How Advanced is the Secret Space Program?

[apokalypse]

i wonder how Advamced
is Secret Space Program? from what i know all the technologies we see on TV we already have it on planet earth, but how advance are we? do we already have mothership just like various contactee describe et's races mothership? these et's mothership can be big as planet earth and all of them have biosphere.

do we have technology do clean up the polluted environment? from what i heard one of the people who claim to be contactee said the ocean originally is fresh but some ets race put sustains in to have it as salt water...either this is true or not doesn't matter but the point is they have technology to do it which i do believe some advance races out there able to manipulate environment, do we have technology to do undo it? make it fresh clean ocean?

[Morbid]

apparently salt came to oceans when water washed it off the mountains. there is absolutely huge amount of salt out there. not sure how much energy you would need to remove it..

[etheric underground]

I recall reading some where that since the 1940's the military/industrial/black ops complex conservatively advance 30 years for
every year of civilian technology.....lets do a quick figure (conservatively)
from 1950... 1 year x secret squirrels 30 years x 65 (1950 -2015)
so ... 30 x 65 = 1950
Thats 1950 years ahead of civilian technology ...think about that....its pretty hard to think what technology will be like in 100 years.

They have portal technology,stargate technology, they can manipulate space time, they can time travel, they can see into future timelines
They have invisibility, super soldiers ( avenger like) they have cloning of humans and the ability to take a soul and put it in another body,
They have UFO's, they can take ET home, they have bases on other planets, they have treaties with Extra terrestrial races from all over this galaxy.....
IT IS UNLIMITED!!!!

[tnkayaker]

id have to come to agree with this speculation also, as far as removing salt from the ocean(s) if it was needed to be done for some money making necessity or option /opportunity , then im sure the way would be implemented but these are not for us regular folks to be informed of as to such things, in my humble opinion that is...

[yelik]

I would say it is extremely advanced and not even shared with most leaders, need to know and deniability. We, the masses live in a bubble of deceipt where our knowledge is kept to the lowest level possible.

The Star Trek life and technology is probably a good way to see how far the elites have separated themselves from the masses.

[Cidersomerset]

I recall reading some where that since the 1940's the military/industrial/black ops complex conservatively advance 30 years for
every year of civilian technology.....lets do a quick figure (conservatively)
from 1950... 1 year x secret squirrels 30 years x 65 (1950 -2015)
so ... 30 x 65 = 1950
Thats 1950 years ahead of civilian technology ...think about that....its pretty hard to think what technology will be like in 100 years.

They have portal technology,stargate technology, they can manipulate space time, they can time travel, they can see into future timelines
They have invisibility, super soldiers ( avenger like) they have cloning of humans and the ability to take a soul and put it in another body,
They have UFO's, they can take ET home, they have bases on other planets, they have treaties with Extra terrestrial races from all over this galaxy.....
IT IS UNLIMITED!!!!



I agree with all the above.....


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Great question , I often ponder when I reference the secret space programme
how advanced are they ? and several factors come into play. Did we back engineer
a captured ET craft ? Or were we given help and still given technical support and
upgrades ? Are we in some sort of alliance ?.....There are plenty theories and
various people have come forward. In the 1990's Sky -fy series 'Above and beyond'
made me think was a possible place it could be then or 'Stargate' and their
reference to being helped by the Asgard and others. There is much more , but one
of the more nuts and bolts references for me was Gary Mc Kinnon and although he
does not say a lot , the fact he mentioned a list of 'Ships' and extra terrestial crew ,
and all the hullabaloo over his extradition , gives it some gravitas ( unless its a
counter psyop, which I doubt ) The fact in both his BBC and Camelot interviews he
claimed he could not remember any names ? I think he was being coy as he was
already waiting extradition proceedings.

Come on , there is no way you would not remember some of those names. I took it
he was keeping them under his hat for a later time and now he had the extradition
to the US lifted , he has been frightened into silence.

Good summery below.....

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October 16, 2012

UK Hacker Gary McKinnon Who Saw Off World Soldiers & Ships On US Gov Computers Had Extradition Blocked!

