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Sirus
8th June 2015, 15:24
Hope you enjoy the video below and that it resonates with you as it did with me.
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Depends on the individual persfective ad for me . To have as much fun in this life experience.
drgreig
8th June 2015, 17:40
“Love is the goal, life is the journey.” - Osho
ghostrider
8th June 2015, 17:56
purpose - to learn in the material body and the spirit body , on this side and in the beyond , evolving back to the Creation bringing wisdom, knowledge , love , and beauty back to the Creation , which it/us will use to create more beautiful and complex Universes for infinity ... 60-80 billion years of incarnations to reach half spirit half material being ... ( according to the Plejaren federation) ...
According to Anastasia of Siberia.. it is
"Co-creation, and joy from its contemplation"
Bluegreen
9th June 2015, 02:05
Help others
:flower:
To carry forward an ever-advancing civilization. Towards refinement. (Baha'i teachings)
Carmody
9th June 2015, 12:29
http://www.duaneburnett.com/db13a/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/porpoise_leep-photo_Michelle_McCartney.jpg
(Humanity's 'porpoise'.
To get to the surface of the water, and see, what is above, for the first time. To learn to breathe. To understand that we are 'complex strangers', even here... and to breathe too deeply, or not deep enough, or to dive too deep, is to die here. To jump too high, and to see too far, is to also not be fit to be here, to not be able to fit in, in either space. The thin line between living and dying, between advancing and devolving. To see it as the 2d thin line that it is, infinity stretched out into the interpretation of 3d and time. All along that thin line. To find balance between the in and the out. To breathe from the above, to understand the below. And so on.)
naste.de.lumina
9th June 2015, 14:18
If we did not have the books to record our memories with the positive and negative learned lessons, we would be living in caves.
For me, the planet earth is much more like a criminal Kafka colony where the prisoner is convicted of a crime he did not know he committed.
There is no progress without conscious memories. When there is no memory of what we did and / or learned in aware past existences, these experiences (good and bad) become trends. Almost like instincts. Repeating up indefinitely.
If we do not have memories, an evolution becomes virtually impossible so the goal should be another. The control for example. I think that humans were created with the purpose of being used as rechargeable power batteries.
But this time I do not intend to forget.
http://www.duaneburnett.com/db13a/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/porpoise_leep-photo_Michelle_McCartney.jpg
(Humanity's 'porpoise'.
To get to the surface of the water, and see, what is above, for the first time. To learn to breathe. To understand that we are 'complex strangers', even here... and to breathe too deeply, or not deep enough, or to dive too deep, is to die here. To jump too high, and to see too far, is to also not be fit to be here, to not be able to fit in, in either space. The thin line between living and dying, between advancing and devolving. To see it as the 2d thin line that it is, infinity stretched out into the interpretation of 3d and time. All along that thin line. To find balance between the in and the out. To breathe from the above, to understand the below. And so on.)
Great analogy.
Reminded me of another image, which I got from some website...I believe it was lyricus.com,
about the never ending exploration of dimensions.
Above and below are indicators of the two principal directions for humans, but it doesn't end there.
So what do flying fish or Dolphins know of the trees on the distant mountains,
or the ferns and moss which grow on them?
Total transformation would be needed to explore those parts.
Which is why I never understand people who want to have eternal life in a physical body.
Will they ever know how to fly? Or dive really deep?
Musing here and now...
Troy Martin
9th June 2015, 17:35
I believe if someone were to spit out the exact holy grail of purpose for life no one would recognize it and think it was a good opinion.
OmeyocaN777
10th June 2015, 04:26
......is to bring the "Archons" back to source.....and to find balance in our inner energies so we can be ready for our "next trip" in multiverse.
