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Ruby
19th June 2015, 03:40
Source: Simon Parkes, and others..

He explained in one of his interviews that Extraterrestrials and Extra-dimentional entities are different in that an Extraterrestrial actually flies through our 3D space in a ship to get here, and Extra-dimensional entities travel through dimensional portals. Here is an example or two:

The tall whites, are extraterrestrials and it took them about 20 years to get here flying faster than the speed of light. (Yes its possible). The Archons, are caught between the third and forth dimension and greys, draconians, Mantids, etc. are 4th dimensional entities and need portals to travel and into our spacetime.

Pleiadians, from what I gather, are humanoids from the 5th dimension, and Andromedians are from the 6th dimension. The information I have found about the Pleidians is that they claim to be here to help us evolve/awaken.

The Andromedians are here (from 400 years in the future) to see to it that the cancer of negative creatures who want to control and enslave humankind, (like the Draconians, Reptilians, Greys, Mantids or other 4th dimensional entities,) does not spread throughout the multiverse.

The way I am understanding dimensional entities is that they are not bound by our spacetime and therefore they are mostly from the future in relation to our perception of time.

I seem to have taken up the hobby recently of reading about these different entities and find it fascinating. There are many more but so far I think these are some of the main players.

robinr1
19th June 2015, 04:19
very interesting..thanks

Becky
19th June 2015, 07:17
Hi Ruby, Simon calls the entities that are stuck between 3rd and 4th dimensions the djinn - did you interpret this as the archons?

Ruby
19th June 2015, 07:17
Wow I just watched two videos with Chris Thomas and I believe I got the link to his videos from here but don't remember what thread. The things he says really resonated with me, so I ordered 5 of his books. He confirms what I have been hearing from other sources that the greys and Draconian energetic entities have been evicted off the planet and the black holes which are the portals they came through are closing and disappearing. (They will not be bringing in reinforcements.) He also confirms what I heard from other sources that those entities were NOT from this universe which is a universe of free will. Those energies had the energetic power to remove free will. I hadn't heard that anywhere before. Chris Thomas has direct access to the Akashic records and his books are about the Velon and how they are behind the Illuminati and why they try so hard to prevent humans from waking up and gaining back their entire soul and soul memories. If anyone is interested in this here is the link.

P.S. Other information is that some of the Reptilian (Draconian) entities are still here, but their portals (black holes) are closing and their reinforcements are being kept out of the universe. I didn't realize that portals and black holes were basically the same thing, interesting...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-RSwTihJQ0

Ruby
19th June 2015, 07:23
Hi Ruby, Simon calls the entities that are stuck between 3rd and 4th dimensions the djinn - did you interpret this as the archons?

Yes I have heard that the names djinn and archons are different names for the same entities. I suspect that there are variations within that group. I have heard them called or confused with elementals too. These may be energies that are created by the planet earth.

Becky
19th June 2015, 08:31
Hi Ruby, Simon calls the entities that are stuck between 3rd and 4th dimensions the djinn - did you interpret this as the archons?

Yes I have heard that the names djinn and archons are different names for the same entities. I suspect that there are variations within that group. I have heard them called or confused with elementals too. These may be energies that are created by the planet earth.

Hi Ruby, in my understanding, the velon and djinn are different entities because Chris Thomas describe the velon as having huge ships which they live in and travel around in, so this makes them very different to the djinn which don't have ships and seem to be trapped between dimensions unless called up into the 3rd D or maybe into the 4th too.
I'm not exactly sure what the velon are as they don't seem to be the reptilians or at least not draconis reptilians. Have you read the Wes Penre papers? They are a fascinating read. I've only read levels 1 and 2 so far but aim to read the rest as they are an incredible source of info. Maybe the archons are the Sirian Overlords as Wes describes, which do have close links to the draconis reptilians but seem to be 'higher up' in a more negative and controlling way, not in a spiritual way - they are certainly extremely service to self. Fascinating stuff!
The elementals in my understanding are closely connected to mother earth and help regulate and nurture nature and natural earth energies.on and within mother earth.

