Second nuke goes off in Yemen.

[lucidity]

Hello Siblings,

News of the first nuke going off in Yemen completely escaped me.
I'd not heard a whisper about it.

I'm willing to bet that neither explosion has been reported in the MSM.

Veterans Today are reporting that a 'neutron' bomb has been exploded
in Yemen. VT suggests that this was probably deployed by the Israelis
on behalf of the Saudis.

To refresh your memory, a neutron bomb is a kind of atomic weapon
designed to maximise radiation release and minimise brute force blast.
In this way, you kill all the people but leave the infra-structure in tact.

Here's VT's report on this horror story:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/21/358343/

despite the above, be happy

lucidity.

[Rhah]

wow what... I hadn't heard anything about this either... And I keep track of our national news outlets fairly regularly.
Thank you for sharing Lucidity

[Octavusprime]

Vetrans Today makes outrages claims all the time. I've yet to hear of one that turned out to be true...

[giovonni]

One should not be too surprised by all this ... Saudi Arabia has always been very anxiously/nervous in maintaining security within its peninsula domain ... And it is apparent the new House of Saud - Is quite eagerly/ready to use the vast arsenal of weaponry it has acquired over the many years now.

[Jayren]

To read this headline now and think of the dreams ive had lately im seeing a connection here. Yesrerday morbing i woke up convinced that the people in power were going to want to set off some kind of nuke but kindly brushed it off my shoulders. Wether it's real or not its definitely something worth paying attention to.

[shadowstalker]

Hello Siblings,

News of the first nuke going off in Yemen completely escaped me.
I'd not heard a whisper about it.

I'm willing to bet that neither explosion has been reported in the MSM.

Veterans Today are reporting that a 'neutron' bomb has been exploded
in Yemen. VT suggests that this was probably deployed by the Israelis
on behalf of the Saudis.

To refresh your memory, a neutron bomb is a kind of atomic weapon
designed to maximise radiation release and minimise brute force blast.
In this way, you kill all the people but leave the infra-structure in tact.

Here's VT's report on this horror story:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/21/358343/

despite the above, be happy

lucidity.

I have actually had dreams of Nuetron bombs.

[lucidity]

Vetrans Today makes outrages claims all the time. I've yet to hear of one that turned out to be true...

Hi Octavusprime,

I've seen plenty of examples, particularly with regard to Ukraine and Israel
where VT broke a story, which was later confirmed elsewhere.
However, i'm not suggesting all their stories are correct.

I guess you didn't visit the VT website.
They've got video footage of the neutron bomb going off.

be happy :-)

lucidity

[lucidity]

Hello Siblings,

Now here's a interesting thing...

6 days ago, on the 20th May, WhiteLove made a post here about Alex Jones
giving a 'special' report on Info Wars in which he basically said that he had
an ominous feeling that something very big and very bad was
happening right now.


He said at the time he'd never given a 'Something bad is happening right now' report before.
So it was a one-of-a-kind event.

When i read that report, my first thought was ... 'yeah, me too'.
I was going to reply that i'd been walking around with a sense of apprehension or
foreboding all that morning.... but i didn't know quite why.
I found myself wondering is it X, or Y, or Z
(where each of these are personal to me).

Instead, my post to the thread focused on fact that he's made a prediction
which the passing of time might validate or repudiate.
His prediction was basically for something big and bad and right now (20th May).

Note that..... the neutron bomb went off on the 20th May.

For more on this Alex Jones prediction, see this thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82363-Alex-Jones-Something-Big-Is-About-To-Happen

I'm calling that prediction a hit.
He successfully predicted something obviously big and conspicuously bad.

be happy :-)

lucidity

[Tangri]

regards to post #7

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[joeecho]

Impressive indeed (and tragic) but why can't it be a Aviation Thermobaric Bomb of Increased Power (ATBIP), GBU-43/B, or unclassified non-nuclear bomb? Why the jump to conclusions?

For now it's a Big Mother F'in Bomb (BMFB).

It is ominous looking to be sure.

P.s. was the smoke/ dust rising at the beginning of the video before panning to the active explosion the after effect of a similar bomb?

