are hierarchical like “it’s my way or the highway” are patriarchal and are part of the paradigm which we must extract from our natures if we are to embrace the feminine aspects of forgiveness and grace. We have 5000 years of history of the rule of law, to determine what is equitable and what is just, and these tribunals polarize us and keep us fighting for possession. Is that not from a position of scarcity?

Like Catherine Austin Fitts says, the current generation will not give up the ill gotten gains piled up in their retirement accounts and banks accounts, or the equity in their homes and businesses. These gains came from building the Military Industrial Complex in the last 80 years, and is the reason tyranny is running rampant around the world, why we have a fully ensconced bankster debt slavery system of commerce, full corporate control of the wheels of commerce by the globalists, who enforce this slavery and imperialism with their mercenary bully force, the United States military. The three legged stool is complete THAT WE ALL BUILT AND MAINTAIN!

The banksters have taken this and developed technology which is hundreds of years ahead of what’s available on main street, and have massive resources hidden and a massive hidden economy as well, as per Joseph Farrell. Read what he is saying. Joseph Farrell has a pretty good big picture view of how things really are.

WE are the gatekeepers for our own slavery, our peers and our families maintaining this control grid of slavery against us, and justifying it because they have no choice, or they need to keep a roof over their heads and feed their families, or it’s just my job.

That is no longer good enough. Patriarchal hierarchies, public shaming, survivalist scarcity, and divisiveness must be eliminated and free energy and abundance must emerge.

Merry Christmas to all of you and I hope that going forward, we can use the latest technology for unity, and stop the totalitarian tiptoe towards total fascist control, and put aside our notions of scarcity and open the venue for the white hats to come forward and for all of us to not be distracted by the latest false flag, or the latest news story, and embrace the things which unify us and not those things which tear us apart.

Love
Gripreaper

[Gardener]

Beautifully said Grip :star:
I didn't pm you (I wanted to) but I knew your inbox would be FULL. :) I once said 'when grip speaks I listen' and so it is.

Because.....
It is so
I hear you
I totally agree

Our internal spark is so much brighter and stronger than their false light electronic sputter, that we just might make it, it will take only a fraction of their numbers. As each day passes and more and more say no to those emotional knee jerk reactions, the closer we get.
Much love
Cathryn

[observer]

It's for exactly these reasons, and conclusions stated by grip in comment #52 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82127-To-be-perfectly-clear-from-the-gripreaper&p=1032323&viewfull=1#post1032323), that I shudder to my knees in despair for the treatment that specific members received for speaking their individual truth, in ways that the Tribal Council deemed unacceptable, and offensive. (solely on their own, shrouded in secrecy, and without any outside consideration)

Surely there is a need for moderation in any community, but at what point does one deliver the blow-of-death for a moral disagreement? The guillotine should be reserved for only the most offensive infractions.

It has always been my humble opinion that Project Avalon is a Community of Souls, no single entity greater or lessor than any other. Each of us express our individual truth in our own individual way. Who am I to condemn and ban-for-life any individual because I'm offended by something someone says, regardless of how offended I might be.

It saddens my heart to see this community run with the same consequences of a totalitarian regime.

Avalon is my community, just as it is all the other members, and I have no intentions of leaving the community simply because there are those who disagree with my opinions....