What is your understanding of Timelines with respect to collective consciousness and individual consciousness?

[Lancet]

Hi all,

this may be a basic question, but one I find quite fundamental to my understanding.

Many people including chanellers like Bashar have said that we create our reality through our thoughts, intent and action, and thereby creating our future reality. Thus there are many timelines that exist in which we can create our reality. There also exists other timelines/realities which are just as real in other dimensions. we just have to choose which one we want. I understand this very well in regards to the individual.

When we have a society or collective consciousness, how do we create our realities with respect to each other? We have similar realities but not exact realities? How do these elements interplay?

Is there a law or rule that governs this? I have heard that a governing principle is probability, (and using the mandlebrot theory.) Human interaction gives rise to probabilistic outcomes, which in turn creates the reality as a summation of collective will. Is there another explanation?

Everyone says that the future and past is constantly changing as we are constantly changing/evolving/experiencing, so nothing is set in stone. Not the future or the past. in fact time doesnt exist, right? if time doesnt exist, what is the relationship between the past, future and present to us? Do we say it is fluid, static, or grainy?

Delving further into this, how do prophecies come about? One example is 2012. How do we account for these watershed dates that have been given to us? Given the countless probabilities that may have permutated.. this gives the impression of destiny and fate.

Is destiny or fate a human concept or something that was created for us (ie implanted)?

Thanks for your time, and kind comments if you so wish to comment.

I am always learning!!

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Oh my goodness! You should be working for Bethesda Softworks (got a time machine? haha) -- here is a bit of the lore from one of their earlier games:


A Dragon Break is a phenomenon where linear time is broken, and becomes non-linear. The "Dragon" refers to Akatosh, the Dragon God of Time. A Dragon Break not only precedes significant changes in Tamriel, but challenges mortal comprehension. It is a re-alignment of time and space in response to an event which makes the normal continuity of reality impossible. The chaos which ensues is a refrain of the chaos of the Dawn Era. The area that is noticeably affected, and length of the interval measured in the areas not apparently affected, varies with each Dragon Break. Historically, the cause is often attributed to mortals manipulating divine matters.

They say 200 Y E A R S of "man hours" of development went into the making of the game Morrowind alone.
One of its main features, rather unavoidable in the Main Quest line in fact, was the element of Time and the intended manipulation of Time/Timespace/The SPheres by gods and mortals alike.

There were many mysterious texts and images scattered throughout Tamriel,
chiefly relating to the disappearance of the Dwarves (d'oh, they messed with time!),
and to Time itself, (i.e. the Egg of Time) and of course the Gods and their interactions with mortals who mastered the concept of spacetime (Azura and the Box)...

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragon_Break

"The egg of time"
http://images.uesp.net/e/eb/MW-book-Egg_Of_Time_p3.jpg



http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Azura_and_the_Box

(read that story, it's a nail biter!)




Your thread is really thought provoking... I hope more people contribute :)

[Herbert]

In my opinion Chris Thomas gives the best answer to your questions. The following is taken from this essay by C.T.

http://www.thespiritguides.co.uk/Article_Time-Lines_-_An_Essay_by_Chris_Thomas_8298.aspx

Quantum Physics’ Alternate Universes

Most of the explanations provided by scientists are based on the world being a physical place; as theorised by Isaac Newton in the 1700’s. Science sees the conditions that exist on Earth and tries to apply those same conditions to the Universe as a whole. The scientific view began to change about 100 years ago when they began to explore that which exists at levels below the size of an atom - the term “quantum” means the smallest quantity of some physical attribute that a process or system contains.

In this new realm, everything that they thought applied to the world had to be newly explored and understood. As far as science is concerned, the quantum world bears little resemblance to the world outside, the world they thought they understood. As their exploration of the quantum progressed, they began to develop new theories to make their experiments explainable.

One thing they did find was that the scientist could create his own reality. If a scientist “thought” that light travelled in particles, his experiments “proved” that light travelled in particles. If a scientist believed that light travelled in waves, his experiments “proved” that it travelled in waves. In other words, the experimenter “created” his own reality.

The experiments and observations carried out into quantum phenomenon showed time and time again that it is what the scientist believed the outcome would be that determined what actually happened. This led to a great deal of theorising about how the world, and the Universe at large, actually works.

As they day-dreamed about the nature of reality and how the scientist could create their own, they began to postulate about “alternate” realities. Quite why they should do this is not explained given that they have not even begun to understand our current reality.

Essentially, scientists studying the quantum world started thinking about their experiments – if what I think is going to occur does occur, what happens to all of the answers received by other scientists? To try to make sense of this, they came up with the idea that every scientist’s experiment formed its own reality, and these alternate realities must exist somewhere. If the nature of the Universe is determined by how someone thinks it works then all of the other theories must create a universe of their own. And if new universes were created, then there must be different time-lines running parallel to ours.

So this is how the concept of alternate, parallel universes arose and how the concept of alternate and parallel time-lines fitted in with it.

The alternate, parallel universe concept runs something like this: If I am faced with making a decision, I consider all of the possible alternate options I am aware of. I consider all of these alternative answers and choose one which I believe will work and then act on it. Taking action on my decision fits into the current time-line.

But what of all of the alternate options that I rejected? Each of those answers were viable in some way and could have resolved the problem I needed to decide on. Therefore, each possible option could lead to a different solution to the problem and that alternative solution must exist somewhere which runs on its own independent time-line which obviously does not encroach on our current time-line therefore, it must exist in an alternate universe!

The author’s own research into this theory would indicate that it is a hangover from too many post-conference alcoholic beverages.

To return to reality and the Akashic.

The Nature of This Universe

Our Universe exists because a question was asked and the question was: What would happen if...? This question was asked by the Creationery Source who wanted to find answers to the possibilities offered by its own existence.
For a more complete overview of the history and purpose of this Universe, see “Synthesis” (published by Fortynine Publishing).

In order to answer this question, The Creator brought about our Universe. The “What if...?” that our Universe explores, is the question: “What would happen if a Universe existed where all of the souls that inhabited it had complete freedom of choice over their actions?” This is the reason and purpose for our Universe to exist.

In order to explore this question, The Creator built an energy “envelope” which contained all of the energy frequencies that allowed for a full exploration of the original Question.

Into this envelope, free-thinking and free-acting souls were Created that would explore the answer on the Creator’s behalf.

These free-acting and free-thinking souls comprise the thirteen “races” that inhabit our Universe (see the author’s books for a full description).

These races break down into two different types of existence. The first are souls who do not have any physical form or density but exist in a state of pure soul energy.

These, the Akashic calls “non-physical races”.

The second are souls who have a physical form and a physical density but exist in a state that is very much lighter in density than we humans do. These, the Akashic calls “semi-physical” races. We would call them “aliens” or Non Terrestrial Biological Entities.

All of these many, many billions of souls populate our Universe in order to find an answer to the Creator’s question.