It's not often a pure soul comes along with such knowledge and skills and turns the world of UFO
research upside-down over night, but the valiant Gary McKinnon (The Peoples Champion) has done
just that. The US Gov has deviously tried to get Gary extradited out of the UK and sent to the US
to face an American trial…more like a witch hunt. But today the US Gov lost! The people won! The
UK Blocked extradition of hacker Gary Mckinnon. Also note, hacking in the UK at that time was only
a misdemeanor…not a serous crime.Why did the US want Gary so badly? That's easy, on some of
the computers he hacked into, he discovered files about twenty to thirty non-terrestrial officers
(off world). He saw their ranks, and ship to ship transfers off world. He believes the US gov is using
reverse-engeneered technology that they recovered from UFO crashes. Gary was fearless as he
hacked into the Army, Navy, Air Force, DOD (Dept. of Defense) and NASA.

Check out the two videos below and hear it in his own words. I made the videos myself as a tribute
to him, so go easy on me for that. SCW


UK Hacker Gary McKinnon Tells About Off World US Soildiers & Ships, UFO Sighting News.

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Meet Gary McKinnon...Hero To UFO Researches World Over, UFO Sighting News.

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UK blocks 'UFO-hacker' Gary McKinnon US extradition

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The Case For Antigravity - by Andrew Johnson ( An Avalon member )............

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Published on 27 Nov 2012


Just imagine the difference working antigravity technology would make to our world
- perhaps almost effortless travel - at enormous speed. In this presentation, we ask
has working antigravity technology been developed? Is it already in use?

We take a look at the evidence from the last 100 years (arguably longer) and
consider the reasons for what looks like a comprehensive cover up. In the process
we will cover the experiments of Thomas Townsend Brown and John Hutchison and
the incredible Coral Castle and the secret Aurora Aircraft development Programme.

Andrew Johnson presented "The Case for Antigravity" at the 2nd Annual British
Exopolitics Expo on Saturday August 7th, 2010 held at the University of Leeds.

[Dennis Leahy]

The real answer is "no one* knows - it's secret."

*(I mean people not inside the top tier of the secret space program, if it even exists.) I don't know that it exists (I suspect it does exist, and that at least some of the rumors of ultra high-tech are true. Wade Frazier has a friend that was taken underground and shown both anti-gravity and free energy devices. I was not there, so at best I can "believe" it, not "know" it to be true.)

The visible government and especially the military is highly compartmentalized, and logically, the black-ops programs would be exponentially more compartmentalized. To me, this means even a real whistleblower/black-ops defector would at most have first-hand knowledge to a certain degree - only that which was allowed at that compartmentalized level. So, unless one of the people near the tip-top of the "secret space program" blabs, then the answer has to be that (virtually) no one knows.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

The real answer is "no one* knows - it's secret."

*(I mean people not inside the top tier of the secret space program, if it even exists.) I don't know that it exists (I suspect it does exist, and that at least some of the rumors of ultra high-tech are true. Wade Frazier has a friend that was taken underground and shown both anti-gravity and free energy devices. I was not there, so at best I can "believe" it, not "know" it to be true.)

The visible government and especially the military is highly compartmentalized, and logically, the black-ops programs would be exponentially more compartmentalized. To me, this means even a real whistleblower/black-ops defector would at most have first-hand knowledge to a certain degree - only that which was allowed at that compartmentalized level. So, unless one of the people near the tip-top of the "secret space program" blabs, then the answer has to be that (virtually) no one knows.

There were some sightings by naval contractors in the 90s, iirc.
An uncle's friend (now deceased :( ) was working a job that required him to be on a boat/ship.
While seafaring, this man witnessed what Wikipedia would label a "USO", submerged UFO that was capable of submersible-to-airborne maneuvers.

Yes, this is a rumor, etc., but the uncle was a pilot for decades and the friend was an electrical engineer.
This like I said was in the 80s or 90s. The uncle is in pretty poor health from what I hear and the other man had a heart attack 10 years ago or so.





Compartmentalization is a PITA.
The bit above where another user said for every year of civilian tech there is 30+ years of black ops progress,
I am seriously hoping that the corporations are catching up in these recent decades --
a hope in hell but still something to hope for.

[Snoweagle]

apparently salt came to oceans when water washed it off the mountains. there is absolutely huge amount of salt out there. not sure how much energy you would need to remove it..

Rubbish. That mountain water is part of the weather precipitation cycle and is a secondary source. This secondary source provides mankind with it's drinking water. duh

The salt in the ocean is not "salt".
Our taste buds tell us that it tastes "salty". If that was the case and it was just salt (NaCl) then people would not die so quickly after ingesting sea water.

Sea water in our oceans has every single element of the periodic table applicable to this planet dissoved in it. Albeit in microscopic proportions. Every single element.