[Sunny-side-up]

I'm defenatly no expert on bombs and or Neutron-bombs but I always assumed they were detonated quite hi up?
the vid seems to show ground detonation? which makes me wonder why use a Neutron. It might be more damaging to life of cause and so shows they did not use it as a way of killing and not being seen doing so!

[Baby Steps]

Where are the Journalists with Geiger counters?

[Carmody]

Where are the Journalists with Geiger counters?


Shot dead, for the most part.

from:http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82468-Benajmin-Fulford-May-25-2015&p=964260&viewfull=1#post964260

besides, there is this to deal with:


large plasma, low pressure, and scintillation of CCD's recording the event.

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The article states that these three conditions took place in the supplied video (the VT duff article's video, not the above yootoob link).

The level of scintillation drops by the cube vs distance, as this is a spherical calculation.... and the CCD on a cell phone is very small.

If, from that distance, any scintillation is seen at all, then we are getting to a fairly high level of radiation from the given blast.

the trick is to understand if it is faked video or a real one. since the aspects required are known, we then have to look at ground zero for the blast.

The reality is that I myself, could somehow arrive on the given scene, check things out, and then find myself reviled and ridiculed...for any given reporting that I might commit to. people who know me personally would believe what ever my verdict is, but as we move layers of personal contact away from such reporting, incredulity and self infliction of reality potentials, becomes the norm.

NLP will play out for the vast numbers of people outside of that small reality.

ie, that regardless of the video's veracity, people will believe what they want to believe.... and that will be shaped, to some degree, by any verbal and word play spin on the event, as a form of a shape charge into people's emotional inflection on their internal reality creation.

Due to the level of media and connectivity of this emergent world...It's become a world of propaganda, at best.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Impressive indeed (and tragic) but why can't it be a Aviation Thermobaric Bomb of Increased Power (ATBIP),

Based on the photo, I was hoping it was a Thermobaric or FAE. But the fireball roll is a bit slow for that. I don't think we need to assume it is neutron, especially since Duff does not name his "experts".

Pretty scary, though. Let's all send our thoughts for the highest good.

[Ewan]

Not possible they hit a munitions dump, as some Youtube comments suggest?

It's all too easy to believe with everything we hear, I'd just rather not. Nature of duality though unfortunately, yin/yang, good/evil, love/fear. The only alternative, Infinite Love.

I've got a long way to go, I've been here 55 years and I haven't a clue what love is. :/

[Baby Steps]

As we know from our thriller movies, a lab can analyse debri collected from the vicinity and identify the origin of the fissile material.
Would not such a positive Id be stunning propaganda for Isreals enemies?
If you strongly suspect this was one of those suitcase type mini nukes that Israel uses, the absence of any such revelation suggests that tptb are able to control or intimidate everybody with a lab!

[Nick Matkin]

Erm... video of a neutron bomb? I don't think so. What evidence is there?

For a start the whole point of them is to destroy electronics and humans. Niether the camera nor the operator were affected.

As for other 'nukes' going off, civilian detection equipment will detect this even if official detectors are not reported.

Remember Chernobyl? It was civilian detectors monitoring civilian radiation workers in the West that first notice the increase in radiation. The detonation of a nuclear device isn't something that would be missed or covered up by dozens of civilian labs and radiation detectors all over Europe.

Really...

Nick

[Project_Buggy_Beach]

I have to agree with Nick, if that was a neutron bomb in the video the woman would have been knocked on her backside from the shock wave.

[ghostrider]

The blast would depend on the size of the device, they have nukes that will fit in a backpack ... Their skill at death is very advanced these days... When I worked in the field back in the late 1980s, I couldn't believe the things they were capable of...

[Morbid]

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[Nick Matkin]

Seems there may be two misconceptions here.

1) It's not the blast from a neutron bomb that does most of the damage, it's the release of neutrons - hence the name. The blast may or may not be very big, but it's the neutrons that do the damage to people and electronic equipment. (Don't take my word for it, look it up.)

