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Celine
21st November 2010, 01:06
Space may be first frontier for the next major conflict: Canadian official

Peter Rakobowchuk The Canadian Press

OTTAWA—It won’t look like a scene from Star Wars, but the man in charge of space development for the defence department predicts the initial steps of the next major conflict are more than likely to start in orbit and Canada should be prepared.

There will “absolutely” be more of a military role for Canada in space than in the past, Col. Andre Dupuis said on Saturday as he discussed the defence department’s plans to overhaul its space defence policy.

“The first line in the sand for the next major conflict may very well be in space or cyberspace, but probably not on the ground or in the air or in the seas,” Dupuis said in an interview while attending the annual conference of the Canadian Space Society.

Canada’s first space policy came out 12 years ago and Dupuis is worried by what has since been going on above our heads in recent years, especially the activities of China.

“A lot of water has gone under the bridge since 1998 and the environment has changed,” he told the conference.

“Since that time, we’ve seen an unintended collision between two satellites in space and an anti-satellite test by the Chinese.”

In February, 2009, an American communications satellite slammed into a Russian military satellite and China used a missile to destroy one of its weather satellites in 2007.

Those two events added about 20 per cent more space debris around the Earth, “making the environment congested, contested and competitive,” Dupuis said.

The defence department’s new space defence policy is almost complete and has reached the highest levels for final review, he said.

Dupuis told the conference the policy “recognizes space as an operational environment” and provides guidance on how to exploit it in support of Canadian Forces operations.

Dupuis says the satellite destruction by the Chinese was a clear indication the Chinese are planning ways to conduct operations in space.

“Not space warfare, but operations in space to deny the advantage frankly to the West,” he said.

But what worries Dr. James Fergusson, the director of Canada’s centre for defence and security studies, is that the public really doesn’t care much about what’s going on in space.

“For the public at large, space is out of sight and out of mind,” he told the conference. “The public’s idea is Hollywood ... that’s by and large their notion of space.”

The University of Manitoba professor says space will take on a growing significance in the future, “it’s importance to our security, its importance to our economic well being (and) our way of life.”

Fergusson concludes that so far attempts to get the public interested have failed miserably.

Another panelist, Doug Bancroft, director-general of the Canada Centre for Remote Sensing, part of National Resources Canada, said the only effective way to monitor the country is from space.

For example, satellite data is useful when it comes to keeping an eye on large projects like pipelines, oilsands and the offshore, Bancroft said.

“It’s not the big Exxon Valdez oil or the Mexican Gulf disaster, it’s people dumping bilge water in the middle of the night,” Bancroft said. “That was killing millions of sea birds on Canada’s shoreline.”

He notes that oceans are now being monitored by Canada’s Radarsat satellite in real time.

“And if a ship is putting out a spill in the middle of the night, we’ll send out a Transport Canada aircraft and nail their sorry asses,” he said.

Jean-Claude Piedboeuf of the Canadian Space Agency, admits the agency has been looking at ways to get the public engaged in space exploration.

“This is a key,” he said. “If we cannot demonstrate the benefit of space exploration for Canadians, obviously Canadians will say why are you doing that?”

The head of Exploration Planning says that’s exactly what the agency is now working on.

Piedboeuf also says he hopes to have a space exploration plan ready by the end of next March.

Snowbird
21st November 2010, 01:44
Correct me if I am wrong, but this appears to be a type of disclosure to begin the process of informing the public of black operations that have been actively a part of the space fleet for decades.

Here in the U.S. they don't disclose like this. They just fly their ships over our cities so that we can take videos.

They claim that they are doing this for Canadians. Do Canadians feel served by this type of hostility preparation?

Just wondering.

Celine
21st November 2010, 02:44
Not by the preparations no..

but by the more "open" acknowledgement yes..

norman
21st November 2010, 04:27
As I read through it I was waiting to come to a part that would suggest Canada would be a region that might be directly under the flight path of incoming Russian or Chinese missiles, meaning it would suffer greatly from interceptions to blow them up before reaching their US targets. I didn't read such a message there at all but might he have been trying to hint around the issue a bit?

Celine
21st November 2010, 04:29
There is alot of oil in the north.. thats all i can think of.. but maybe there is more up there.

Zillah
21st November 2010, 04:44
As I read through it I was waiting to come to a part that would suggest Canada would be a region that might be directly under the flight path of incoming Russian or Chinese missiles, meaning it would suffer greatly from interceptions to blow them up before reaching their US targets. I didn't read such a message there at all but might he have been trying to hint around the issue a bit?

This is not the first time I read/discussed the scenario you paint - it seems Canada has to get involved - kinda like the Monkey in the Middle - we're in the game like it or not.

Celine
21st November 2010, 23:30
The north, is an important component for the futur it seems... good or bad

Luke
22nd November 2010, 09:42
As far As I understand it "Oil in the North" is but cover story (handy lower echelons of Elite though)
For those familiar with earth grids, those regions harbour vortices for most of "solids" .. the abnormal heating and rapid re-melting of ice there are clues to some kind of change going on there .. and If we believe Byrd, those vortices are quite active in linking with "other places".
My hunch is, they are quite concerned with what might come from outer place .. but also interested to get into it if node will become a stable one.
..or I'm going crazy :)

Celine
23rd November 2010, 01:38
Sure doesnt sound crazy to me..

lightseeker
6th December 2010, 09:54
Thank you Celine, for the article about Canada expanding its military role in space. I do not comment very much on this site, but do read a great deal and learn a lot from doing so. The article you presented here is very interesting, Canada is possibly a little behind in when it comes to updating military policies regarding space. I was surprised to see such a candid article as this.
lightseeker

HURRITT ENYETO
6th December 2010, 10:33
What i find frightening about this is the way the weaponisation of space is almost "par for the course" when a few years back nearly everybody was dead against any weapons in space.I dread to think what these weapons will be capable of and if people think they will be used only for defence against missiles etc they are in for a rude awakening.i can easily envision a time when whole city's will be vaporised from space and that's before we start pointing them "outwards"

Scott
6th December 2010, 15:28
I say replace all the Space weapons platforms with Tim Hortons, good coffee is hard to come by in space.
Who knows we might even make some intergalactic friends.
"hmmm think of the lineups at the fly through pick-up window :p"

Celine
6th December 2010, 15:57
I love good coffee... soryy Aztar but Timmies doesnt make coffee... they make dirty water with cream and sugar :P