The first free-acting and free-thinking souls Created for this Universe were the non-physical races. Their Creation took place about 100 million years ago.

Following their Creation, these non-physical races set about exploring all of the possibilities that our Universe has to offer. However, by after about 40 million years of their existence, they realised that they had limitations and could not provide the Creator with a full answer. Their assessment of the problem led to a fundamental re-think of the purpose of this Universe and its direction was altered.

To fulfil this new criteria, two major developments took place about 60 million years ago; both of these developments ultimately led to the Creation of the semi- physical races and the Creation of Earth.

The Development of Life on Earth

The limitations of the non-physical races were that they could not fully interact with their environment. They could travel anywhere, without ships, and they could experience everything, on a purely energetic level, but they could not interact with anything. In order to overcome this limitation, the semi- physical races were Created about 30 million years ago.

Hand in hand with the Creation of the semi- physical races, it was agreed, collectively by all of the souls connected with this Universe, that beings who lived a more full “physical” existence were required to provide the Creator with a full answer to It’s question.

To fulfil this requirement, our solar system came into being (about 40 million years ago) which was charged with the task of developing a fully functioning “physical” body into which the souls of members of the non-physical races would fit in order for them to gain greater experience of the Universal potential.

The result of all of this development work led to the creation of homo sapien sapien, in other words, humans, about 85,000 years ago on Atlantis.

All of these new developments led to a total re- think of the way in which this Universe works and functions. With the successful development of humans on Earth, we took over the responsibility of finding the answer to the Creator’s original question.

In other words, the events and developments on Earth determined the outcome of the search for answers within this Universe.

Multidimensionality

We inhabit a Universe that is comprised of energy. The source of this energy is the “soul” from which this Universe is comprised. In other words everything that exists is a consciousness, a soul, and it is the energies with which the soul is Created that provide all of the needs of our Universe.

In scientific terms, this “soul” energy is observed and measured in terms of being electro-magnetic. Gravity does not hold this Universe together. Dark Energy and Dark Matter do not hold this Universe together. Consciousness, soul, holds this Universe together.

In order to understand this, we need to explain a little about the nature of the energies contained within “a soul”. We are used to measuring energy in terms of KW’s or Joules; these are a measure of the energy potential contained within some kind of action taken. This can be the energy required to do a job or the energy produced as that job is carried out. But there is another way of measuring energy and that is in dimensions.

If you think of a radio dial, it is divided into “stations” with each station having a particular frequency. A dimension can be thought of as being similar to a radio dial in that a dimension, in energy terms, is a marker point along the whole range of energy frequencies that demarcates one group of energy frequencies from another. So a dimension is literally a measure of energy frequencies. The energies contained within a dimension are a collection of frequencies that are lower than the frequencies contained within the next, higher, dimension.

To give some idea of the immensity of the energies contained within this Universe, the Akashic records that it contains the energy potential of 39 to the power of 39 dimensions – that is the number 39 followed by thirty nine zeros. That is the amount of energy made available to us by the Creationery source. When it comes to individual souls, the energy potential that each contains can also be measured in dimensions. As far as humans are concerned, our souls contain something in the region of 50 dimensions within the total soul. This total energy potential is divided between the Higher Self, the higher, non-physical aspects of the soul, and the Physical Self, the amount of soul contained within the physical body.

The author is a psychic surgeon who has the ability to “read” energy frequencies, whether those energies are within the body or in the world around us. Over the thirty years that the author has been working in this way, he has consistently found that everybody contains roughly the amount of energy and dimensions.

As stated above, the whole soul contains about 50 dimensions. However, the soul is divided between the higher self and the physical self. This division is along the lines of 75 per cent of the total soul is contained within the higher self and 25 per cent within the physical self. In other words, three quarters in the higher self and one quarter in the physical self, with the physical self containing roughly 12 dimensions.

Although we usually divide the soul into these percentages, it can also be further divided. In order to live a human lifetime, the minimum “quantity” of the soul needed can be as little as 10 per cent (one tenth).

For the past seven thousand years, we on Earth, have been exploring life on Earth as part of an investigation known as “The Human Plan” (see the author’s books for full details of this plan).

Essentially, The Human Plan came about because we had difficulties living the kind of life that we should have been living on Earth. At the time of Atlantis, we had the whole of the soul within the physical body. However, we began to lose our ability to maintain this whole soul/body state and we realised that the problem was to do with the Earth’s base note energy frequency being too low to maintain the whole of the soul within a human physical body.

7,000 years ago, we formulated The Human Plan in order to discover what the Earth’s base note energy frequency needed to be raised to in order for us to reintegrate the whole of the soul back into the human body. In other words, instead of having only between 10 per cent and 25 per cent of the total soul in the body, the body would be able to contain and maintain 100 per cent of the soul.

In order to investigate what the Earth’s base note frequency needed to be raised to, we decided to live a series of lifetimes (reincarnation) experiencing everything that it was possible to experience whilst we lived within a physical body on Earth.

In order to maximise our abilities to experience, some people decided to further divide the soul in order that two, or more physical lifetimes could be lived at the same time.

The Akashic records that this further sub- division of the soul is called multi- dimensionality. The way in which it worked was this:

In order to live a human lifetime, the physical body only needed to contain a minimum of 10 per cent of the total soul. This meant that the higher self could further divide itself into human lifetime-sized “pieces”. In theory, the higher self could divide itself into ten separate lives all being lived at the same time. This total division of the higher self did not occur in practice but many souls divided themselves into living three separate but concurrent lifetimes. By dividing the soul in this way, it was hoped that we could experience life on Earth in such a way as to bring The Human Plan to an early conclusion.

There were many complicating factors involved with human life on Earth and so we did not manage to complete The Human Plan as quickly as hoped. The reasons for these complications are outside the scope of this essay and are covered by the author’s books on the subject.

However, The Human Plan is now coming to its completion. When we embarked on The Human Plan, we, and the Earth agreed on a 7,000 year time-span and this time-span reaches its end date at the end of 2011/2012.

As we arrive at our point of completion, we are poised to reintegrate the whole of the soul back into the body and remain on Earth. In other words, we are completing this process of human development on the Earth Herself; we do not need to leave the planet as numerous channelled messages insist (see below). What would be the point of spending the last 7,000 years learning how to live on Earth as a true “Human Being” but then have to leave the planet in order to complete the process? If this were true there would not have been any point in beginning The Human Plan at all.

As we have arrived at these “final times”, the soul has no need to be further divided and so the higher self has chosen a body into which it will fully merge.
This process involves the removal of the multi- dimensional aspects from the body that has been built by the higher self and the percentage aspect of the soul that inhabited that body re-merges with the higher self. This means that the body that that aspect of the higher self built for itself has to die.

This drawing together of the soul’s multi- dimensional aspects is accounting for a high percentage of deaths that are currently occurring.

