The Great Quotes thread

[Jamie]

"I have been a Pacifist all my Life. Yet Nowadays whenever... My Family, My Friends and the Good People of this World have their very lives threatened... I want to become a PassTheFist" - Anonymous

[kfm27917]

Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

- Claude Cockburn

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Comrade Wolf knows who to eat, and he eats without listening to anyone.

- Vladimir Putin

[kfm27917]

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.B5uVHHoPt7ImySQDK3n_CwHaDf%26pid%3DApi&f=1

[kfm27917]

“There can’t be freedom without free will”

Maria Zakharova 2024

more at Escobar: The Global South Converges To Multipolar Moscow
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-global-south-converges-multipolar-moscow

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"How much more grievous are the consequences of anger than the causes of it."
― Marcus Aurelius

[Alekahn2]

"How much more grievous are the consequences of anger than the causes of it."
― Marcus Aurelius

I put the above quote on the dashboard of my vehicle, as it is such a timely reminder
while driving on the Interstate system of the USA!
While listening to Alex Honnold (:heart2::muscle:) differentiating between risk and consequence, this stuck with me.

"Risk is the likelihood of something going wrong, while consequence is the result of something going wrong."
~Alex Honnold

[Alekahn2]

i live
i am healed
i am endangered
i am crucified
i meditate
i am redeemed
i become sweet
i am nothing
i outweigh
i build myself up
(top to bottom
bottom to top)

~Rosicrucian (?) 1617

To which in 2017 I added the following:

i am not this body
i cross the threshold...

[Bill Ryan]

With malice toward none, with charity for all ... let us strive on to finish the work we are in .... to bind up the nation's wounds ... to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace.
Abraham Lincoln, 4 March 1865, at the close of his second inaugural address.

[Kryztian]