FraZZleD
10th June 2015, 05:42
From my memories of coming here I remember being happy about coming. I also knew it was going to be the hardest trip so far. That didn't matter to me because spiritual life is forever and living here is like a blink of an eye when your looking at eternity. In the spiritual realm there's nothing but love, happiness, kindness, compassion and learning. But to really learn something you have to experience it. Sure you can read about pain and suffering but until you actually experience it you don't know what it is. Think back when you were little. Think when you were taught fire is hot. I didn't understand hot/pain till I stuck my finger over a candle and felt the heat. That's when I learned about fire.
We're hear to learn and experience all that we can. We're also here to grow spiritually. I knew when I came I might forget why I was here. I set a plan in place to remember which I did. I just couldn't remember the lesson and that turned out to be a good thing it was a very hard lesson that I chose. Had I remembered I might have chickened out. I had to struggle to get myself back on my feet and take the right path also. Those things that we have to struggle for makes us grow and makes us stronger mentally and spiritually.
We will make mistakes along the way, that's our free will at work, but... it's how we handle ourselves through all our trials and our plans that helps us grow. We must experience life and hopefully we are successful. Our other job is to help others through their trials and to grow spiritually. I remember one of the spirits saying they would be here when I needed them and they were. I couldn't have made it through my lesson without the help of that person. Once the lesson was over they were gone getting on with their life.
My mother always said God never gives you more than you can handle. I have to believe that is true because we agree with our life plan before we ever come here. If our plan was not successful it's because of our free will and the wrong choices we make. If we make a wrong choice than our goal is to get back on the correct path. That is the lesson learned that we can pass onto others so they hopefully don't make the same mistakes.
Fill your hearts with love and compassion so you can grow, learn and teach.
If you love something, let it go; If it come back to you it's yours forever. If it doesn't it was never meant to be.
Could this be how the source loves you? Enough to give you your freedom in hopes that you will return?
It could possibly be.........
FraZZleD
Finefeather
10th June 2015, 10:36
(Humanity's 'porpoise'.
To get to the surface of the water, and see, what is above, for the first time. To learn to breathe. To understand that we are 'complex strangers', even here... and to breathe too deeply, or not deep enough, or to dive too deep, is to die here. To jump too high, and to see too far, is to also not be fit to be here, to not be able to fit in, in either space. The thin line between living and dying, between advancing and devolving. To see it as the 2d thin line that it is, infinity stretched out into the interpretation of 3d and time. All along that thin line. To find balance between the in and the out. To breathe from the above, to understand the below. And so on.)
Beautiful Carmody... thanks.
I would just like to add that consciousness growth is the primary goal because it is only through consciousness that we are able to realise the true nature of our being and the absoluteness of our true Self.
Only by realising who we truly are can we begin to see how and why the brotherhood and unity of all beings is a destiny and future which cannot be changed because the very purpose of life is unity and true love.
The only reason that life on earth is filled with pain and destruction right now is simply because of ignorance of the laws of life, and the laws of nature... which can only be realised with consciousness growth.
Life on earth when we are in harmony with the laws... when we know who we are... when we love one another for our differences... is a life in paradise.
Many just do not see the beauty around them because they have created around them a world of separation and walls.
Take care
Ray
ulli
10th June 2015, 11:59
(Humanity's 'porpoise'.
To get to the surface of the water, and see, what is above, for the first time. To learn to breathe. To understand that we are 'complex strangers', even here... and to breathe too deeply, or not deep enough, or to dive too deep, is to die here. To jump too high, and to see too far, is to also not be fit to be here, to not be able to fit in, in either space. The thin line between living and dying, between advancing and devolving. To see it as the 2d thin line that it is, infinity stretched out into the interpretation of 3d and time. All along that thin line. To find balance between the in and the out. To breathe from the above, to understand the below. And so on.)
Beautiful Carmody... thanks.
I would just like to add that consciousness growth is the primary goal because it is only through consciousness that we are able to realise the true nature of our being and the absoluteness of our true Self.
