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Deega
21st November 2010, 22:53
Hi All Avalonians, Guests,
Statistically frightful, 20% of americans are mentally ill said the Daily Mail Reporter.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1331636/1-5-Americans-mentally-ill-joblessness-takes-toll.html
How does other nations stand?
All my blessings.
Deega
Teakai
21st November 2010, 23:09
Yes, but it's not true, though.
That's just the statistics going by the percentage of people that they've doled out anti - psychotics and anti-depressants to.
You don't actually need to be mentally ill to get a script. Even a GP can put you on them.
It's a total farce and making billions/trillions(?) for big pharma.
shadowstalker
21st November 2010, 23:12
No doubt it is only the enlightened to be considered mentally ill..lol ya I know it's not funny but when you think about it thats what they are gunning for
DawgBone
21st November 2010, 23:13
TSA pats us down. The shrinks say we are mentally ill.
Is there a pattern here? Is someone trying to degrade and weaken us???
Teakai
21st November 2010, 23:20
No doubt it is only the enlightened to be considered mentally ill..lol ya I know it's not funny but when you think about it thats what they are gunning for
I agree, Shadowstalker.
But really, the 'enlightened' wouldn't be taking themselves to a doctor for head stuff -they'd be doing the meditation and the practises which are necessary to keep a peaceful mind. They wouldn't be buying into the system which is setting them up for the fail - and so would see it as it was.
So - I'm thinking that none (or maybe very few - by force) of the 'enlightened' are included in these numbers.
shadowstalker
22nd November 2010, 00:32
I agree, Shadowstalker.
But really, the 'enlightened' wouldn't be taking themselves to a doctor for head stuff -they'd be doing the meditation and the practises which are necessary to keep a peaceful mind. They wouldn't be buying into the system which is setting them up for the fail - and so would see it as it was.
So - I'm thinking that none (or maybe very few - by force) of the 'enlightened' are included in these numbers.
Not necessarily true, but you are right, the truly enlightened would not go to docs office for such things like that.
But they have an out for that,(by force) it's called your kids that go to public school, trust and believe if your kids starts talking of things that we do, even just on spirituality alone, CPS is on your door step, Crying forced religion and the like, believe me I went threw it, for 14 years on and off.
Not meaning to put fear in ones hearts but it's true and I have seen other families get torn apart over these issues by CPS.
I have lived in many different states here in the U.S. I have seen to much, on this.
Not negating what you said, just adding is all..
Fredkc
22nd November 2010, 00:36
Well, since I know at least four people who are normal.....
well, you do the math. ;)
Fred
shadowstalker
22nd November 2010, 00:41
None of my friends are normal, I like it that way, never a dull moment, and they know how to deal when bad things happen.
Teakai
22nd November 2010, 00:58
Not necessarily true, but you are right, the truly enlightened would not go to docs office for such things like that.
But they have an out for that,(by force) it's called your kids that go to public school, trust and believe if your kids starts talking of things that we do, even just on spirituality alone, CPS is on your door step, Crying forced religion and the like, believe me I went threw it, for 14 years on and off.
Not meaning to put fear in ones hearts but it's true and I have seen other families get torn apart over these issues by CPS.
I have lived in many different states here in the U.S. I have seen to much, on this.
Not negating what you said, just adding is all..
Oh yeah, I didn't really think about children.
Public school is an awful institution - getting to them early and educating children on how to comply with the system - and if you don't fit the required mould there's something wrong with you and here's your drugs.
We don't have it too bad over here - yet.
Mind, we have a fair share of kids on ritalin etc, but so far it seems the teachers and the other 'social workers' haven't been too pressured into looking for the problems - if you know what I mean.
Also - a lot of people over here, until recently (but I may be judging that from my own realisation) have no idea that the system totally sucks and what the ultimate plan is.
Of course Australia is a big place with a smallish population - when/if the globalists get the US completely under thumb, we'll likely just go along with it all with most of us being none the wiser. (Not a very optimistic thought - but hey, maybe lots of people will wake up really quickly)
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Well, since I know at least four people who are normal.....
well, you do the math. ;)
Fred
I like the saying:
With normal you just get the one pony, insanity gets you the whole carnival.
shadowstalker
22nd November 2010, 01:04
"In most cases" these poor kids suffer from multitasking and nothing more, they are high octane for sure, but they get the job done for the most part.