Most people are convinced that as long as they are not overtly forced to do something by an outside power, their decisions are theirs, and that if they want something, it is they who want it. But this is one of the great illusions we have about ourselves. A great number of our decisions are not really our own but are suggested to us from the outside; we have succeeded in persuading ourselves that it is we who have made the decision, whereas we have actually conformed with expectations of others, driven by the fear of isolation and by more direct threats to our life, freedom, and comfort.




~~~Erich Fromm

[Alekahn2]

"Our approach to reality dictates what level of anxiety we feel.
My approach to life on earth is that it's half classroom, half battlefield.
I expect to be tested. I expect to suffer. I expect to encounter evil.
I expect long campaigns. I expect it to be hard.
I expect to be held 100% accountable for my inner state and outer actions.
I am not here on vacation to be happy and fulfilled...

And yet, I see massive courage in this world, shining truth, exalted beauty,
deep kindness, endless creativity, miraculous healing, enriching wisdom,
and transformative love. Sometimes a bit. Sometimes a ton.
These are the character traits we are being taught, slowly but surely,
step by step. So many gifts from the creator. Hints at what is to come
after basic training in this world. For now it's about cultivating
right context and attitude. Good approach = abiding peace.
Bad approach = creeping anxiety."

~Neil Kramer

:bowing:

[Eva2]

This magnificent refuge is inside you.
Enter. Shatter the darkness that shrouds the doorway…
Be bold. Be humble.
Put away the incense and forget
the incantations they taught you.
Ask no permission from the authorities.
Close your eyes and follow your breath
to the still place that leads to the
invisible path that leads you home.
~ St. Theresa of Avila

I am out with lanterns looking for myself
- Emily Dickinson

[Alekahn2]

"Sell intelligence and talent
and buy pure wonder,
hurry towards humility."

~Rumi :heart2:

[Bill Ryan]

The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia.

Otto von Bismarck, 1863

[norman]

"Nearly all men can stand adversity but if you want to test a man's character give him power" - Abraham Lincoln

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."
~ Gandalf the Grey (The Lord of the Rings)

[kfm27917]

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his income depends on his not understanding it."

Upton Sinclair

[Jamie]

"Sometimes when you’re in a dark place, you think you’ve been buried, but you’ve actually been planted"
– Christine Caine

[kfm27917]

Change the way you look at things and
The thing you look at will change.

Shamyudha Ravindran

[Frankie Pancakes]

“Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.” ― Robert A. Heinlein

”You have the sum of all human knowledge and experience at your fingertips yet you use it to argue with strangers and watch cat videos.” unknown

“We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.” Ayn Rand

Knowledge is good but without wisdom it's highly dangerous. unknown

[grapevine]

“Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.”
- Anonymous -

[Bill Ryan]

I can calculate the motions of the heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people.

Sir Isaac Newton

[Mari]

Think like a wise man, but communicate in the language of the people.

William Butler Yeats.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken."
~ Oscar Wilde

[pueblo]

"In order to attain the impossible, one must attempt the absurd."

- Cervantes

[Kryztian]

https://i.imgur.com/j0RqzoL.jpeg

[kudzy]

“Now fight nicely!”
~ Mrs. Juba my seventh grade elementary school teacher

[Kryztian]

“Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don’t mean to do harm; but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.”




- - - T.S. Eliot, from "The Cocktail Party"

[kfm27917]

“The worst thing you can do in life is
underestimate your adversary.”

—PRESIDENT WILLIAM J. CLINTON ,

[norman]

“The worst thing you can do in life is
underestimate your adversary.”

—PRESIDENT WILLIAM J. CLINTON ,

waw, I can't help turning the quote I've brought to the thread into a reply to yours, on this occasion. they go together with hot topical clout.

Genocide is not a side effect - Dr Rima Laibow, 2024.

[Bill Ryan]

My wise and aged grandmother, trained in classics, used to have a motto that she would sometimes mutter under her breath in Latin. It's so true.
Some day it will amuse us to remember these things.​
After years of searching, I've found the source — from Virgil, in the first book of his Aeneid.

https://www.bolchazy.com/GetImage.ashx?Path=%7e%2fAssets%2fProductImages%2fP19.jpg&maintainAspectRatio=true

[Kryztian]

https://i.imgur.com/e1VxpCS.jpeg

[Eva2]

I have found that, to make a contented slave, it is necessary to make a thoughtless one. It is necessary to darken his moral and mental vision, and, as far as possible, to annihilate the power of reason. He must be able to detect no inconsistencies in slavery; he must be made to feel that slavery is right; and he can be brought to that only when he ceases to be a man.

Frederick Douglass

[pueblo]

"Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of whom they know nothing."

- Voltaire

[Bill Ryan]

He who is not angry when there is just cause for anger is immoral. Why? Because anger looks to the good of justice. And if you can live amid injustice without anger, you are immoral as well as unjust.

St Thomas Aquinas (1225—1274)

[norman]

A bad question is not a bad question, it is an attempt to impose false vocabulary - Sasha Latypova

[Tintin]

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/NOT_by_Erin_Hanson.jpg

[pueblo]

"What is, is God."

- Ramana

[Vicus]

"The Kennedy assassination has demonstrated that most of the major events of world significance are masterfully planned and orchestrated by an elite coterie of enormously powerful people who are not of one nation, one ethnic grouping, or one overridingly important business group. They are a power unto themselves for whom those others work. Neither is this power elite of recent origin. Its roots go deep into the past."

- Col. L. Fletcher Prouty

[Ewan]

No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man’s death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know,
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.
Each bell that tolls reminds us of our own mortality.
We are one.
As it goes for one it goes for us all. ~John Donne

[Bill Ryan]

I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: Oh Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. And God granted it.
Voltaire, May 1767

[Kryztian]

Without freedom of thought, there can be no such thing as wisdom; and no such thing as public liberty, without freedom of speech; which is the right of every man, as far as by it, he does not hurt or control the right of another: and this is the only check it ought to suffer, and the only bounds it ought to know. This sacred privilege is so essential to free governments, that the security of property, and the freedom of speech always go together; and in those wretched countries where a man cannot call his tongue his own, he can scarce call any thing else his own. Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation, must begin by subduing the freeness of speech; a thing terrible to public traitors. Freedom of speech is ever the symptom, as well as the effect of a good government. ~ Benjamin Franklin

[Frankie Pancakes]

I realize this thread is suggested to be Great quotes by the famous.
Here is a quote from a not famous...Eric Peters.

when I felt that scratch in my throat and my nose began to run a little but, I found I could not help thinking . . .

This is a measure of what’s been done to many of us – probably most if not all of us. Can anyone of us just catch a cold anymore without thinking, just a little bit, that it might be something more than just that?

Can we mention to anyone that we caught a cold without them thinking – even if they don’t say so out loud – that it might be something more than that?

God damn the people who did this to us.

[pueblo]

"Learn what you are and be such."

- Pindar

[grapevine]

"I wish that I could show you when you are lonely or in darkness the astonishing light of your own being."
- Hafiz, 14th century Persian Sufi poet

[pueblo]

"I am not what happened to me. I am what I choose to become."

- Carl Jung

[norman]

We have spread the gospel of rainbow secularism down the throats of much of the world with a puritanical zeal - Ben Dixon

[Eva2]

There is no bigger lie told about us Ashkenazim than we are "Europeans". We are the most distinct of all races. We are not even of the Human race let alone Europeans. We are utterly unique. Our features only blend with humans. Our facial features and proportions infinitely more perfect. We are Anunakim and Nephilim and our DNA is of the Gods. We have extra sensory perception, heightened awareness and increased sentience. We cannot be defeated by gentiles anymore than humans can be by other mammals. And I think you guys deep in your hearts know it and it drives you mad.

MIchael Cohen
American attorney

[Kryztian]

There is no bigger lie told about us Ashkenazim than we are "Europeans". We are the most distinct of all races. We are not even of the Human race let alone Europeans. We are utterly unique. Our features only blend with humans. Our facial features and proportions infinitely more perfect. We are Anunakim and Nephilim and our DNA is of the Gods. We have extra sensory perception, heightened awareness and increased sentience. We cannot be defeated by gentiles anymore than humans can be by other mammals. And I think you guys deep in your hearts know it and it drives you mad.

MIchael Cohen
American attorney


America is a golden calf and we will suck it dry, chop it up and sell it off, piece by piece, until there is nothing left but the world's biggest welfare state that we will create and control.

This is what we do to countries that we hate. We destroy them, very slowly.

Benjamin Netanyahu
Recorded at Finks Bar
Jerusalem 1990

I don't check the sources on all of my quotes, but when I see something like this, I usually do and would suggest others do so too.

I don't know as much about Michael Cohen, but Netanyahu is a war criminal and deserves to be put on trial. While he isn't being taken to the World Court in Hague, he faces trial everyday, here in the court of public opinion, which happens in everyday places, including on the internet and also here on Project Avalon. He has done and said plenty of awful things, and one can verify these things from reliable sources. This would constitute evidence against him.

Going to trial with bad, disprovable evidence is a sure way to lose your case. When you post fake quotes with no attribution, Netanyahu's defenders can now say - "Benjamin is such a great guy. Unfortunately, people think badly of him because there are liars out there who create untrue information about him" to which someone else replies "Yes, I see the fake quotes people on Project Avalon publish about him." to which the later person would be correct. Fake quotes hurt the case against the criminal, and it hurts the source that posts it.

There is lots and lots of good information here on Project Avalon about why Netanyahu is a war criminal , but it can't just be summed up into one simple quote. It takes time and patience to make the case for why he deserves to be imprisoned for a long, long time, and unfortunately, fake quotes distract from this.

[Raskolnikov]

"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."

Daniel Webster

[Eva2]

Quote from Twitter comes from a different person

[Bill Ryan]

Deceit indeed is but a measure of the smallness of mind of him who employs it, and simply shows that his intelligence is too meagrely equipped to enable him to arrive at his ends by just and reasonable methods.

No doubt the art of lying has been practised with success in diplomacy; but unlike that honesty which here as elsewhere is the best policy, a lie always leaves a drop of poison behind, and even the most dazzling diplomatic success gained by dishonesty stands on an insecure foundation, for it awakes in the defeated party a sense of aggravation, a desire for vengeance, and a hatred which must always be a menace to his foe.

François de Callières, French diplomat, 1716

[Kryztian]

Michael Cohen is an attorney who testified against Trump in the New York trial

Yes, I am aware that Cohen was Trumps attorney and turned against him. I meant to say, I was not aware of Cohen's writing and speaking style.

I searched his X/Twitter account and there is no such quote there. The closest thing I found to the one you posted is this:

https://i.imgur.com/gCk99tR.jpeg
https://twitter.com/MichaelCohen212/status/1680407766945472512

He is lambasting someone else for having a conspiracy theory about Ashkenazi Jews, not propagating such theories himself.

Looking through his other Twitter posts, it is indeed clear that he is indeed a lawyer, because he chooses his words very, very carefully. No matter how dark his heart or how crazy his ideas about race are, there is no way he would ever post a quote like this.


there are a number of sources, including witnesses, that have affirmed Netanyahu's "famous" statement at Finks Bar.

Can any of these witnesses be named? Have any of them told there stories? If Netanyahu actually said these words in a public place like Fink's Bar, it would have been an extraordinary moment and there would be interviews with the people who heard it. Can you point us to some?

I put part of quote into a search engine and there are numerous pages debunking this quote including Snopes. Snopes, or course, is a propaganda site, but their research is usually accurate, and posting quotes like this just gives them more ammo to be right.

The quote traces back to Gordon Duff in 2015, who openly admits that 30% of the "information" on his Veterans Today site is fake news. For more on Gordon Duff's garbage news site, see this Avalon thread: Veterans Today has jumped the shark (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?94556-Veterans-Today-has-jumped-the-shark).

[Eva2]

Deleted because this does not belong here

[Raskolnikov]

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[Raskolnikov]

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They saw it coming. These are also attributed to Jefferson:

“To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”

“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”

[Kryztian]

I will message you a link to a video that I'm uncomfortable posting on this thread which includes the statement made by Netanyahu at Finks Bar around the 11:50ish mark. I watched a video well over a year ago which included in part an interview with someone who was sitting at a table close to Netanyahu when he made this statement. It was a apparently a private conversation with Mossad agents at the table but it was overhead by others. The interviewee at the time said that Netanyahu was with Mossad agents. I don't doubt that sites like Bing and Yahoo have refuted this which is to be expected. I am trying to remember the video I watched with the interview but, so far, I can't find it - its been well over a year since I've seen it but if I come across it again, I'll send it to you. This "quote" has popped up in a number of places.

Yes, I can see why you probably would not want to post that video. It does have a screen shot of the quote:

https://i.imgur.com/JCfZY3l.jpeg