Only by realising who we truly are can we begin to see how and why the brotherhood and unity of all beings is a destiny and future which cannot be changed because the very purpose of life is unity and true love.
The only reason that life on earth is filled with pain and destruction right now is simply because of ignorance of the laws of life, and the laws of nature... which can only be realised with consciousness growth.
Life on earth when we are in harmony with the laws... when we know who we are... when we love one another for our differences... is a life in paradise.
Many just do not see the beauty around them because they have created around them a world of separation and walls.
Take care
Ray
If we really care about each other and future generations then our top priority should be to find the cause of the present decline in consciousness of the masses.
That the "knowledge" coming from their schools is only creating confusion, and that the information coming from the MSM sets them on a path of spiritual destruction.
So we need to find a way to get the best and wisest visionaries into leadership positions.
Children born into a just society will then stand a better chance to develop spiritual qualities and demonstrate them.
I've been struggling with what should come first-
the individual seeking salvation in a messed up world,
or a world where no deliberate lies are presented to the populace and where there is no oppression,
no caste system, and which offers free and equal opportunities for all.
Consciousness is the opposite of sleep.
To wake up requires an alarm clock, which gives one's system a shock.
This shock then raises the LOC. (level of consciousness)
If a society offers only material comforts then sleep is prolonged. If a society is oppressive and people are enslaved, or driven from their homes, they become too traumatized and hopeless to ever set out on a spiritual search of their own.
This is why working on system change seems to me the top priority.
Finefeather
10th June 2015, 12:36
If we really care about each other and future generations then our top priority should be to find the cause of the present decline in consciousness of the masses.
ulli thanks for your post... wise thoughtful words.
I personally do not think that there is a decline in consciousness... I would call it a decline in the growth of consciousness... and maybe that is what you meant...?
I say this because consciousness once attained at some level cannot be lost, but it certainly can be restricted from further growth, by conditions as you have indicated in your post.
In my experience the so called 'knowledge' which is been given out... in the name of truth... is mostly fiction and this has lead to wrong thinking... because this un-reality is been steered by ignorance into a world of illusion.
True knowledge can only come to us via higher sources of intelligence and most people incarnated are not aware of what that means.
Everything we know today has come from higher evolved beings... if you listen to most people today they only say what is known today... they are too busy trying to make sense of a world which is mainly based on illusion and not reality.
This is a subject which cannot easily be discussed because there are so many different ideas out there of what reality is... but there is a reality which is based on truth that is available, right now, to those who are ready for it... in the meantime most will just continue life in the way the masses do... and that is following the leader... and usually the leader knows as little as they do.
With love
Ray
Finefeather
10th June 2015, 13:29
Hope you enjoy the video below and that it resonates with you as it did with me.
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To me this is a perfect example of the illusion that most people live in.
We have people like this who think they know what reality is preaching to others their emotional imaginative fiction.
To the ignorant this sounds like the real thing... simply because they cannot think for themselves yet and so they get trapped in the emotion of the preacher... as it is done in many of the new age 'Christian' churches.
Apart from a few standard cliches which everyone knows and are sure to make them feel as if all else he says is an extension of the truth... and which will surely get them on his side... his story is a fiction based on occult mystical belief.
He is so far from reality that he is incapable of even knowing this at this point in his life... yet he chooses to dish it out to the ignorant, who are like sponges waiting for some revelation which will change their lives, without them having to move a finger.
It is stories like this... by those who think they have some divine gift and truth for the people... that creates the illusion most of us are drifting in today... ignorance is bliss.
Take care
Ray
WhiteLove
10th June 2015, 20:24
Hope you enjoy the video below and that it resonates with you as it did with me.
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To me this is a perfect example of the illusion that most people live in.
We have people like this who think they know what reality is preaching to others their emotional imaginative fiction.
To the ignorant this sounds like the real thing... simply because they cannot think for themselves yet and so they get trapped in the emotion of the preacher... as it is done in many of the new age 'Christian' churches.
