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Ruby
15th June 2015, 03:33
The University of Arizona, together with the Vatican and Jesuit Order, announced that it named its newest high-powered telescopic instrument ‘Lucifer’.

Some people are now shaking their heads, wondering why the Vatican would have its own stellar observatory and why they would have the audacity to name a new telescope after the Devil himself. The telescope is named “Lucifer.”

"There has been a great deal of speculation, among Vatican critics, why in the first place the Jesuit Order was allowed to build a huge stellar observatory on Mt. Graham in Arizona – on holy Indian ground – in cooperation with the state-run University of Arizona."

Planet X? um..Okay... me thinks they are hoping their alien gods/masters are coming with reinforcements.

I would be interested in other ideas. What do you think?

Harley
15th June 2015, 05:06
Hi Ruby. Welcome to Project Avalon! :)

In reference to the telescope being named "Lucifer", read this statement from the VATICAN OBSERVATORY (http://vaticanobservatory.org/vo-news/news-archive/98-news-archive/vatican-lucifer/515-vatican-lucifer):

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Vatican and Lucifer
10 October 2012

There was another strange phone call today. Somebody was apparently just recently hurt by a misinformation which has been circulating on the web for two or three years. This calumny claims that the Vatican astronomers named some instrument or telescope "Lucifer".

It is fairly clearly a typical case of degradation of information. The truth of the matter is that the Vatican Observatory is a member of the Mount Graham International Observatory (MGIO) consortium, together with a number of other institutions from Europe and the USA. The MGIO comprises a large number of stake holders, most of whom have nothing to do with the Vatican Observatory or its telescope.

How does this work? It is quite similar to share holders in a company. Supposing you had a six percent share in a company, while Mr XYZ had a four percent share. What could you do if Mr XYZ decided to name his pet hamster "Demon"?

One of the stake holders in the MGIO is a group of European institutes who built an infrared camera and spectroscope, and named it "Lucifer". So what happened? First, somebody reported that an instrument called "Lucifer" was installed on Mt Graham. Then somebody remarked that Mt Graham also hosts the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope, and that it is somewhat amusing that Mt Graham has both Vatican and Lucifer. Then the information somehow degraded and the slur was born: Vatican astronomers are supposedly friends with Lucifer...
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As to why the Vatican is searching the stars, well, they've already basically acknowledged the existence of our ET brothers and sisters and are looking to welcome them.

:)

p.s. The Vatican telescope has been on Mount Graham for over 22 years (1993).

t2016
15th June 2015, 06:33
The following thread may be the reason.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82268-Pope-Francis-Declares-Lucifer-As-God

Ruby
15th June 2015, 06:37
Here is something else I found on the subject. I was a bit annoyed by the way the website forced me to listen to their loud ad before I could access the data, and I could not click out of it, but I found this interesting.

"Two evangelical authors are set to release a book which claims that Jesuit astronomers at a Vatican-owned observatory in Arizona are using their telescope and another one called LUCIFER to search for extra-terrestrial life.

What is even more astonishing is that the two authors, Tom Horn and Chris Putnam, say in their book that the Vatican is awaiting an alien savior.

The claims in the book, called "Exo-Vaticana: Petrus Romanus, Project LUCIFER, and the Vatican's astonishing plan for the arrival of an alien savior" are the result of research the two authors conducted at the Mount Graham International Observatory.

Although Lucifer in the Bible is associated with Satan, the word has its origins in Hebrew akin to light.

The researcher also examined Vatican records.

While their claims seem too difficult to believe, Horn and Putnam have backed up their research with primary sources.

They are currently discussing their findings with the media.

On April 1 they appeared on the show of American Messianic Jew Sid Roth, where Putnam revealed what they have uncovered in their research.

"The records in the Vatican go back centuries," said Putnam, who is a theologian. "I read two chapters of history concerning the Vatican's interest in extra-terrestrials."

"They have a whole theology developed around what they call the Principle of Plentitude, meaning anything God could do he would do," said Putnam.

"So they consider the existence of aliens the inevitable consequence of God's omnipotence."

Horn and Putnam were granted permission to visit the observatory on Mount Graham, which hosts the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT), in September 2012.

Not only were they able to discuss the study of deep space with the Jesuit astronomers there, but they also gained access to one the top Vatican astronomers in Rome.

Horn said Brother Guy Consolmagno, who has also been called the papal astronomer, told the authors some astounding information during five interviews.