In “official” terms, we have a growing global population but this is not true. The official population web site shows a counter which rises by the count of one, approximately every second, reflecting an assumed birth rate. What these official counters do not show is the death rate. In other words, no matter how many people die, globally, their deaths are not counted in the official figures.

According to the Akashic, our population peaked at 7,376,000,000 (7.4 billion) in 1996 and is currently, mid 2011, down to about 3,800,000,000 (3.8 billion) – the official figures show that we are currently heading towards the 7 billion mark.

The figures in the Akashic are made up of both multi-dimensional deaths as well the deaths of those who have decided, for whatever reason, not to take part in the process of soul reintegration.

Human Soul-Origins

There have been three distinct stages to the development of free-moving life within our Universe. The non-physical races were Created about 100 million years ago, our solar system came into being about 40 million years ago and the semi- physical races were Created about 30 million years ago.

There are no differences between these souls, all are Created equal. In order for human life to develop on Earth, the souls who came here to take part in the experiment of physical life are primarily those of the non-physical races. In other words, 99.9 per cent of the souls who inhabit human bodies were the first souls Created to inhabit this Universe but, because of their limitations in their ability to experience, they chose to come to Earth and take on physical bodies.

The other 0.001 per cent of the human population are souls made up from the semi- physical races.

Note: both soul origins are equally valid and of equal importance. As human beings, those same equalities apply – no one is greater or lesser than another; just different.

To summarise: All life within this Universe was Created to find an answer to the Creator’s question of “What if...?” Each stage of Creation and development led on to the next stage until we arrive at the Earth and the life that She supports. The potential and possibilities that life at the physical energy patterns that we exist at were seen as a means by which all of the questions implicit within the Creator’s “What if..?” could be answered and so life on Earth became crucial to the existence of the Universe. By developing, and working through, The Human Plan we have answered virtually all of the Creator’s questions. However, one question remains: Is Human life possible? By Human life, the Akashic means the existence of a fully physical being that is capable of containing the whole of the soul. We achieved this goal on Atlantis but then lost it. Since then, the Earth has considered us to be “sub-human”. As we approach the end of 2011/2012, it looks as though we will achieve full Human status again. Once we have completed our process of soul reintegration, the Universe will take on a new lease of life and all things become possible. There is, now, no possibility of failing to complete The Human Plan, it is only a question of how many will achieve soul reintegration.

The Universal Time-line

TO return to our theme of time-lines.

When we encounter a problem, and what is needed to solve that problem, what we end up with is a series of steps, taken in sequence which will, hopefully, lead to a successful conclusion.

But, in order for this problem to be solved, each step must follow on from another in a sequence of steps and a time-line is created. In other words, each step of our problem solving follows on from the previous step in a sequence that provides us with the answer to the problem.

This sequence of steps follows a time-line to its conclusion. Only one time-line is generated.

If we return to the quantum physicists’ concept of multiple universes and multiple time-lines, we can begin to see that this concept cannot answer our basic questions.

Solving a problem is achieved by living through, or experiencing, what has gone before. By taking each step necessary, we add to our sum of knowledge and can arrive at the solution.

If it were the case that every option we considered created a new set of problems then we would never end up with the solution but a multitude of new problems and we would rapidly deplete the resources of the Universe. This is what the theory of multiple time-lines does – it creates an infinite number of new problems whilst never answering the original question.

Given that the purpose of our Universe is to answer the original question, then generating an infinite number of alternate universes and alternate time-lines would not help. It would also make our, human, existence meaningless and pointless.

Our, human, lives do have purpose and that purpose has only come about because of what has gone before. In other words, previous attempts at finding an answer to the Creator’s question concluded that human life was necessary and was the only potential way of finding suitable solutions.

Complications

In recent years, we have seen an inordinate rise in channelled communications. The Akashic records that over the last 50 years 90 per cent of all of these messages have originated from, or have been influenced by, one source. This source is one of the semi-physical races.

The story behind these channelled messages is very long and complicated and has been covered in several of the author’s books, all we have space for here is a very brief summary.

Everywhere you go throughout our Universe, you will find life. Most of the non-physical and semi-physical races have spread out throughout the Universe and live on many planets.

One of the semi-physical races is different in that it has always chosen to remain within their own galaxy of origin; that is, until comparatively recently.

The name of this race is the Velon although they rarely call themselves by that name.

On Earth, we generally do not call ourselves “Earthlings” but prefer to call ourselves Australian, French or German etc. Or we might choose to call ourselves Jewish, Muslim or Zen Buddhist etc. It is the same with the Velon. They divided themselves up into six races that seem to be based on both religious and ethnic divisions. These six races are: Annunaki, Hathor, Mila, Oa, Johnaan and Jjundaa.

An event occurred, about 1,000 Earth years ago, just outside of their home galaxy, which led them to take the view that they were “god’s chosen people” who should live on “god’s chosen planet”, namely Earth.

Ever since this point of revelation, the Velon have been attempting to convince the inhabitants of Earth that we must leave the planet in order to “ascend to a 5th dimension” where we will achieve our “enlightenment”. The main method of persuasion adopted by the Velon races has been by channelled messages. To try to make their messages more believable, they have adopted a huge number of disguises and claimed, in these channelled messages, to be from various origins and formed numerous committees and organisations that function on a galactic level. These disguises include:

The Council of Nine, the Galactic Council, the Galactic Federation, The Great White Brotherhood, Ascended Masters and Ashtar Command.

They have also called themselves Ascended Sirians, Blond Nordic Humanoids, Abenaki, Alpha Draconians, Dracos, Orions, Elohim, Reptilians, Santinians, Venusians, Zetas and many, many others.

Other disguises include: Metatron, Sananda, Mary Magdalene, The Christ Consciousness, Saint Germaine as well as many hundreds of Arch-Angels and Angels. The whole plethora of messages purportedly received from Angels, in the past number of years, have all arisen from Velon sources. Except for the types of messages about finding parking spaces: these are from your higher self.

All of these channelled messages are an attempt to make us believe that we must leave the Earth if we are to stand any chance of increasing our levels of consciousness and that the Velon are here to take us off planet to an unspecified destination where we will “Ascend to a 5th dimension” and where the Earth will “Ascend” with us.

As part of these deliberately misleading messages, they have also raised the concept of alternate time-lines. It is from these channelled messages that most peoples’ confusion about time-lines has arisen.

As stated above, there is only one time-line that applies to this Universe there are no others.

The Velon did attempt to build an alternate time-line, in order to cause us further confusion, but this attempt was stopped by those who guard our Earth. This Velon time- line was an attempt to by-pass the 2011/2012 end date.

When questions about alternate time-lines arise, it is from these channelled sources that this disinformation has arisen.

Given the total saturation of channelled messages that the Velon have generated, there is only one safe source of information and that is from your own higher self. As we progress through our path to consciousness reintegration, we all become closer to our higher selves and finding honest answers to our questions becomes easier.

Do not be fooled by channelled messages as they will lead into the hands of the Velon and prevent you from making your own completions.