Apart from a few standard cliches which everyone knows and are sure to make them feel as if all else he says is an extension of the truth... and which will surely get them on his side... his story is a fiction based on occult mystical belief.
He is so far from reality that he is incapable of even knowing this at this point in his life... yet he chooses to dish it out to the ignorant, who are like sponges waiting for some revelation which will change their lives, without them having to move a finger.
It is stories like this... by those who think they have some divine gift and truth for the people... that creates the illusion most of us are drifting in today... ignorance is bliss.
Take care
Ray
Ray, when you blend into one with your soulmate in unconditional love and God then shows to you what true absolute unconditional love is and you realize, then your current ideas in the above post will surely have no weight. The difference is just the register of experience.
Ray, I've experienced love accelerating up to infinity - literally, it was not false and separated from creation. James has a very important message of love in this video and I appreciate that OP posted it.
Finefeather
10th June 2015, 21:53
Ray, when you blend into one with your soulmate in unconditional love and God then shows to you what true absolute unconditional love is and you realize, then your current ideas in the above post will surely have no weight. The difference is just the register of experience.
Ray, I've experienced love accelerating up to infinity - literally, it was not false and separated from creation. James has a very important message of love in this video and I appreciate that OP posted it.
Whitelove...I am happy that you appreciate the OP post... because it is not my business what you do with your life...my posts are not in any way aimed at trying to convert anyone or lead anyone in any direction... they are there to give my interpretation and experience of life and can be accepted or rejected... as is wished.
So allow me to comment on your reply to my post:
There is actually no such thing as "blend into one with your soulmate" ... we are individual monads/Selves and it is impossible to 'blend' 2 monads into one.
The concept of a soulmate, as presented by you, is a mystical construction... and stating that you have "experienced love accelerating up to infinity" is nothing more than illusion because how would you even know what infinity is when you are still only a human... humans have made up this word, infinity, only because they have no idea of what lies in the distance of space and time... so now you are telling us that you have solved the mystery of infinity...
Infinity is impossible for a human to even imagine... why don't you try it yourself... and if you reach it, it will simply be an imaginative emotional mystical illusion... made by you, to be what you imagine is infinity.
True love does not lead us into darkness... true love leads us into the light of consciousness.
"Absolute unconditional love", as you state, is also a phrase without meaning, in the context with which you are using it, because you think that unconditional is realised when you "blend into one with your soulmate"... this is not unconditional love.
Unconditional love is the love of ALL beings at the same time...not just that of 2 people who might be deeply IN love with each other...without joining in harmony also with the rest.
The word 'unconditional' means that your love is not subject to any conditions...so why would you need a soulmate to realise this when there are billions of 'souls' out there whom you should be loving if you have realised unconditional love?
Brotherhood and unity is the goal of humans...and unity does not mean we must find a soulmate and blend...it has no place for individual separation.
Of course there is nothing wrong with 2 people loving each other but you have got to ask yourself...if you really know about true love..."why do I not love others as I love my 'soulmate'?" and then if you do... then whats the big hype about one soulmate when their are these billions of 'souls' who all love each other equally?
The answer is simply that most people do not know what love is...and it certainly is not the emotional love that 2 people have for each other...even if it might feel like the greatest thing you have experienced so far in your life.
Sooner or later the two lovers must reach out to others in their quest for harmony and unity in a collective world were unconditional means unconditional.
With regard to the message in the OP video...as I have stated before...I find it to be a message with no truth because I have realised in my experience that what he is giving out is nothing but fiction... because he has no idea what reality is.
It sounds good and many will be fooled by the emotion it gathers in their hearts but it will lead only to despair when the emotions have been calmed.
My advice is to accept it if you want to and leave others who might want to reject it...is it not possible that there is another real answer just waiting for you to find?
Take care and my love
Ray
greybeard
10th June 2015, 23:06
What Ray says is so regarding humans ability to see and experience infinity.
