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Cidersomerset

10th May 2015, 14:41

This interview discusses multiple sightings case of a large triangle flying over
the peak district on 17th March 1997 , just a few days after the Phoenix lights
13th March 1997 , which was a much larger event in the US also debunked for
many years as 'flares', and other sightings in the 1990's.

It ties in with the view after the fall of communism in 1990 , and in the lead
up to the millennium with many TV sky fy movies / shows like the X files
culminating in Steven Greers disclosure event in early 2001 , disclosure seemed
to be on the agenda and only an actual 'official' announcement away. Then came
9/11 and ' Wham bam uncle Sam ' The Neo - con officialdom closed shop and we
were back to Roswell so to speak !

Though in the last decade starting for me with going on line and finding Bill &
Kerry in 2006 interest and researchers have brought UFO's and other phenomena
to the fore , and interest in disclosure is probably greater than ever , but still we
cannot get that 'smoking gun' that makes it impossible to deny in the mainstream
and debunkers.

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RICHPLANET TV - The Sheffield UFO Incident - 17/03/2015 Show

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RICHPLANET TV - The Sheffield UFO Incident - 17/03/2015 Show

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Published on 23 Mar 2015

Please visit Richard D Hall's website RICHPLANET.NET http://www.richplanet.net ... to
see all his past shows, and so much more, covering all types of alternate issues that the
mainstream refuses to acknowledge.

In March 1997 a major air operation took place over the Peak District. Military jets
were scrambled to the area shortly after witnesses reported a huge black silent
triangular craft in the air travelling slowly overhead. After this, the sound and
tremor of something crash landing was reported. The MOD have not admitted that
one of their planes crashed, but much evidence points to a crash of a Royal Air
Force jet, and also points to a government cover up. Questions which remain
unanswered about the case are : What were the military chasing and why? and, did
a military jet crash in the process? Max Burns who has carried out extensive
investigations seems to have some of the answers. The case is known for being
hugely controversial because certain pro government "mouthpieces" have been
attempting to sweep the case under the carpet from day one.

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Max Burns - The Sheffield UFO Incident

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Published on 14 Sep 2012

Max Burns is a UK- based researcher whose has investigated topics a diverse as the
Bilderberg Group and UFO phenomenon. His investigations into the Sheffield UFO
Incident -- sometimes known as the Howden Moor incident - led to appearances on
BBC Radio Sheffield to discuss the allegations of an unacknowledged air crash in
the Pennine Mountains near Sheffield.

In this lecture Max details UFO sightings over Sheffield and the Pennines on the
evening on March 24th, 1997 and also provides supporting testimony of witnesses
to an air crash. Highlighting the extent to which Dr David Clarke (head of
journalism at Sheffield Hallam University) and ufologist Andrew Roberts went to
shut down discussion and analysis of information pertaining to this event and the
efforts made to discredit the case - Max lays out the case that these "UFO
researchers" and a number of others - are in fact agents of disinformation working
to some other agenda.

Max Burns presented "The Sheffield UFO Incident" on Saturday August 6th, 2011 at
the British Exopolitics Expo at the University of Leeds.

The Usual Suspects -- Anatomy of a Disinformation Campaign in Ufology
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=179&Itemid=51

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Governor Admits to GOVERNMENT UFO COVERUP!!! The Phoenix Lights

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80577-Applause-at-solar-plane-s-first-leg-landing-in-Oman-looks-a-bit-like-Phoenix-lights

Cidersomerset

10th May 2015, 15:21

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Dr David Clark and other UFO dis info agents have been debunking this event and
others like Rendlesham to cover this up and keep it deniable in the governments
eye from the mainstream press and public.

The Usual Suspects -- Anatomy of a Disinformation Campaign in Ufology
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=179&Itemid=51

UK UFO Debunker Strikes Again .....Will Dr. David Clarke Ever Get Anything Right?
http://www.theufochronicles.com/2010/01/uk-ufo-debunker-strikes-again.html

UFO files released August 2009 at The National Archives (UK) - video
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20130205000000/youtube.com/watch?v=kcIF5INyAec

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Dr . David Clarke official MOD archive gatekeeper and debunker.........

Since 2008 I have been working with The National Archives (TNA) as their
consultant for the on going release of the UFO files created by Britain's Ministry of
Defence. My book, The UFO Files, was published by TNA in September 2009.

http://drdavidclarke.co.uk/

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Other Gatekeepers include imo and many others....