Perhaps a screenshot of a quote might be a bit more convincing, but it's hard to figure out who even made the video, other than the host who appears at the beginning and end. From watching a few clips at the beginning and the end, it is pretty clear that the only purpose of this video is to generate race hatred. The intro page says it is "A must watch for Every White Man and Woman !" and the final conclusion of the film animate a gold star and place it on an image of Klaus Schwab (Schwab is verifiably of Lutheran and Catholic descent, and his parents lineage would have been vetted by the Nazis) The host then writhes his head and contorts his face as he says: "All those stinking, mentally ill, depraved Jews from Poland and Russia and Ukraine and ... they run the world now ... they run the world now ... what were you doing."

People who's main focus is fomenting extreme racial, religious and ethnic hatred, in my experience, have the very lowest threshold of concern for factual truth. They have no interest in making you smarter but instead are just trying to increase the amount of hate you harbor. That screen shot of the quote makes the quote seem even more suspect when you see people like this spreading the information.



I don't know who Gordon Duff is and have never visited his site.
Well, as of this point, he seems to be the originator of this quote in 2015. Unless there some other documented evidence of people discussing it before that time.



Just got sent the the twitter link of Feb. 3: https://twitter.com/gentilenewsnet/status/1783970314839261658?s=46&t=MkVtSeDrr4gLhE1LWKJJwQ&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR2VlKYHHBBhNCdDY9ucZzB2gv8Hz11BB-NSpzNraJ313nuy60pS5oUPkC8_aem_AT0EIpl5nUjVTK8CTJEE7uZOTATkkU8MwRKLcv7i3YaglPhrX3L4k0IbTmVbcSa_Sh_uaa 1UkOVc64hvTG_ooKYc

That Twitter account is from "Gentile News Network". The image below shows a post by a Michael Cohen to a "THE SEERS" account. Not sure the photo of the Michael Cohen here is the same as that as the attorney of Donald Trump. It is a common enough name. Even if it is, it is not a retweet from Michael Dean Cohen, since this is an image of a post (and not a twitter post). It could come from another social media site, or it could be completely fake. Anything authentically posted on Twitter by Michael Dean Cohen would say "@MichaelCohen212".


https://i.imgur.com/0qpucF8.jpeg

[Eva2]

As I mentioned in the post you responded to, this is not a thread where this "discussion" should be taking place and I am very uncomfortable continuing it here which is why I messaged you in the first place. However, I will give a "surface" response to your comments.

Well, the Cohen post clearly has a twitter link so one could safely assume it IS from a twitter account. I had assumed it was from the attorney Michael Cohen as the comments that were shared with the post had some stating it was from the attorney Cohen. When the link was forwarded to me, I saw that the original post did not come from a Cohen account so I stand corrected on this.

As for the video, it is clear that you haven't watched this and just cherry picked a couple of sentences that fit with the conclusion you want to present. The producer of this well researched video is Alexander Life, PhD, Psychologist, Historian and Author. The "hate" in this 3 part series (in this one video) is indeed very disturbing and graphic on both sides but also revealing and is really about a select group of people, not a race, who want to create a new religion/belief system and are the architects behind the intent, laying the foundation for global domination (the Khazarian Mafia). It is a stark, no holds barred documentary and it is indeed an uncomfortable watch but does give, I think, a good historical backdrop to current events. It went sort of viral and received a good bit of feedback. It seems to have since been shadow banned and Life himself appears to have been erased from the internet, or so far as I can tell as a tech dinosaur. When the videos first came out there was a good bit of accessible bio/info on this guy which, from what I can see, has now disappeared. For me, it was a once only viewing - it is hard to watch/hear much of the content but it does connect a lot of dots.

As for the Netanyahu quote, I still have a vague memory of a video containing a brief interview with someone who was in the bar at the same time this all went down. It is not surprising to me that all these "fact checkers" are now stating its false info. But there are also a number of spots where it has been posted and maybe there is even a place on another web browser. I am definitely on the fence with this one.

I will be erasing my comments soon as it is not meant for this forum thread and I will not be responding to any more post on this matter. Thank you.

[kfm27917]

None of the bailed-out financiers here at #Davos2016 who live in Greenwich & collect Lamborghinis can understand why US voters are unhappy.


Rudy Havenstein, Senior Markets Commentator

[Raskolnikov]

"Michael Angelo and I may be considered extravagant, but as for me, if you simply mention art, I cannot be calm. I can go down on my knees before one of those decayed and venerable old masters that you have to put a sign on to tell which side of it you are looking at, and I do not want any bread, I do not want any meat, I do not want any air to breathe—I can live, in the tone and the feeling of it. Expression—expression is the thing—in art. I do not care what it expresses, and I cannot most always sometimes tell, generally, but expression is what I worship, it is what I glory in, with all my impetuous nature."

Mark Twain




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[Hermoor]

Glen Stanish quoting from Ephesians 5:11 in Christopher Bollyn's book 'Solving 9/11: The Deception That Changed The World':

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them."

Glen Stanish's website can be browsed via this link:

https://www.glenstanishbooks.com/

The diamond that is Bollyn's book is even more relevant than ever. The same grubby pawprints that were all over 9/11 and convid are the same grubby pawprints now trying to ignite WW3!

[grapevine]

"Feeling angry about injustice is a sign of a functioning brain."
George Galloway

[norman]

Mutilated Truths make the most successful lies - Altiyan Childs

[norman]

Conciousness, the freedom to think, is a fundamental human right. The idea of violating free will is something that even God doesn't do.

Nick Begich (in the film, Programming The Nation)

[Raskolnikov]

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[grapevine]

“For me the world is weird because it is stupendous, awesome, mysterious, unfathomable;
my interest has been to convince you that you must assume responsibility for being here,
in this marvellous world, in this marvellous desert, in this marvellous time.”


- Carlos Casteneda -

[Raskolnikov]

"The first thing philosophy promises us is the feeling of fellowship, of belonging to mankind and being members of a community; being different will mean the abandoning of that manifesto."

Seneca

[Eva2]

“Truth is not knowable, it transcends knowing. It is beyond the ability of mind to analyze, to figure out, to dissect, or to comprehend.” -Papaji

[Tintin]

“There are others who seem to live in a most curious condition of consciousness, as if the state they had arrived at today were final, with no possibility of change, or as if the world and the psyche were static and would remain so forever. They seemed devoid of all imagination, and they entirely and exclusively depended upon their sense-perception. Chances and possibilities did not exist in their world, and in ‘today’ there was no real ‘tomorrow.’ The future was just the repetition of the past.”
— C.G. Jung
“Man and His Symbols”

[Sue (Ayt)]

Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind;
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

John Donne

[kfm27917]

...any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

Arthur Clarke

[Bill Ryan]

Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind;
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

John DonneA passing thought. Every time I consider a Great Quote from several hundred years ago (John Donne lived from 1571—1631), I'm mindful of the wonderfully high intellect and spiritual awareness of so many of the great minds that lived in centuries past — with no means of mass communication, writing letters with quill pens by candlelight that were delivered on horseback sometimes many weeks later.

(Even George Mallory's letters to his wife, written on Mount Everest in 1924, were taken to the coast by Sherpa runners, hundreds of miles away, where they then found their way to England by steamship — and they always arrived, too. It really does bear thinking about.)

:focus:

[Michel Leclerc]

Thank you Bill.

Those people wrote, they did not push buttons. The mobilisation of all their bodily, incarnational instruments implied that their words meant what they meant. They did not only telephone (voicing) or telegraph (writing): they “telepathed”. They “telekineticked” vibrations in the bodies of the receivers of their messages. They did as a matter of day-to-day communication what nowadays only poets still do. What we mean these days – the vibrations of our meaning things – is erased by the electrified tools we use. People receive the ashes of our meanings, or, as Baudrillard would say, the simulacra.

[Sue (Ayt)]

Thank you Bill.

Those people wrote, they did not push buttons. The mobilisation of all their bodily, incarnational instruments implied that their words meant what they meant. They did not only telephone (voicing) or telegraph (writing): they “telepathed”. They “telekineticked” vibrations in the bodies of the receivers of their messages. They did as a matter of day-to-day communication what nowadays only poets still do. What we mean these days – the vibrations of our meaning things – is erased by the electrified tools we use. People receive the ashes of our meanings, or, as Baudrillard would say, the simulacra.

So true, Michel.
I fondly miss the letters in the mail that I used to write and anticipate receiving so dearly.
It was one of my greatest joys, for some reason... and even as a child I had penpals from all over the world.
To me, it was almost magical.

And love letters to wrap with a ribbon and stash in a pretty box for future generations... oh my.
Do they still exist?
:rose:
fEKEKrAjsD0

[Raskolnikov]

Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind;
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

John DonneA passing thought. Every time I consider a Great Quote from several hundred years ago (John Donne lived from 1571—1631), I'm mindful of the wonderfully high intellect and spiritual awareness of so many of the great minds that lived in centuries past — with no means of mass communication, writing letters with quill pens by candlelight that were delivered on horseback sometimes many weeks later.

(Even George Mallory's letters to his wife, written on Mount Everest in 1924, were taken to the coast by Sherpa runners, hundreds of miles away, where they then found their way to England by steamship — and they always arrived, too. It really does bear thinking about.)

:focus:

And then to turn the "letters of high intellect delivered on horseback" into metaphor, where do these eloquent thoughts come from in the first place? Clearly the mind is just the tool we fine tune until it becomes the clear receiver, the radio turning into the different broadcasts, the many and varied vibrations Michel Leclerc spoke of, that we need it to be. It's ironic that the further back in time you wander down that road of great poets and philosophers, the greater the intellect and awareness. This appears to go hand in hand with the great architecture found all over the world, evidence of a once great civilization that had a real working knowledge in sacred geometry and the great secrets of the universe. I wish to read the ancient scrolls and tomes hidden away beneath the Vatican. How do we ever really know what our true history is in this world since it's been burned, stolen, buried at sea, locked away..? The wisest words of all seem to be two of the earliest ever recorded: "Know Thyself." And this line of thinking, of telepaths receiving messages, always takes me back to the sibyls of ancient Greece, wise women who trained since childhood to reveal the message of the oracles and the words supposedly written in their room in the Temple of Apollo in Delphi:

“I warn you, whoever you are, Oh! You who want to probe the “Arcana of Nature”, that if you do not find “within yourself” that which you are looking for, you shall not find it outside either! If you ignore the excellences of your own house, how do you pretend to find other excellences? Within you is hidden the treasure of treasures! “Know Thyself” and you will know the Universe and the Gods.”


p.s. I miss letters in the mail too...

[Violet3]

Thank you Bill.

Those people wrote, they did not push buttons. The mobilisation of all their bodily, incarnational instruments implied that their words meant what they meant. They did not only telephone (voicing) or telegraph (writing): they “telepathed”. They “telekineticked” vibrations in the bodies of the receivers of their messages. They did as a matter of day-to-day communication what nowadays only poets still do. What we mean these days – the vibrations of our meaning things – is erased by the electrified tools we use. People receive the ashes of our meanings, or, as Baudrillard would say, the simulacra.

So true, Michel.
I fondly miss the letters in the mail that I used to write and anticipate receiving so dearly.
It was one of my greatest joys, for some reason... and even as a child I had penpals from all over the world.
To me, it was almost magical.

And love letters to wrap with a ribbon and stash in a pretty box for future generations... oh my.
Do they still exist?
:rose:
fEKEKrAjsD0

Yes I love mail and send postcards to those who still care about opening a real mail box. Years ago while living in Canada for a year I fell in love through the mail, with a friend from back home that I discovered was a superb writer. There is nothing like the heartfelt written word, penned in private reverie and released into the future. Back to topic :bigsmile:

[Raskolnikov]

Yes I love mail and send postcards to those who still care about opening a real mail box. Years ago while living in Canada for a year I fell in love through the mail, with a friend from back home that I discovered was a superb writer. There is nothing like the heartfelt written word, penned in private reverie and released into the future. Back to topic :bigsmile:

I had a friend who used to send postcards. I always thought that was so cool, like a lover slipping a note under your door, those were always my favorite. Something very intimate about a line on the page. To my point, this line is stellar: There is nothing like the heartfelt written word, penned in private reverie and released into the future. I love the future twist, very intriguing. And it's true, a heartfelt line written on the page has always left a more profound impact upon me over the years. I used the written word to help heal the past, say a sorrowful or painful experience that just isn't sitting right. Turn it into a story and inject some humor into it, you know, transform a past pain into something beautiful or humorous or both. Good honest reflection like that can also teach you a lot about yourself, pinpoint core values and flaws to work on. So many brilliant minds who put pen to paper (by candlelight?), where are they now? You're so right, a heartfelt word will always make it into the future...


"Great thoughts come not so much from great intelligence as from great feeling."


Dostoevsky