2) Maybe the mushroom cloud in these videos is misleading some into assuming the cause must be a nuclear device. Wrong. A mushroom cloud is formed when any explosion is big enough. And it doesn't need to be very big if the atmospheric conditions are such that the heat and smoke go straight up and roll into the mushroom form.

Those explosions are almost certainly arms dumps that were deliberately targeted.

[Desire]

Could it be that the 85,000 antelope that Gaia said died a few days ago in Kazakhstan are dead because of the neutron bombs?

[Morbid]

https://soundcloud.com/thepromiserevealed/rob-cobra-interview-on-2015-02-16#t=42:55

[Wind]

Maybe the mushroom cloud in these videos is misleading some into assuming the cause must be a nuclear device. Wrong. A mushroom cloud is formed when any explosion is big enough. And it doesn't need to be very big if the atmospheric conditions are such that the heat and smoke go straight up and roll into the mushroom form.

Those explosions are almost certainly arms dumps that were deliberately targeted.

Indeed. Here too people have often thought that ammo dump explosions were nukes due to the shape of the clouds, I think that overdramatized title of this thread is misleading and should be changed. It wasn't a nuke, if it was then it would be all over the news.

[Nick Matkin]

Could it be that the 85,000 antelope that Gaia said died a few days ago in Kazakhstan are dead because of the neutron bombs?

Firstly, have 85,000 antelope really died in Kazakhstan? Who counted them? There'll be lots of photos then?

Well yes, they are dying, but not all at once:


The cause of death is unclear, but authorities suspect the culprit is a bacterial infection carried in the mouth and breathing passage known as pasteurellosis. Source: RFE/RL (http://www.rferl.org/content/kazakhstan-saiga-deaths-85000/27031024.html)

For anyone whose geography isn't very good, Kazakhstan is a very long way from Yemen, or anywhere in the Middle East! Just look it up on Google Maps.

Any radiation cloud big enough to kill that many animals at that distance would create havoc on the way. But you knew that really didn't you? You must have given it a little thought...

Nick

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Where are the Journalists with Geiger counters?

Do journalists normally carry Geiger counters to war zones? It doesn't sound very likely.


No matter what it was Israel and the CIA are the two prime suspects in my book simply because of their habits of creating terrorism, and the fact that they both have access to such devastating weaponry. I hope whoever was responsible is held accountable for their decisions as soon as possible.

[Desire]

Nick, you sound angry about my statement.It was just a though that came to me.
Do you know how the bomb works or how it might be manipulated?
There are many reasons to question the manipulation.

[Rocky_Shorz]

if you watch this video showing the two explosions the first question is why wouldn't they drop the same bomb on both targets if they were bunker busting?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc01jwhRDoQ

what caused a neutron explosion from Yemen's arsenal?

[Desire]

Rocky
whom are you talking about when you say THEY

[Flash]

Nick, you sound angry about my statement.It was just a though that came to me.
Do you know how the bomb works or how it might be manipulated?
There are many raesons to question the manipulation.

Well, Nick is right about checking the earth map for Yemen vs Kazakstan, one is in the Middle East, just below Saoudie Arabia, the other is in Asia. It is as if you were asking it he deers dying in Alaska have anything to do with a bomb blast in Mexico. It w
would make no sense wouldn't it?

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0071/5032/products/World_Maps_International_20mil_1.jpg?v=1413619116

Atomic bombs can be tiny with much power for a large region or reduced power for local only destructiveness. But then, you would have, i believe, a radiation signature if atomic.

It could be either, a regular bomb or an atomic one, depending on the targets and objectives.

[Desire]

Maybe its something we have no idea about. Do you not think they have such things?
What about the 22 century star ship equipement.
.?

[Octavusprime]

A mushroom cloud doesn't automatically mean atomic weapon. Like stated above, it is likely a munitions stockpile being blown up.

Veterans Today article: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chinese-and-us-navy-off-san-francisco/ Classic.

All nuclear weapons produce an EMP. Wouldn't that video recorder get fried???

[joeecho]

It did make for an interesting cloud formation.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=30017&d=1432783064

Looks like one of those Macy's Day parade animals.

:focus: :)

[giovonni]

Whether the OP video is really legit or not ...