Furthermore the oceans are constantly replenished with "new elemental water" continuously from subsea vents predominantly in the mid Atlantic trench.

[Snoweagle]

As far as the advanced secret space program is concerned, it is not about the technology itself that provides them wiith an advantage but the key science principles that enable the technology in the first place. When looking at our science, what are we missing?

You might also consider the paranoia of this apparent program in that it is so heavily compartmentalised that even those on the inside probably know very little other than their own activities. Imagine that, living a life under constant surveilance, until they become liabilities and then disappeared or whatever happens to the participants. Effectively bio-robots instead of human beings.

Any advantage the Secret Space Program accounts for diddly when you consider that we do not have the "science" they have. Once that information is made available to the global population, then we will "catch up", no problems.

[Roisin]

The real answer is "no one* knows - it's secret."

*(I mean people not inside the top tier of the secret space program, if it even exists.) I don't know that it exists (I suspect it does exist, and that at least some of the rumors of ultra high-tech are true. Wade Frazier has a friend that was taken underground and shown both anti-gravity and free energy devices. I was not there, so at best I can "believe" it, not "know" it to be true.)

The visible government and especially the military is highly compartmentalized, and logically, the black-ops programs would be exponentially more compartmentalized. To me, this means even a real whistleblower/black-ops defector would at most have first-hand knowledge to a certain degree - only that which was allowed at that compartmentalized level. So, unless one of the people near the tip-top of the "secret space program" blabs, then the answer has to be that (virtually) no one knows.

The only thing I can think of is that those at the top of the food chain must have the ability to read minds in order to have the scoop on any potential "defector". That's pretty remarkable when you think about it, isn't it? IOW's, "they" know what you're going to "think" even before you "think it".That gives clue as to just how advanced their technology is. A technology that keeps everyone involved, in check.

This sort of reminds me of that Tom Cruise movie "Minority Report". Knowing the future (or a potential future) before it's going to happen via the pre-cogs.

[ThePythonicCow]

apparently salt came to oceans when water washed it off the mountains. there is absolutely huge amount of salt out there. not sure how much energy you would need to remove it..

Rubbish. That mountain water is part of the weather precipitation cycle and is a secondary source. This secondary source provides mankind with it's drinking water. duh

The salt in the ocean is not "salt".
Our taste buds tell us that it tastes "salty". If that was the case and it was just salt (NaCl) then people would not die so quickly after ingesting sea water.

Sea water in our oceans has every single element of the periodic table applicable to this planet dissoved in it. Albeit in microscopic proportions. Every single element.

Furthermore the oceans are constantly replenished with "new elemental water" continuously from subsea vents predominantly in the mid Atlantic trench.

The concentration of NaCl in human blood is about 0.9%. The concentration of NaCl in seawater is about 3.5%. Drinking water that has a NaCl concentration over 0.9% dehydrates the body, because the body must pull water from other resources within the body, to dilute the incoming water down to the 0.9% that the body requires, or at least to provide sufficient urine flow to excrete the excessively concentrated mineral solution.

Yes, seawater contains other minerals. However your explanations have, to my understanding, a little bit of rubbish in them. Drink only a solution of pure NaCl in water that is 2% or 3% concentration for a few days, and you will dehydrate and, if you persist, die. Pure NaCl solution, in concentrations above 0.9%, is lethal, when taken in sufficient quantity and concentration as to overwhelm the body's remaining source of water required to dilute it or excrete it via the kidney's.

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apparently salt came to oceans when water washed it off the mountains. there is absolutely huge amount of salt out there. not sure how much energy you would need to remove it..

Yes (and I am at a complete loss as to why someone would label your comment "rubbish" :).)

[apokalypse]

what about technology or science dealing with Soul? from what we heard that non-benevolent et on earth have these technologies to trap the soul into reincarnation or give people false NDE/OBE...that's very cruel.

[seehas]

lets not forget that we talk about several different space programms:


-the nazis

-the cabal

-the navy

-the russians

-the chinese

.... the list is long and maybe even starts more early than the nazis.



i think that this was something the cabal recognized when they saw the stuff on moon, i wouldnt be to much surprized if u find stuff from egypt or aztec/inka on it.

and even there will be splintergroups inside of one space program because the technology makes u independent.


my question about all these space programs and splintergroups, since we know there exist "the law of non interference" does this law only count for ET/Alien actions or does it count for humans that decided to leave earth aswell? for example lets say a human secret space program build a base on mars are they allowed to mess with their tools on earth because their DNA is earthhuman?