P.s. and afterthought: I just noticed that I read one of your lines wrong. I thought you fell in love with corresponding through the mail with a friend from home who you discovered was a superb writer. Now I see you "fell in love" with the writer. Congratulations! The power of the heartfelt word, indeed. My wife and I endured a long distance relationship our first year and a half together. Luckily we were both in school so it helped us really focus on our studies between monthly visits while giving us something to look forward to as well:kiss:. Because it was the early days of the internet, it wasn't actually letters in the mail. But those daily emails formed a bond that will never be broken.

[Kryztian]

"once you’ve been to hell and back,
you don’t look behind you when the floor creaks
and the sun is always up at midnight
and things like the eyes of mice
or an abandoned tire in a vacant lot
can make you smile
once you’ve been to hell and back.”

–Charles Bukowski

[Raskolnikov]

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[kfm27917]

“We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying.”

Attributed to Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn

[Raskolnikov]

This one almost qualifies for your film thread Ewan:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WfbRJYKlM0


"Every night and every morn
Some to misery are born,
Every morn and every night
Some are born to sweet delight.

Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night."

William Blake

[Raskolnikov]

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"A jealous man is gloomy . . . for the same reason that tyrants are gloomy—they know what they are up to."

Diderot

[Eva2]

“You may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.”

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”

“The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.”

“If your hate could be turned into electricity, it would light up the whole world.”

“What we now want is closer contact and better understanding between individuals and communities all over the earth, and the elimination of egoism and pride which is always prone to plunge the world into primeval barbarism and strife... Peace can only come as a natural consequence of universal enlightenment...”


― Nikola Tesla

[Raskolnikov]

". . I care that they don't have any of their own”


So on point. These quotes shoot holes through the WEF's, "You'll own nothing and be happy."



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[Sue (Ayt)]

“Medical Science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left.”

― Aldous Huxley

[kfm27917]

Experience teaches only the teachable.

- Aldous Huxley

[Raskolnikov]

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https://minimalistquotes.com/posterimages/where-your-talents-and-the-needs-of-the-world-cros.jpg

[Frankie Pancakes]

Robert Frost

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

[pueblo]

"Whoever wants music instead of noise, joy instead of pleasure, soul instead of gold, creative work instead of business, passion instead of foolery, finds no home in this trivial world of ours."

- Hermann Hesse

[Raskolnikov]

I'm going to stretch the boundaries of "Great Quotes" a bit to include two excerpts from the book, Zen & the Art of Making a Living, because I think they follow the last couple of entries nicely. If you're still not buying it, there are a couple quotes contained within the excepts;)



"Modern life has altogether too much ugliness. This is doubly so since most of it is so unnecessary. The ugliness of poverty may be excused, but the ugliness of the mediocre, the bland, and the lifeless is an appalling waste. Beauty sensitizes the soul—evoking the finer, subtler feelings and inspiring noble thoughts. Ugliness depresses and diminishes life—sapping the creative spirit of the individual and weakening the character of society.
There is unnecessary ugliness, not only in the things we make, but in the way we make them. Mass production ensures that quantity dominates quality, and profit rules beauty. White collar or blue, the worker is taken to be a machine. Engaged, not as a whole person, but as a tool of production, he becomes alienated from his work and himself. No wonder the worker is more interested in sports or gossip than in his or her work. No wonder, in the words of popular bumper talk, he “would rather be fishing” or she “would rather be shopping.” Work devoid of meaning and spirit, work without the discipline and satisfaction of a job well done, is work without joy. So work has gotten a bad name, and we live for the weekends. Art curator and philosopher Ananda K. Coomaraswamy put it like this: 'It is taken for granted that while at work we are doing what we like least, and at play what we should wish to be doing all the time.'"


"The pleasure in art, both in its practice and in its contemplation is meditation, that is, the arresting of the mind. We lose ourselves in art. As Arthur Schopenhauer noted, the contemplation of great art switches off the sense of “other.” As we merge our consciousness with the art object, we lose the sense of ourselves as a thing apart. This “loss of self” is extremely pleasurable—echoing the transcendent bliss of the mystics. Likewise, in the practice of art, the sense of self is lost in ecstatic absorption. One loses oneself and gains eternity. Moving safely between the twin whirlwinds of desire and repulsion, the artist enters into paradise. While here on earth, attending to the most practical of affairs (his daily work), the artist, as Blake would say, “travels in his mind to Heaven.” This is Zen at work, the essence of work as art—self-liberation."

[Eva2]

'It is during the phase of culmination that the rotting fruit expels the new seed into the light of day. The end holds potential for the beginning. The radical extent to which the global control mechanism has accelerated is being laid bare, the masks of the gods have fallen. Conspiracy theories once damned as delusional are now seen as not only plausible but concrete.
We are experiencing a world that is in the clutches of forces which we are finally beginning to openly and bravely evaluate.The realisation of the predatory and merciless nature of those who are running this reality is awakening a great number of individuals through the Internet and is pervading the collective field of shared consciousness. Many are now, to varying degrees, working with this realisation and struggling to accept it. However religions ( including the New Age) have a built-in prophecy designed to compartmentalise the end game scenario as a part of the sin/saviour karma/atonement Armageddon clause. As a result the present acceleration of degeneracy, debasement and debauchery in world affairs and elite cultures is registered and accredited to the prophecies of their chosen faith.
Disenchantment is required in order to fully recognise and appreciate the convolution of the situation. It will help you to understand what is happening around you. What it is you are experiencing. Why it is happening and your potentially congruous and feasible response to the events unfolding around you. The assessment that the construct of this paradigm is beyond redemption breaks down barriers of denial and prepares you to reconsider the reason you chose to incarnate at such a time. What we are about to achieve is extraordinary. we did not come here to suffer the apocalypse...we came to embody the solution...to harness these energies of culmination...to collectively construct the transcendent reality resonant with our original blueprint prior to genetic modification.'

Juliet J Carter
The Template

[grapevine]

“I've never met an animal I didn't like, and I can't say the same thing about people.”


- Doris Day -

[Raskolnikov]

"The assessment that the construct of this paradigm is beyond redemption breaks down barriers of denial and prepares you to reconsider the reason you chose to incarnate at such a time. What we are about to achieve is extraordinary. we did not come here to suffer the apocalypse...we came to embody the solution...to harness these energies of culmination...to collectively construct the transcendent reality resonant with our original blueprint prior to genetic modification."

So good. And yet "suffer the apocalypse" we most certainly do, not the catastrophic end and damnation they wish us to believe, but the revelation of - everything, of our God-given rights, of who we are and have always been, of our true history and our sublime connection to all life, both what we can and can't see with our limited vision. Thanks Eva2, good stuff. Love the masks of the gods and the point on the necessity of disenchantment.


"...religions ( including the New Age) have a built-in prophecy designed to compartmentalise the end game scenario as a part of the sin/saviour karma/atonement Armageddon clause. As a result the present acceleration of degeneracy, debasement and debauchery in world affairs and elite cultures is registered and accredited to the prophecies of their chosen faith."

"Today, even art has become commercialized. It has become a tool for profit and, therefore, a means for better controlling the environment, rather than the revelation of deep inner experience. The same can be said of much of religion, which is often nothing more than a social club. Religion is used as a means of abating the loneliness and isolation of an existence lived without an experience of spirit. It has, to a large degree, lost its fire, its bliss. Philosophy has been left to the technical specialists, and wisdom, especially in high places, runs in short supply." ibid

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[pueblo]

"Educate the children and it won't be necessary to punish the men."

-Pythagoras

[Raskolnikov]

"To know that you do not know is the best. To pretend to know when you do not know is a disease."
Lao Tzu


"Without love the acquisition of knowledge only increases confusion and leads to self-destruction."
J. Krishnamurti

[Raskolnikov]

"Art and life, through the Beautiful and the Sublime, call us to the Quest and nourish us along the way. To the sensitive heart, Beauty, the radiance of the veiled Grail, calls one out of the world of convention. Stop and think of it. What are the world’s great scriptures, poetry, mythology, music, paintings, etc.? Beauty! Beauty is, as Plato said, “the splendor of truth”—not truth itself—only its reflection. Beauty is the transcendent made transparent in the world of form and time. The perception of beauty in nature and art stimulates the sensitive beholder to seek its source. It starts the hero on the Grail Quest, and if he achieves it, then he too will make things of Beauty which will call the next generation of heroes to the questing life."

"The word hero is etymologically related to heresy and heretic. All three are derived from the Greek hairetikos, meaning 'able to choose.'"

"Fear not: You can bear the pains of hell and translate them into a new song. As all heroes before you, you must conquer the pains of hell. Open eyes will shed tears, for this world is full of sorrow. The flames of hell reflected in wet pools of tender eyes blaze brilliant the light of love. The sorrow of the world humbles and purifies all idle vanities. Look upon the world, stripped bare, not in a blank stare, but gently with eyes that care."

Zen & the Art of Making a Living (last time, I promise)

[grapevine]

"It may seem a strange principle to enunciate as the very first requirement in a hospital that it should do the sick no harm."
Florence Nightingale

[kfm27917]

“Think of the life you have lived until now as over and, as a dead man, see what’s left as a bonus and live it according to Nature. ”
Marcus Aurelius

[kfm27917]

Dance, as though no one is watching,
Love, as though you've never been hurt before,
Sing, as though no one can hear you,
Live, as though heaven is on earth.
Rumi ❤️

[kfm27917]

Socrates said, “The misuse of language induces evil in the soul.”

He wasn’t talking about grammar. To misuse language is to use it the way politicians and advertisers do, for profit, without taking responsibility for what the words mean. Language used as a means to get power or make money goes wrong: it lies. Language used as an end in itself, to sing a poem or tell a story, goes right, goes towards the truth. A writer is a person who cares what words mean, what they say, how they say it. Writers know words are their way towards truth and freedom, and so they use them with care, with thought, with fear, with delight. By using words well they strengthen their souls. Story-tellers and poets spend their lives learning that skill and art of using words well. And their words make the souls of their readers stronger, brighter, deeper.

[kfm27917]

Hell is empty and all the devils are here...

W Skakespeare

[Raskolnikov]

Socrates said, “The misuse of language induces evil in the soul.”

He wasn’t talking about grammar. To misuse language is to use it the way politicians and advertisers do, for profit, without taking responsibility for what the words mean. Language used as a means to get power or make money goes wrong: it lies. Language used as an end in itself, to sing a poem or tell a story, goes right, goes towards the truth. A writer is a person who cares what words mean, what they say, how they say it. Writers know words are their way towards truth and freedom, and so they use them with care, with thought, with fear, with delight. By using words well they strengthen their souls. Story-tellers and poets spend their lives learning that skill and art of using words well. And their words make the souls of their readers stronger, brighter, deeper.


It's so true. Look how they've turned the word "liberal" on its head:

"I have no respect for any study whatsoever if its end is the making of money. Such studies are to me unworthy ones. They involve the putting out of skills to hire, and are only of value in so far as they may develop the mind without occupying it for long. Time should be spent on them only so long as one’s mental abilities are not up to dealing with higher things. They are our apprenticeship, not our real work. Why ‘liberal studies’ are so called is obvious: it is because they are the ones considered worthy of a free man. (a liber) But there is really only one liberal study that deserves the name – because it makes a person free – and that is the pursuit of wisdom. Its high ideals, its steadfastness and spirit make all other studies puerile and puny in comparison. Do you really think there is anything to be said for the others when you find among the people who profess to teach them quite the most reprehensible and worthless characters you could have as teachers?"

"A sound mind can neither be bought nor borrowed. And if it were for sale, I doubt whether it would find a buyer. And yet unsound ones are being purchased every day."

Seneca

[Raskolnikov]

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"Similarly, people who never relax and people who are invariably in a relaxed state merit your disapproval—the former as much as the latter. For a delight in bustling about is not industry—it is only the restless energy of a hunted mind. And the state of mind that looks on all activity as tiresome is not true repose, but a spineless inertia. This prompts me to memorize something which I came across in Pomponius. ‘Some men have shrunk so far into dark corners that objects in bright daylight seem quite blurred to them.’ A balanced combination of the two attitudes is what we want; the active man should be able to take things easily, while the man who is inclined towards repose should be capable of action. Ask nature: she will tell you that she made both day and night."