It should still be considered that (currently) such a scenario is possible in the Middle East ... In all seriousness it should not be discounted or dismissed that such a killing mechanism is available and out there ... For all bets are off when it comes down to the fanatical self preservation of such states as Israel or Saudi Arabia ... So perhaps after all these years it has finally come of age ?

The Neutron Bomb


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-DwTh-MZJY

[Rocky_Shorz]

Rocky
whom are you talking about when you say THEY

isis was created to kill off extremist to make a middle east nation of states possible.

Many of the countries have formed a coalition, sort of a National Military before the Nation has been formed...

they moved the war to Yemen hoping to draw Wasabi extremist in from Saudi Arabia to die.


the planes that dropped the bombs were Saudi

[Nick Matkin]

Nick, you sound angry about my statement.It was just a though that came to me.
Do you know how the bomb works or how it might be manipulated?
There are many reasons to question the manipulation.

No not angry, and I'm sorry if I came over like that. But on this forum we're all so preoccupied with the MSM being 'manipulated' we should be taking particular care to actually consider the likelihood of what we suggest, and what we repost - particularly from sites like Veterans Today - it sounds like a reliable site with a name like that doesn't it?

Unfortunately the MSM take advantage of the public's lack of critical thinking (http://philosophy.hku.hk/think/critical/ct.php) skills (most journalists don't understand the concept either), so could we apply it here a little more? Just occasionally maybe?

Nick

PS: And to always provide the source so it can be checked out to really exist and assess its trustworthiness.

[lucidity]

A mushroom cloud doesn't automatically mean atomic weapon. Like stated above, it is likely a munitions stockpile being blown up.

Veterans Today article: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chinese-and-us-navy-off-san-francisco/ Classic.

All nuclear weapons produce an EMP. Wouldn't that video recorder get fried???

Hello Siblings,

My problem with the 'Explosion of Munitions' theory is...

How many tons of ammo would be required to produce a 'boooom' of that magnitude ?
Yemen are in a war with Saudi Arabia....
Why would Yemen decide to destroy an immense quantity of their own ammo ?

However, I would prefer to believe that this explosion wasn't a neutron bomb.

be happy :-)

lucidity

[sandpainter]

Here's more follow-up; http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/29/how-israel-was-busted-nuking-yemen/ With regard to Octavusprime's characterization:
If Gordon Duff runs Adamus Defense out of Zug, Switzerland, as he professes, and if he truly was a member of the "Majestic 12 reader's group" then I tend to think that his view point is worthy of very serious consideration. VT claims to have many reliable sources including informants from the IAEA, U.S. strategic laboratories, and many clandestine sources throughout the world. It is regrettable that there is so much internecine warfare among prominent alternative media personalities but during these "times that try men's souls" this is inevitable. For an interesting discussion about Gordon Duff and VT please see Michael Salla: http://exopolitics.org/tag/gordon-duff/

[marc]

By the looks of it,the 'big' bang is a secundary explosion !

[Richard S.]

I've got a long way to go, I've been here 55 years and I haven't a clue what love is. :/

May I suggest, it is simply something you give away...

[Octavusprime]

If you listen to the explosion, you will hear a multitude of smaller explosions indicative of munitions being exploded. After the explosion there are small arms fired but listen to the explosion itself. All sides of the war have munitions stockpiles to supply their front line. They wouldn't want all their weapons on the front line so instead they find a hiding spot to store it. This is likely an air dropped bomb on one such stockpile.

We know that depleted uranium is used in many modern munitions so I wouldn't doubt the possibility of a neutron bomb being used. I just don't think this is one.

[cuitlahuac]

This explosion is very probably an underground weapons storage facility exploding due to a bunker busting bomb hitting it.

In the video below you can see a standard bunker bomb exploding in the hills (at the left) at 7 seconds, and at 14 seconds a big explosion creating a mushroom cloud. A 7 second delay between the first explosion and the big one.