In this video, which does have some background noise, Mooji points out that phenomenon can only see phenomenon.
We in the unenlightened state are incapable of seeing beyond phenomenon.
On seeing a light in meditation the mind claims specialness--"I have seen the Divine" not true, the mind produced the light.
Mooji explains this directly and clearly.
My understanding is that humans are here to discover what their true identity is, the Self--The One without a second---you are that.
There is no place that the Creator is not--omnipresent--within everything is the Divine, that is your very essence.
Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6fbT4vKGp0
Carmody
10th June 2015, 23:13
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Davidallany
11th June 2015, 00:07
Maybe for spare parts, or maybe for a greater purpose like reshaping the universe, or both. I could be in error though.
Guish
11th June 2015, 17:32
Ray, when you blend into one with your soulmate in unconditional love and God then shows to you what true absolute unconditional love is and you realize, then your current ideas in the above post will surely have no weight. The difference is just the register of experience.
Ray, I've experienced love accelerating up to infinity - literally, it was not false and separated from creation. James has a very important message of love in this video and I appreciate that OP posted it.
Whitelove...I am happy that you appreciate the OP post... because it is not my business what you do with your life...my posts are not in any way aimed at trying to convert anyone or lead anyone in any direction... they are there to give my interpretation and experience of life and can be accepted or rejected... as is wished.
So allow me to comment on your reply to my post:
There is actually no such thing as "blend into one with your soulmate" ... we are individual monads/Selves and it is impossible to 'blend' 2 monads into one.
The concept of a soulmate, as presented by you, is a mystical construction... and stating that you have "experienced love accelerating up to infinity" is nothing more than illusion because how would you even know what infinity is when you are still only a human... humans have made up this word, infinity, only because they have no idea of what lies in the distance of space and time... so now you are telling us that you have solved the mystery of infinity...
Infinity is impossible for a human to even imagine... why don't you try it yourself... and if you reach it, it will simply be an imaginative emotional mystical illusion... made by you, to be what you imagine is infinity.
True love does not lead us into darkness... true love leads us into the light of consciousness.
"Absolute unconditional love", as you state, is also a phrase without meaning, in the context with which you are using it, because you think that unconditional is realised when you "blend into one with your soulmate"... this is not unconditional love.
Unconditional love is the love of ALL beings at the same time...not just that of 2 people who might be deeply IN love with each other...without joining in harmony also with the rest.
The word 'unconditional' means that your love is not subject to any conditions...so why would you need a soulmate to realise this when there are billions of 'souls' out there whom you should be loving if you have realised unconditional love?
Brotherhood and unity is the goal of humans...and unity does not mean we must find a soulmate and blend...it has no place for individual separation.
Of course there is nothing wrong with 2 people loving each other but you have got to ask yourself...if you really know about true love..."why do I not love others as I love my 'soulmate'?" and then if you do... then whats the big hype about one soulmate when their are these billions of 'souls' who all love each other equally?
The answer is simply that most people do not know what love is...and it certainly is not the emotional love that 2 people have for each other...even if it might feel like the greatest thing you have experienced so far in your life.
Sooner or later the two lovers must reach out to others in their quest for harmony and unity in a collective world were unconditional means unconditional.
With regard to the message in the OP video...as I have stated before...I find it to be a message with no truth because I have realised in my experience that what he is giving out is nothing but fiction... because he has no idea what reality is.
It sounds good and many will be fooled by the emotion it gathers in their hearts but it will lead only to despair when the emotions have been calmed.
My advice is to accept it if you want to and leave others who might want to reject it...is it not possible that there is another real answer just waiting for you to find?
Take care and my love
Ray
That's a very interesting thing you are saying here brother. My first experience of it happened at university. I'd help a classmate finish her project for hours without even thinking about mine. It happened naturally. One of the signs of spiritual progress is natural compassion and love towards everything. Buddha said that it's not wise to consider anyone our own in this vast universe. Love and set it free.