Conclusions

Our Universe was Created about fourteen and a half biillion years ago. It was Created in order to answer a question asked by the Creator. That question was: “What would happen if...?” and the “if” in the question was freedom of choice.

Every soul within this Universe has the inherent right to freely choose their actions and their own state of being. The only choice we cannot make is to choose to act in such a way as to remove another soul’s right to choose their own actions. This “universal law” has been broken by the Velon race and the Creator is currently in the process of removing them from this Universe.

In the 14.5 billion years of our Universe’s history, we have attempted to answer the Creator’s question by experiencing everything that this Universe has to offer. By a process of trial and error, we have explored all aspects of life. The result of those explorations was the formation of the Earth and humanity as a means of finding an answer to the original question.

This lengthy investigation has followed a sequence of events, with each sequence leading on to another form of investigation. Each sequence of events could only occur because we learned lessons from the previous sequence and this has generated a single time-line – a beginning and an end.



Once we have completed our soul re-integrations, we will then move on to explore other answers and those too will be arrived at on Earth.

Our future is limitless - if that is what we choose.

[Carmody]

It is all tied to complementary resonance structure of atomic systems, ie, the table of elements. That, tied to Planck length (etc), and how it involves this place. How these resonance integrations of finite yet near infinite potential, how they can fit together and flow.

The systems is statistically predictable, but absolutely UN-predictable. It is a system of information, molded by a rider of consciousness, as a protrusion into this place, in the form of unidirectional observation. Unidirectional due to the fact that it has a resonance coupled zone that is of statistical unidirectionality. A dimensional resonance bubble, if you will.

The system is malleable, in the minute and the gross, but has this overall unidirecitonality, that is what makes it be.

The unidirectional pressure or dimensional bubble is the non-equality of matter vs antimatter that the physicists scratch their heads over. That unidirectional aspect... IS what IS. It is our basis of reality and time-space, etc. all aspects of our existence, which is as point of observation in itself of itself, the reason there as alight speed limit as that is connected to remaining the bubble frameworks of statistical averaging.

If we go to the quantum levels, we get into individual manipulations, both subtle and gross, and can skip out of the averaging and move to complex dimensional systems.

Simple enough.

Reality is a mass aggregate statistical function, it is not absolute. Knowing this is what then makes it changeable, malleable and then..one can transcend it. However, a problem exists and that is the ego-body is a component of this space, as reflection (as is the light speed limit), so to understand it thoroughly (to initiate and go through the process) is to bring intense fear to the ego body as it begins to realize it is based on nothing but a offset condition of an average in potential.

Timelines are resonance potential zones, connected to one another via the shifting sands of potential. Complementary resonances that come and go, and always flow.

[ghostrider]

I view the people in the matrix , the ones still asleep , on one timeline ... those awake or starting to wake , I view on another timeline ... when a persons mind is still in the matrix , there are things right in front of their face they just plain cannot see ... this paradox affects their thinking and choices , and they don't even know much less understand it ... they just feel something is wrong with the world , and no matter what they do they can't shake that feeling ... for what it's worth , the Earth is speeding up , and time is out of kilter , you'll feel like you lost a day or a whole week ... the magnetic waves of Earth are increasing , pulling NEO's closer , satellites are colliding , etc ... we are in for tough times ... gotta go be back later ...

[WhiteLove]

The channeled ET Bashar is in my understanding presenting an idea of a concept he calls - the isolation field effect, it is this effect that makes a UFO through an electromagnetic toroid, relocate through realities by using the combination of frequency and power level. Although a human being is not a UFO, many theories point towards humans being enveloped inside an electromagnetic field. I theorize that maybe the power level of this electromagnetic field - collectively - in conjunction with the frequency, can help to determine the most probable timeline. And not only that, but in case you can go to the non-physical reality then from there you might have a different level of freedom in impacting what's going to happen. In the RA material the realities are called space-time and time-space.

[Lancet]

Thanks for the replies Tesla, Herbert, Carmody, White Love and Ghost Rider. I have much information to internalize. I did expect to get a scientific based answers, as opposed to just personal opinions. Both are fine, actually great! It is just that time is a quantity that we are all familiar with, and some people give a qualitative dimension as well. In some respects it has both a qualitative and quantitative aspect.

I, speaking for myself, will surmise that I can only be aware of 1 timeline in my human 3D self on earth and this universe. It may be possible that multiple timelines and realities exist, but I have trouble conceptualizing how a particle, atom or matter can vibrate in so many planes of existence to give rise to multiple dimensions. I agree with Herbert that it is implausible that we create multiple dimensions at each moment.. how do we energetically account for that?

Or do we entertain the possibility of timelines being like lanes on a highway, and we choose which lane we want to be in. the assumption is that mass aggregate permutation of possibilities have given rise to several specific outcomes, and the individual actors (ie us) can make only minuscule variations (because of low power of probability) to the final outcome. It may look very much like a median or bimodal or trimodal distribution curve, etc.

I ask all these questions because I see and read and hear the word timelines used quite often in relation to the present and future, and it intrigues me as to why a person would say that. What belief system or understanding or context is being used there? The funny thing is that we do nod in agreement sometimes..or most times.

thanks again

[Meggings]

This discussion of time and dimensions as they relate to human beings has just been posted: http://tomkenyon.com/the-fifth-perspective-transcending-space-and-time

[triquetra]

I, speaking for myself, will surmise that I can only be aware of 1 timeline in my human 3D self on earth and this universe. It may be possible that multiple timelines and realities exist, but I have trouble conceptualizing how a particle, atom or matter can vibrate in so many planes of existence to give rise to multiple dimensions. I agree with Herbert that it is implausible that we create multiple dimensions at each moment.. how do we energetically account for that?


To start, it couldn't hurt to get an overview of set theory. This fellow:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Cantor
was the first to try and grapple with whether it could be proven that there are different magnitudes of infinity. It turns out there was. He did prove it, but the deeper he went, the more mad he became. This seemed to happen to quite a few of the furthest reachers of the late 19th and early 20th century.

By understanding that you could actually hold all of the orders of magnitudes of infinity in a set, you could then try to imagine that the largest of this set is actually the set itself, counted together: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_Infinite

How do we make sense out of this in more general terms, like with a metaphor or simile?

Try this: You interacting with your "interface" to your set of infinite parallel universes. As you move through various minor and major choice points, you navigate these parallel universes based on what you decide. You always make at least a minor jump between these universes each time you fall asleep and wake up. You can try to hang on to existence in a same universe by not falling asleep and not making any decisions (the decisions you make between sleeps will be accumulated to calculate the jump you will make when you sleep), but even the decision to not make any decisions is a decision, and so you will eventually fall asleep and will eventually do the jump, no matter what you do.

So then, everyone is doing this same thing, each with their own interface to their own set of infinite parallel universes.

But how do we interact if we are each navigating our own sets of infinite parallel universes?

Easy. The answer is that there are transfinitely many interfaces between all of the sets of infinite parallel universes as well.

