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Carmen
3rd June 2015, 05:10
Recently I have started the way of eating of this diet. It's not so much a diet as a lifestyle change, or way of eating. It I envolves fasting or semi fasting during the day and eating one meal at night. Actually, this is what my ballet dancer sister did to maintain her weight. I have toyed with the idea over the years and have finally decided to do this, to address my weight issues and also my general health.

I've only been doing it for a week but I'm finding it quite easy and have loads of energy and my metabolism seems to be up. It's winter here in New Zealand and in recent years I have really suffered from the cold. Well, since starting this diet I'm not cold. My body seems to be a lot warmer. And fasting or semi fasting during the day allows me to eat what I like in the evening. I find though that I cannot eat a huge meal, my stomach is full on a moderate meal.

Has anyone here experienced this way of eating? It suits me at this stage but I guess it wouldn't suit everyone. I think it would be a good survival tool also, getting used to not grazing all day. It's like making friends with hunger and not fussing or panicking over not eating regularly.

Carmen
3rd June 2015, 06:23
If you look at this on utube you mainly get bodybuilders flexing muscle! If that had of been my only knowledge of this way of eating I would have dismissed it instantly but my past experience of this way of eating caused me to do some research on it. I'm impressed by the references to longevity and better health. I must say I feel great.

Snowflower
3rd June 2015, 07:27
Yes, it's got a name: Intermittent Fasting. Look it up in Dr. mercola's website. It's a good dieting tool.

Bubu
3rd June 2015, 11:41
Hello Carmen I have this type of eating habit by feel. I mean since I decided not toto follow the norms. I normally wake up in the middle of the nigth and eat mostly protiens during the day I eat mostly fruits. I eat only when hungry all this by feel. My only con ious choice is to eat only u process foods. I have lots of energy no sickness and getting younger. I also do lots of exercise.

Joey
3rd June 2015, 11:41
Yes, i do. I fast reguraly in the morning. This means i get up at 6, do some yoga and off to work.
I start eating when I get extraordinary hungry, if not, I will start eating at noon.

It is important to focus on the quality of your meal. So eat a meal which saturates the body and fulfills it needs.
For me, these are things like eggs, grassfed beef, grassfed butter, grassfed raw milk, bone broth or grassfed organ meats like liver.
These are high quality sources of food which will give the body everything it needs. Ofcourse served with vegetables.

In this forum you see a lot of times people who swear by an vegan diet. I think this is pretty dangerous. Yes, it will cleanse the body, which make you feel highly energetic at first. On the long term, this type of diet will cause malnutrition. For this is a little off topic, when someone is interested, please check the findings of Weston Price. I highly recommend this.

Intermitted fasting is also not for everyone. It can cause low blood sugar levels, making you dizzy and focussing will be hard. Also, if your body is not in a good shape or you meals are insufficient, then this is not a good idea.

If done well, intermitted fasting can make you balance out your hormone levels. For example, the human growth hormone can rise significantly. If I remember it correctly, up to 2000%. It is a great thing to do to keep the body in a clean, healthy and balanced state.

MorningFox
3rd June 2015, 12:25
Do you have more information on the diet or is simply having one meal in the evening the brunt of it?

:handshake:

Joey
3rd June 2015, 12:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxX5oPZf3fw&app=desktop

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/16/ketogenic-diet-benefits.aspx?e_cid=20130608_DNL_artTest_A2&utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=artTest_A2&utm_campaign=20130608

sirdipswitch
3rd June 2015, 12:50
Yep!!! You have described me. cc. I have been a one meal per day eater ny whole life. All the way back to childhood. Small child. (5-6 y/o) It always just seemed to be the Natural thing to do. Plus, the MORE work I had to do... the less I ate. I was born and raised on a farm and became a truck driver, heavy equipment operator for the rest. I did hard physical labor mt whole life. Durring my truckin years I would often get so busy that I would forget to eat. Sometimes for several days. 5 was the most. Yep 5 days hard labor without food. (or sleep!!!) And I felt great!!! Wasn't fat either!! cc.

After that 5 day shot, I went to bed and woke up 18 hours later. cc. When up, all I ate was a cup of soup. The next day, it was back to normal. Did that my whole life. I'm now 71 and fit as a fiddle.