Becky
19th June 2015, 08:38
And just to add, Chris says the greys and draconis are banished from earth, but I'm really not sure at all about this as they have close links with the military and seem to be closely involved with ongoing milabs abductions which people are still reporting to be experiencing...

Ruby
19th June 2015, 08:55
I'm not exactly sure what the velon are as they don't seem to be the reptilians or at least not draconis reptilians.

The Velon are basically the Anunnaki and they are the aliens who are behind the Illuminati here on the earth. Apparently they have only been here for about 300 years but they have the ability to travel back in time according to Chris Thomas, and planted the fake story about being the creators of humans, which they are not. You can hear that story here from Chris:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zf7scVDQ1g

If what Chris is saying is true, it shoots a big hole in the story of the Return of Planet X -- which is what I had been looking into today and came across this guy. I find his story extremely interesting. I would have poo pooed it a few years back when I did not believe time travel was even possible, but I have been convinced that time travel is possible as is traveling through portals, worm holes, black holes etc... The universe is ALIVE!

Yes the Velon and the djinn are different entities. It was the Archons and the djinn what were refered to by Simon as basically the same thing by a different name given them by two different cultures here.

Becky
19th June 2015, 09:03
Ah, Yes I get the velon and archons mixed up in my mind! If the velon are the annunaki, then that does make them the sirian overlords as Wes Penre describes them in detail.
I can't reconcile Chris's description of the earth's history with Wes Penres nor Simons description of human/earth history. Simon's verson correlates pretty closely to the Wes Penre papers although I believe he hasn't read them. I guess the best we can do is as much research as we can and also searching our higher self for answers. To many this may not matter, but it is certainly something I wish to understand far better.

Ruby
19th June 2015, 09:06
And just to add, Chris says the greys and draconis are banished from earth, but I'm really not sure at all about this as they have close links with the military and seem to be closely involved with ongoing milabs abductions which people are still reporting to be experiencing...

Yes I believe there still may be some greys and draconis here on earth, but not many. According to Randy, a super soldier who served 17 years on mars, most of the greys have been sent back through the portals and the "clean up" is still on going. There may be a few draconis left but they are probably going to be going underground or leaving soon as the black holes are all closing up. The CERN collider was supposed to keep the portal open but it failed, and it looks like they are not going to get the new one build in Japan in time.

In time for what you might ask. In time for the humans to transform by bringing down their whole soul into the body. (Chris said that) or pull down the rest of their DNA (Simon Parkes). So humans are NOT ascending to another dimension. They will remain with the earth. The Velon want to get rid of the humans so they can have this planet for themselves. Not going to happen!

Becky
19th June 2015, 09:09
And Steve Richards, the Holographic Kinetic's guy who learnt his info from ancient aboriginal law, his understanding of earth and human history is much more along the lines of Wes Penre and Simon's as well...

Ruby
19th June 2015, 09:19
Ah, Yes I get the velon and archons mixed up in my mind! If the velon are the annunaki, then that does make them the sirian overlords as Wes Penre describes them in detail.
I can't reconcile Chris's description of the earth's history with Wes Penres nor Simons description of human/earth history. Simon's verson correlates pretty closely to the Wes Penre papers although I believe he hasn't read them. I guess the best we can do is as much research as we can and also searching our higher self for answers. To many this may not matter, but it is certainly something I wish to understand far better.

As much as I like Simon Parkes, and I think he is sincere, but he does not have direct access to the records as Chris does. His information comes only from what people and aliens (Mantids and Draconis) have told him. They are 4th dimensional entities who are not even from this universe of free will. Given that they come from a different universe which can take away free will, they may have imparted information to Simon that is not completely true. Simon has chosen to help humanity. His Mandid mother has her(or his) own agenda, and I have not worked out what that is. She told Simon that if they "fail" then "all is lost." That struck me as meaning all is lost not for humanity but for the Mantids. I know that the draconis, and perhaps the Mantids have their own religion and belief structure and Simon mentioned that they might be wanting to "piggy back" on the human ascension of humans.... but guess what, that has to do with the soul, and Chris says that human beings soul has 50 dimensions. The aliens don't quite understand. This is what I got from it.