The simulation matrix only has to calculate the dynamics of interfacing of realities for your own plus that of whichever conscious entities you are interfacing with at a given moment.

This is why things will not exist in your universe when they are not observed, but they will begin to exist the moment you begin to observe them.

Large groups of people all interfacing their realities together makes more work for the simulation matrix, and it has greater ramifications because cascades of influential changes based on the outcomes of those interactions will ripple through the trees of interfaces of all the participants.

How does this work in conjunction with time?

Also not so complicated - the future and past are both alike the tributaries of rivers, or the network of branches of a tree. You need to combine sense with the sense of fractal zoom, and of growth.

The future is a bit easier to understand. Imagine you have this network of possible futures laid out, but your present moment is just a single branch. Looking out into the future by even a very small unit of time, the possibilities begin to branch out more and more the further you look ahead. Major choice points represent thicker branches.

But as you move forward in time, you also zoom in on the branches you take, so they are always as thick as the trunk (they become the new trunk). This extends onwards indefinitely just like a fractal set (hence how time bridges the first 3 dimensions with the 5th dimension (the fractal zoom dimension).

Now, sometimes (like in our upcoming years), it becomes especially easy to see how the past has a similar structure but one that is less obvious to future-focused humans.

It can often come to be that the flow of time changes in response to changes from the control dimension (the fractal zoom dimension), and the first signs of this are temporal anomalies where the future in some way has a cause-effect relationship with the past (a future cause leads to a past result).

While scientists used to think this was impossible, quantum mechanics proved this to be possible some time ago).

Now in coming years we will begin to see just how far this principle can be extended, until we reach a point where the future is quite severely influencing the present (and so, the eventual past), in a way that shows that the past also has tree-like properties.

Different future event combinations will map out to different probable pasts, and the future path chosen will back-propagate to lead to a specific outcome for the present (and so the eventual past).

Finally, there is a unifying element to all this, which is the template for the shared experience we all make a mutual contractual agreement to participate in (through soul choice).

Again, this aspect of reality is currently foggy but will become clear to many people in upcoming years due to an increased understanding of just how far collective consciousnesses can be taken.

Increases in collective consciousness have an effect of collapsing sets of individual, infinite parallel realities into a reduced set. When there is an extremely high level of consensus, then the choice points of participants in the collective consciousness fall into synchronization, and the variety of possible outcomes for all participants begins to be reduced.

You can probably imagine how, if this notion was taken to the extreme, it would possibly lead to the undesirable effect of a lack of variety of possibility in the timeline, things might become static and predictable if everyone had perfect consensus on choice points.

But the formation of collective consciousness is also an instinctive reaction to artificial separation of consciousnesses which are by natural design geared towards a kind of hybrid individual/collective experience (this is the path the natural timeline of earth consistently gravitates towards).

However in this civilization, there has been extensive manipulation ongoing in order to minimize the likelihood of the formation of significant collective consciousnesses across the human population, and to maximize the rigidity of the status quo to celebrate individual and discrete consciousness, in other words to lure the average human into celebrating the ego and the capabilities a single individual can accomplish on their own.

What many have not realized (aside from not realizing that this manipulation has been ongoing) is that a far greater soul satisfaction for a being biologically geared towards a hybrid experience is to not only fully realize their individual capabilities, but more importantly to use those found abilities towards part of a greater good by combining talents in various ways.

We have never really done more than scratch the surface in this regard, although had the 20th century gone very differently, it would all be extremely evident by now (in a very now-distant parallel reality, but this is one we can retrack the future back towards and originally converge to anyways).

So now we will begin to have this outpouring of energetic recompensation, where all the people feeling stifled by previous oppression will begin to reclaim their right to unify.

I know it is hard to imagine that this is possible, but the things to come that will make things even worse than they are now, will be the catalyst.

Unfortunately the ideal outcome is that things get worse enough to catalyze people, but not so much worse that we lose our ability to make a difference through unification.

That is the current target for the ongoing influencing effort being coordinated by participants usually much quieter than I am being right now, worldwide.

It's going to get much much better within a few short years, but no guarantees for this year or next, beyond that we will finally at least be able to see the light ahead.



Or do we entertain the possibility of timelines being like lanes on a highway, and we choose which lane we want to be in. the assumption is that mass aggregate permutation of possibilities have given rise to several specific outcomes, and the individual actors (ie us) can make only minuscule variations (because of low power of probability) to the final outcome. It may look very much like a median or bimodal or trimodal distribution curve, etc.


Oh, quite to the contrary, we can make extremely significant variations to the outcome, even individually. We each have our own capacitance threshold for energetic discharge. You can read this easily with biofeedback equipment. Someone could be capable of being extremely relaxed, and yet hold an energetic charge inside them, that if released, could have any number of severe consequences, either positive or negative.

Also, the intent of an individual, in connection with various other factors, can result in a capacity to influence reality in a direct manner. This can often be amplified by having groups of similarly high-capacitance individuals converging their energetic potential towards a single aim (a group influencing session), but what one person can do if properly trained and in good condition is already quite significant.

They may even have to impair their condition to prevent risk of an unintended outburst of their energy having an undesirable or unfortunate result.

But by whatever means, an individual fully capable and fully in control can make extensive influential changes first to their own path through the infinite possible realities for their interface, but also for many others they interface with, and so in turn the collective experience is affected to some degree as well.

There have been large groups of meditation experts who have mainly concentrated their energy towards keeping the earth reasonably on track against great oppression and desire by other entities to push it off track as far as possible (but not too far, just to the brink).

They are the ones we will need to be thankful towards when we take the next steps that they cannot do for us in the months/years to come.



I ask all these questions because I see and read and hear the word timelines used quite often in relation to the present and future, and it intrigues me as to why a person would say that. What belief system or understanding or context is being used there? The funny thing is that we do nod in agreement sometimes..or most times.


You noticed that you don't always control your nods directly. The secrets of rotation and angular momentum are quite extensive given the amount of hidden knowledge for this earth relating to waveform properties. It is unfair to have this be the state of the reality.

Nodding (or the "pitch rotation") is a way of making an affirmative informational link between interfaces, something that may be a "no-brainer" (when you would agree with something wholeheartedly even at the conscious level), but may also be more mysterious (if your subconscious i.e. higher self decides to override your conscious and "agree" on your behalf).

It does this because this rotation sets up the informational transfer by assisting in the quantum entanglement process between neurons (this is how information is actually transferred, things like verbal communication are merely protocols that set up the information transfer session, i.e what is "between the lines").

Similarly the head shaking rotation is a way of preventing the informational exchange, it blocks the quantum entanglement between neurons so the data is not transferred over the interface.

The third and final rotation is more of a mixed bag - tilting the head side to side directs the information to a different location - calculation rather than storage. You do this when you want to consider the information at that moment, neither rejecting it nor storing it without further consideration.