"Limiting one’s desires actually helps to cure one of fear. ‘Cease to hope,’ he (Hecato) says, ‘and you will cease to fear.’ . . . Widely different though they are, the two of them march in unison like a prisoner and the escort he is handcuffed to. Fear keeps pace with hope . . . both belong to a mind in suspense, to a mind in a state of anxiety through looking into the future. Both are mainly due to projecting our thoughts far ahead of us instead of adapting ourselves to the present. Thus it is that foresight, the greatest blessing humanity has been given, is transformed into a curse."

"The miser, the swindler, the bully, the cheat, who would do you a lot of harm by simply being near you, are actually inside you. Move to better company: live with the Catos, with Laelius, with Tubero. If you like Greek company too, attach yourself to Socrates and Zeno: the one would teach you how to die should it be forced upon you, the other how to die before it is forced upon you. Live with Chrysippus, live with Posidonius; they will give you a knowledge of man and the universe; they will tell you to be a practical philosopher: not just to entertain your listeners to a clever display of language, but to steel your spirit and brace it against whatever threatens. For the only safe harbour in this life’s tossing, troubled sea is to refuse to be bothered about what the future will bring and to stand ready and confident, squaring the breast to take without skulking or flinching whatever fortune hurls at us."

"Part of my joy in learning is that it puts me in a position to teach; nothing, however outstanding and however helpful, will ever give me any pleasure if the knowledge is to be for my benefit alone. If wisdom were offered me on the one condition that I should keep it shut away and not divulge it to anyone, I should reject it. There is no enjoying the possession of anything valuable unless one has someone to share it with."

Seneca

[gini]

'This speech was broadcast by legendary ABC Radio
commentator Paul Harvey on April 3, 1965':
If I were the Devil . . . I mean, if I were the Prince of
Darkness, I would, of course, want to engulf the whole
earth in darkness. I would have a third of its real estate
and four-fifths of its population, but I would not be
happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree, so I
should set about however necessary to take over the
United States. I would begin with a campaign of
whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would
whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: “Do as you
please.” “Do as you please.” To the young, I would
whisper, “The Bible is a myth.” I would convince them
that man created God instead of the other way around. I
would confide that what is bad is good, and what is good
is “square.” In the ears of the young marrieds, I would
whisper that work is debasing, that cocktail parties are
good for you. I would caution them not to be extreme in
religion, in patriotism, in moral conduct. And the old, I
would teach to pray. I would teach them to say after me:
“Our Father, which art in Washington” . . . If I were the
devil, I’d educate authors in how to make lurid literature
exciting so that anything else would appear dull an
uninteresting. I’d threaten T.V. with dirtier movies and
vice versa. And then, if I were the devil, I’d get
organized. I’d infiltrate unions and urge more loafing
and less work, because idle hands usually work for me.
I’d peddle narcotics to whom I could. I’d sell alcohol to
ladies and gentlemen of distinction. And I’d tranquilize
the rest with pills. If I were the devil, I would encourage
schools to refine young intellects, but neglect to
discipline emotions . . . let those run wild. I would
designate an athiest to front for me before the highest
courts in the land and I would get preachers to say “she’s
right.” With flattery and promises of power, I could get
the courts to rule what I construe as against God and in
favor of pornography, and thus, I would evict God from
the courthouse, and then from the school house, and then
from the houses of Congress and then, in His own
churches, I would substitute psychology for religion, and
I would deify science because that way men would
become smart enough to create super weapons but not
wise enough to control them. If I were Satan, I’d make
the symbol of Easter an egg, and the symbol of
Christmas, a bottle. If I were the devil, I would take
from those who have and I would give to those who
wanted, until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious.
And then, my police state would force everybody back to
work. Then, I could separate families, putting children
in uniform, women in coal mines, and objectors in slave camps.
In other words, if I were Satan, I’d just keep on
doing what he’s doing.
Paul Harvey, Good Day-----S9NoQHgjM_0

[grapevine]

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[kfm27917]

“May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won’t.”

George Patton

[kfm27917]

Life without liberty is like a body without spirit.

- Kahlil Gibran

[Raskolnikov]

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“What is a juror? A wasp that is anxious to sting his victims. What is a general? A donkey driver who leads men to death. What is war? A senseless game created by politicians for their own ends. What is peace? Pacification through extermination. What is a politician? An unscrupulous scoundrel who lives solely to take advantage of others. What is a theologian? Another scoundrel who mystifies people with things nobody understands. What is democracy? A form of oligarchy in which the dregs of society assume control. What is the government? A group of clever fools who have seized power to promote their own advantage and abuse the people, who are greater fools. What is a philosopher? A madman who lives suspended in a hanging basket, endlessly talking nonsense about this and that, and only succeeding in disorienting those who listen to him. What is a Sophist? Another madman who employs language to manipulate people and become wealthy. What is a scientist? A demented man characterized by arrogance, who spends his time thinking about the stars and the shape of the earth. What is love? Normally nothing but a camouflaged sexual urge. What is education? The process by which young persons are indoctrinated in the ways of the old and by which they grow effeminate and lazy.”

A dictionary of new meanings constructed from the comedies of Aristophanes.

Diogenes the Cynic, Luis E. Navia.


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[Eva2]

I don't complain about the lack of time ... what little I have will go far enough. Today - this day - will achieve what no tomorrow will fail to speak about. I will lay siege to the gods and shake up the world.

Seneca, Medea, 423-425

[Raskolnikov]

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[Raskolnikov]

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"There are three codes of law under which men have lived—the code of nature, the civil code, and the laws of religion. They have been obliged to violate each of these codes in turn because they have never been in harmony. The result has been that nowhere do we find anyone . . . who can be called at once a man, a citizen, and a believer."

"There are no laws for a wise man . . . Every law has its exceptions, and it takes wisdom to decide which cases come under the rule and which are to be dealt with as exceptions.
Reply: I wouldn’t be too sorry if there were one or two fellows like you in town; but if everybody thought as you do, I’d move somewhere else!"

Diderot

[Ioneo]

This moment contains all moments.

C. S. Lewis

The fruit of silence is tranquility.

Arabian Proverb

[Raskolnikov]

"It’s an astounding thing how man believes in words. If he’s told he’s a fool, for instance, though he’s not thrashed, he’ll be wretched; call him a clever fellow, and he’ll be delighted if you go off without paying him."

Ivan Turgenev

[kfm27917]

Mark Twain is claimed to have said, “If you don’t read the newspaper, you’re uninformed. If you do read the newspaper, you’re misinformed.”

[Raskolnikov]

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"The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, and intolerable."

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

H. L. Mencken

[Eva2]

"To be effective, propaganda must constantly short-circuit all thought and decision. It must operate on the individual at the level of the unconscious. He must not know that he is being shaped by outside forces ... but some central core in him must be reached in order to release the mechanism in the unconscious which will provide the appropriate - and expected - action."
by Jacques Ellul

[kfm27917]

"Being unconquerable
lies within yourself."

Sun Tzu


"To win true freedom
you must be a slave to philosophy."

Seneca

[Kryztian]

"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted."
-- Martin Luther King, Jr.

[Raskolnikov]

"They are a satanic cult of a$$holes."

Alex Jones

Think he needs some help from the "a$$hole hippies from outer space."

[Tintin]

George Orwell (Eric Blair), from 1943:



“Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. I saw great battles reported where there had been no fighting, and complete silence where hundreds of men had been killed. I saw troops who had fought bravely denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot fired hailed as heroes of imaginary victories; and I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various “party lines.” ― George Orwell, Homage to Catalonia

[Michel Leclerc]

William Burroughs, from his lesser known masterpiece from 1963, Dead Fingers Talk, the first paragraph of the chapter with the title “the board books”:

"In three-dimensional terms The Board is a group representing international big money who intend to take over and monopolize space—They have their own space arrangements privately owned and consider the governmental space programs a joke—The Board Books are records pertaining to anyone who can be of use to their program or anyone who could endanger it—The Board Books are written in symbols referring to association blocks—Like this: $—"American upper middle class upbringing with maximum sexual frustration and humiliations imposed by Middle Western Matriarchs;" %—"Criminal street boy upbringing—Oriented towards money and power—Easily corrupted" and so forth—The board agents learn to think in these association blocks and board instructions are conveyed in the board book symbols—The Board is a three dimensional and essentially stupid pressure group relying on money, equipment, information, files, and the technical brains they have bought—As word dust falls and their control machine is disconnected by partisan activity they'll be in the bread line without clothes or a dime to buy their "dogs" their "gooks" their "errand boys" their "human animals"—Liars—Cowards—Collaborators—Traitors—Liars who want time for more lies—Cowards who can not face your "human animals" with the truth—Collaborators with Insect People, with Vegetable People—With any people anywhere who offer them a body forever—Traitors to all souls everywhere sold out to s**t forever—"

(Burroughs writing the penultimate word without asterisks)

[edina]

"Cultivate the ability to see the ridiculous, and to retain the ability to laugh."
Edgar Cayce reading 2984-1



Looks like we're going to need this skill in the coming times.

[Bill Ryan]

Laws are spider webs through which the big flies pass and the little ones get caught.

Honore de Balzac (1799—1850)

[kfm27917]

What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite

Bertrand Russell

[ZenBaller]

One is never afraid of the unknown; one is afraid of the known coming to an end.

~ Jiddu Krishnamurti

[Kryztian]

https://i.imgur.com/xSaZ1lT.jpeg

[norman]

"You're making it too complicated. You're counting the herd by counting the legs and dividing by four" - Dr Lee Merit, during a round table podcast.

[Kryztian]

https://i.imgur.com/De8kGVr.jpeg

[Kryztian]

https://i.imgur.com/KsCPPAk.jpeg




vvvvv

[Bill Ryan]

An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes.
Misattributed to Sun Tzu and probably more recent — but a great quote anyway

[kfm27917]

There are periods in the life of humanity, which generally coincide with the beginning of the fall of cultures and civilizations, when the masses irretrievably lose their reason and begin to destroy everything that has been created by centuries and millennia of culture. Such periods of mass madness, often coinciding with geological cataclysms, climate changes, and similar phenomena of a planetary character, release a very great quantity of the matter of knowledge.

- George Ivanovich Gurdjieff

[Raskolnikov]

The swiftest is mind, for it speeds everywhere.
The strongest, necessity, for it masters all.
The wisest, time, for it brings everything to light.


He held there was no difference between life and death.
“Why then,” said one, “do you not die?”
“Because,” said he, “there is no difference.”

To the adulterer who inquired if he should deny the charge upon oath he replied that perjury was no worse than adultery.

To the question what was the strangest thing he had ever seen, his answer was, “An aged tyrant.”

To him belongs the proverb, "Know thyself."





https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/6515556-Thales-Quote-If-there-is-a-change-there-must-be-some-thing-that.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate.

John F. Kennedy

[Vicus]

There are periods in the life of humanity, which generally coincide with the beginning of the fall of cultures and civilizations, when the masses irretrievably lose their reason and begin to destroy everything that has been created by centuries and millennia of culture. Such periods of mass madness, often coinciding with geological cataclysms, climate changes, and similar phenomena of a planetary character, release a very great quantity of the matter of knowledge.

- George Ivanovich Gurdjieff

[Raskolnikov]

They say that great inventions were often discovered by more than one person at the same time, sometimes scores from the four corners (there's a loaded phrase) of the Earth. An idea whose time has come. May be more to this ethernet than meets the eye...

"...periods of mass madness...release a very great quantity of the matter of knowledge."

[Mari]

Age is something that doesn't matter, unless you are a cheese 🧀

luis Bunuel

[Raskolnikov]

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-i-fell-asleep-reading-a-dull-book-and-dreamed-i-kept-on-reading-so-i-awoke-from-sheer-heinrich-heine-12-88-26.jpg

[grapevine]

"When I get a letter from the BBC addressed to " Occupier" to pay my licence fee I send it to the Israeli embassy." A great idea.
- Craig Murray -

[Raskolnikov]

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Flookaside.fbsbx.com%2Flookaside%2Fcrawler%2Fmedia%2F%3Fmedia_id%3D209518267932407&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=98a291180ebc74ba92ef5c2509e8ba46e95ed0c1939b6ba0ac7d0f00b823ffcf&ipo=images

[Raskolnikov]

Saturday night edition...

"A cocktail or several, before dinner, enabled me to laugh wholeheartedly at things which had long since ceased being laughable." Jack London

"When I have a martini, I feel bigger, wiser, taller. When I have a second, I feel superlative. When I have more, there’s no holding me." W. Faulkner

"He was a good companion until he drank too much and, at that time, when he was lying, he was more interesting than many men telling a true story." Hemingway

[kfm27917]

“Future generations will look back on TV as the lead in the water pipes that slowly drove the Romans mad.” --- Kurt Vonnegut

[Kryztian]

The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum—even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there’s free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate.
~~~Noam Chomsky