"He says without apology that very soon the nations of the world are going to look to the aliens for their salvation", said Horn.

Consomagno also gave the authors private Vatican documents which reveal much of the thinking of high-level theologians and astronomers within the Church.

Horn said these documents show that they believe that we are soon to be visited by an alien savior from another world.

To conduct their research, Vatican astronomers are using a German-owned telescope at the Mount Graham International Observatory which uses the acronym LUCIFER to shorten a very long name.

The Large Binocular Telescope (LBT) has an infrared camera and spectroscope.

Putnam said it is as powerful as the Hubble Telescope.

Vatican research of the heavens dates back to the late 16th century when the Church conducted studies to reform the Julian calendar.

Before it established the VATT on Mount Graham in 1987, the Vatican had built several observatories around Rome since the 1500s.

Putnam and Horn previously published a best-selling book in 2012 predicting the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI and the coming of a final pope preceding the second coming of Jesus."

Sirius White
15th June 2015, 22:06
They track many things, anomalous they know of.

But one of its primary functions, like SELIO was to track P-X, or the Incoming.

ghostrider
15th June 2015, 23:04
Lucifer does mean Light bearer ... the next telescope they will build will be named planet seeker ...

DNA
15th June 2015, 23:43
For those familiar with the skinwalker ranch work, Mt. Graham which is just outside of Safford Az shares many characteristics.
Mt. Graham is host to quite a bit of UFO activity, Bigfoot sightings and I think there is s reptilian story our two.
The Vatican observatory has more technology at its disposal than mere optical lenses. There is a very sophisticated upgrade the facility recently went through.
The observatory is using a lot of electronics and looking for more energetic heavenly signs than mere visual.

Given the location, I'm not convinced the observatory is looking at outer space, I have a suspicion the observatory is attempting to view phenomenon associated with portals and portal activity.

DNA
16th June 2015, 01:33
Bill and Kerry interviewed Leo Zagami back in the day.
Back then I thought Leo was a little nuts when he stated that the reason the Jesuits were on Mt. Graham had to do with taking advantage of the energy specific to that mountain and in so doing, they were summoning demons.

Part of me now wonder if in fact there is some truth to this.
Is there a natural star gate on Mt. Graham?
Are the technological upgrades that have recently taken place a method for locating and affecting the natural phenomenon?

Ruby
16th June 2015, 03:36
For those familiar with the skinwalker ranch work, Mt. Graham which is just outside of Safford Az shares many characteristics.
Mt. Graham is host to quite a bit of UFO activity, Bigfoot sightings and I think there is s reptilian story our two.
The Vatican observatory has more technology at its disposal than mere optical lenses. There is a very sophisticated upgrade the facility recently went through.
The observatory is using a lot of electronics and looking for more energetic heavenly signs than mere visual.

Given the location, I'm not convinced the observatory is looking at outer space, I have a suspicion the observatory is attempting to view phenomenon associated with portals and portal activity.

That makes a lot more sense given that the beings here that are exerting control on this earth are more extra dimensional beings or Archons (djinn) than extraterrestrial travelers like the tall whites. I have read the book "Hunt for the skinwalker" Which was about the real scientific study at Skinwalker ranch. I found it extremely interesting but disappointing in that they never did solve the mystery. I believe there were portals opening up at the Skin Walker Ranch all the time, that let in creatures in from the 4th dimension and creatures like the prehistoric Dire wolf, (a huge extinct wolf) and big foot and other creatures from the past and orbs from the fourth dimension. The fact that digging in the ground was "forbidden" to the prior owners was interesting, and the sounds coming from the ground like there was an underground facility of some kind being heard.

Now, there is another bit of information I think I got from Simon Parkes about the Cern Collider, which was not really looking for the "God particle" but instead was trying to reopen or keep open a portal for Draconian or reptilian reinforcements, but it broke down. They are now trying to build a bigger and better one in Japan. Apparently Japan volunteered to build it because they knew that the controllers wanted to sink Japan having seen a future time line where they were doing much better in a future where Japan had sank into the ocean. Perhaps this is why there was a nuclear explosion under Japan that cause the power plants to melt down. Also recently Japan had a very deep 8 point earthquake. Maybe (my own speculation) they decided to look for alternative portals so they could sink Japan. They wanted Japan to pay the expenses for building the collider, but Japan said they needed money given to them... and lots of it to do that. The controllers, being greedy, may be looking for an alternative portal that won't need a collider.