Anyway, I digress - timelines are a very real aspect of both the future and present-becoming-past, no halfway about it. But since people remain most comfortable living the illusion of a collective shared experience (even as we continue to be blocked from reaching even partial collective consciousness, which is a terribly ironic state for a reality), that is what all of the manifested aspects of our reality end up taking on the appearance of.

The best way to get a more balanced perspective on reality, is to explore the possibility of individually experienced realities that interface with one another, as explained above (meditation is best for this), and simultaneously to explore the notion of collective consciousness based around mutual agreement for increasingly large areas of consideration. A good example of a very large target is a model of planetary sustainability.

We *should* be in collective agreement about it, but many remain not (preferring a more short-sighted approach).

What would a break-off collective consciousness based around this shared model of sustainability look like. What if it were all geographically located in a discrete part of the planet? What if it weren't, and increasingly large portions of major cities began to insist that we are far enough towards globalization that we should easily be able to coordinate this kind of a transition towards true sustainability, even if we have to battle it out one city at a time? (and you know if the big cities do it, the rest of the world will follow suit - it's an issue that mainly has to do with the priorities people living in big cities have).

[Selene]

Well, triquetra, the thanks button doesn't even count here.

You've written what many thinkers, philosophers and theoretical physicists could only hope to express.

Wow. Simply wow.

Yours is one post for the ages. A manifesto. A Nobel document.

My thanks are of hardly any consequence. You've solved it, my friend.

Cheers and respect,

Selene

[Lancet]

Hi all

I saw this on youtube. Dolores Canon on her view on timelines. Seems to coincicide with what Bashar (Darryl Anka) is saying.

https://youtu.be/QdVMemHnv-U

[Innocent Warrior]

I know it is hard to imagine that this is possible, but the things to come that will make things even worse than they are now, will be the catalyst.

I understand this process and agree but propose that it's possible to signicificantly reduce the severity of the catalyst, or not, and instead, completely change the nature of it.

We don't need an agreement from the conscious physical mind level, neither individually or collectively, to alter belief systems and, in turn, the frequency of the manifested physical reality. it doesn't even need to be aware of it. We need permission from the higher mind or it won't be successful, but as long as we have a physical interface, there are ways to profoundly affect events.

Just one example, I recently attended a Psych-k workshop and was instructed on how to facilitate others in overwriting negative beliefs with new ones, the whole process takes a couple of minutes. All those years of downloads from parents, televison, school and religion - overwritten in minutes. There are certain qualities a belief must have, to be successfully written in the subconscious, but they can also be really broad, overwriting a number of existing beliefs.

Also, this is much more efficient way than the cabal's methods, because it works with higher intelligence, rather than through the conscious physcial mind, with repitition. The beauty of it is, the cabal is denied access by the nature of the beliefs which serve them. The higher mind will not grant them permission to overwrite beliefs, from that level.

The people at the workshop who were being balanced with new beliefs were doing it themselves, and chose their belief statements, however, permission from the conscious physical mind is not necessary, the higher mind makes the call.

I'm not suggesting we go about exploring ways to change others' belief systems, without the awareness of their conscious physical mind btw. I'm suggesting that the belief that we need a consensus or agreement between conscious physical minds, to achieve a desired outcome, is a limiting one. It will manifest as this but it won't come from this. Everything can change in a moment, such as the nature of a catalyst, seemingly out of nowhere, despite the previously established momentum in another direction.

I'd greatly appreciate your thoughts on this triquetra but don't want to take this thread off topic, feel free to direct me to one of your threads, if you choose to share your thoughts on this with me.

EDIT: Triquetra, save your time, I had a realisation tonight that left me with a clear view of what I was trying to see. Thanks for a great post btw.

[looking-glass]

Hi all,
[snippity]
When we have a society or collective consciousness, how do we create our realities with respect to each other? We have similar realities but not exact realities? How do these elements interplay?
[snip]
Thanks for your time, and kind comments if you so wish to comment.

I am always learning!!

Hi,

really interesting question...

My idea goes along the following 'lines'; we are 'in' a construct made by a demigod. It laid out the fabric of matter.

But we are 'higher' albeit in amnesia. But we are creator godlings in amnesia. So if we are in a close group we create a shared reality to some extent within this 'test tube'. Our dimished powers magnify when together - thus in a way creating our own 'timeline' that is somewhat 'protected' from others intent or the original demigods 'matrix'.

If we fully knew this we could 'blast' out of 'here'.


But there are other 'collectives' of demigod constructions and other collectives of mis-guided 'godlings' that have the right under free will to construct their 'timelines'.

Supposing the idea of 'timelines', it seems akin to gravity. The more connected you are, the more mass you have to a certain situation, so the harder to change. Unless you have the majority and hence the gravity and then your collective can change the timeline.

Or if you are alone, and low mass, you can slip stream timelines like a leaf on the wind.

regards

[Meggings]

Removed by author.

[looking-glass]

Oh my goodness! You should be working for Bethesda Softworks (got a time machine? haha) -- here is a bit of the lore from one of their earlier games:


A Dragon Break is a phenomenon where linear time is broken, and becomes non-linear. The "Dragon" refers to Akatosh, the Dragon God of Time. A Dragon Break not only precedes significant changes in Tamriel, but challenges mortal comprehension. It is a re-alignment of time and space in response to an event which makes the normal continuity of reality impossible. The chaos which ensues is a refrain of the chaos of the Dawn Era. The area that is noticeably affected, and length of the interval measured in the areas not apparently affected, varies with each Dragon Break. Historically, the cause is often attributed to mortals manipulating divine matters.

They say 200 Y E A R S of "man hours" of development went into the making of the game Morrowind alone.
One of its main features, rather unavoidable in the Main Quest line in fact, was the element of Time and the intended manipulation of Time/Timespace/The SPheres by gods and mortals alike.

There were many mysterious texts and images scattered throughout Tamriel,
chiefly relating to the disappearance of the Dwarves (d'oh, they messed with time!),
and to Time itself, (i.e. the Egg of Time) and of course the Gods and their interactions with mortals who mastered the concept of spacetime (Azura and the Box)...

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragon_Break

"The egg of time"
http://images.uesp.net/e/eb/MW-book-Egg_Of_Time_p3.jpg



http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Azura_and_the_Box

(read that story, it's a nail biter!)




Your thread is really thought provoking... I hope more people contribute :)

The Elder scrolls, thanks for extra info Tesla' what an amazing story/ movie where they made us the main actor. Often wondered at the names of the Daedric ruins, then discovered they are ancient East/ Central Asian real temples or sites.

Then other name drops like the Nagas in the MMORPG Guild Wars.

Someone is doing serious historical / mythological research for some 'games'.

regards

[triquetra]

I know it is hard to imagine that this is possible, but the things to come that will make things even worse than they are now, will be the catalyst.

I understand this process and agree but propose that it's possible to completely change the nature of the catalyst.