Also it is reported that rockets were set on fire and flying uncontrolled from that location of the big explosion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu8GDJzyKx4

In the video below at 3:10 minutes, you can see rockets firing uncontrolled, indicating the place was a rockets and munition underground storage place:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfOjy-ij4S0

[Carmody]

If you listen to the explosion, you will hear a multitude of smaller explosions indicative of munitions being exploded. After the explosion there are small arms fired but listen to the explosion itself. All sides of the war have munitions stockpiles to supply their front line. They wouldn't want all their weapons on the front line so instead they find a hiding spot to store it. This is likely an air dropped bomb on one such stockpile.

We know that depleted uranium is used in many modern munitions so I wouldn't doubt the possibility of a neutron bomb being used. I just don't think this is one.

Yes, I don't think it is a neutron bomb either. The particles seen in the air do not correspond to pixels on a CCD misfiring due to radiation.

To see what that looks like, see the stereo satellite pair, and how they react when a solar flare and CME occur. There you will see how a CCD hit with radiation reacts.

In the yemen video we see shiny bits floating around in the air. CCD pixels do not move and they do not have focal patterns.


By the way, a given ISIS HQ of some sort was just hit, according to some recent reports. It was apparently hit with 3x JDAM munitions. Here is a video of what 3x JDAMS look like, at a given impact point. Of course the idiots in the video are all excited.....

The news report:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=65&v=qGfdYHxcVHE


and the comparative JDAM triple hit video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fc8bgf1pGk

(JDAM is a name for the guidance package that is strapped to a given ordinance, be it 500lbs to 2000 lbs, which is tied to the limit size of the JDAM hardware [clothes, and what sizes can fit in the clothes], and the given aircraft's ability to carry mass to the target zone)

[lucidity]

Hello Siblings,

The story of the nuking of Yemen wasn't covered _at_all_ in the
mainstream western media. However the english language version of pravda did cover it:

http://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/29-05-2015/130785-nuclear-0/

be happy :-)

lucidity

[ThePythonicCow]

The Nuking of Yemen
I merged your new thread in with the existing thread discussing this topic.

[Nick Matkin]

Hello Siblings,

The story of the nuking of Yemen wasn't covered _at_all_ in the
mainstream western media. However the english language version of pravda did cover it:

http://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/29-05-2015/130785-nuclear-0/

be happy :-)

lucidity

Just because a big explosion creates a mushroom cloud doesn't mean nuclear explosion, even if (especially if!) it's reported in Pravda.ru.

The story is from the end of May 2015. Radiation would have been picked up by now. And before anyone says government detectors would 'hush it up', there are many industrial and amateur radiation detectors spread around the world. It was the nuclear industry (outside the USSR) that first picked up radiation from Chernobyl.

The EMP would also have been detected along with likely seismic disturbances. These things can't be set off in the open like that without thousands of people detecting it.

It wasn't reported because it didn't happen.

Nick

[idiit]

breaking news:


Yemen army seizes 4 Saudi military basesSat Sep 12, 2015 4:38PM

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/09/12/428898/Saudi-Yemen-Dhahran-

[idiit]

little background info on the true ancestry of the Saudi royals according to the Saudi family historian:


In the History Book of the SAUDI FAMILY pages (98-101), their private family historian declares that


the SAUDI DYNASTY considers all the people of NAJD blasphemous; so their blood must be shed, their properties confiscated, and their females be taken as concubines; no muslem is authentic in his /her belief unless he/she belongs (affiliates) to the sect of MOHAMMAD BIN ABDUL WAHAB, (whose origins are also Jewish from TURKEY.) His doctrines give authority to the SAUDI FAMILY to destroy the villages with all their inhabitants-males including children, and to sexually assault their women; stab the bellies of the pregnant, and cut off the hands of their children, then burn them! They are further authorized by such a BRUTAL DOCTRINE to plunder all the properties of whom they call renegades (not following their Wahabi Sect).



The Jewish roots of the Saudi Royal Family https://www.facebook.com/notes/hidden-truth/the-jewish-roots-of-the-saudi-royal-family/277683585596093

see any difference between the "protocols of the elders of zion" and the protocols of the wahabis?


You Can't Understand ISIS If You Don't Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39555.htm

"wahhabism Zionism" google results: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=wahhabism+zionism