That's not to say though that I have never had problems, for I have had some. Went to a Dr, and he said I was Diabetic and put me on medication for it. He also thought I may have Prostate cancer and wanted to do a biopsy. I said NO, you ain't pokin no holes in me. I then found Auyervedic Healing and quit taking my medication and decided not to be sick any more. He said I would be dead in two years. That was ten years ago. I ain't dead. Stopped by to see him a few months ago, just to see what he would say. He asked what I did. I just told him, 5,000 year old medicine from India, and walked out, leaving him standing there with his mouth hanging open. ccc. Love doing that to peope. cc.

sirdipswitch
3rd June 2015, 13:09
Ps: Snowflower is right on... Dr. Mercola, is good thinkin. You will not go wrong reading his website!!!!!

Then!!!

Go to youtube and explore Auyervedic Healing.

Most IMPORTANT!!! You HAVE a Computer!!! USE IT!!! You can find ANY thing you need!!!

Do your own research!!! Don't have time??? Really??? You'er here!!! Are you wasting reasearch time??? chuckle chuckle.

Folks that say they don't have time... don't know how to use it!!! cc.

RunningDeer
3rd June 2015, 14:03
How Intermittent Fasting Stacks Up
By Dr. Mercola

Is it a good idea to "starve" yourself just a little bit each day? The evidence suggests that yes, avoiding eating around the clock could have a very beneficial impact on your health and longevity.

What we're talking about here is generally referred to as intermittent fasting, which involves timing your meals to allow for regular periods of fasting.

It takes about six to eight hours for your body to metabolize your glycogen stores and after that you start to shift to burning fat. However, if you are replenishing your glycogen by eating every eight hours (or sooner), you make it far more difficult for your body to use your fat stores as fuel.

[article here (http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2013/03/01/daily-intermittent-fasting.aspx)]
<3

Carmen
3rd June 2015, 17:56
Thanks for your replies. Apart from Dr Mercolas website "The Warrior Diet" can be downloaded in pdf form to read in its entirety if members are interested. As some people stated in their replies, it seems to be a natural way of eating for some people. It does for me as it's quite easy once the body is used to it. There is no loss of energy. In fact, just the opposite. I actually hate diets because of feeling tired and feeling I was 'missing out' on my favourite foods. I do avoid junk, also bread and sugar, because my body reacts badly to both those. I wake up with a " hangover" if I eat the wrong foods! So, I feel as though I have 'struck gold' with this way of eating.

RunningDeer
3rd June 2015, 18:44
Apart from Dr Mercolas website "The Warrior Diet" can be downloaded in pdf form to read in its entirety if members are interested.
Thanks for the info, Carmen. :wave:

free pdf - The Warrior’s Diet (http://zebupomp13.free.fr/Nutri/The-Warrior-Diet-Fat-Loss-Plan.pdf) AND WarriorDiet.com (http://warriordiet.com)

RunningDeer <3

Carmen
3rd June 2015, 18:46
Thanks Joey, interesting talk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxX5oPZf3fw&app=desktop

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/16/ketogenic-diet-benefits.aspx?e_cid=20130608_DNL_artTest_A2&utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=artTest_A2&utm_campaign=20130608

Baby Steps
4th June 2015, 10:46
There is a point for those getting on (and maybe overweight)
Our bodies naturally forget to burn fat. We become carb addicts. The way to break the cycle I have found is to combine intermittent fasting with low carb high fat meals,so once you break your fast the metabolism is presented with lipids to burn. You feel satisfied but not that bloated carb feeling. Once those lipds are burned the body easily transitions to burning its own fat.
Just my experience, but I have not totally abandoned carbs, rather I only have them in any quantity in the evening, but after a day on lipids you do not feel like binging on carbs!
Of course you have to know what the good fats are!

Carmen
4th June 2015, 12:09
It's easier to fast or semi-fast all day than to eat the regular breakfast, lunch and dinner. If I eat breakfast for instance, I'm hungry all day! So far I'm not that hungry fasting during the day, and my energy is still high. I'm not weak or cold when I'm fasting.

Someone mentioned The Western Price Foundation. Sally Fallons book "Nourishing Traditions" and the latest one "Nourishing Broths" based on Western Prices findings, are fabulous tomes of recipes and advice to really get our health on track.

