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Gaia
19th May 2015, 22:22
Wow! For the first time in my life here in Québec City we have a tornado warning!

Forecasters are warning people in Quebec to watch out for potentially severe storms, the day after a possible tornado struck a remote part of the province and a tornado warning was issued in Ontario.

On Tuesday afternoon, severe thunderstorm warnings replaced tornado warnings in parts of Quebec. I'm in Valcartier area...

http://www.journaldequebec.com/2015/05/19/une-alerte-de-tornade-en-vigueur-dans-la-grande-region-de-quebec

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/tornado-warning-issued-for-parts-of-southeastern-ontario-/51234/

lucidity
19th May 2015, 23:23
Hi Gaia,

do you have any theories about why you might be experiencing this kind of weather ?

be happy :-)

lucidity

Gaia
19th May 2015, 23:45
Tornado warnings ended in Quebec few minutes ago. Global warming is becoming more hospitable for a human population over here. While most Quebecers may cheer the warmer winters.. But, climate change means everything gets more extreme, hot and cold. The hell was here during last winter! Was so damn cold in Québec City! The entire planet has recorded record heat in march, but the weather in Québec has made its own way by posting colder mercury than usual...and for my life time... They said it's because of El Nino ( sourire)

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Earthlink
20th May 2015, 01:37
Lucidity I know the reasons for this. It helps to look at all the earth air and water separately to see why all severe wind events globally have been and continue to increase. The worlds oceans are roughy 5 km deep, and the air is maybe 6 km high. This is what earth air and water look like separated, and by the sheer volume of what are known as exhaust fumes, we have increased the amount of "air" here.

The "balloon" of air around our planet is being stretched out, I would say. Human beings are using billions of devices, collectively, daily, that turn liquids into gasses. This is expanding and pushing out our very atmosphere, and the corresponding increases in severe wind event occurrences corroborate this.

The oceans average depth is around 5 km, while oil deposits in the ground can be 35 km or more in depth, and some are the size of small oceans or seas in area themselves. We have already taken much of these liquids out of the ground and turned them all into gasses, and we are currently adding more than 100 million barrels a day into our sky. Billions of cubic feet per minute of gasses are being added to the sky. When these liquids burn, they expand greatly and occupy much, much more space then they did as liquids.

I believe this accounts for all of the recorded changes in severe weather events.

Snowflower
20th May 2015, 03:33
The planet is expanding. Nibiru is coming. We are entering a photon belt that encircles the sun our sun is in orbit around. We will be going through it for 2000 years and when we are fully in it, electricity will no longer work. There is a stream of energy bombarding our sun from the center of the Galaxy and this is causing our sun to bombard us with energy.

Any, none, or all of the above reasons could be the cause(s).

transiten
20th May 2015, 09:19
There's this theory Northern countries will in not so a distant future be covered with ice and snow when the Golfstream changes direction due to the melting of the sweetwater Arctic ice....goes for Scandinavia also

Wind
20th May 2015, 09:33
Life will be relatively easy for now until the shift starts to hit the fan, in the next years/2020's. As transiten said, we people from the North will be feeling it, it will get really cold and snowy while some places will be dried to dust. The extreme weather events will be part of it, people will start to see and experience things they haven't before. Nothing to be afraid of, just something that we need to be aware of. The ancients called it the time of purification. I guess that's what it is.

Earthlink
20th May 2015, 12:02
I'm 50, and it has never been as cold here as it was when I was a kid growing up, ages birth to 12, say, where we couldn't start our snowmobiles for pretty much most of January and February without using quick start (a fire dragon in a can I used to call it, an extremely flammable spray from a can that one would spray at the air intake of a fuel motor to get it to start in extreme cold) Then we all sold our snowmobiles in the 80's because it just stopped snowing and we started having brown Christmases. Small town near Ottawa Canada. In fact, every year of my entire life has been warmer than the year before it. It moves around, sometimes it gets kinda cold in the winter, like this winter it got into the minus 20's, peaked in the minus 30's (celsius) but we used to get minus 40's and 50's, and sometimes the summers are unbearable and others they are very unbearable and a place to swim or hose off or A/C is required.