[kfm27917]

"if you poke the Russian bear with a stick, don’t be surprised if he responds."

Nigel Farage

[kfm27917]

If you invite a bear to dance...it's not you who decides when the dance is over.
-Russian proverb

[grapevine]

Loved that kfm. Reminded me of a verse my father used to say:

Algy met a Bear
A Bear met Algy
The Bear was bulgy
The bulge was Algy
:)
According to Google the poem is attributed to Spike Milligan

[Raskolnikov]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5d/51/c1/5d51c168ab46c796be92af3077eae7bc.jpg


"I have often cursed my Creator and my existence.  Plutarch has shown me the path of resignation.  If it is at all possible, I will bid defiance to my fate, though I feel that as long as I live there will be moments when I shall be God's most unhappy creature ... Resignation, what a wretched resource!  Yet it is all that is left to me."

Beethoven, growing deaf in 1801

[Eva2]

Me: Hey God.
God: Hello.....
Me: I'm falling apart. Can you put me back together?
God: I would rather not.
Me: Why?
God: Because you aren't a puzzle.
Me: What about all of the pieces of my life that are falling down onto the ground?
God: Let them stay there for a while. They fell off for a reason. Take some time and decide if you need any of those pieces back.
Me: You don't understand! I'm breaking down!
God: No - you don't understand. You are breaking through. What you are feeling are just growing pains. You are shedding the things and the people in your life that are holding you back. You aren't falling apart. You are falling into place. Relax. Take some deep breaths and allow those things you don't need anymore to fall off of you. Quit holding onto the pieces that don't fit you anymore. Let them fall off. Let them go.
Me: Once I start doing that, what will be left of me?
God: Only the very best pieces of you.
Me: I'm scared of changing.
God: I keep telling you - YOU AREN'T CHANGING!! YOU ARE BECOMING!
Me: Becoming who?
God: Becoming who I created you to be! A person of light and love and charity and hope and courage and joy and mercy and grace and compassion. I made you for more than the shallow pieces you have decided to adorn yourself with that you cling to with such greed and fear. Let those things fall off of you. I love you! Don't change! ... Become! Become! Become who I made you to be. I'm going to keep telling you this until you remember it.
Me: There goes another piece.
God: Yep. Let it be.
Me: So ... I'm not broken?
God: Of course Not! - but you are breaking like the dawn. It's a new day
John Roedel

[Raskolnikov]

“The promise of God is that you are His son. Her offspring. Its likeness. His equal.”

Ah…here is where you get hung up. You can accept “His son,” “offspring,” “likeness,” but you recoil at being called “His equal.” It is too much to accept. Too much bigness, too much wonderment - too much responsibility. For if you are God’s equal, that means nothing is being done to you - and all things are created by you. There can be no more victims and no more villains - only outcomes of your thought about a thing.

I tell you this: all you see in your world is the outcome of your idea about it.
Do you want your life to truly “take off”? Then change your idea about it. About you. Think, speak, and act as the God You Are.

Of course this will separate you from many - most - of your fellow men. They will call you crazy. They will say you blaspheme. They will eventually have enough of you, and they will attempt to crucify you.

They will do this not because they think you are living in a world of your own illusions (most men are gracious enough to allow you your private entertainments), but because, sooner or later, others will become attracted to your truth - for the promises it holds for them.

Here is where your fellow men will interfere - for here is where you will begin to threaten them. For your simple truth, simply lived, will offer more beauty, more comfort, more peace, more joy, and more love of self and others than anything your earthly fellow could contrive.

And that truth, adopted, would mean the end of their ways. It would mean the end of hatred and fear and bigotry and war. The end of their condemning and killing that has gone on in My name. The end of might-is-right. The end of purchase-through-power. The end of loyalty and homage through fear. The end of the world as they know it - and as you have created it thus far.

So be ready, kind soul. For you will be vilified and spat upon, called names, and deserted, and finally they will accuse you, try you, and condemn you - all in their own ways - from the moment you accept and adopt your holy cause - the realization of Self.

“Why, then, do it?”

Because you are no longer concerned with the acceptance or approval of the world. You are no longer satisfied with what that has brought you. You are no longer pleased with what it has given others. You want the pain to stop, the suffering to stop, the illusion to end. You have had enough of this world as it presently is. You seek a newer world.

Seek it no longer. Now, call it forth.


Conversations with God, Neale Donald Walsch

[Vicus]

Best 1 liner from Plato !

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi_1OGJ9RncPjmN159uRuappAJ6_1G9Dvf3_MRRIJudnGx6bLsprCs6ffXq91wHC7uce1wnKsQKMXlfI0Bw7JmNBKIEIccX zOeoS62n0OmYjWH1Y_UtoeVTIX6Mg02JAFRr_grw7pQlVHQImM260oqX13WyAMU2keIs7XD00DSaHJ8DZtYZgDEGBQ/w528-h558/schizoid-MAY00004.jpg

[Kryztian]

https://i.imgur.com/djdagXR.jpeg

[Kryztian]

https://i.imgur.com/ifxsxVt.jpeg

[Vicus]

Fall in love!... :heart2:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOU0JhkHY3w

[Raskolnikov]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyC1Z62WwAMeUYk.jpg

[Raskolnikov]

Best 1 liner from Plato !

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi_1OGJ9RncPjmN159uRuappAJ6_1G9Dvf3_MRRIJudnGx6bLsprCs6ffXq91wHC7uce1wnKsQKMXlfI0Bw7JmNBKIEIccX zOeoS62n0OmYjWH1Y_UtoeVTIX6Mg02JAFRr_grw7pQlVHQImM260oqX13WyAMU2keIs7XD00DSaHJ8DZtYZgDEGBQ/w528-h558/schizoid-MAY00004.jpg

That's hilarious Vicus. Here's a bit more on Plato's pride from Lives of Eminent Philosophers by Diogenes Laertius...

Anthisthenes used to taunt Plato with being conceited. At all events when in a procession he spied a spirited charger he said, turning to Plato, "It seems to me that you would have made just such a proud, showy steed." And one day he visited Plato, who was ill, and seeing the basin into which Plato had vomited, remarked, "The bile I see, but not the pride."

He was ridiculed by the Comic poets-

Theopompus in his Hedychares says: "There is not anything that is truly one, even the number two is scarcely one, according to Plato."

Alexis in the Meropis: "You have come in the nick of time. For I am at my wits’ end and walking up and down, like Plato, and yet have discovered no wise plan but only tired my legs."

And in the Ancylion: "You don’t know what you are talking about; run about with Plato, and you’ll know all about soap and onions."

Amphis, too, in the Amphicrates says: "And as for the good, whatever that be, that you are likely to get on her account, I know no more about it, master, than I do of the good of Plato."