Finefeather
11th June 2015, 18:59
Buddha said that it's not wise to consider anyone our own in this vast universe. Love and set it free.
Yes quite so...and the reason is because we are each individual Selves who will... during our evolution and growth... billions of years... make our own choices in which direction we want to proceed with our lives... because once we finish with the human kingdom there is still a long way to go.
It is easy to think... and many a couple, in love have said it to each other..."I will love you for the rest of my life"...but what life?
Maybe it won't happen during this life... and there are even those 'souls' who make every effort to incarnate in the same time frame as each other in order to be together...but some time in the future decisions will come our way as to which path we will take... and although it is not impossible that two 'souls' will travel the same path... we cannot influence each other in any way... else we would be violating the laws of self determination and free will.
Now unity is a completely different thing than what humans call love... because human love is emotionally based...causal love is unity based.
Unity is realised when we are so similar to one another that we can actually experience, for ourselves, what it is like to be the other person... but don't get trapped by what might seem like a simple thing... which a lot of people think they experience when they are very close to their lover...
Causal love is love for all humanity... irrespective of who that person might be or what that person might have done in his/her life. It is a realisation that we are all on the same path of consciousness growth... with the same potential...and the same problems to overcome. Murderer today, creator tomorrow.
We find a similar love between close friends and relatives... but once again this is not the same because this is just the connection these people have with each other... in the emotional world... when they are discarnate.
Unity and true love requires Causal consciousness.
Take care dear friend
Ray
Guish
12th June 2015, 17:58
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Rich
12th June 2015, 20:34
What I find fascinating is how did this concept of being a human even come about, where did life get this idea from?
To ask the question ''What's the purpose of humanity?'' many concepts already have to be in place that may not have been questioned at all.
Sirus
14th June 2015, 11:32
What I find fascinating is how did this concept of being a human even come about, where did life get this idea from?
In an infinite universe, I guess every thing that can be expressed will be. Perhaps the question should be; how could the human form not exist?
Guish
14th June 2015, 12:47
Even being human loses importance as consciousness rises. How would one define being a human though? WE are all living with concepts, interpretations and hypotheses.
Rich
14th June 2015, 13:27
Well if we don't know human then how can we determine a purpose?
AwakeInADream
17th June 2015, 03:13
The video lacks knowledge, but bursts in words and the logical combination of them. Cute kid, I hope he finds what he's looking for, but I hope he doesn't impose his machinations on too many other people before he does. Whilst on the road to wisdom, your true friend, one must learn, is silence. Speak when you've arrived by all means.
Guish
17th June 2015, 15:51
The video lacks knowledge, but bursts in words and the logical combination of them. Cute kid, I hope he finds what he's looking for, but I hope he doesn't impose his machinations on too many other people before he does. Whilst on the road to wisdom, your true friend, one must learn, is silence. Speak when you've arrived by all means.
Very true. "Those who know do not tell". Buddha spoke very little but his words were very powerful because they came from a high level of consciousness. The spirit doesn't need to convince anyone. It just does it.
I've been thinking a lot about this issue lately. While I have studied metaphysics for many years, I have yet to hear an explanation that really holds up under scrutiny.
From what I gather, we apparently "fell" from perfection in God and somehow wound up on psycho planet. We supposedly have a perfect soul which is imprisoned in an imperfect body. We have no memory of the past beyond our birth, yet we have had thousands of incarnations.
In order to "free" ourselves from this mess, we need to evolve spiritually beyond the consciousness of duality. There's much more to it, but that's the basic theory.
I have never had anyone explain to me why a perfect soul has to evolve in the first place. What's the point? I have also never heard a satisfactory explanation as to why we "fell". Did we strike out on our own for some reason? If so, where could we go? There is somewhere that is not part of the creator. If we were perfect, and with all knowledge at the time of departure, we would have known that.