Ruby
19th June 2015, 09:26
In short, what I got from this was that humans are not going to "ascend to the 5th dimension" and Chris said that is a lie propagated by the Velons. Humans are going to integrate their whole soul into their physical body which will give them powers like telepathy, bi-location, communication with the earth and animals etc. When that happens to all the humans on earth they will throw the Velons out, and off the planet. Humans will then be able to live for two thousand years as they did in Atlantis. That comes from Chris.

Ruby
19th June 2015, 09:31
And Steve Richards, the Holographic Kinetic's guy who learnt his info from ancient aboriginal law, his understanding of earth and human history is much more along the lines of Wes Penre and Simon's as well...

I don't remember Simon's understanding of human history. Do you know which interview he talked about that? I will watch it again. Still, Simon gets his information from Mantid and Dracois. It might be a "nice" Mantid, but after all, they work hand in hand with the greys and the Draco's doing abductions. Therefore I don't trust that source and I don't think they told Simon everything, or discussed their agenda with him.

Ruby
19th June 2015, 09:40
Now that I think about it, if the portals are closing and the greys and draconis are being sucked out or trapped, and the Mantids were working along with them I'm thinking the Mantids may have come over from the same universe as the Draconis where they don't respect or honor free will. When Simon's website came back on he mentioned in an interview that him and some of the people who worked with or for him underwent energetic psychic attacks and two of his people quit. That is what he said. Perhaps his protection is on the run and the Velons (or our black ops military) are targeting him and the Mantids too. Just a thought.

Ruby
19th June 2015, 09:53
And Steve Richards, the Holographic Kinetic's guy who learnt his info from ancient aboriginal law, his understanding of earth and human history is much more along the lines of Wes Penre and Simon's as well...

I will definitely check those out thanks.

Baby Steps
19th June 2015, 10:34
Now that I think about it, if the portals are closing and the greys and draconis are being sucked out or trapped, and the Mantids were working along with them I'm thinking the Mantids may have come over from the same universe as the Draconis where they don't respect or honor free will. When Simon's website came back on he mentioned in an interview that him and some of the people who worked with or for him underwent energetic psychic attacks and two of his people quit. That is what he said. Perhaps his protection is on the run and the Velons (or our black ops military) are targeting him and the Mantids too. Just a thought.

Hi,
the following from Lisa Renee on the 'in5d website describes the pitfalls of working in spiritual groups, if one is not fully clear or conversant with basic protection techniques, for example when travelling Astrally. I do not think that Simon has any protection issues, but I do think such groups are targeted by higher dimensional (Astral & 4D) dark entities and participants need to learn how to operate in that environment:

"If we are not responsible with our personal thoughts and emotions, and allow ego disturbances to run our lives, we are vulnerable to be heavily manipulated and controlled by external forces.
One such manipulation is the collection and use of human psychic forces. When we are acting out extreme emotional states or mental judgments, that plasma substance is taken from our lower bodies (1D-2D-3D) and reconstituted to serve the manipulation of a planetary mind controlled agenda. If the person or group involved in creating such a “highly charged” ego based scenario “take the bait”, (this is referred to as “fishing”) the motive is to create chaos, disruption and get a dark “foothold” in the door. The point is here, to not let something “pushing dark energy” to get in the door, and to see it clearly for what it is, without fear or judgment. When you see it for what it is, the dark has no power or control over you or anything that you may be working with, such as projects, work, etc.
Clarity only becomes available when you are self-directed, calm and neutral and have no investment in any outcome or result.
This tactic is especially prevalent in spiritual leadership and within spiritual communities where the alien manipulation is used to divide and conquer those groups by instigating psychic warfare. This is to prevent the group from recognizing their own power and from creating unity through collaboration, which if stabilized, drastically increases their manifestation power (critical mass) into this world. How best to hijack or divide a group, when you believe it is another light-worker in that group, that is evil, controlled and sending you psychic attack? (This is why having some tools of Psychic Self Defense is mandatory when navigating the ascension and light-worker communities. Focused minds with disciplined egos reduce this problem extensively.)"