MOD Spokesman and UFO Skeptic Nick Pope on Jimmy Church Fade To Black..4/3/15

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80469-MOD-Spokesman-and-UFO-Skeptic-Nick-Pope-on-Jimmy-Church-Fade-To-Black..4-3-15

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Gary Heseltine This Morning ITV1 April 17 2012

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Published on 17 Apr 2012

Gary Heseltine and Professional Debunker and Skeptic Chris French shout it out over the
"Facts" of the Redlesham Forest UFO events, 1980 after a challenge laid down by Gary
on the same show in Feb 2012

Gary's position in essence:- the events over the three nights were UFO Related. French
states in essence the US military were clueless idiots who saw a lighthouse, one of the
official Debunkers position. Nick Pope gets a slamming.

They used a geiger counter in the wrong manner, showing doubt on the radiation measurements.
These USAF Officers and men, who were in charge of an active Nuclear base in time of high alert
are slandered by devbunkers as clueless and "mistaken" poor old sods who shouldn't be allowed
out without a minder.
Both positions rigoressly defended, in a hot debate. Would Chris trust anyone who saw anything?
On his logic, NO. Especially when they are in the services?

Cidersomerset

10th May 2015, 17:24

Gary Heseltine Interview - A retired police detective speaks out on UFO's
explains how it should be done , and starts off by going thru witness
procedure and much more...

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Published on 9 Sep 2014

A great talk with Gary Heseltine on the subject of Ufology, Reported cases, credible
witnesses, evience evaluation, ET visitation and some ideas for the future. For more
information on Gary's work visit: http://www.prufospolicedatabase.co.uk and for
more on upcoming events, interviews, and tours visit http://www.modernknowledge.ca

Cidersomerset

10th May 2015, 19:36

This starts off for the first 14 mins as a excellent UFO sighting by 4 police
officers in two different locations observing the same incident. Then 14 mins
in Andy Roberts debunker says one of the officers who experienced aprox 30
minutes missing time , was probably in a trance , an altered state and what
he witnessed could have been a double decker bus picking up mill workers
probably a bus ( usual Bo----k's ).The pro debunkers are great totally insane
in this documentary ...LOL....Dr. David Clarke and Dr. Ian Griffin and psychologist
Chris French are so obviously trying to debunk the validity of these four officers,it is
potentially an attack on their credibility and sincerity...LOL .

Police are human and there are good and bad officers, but this is not the thing they
would typically make up.Not sure when this film was made , one source say 2012 ?
but it looks a bit earlier ?

Gary Hesseltine is also in the documentary quoting from his police witness
case files.UK UFO Cases : The Strange Case of Zigmund Adamski & PC Alan
Godfrey – Nov 1980 is also highlighted in the documentary...

http://www.ufo-mystery.co.uk/images/UK/80sadamski.jpg
http://www.ufo-mystery.co.uk/ukcases/80sgodfrey.php

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UFOs: Britain's Closes Encounters - REAL EVIDENCE (Alien UFO Documentary)

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Published on 18 Jul 2014

UFO DISCLOSURE IS HERE - http://e33749cz39-vtudmohnf58nc25.hop...

UFOs: Britain's Closes Encounters - REAL EVIDENCE (Alien UFO Documentary)

Over the last thirty years there have been thousands of reported sightings of unidentified
flying objects over the British Isles. Numerous eye-witnesses have testified to seeing strange
lights in the sky and other mysterious phenomena. Many of these UFO sightings remain
unexplained to this day, but what, or who, where they? Could they really be evidence of
extraterrestrial life?

Britains Closest Encounters looks at four of the most astonishing and baffling UFO stories in
Britain and hears first-hand from those who witnessed some of these sightings and examines
the truth behind some of Britains most celebrated UFO sightings.

Cidersomerset

10th May 2015, 21:37

Case highlighted in the vid above............odd coincidence his name was Adamski ?

Friday, 12 December 2014
The Mysterious Death of Zigmund Adamski

Zigmund Adamski

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At 15:30 on the 6th of June 1980 in a town called Tingley in Yorkshire 56 year old
Zigmund Adamski left his house to pop to the shop to buy some potatoes. Zigmund
was a retired coal miner who had moved to Britain in 1960 with his wife Leokadia
and they had been married for thirty years. Leokadia suffered from multiple
sclerosis and was bed bound so Zigmund was her main carer. They were the typical
retired couple, loved each other very much and were happy friendly people
according to their friends and neighbours. Zigmund passed his neighbour on the
way to the shop which was just around the corner from his house and seemed in
good spirits, he greeted him a good afternoon and continued on his way. Zigmund
never made it to the shop however, he completely disappeared without a trace and
turned up dead five days later on the 11th of June laying on top of a large coal
heap twenty miles from his house.