It is definitely getting hotter, that's for sure.

Warmer air moves around more too, that's an affirmative, and it holds more moisture as well. It used to rain buckets in a good downpour when I was a kid and now it rains bathtub loads in a good downpour. I left the New England area in 2006 after spending a dozen years there, and before I left there were 4 complete little towns in the area that got either completely or almost completely wiped out by flash floods. Towns that had been there more than 300 years, maybe 400. Flash flooding is a big problem these days everywhere in the world, and we all need to stop listening to mainscream media, I don't know why anyone ever thought it was a good idea to subject ourselves to advertisers.

SilentFeathers
20th May 2015, 12:25
Who would you believe????? Al Gore and or the politicians????? Politically controlled scientists/officials?????? Government controlled "experts"????

...or those that have basic common sense and life experienced knowledge????? Like these people....

-1OSFYWyDTw

Wind
20th May 2015, 12:34
Well, on the Antarctic the sea ice levels are only increasing.
http://www.livescience.com/48880-antarctica-sea-ice-thickness-mapped.html
http://news.discovery.com/adventure/antarctic-sea-ice-may-force-research-stations-to-move-150512.htm

Especially some of the north eastern US states and Canada will be having more severe and harder winters... Like this one wasn't already and it was only a taster of what's to come. Then add the floods, tornadoes (droughts in other places), earthquakes to that equation. I think many will choose to move in the years and others will be forced.

Here the past winter was exceptionally warm, but also this May has been exceptionally cold. At least since last summer it has been way more cloudier and way more rainier than usually. In the beginning of May the records for rain were broken, they said that there was more rain only in 1961.

Summers used to be sunny and warm and winters cold and snowy, now it's just rainy and windy. More cosmic rays are getting to us and that of course forms more clouds. I'm part of the camp who believes that our Sun is responsible for the events on Earth, Sun used to be active and now it's not. Lesser solar irradiance directly affects us and something is affecting our solar system...

If something happens to the Gulf Stream as they say then it won't be fun at all. I hope they're wrong about that and many other things...

Gaia
20th May 2015, 12:53
The only constant thing is change. Climate in Canada is the epitome of this sentence.

Carmody
20th May 2015, 13:54
It is a simple 'ergo sum' situation.

Climate change talk of any kind, in Canada, is being suppressed, as this sort of talk would alert the the North American public to the reality of climate change.

Thus, in order to keep the US population under control and keep the war machine and all associated machinations alive and functional..... take over and control all avenues that the subject of climate and issues could arise via, in Canada.

Very straight forward, actually.

Simple plans work best.

transiten
20th May 2015, 14:09
Who would you believe????? Al Gore and or the politicians????? Politically controlled scientists/officials?????? Government controlled "experts"????

...or those that have basic common sense and life experienced knowledge????? Like these people....

-1OSFYWyDTw

I saw this on Swedish television and it doesn't contradict the theory that in the end it will be much colder in the North but at the moment the Arctic is melting and the sweet water will change the course of Gulf Stream and this will cause the cooling of the countries now having a mild climate. It's weather changes, not warming all over, rather warm and dry where it used to be the opposite and cold where it used to be warm.

Gaia
20th May 2015, 14:17
I agree with you Carmody. Technology and mass media turn out well, corporations ( political, military, industrial and financial, pharma ) and they are rubbing their hands...They skillfully manipulate men of governement, greedy for money and power, which themselves manipulate people using the information control of communications media, while muzzling freedom of expression.

Carmody
20th May 2015, 16:19
Who would you believe????? Al Gore and or the politicians????? Politically controlled scientists/officials?????? Government controlled "experts"????

...or those that have basic common sense and life experienced knowledge????? Like these people....