"Naturally if those of us in the light-worker family are serving freedom and ascension for the human race, we can be targeted quite easily through the victim-victimizer software, especially if we have little discipline over our mind and emotions.
Remembering that the planetary mind is invaded, means that the collective human mind has been invaded, (via the ego functions) as the reptilians (i.e. archons) have downloaded their mind into this planet. Therefore, it has leaked its sickness and sociopathy into the human mind. The global brain is magnetic, and keeping these machines operating will give us a clue as to what the lunar forces and the moon are being used for.
All of us have the choice and the power (by developing our inner life force and spiritual core) to stop this ego sickness from invading our sense of well-being, and controlling our mind to play out and inflict these sick behaviors on others. All of us here on earth are recovering from this ego sickness. Yet, being committed to the development of more compassionate kindness and tolerance for the human race is desperately needed.
By taking personal responsibility for the direction of one’s energies, at any moment one can choose what words and associations one will use as the filter to perceive or imply mental-emotional states. This responsibility of owning one’s thoughts and emotional state, are the way to build self-mastery and avoid being mind-controlled or manipulated, by any outside force.
As one becomes responsible for one’s behaviour and being aware about the World of Forces, we avoid being used unconsciously to create dramas, pain and karmic loads on our self and the others around us."

EWO
19th June 2015, 14:22
He explained in one of his interviews that Extraterrestrials and Extra-dimentional entities are different in that an Extraterrestrial actually flies through our 3D space in a ship to get here, and Extra-dimensional entities travel through dimensional portals

This doesnt make sense. Its like saying I am a flying entity because I use a airplane to travel instead of a boat or whatever. Portals are just a shortcut. If both entities come from our physical universe and you can see their star in the night sky, then they are both ET regardless how they travel.
But if they come from a different alternate universe or another multiverse in which case portal is the only way to travel then they are EDE

Ruby
19th June 2015, 17:15
He explained in one of his interviews that Extraterrestrials and Extra-dimentional entities are different in that an Extraterrestrial actually flies through our 3D space in a ship to get here, and Extra-dimensional entities travel through dimensional portals

This doesnt make sense. Its like saying I am a flying entity because I use a airplane to travel instead of a boat or whatever. Portals are just a shortcut. If both entities come from our physical universe and you can see their star in the night sky, then they are both ET regardless how they travel.
But if they come from a different alternate universe or another multiverse in which case portal is the only way to travel then they are EDE

He was just explaining the terms "extra terrestrial" vs "extra-dimensional." If time travel is involved it seems to me one would have to use some kind of portal and if your ship is traveling faster than the speed of light, then that probably in some way involves time distortion of some kind. The way I understood it was that "aliens" from within our own universe who traveled in ships to get here through our space were extra terrestrials. Simon did make a distinction between the two so I am thinking it involves the level of technology going on. I have also heard from at least two sources that the Draconis and maybe the greys are extra dimensional entities and that they are invaders from a completely different universe and should not be here at all and that they came in through black holes. Perhaps local portals or vortexes are different from these black holes. I have also heard that the reptoids are a completely different race from the Draco's and they went to war with each other on Mars. (The reptoids kicked ass according to Randy.) I'm still going over a lot of material so I haven't gotten it all worked out.... and probably won't for a very long time. (Not that I intend to write a book or anything, that is not my intent.)

EWO
19th June 2015, 17:25
First time I heard him say that I got the impression they originate from a completely different dimension, thats why its confusing.
They may have used inter dimensional travel to get here but they dont live in another dimension. Even if they are from another time period its still not a different dimension. I dont think he should use that terminology to describe a race based on their mode of transportation.