Newspaper article printed at the time of the disappearance

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The initial assumption would be that he either committed suicide or was murdered
but the story takes some very bizarre twists. Firstly the coal heap he was found on
top of was estimated to be about twelve to fifteen feet high, secondly the sides of
the coal heap were covered in loose coal and showed absolutely no signs of having
been disturbed by anyone climbing up it. The weirdest thing of all was the fact that
his body was spotted at 3:45 in the afternoon and was clearly visible to anyone in
the coal yard. The yard was used daily and had last been used at 11:00 that
morning and the staff stated it would have been impossible for the body to have
been there at that time as they definitely would have spotted it. Trevor Parker the
yard owners son immediately phoned the police and at ten past four that afternoon
PC Alan Godfrey arrived at the scene. The body was retrieved from the coal heap
and on examination it was discovered Zigmund Adamski had died of a heart attack
but there were other factors that made this case really confusing.

The remains of Zigmund Adamski found on the coal tip

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First of all it was noted by the pathologist that Zigmund had burn marks over his
neck, shoulders and the back of his head which were covered by some strange Gel
which despite being sent off to a home office pathologist for testing has never been
identified. His clothes were clean and undamaged, he was wearing his vest but his
shirt was missing and has never been found, his coat was buttoned up wrong, his
trousers were undone and his shoes hadn't been put on properly. The coroner
concluded that he had eaten well right up until the day before his body was
discovered, he only had about a days worth of stubble on his face and the burns
were said to be about two days old. Despite the fact his body was found in the
middle of a coal yard on top of a fifteen foot coal heap there wasn't a trace of coal
dust on his clothing, investigating officers stated it was almost like he had been
dropped onto the heap from above.

The police at the scene picked up on the fact Mr Adamski had a look of fear on his
face and the coroner who carried out the post Mortem made the following
comments in his notes "Mr Adamski must have known great fear or pain before
passing" it was also concluded that Zigmund Adamski had died around 11am that
day. Several months after the discovery of Mr Adamski's body PC Godfrey who had
been the first officer on the scene received a call regarding some cows which had
disappeared from a farmers field and had been reportedly wandering around a local
council estate. The council estate happened to be less than a mile away from the
coal yard where Adamski's body was discovered. On arriving at the scene PC
Godfrey rounded a corner in his police car and was met by a large diamond shaped
craft hovering several feet above the ground. It was the early hours of the morning
and he immediately tried radioing for backup only to find something was stopping
his radio from working. The PC then grabbed his notebook and started to sketch the
craft as best he could, he suddenly found himself much further down the road than
the place he had originally parked.

Alan Godfrey describing the UFO he and several others witnessed

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The craft had disappeared at this point, he had lost 35 minutes of time and his
boots were split and scuffed as if he'd been dragged across the ground. A member
of the public who had been in the area at the time had also witnessed and reported
the strange craft that morning. PC Godfrey then had to return to the station to
report what had happened to him and request help in searching for the missing
cattle. On returning to the area the cattle had returned to the field they went
missing from, the gate was locked tight and there were no signs of how they had
got in or out as the soft mud around the only gate didn't have a single hoof print in
it. A few weeks later the press had somehow got hold of his UFO encounter and ran
a story regarding it, this caused embarrassment to himself and his colleagues, the
pressure eventually got too much for him and he left the police force. One night
while laying in bed Alan Godfrey's wife started hearing strange noises right outside
the house, she tried in vain to wake her husband and eventually the noise
disappeared and she gave up and fell asleep.