And most teachers in the states claim these kids need drugs only to have the kids suffer thru the So called norm, why because they want to have total control and not have them think for themselves.
Problem is they do less worked when doped up and still the teachers complain.
Oh man someone please stop me from ranting I could go on forever with this stuff.
But your right.
shadowstalker
22nd November 2010, 01:09
What was it my daughter use to say to here Fiance?
"You need more bad things to happen to you so you can learn how to cope when sh** hits the fan"
She wasn't trying to be mean to him but he was a little dramatic with the little things .
daledo
22nd November 2010, 01:14
Statistically frightful, 20% of americans are mentally ill said the Daily Mail Reporter.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1331636/1-5-Americans-mentally-ill-joblessness-takes-toll.html
How does other nations stand?
A few other posts had responses that hit this right on. Can't remember where they were though. What is mentally ill? It is actually people that do not conform to what THEY want us to be. They do not want us to think for ourselves so in turn they put us on medication that brings us down to average and hinder development of the Pineal Gland. The individuals that have free thought are very dangerous to the agenda of the ELITE. We are bombarded by possibly hundreds of thousands of drug ads that tell us that we are mentally ill in our lifetime. They get people to seek out prescriptions even though they have no problem through repetition of the TV ads, newspaper ads, magazine ads, and every other publication that the see fit. These prescriptions NEVER address the cause of ANYTHING, they only treat the SYMPTOMS. Who has the right to say that because I am different that it is BAD. I am an individual and have the freedom of my mind to be myself. I will NEVER conform to someone else's thoughts on what normal is. I am myself and if someone else does not like it they can go F*** OFF :)
Teakai
22nd November 2010, 01:19
"In most cases" these poor kids suffer from multitasking and nothing more, they are high octane for sure, but they get the job done for the most part.
And most teachers in the states claim these kids need drugs only to have the kids suffer thru the So called norm, why because they want to have total control and not have them think for themselves.
Problem is they do less worked when doped up and still the teachers complain.
Oh man someone please stop me from ranting I could go on forever with this stuff.
But your right.
I know, it's sickening. It would probably be far better if everybody home educated (don't want to say schooled) their children.
But, in a lot of cases you have the parents both out working to either make ends meet or to have the next 'gadget' - to fit in with the rest of what society has been brainwashed into thinking is the done thing.
I was reading through the Franklin school of subversion - and one of the means to carrying out their end goal was to break up the family unit - Looking about me, I think a lot of us have fallen for that hook line and sinker.
Point of interest - the suffragate movement was funded by the 'b8stards that be'.
Westerners, as a society have been led by the nose to totally deny the spirit (which is who we are) - no wonder so many people do go to the doctor with stress or depression.
shadowstalker
22nd November 2010, 01:42
I know, it's sickening. It would probably be far better if everybody home educated (don't want to say schooled) their children.
But, in a lot of cases you have the parents both out working to either make ends meet or to have the next 'gadget' - to fit in with the rest of what society has been brainwashed into thinking is the done thing.
I was reading through the Franklin school of subversion - and one of the means to carrying out their end goal was to break up the family unit - Looking about me, I think a lot of us have fallen for that hook line and sinker.
Point of interest - the suffragate movement was funded by the 'b8stards that be'.
Westerners, as a society have been led by the nose to totally deny the spirit (which is who we are) - no wonder so many people do go to the doctor with stress or depression.
Very true, and I know this is probable a bad things to say but folks here love to hide in the sand with there prescribed drugs,
Teakai
22nd November 2010, 07:09
Very true, and I know this is probable a bad things to say but folks here love to hide in the sand with there prescribed drugs,
Sure, sometimes it's just behavioural - and a 'condition' gives some parents an escape route for crap parenting skills.