GrnEggsNHam
4th June 2015, 17:38
I've lost 60lbs since I started Intermittent Fasting(fast for 16 hours, eating hours 11AM-7PM) and exercising regularly(about 60-90 minutes a day during my eating hours). 225lbs the largest of my life and now down to 165lbs(very low body fat%), in about 8 months time. I actually think I am too small now and my wife agrees lol. I really want to be a solid 185 lbs. That will come as I continue to build muscle but if you want to burn fat Intermittent Fasting seems to do that well and without a ton of effort. I suggest not being rigid in your devotion to the diet though. For instance I've modified the diet to allow any raw fruits and veggies during the fasting hours. This has helped me ingest more fruits and vegetables than I ever have before. The evening snacking was the hardest for me to break, now I eat a banana or apple if I get hungry.

darthtoaster
4th June 2015, 22:57
First day, trying this along with you. Seems legit. Hunger not a problem. Felt somewhat ill after eating :) The most noticeable difference was that I had a deep feeling of peace all day which is not the norm for me, not something this deep. Intriguing. I like it :)

Carmen
4th June 2015, 23:37
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I've lost 60lbs since I started Intermittent Fasting(fast for 16 hours, eating hours 11AM-7PM) and exercising regularly(about 60-90 minutes a day during my eating hours). 225lbs the largest of my life and now down to 165lbs(very low body fat%), in about 8 months time. I actually think I am too small now and my wife agrees lol. I really want to be a solid 185 lbs. That will come as I continue to build muscle but if you want to burn fat Intermittent Fasting seems to do that well and without a ton of effort. I suggest not being rigid in your devotion to the diet though. For instance I've modified the diet to allow any raw fruits and veggies during the fasting hours. This has helped me ingest more fruits and vegetables than I ever have before. The evening snacking was the hardest for me to break, now I eat a banana or apple if I get hungry.

Wow, that's very inspiring, congratulations. I bet the food industry does not like this way of eating! It cuts out breakfast cereals for a start! And causes people to stop grazing all day.

Carmen
5th June 2015, 23:29
How's it going Darthtoaster? I am certainly clearheaded on this diet. Bit hungry this morning, but I eat an apple and that fixes it. Takes a while for the body to adjust to using fat for energy, but when it does one doesn't crash during the day. I love that I get to eat good food in the quantity I want once a day. I'm not thinking of food all day.

giovonni
6th June 2015, 00:15
Go Get Em Judith ... ;)

Carmen
6th June 2015, 00:24
Off with his head!! The drunken sot!! "Here maid, let me stick it in your basket!"

Don't worry folks. It's an inside joke between me and Gio. Hmmm actually Gio, I thought about you and this particular way of eating. The research indicates its good for some diabetics, although I dunno?!

giovonni
6th June 2015, 00:40
Off with his head!! The drunken sot!! "Here maid, let me stick in your basket!"

Don't worry folks. It's an inside joke between me and Gio. Hmmm actually Gio, I thought about you and this particular way of eating. The research indicates its good for some diabetics, although I dunno?!

Sounds interesting ...
though it might create some issues with maintaining a balanced daily blood sugar ...
i have found choosing 3-4 smaller portions scattered throughout the day works best for me...

With much much emphasis on the words balanced and smaller portions ... :o

Anyway - if there's anyone that can do it - My bets with you Carmen !

Mnemosyne
6th June 2015, 07:35
Hi Carmen
I also live in New Zealand.
Some person has made money for coming up with a "diet" attached the word "warrior" to it. I think this is an example of one of the ills of our so called"civilisation". No doubt some person has observed how people in developing nations, who often can only eat one meal a day if that, can perform exhausting physical labour, and obviously because there diet would be very simple and how healthy they were in comparison to those from wealthier countries.
I think eating one meal a day is fine if that is what you choose to do. However it is essential that you get all the nutrients one needs to be healthy ,that is the most important thing. If you are worried about weight then count calories and maintain portion control.