The next morning on waking up they had sex, nothing unusual in a married couple
having sex you might think. Three years prior to this PC Godfrey was badly beaten
whilst trying to arrest three men, the resulting attack left Godfrey with only one
testicle causing him to become impotent and he was also unable to get an erection.
That morning after the strange noises outside the house was the first time in three
years him and his wife were able to have sex. Not only that but Mrs Godfrey found
out shortly after that she had fallen pregnant. Some time after this there were
many reports of a man handing out leaflets around the local area calling for the
immediate death of Alan Godfrey. The police investigated and despite a good
description of the man he was never traced. When Alan Godfrey was a child he
recalled seeing a bright ball of light flying around his bedroom, when he was 18 he
and his girlfriend were driving home in the early hours of the morning when a
woman and a dog stepped out in front of his car, he just managed to stop in time
but when he got out of his car they had completely vanished. Shook up by what
had happened he drove straight home, when they got there they realised they had
lost two hours of time during the incident.

There was also a time when a different girlfriend (gets around a bit don't he) who
he ended up marrying, walked into his house and was met by a black dog, the dog
ran up to her wagging it's tail before licking her hand and running off up the stairs.
When Godfrey came out of the kitchen to greet her she asked him about the dog,
she described the dog to him and he stated he used to have a dog matching that
description but it had died years before. They then immediately searched the house
top to bottom but found nothing. The strange death of Zigmund Adamski was never
solved, it was never understood how or why somebody would leave his body in
such a public and inaccessible place in the middle of the day. His whereabouts for
five days were never discovered, the weird scorch marks on his neck and shoulders
were never explained, the strange gel put over them has never been identified and
the fact that he looked liked he had been stripped naked at some point and crudely
redressed probably after he died was never given an explanation.

Another thing that still remains a mystery is why would he have been going
through the trouble of looking after his appearance by shaving the day before he
died and keeping a good diet when he was in such obvious pain and fear according
to the police and coroner. The strange UFO activity in the area around the time of
his disappearance has also added fuel to the fire. The coroner in charge of
investigating the disappearance and death of Zigmund Adamski made the following
statement in his notes on the case "I know some might quibble about me putting
these two cases together, but for me they are inextricably linked. In retrospect, the
autumn of 1980 seems to have been an important time in UFO history, leading up
to the extraordinary events at Rendlesham Forest in Suffolk over Christmas. The
more I have read about the strange death of Mr Adamski, and the bizarre
experiences of PC Godfrey, the more complex and fascinating they have become"
he also said years later that the case had completely mystified him and he has
never ruled out possible UFO involvement. Under Hypnotic regression Alan Godfrey
recalled bright lights filling his police car on the morning he witnessed the UFO, he
remembers being taken to a room with a large black dog, a tall handsome man, a
small Alien type creature and some robot type figures. Alan recalled being made to
lay on a table and having his shoes removed before having strange objects placed
on his arms and legs, he also recalls a foul smell and being in acute pain. Let's be
honest if the whole UFO abductee thing is true then the ordeal Alan Godfrey went
through sounds very similar to what Zigmund Adamski may have possibly gone
through, no wonder the bloke had a heart attack.

http://www.pleasedontprobeus.com/2014/12/the-mysterious-death-of-zigmund-adamski.html

Cidersomerset

10th May 2015, 22:05

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ALIEN ABDUCTION CLAIMS IN YORKSHIRE

Reconstruction showing the discovery of a miner's body in a Yorkshire coal yard
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MYSTERY | a reconstruction depicts the discovery of a Yorkshire miner's body
A mysterious disappearance, a body with strange burns and an inexplicable
substance that baffled scientists. Inside Out investigates the presence of
paranormal activity in the death of a Yorkshire miner.Zigmund Adamski, a 56 year
old miner, went missing from his home in Tingley, near Wakefield in June 1980. He
had gone out to do some shopping.

To Zigmund’s colleagues at Lofthouse Colliery, it was a complete mystery.

Grim discovery

Zigmund Adamski
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Zigmund Adamski's body was discoverd in a coal yard

Five days after he disappeared, Zigmund’s body was discovered 20 miles from his
home at a coal yard in Todmorden. Zigmund’s body was lying on top of a pile of
coal. He was wearing a suit but his shirt, watch and wallet were missing. On the
back of his head, neck and shoulders were mysterious burns which attracted lots of
attention.

Baffled

James Turnbull, the coroner who dealt with Zigmund’s death, says it’s the biggest
mystery of his career. The coroner was baffled because although Zigmund had been
missing for five days, he only had one day’s growth of beard. He says, "The
question of where he was before he died and what led to his death just could not be
answered."

James also said a strange ointment that appeared to have been used on Zigmund’s
burns could not be identified by forensic scientists. Exhaustive checks failed to
reveal any record of Zigmund having been treated at any hospital during his
missing five days. It was at this point that questions began occurring, regarding the
origin of this inexplicable ointment and who applied it to Zigmund.