We don't need an agreement from the conscious physical mind level, neither individually or collectively, to alter belief systems and, in turn, the frequency of the manifested physical reality. it doesn't even need to be aware of it. We need permission from the higher mind or it won't be successful, but as long as we have a physical interface, there are ways to profoundly affect events.

I was instructed on how to facilitate others in overwriting negative beliefs with new ones, the whole process takes a couple of minutes.


Indeed. You have just described one of the systems that I trained in which I am eternally grateful for.

It is important to try and pull oneself out of the illusory mode of reality to the point where one realizes that by and large we are simply choosing (whether subconsciously from the soul level, or consciously one we destroy the subconscious-conscious barrier) to assume roles in order to manifest reality by allowing exchange of information to occur.

And so one may say something before subconscious-conscious merge-state because they consciously believe it, but at the same time they say something because subconsciously they feel that by saying it, they will assume a role that will be a counterpoint to the role of another involved in the exchange of information, and this will fuse the channels of information to provide a new strand of information that is the product of the two original sources.

This is exactly what we've done here - I've assumed a role of making a statement of supposed "belief" that a catalyst which would make things worse would eventually facilitate the shift in the timeline which would make things better. You've counterpointed to indicate (especially in my editing of your original post - no words changed!) that any equally energetic catalyst could serve equally well in the place.

In so doing you have perhaps unintentionally uncovered my entire platform of proposition to all those most actively influencing reality in such a way that allows more easy a catalyst of one kind or another.

The nature of this energetic debate behind the scenes of reality (but which in turn manifests the reality we all experience moments after reality is programmed to render in the way that it does) is best explained in terms of simple wave physics.

There is a deeply programmed belief that dissonance is a catalyst for consonance. If you want a greater stability in the future, you go and create an instability in the present which propagates the new stability afterward. This is a basic principle apparent in the way music has been written for a very long time.

However this is entirely at odds with the kinds of signal theory that go into the design and construction of, say, a harmonic lattice.

The theory for lattice construction is quite different. There is no dissonant element needed. The entire platform is created off building more and more off of consonant constructs, and in fact in this case the real dissonant element is the lack of information present in order to do this immediately.

This is fully in line with 4th Way thought patterns. Again, you do not choose a side (The 1st Way), or the other (The 2nd Way) (i.e. the light side or the dark side). This is the imposition of 2D mental constructs (duality constructs) which anchors the mindset to 3D reality. Stay anchored and it is impossible to evolve beyond 3D reality.

You also do not choose the in-between, or choose not to choose (The 3rd Way). Those in turns are the re-directs, the loopholes back into the 3D system. These kinds of choices are what get you trapped between 3D and 4D.

The way out is the 4th Way, which is an axiomatically different way of thinking.

There is no representation of this way of thinking in media whatsoever, it is meant to be as obfuscated as possible so that no matter what humans do, they do not escape.

The key, Innocent Warrior, is having a receptive audience when presenting new information, in a way that allows for new quantum entanglements to form and allow for the exchange of previously unexchangable information to occur.

That is what I am trying to do here on Avalon as a precursor to building the harmonic lattices.

This is a necessary first step because it plants the seeds to allow for the kinds of psychological / mental / neurological escape mechanisms to grow in the minds of humans who have had enough of this trap, so that we can actually cooperate well enough to activate the harmonic lattices and move on.

This may be why I am certainly in no rush, as you can tell from by very infrequent initial participation levels, perhaps too little to even sustain any kind of identity.

However that is meant to be only a temporary initial phase - once it is possible to communicate the kinds of channels of information that allow receivers to see through windows out of the illusory layer of reality in a way that is more vivid than any other means previously accessible to them, it is time to take the next step.

To the ones always watching here - there is absolutely no reason we should not be allowed the means and the freedom to do this. There are outcomes that are vastly more desirable for all entities involved that you just cannot see. I am not asking for much here. Just the chance to present the information and allow people to decide for themselves.

[ulli]

It has become simpler for this generation of today. Although for a while I thought they had to pass through all the earlier stages of transformation, one by one.
But something has shifted, and there is an outpouring of magical energies occurring...at least for some who have the perception. Since the year 2000 it has become very apparent to me.
Consciously choosing our future and then living as if it had already arrived is key.
My wonderful helpers along the path to whom I am eternally grateful: Gurdjieff/Ouspensky (1979), Baha'u'llah (1983), Wingmakers (2000), with some in between sprinkling of Krishnamurti.
All of these are now obsolete, if someone simply chooses to step into a consciousness of happiness, prosperity, and love.

"O SON OF LOVE! Thou art but one step away from the glorious heights above and from the celestial tree of love. Take thou one pace and with the next advance into the immortal realm and enter the pavilion of eternity. Give ear then to that which hath been revealed by the pen of glory."~Baha'u'llah

[Innocent Warrior]

I know it is hard to imagine that this is possible, but the things to come that will make things even worse than they are now, will be the catalyst.

I understand this process and agree but propose that it's possible to completely change the nature of the catalyst.

We don't need an agreement from the conscious physical mind level, neither individually or collectively, to alter belief systems and, in turn, the frequency of the manifested physical reality. it doesn't even need to be aware of it. We need permission from the higher mind or it won't be successful, but as long as we have a physical interface, there are ways to profoundly affect events.

I was instructed on how to facilitate others in overwriting negative beliefs with new ones, the whole process takes a couple of minutes.


This is exactly what we've done here - I've assumed a role of making a statement of supposed "belief" that a catalyst which would make things worse would eventually facilitate the shift in the timeline which would make things better. You've counterpointed to indicate (especially in my editing of your original post - no words changed!) that any equally energetic catalyst could serve equally well in the place.

I like the edit. Reducing the severity of the catalyst would make for a more gradual and gentle shift but to change the nature of it is the part that interests me.

In so doing you have perhaps unintentionally uncovered my entire platform of proposition to all those most actively influencing reality in such a way that allows more easy a catalyst of one kind or another.

Interesting. Well, from what I can see, (I don't come to this discussion with the full picture, I'm painting it as I go, at least on the conscious level anyway) those who most actively influence reality are the ones who believe they can.

The key, Innocent Warrior, is having a receptive audience when presenting new information, in a way that allows for new quantum entanglements to form and allow for the exchange of previously unexchangable information to occur.

Continuing on from my previous statement, people who believe they can would be most receptive. Also, perhaps more people would believe they can if they experienced the power of their unobstructed intent. We don't need to be Tibetan monks to do it either, more on that later.

However that is meant to be only a temporary initial phase - once it is possible to communicate the kinds of channels of information that allow receivers to see through windows out of the illusory layer of reality in a way that is more vivid than any other means previously accessible to them, it is time to take the next step.

Wow, I think I see where you're heading here, huge!

To the ones always watching here - there is absolutely no reason we should not be allowed the means and the freedom to do this. There are outcomes that are vastly more desirable for all entities involved that you just cannot see. I am not asking for much here. Just the chance to present the information and allow people to decide for themselves.

So far so good.