Then again - there are folks who do believe that the docs right and the systems right and it's all good and the drugs are just a part of life as we know it. That their child does have a 'legitimate' problem because it's been 'diagnosed' by a 'professional'.
I've not taken anti depressants, but at one stage my youngest sister was on 3 times the dosage -she's an adult. But 3 times!!!! That's stuff that messes with brain chemicals.
They just made her fat and even more depressed.
xbusymom
22nd November 2010, 08:01
bulls-eye - thats true...
and if they (schools/ doctors) get the kids screened and fit with a label of mental illness, go to the trouble of analyzing, diagnosing, and prescribing meds, then if the parents don't agree with the recommended *read- mandated* treatment or don't actually give the pills to the children- they then become at risk for being charged with unfit parenting because of medical neglect...etc...
yep, THEY are revving up a whopper of a racket here...
( my family has personally gone thru 2 cases in 2 different states exactly like that in the last 2 years)
witchy1
22nd November 2010, 09:11
Public school is an awful institution - getting to them early and educating children on how to comply with the system - and if you don't fit the required mould there's something wrong with you and here's your drugs
How very true T. Shadow Im with you on this. Have instilled in both sons to be independant thinkers, to question and stand up for their convictions. How do you think that goes down? Both started school at 5 yo capable of reading writing and basic maths. (not genius's but had the basics) They just got ignored then got bored. Argghhh
I loate with a vengence the private schools, who teach nothing more than and buying into the "class" system wrapping children up in cotton wool and providing no real life skills. The Gen Y's Ive employed from private schools are nore often than not very strange young people! They openly admit to being ill prepared for the real world and am told have the highest drop out rate from varsity as a consequence (cant handle it) They dont seem to be able to cope with the realities of life.
When I bring up the public v private education thing (given the cirriculum is the same) they will also openly tell you that the real objective is to meet with like minded people - those they can network with once in the job market! My mates dad is...so and so.(either that or they will tell you their parents didnt want them mixing with the lower socio-economic population) Most will also tell you that it has not improved their job opportunites at all.
They also dont like being told no (either that or Ive just lost patience with the noddy-no-it-alls) and they do not accept nor cope will with critisism. No-one like critisism, but they are being paid to do a job, not spend all day on facebook. They just seem to struggle with the realities of working life. Almost like we are lucky because they choose to work here.
Before anyone jumps on me - I know not all private schools are like this, but it seems to be increasingly more common IMHO. (BTW Aus / NZ is a whole lot different education system than the states - here you have a reasonable choice between the 2)
Teachers hate to be questioned, I know they have a difficult task - but they brought their ticket. They dont have to do the job. We have a right as tax payers to ensure that our public schools work, and have adequate resources for all types of kids (with an anti-bullying policy that is implemented) I have actually home educated both sons at diffrent times and its a big ask.
Teachers forget that kids are not "bog-standard" or "one size fits all". and they dont come with an instruction list! They have to tailor the teaching for the individual student. If they are busy kids, then its outside to burn it off. Not drugged to sit still.
Then again - there are folks who do believe that the docs right and the systems right and it's all good and the drugs are just a part of life as we know it. That their child does have a 'legitimate' problem because it's been 'diagnosed' by a 'professional'
Who put these people on the pedistool! They are FAR from perfect. I am amazed that people just blindly accept what they say as gospel....... Dont be lazy people, work it out. They are the "legitimate" drug peddlers. Having said that many people just turn up having paid for the appt. expect something in return....like a pill to make their problems go away, not face the relaities of life or seek to find a cause for their misery.
In my experience many (not all) GP's are just wanna be specialists that couldnt make the grade. How many times have nurses saved lives just by double checking what the docs have done...... very many. Do they improve once in private pratise - No. How often does medical council cover up for them - a whole lot. I do have dear friends as GP's and Specialists so Im not Doc bashing - I have worked with many great Doctors - the really great ones go on to Specialize. However the great GP's are few and far between- If you find one, hang on to him/her for dear life. They are out there, they just take some finding. Shop around, you dont have to accept 2nd best.
I could write a book - My pet rant...... sorry - over and out.