Alien abduction

It was not just the usual investigators, the police and coroners, who were attracted
to this case. One of the most famous UFOlogists of all time, also called Adamski
offered his own amazing theories on the tragedy. He believed aliens from outer
space abducted the Yorkshire miner by mistake. The speculation of an
extraterrestrial encounter was fuelled by the policeman who originally found
Zigmund’s body, Alan Godfrey. Six months after finding Zigmund’s body, Alan was
again on duty in Todmorden at 5 am.

He claims he also encounter a UFO, which made headlines all over the world.
Alan says, "I wish I'd never seen the UFO, particularly because of the effects on my
children." "It's not easy having a policeman as a father but when he's a policeman
who saw a UFO its even worse."This was a huge turning point in Alan Godfrey’s life.
He left the police force and has a new role as a speaker at charity fundraising events.

Verdict

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Alan Godfrey is in no doubt of paranormal presence

In the past 20 years there has been many claimed sightings in the Pennine hills
around Todmorden. It’s regarded as the Britain’s UFO hotspot. But serious UFO
watchers dismiss most of these Pennine sighting as just lights in the sky.
The corner is equally unconvinced about the presence of paranormal activity.
Although he still has a raft of unanswered questions regarding Zigmund’s death,
James is opting for an earthly rather than alien explanation at present. But he does
say, "In fifty years time, if we discover aliens have been visiting us and we didn't
know about it, then that might give an answer."

But after all these years, Alan Godfrey still has no doubts, leaving thoughts of the
extra terrestrial in the minds of all those involved.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/yorkslincs/series2/ufo_alien_abduction_yorkshire_pennine_sighting_adamski_mystery.shtml

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Its quite amusing that the other guests include the then current Dr. Who and
his assistant and also a young David Icke in his BBC days. Who ironically enough
did not seem to convinced. The next article shows some early Billy Meier film.
Then they do a regression session under hypnosis , which they could not
show the actual going under procedure as it is illegal under UK law. Also cover
some other cases , but did not catch the end of the show on the U'tube.

PC Alan Godfrey UFO Witness on BBC Breakfast Time TV Show - 1980's

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Published on 23 Aug 2014

The 1980 Alan Godfrey case is the main abduction case that Gary has researched in
depth. He thinks this case is important because as well as Godfrey’s testimony,
there are several independent witnesses that saw something strange in the sky at
the same time in the local area.

Timeline of Alan Godfrey’s experience. On November 28th, 1980, Alan was in his
patrol car in Todmorden, West Yorkshire. He was sent to check out reports of cattle
wandering around a local council estate. He saw a bright light in the road ahead
and thought it was a bus. As he got closer, though, it became clear that this was
not the case. He found himself looking at a rotating object, hovering over the road.
He sketched the craft in his notebook. There was a burst of light and he found
himself driving further along the road with no sign of the UFO. He returned to the
police station and later found that he was missing about twenty-five minutes of
time. The sole of one of his boots was split and he had an itchy, red mark on his foot.

Later, he would undergo hypnotic regression, where it emerged that he was taken
from the car and led onto the craft. Here, he saw robot-like creatures and a
humanoid wearing a black skull cap. Gary has studied the video tapes of Alan’s
hypnosis session and has concluded that they were well conducted. Alan was not
lying. He had nothing to gain from making up his story and, indeed, his experience
has had a negative effect on his life.

Gary would also point to one pioneer of abduction research, the late Dr John Mack.
Mack had concluded that many abductions go back to 'the victims’ childhood. Alan
Godfrey had spoken of seeing a blue ‘tennis ball’ in his room as a child. Others have
reported these blue orbs both in their bedrooms and other places, such as while
driving.As a police officer, Gary was interested in evidence, and this case has so
much of it!

Cidersomerset

11th May 2015, 05:52

This incident has definitely effected and stayed with him for
more than 30 years , as you would expect if it was a genuine
experience . He is consistent with his story and relived aprox
30mins missing time under hypnotic regression . Interesting
interview and something happened out of the ordinary that night.

He goes into more details about how he was victimised and forced
to retire and endure psychiatric evaluation and other victimisation.
Presumably to discredit him as he had gone on the press and TV,
seems like a classic case of deformation of character and setting
him up for going public and trying to shut the incident down, by
framing him for a serious crime to totally discredit his reputation.