Snowflower
6th June 2015, 10:00
I'm convinced that there's going to be a different solution for everyone. Supposedly for my body type, I should be able to lose weight with low carb diets - and did, 40 years ago. But then ballooned up to 360 lbs and nothing I did, no matter how many times I went low carb, could not lose again. Then I started eating raw fruits and veggies exclusively and lost 100 lbs. I kept it off for four years, but was never able to force myself to stay on 100% raw again. Then I started juice fasting and have lost another 40 lbs and am going strong, losing a half to a pound a day.

Talk about polar opposites! Low carb to exclusive vegan couldn't be more opposite. I'm totally sold on raw fruits and veggies, with the extreme version being juice fasting, as a way for ME to lose weight and KEEP it off, but not necessarily for other people. I maintained intermittent fasting, super low carb (30 grams or less per day), and strict Paleolithic for several months last summer and fall, and did bounce weight around a bit but in the end had lost nothing. Now I'm losing like gangbusters, eating whenever I please (eating being euphemistic since all I'm doing is drinking, lol) as much as I please. Sometimes I put my food into fitday.com and am amazed by how MANY carbs I'm getting. And losing anyway.

Carmen
7th June 2015, 05:42
Hi Carmen
I also live in New Zealand.
Some person has made money for coming up with a "diet" attached the word "warrior" to it. I think this is an example of one of the ills of our so called"civilisation". No doubt some person has observed how people in developing nations, who often can only eat one meal a day if that, can perform exhausting physical labour, and obviously because there diet would be very simple and how healthy they were in comparison to those from wealthier countries.
I think eating one meal a day is fine if that is what you choose to do. However it is essential that you get all the nutrients one needs to be healthy ,that is the most important thing. If you are worried about weight then count calories and maintain portion control.

:blushing: okay, start again Carmen! If you read the Warrior Diet, which is available in PDF form, you will see that it very much emphasises nutrition. Also there is much research available now backing up the health benefits and longevity benefits to fasting or restricting calories generally.

Carmen
7th June 2015, 06:47
Some observations. I've been on this diet just over a week. Lost about two to three pounds. My nose was always running a bit in the mornings when I sat up in bed with my tea. This is no longer the case. The diet is becoming easier, the longer I do it. I'm not overeating with my one meal, cant seem to do that, and my food, I kind of celebrate/appreciate it more.

Mnemosyne
7th June 2015, 09:17
I hope it proves to be the right and most healthy approach to food and eating for you,Carmen goodluck :thumbsup:. I am aware of the health discoveries re: benefits of calorie restriction. I certainly agree that many,many people on Earth at present consume far to many calories and this well recognised as a problem faced at present. I have always found that the best guide to what is the best/healthiest way of eating for me has been to listen to my body it will communicate to me what works and what is not the right.

darthtoaster
9th June 2015, 01:22
I'm not thinking much of food either, much :) very clear headed. This is quite interesting ...

Carmen
9th June 2015, 23:11
I feel healthier with this way of eating. My skin is shiny. I love planning my delicious, nutritious, one meal of the day.

My nose is runny again though. Not sure what that is about! Maybe it's part of detoxing.

MorningFox
10th June 2015, 13:16
I wish healthy eating wasn't synonymous with losing weight. Almost everything I ever read to do with healthy eating is about losing weight, it's rather tedious. I am the perfect weight and do not want to lose any weight at all.... Yet everything I read is telling me what foods to eat to lose weight. I'm simply interested in eating the best food for my body, while maintaining my weight.

I watched a mainstream documentary about 'healthy eating' the other week and literally the ONLY consideration was how many calories and how much fat each food had. Literally no thought at all about the vitamins, minerals, nutrients or anything... It was embarrassing.

People have been brainwashed into thinking something is healthy if it's low calorie. That is only an issue to fat stupid people. :thumbsdown:

Akasha
11th June 2015, 16:49
.....Then I started eating raw fruits and veggies exclusively and lost 100 lbs. I kept it off for four years, but was never able to force myself to stay on 100% raw again. Then I started juice fasting and have lost another 40 lbs and am going strong, losing a half to a pound a day.

Talk about polar opposites! Low carb to exclusive vegan couldn't be more opposite. I'm totally sold on raw fruits and veggies, with the extreme version being juice fasting, as a way for ME to lose weight and KEEP it off.....

All power to you, Snowflower!!! Absolutely fantastic news!!!!!