The One
22nd November 2010, 09:31
One life
One choice
One Direction
I feel the weight of the world on my shoulder
As I'm gettin' older, y'all, people gets colder
Most of us only care about money makin'
Selfishness got us followin' our wrong direction
Wrong information always shown by the media
Negative images is the main criteria
Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria
Kids wanna act like what they see in the cinema
whatever happened to the values of humanity
Whatever happened to the fairness in equality
Instead of spreading love we're spreading animosity
Lack of understanding, leading lives away from unity
That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' under
That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' down
There's no wonder why sometimes I'm feelin' under
Gotta keep my faith alive till love is found
Teakai
22nd November 2010, 09:36
Brilliant. And it works to rap really well, The one. I'm going to be singing that now instead of 'Don't touch my junk.'
:)
yaksuit
22nd November 2010, 10:07
what i find interesting is the parallels between earth changes and human behavioral changes.
Perhaps the major shift is the shift in consciousness and not an extreme(suggested in some quarters)planetary "pole shift" but rather a bi-polar consciousness shift in our and other species.(as we are not mutually exclusive from the planet it's obvious the planet has similar symptoms.(symbiosis).
Seems to me one of the most efficient ways to snap out of the old paradigm is about purging which in effect will display/perform like a mental illness to those that blindly adhere to the old paradigm. This may seem obvious to some but there is a major link between mental illness and metaphysical development in these "times".
I am speaking from experience having lived with bi-polar for 20 years along with half of my family tree (stump) :P. My predominant symptoms were that of elation which invites some sort of metaphysical default grandeur and or the other way around...it took me years to feel more of a sense of internal intuitive balance which i have been enjoying for the bulk of my late 20's to the present. I feel that as the paradigm shifts, then the anxiety will reduce for those that embrace a new paradigm. A sense of community from the ground up seems practical, inevitable and as discourses shift focus then so can we. The medication i take i call society drugs. I haven't watched free to air tv for 20 years, i spend little to no time in the "market place". I am happy with less, happy making art and music. Perhaps a sense of calm presents itself when one attempts to be emotionally and physically creative outside of the rhetoric of capitalism. One day soon i hope i can put my finger to the wind and know that the society that probably contributed to some very challenging times for me will have changed and being able to stop taking medication will be more than an option :)
cheers
Teakai
22nd November 2010, 10:21
Makes a whole heap of sense, Yaksuit.
We have become dulled and stunted in our conformity. We are drab and dark grey. May the colours return and may we rejoice and embrace them, not judge and jail them.
:)
yaksuit
22nd November 2010, 10:24
Thank you Teakai and well said.
:)
shadowstalker
22nd November 2010, 21:22
I was on cymbolta for 3 months last year (last stitch effort to get rid of the pain of lies and betrayers and suicidal depression do to the previous mentioned of the previous six months) Left me with no gifts, no physical feelings, or emotions. I felt like i was not there, after the three months the pills stopped working and I wound up with migraines for another month, the doc ask me why i stopped taking them, i told him "they stopped taking me", and i am grateful for it.
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bulls-eye - thats true...
and if they (schools/ doctors) get the kids screened and fit with a label of mental illness, go to the trouble of analyzing, diagnosing, and prescribing meds, then if the parents don't agree with the recommended *read- mandated* treatment or don't actually give the pills to the children- they then become at risk for being charged with unfit parenting because of medical neglect...etc...
yep, THEY are revving up a whopper of a racket here...
( my family has personally gone thru 2 cases in 2 different states exactly like that in the last 2 years)
it's all true, i believe it whole hardily
Erin
27th November 2010, 09:24
Just putting in my two cents, as someone who has dealt with "mental illness" over the past few years.
Basically, I was diagnosed with ADHD and depression during my first year of college. It got to the point where I literally didn't get out of bed for a week. I couldn't bring myself to do anything except the most menial of tasks. Even taking a shower seemed like the most gargantuan chore - it was pretty bad. I finally realized that I had a serious problem and got myself to a psychiatrist. I don't know what I would've done without her, to be honest. She pretty much saved my life, or at least prevented me from having to drop out of college.