Ruby
19th June 2015, 17:32
In one interview with Simon, Alfred Weber and Randy, the question was asked what had happened to Mar's atmosphere and the answer was that the Draconis caught the races on mars off guard because they were fighting with each other and they got the upper hand on mars. The story was that the Pleiadians used a bomb to get rid of the Draconis Reptiles and it was more destructive than was intended killing a lot of Mars atmosphere. Mars does have atmosphere and the magnetic field is sort of broken up and it seems to be scattered around the planet, but it still supports life.

Ruby
19th June 2015, 17:37
First time I heard him say that I got the impression they originate from a completely different dimension, thats why its confusing.
They may have used inter dimensional travel to get here but they dont live in another dimension. Even if they are from another time period its still not a different dimension. I dont think he should use that terminology to describe a race based on their mode of transportation.

I think the important difference is that they are invaders from a different universe that is not a "free will" universe. I think timespace portals within this universe are probably different than the black hole portals. That's just my own speculation.

Ruby
19th June 2015, 17:48
Within a local universe there is such a thing as Universal law. Our universal law is one of "free will." In other words, it it based on agreements and consent. (or what we humans call "contracts.") Unscrupulous entities have ways of gaining consent or agreement in casual conversation (humans even use this method, in that we agree to be "governed." and accept other people's authority over us.) The Draconis and greys are aware of this law and do every sneaky thing to get around it or break it outright. The Velon Annunaki I believe are from our universe but the ones who invaded the earth, I believe are basically criminals who have no respect for the universal law and have found ways to get around it by using bribery, threats, fear, lies and intimidation to get people to enter into agreements.

Ruby
19th June 2015, 17:55
The triangular craft he mentioned possibly getting abducted by, but he does not remember: I have heard is a craft owned and created by our military. Another note: the date rape drug can take two or three hours of your memory.

golden lady
19th June 2015, 19:24
[QUOTE=Ruby;970900]

The CERN collider was supposed to keep the portal open but it failed, and it looks like they are not going get the new one build in Japan in time.

In Joseph Farrells interview with Dark Journalist he mentions the CERN Collider and will be talking about it in greater detail in the future. One to look for.
I'm a big fan of Joseph and Chris Thomas.

ghostrider
19th June 2015, 23:09
the Andromeda high council is a council of pure spirit forms that no longer need bodies , they are the council for the Plejaren , all done by spirit telepathy ... ET's simply are human beings not born on Earth ... the Plejaren have been known as the watchers/Nordics/angels for they have a glow about them , from their high vibrational state ... there is a race of Dwarves that serve as mediators between the high council and the Plejaren ... the Plejaren say there are 2,063,000 ET (human beings) in our Milkyway galaxy alone ...

Ruby
20th June 2015, 01:56
the Andromeda high council is a council of pure spirit forms that no longer need bodies , they are the council for the Plejaren , all done by spirit telepathy ... ET's simply are human beings not born on Earth ... the Plejaren have been known as the watchers/Nordics/angels for they have a glow about them , from their high vibrational state ... there is a race of Dwarves that serve as mediators between the high council and the Plejaren ... the Plejaren say there are 2,063,000 ET (human beings) in our Milkyway galaxy alone ...

No longer needs bodies? I would think the creation of a physical body is a great accomplishment. Where do you get your information?

Ruby
20th June 2015, 03:13
From the website of the Andromeda Council and about the "Galactic Federation"

QUOTE: "The Andromeda Council is an intergalactic, interstellar & interdimensional governance & development body of aligned benevolent star systems & planets of sentient intelligent life... for worlds in both the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies. " ALSO: "As a high level governance body the Council is responsible for setting precedence, protocols, conditions of behavior regarding planetary exploration & first contact, new membership, and trade relations... among its member planets. Think of it as a deep space - 'United Nations'.