And in the Dexidemides: "O Plato, all you know is how to frown with eyebrows lifted high like any snail."

Aristotle seceded from the Academy while Plato was still alive. Hence the remark attributed to the latter: "Aristotle spurns me, as colts kick out at the mother who bore them."

They say that, on hearing Plato read the Lysis, Socrates exclaimed, "By Heracles, what a number of lies this young man is telling about me!"

Diogenes was eating dried figs when he encountered Plato and offered him a share of them. When Plato took them and ate them, he said, "I said you might share them, not that you might eat them all up."
And one day when Plato had invited to his house friends coming from Dionysius, Diogenes trampled upon his carpets and said, "I trample upon Plato’s vainglory." Plato’s reply was, "How much pride you expose to view, Diogenes, by seeming not to be proud." Others tell us that what Diogenes said was, "I trample upon the pride of Plato," who retorted, "Yes, Diogenes, with pride of another sort." Sotion, however, in his fourth book makes the Cynic address this remark to Plato himself. Diogenes once asked him for wine, and after that also for some dried figs; and Plato sent him a whole jar full. Then the other said, "If some one asks you how many two and two are, will you answer, Twenty? So, it seems, you neither give as you are asked nor answer as you are questioned." Thus he scoffed at him as one who talked without end.

[Vicus]

Hilarious ,yes

But the old men comments are sad for me...Plato this and that,yada,yada,yeah...

They are typical sign of envy/jealousy for a young stud who dares to have a brain too! how dare you!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato%27s_theory_of_soul#In_the_Republic

Same prejudices about gorgeous woman (no brain)

I'm a mature man and when I witness young men in that perspective i can only smug because is their time to do so,they should enjoy themself, on the contrary a young man acting/feeling like an older is just sad...

There is a time for everything and is OK,other way is sad or fake.

Raskolnikof:
sorry , I cant see your first post, I know it have something to do with my browser ,but I'm too lazy now to check out...

[Raskolnikov]

Yes Vicus, I thought the same thing while I posted that. I laughed thinking, "f'ing philosophers back then were a bunch of cackling hens and chatty Cathys, cutting each other down for the clothes they wore or the company they kept," not much has changed eh? I do find Socrates' comment funny considering he's Plato's most famous subject...

[kfm27917]

A will finds a way.

Orison Swett Marde

[Raskolnikov]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/93/8d/3d/938d3d530c1e07bb5d272232da6f5018.jpg










https://i.pinimg.com/236x/c7/74/c1/c774c196148d8bf1b153a6626e054b56--lessons-in-life-benny-hill.jpg

[Kryztian]

“When Small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set.”

― Lin Yutang

[Johnnycomelately]

Came across something today that stood out, reading comments on a post by YT chan Kyle Rittenhouse, who was aquitted of shooting attacking rioters in the “mostly peaceful riot” days.

Quote in mind is emphasized in + in the last paragraph of my response to Matt (yeah me, a “liminal” one, gets me trying new things). I wonder what you folks make of it.

@mattds846
2 hours ago

Kyle align your views with donut operator & Brandon hererra, thats the goat train you wanna catch mate.


Reply


@johnnyliminal8032
0 seconds ago

I like most of Herrerra’s vids, but not the one where he hosted Kyle. BH spoke the f-word often, and Kyle seemed pressured in his attempt to keep up. Seemed like a frat/manhood initiation hazing. BH plays with fire all the time, figuratively too.

Have seen Donut Operator a few times, seems OK, dunno.

[b]As much as trustworthy confidents are always the better choice, more important is to learn from past poor choices. Mistakes are gifts from Heaven, the first time or few. “Blows of fate” are like the smoke alarms going off, after you ignored the oven alarm for too long lol.

[Raskolnikov]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/64/88/31/648831101133b07828c1310d887726ea.jpg



https://inspirationfeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Nikola-Tesla-Quotes-36-800x800.jpg




https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/1729757-Nikola-Tesla-Quote-I-am-trying-to-awake-the-energy-contained-in.jpg

[Raskolnikov]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/5c/dc/83/5cdc831847f5f4351fe13dd0ed7c7735--nikola-tesla-anti-social.jpg

[Raskolnikov]

https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/1804254-Swami-Vivekananda-Quote-Christ-Buddha-and-Krishna-are-but-waves-in.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

In peace, sons bury their fathers. In war, fathers bury their sons.

Herodotus (484—425 BC)

[HopSan]

In peace, sons bury their fathers. In war, fathers bury their sons.

Herodotus (484—425 BC)


I have seen this from near. Priam is a happy boy compared to some other fathers.

saRRU9lRQlE

[Bill Ryan]

In peace, sons bury their fathers. In war, fathers bury their sons.
Herodotus (484—425 BC)


I have seen this from near. Priam is a happy boy compared to some other fathers.

saRRU9lRQlEThank you... a most wonderful, moving scene, supremely acted by Peter O'Toole as King Priam in the 2004 movie Troy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_(film)). Shakespeare would have been proud.

Achilles, exceptionally well played by Brad Pitt, had just killed Priam's son Hector in battle. Priam begs for his body to be returned to him so that he can be properly honored. Achilles' closing words in the scene are: "You're a far better King than the one leading this army."

The film, which I'd recommend to anyone studying modern geopolitical conflict, is all about principle, respect, courage, and honor. There are many leaders today who might do well to learn from it. :flower:

:focus:

[Raskolnikov]

Thanks guys. Guess I've got a movie to watch...


https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-it-s-characteristic-of-democracy-that-majority-rule-is-understood-as-being-effective-joseph-campbell-95-37-58.jpg

[grapevine]

"Today we have technology to hack human beings on a massive scale"
- Yuval Noah Harari

See more . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1kLHEEVJ00&t=26s&ab_channel=GMSUNIVERSAL2 video

Read more . . ./
https://simonmercieca.com/2022/11/07/yuval-noah-harari-humans-are-now-hackable-animals-confirming-that-we-are-living-in-the-era-of-transhumanism/

[Bill Ryan]

"Today we have technology to hack human beings on a massive scale"
- Yuval Noah Harari

The human mind has no firewall.
Dr. Robert Duncan, ex-CIA mind control researcher

[kfm27917]

https://www.theburningplatform.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/carlin1.jpg

[kfm27917]

https://www.theburningplatform.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/resist2.jpg

[Kryztian]

Pueblo idiota es seguridad del tirano.




(An idiotic people means security for the tyrant. )

--- Spanish Proverb

[Raskolnikov]

"The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehood and errors."

Thomas Jefferson

[Raskolnikov]

https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/3777369-Aristotle-Quote-He-who-is-unable-to-live-in-society-or-who-has-no.jpg




https://www.wonderfulquote.com/img/q/27/25827A-remember-never-to-say-that-you-are-alone-nay-god-epictetus.png

[grapevine]

"The story of the human race is War. Except for
brief and precarious interludes, there has never
been peace in the world’ and before history began,
murderous strife was universal and unending”
– Winston Churchill

(and epigraph in Annie Jacobsen's book, Nuclear War, a Scenario)

[Raskolnikov]

https://www.azquotes.com/vangogh-image-quotes/18/92/Quotation-Groucho-Marx-Politics-is-the-art-of-looking-for-trouble-finding-it-18-92-77.jpg

[kfm27917]

Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men.

- Martin Luther King, Jr.

[Raskolnikov]

Know nothing about this man but agree wholeheartedly with the statement.


https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/450472749_1072973587532456_1684106240061424628_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=d6Yg74xNuUcQ7kNvgGcwiA6&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=00_AYAVUFj71X3IXQCSVnVxlCSHLCqCw7QQAq5r8lAVLN4jKQ&oe=669628DE

[ErtheVessel]

"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today."

-Theodore Roosevelt
U.S. President from September 1901 to March 1909

[Bill Ryan]

Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.
First observed (correctly! :)) by Sophocles (497—405 BC), and later restated in its exact well-known form by William Anderson Scott in 1854.

[norman]

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian initiation."

David Spangler, United Nations Director of Planetary Initiative.

https://celebratingoneincrediblefamily.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/David-Spangler-portrait.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government.

Tacitus (56—120 AD)

[Bill Ryan]

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
William Ernest Henley, from his poem Invictus (1875). 'Invictus' is Latin for unconquerable, or undefeated.

[Raskolnikov]

The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government.

Tacitus (56—120 AD)



Speaks volumes today. Reminds me of the old adage, "Laws were made to be broken," so they can turn everyone into a criminal and fill their private prisons. Control, control, control. Today's lawmakers and the army of lawyers, (dis)loyal to the BAR, they employ:


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/de/6c/87/de6c8719ab86d468376ed97b41263e54.jpg

[kfm27917]

Winston Churchill once famously said that “nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trumps-churchillian-moment-how-near-miss-assassination-hit-mark-press-pundits

[Bill Ryan]

In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.

Franklin D. Roosevelt

[Raskolnikov]

In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.

Franklin D. Roosevelt

Case in point...


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRfNdDwXMAApRNe?format=png&name=small

[Kryztian]

https://i.imgur.com/7n99Qfe.jpeg

[grapevine]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAMh6PZaIAE26RF?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Vicus]

The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. No, the true measure of a man is this: how quickly can he respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give.

- Philip K. Dick

[Raskolnikov]

https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/quote-nietzsche-politician-divide-mankind-two-classes-tools-and-enemies.jpg?w=580&ssl=1

[Eva2]

"The reason is that the waking consciousness lives under the influence of Ahriman. Ahriman has great power over our waking consciousness. It is quite different in the case of the sleep consciousness."
- Rudolf Steiner; Dornach, November 22, 1914 (GA 158)

[Raskolnikov]

https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/quote-schopenhauer-herd-hates-one-thinks-differently.jpg?w=516&ssl=1



https://www.azquotes.com/vangogh-image-quotes/45/88/Quotation-Nikola-Tesla-I-don-t-care-that-they-stole-my-idea-I-45-88-50.jpg

[Ernie Nemeth]

You can tuna piano, but you can't tuna fish. REO Speedwagon

[Raskolnikov]

https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/quote-richard-pryor-2-things-history-hatred-humor-lessen.jpg?resize=564%2C383&ssl=1

[happyuk]

Remember, it isn’t only the good boys who help win the wars. It is the sneaks and stinkers as well.