(sneakily slips in a Michael Greger (nutritionalfacts.org (http://nutritionfacts.org/)) video to scientifically rebut the advantages of animal product content in the warrior diet - as well as highlighting many lesser-known advantages of going plant-based)

B-8ovk81nNM

Carmen
11th June 2015, 19:30
Ohh, please!!! Don't turn this into a veggie verses meat eaters discussion!! This is not what this thread is about. Go start your own thread if you want to talk about that.

I actually don't consider what I'm doing as "diet" diet. It's more a way of eating. Actually the writer of the book "The Warrior Diet" does not eat meat, but that's his choice, and that's fine.

I'm more interested in the fasting aspect of this way of eating and other peoples experience of that. The research seems to indicate many health benefits. I'll just have to learn how to post videos and articles from other sources to show you some of the inspirational material on this subject!

Akasha
12th June 2015, 14:09
Ohh, please!!! Don't turn this into a veggie verses meat eaters discussion!! This is not what this thread is about. Go start your own thread if you want to talk about that.

I actually don't consider what I'm doing as "diet" diet. It's more a way of eating. Actually the writer of the book "The Warrior Diet" does not eat meat, but that's his choice, and that's fine.

I'm more interested in the fasting aspect of this way of eating and other peoples experience of that. The research seems to indicate many health benefits. I'll just have to learn how to post videos and articles from other sources to show you some of the inspirational material on this subject!

I wasn't going to but your response needs a couple of things addressing.

Firstly, the Warrior diet is basically just another appeal to "buy my animal cruelty based supplement line" woven in with established and successful dietary advice.

Secondly, since you cite the author as being vegetarian as some kind of moral get-out, consider this:

there is more suffering in a glass of milk than in a steak.

Before you dismiss the seemingly illogical statement, consider for a moment the fact that while beef cattle are simply raised and slaughtered, typically after 2 years, the dairy cow:

1) is repeatedly raped (they have to be pregnant/postnatal to provide milk - an obvious but often overlooked fact)

2) repeatedly has its offspring stolen, typically within the first 2 days of the calf's life, to become veal if it's male and another dairy cow if it's female

3) is milked daily, the results of which lead to mastitis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastitis_in_dairy_cattle), the persistent, inflammatory reaction of the udder tissue when repeatedly subjected to modern milking technology (a side line being the puss content within milk as a result. Of course by the time it makes it into Warrior Milk, all the puss has been pasteurised so all good, right?)

4) ends up suffering the same fate of slaughter as its beef counterpart.

If the mod's point out that I have violated Avalon's guidelines, I will politely apologise and step back in line, but, this is 2015, Carmen. If you are going to promote animal cruelty, even if inadvertently, I'm going to be compelled to get involved. On the other hand, if you just want to discuss the benign topic of dietary fasting, go ahead. It's certainly a valid, if not problematic, method of weight loss which naturally deserves its own thread.

Carmen
13th June 2015, 01:02
I'll answer you this time Akasha, then back to the topic of my thread!

You are quite correct as to the terrible abuse of dairy cattle in USA, plus many other countries! My husband is a dairy farmer who visited America a few years back. He is a leading edge farmer keeping up with modern technologies, but what he witnessed in America shocked him to the core!!

Dairy cows who were indoors their entire life.
Huge animals that could barely walk.
Pumped full of drugs to keep them functioning.
Old at aged three as they ceased to be fertile after that age.

The only dairy farms he enjoyed visiting were those owned by the Amish people.

Anyway, he came home to New Zealand and instigated change. Herds no bigger than 300 cows. Milking once a day not twice. (Easier on animals, staff, and the environment.)

Dairy cows in New Zealand are grass fed, outside, and many of them are milked once a day now. As always,there are excellent farmers and those not so! Good farmers love the land and their animals and that is reflected in an harmonious operation.

Raw milk is a fabulous food that is available in New Zealand. I milked my own cow a few years back and she lived a great life.

Not all dairy farmers in America run their farms like factories either. There are many excellent organic farmers who could show the corporate farming types a better way. Unfortunately, the U.S. Government seems to favour the corporates. The magazine " Acres USA" is a marvellous resource of natural farming methods. Most Americans have probably never heard off it.