After speaking to her at length, my psychiatrist explained to me that I probably had depression, which by that point was obvious - but surprised me with the ADHD diagnosis. I never thought of myself as someone who could have ADHD. After all, I did alright in school (I got into a top 25 university, for what it's worth) - I just never pressed myself harder to excel further because I just considered myself to be "too lazy" and liked to spend my free time watching TV or reading recreationally instead. Everyone around me (my parents, teachers, etc) pretty much insinuated or downright called me out on being "lazy", too. I never knew this was something that a lot of people with ADHD experience. This is because many people, such as myself, have a form of ADHD which does not exhibit hyperactive tendencies. If anything, I'm hypoactive, haha. This is called ADHD - Inattentive Type.
Anyway, my psychiatrist recommended that I go on antidepressants as to get me out of my depression so I could start focusing on how to deal with my ADHD (which was probably the trigger of my depression). I went on a variety of medications since it takes a while to find one that works - after all, everyone's brain chemistry is different. After a few months I eventually I got out of my depression and a few months later, stopped taking the antidepressants.
What really helped me though, is what my psychiatrist also suggested I go on - Vitamin D and cod liver oil (omega 3 fatty acids). While she recommended the antidepressants as well, she told me that taking these supplements was essential to maintaining a healthy mind/body/etc. She also said that while many people need medications to correct neurological imbalances, therapy coupled with medication is the only way to go, and that simply popping pills isn't going to solve all of your problems.
In other words, she's not some sort of Big Pharma shill. She believes in the usefulness of prescription medication, but also in the effectiveness of mineral supplements and one-on-one therapy. She's also Harvard educated and highly respected in her field. She even once mentioned to me that believes in psychic phenomenon.
Now, are all psychiatrists like this? No. I'm sure for every awesome doctor like mine there are many Big Pharma douchebags. Still, it's important not to loop those guys into representing the whole of psychiatry. Prior to getting diagnosed, I, like some people, didn't really think that ADHD was a very legitimate disorder. I thought that most, if not all cases were really cases of bad parenting or something, and that the Big Pharma was out to over medicate the children for some cold hard cash. Now, I do still think that some cases of ADHD are bad parenting, and I do still think that Big Pharma is out to over medicate children for some cold hard cash. But I do know now that ADHD is a legitimate disorder that seriously affects the lives of many children AND adults like me every day. If I don't take my ADHD medication, I cannot reach my true potential - and it ultimately sends me spiraling into dark depressions because of my inability to start simple tasks.
So, to whomever may have doubts about the legitimacy of ADHD (or prescription medication for those with mental illness in general), I hope you read up more on the disorder and reconsider your position. It's not fun having a disability, and it's even less fun to have one that people deny exists.
Teakai
27th November 2010, 10:48
Cosmiclagoon, I have wondered if maybe depression isn't so much a mental illness as a symtpom that we are living unnaturally in an unnatural environment.
We sort of get stuffed into this box of expectations and then feel required to live up to that expectation. Everything about our life is based on some sort of fear factor - whether it be our judgment of ourselves or the judgment of others in regard to us.
We're raised to consider that money is the bottom line of existence. We must have money and the more the better/safer we are - it's the basis of our survival - and it's usually gained by selling ourselves - for 8 hours a day 5 days a week. That's a good chunk of life.
And ADHD - what is that? Is it a mental disorder or the way someone's brain works that jars with the way the system wants it to work?
Your ADHD sounds a lot like my ADHD - only I haven't been diagnosed with it :)
I don't see the connection between ADHD and depression, though - unless one gets depressed about having ADHD.
DawgBone
27th November 2010, 13:57
One in FIVE Americans are also Republican.
I wonder if there is a correlation???
:--)
Erin
27th November 2010, 17:59
Cosmiclagoon, I have wondered if maybe depression isn't so much a mental illness as a symtpom that we are living unnaturally in an unnatural environment.
We sort of get stuffed into this box of expectations and then feel required to live up to that expectation. Everything about our life is based on some sort of fear factor - whether it be our judgment of ourselves or the judgment of others in regard to us.