-1OSFYWyDTw

I saw this on Swedish television and it soesn't contradict the theory that in the end it will be much colder in the North but at the moment Antarctica is melting and the sweet water will change the course of Gulf Stream and this will cause the cooling of the countries now having a mild climate. It's weather changes, not warming all over, rather warm and dry where it used to be the opposite and cold where it used to be warm.

playing the other side of the table, is the idea that the large amount of biological material in the melting ice and glaciers... will powerfully vitalize the plankton bloom, and bring the oceans to life.

The biggest issue is the plankton, it over-arcs, in importance, all things concerning life -on this planet.

transiten
20th May 2015, 16:24
Sorry I mean the Arctic is melting NOT Antarctica which seems to be colder than ever!!!

And carmody I can't correct it in your quote:( Mercury retro really is working on me...

Hervé
20th May 2015, 16:29
Where?

For the record:


http://vivredemain.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/recc81chauffement-climat.jpg


The updated map, unveiled this week [April 20, 2015 (http://iceagenow.info/2015/04/official-canadian-government-map-shows-sea-ice-gains-arctic/)] by Natural Resources Canada, shows what appears to be more Arctic sea ice than its 2006 predecessor, despite warnings about global warming accelerating the loss of sea ice.








http://i.cbc.ca/1.3036377.1429281009!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_620/old-map-jpg.jpg
Arctic Sea Ice Map – 2006

https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7629/16555249213_6cd1d392c0_b.jpg
Arctic Sea Ice Map – 2014-
Interactive map: http://www.cbc.ca/news/multimedia/arctic-ice-2006-2014-1.3037627


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CD3b75XUIAE1buJ.jpg:large
Arctic Sea Ice Map – 2015-

Gaia
20th May 2015, 17:37
Natural Ressources Canada revised methodology and follows now international standards. Hervé this new map April 20, 2015 by Natural Ressources Canada is based on a median level of ice for the month of September over 30 years, when sea ice typically reaches its seasonal low.

The period analyzed for the modelling of Natural Ressources Canada was between 1981-2010.

Meanwhile, the Arctic sea ice extent for March 2015 averaged 14.39 million square kilometers. This is the lowest March ice extent in the satellite record. It is 1.13 million square kilometers below the 1981 to 2010 long term average of 15.52 million square kilometers. It is also 60,000 square kilometers below the previous record low for the month observed in 2006. In addition, near real time thickness data from the European Space Agency’s CryoSat-2 satellite are now available from the Centre for Polar Observation and Modelling at the University College London. The spatial pattern of ice thickness in spring is a key factor in the evolution of sea ice through the Arctic summer, and CryoSat-2 data bring the promise of regular sea ice thickness monitoring over most of the Arctic Ocean.


Better and trusted links:

National Snow & Ice Data Center

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

http://www.cpom.org/

https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/files/2015/05/Figure5-350x253.png

avid
20th May 2015, 18:28
All sorts of weather modifications now evidenced globally, via electro-magnetic field disturbances, deep earth vibrations causing ghastly quakes, and as was stated years ago, the USA military would 'own' the weather, and this technology is not just for the USA. In Norway, Australia, Alaska, China, Russia, south America et al have these vast arrays, linked to radar, who 'owns and runs' them? Then we have CERN, the rumblings of potential stargates (according to some) yet defying natural laws, and 'natural' coincidences/tragedies happening each time it's 'revved-up'. 'Normal' weather is a thing of the past, as globalists can trash fertile areas for profit at the stroke of a chemtrail these days. California? Deliberately trashed. Surely we can stop this, there are people on the web calling the weather manipulation and it's effects in advance - they see the patterns, they forecast tornadoes, and even earthquakes. Why don't we wake up and challenge the obvious? The globalistic USA-controlled military industrial complex affect weather worldwide, for profit. If there is dissent for a project (like a military base in the Philippines) they will raise it to the ground via weather-control to get acquiescence, killing thousands in their wake (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/2013/1113/US-military-footprint-on-Philippines-could-grow-after-typhoon-Haiyan-video).