Did we volunteer for this duty? Why are we not supposed to know?
Why is it so hard to get back home? Do I really have free will if my release is conditional with regard to my level of consciousness?
Chris Thomas's explanation of this as a big experiment holds about as much water as any of them. I could buy that, but who's to know for sure.
Any insights out there...?
Finefeather
17th July 2015, 11:38
From what I gather, we apparently "fell" from perfection in God and somehow wound up on psycho planet.
There is no such thing...the 'fall' is just a misinterpretation of involution...incarnating into bodies at a lower level than that which we come from.
We supposedly have a perfect soul which is imprisoned in an imperfect body.
We are far from perfect that's why we are in an imperfect body and our job is to refine it and ourselves.
We have no memory of the past beyond our birth, yet we have had thousands of incarnations.
Some people do have memories of their past life in the early stages of their life...Everytime we incarnate we get a new set of envelopes...sort of clean slate except for our characters and some baggage which follows us around until we sort it out.
In order to "free" ourselves from this mess, we need to evolve spiritually beyond the consciousness of duality. There's much more to it, but that's the basic theory.
You got it 100% right.
I have never had anyone explain to me why a perfect soul has to evolve in the first place. What's the point?
We are far from perfect...trust me...think of all the bad things we get up to...is that a sign of a perfect soul?
I have also never heard a satisfactory explanation as to why we "fell". Did we strike out on our own for some reason?
The 'fall' is a misinterpretation of what is know as involution. Involution is too complicated for me to explain on a post...but it is now...in our human phase...simply another word for incarnation...when we incarnate we 'fall' from a higher world(Causal) to a lower world(Physical)
If so, where could we go? There is somewhere that is not part of the creator.
We can't go anywhere...especially seen that we are so ignorant of life...maybe we just got lost...but don't worry we're slowly finding our way back home.
If we were perfect, and with all knowledge at the time of departure, we would have known that.
We are far from perfect...and you are mistaking our limited knowledge for genius...If we were so perfect how come we still eat other people and kill those who don't think the same.
Did we volunteer for this duty?
You depend on doing your duty...for your own good and those around you.
Why are we not supposed to know?
We can know as soon as we stop wasting time by perpetuating all the fiction in the world...acting like barbarians... and generally been too selfish and self oriented...there are those who know as well.
Why is it so hard to get back home?
It is very simple...just throw yourself over a cliff or get yourself run over by a truck...and if you take the short cut and skip the white light...you'll be right there. :)
Do I really have free will if my release is conditional with regard to my level of consciousness?
Yes you have free will up to a point...and so does everyone else...so it would be obvious that our free will should not impose on the free will of others, else we would be violating the other peoples right to self determination.
Take care
Ray
Baby Steps
17th July 2015, 12:02
Its worth saying that the best way to find out who you really are is to experience WHO YOU ARE NOT
This reality is replete with such illusion.
God bless
Thanks for your thoughtful answers Ray. I have a pretty good grip on what happened, I just don't know why. Perhaps I'm just looking for an intellectual excuse to care about this whole mess.
It is very simple...just throw yourself over a cliff or get yourself run over by a truck...and if you take the short cut and skip the white light...you'll be right there. I've contemplated this option more than a few times, but it can't be that easy! Besides, the carnage left behind is unacceptable.
I have this little voice in my head that regularly tells me that I need the get the ###k out of here. I guess I need to start becoming more proactive in that regard.
Thanks again.
I find it really interesting that in all of these beautiful posts, not one mentioned anything about humans as they relate to all other creatures or the planet we live on. If I missed one that dealt with these things I apologize. Perhaps our purpose is to realize that we are a part of the whole, that our destiny is to intermingled with all things in a respectful way. Maybe our purpose is to realize that the end doesn't always justify the means. Maybe we are here to realize all life comes forth from the same force, and the lifeforce that animates me, animates all living things. Maybe our purpose is to understand, to really understand, that everything is connected, that we really are one and to behave accordingly.