HERE IS MY TAKE ON THAT ABOVE: This looks like some kind of hierarchy created by the Velon Annunaki and I don't believe there is any truth to this information at all. Its just another trap. As a human being, I am sick of being "governed" by the "United Nations" here on earth, so why would I consent to some galactic federation "united nations" to take its place in its governing of me? Any hierarchy like this is set up for the purpose of control and to dictate to others. We multidimensional human beings have no reason to set our sites on or to live in the fourth and fifth dimensions. I am not going to fall for or give consent to being governed by some galactic federation hierarchy. Everyone seems to agree that the Draconians and greys have been defeated and I tend to believe this to be true, but seems like everyone is trying to take credit for it too.

ghostrider
20th June 2015, 03:19
the Andromeda high council is a council of pure spirit forms that no longer need bodies , they are the council for the Plejaren , all done by spirit telepathy ... ET's simply are human beings not born on Earth ... the Plejaren have been known as the watchers/Nordics/angels for they have a glow about them , from their high vibrational state ... there is a race of Dwarves that serve as mediators between the high council and the Plejaren ... the Plejaren say there are 2,063,000 ET (human beings) in our Milkyway galaxy alone ...

No longer needs bodies? I would think the creation of a physical body is a great accomplishment. Where do you get your information?

the writings of Henoch ...

Ruby
20th June 2015, 03:34
the Andromeda high council is a council of pure spirit forms that no longer need bodies , they are the council for the Plejaren , all done by spirit telepathy ... ET's simply are human beings not born on Earth ... the Plejaren have been known as the watchers/Nordics/angels for they have a glow about them , from their high vibrational state ... there is a race of Dwarves that serve as mediators between the high council and the Plejaren ... the Plejaren say there are 2,063,000 ET (human beings) in our Milkyway galaxy alone ...

No longer needs bodies? I would think the creation of a physical body is a great accomplishment. Where do you get your information?

the writings of Henoch ...


And so who is Henoch??

ghostrider
20th June 2015, 05:16
the Andromeda high council is a council of pure spirit forms that no longer need bodies , they are the council for the Plejaren , all done by spirit telepathy ... ET's simply are human beings not born on Earth ... the Plejaren have been known as the watchers/Nordics/angels for they have a glow about them , from their high vibrational state ... there is a race of Dwarves that serve as mediators between the high council and the Plejaren ... the Plejaren say there are 2,063,000 ET (human beings) in our Milkyway galaxy alone ...

No longer needs bodies? I would think the creation of a physical body is a great accomplishment. Where do you get your information?

the writings of Henoch ...


And so who is Henoch??
Henoch is German for Enoch ...

ghostrider
20th June 2015, 05:23
Nokodemjon the first spirit teacher , reincarnated as Henoch (Enoch) three times , same spirit different personalities , merged back with Creation , 12 billion years ago , then came back out for his peoples degenerated away from the laws of Creation , that spirit has been incarnating for billions of years doing the same job each time as a herald or announcer of truths ... he was brought by Et's to our system 389,000 years ago ... He returned again in our time space over 9,000 years ago , as Enoch -Isaiah-Elijah-Jeremiah-Immanuel-Muhammad and now Beam , Billy Edward Albert Meier ... the Plejaren mentor or follow that spirit where ever it incarnates ...that spirit will stay on Earth until the year 3,999 then it will leave to other worlds ... http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Henoch

Ruby
20th June 2015, 05:59
Henoch is German for Enoch ..

I've heard of Enoch but I don't see what those writings have to do with the "Andromeda high council" or the "Galactic Federation" material.

lucidity
20th June 2015, 10:21
Hi Ruby, Simon calls the entities that are stuck between 3rd and 4th dimensions the djinn - did you interpret this as the archons?

Hello Siblings,

Isn't being stuck between 3rd and 4th dimensions the equivalent
of being stuck between the 2nd and 3rd dimension ?
Or the equivalent of being stuck between the 1st and 2nd dimension?
(or for that matter between the 1st and 3rd dimension?)

So.... that would be like being stuck between height and width,
or between depth and height.... or between width and depth.

In other words, isn't this just nonsense?

be happy :-)

lucidity

Ruby
20th June 2015, 17:10
In other words, isn't this just nonsense?