We're raised to consider that money is the bottom line of existence. We must have money and the more the better/safer we are - it's the basis of our survival - and it's usually gained by selling ourselves - for 8 hours a day 5 days a week. That's a good chunk of life.
And ADHD - what is that? Is it a mental disorder or the way someone's brain works that jars with the way the system wants it to work?
Your ADHD sounds a lot like my ADHD - only I haven't been diagnosed with it :)
I don't see the connection between ADHD and depression, though - unless one gets depressed about having ADHD.
Everyone's depression is different. Some people have a biological/neurological imbalance that's 100% the root of their problem, and can't really be fixed with therapy or alternative medicines alone. Other times people may have a biological predisposition for depression (like myself) and are triggered by certain imbalances that one can correct by maintaining a healthy lifestyle (vitamin D, omega 3s, getting enough sleep, etc) and being on antidepressants. Other times depression is simply triggered by sad events in life, like a the loss of loved one, or what have you. In these cases you can be prescribed antidepressants, but you don't always need them to get through it. Again, everyone is different, so by extension, not everyone should get the same treatment. Ultimately you should chose what you think will work best for you - and sometimes that does mean taking antidepressants for extended periods of time.
As for ADHD, it is a mental disorder that is neruological in nature. It affects an area of the brain (I forget the name...I'll have to ask my psychiatrist again), which can be re-stimulated to simulate how most other people's brains work with certain drugs. I happen to take methylphenidate, which is the generic form of Ritalin - and I only take it when I have important tasks I know I have to accomplish during my day. For example, I've been on vacation for the past week and haven't taken any, but when I get back to LA on Sunday, I'm going to take some so I can get started on work that I've been assigned. If I don't take the methylphenidate, I'll ultimately procrastinate until I become so anxiety-ridden that my brain produces the stimuli needed for me to complete my work. It's not fun! I'd rather take the drugs so I don't have to be a ball of anxiety all the time and rush all of my important work I have to do.
Regarding living unnaturally in an unnatural environment - I suppose it's possible. I'd be interested to know the effects that genetically modified foods have on the brain, or on developing kids. Or chemtrails, even. There are probably some cases of ADHD and depression that are caused by environmental changes. But ultimately I think a lot of it has to do with genetics.
My psychiatrist told me a few weeks ago that she went to a conference and they were talking about how they discovered at least 7 genes that were connected to ADHD. She also said that through studies they have discovered that 50% of the people who have ADHD also have another (or multiple other) form of mental illness (depression, tics, anxiety). I dunno why this is; perhaps we have a predisposition for it by having ADHD, sometimes it could be genetic from a different side of the family, who knows. All I know is that my depressive episodes are usually triggered by my ADHD getting out of control and therefore me not being able to function well, having my grades suffer, etc.
There are a lot of adults who have undiagnosed ADHD, and don't even know it. For more on that, I suggest reading this page:
http://helpguide.org/mental/adhd_add_adult_symptoms.htm
It has a pretty good overview of adult ADHD (the term ADD is also used, but it's outdated with the DSM IV. ADHD is used to describe both ADHD Inattentive Type aka ADD, and ADHD with the actual hyperactivity), and ways you can help yourself cope with it.
Banshee
27th November 2010, 18:04
Just curious - whose set of data did this study use?
DawgBone
27th November 2010, 18:49
Cosmiclagoon, I would encourage you to find a non-pharmacological solution.
I had a brush with depression 20 years ago. It was like falling into a pit. The drug they prescribed almost killed me. I have no respect for the psychiatric profession. Psychotropic drugs should be an absolute last resort.
The thing that brought me back to life was exercise! Getting out in the fresh air, almost everyday, and jogging. Nothing heroic. Just enough to get you warm and relaxed and somewhat tired. If your body is warm and relaxed and somewhat tired, it is almost impossible to feel bad.
Eat a good diet, no caffeine or alcohol. Avoid pesticides and processed foods.
Do some things you really like to do.
Love your friends and family.
Jog everyday.
Get a dog.
You will live forever.
Deega
27th November 2010, 19:58
Just curious - whose set of data did this study use?