Doubtless, there are planetary influences, but none so regularly prolific and 'profitable' as Katrina, Sandy, et al. The whole weather-modification platform reeks of global greed, Agenda 21, and control of populaces.

Hervé
20th May 2015, 18:57
[...]
... It is 1.13 million square kilometers below the 1981 to 2010 long term average of 15.52 million square kilometers. It is also 60,000 square kilometers below the previous record low for the month observed in 2006.
[...]

:confused: :


It is 810,000 square kilometers (313,000 square miles) below the 1981 to 2010 long-term average of 15.0 million square kilometers (6.0 million square miles) and 80,000 square kilometers (31,000 square miles) above the previous record low for the month observed in 2007.... from this article: http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/


https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/files/2015/05/Figure21.png


In short, no great change from a long term average and therefore very far from Al Gore's "modelling" of no more ice for the polar bears :)

Gaia
20th May 2015, 19:04
In short, no great change from a long term average and therefore very far from Al Gore's "modelling" of no more ice for the polar bears :)


Exactement ,aucun changement significatifs. Les ours polaires peuvent dormir tranquille. :p

One day I will start a thread about Al Gore's...

ghostrider
22nd May 2015, 00:44
funny some still cannot accept we are living in a major climate change ...

Gaia
22nd May 2015, 19:12
funny some still cannot accept we are living in a major climate change ...

Major climate research centres now accept that there has been a “pause” in global warming. The world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago. The US President last wednesday May 20, 2015 issued a forceful call to action to combat climate change, framing global warming as a national security priority:facepalm:, at the commencement ceremony of the United States coast guard academy in New London, Connecticut.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/may/20/obama-no-nation-immune-climate-change-video

I think it'a all about drought crisis versus rainmaking. I mean by that '' regional geoengineering'' Politicians are talking about climate change.... We do know that the intimate linkage between pseudo global warming (climate change) and economic vitality implicates almost every aspect of worldwide economy.

NASA debunked last year the postulate that the heat is hiding in the deep oceans:

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=4321

Politicians talk about ''Climate change'' but the real issue is about geoengineering for money and in order to feed 9.6 billion people by 2050.

I must add that: It would be irresponsible to contemplate realworld testing of this technology and the effects. We have the responsability to be concerned!

And the big question is:

When will we stop messing with nature and make the radical change that is necessary in the way we live?

panopticon
24th May 2015, 05:45
NASA debunked last year the postulate that the heat is hiding in the deep oceans:

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=4321


I'm a bit confused. The upper 2000 metres is where the heat is being stored. That has been recorded.

Some of the deep ocean currents take 100's to 1000's of years to move through a cycle. So NASA isn't debunking anything. Just showing that temperature increase in the upper ocean hasn't moved into the very deep ocean (as of yet) but has been recorded in some studies in the layer immediately below 700 metres down to 2000 metres.

So:

Surface to 700 metres - increased temperature recorded
700 metres to 2000 metres - increased temperature recorded
below 2000 metres - increased temperature not recorded


From the article:

Coauthor Felix Landerer of JPL noted that during the same period, warming in the top half of the ocean continued unabated, an unequivocal sign that our planet is heating up. Some recent studies reporting deep-ocean warming were, in fact, referring to the warming in the upper half of the ocean but below the topmost layer, which ends about 0.4 mile (700 meters) down.
So no warming has been observed in the deep oceans but has been observed in the upper stata.

Top 700 metres:

http://oceans.pmel.noaa.gov/images/OHCA_curve_2013.png
Source (http://oceans.pmel.noaa.gov)

http://www.data.jma.go.jp/gmd/kaiyou/data/english/ohc/ohc_global_en.png
Source (http://www.data.jma.go.jp/gmd/kaiyou/english/ohc/ohc_global_en.html)

Top 2000 metres:

http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/OC5/3M_HEAT_CONTENT/heat_content2000m.png
Source (http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/OC5/3M_HEAT_CONTENT/)

-- Pan