It could indeed be just nonsense if by "dimension" you are talking about perception of depth, width, height etc. Personally I don't really understand it myself. It could be a lot of "hot air."

What is a dimension? In 3D...and 2D... and 1D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJJhHknEDPY

I think it is more about vibration and perception.

TrumanCash
21st June 2015, 14:27
Regarding the Grays--Yes, they have become much less active in abductions in more recent times. The peak in Grays' abductions occurred in the mid-90s and then gradually tapered off. There may be some left around here but I think it is a small number compared to the mid-90s. I haven't been abducted since 2012 (Feb -- April) and was not abducted for several years before that. Compare that to the mid-90s when I was being abducted as much as two to three times a week.

TLC

Ecnal61
21st June 2015, 20:24
Hi Ruby,you say that you think that the greys are extra dimensional but do you mean ALL greys? from what i understand there are different species of grey or greys..could you clarify that point for me please if possible,thanks.

Ruby
22nd June 2015, 00:44
Hi Ruby,you say that you think that the greys are extra dimensional but do you mean ALL greys? from what i understand there are different species of grey or greys..could you clarify that point for me please if possible,thanks.

Yes I think that the greys, all greys, are extra dimensional entities meaning that they are 4th dimensional entities and that they originally came in the same way as the Draconis Reptilians through black hole portals from a different universe. That is to say, they are not only "not of this earth" they are "not of this local free will universe." The greys we experience are controlled, programmed and genetically modified by the Draconians. If they have a race of their own and a home in their own universe, they probably did not come here on their own or by their own choice. There may be many different types but most of them are simply clones with not much of a will of their own and they operate with a hive mind that is programmed by the Draconians. They don't reproduce so they are clones. The Mantids also create creatures who they use as living robots to do certain jobs according to Simon. These are simply disposed of when they are no longer needed. They are programmed biological machines. The information I have heard is that the greys were evicted from this solar system (and universe) in 2003. If there are any left on earth they have probably gone underground, but Randy said the ones that were on the moon and others they found were sent back or sucked back into the portals from whence they came.

Lifebringer
22nd June 2015, 00:51
Maybe they'll travel via portal, because they are quarantined here, not us, but the matrix of deceit is to tell us we are prisoners, not them? I too ind this interesting.
Instead of risking cataclysmic weather and crustal conditions, they just jump through, but..now he portals of escape are closing. Hmm...it's something to contemplate.:thumbsup:

Ruby
22nd June 2015, 00:57
My only experience with these extra-dimensional entities was once after I had just fallen asleep, while lying on my back, I went into sleep paralysis and I became aware of at least two beings, possibly greys of some kind, standing over me, one on each side of me. They were fiddling with my stomach as if they were getting ready to operate (or maybe implanting something.) I don't know if they succeeded but I remembered how to get out of sleep paralysis by consciously moving a finger on one of my hands. That movement took me out of it. My niece who was about 12 years old, and staying with me at the time, confided in me later on, that these creatures were bothering her too. I was not taken physically.. as far as I remember. They must have decided I was not a good specimen.

Ruby
22nd June 2015, 01:02
Maybe they'll travel via portal, because they are quarantined here, not us, but the matrix of deceit is to tell us we are prisoners, not them? I too ind this interesting.
Instead of risking cataclysmic weather and crustal conditions, they just jump through, but..now he portals of escape are closing. Hmm...it's something to contemplate.:thumbsup:

Actually, the black hole portals are closing up and will all be closed eventually for the extra-dimensional entities. As for the extraterrestrials, possibly the Velon or Annunaki, I have heard that this planet is surrounded and guarded and no negative alien reinforcements can get in. I am hoping this is true. I have noticed the absence of chem trails in this area. I only saw one last week and it was one that dissipated quickly instead of hanging in the sky. It was not a con trail either. It was a long cloud trail leaving two trails and it went away very fast across a clear sky. Other than that, the skies have been clear and only fluffy normal clouds are seen.