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Alan Godfry - British Police Officer - UFO Encounter

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Published on 24 Nov 2013

For more information, visit http://www.SiriusDisclosure.com.

Officer Alan Godfry is a retired police officer who served in the West Yorkshire Metropolitan Police in
England from 1975 to 1984. On November 28th 1980, he and five other officers witnessed a UFO.
He saw a diamond shaped object about 75 feet away hovering just five feet above the ground and
he estimates it to be about 20 feet wide and about 14 feet tall. The bottom half appeared to be
rotating and the top was stationary and it did not make any noise. Months after reporting this
incident, he started being harassed. He was transferred 50 miles away and was eventually barred
from entering his own police station. Contraband drugs were placed in his locker.

Cidersomerset

11th May 2015, 16:00

This thread has slightly gone off at a tangent but worth putting these vids
together of a strange case that has not been explained yet.......
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Strange But True - Todmorden UFO

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Uploaded on 22 Nov 2011

Taken from an early pilot episode of "Strange But True" LWT TV Program. Aired on 21st May 1993

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12th May 2015, 02:44

Cidersomerset

12th May 2015, 06:39

[/QUOTE]Gary is great! Stan [/QUOTE]

Yes he is one of the leading researchers in this area. I thought
I'd play the most recent interview on u' tube I could see....

Open Your Mind (OYM) Radio - Gary Heseltine - March 15th 2015

interview start aprox 20 mins in..........

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Published on 16 Mar 2015

Gary Heseltine - Ex-Detective Constable, Runs The UFO UK PRUFO Police Website,
Increase In Photos/Videos Of Sightings, They Are Intelligently Controlled, Craft
Formations, Disclosure, Congressional Hearing, Steve Bassett, John Podesta,
Simon Sharman - Cosmic Whistleblowers, UFO Truth Magazine, Rendlesham
Forest Incident, Government Agreed To Pay Out, New Information Coming
Out All At The Same Time, CREN Starting Up, Roswell, Obama Not Exposing
Things, 9/11 and Moon Landing, Black Vault Website.

Cidersomerset

30th May 2015, 12:18

UFO Discussion Richard Hall Gary Heseltine , Talks about new magazine and the
guest contributor columnists from throughout Ufology and other subjects , like
the mock congressional hearings organised by Steve Bassett. They also comment
on Steven Greer and the Sirius movie and 'Question ' Nick Popes motives and
credentials and usual 'Nick Pope waffle ' ...LOL

Other subjects are the Todmorden UFOcase and animal and human mutilation.

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Published on 4 Nov 2014

Richard D Hall interviews Gary Heseltine UK ex-police officer and ufologist.

Cidersomerset

22nd September 2015, 15:14

UFO's and the Media - Gary Heseltine Lecture - 18th April 2015

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Published on 26 Apr 2015

Gary Heseltine presents his new lecture 'UFO's and the Media at UFO Academy's
'into the unknown' UFO conference held at the beautiful setting of High Elms Manor,
Watford, Herts, UK on the 18th April 2015.
Please subscribe to our magazine 'UFO Truth Magazine', details can be found at https://www.ufotruthmagazine.co.uk

Cidersomerset

3rd October 2015, 11:00

An interesting article seemingly taken seriously by a relatively serious news outlet...

Though the shape of that just ' coincidental ' design of the the roundabout and layout
is odd. Remember the best hiding place is in plain sight and they like to take the 'p---' !
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Is This the British Area 51: Claims of Secret Alien Research Centre in Farnborough

By David Icke on 3rd October 2015 UFO Activity

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A British paranormal investigation team has made the claim that there is an alien
research centre at a ex MOD base in Farnborough now run by Qinetic and in an area of
constant ufo acvtivity.BEAMS have produced a 109 page report into the base and claim
there is a massive underground research complex below the site.

Read more: Is This the British Area 51: Claims of Secret Alien Research Centre in Farnborough

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EXCLUSIVE: British Area 51? Claims secret ALIEN research base uncovered in Farnborough

PARANORMAL investigators claim to have rumbled a top-secret Ministry of Defence
(MoD) alien research centre hidden deep underground in a UFO hotspot.