I have a few questions now but I haven't been keeping up with your threads, so I'll catch up and pose my questions where appropriate. Thanks for taking the time to reply, appreciate it.

[Carmody]

It is all tied to complementary resonance structure of atomic systems, ie, the table of elements. That, tied to Planck length (etc), and how it involves this place. How these resonance integrations of finite yet near infinite potential, how they can fit together and flow.

The systems is statistically predictable, but absolutely UN-predictable. It is a system of information, molded by a rider of consciousness, as a protrusion into this place, in the form of unidirectional observation. Unidirectional due to the fact that it has a resonance coupled zone that is of statistical unidirectionality. A dimensional resonance bubble, if you will.

The system is malleable, in the minute and the gross, but has this overall unidirecitonality, that is what makes it be.

The unidirectional pressure or dimensional bubble is the non-equality of matter vs antimatter that the physicists scratch their heads over. That unidirectional aspect... IS what IS. It is our basis of reality and time-space, etc. all aspects of our existence, which is as point of observation in itself of itself, the reason there as alight speed limit as that is connected to remaining the bubble frameworks of statistical averaging.

If we go to the quantum levels, we get into individual manipulations, both subtle and gross, and can skip out of the averaging and move to complex dimensional systems.

Simple enough.

Reality is a mass aggregate statistical function, it is not absolute. Knowing this is what then makes it changeable, malleable and then..one can transcend it. However, a problem exists and that is the ego-body is a component of this space, as reflection (as is the light speed limit), so to understand it thoroughly (to initiate and go through the process) is to bring intense fear to the ego body as it begins to realize it is based on nothing but a offset condition of an average in potential.

Timelines are resonance potential zones, connected to one another via the shifting sands of potential. Complementary resonances that come and go, and always flow.

In plain English, projection has the capacity to be the coming of reality, the shifting of timelines. that the conscious and unconscious of the mind are the formation, flow and creation point of reality.

Your entire life is an ILLUSION: New test backs up theory that the world doesn’t exist until we look at it

- Quantum mechanics states reality doesn't exist until it's measured
- This means a particle's past behaviour changes based on what we see
- Experiment using an atom and laser beams has proven this to be true
- How the atom behaved depended on how it was measured at end of test (http://phys.org/news/2015-06-counterintuitive-math-high-impacts.html)

The dominoes falling in this, as a series of eventual logic points......is that you are individually responsible for your life. Irrevocably, in all ways. YOU. Life is literally what you make of it.

Due to the divide between the conscious mind and the unconscious mind, one has to change the unconscious and subconscious parts of existence, like when trying to quit smoking.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~

this also means that the scientific paradigm, is a giant stinking turd. Built to fail from stage one. That factualization a dream that can NEVER happen, as the mutability of reality is exactly as stated in all the tests done on psychic sensitivity. That reality is formed by pressures, tendencies, statistics and opinion, projections, and so on.


That the idea of a fundamental 'law' in science is the biggest pile of horesh!t that can never and has never existed.

That fundamentalists of all kinds ~everywhere~ ..be they scientific, racist, religious, political, fascist....all of them, are absolutely full of steaming piles of crap.

The end of the linear minded dogmatic factualist.

Calvinism, the Romans, the Vatican, the Venetians, the elites, the crown, the bankers, the NWO, etc ...all die the death they so richly deserve.

Their fundamentalism is shown to not exist, whatsoever.

That it ONLY exists in the minds of those they can convince it exists -in. That the reality they push is nothing more than hypnotic trance.

This is why they work through fear, as the fear locks your mind down out of thought... and into instinct (preservation of the avatar as autonomous programming)... and reality is captured and projected out of the other side of your subconscious divide, outside of conscious recognition and outside of conscious control.

That you, yourself, are impetus and life and change and reality ITSELF.

[wolf_rt]

After an absence of a few years, i had actually came here today in order to start a thread on this exact question.

I think triquetra has answered my original question of how personal intention can change your reality, while still allowing others their free will and potential to do the same. At least to a point, i have to admit that some of this is over my head.

the thing that i still wonder is; are there limits to personal vs. collective intent?

The idea that i have at the moment is that the only limits placed on the ability to create a future reality, is your ability to visualise a path to reach that reality. So the advantage of a collective is that each person may fill in gaps in the vision, since it is all but impossible to visualise both a complete end goal, and a path to achieve it alone.

If a vision, and path to achieve it is envisioned with enough clarity, then its outcome is inevitable. At least for the time line the person/s who had the vision are on.

Anything not included in your vision, will be at the mercy of the vision of those who share your timeline.

Am i on the right track here? I would welcome any advice/debate on this subject, to clarify my understanding.

[triquetra]

Sounds like you are retracing the fundamental definition of Remote Influencing, wolf_rt.

There are no limits to the illusory "opposing" of collective vs individual intent for the very reason that such an opposition can be easily considered illusory. To recognize this is to bridge dimensions. You are discarding the sense of individuality that is the hallmark of the 3rd dimension in exchange for something greater.

Done right it will lead to what I would call a "reverse identity crisis", in that you recognize that your individual intentions are so closely aligned with the collective intentions you experience in close synchronicities with "individual entities" you perceive around you that the borders between individual experiences become blurred. You wish so strongly for the same outcome (i.e. for your planet to not totally die, for your civilization to not totally die) that there is effectively no longer any difference between "you" and "them" (insofar as that perception goes).

So you can see how great problems facilitate even greater solutions. If you want to make peace with the current conditions on earth, realize that for reasons entirely out of our control, they were induced specifically to create such conditions. Conditions of banding together in the face of adversity.

Ridiculous as it may seem, the equivalent risk of utopia is evolutionary stagnation. When things become so good you don't want anything to change.

See how ridiculously perverse 3rd dimensional reality is? I find it so.

So when you take entities who have adjusted to life beyond 3rd dimensional reality and thrust them back into it, naturally this creates a magnetic effect (the "I need to go home" effect) which generates orders of magnitude more momentum towards such a bridging of dimensions. This presents the opportunity for all such entities so inclined to make that same transition outwards along with those entities who don't belong here and strongly want to go back to their home.

This was the intent which led to the present conditions.

And it worked - maybe it was necessary - maybe it was the only way to accomplish the goal. So be it. Here we are now.

But shall there be any further impedance to prevent the progress in this regard which will now be made? I would expect not.

Let us reduce the tension on earth through more rapid progress towards stabilizing effects in conjunction with the real "Project Avalon" which could be nothing less than a portal to actual Avalon. When you go there and experience it for yourself, you will either feel "this is where I want to be, this is my home" or you will feel "I wish to remain in 3rd dimension reality to continue to explore space" and no one is wrong in deciding where they belong.

And so please, to whoever is reading this beyond participants of the forum itself, please discontinue further threats, further wrenches in the works, instead lend your hand to facilitate the end to these conditions so that we may all benefit. The time for conjuring of dissonant energies on planet earth is over.