Winston Churchill

(From Giles Milton's 'Churchill’s Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare (https://www.gilesmilton.com/historybooks/churchillsministry)', a GREAT read!)

[Raskolnikov]

"Poetry is vocal painting, as painting is silent poetry."
Simonides

"Poetry is nearer to vital truth than history."
Plato

[Paul D.]

"We are living in a culture entirely
hypnotized by the illusion of time, in
which the so-called present moment is
felt as nothing but an infinitesimal
hairline between a causative past and
an absorbingly important future. We
have no present. Our consciousness is
almost completely preoccupied with
memory and expectation. We do not
realize that there never was, is, nor will
be any other experience than present
experience. We are therefore out of
touch with reality."
~ ALAN WATTS

[Bill Ryan]

As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see the River Tiber foaming with much blood.

Enoch Powell, 20 April 1968. Powell was a classical scholar, and was quoting directly from a section of Virgil's Aeneid, published in 19 BC.

[Bill Ryan]

When you strike at a king, you must kill him.
Ralph Waldo Emerson.
This was paraphrased and popularized in the TV series The Wire, in a quote by the character Omar Little:Come at the king, you best not miss.

[happyuk]

The foundation of all mental illness is the unwillingness to experience legitimate suffering.

Carl Jung

(+ some filler text to counter the "Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters" message I am getting :) )

[Vicus]

https://rense.com/1.mpicons/slider20200710/fz.jpg

[Raskolnikov]

https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/quote-frankl-forces-beyond-control-take-away-everything-except-how-to-respond.jpg?w=529&ssl=1

[Raskolnikov]

https://images3.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED610/66afb8c16a370.webp

[kfm27917]

"You have power over your mind--not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength."

Marcus Aurelius

from https://www.sott.net/article/493720-The-Upside-of-Adversity

[Kryztian]

https://i.imgur.com/C9STTiw.jpeg

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

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[Raskolnikov]

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[Raskolnikov]

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[Raskolnikov]

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[Ewan]

Being Irish he had an abiding sense of tragedy,

which sustained him through temporary periods of joy.


WB Yeats.

[Vicus]

There is no coming to consciousness without pain.

People will do anything, no matter what how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own soul.

One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious.

Carl Gustav Jung

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"Let us cross over the river, and rest under the shade of the trees."
~ The last words of Stonewall Jackson on his deathbed, 1863

[grapevine]

https://www.azquotes.com/image-quotes/Quotation-Philip-K-Dick-Reality-is-that-which-when-you-stop-believing-in-it-7-78-78.jpg

[happyuk]

L.M. Singhvi ... relating the anecdote of an Eastern European journalist who said:


... our newspapers, like those of the rest of the world, contain truths, half–truths, and lies. The truths are found on the sports pages, the half–truths are found in the weather forecasts, and the lies are found in everything else.

(La Jornada Semanal, May 18, 1997, p. 7. La Jornada Semanal is a supplement inserted in the Mexican newspaper La Jornada. The passage quoted has, of course, been translated from Spanish.)

[Raskolnikov]

"To a philosopher all news, as it is called, is gossip, and they who edit and read it are old women over their tea."

Thoreau

[Eva2]

Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind."
Argue with him.
Eric Orwell aka George Blair
Politics and the English Language. 1946

[Kryztian]

"Reality is invented for you by people who design it like a choreography; there's definitely an office somewhere in Washington, with people you've never heard of, that designs reality. It's not just about what will be the next event to come up but rather what will be the interpretation of a given international event And this must be distributed everywhere through the media, without anyone asking questions about it."



~~~Frank Zappa

[Ewan]

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose...

from 'Convoy' by C. W. McCall, (written 1975).

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Dancing Is a Perpendicular Expression of a Horizontal Desire

------- George Bernard Shaw

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"Do not indulge in dreams of having what you have not, but reckon up the chief of the blessings you do possess, and then thankfully remember how you would crave for them if they were not yours."
~ Marcus Aurelius

[Raskolnikov]

https://img.libquotes.com/pic-quotes/v2/oscar-wilde-quote-lbe5q5z.jpg

[Eva2]

The time will come, and it may not be far off, that people will say: It is pathological for people to even think in terms of spirit and soul. ‘Sound’ people will speak of nothing but the body. It will be considered a sign of illness for anyone to arrive at the idea of any such thing as a spirit or a soul. People who think like that will be considered to be sick and — you can be quite sure of it — a medicine will be found for this. At Constantinople, the spirit was made non-existent. The soul will be made non-existent with the aid of a drug. Taking a ‘sound point of view’, people will invent a vaccine to influence the organism as early as possible, preferably as soon as it is born, so that this human body never even gets the idea that there is a soul and a spirit.
The two philosophies of life will be in complete opposition. One movement will need to reflect how concepts and ideas may be developed to meet the reality of soul and spirit. The others, the heirs of modern materialism, will look for the vaccine to make the body ‘healthy’, that is, makes its constitution such that this body no longer talks of such rubbish as soul and spirit, but takes a ‘sound’ view of the forces which live in engines and in chemistry and let planets and suns arise from nebulae in the cosmos. Materialistic physicians will be asked to drive the souls out of humanity.
Source: Rudolf Steiner – GA 177 – Fall of the Spirits of Darkness

[Raskolnikov]

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[grapevine]

https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_square_limited_720/images.spreaker.com/original/dd7cea3b304a639f5320f6543393e147.jpg

- Big Pharma -

[Raskolnikov]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/75/36/c9/7536c9b2812a6f28b42f61114208b64b--simple-things-the-simple.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time, they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

Frédéric Bastiat (1801—1850)

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"The wise have always said the same things, and fools, who are the majority have always done just the opposite."
~ Arthur Schopenhauer

[Raskolnikov]

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[Raskolnikov]

"The sea had roared like this long before there was any Yalta or Oreanda, it was roaring now, and it would go on roaring, just as indifferently and hollowly, when we had passed away. And it may be that in this continuity, this utter indifference to life and death, lies the secret of our ultimate salvation, of the stream of life on our planet, and of its never-ceasing movement towards perfection.
Side by side with a young woman, who looked so exquisite in the early light, soothed and enchanted by the sight of all this magical beauty — sea, mountains, clouds and the vast expanse of the sky — Gurov told himself that, when you came to think of it, everything in the world is beautiful really, everything but our own thoughts and actions, when we lose sight of the higher aims of life, and of our dignity as human beings."

Chekhov - The Lady with the Dog

[HopSan]

This quote was in my mind for many years, like a small bell, finally waking me up:

And what is good, Phaedrus, And what is not good —
Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?

-- Robert M. Pirsig

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"Wealth consists not in having great possessions, but in having few wants."
~ Epictetus

[Raskolnikov]

https://images7.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED629/66c708b74f164.webp

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away."
~ Elvis Presley

[Vicus]

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[Lunesoleil]

Life is like a bicycle, you have to move forward so as not to lose your balance." "Life is 10% what you do with it and 90% how you take it.

[Tintin]

“The aims of the encyclopedia seem harmless enough to us. But authoritarian governments don’t like dictionaries. They live by lies and bamboozling abstractions, and can’t afford to have words accurately defined.” - attributed to Denis Diderot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Diderot) (18th century)

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon behind them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
While horse and hero fell.
They that had fought so well
Came thro' the jaws of Death,
Back from the mouth of hell,
All that was left of them,
Left of six hundred."

The Charge of the Light Brigade

[Raskolnikov]

Life is like a bicycle, you have to move forward so as not to lose your balance." "Life is 10% what you do with it and 90% how you take it.

Can we get a source? Though I'm thinkin' it was you...


"With the exception of two or three of our older writers, all contemporary writing strikes me as being not so much literature as some sort of home industry existing for no other reason than that it is being encouraged, even though its products can hardly be called remarkable, and any sincere praise of them must be qualified by a “but”; and this holds true for all those literary novelties I have read in the last ten or fifteen years: not one is remarkable, not one exempt from a “but.” Clever, edifying, but no talent; or talented, edifying, but not clever; or, finally, talented, clever, but not edifying."

Chekhov

[Bill Ryan]

When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

Maya Angelou

[Eva2]

"The most terrible loneliness is not the kind that comes from being alone, but the kind that comes from being misunderstood. It is the loneliness of standing in a crowded room, surrounded by people who do not see you, who do not hear you, who do not know the true essence of who you are. And in that loneliness, you feel as though you are fading, disappearing into the background, until you are nothing more than a ghost, a shadow of your former self."
— George Orwell, 1984

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
~ Albert Einstein

[Raskolnikov]

"Let us not seek the Republican answer or the Democratic answer, but the right answer. Let us not seek to fix the blame for the past. Let us accept our own responsiblity for the future."

John F. Kennedy


(If you research this quote, many deceptively only use, "Let us not seek the Republican answer." Lies of omission.)

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

[Bill Ryan]

The nation which indulges toward another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave.

George Washington, in his Farewell Address (19 September 1796)

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"Forgive me my nonsense, as I also forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense."
~ Robert Frost

[Vicus]

For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the very definition of slavery.

- Jonathan Swift

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing."
~ Emo Philips

[leavesoftrees]

“The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity.” Dorothy Parker

[Kryztian]

https://i.imgur.com/rUoaJvP.jpeg

[Raskolnikov]

"One of the most fascinating aspects of politician-watching is trying to determine to what extent any politician believes what he says."

Gore Vidal

[ErtheVessel]

“The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent.”

-- J. Edgar Hoover