Meggings
17th July 2015, 19:48
Why do you partake in this creation that is so full of craziness, of wonder, of strangeness? Why do you come?
You come to be, and as you be, you may claim the truth of who you are. The truth of who you are, and who all men are, is the Divine self that seeks expression in every aspect of your life. And you must underline those words, in every aspect of your life. You go to the church, you go to the altar, you leave the church, you forget what was there. That was all well and good, but the fact of the matter is your church is your life. And your creations, all those things you have made and attended to, are all around you. Your consciousness is your prayer.
What prayer is, is thought that is activated and calling into manifestation in all ways the life you see.
Brightstar
20th July 2015, 12:30
Humanity's purpose? To give and receive love, understand the heart knows things the mind can only dream of, to respect the planet and keep evolving....simple really!!
WOW my first post! Great to share with you all....
Guish
20th July 2015, 16:56
A boat docked in a tiny Mexican village. An American tourist complimented the Mexican fisherman on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took him to catch them.
“Not very long,” answered the Mexican.
“But then, why didn’t you stay out longer and catch more?” asked the American.
The Mexican explained that his small catch was sufficient to meet his needs and those of his family.
The American asked, “But what do you do with the rest of your time?”
“I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, and take a siesta with my wife. In the evenings, I go into the village to see my friends, have a few drinks, play the guitar, and sing a few songs. I have a full life.”
The American interrupted, “I have an MBA from Harvard and I can help you! You should start by fishing longer every day. You can then sell the extra fish you catch. With the extra revenue, you can buy a bigger boat.”
“And after that?” asked the Mexican.
“With the extra money the larger boat will bring, you can buy a second one and a third one and so on until you have an entire fleet of trawlers. Instead of selling your fish to a middle man, you can then negotiate directly with the processing plants and maybe even open your own plant. You can then leave this little village and move to Mexico City, Los Angeles, or even New York City! From there you can direct your huge new enterprise.”
“How long would that take?” asked the Mexican.
“Twenty, perhaps twenty-five years,” replied the American.
“And after that?”
“Afterwards? Well my friend, that’s when it gets really interesting,” answered the American, laughing. “When your business gets really big, you can start buying and selling stocks and make millions!”
“Millions? Really? And after that?” asked the Mexican.
“After that you’ll be able to retire, live in a tiny village near the coast, sleep late, play with your children, catch a few fish, take a siesta with your wife and spend your evenings drinking and enjoying your friends.”
Selkie
23rd July 2015, 15:40
To be ourselves as self-aware companions of the Goddess.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s017IcJB6-Q
GloriousPoetry
26th July 2015, 19:27
To learn how to manipulate energy......and open doors of higher spiritual knowledge.
Aspen
26th July 2015, 22:24
helping each other and ourselves out of the trap we currently find ourselves in on Earth. After that, I don't know. . . . suspect it has to do with spiritual development and rediscovering our true identity.
Carmen
26th July 2015, 23:30
To me our purpose here is to 'wake up', realise we are the 'gods' and get on with the business of creating, playing, experiencing, learning (ever learning), growing, realising our potential, evolving back to source loaded with experience, wisdom and great love.
I'm sure as hell not going to be caught this time in 'the light'!!! What a clever crock of **** that is!! Recycled ignorance! Visible light is quite low on the spectrum of energy! Those light beings sit there manipulating emotionally immature humans to feed off of. When we finally die, we are stripped in the light and sent back down again as helpless babes having to relearn everything and do it all over again!! And how strong is the conditioning!
"Go to the light"
"Dance in the Light"
"Darkness is evil"
"Heaven (light) Darkness (evil)
These ideas/beliefs are so ingrained in us, most people don't even question them.
The Void, Divine Intelligence, (call it what you will) the source of all, created both darkness and light, so is both and neither.
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