So, enough of your fanatacism. If you want to start a thread on vegetarianism, go for it.

You should read "The Warrior Diet", it's an excellent book.(ahh! I thought you were American! Sorry!)

Akasha
13th June 2015, 17:17
Please highlight my fanaticism, Carmen because I just don't see it. I haven't been rude or abusive and I have kept within the forum guidelines. I understand it must be hard when your (husband's) livelihood is built on the abuse which I am trying to counter, but I am simply stating facts - facts that apply to grass-fed dairy as much as they apply to factory-derived dairy, however, instead of rebutting my points, you resort to ad hominem attacks via baseless accusations of fanaticism coupled with a flurry of meaningless anecdotes given the nature of the debate.

Did you watch Michael Greger's presentation (the post which you could have ignored but chose not to, resulting in this dialogue which I am more than happy to continue, whilst it appears you are not)? He's not trying to sell animal protein-laden supplements. Rather, he's sharing peer reviewed, scientific dietary information - something you should be appreciative of, given the dietary nature of this thread. Of course you are free to ignore it, potentially at your peril, but if you start a thread positing perspective A, you really have to be prepared for the potential debate which may ensue from those positing perspective B. Sorry, but that's just the way discourse works.

So go ahead. Share the levels of mastitis within your husband's herd for example..... or, let us know how long he allows the new-born calves to suckle at their mothers teats, as well as what happens to them once that 'privilege' is revoked, and, perhaps inform us of the cows' fate once their dairy output drops below profitable levels. Pretty straight-forward stuff really, not to mention a priceless opportunity to stick it to fanatical vegans (not vegetarians - there is a fundamental difference) once and for all if, that is, the facts you share aren't in conflict with the way you would want to be treated while on this planet.

Carmen
13th June 2015, 19:36
You are a thread killer! Please just go away and post somewhere else. If you don't I will just ask the mods to close this thread!

Carmen
18th June 2015, 20:35
Akasha has started his own thread. That's great. Each to their own.

One huge advantage to me eating this way is that I'm not cold this winter. Usually I suffer from the cold but this winter I'm absolutely fine. It must be from switching to fat- burning mode. Usually in the winter I add an extra duvet to my bed but not this year and I don't need it! In the old days when I did 'diet', winter wasn't the time to do it as I got too cold and shivery!

Actually this way of eating should not be call a diet, because it isn't,and probably puts some people off. I eat what I like but once a day. I eat some fruit at lunch time and that's it. I'm not cold because my energy is high and I get things done.

I'm not bothering to weigh myself yet. I just want to get really used to this way of eating first. I'm feeling 'normal' around food, not wanting to chew my arm off with hunger! So far, so good.

I have the book now and it's excellent. I won't be doing all the body building stuff but I have resumed my yoga and I'm starting jogging, which will be a bit difficult in the snow today!

DNA
18th June 2015, 23:33
Yes, i do. I fast reguraly in the morning. This means i get up at 6, do some yoga and off to work.
I start eating when I get extraordinary hungry, if not, I will start eating at noon.

It is important to focus on the quality of your meal. So eat a meal which saturates the body and fulfills it needs.
For me, these are things like eggs, grassfed beef, grassfed butter, grassfed raw milk, bone broth or grassfed organ meats like liver.
These are high quality sources of food which will give the body everything it needs. Ofcourse served with vegetables.

In this forum you see a lot of times people who swear by an vegan diet. I think this is pretty dangerous. Yes, it will cleanse the body, which make you feel highly energetic at first. On the long term, this type of diet will cause malnutrition. For this is a little off topic, when someone is interested, please check the findings of Weston Price. I highly recommend this.

Intermitted fasting is also not for everyone. It can cause low blood sugar levels, making you dizzy and focussing will be hard. Also, if your body is not in a good shape or you meals are insufficient, then this is not a good idea.

If done well, intermitted fasting can make you balance out your hormone levels. For example, the human growth hormone can rise significantly. If I remember it correctly, up to 2000%. It is a great thing to do to keep the body in a clean, healthy and balanced state.

I agree with you here all the way Joey.
Thank you for the post.

Carmen
19th June 2015, 05:58
I have no lose of energy or any dizziness so it obviously suits me.