[Aurelius]

and most importantly:

- the iranians



lets not forget that we talk about several different space programms:


-the nazis

-the cabal

-the navy

-the russians

-the chinese

.... the list is long and maybe even starts more early than the nazis.


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[Wind]

Probably very. It's for certain that they have bases at least in Mars, but I don't think that they have been able to go beyond this solar system.
It wouldn't be allowed.

[SabreToothMom]

IT's very interesting, this idea that the technology rate of increase is 30years worth of technological advance per one regular earth year.

I say this because that is what we were taught in computer programming classes in college in 1998 - that commercially available technology advances 30 years worth per human year. We were taught this when discussing the difference in computers over the past 30 years. In fact, that year - 1998 - someone gifted me a 14,400 baud modem and a 3 Gig hard drive, because my 500 MB hard drive and 4800 baud dial-up modem were holding me back in my programming courses. Compare that to what you can get in a computer nowadays.. heck a phone.. a calculator even!

So if 30 years per 1 year is conventionally accepted a the known norm in commercially available technology, it makes me wonder what the unknown, non-commercially available military technology is really capable of, and how fast it's REALLY moving. I daresay faster than 30:1.

[looking-glass]

IT's very interesting, this idea that the technology rate of increase is 30years worth of technological advance per one regular earth year.

I say this because that is what we were taught in computer programming classes in college in 1998 - that commercially available technology advances 30 years worth per human year. We were taught this when discussing the difference in computers over the past 30 years. In fact, that year - 1998 - someone gifted me a 14,400 baud modem and a 3 Gig hard drive, because my 500 MB hard drive and 4800 baud dial-up modem were holding me back in my programming courses. Compare that to what you can get in a computer nowadays.. heck a phone.. a calculator even!

So if 30 years per 1 year is conventionally accepted a the known norm in commercially available technology, it makes me wonder what the unknown, non-commercially available military technology is really capable of, and how fast it's REALLY moving. I daresay faster than 30:1.

Hi SabreToothMum,

I agree with your summation. What do I 'see' now that is outstanding from the 60s: computers/ internet/ mobile(cell) phones/ flat screens...

All the rest seems like minor tweaks on Victorian (industrial revolution) technology.

regards

[Carmody]

I recall reading some where that since the 1940's the military/industrial/black ops complex conservatively advance 30 years for
every year of civilian technology.....lets do a quick figure (conservatively)
from 1950... 1 year x secret squirrels 30 years x 65 (1950 -2015)
so ... 30 x 65 = 1950
Thats 1950 years ahead of civilian technology ...think about that....its pretty hard to think what technology will be like in 100 years.

They have portal technology, stargate technology, they can manipulate space time, they can time travel, they can see into future timelines
They have invisibility, super soldiers ( avenger like) they have cloning of humans and the ability to take a soul and put it in another body,
They have UFO's, they can take ET home, they have bases on other planets, they have treaties with Extra terrestrial races from all over this galaxy.....
IT IS UNLIMITED!!!!

The estimate was actually 50 years of back ops technology advance, for every year of public science. this is at the end of WWII.

That number has, over time, been downgraded to 44 years of black ops technology advance, for every year of public science.

When added up, and done with the simplest most degraded mathematics possible...it comes out to black ops being approximately 3000 years ahead of anything you see today.

Our major problem, is that the average human cannot easily integrate with such technological advance, without the 'boomstick (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx3Bz6cIPiw)' superhuman 'lord of the flies' scenario taking place in one way or another, with given individuals and their view of others as things to control and feed their animal aspects of ego.

We have people with estimated IQ's of 130 to maybe 150, who still treat others as animals to eat or kill off, in form and function that possess little in the way of elevated human value. Never mind the problem of placing extremely potent devices and technologies which, when mishandled and misapplied, can devastate planets....placing that in the hands of people with IQ's of 90 or less.

Too many people do not have what it takes to understand and integrate with such incredibly potent technologies. It is almost literally like handing lit sticks of dynamite to children in the schoolyard. Most seriously, that is the heart of the problem. The animal side of humans has to go, it has to leave, before such things are possible to integrate with humans.

This forum and it's readers are above average in self awareness, but the technology takes no sides and presents itself to insane and clear minded alike, with equal potential of aggravated and extreme outcome.