Thanks Banshee for the question.
The article was published by Mail Online with a Daily Mail Reporter, I looked it over, could not find the name of the author.
But the Reporter mentioned that he used the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration or SAMHSA datas to tell what is in the article.
Link again: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1331636/1-5-Americans-mentally-ill-joblessness-takes-toll.html
All my blessings.
Deega
Banshee
27th November 2010, 20:12
Thank you so very much. It is highly possible that these numbers reflect more than just mental illness (substance abuse, ptsd, post partum stuff). And, unfortunately, the tail wags the dog when it comes to medicine in this country.... an overly medicated populace to feed the financial need of big pharma. Its quite silly actually, to tell someone that their a normal reaction to variable circumstances is abnormal. Meaning if you are not deliriously happy all the time, there must be something wrong with you. And... unfortunately, there is the issue of social security disability benefits being paid to mothers of children who are diagnosed with adhd. They get the kids of hyped up on sugar and caffeine and them have them diagnosed as adhd so they can get a monthly check. Sad but true.
Erin
27th November 2010, 22:23
Cosmiclagoon, I would encourage you to find a non-pharmacological solution.
I had a brush with depression 20 years ago. It was like falling into a pit. The drug they prescribed almost killed me. I have no respect for the psychiatric profession. Psychotropic drugs should be an absolute last resort.
The thing that brought me back to life was exercise! Getting out in the fresh air, almost everyday, and jogging. Nothing heroic. Just enough to get you warm and relaxed and somewhat tired. If your body is warm and relaxed and somewhat tired, it is almost impossible to feel bad.
Eat a good diet, no caffeine or alcohol. Avoid pesticides and processed foods.
Do some things you really like to do.
Love your friends and family.
Jog everyday.
Get a dog.
You will live forever.
I agree that psych drugs should be a last resort for depression. I'm no longer on them, and I don't think I will need them in the long term if I can keep myself from slipping back into that.
As I touched on before, my psychiatrist really emphasizes getting sunlight, exercise, good diet, vitamins, minerals, etc as a way to stay both physically and mentally healthy. If you go to psychiatrist who does not say this and only pushes pills on you, I don't consider them to be a good doctor or a good representation of what psychiatry is (or at least what it should be).
And I'm definitely going to get a dog once I graduate! ;)
Dale
27th November 2010, 22:59
As I touched on before, my psychiatrist really emphasizes getting sunlight, exercise, good diet, vitamins, minerals, etc as a way to stay both physically and mentally healthy.
Well said!
From my own experiences/observations in the field of research psychology, one of the greatest ways to loosen the grip of a mental disorder is to go for a walk, outside, on a warm, sunny day.
There are several contributing reasons why this is so, with, in my opinion, an increase in Vitamin D3 production leading the long list of factors.
Deega
28th November 2010, 19:58
Makes a whole heap of sense, Yaksuit.
We have become dulled and stunted in our conformity. We are drab and dark grey. May the colours return and may we rejoice and embrace them, not judge and jail them.
:)
Thanks Teakai,
How rigth you are...!, loved it!
All my blessings.
Deega
Deega
28th November 2010, 20:01
A few other posts had responses that hit this right on. Can't remember where they were though. What is mentally ill? It is actually people that do not conform to what THEY want us to be. They do not want us to think for ourselves so in turn they put us on medication that brings us down to average and hinder development of the Pineal Gland. The individuals that have free thought are very dangerous to the agenda of the ELITE. We are bombarded by possibly hundreds of thousands of drug ads that tell us that we are mentally ill in our lifetime. They get people to seek out prescriptions even though they have no problem through repetition of the TV ads, newspaper ads, magazine ads, and every other publication that the see fit. These prescriptions NEVER address the cause of ANYTHING, they only treat the SYMPTOMS. Who has the right to say that because I am different that it is BAD. I am an individual and have the freedom of my mind to be myself. I will NEVER conform to someone else's thoughts on what normal is. I am myself and if someone else does not like it they can go F*** OFF :)
Thanks Daledo,
Loved it, you are right!
All my blessings.
Deega
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