By Jon Austin
PUBLISHED: 05:43, Thu, Oct 1, 2015 | UPDATED: 09:05, Thu, Oct 1, 2015

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Signs from above: The Qinetiq site, and insets Aboriginal art and the Farnborough flying saucer

The British Earth and Aerial Mysteries Society (BEAMS) has released a bizarre 109-page
report, following a "special investigation" into the former MoD Defence Evaluation and
Research Agency site now run by specialist defence, security and aerospace developer
Qinetiq.BEAMS claims Farnborough has had high UFO sighting and alien abduction
activity for years and thinks this might be connected to the alleged secret base.

The group is convinced there is as much underground as above and what goes on there
involves aliens, UFOs, intergalactic defence and futuristic flight development.Their
bizarre theory is based upon cryptic alien symbols they have "discovered" within the
site, alleged intelligence service whistleblower testimonies, and the responses from
psychic researchers, the report claims.

The BEAMS website says it was set up in 1991 as as a non profit-making studies group
Into the paranormal.It said: "We have set up a network of active investigators who
relay their gathered information through to our HQ.

"As reporters of the truth, duties of the BEAMS Team include research, interviewing,
photography and journalism."

Two of its key researchers, chairman Kenneth Parsons and his "alien abductee" partner
Hilary Porter, carried out the "inquiry" and said evidence of the underground areas
came from government whistleblowers.But they said the smoking gun evidence for the
secret base were cryptic signs in the building and on site.The couple concluded that part
of the site's road system has been made to look like an alien being depicted in ancient
Aboriginal paintings in Australia, as a sign of the base's significance.

On top of this they said part of the building has been made to look like a flying saucer.

The report said: "As with the top-secret Area 51 in Nevada, and how that officially
did "not exist" for decades…if what we are about to expose 'does not exist' either (as it
is bound to be claimed), then our Government/military have absolutely nothing to fear
from us talking about it - do they?"

The pair claimed the Qinetiq site was the biggest of three secret underground facilities,
also in the UK, including two other suspected ones.

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Case closed: The 'smoking gun' evidence for Qinetiq site being UK Area 51

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Drawing by Hilary Porter of one of her UFO sightings in Farnborough BEAMS

Their report said Government whistleblowers had revealed: "Officers at Chicksands
regularly simulated possible outcomes of nuclear war with their counterparts operating
from an underground command centre beneath Qinetiq in Farnborough.

"One source (who holds a sensitive government post) says that he knows several
people currently employed at British underground facilities where acquired alien
technology and genetics programmes are being carried out."

The couple said the Cody technology park was also under tight security with armed
guards and secret cameras.

But the clincher, in their opinion, was the roundabout system near the main building.

Referring to an aerial slide of the roadways on site, which highlighted this roundabout,
the report said: "We suggest that this is a stylised, diagrammatic representation of a
grey/reptilian figure - just like the Aboriginal supreme creator paintings attempted to
portray - which is only visible like this from the air."

Posing the question "why was it there?", the report said: "Why incorporate a massive
image of an alien, or supreme creator within a top secret subterranean military site -
somewhere so sensitive that it is virtually our own British equivalent of the Area 51
complex in Nevada."

They surmised that the powers behind the site were confident the public would never
see through their cryptic code, but "those" who needed to would recognise it instantly.

Besides, if the roundabout did not do the trick, there was more.

The couple concluded the roof and canopy of the main building had purposely been
designed in the shape of a flying saucer just to hammer home the purpose of the secret
base to those in the know.They said the existence of the "underground" parts of the site
described by "sources" were further proved by Qinetiq's involvement in mining coupled
with a strange rumbling noise they allegedly heard a cross Farnborough over the last 15
years, which they deduced was it being secretly expanded.

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July 2007 UFO Lights Farnborough Hants NOT CGI or Flares Chinese Lanterns or Cars

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Mike Gorman

3rd October 2015, 12:07

Interesting to see a pre-revelation David Icke on that program!

Cidersomerset

3rd October 2015, 12:30

Interesting to see a pre-revelation David Icke on that program!

It adds credence to first , his political involvement , before becoming disillusioned
with mainstream politics and media. Followed by his 'spiritual' awakening in Peru
back in the early 1990's that set him on the path he took from then upto today.

For anyone wondering what we are referring to aprox 7.30 mins into the below
inter view David makes a comment about the 'Hills'. Reffering to to Betty & Barney
Hill who had a abduction event around 1961 ? . So like many of us was interrested
in mysterious events.

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PC Alan Godfrey UFO Witness on BBC Breakfast Time TV Show - 1980's

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