Ruby
16th June 2015, 03:50
From what I am hearing from several sources, mostly Simon Parks, 4th dimensional portals will be closing up and time is running out and the controllers are about 15 years behind schedule to have installed a new world order, which would involve a cashless society, and chips in everyone for buying and selling. That was supposed to have been accomplished by now. The return of their masters (who believe they are the owners of the earth) is dependent on this being accomplished because these Archons have no power against fully awaken and evolved humans, and neither does the draconian technology. Simon puts a date on the deadline to be 2017. Others say that or 2020 for certain.

jagman
16th June 2015, 04:29
I spoke to co-author of Petrus Romanus Chris Putnam last year after he and Tom Horn were
granted permission to visit Mount graham observatory where the telescope is, and he told me
that the vatican astronomers told them that there is many things flying around up in space
that are clearly not man made.

Ruby
16th June 2015, 06:36
I spoke to co-author of Petrus Romanus Chris Putnam last year after he and Tom Horn were
granted permission to visit Mount graham observatory where the telescope is, and he told me
that the vatican astronomers told them that there is many things flying around up in space
that are clearly not man made.

That's not too surprising, I think if I had the most powerful telescope in the world I would see many things flying around up in space too. My impression and/or thought however, is that the ships entering our spacetime at this point are enormous and are from the future. How much they will actually interfere with the affairs of humankind is unknown. We, as humans must assert ourselves and put a stop to those who are ruling us with tyranny. We have amazing technology to improve our civilization and the controllers (the draconians) are keeping it from us and keeping it for themselves to keep us in slavery. Our governments are controlled by a very few number of people/creatures. Human beings need to stop cooperating with them. If these "new kids on the block" came here from the future to stop the cancer of tyranny spreading throughout the multiverse and in some way help humanity awaken and take back their home, I am looking for something significant to happen in the next two years.

I have heard two different takes on this idea, and one is that no one is going to come here to save this planet and that we must do it ourselves, and the other take is that extra dimensional entities from the higher dimensions are here to help or some way stop the cancer that begins here on this planet and can spread throughout the multiverse. (This came from Simon Parkes latest video.) These higher entities don't necessarily care that much about humanity here on earth, but they are here to stop this cancer from spreading. The thought that crossed my mind was that they could just easily destroy the earth and the problem would be solved. (After all, that is how humans attack cancer in the human body with radiation. They kill more healthy cells than they kill cancer cells.) Simon believes they won't or don't want to do that. Humans have been altered and our DNA has been messed with. We deserve a chance to awaken and make it on our own. I personally think that failing that, the other option is that the earth could be destroyed in a flash.

Bubu
16th June 2015, 11:37
Interesting i have a cousin also named simon.. he has a degree in theology . I visited him about two months ago for several days he was working like posses on somerhing in his whiteboard then he finally came up with a prediction that turbulent times on earth r s
Omething like that will start on september 2017. Because acvording to him the number 7 means completion. Maybe he was wrong that its about turbulent time but it could be the a point of importance.. deadline or beginning. I will ask him to post his findings here on avalon.

Ruby
16th June 2015, 15:10
Interesting i have a cousin also named simon.. he has a degree in theology . I visited him about two months ago for several days he was working like posses on somerhing in his whiteboard then he finally came up with a prediction that turbulent times on earth r s
Omething like that will start on september 2017. Because acvording to him the number 7 means completion. Maybe he was wrong that its about turbulent time but it could be the a point of importance.. deadline or beginning. I will ask him to post his findings here on avalon.


September seems to be the date that keeps popping up. So far I have of course heard about the alleged asteroid that is supposed to hit the earth around the 23rd, but I have also heard that is not going to happen and I don't think it will. I also stumbled across a report of future events that claim that world war III will start in September. If anyone wants to read this war scenario it is on http://future.wikia.com/wiki/Scenario:_World_War_III_(Obama_vs._Putin). I don't know who wrote this.

Of course the number 7 meaning "completion" may mean be something else altogether. But I think "turbulent" times is a good way to describe it. Something HAS to happen to help wake people up. It may well be a financial collapse and/or the disclosure of aliens and their agenda. Some think large extra dimensional ships may begin revealing their presence if America does not come clean and tell the truth.

Recently all the stuff I have been learning has changed my perception of the world. I've gone from "maybe aliens exist" to being pretty sure that they do. Then of course there is a tiny doubt about all of this that says I've finally slipped completely into La La land.