The Corey Goode affair: various updates from David Wilcock

[PathWalker]

Latest update form David Wilcock.

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1181-mars-tour

Covering revelation from Corey Good.
Reporting about Corey Good's latest epic here (http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/joint-ssp-sphere-alliance-icc-leadership-conference-tour-of-mars-colony-on-6-20.html).
Exposing secret space programs and its funding.


Do you think maybe, just maybe the military-industrial complex would have gone out into space, taken a look around and built some colonies since then?
Over a hundred different off-planet colonies, each with at least tens of thousands of staff -- if not hundreds of thousands -- now exist throughout our solar system.

All of these facilities, and the technology that goes along with them, will be handed over to humanity on earth -- far sooner than we think.

This is only fair, in the grander scheme of things.
Our collective financial and industrial base -- the value we built as a human race -- provided the seed-money investment to build this vast infrastructure.

Investors are entitled to a return -- at least within a fair and equitable system.
PathWalker comment: "fair and equitable system", or justice is a social perspective that change with geography culture and time.

Once you understand "vertical integration," you realize that the same cabal owns Big Industry, Big Agriculture, Big Finance, Big Media and Big Government.

This is not a "conspiracy theory." The proof is absolutely irrefutable -- and is so widely available that everyone is talking about it now.
A wide variety of fraudulent practices have siphoned off our wealth and used it as investment capital -- to develop industrial colonies out in space.

The business that was built by the military-industrial complex has boomed to epic proportions.

Not one bit of its dividends have been shared with humanity on earth.
Thankfully, it now appears the walls of secrecy are tumbling down, and we will soon be able to claim our cosmic inheritance.

All of us will be able to live like millionaires -- with technology beyond our wildest dreams -- once the truth is revealed.
They demonstrated quite a show of force, arriving in 100-plus spheres ranging in size from the Moon to Jupiter.

The "Sphere Alliance" contacted a breakaway faction of the Secret Space Program known as Solar Warden.

Together, they are now pushing to peacefully, gradually and effectively relinquish the lies and secrecy.

The Cabal would never have handed over this technology and revealed any of these secrets unless they were forced to -- by a bigger kid on the playground.
WE DID NOT KNOW THE FULL SCOPE UNTIL THIS MORNING

Though Earth humans are far from the most spiritually advanced race out there, we have become excellent builders of hyper-exotic technology.

The hard-earned cash from our blood, sweat and tears has directly helped finance an off-planet industrial operation that is staggering in scope.

The true size of this industrial operation was not available to anyone in the public domain until Corey Goode published his latest update this morning.

As impossible as this may sound, the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate, or ICC, just revealed they are in intense, ongoing trade relations with.....

Nearly nine hundred different civilizations.

And there are many, many more who they are in contact with on a less-frequent basis.
The hyper-evolved beings within the Sphere Alliance are here to peacefully restore order to our solar system, and usher us into the promised Golden Age.

They do not want to show up in blazing chariots in the sky and rescue us. We have to do this ourselves. And they are helping us create this new reality.
Countless dreams have indicated that this will indeed be happening. And it won't be long before this is a reality that all of us will have access to.

[Camilo]

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1181-mars-tour?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DavidWilcockBlog+%28David+Wilcock+Newsletter%29

Gripping New Adventure as Space Program Insider Tours Mars Colony

A REMARKABLE WINDOW INTO AN ALTERNATE REALITY

Some people wonder if we are "alone in the universe."

Others are open-minded about paranormal phenomena, believe that ETs do exist and are visiting us, and wonder where "they" come from.

You may take it for granted that the Roswell crash did occur, that the US government reverse-engineered the technology and developed space travel.

Roswell was seventy years ago.

Do you think maybe, just maybe the military-industrial complex would have gone out into space, taken a look around and built some colonies since then?

IF THE "GOVERNMENT" BUILT OFF-PLANET COLONIES, WHAT MIGHT THEY DO IN THESE INACCESSIBLE LOCATIONS?

What if these colonies built even more of the reverse-engineered "weird stuff" -- all completely off-planet?

Would the security of an off-planet location ensure that these exotic gadgets could never appear on Earth, no matter how valiant anyone's effort might be?

Might there be millions of people already working out in space in these colonies -- doing extremely advanced high-tech jobs?

And if so, could they have been lied to about what happened on Earth since they left -- after some 60 million took off in the "Brain Drain" of the 50s and 60s?

Could brilliantly complex lies have been designed to make them never want to return to their homeland -- for generations now?

Might they have been told that they never could return?

Could a single, innocent word -- 'Texas' -- ultimately be the "shot heard round the solar system," triggering a revolutionary awakening within the colonies?


IT WILL COME AS A GREAT SHOCK

The true scope of what there is to know about our development of space will come as a great shock to the vast majority of everyone here.

Over a hundred different off-planet colonies, each with at least tens of thousands of staff -- if not hundreds of thousands -- now exist throughout our solar system.

All of these facilities, and the technology that goes along with them, will be handed over to humanity on earth -- far sooner than we think.

This is only fair, in the grander scheme of things.


WE PAID FOR IT

Our collective financial and industrial base -- the value we built as a human race -- provided the seed-money investment to build this vast infrastructure.

Investors are entitled to a return -- at least within a fair and equitable system.

Yet, we are still driving hundred-year-old gasoline-burning technology on a crumbling infrastructure of paved gravel roads -- choking out nature wherever they roam.

"Electric Vehicle Charging Stations" can still be seen scattered throughout Southern California. I just passed one of them yesterday while walking in to LAX airport.

They are a pathetic reminder of another positive, planet-healing initiative that was crushed by Big Industry.

Once you understand "vertical integration," you realize that the same cabal owns Big Industry, Big Agriculture, Big Finance, Big Media and Big Government.

This is not a "conspiracy theory." The proof is absolutely irrefutable -- and is so widely available that everyone is talking about it now.

EVEN MAINSTREAM MEDIA LIKE "THE INDEPENDENT" IS FIGURING IT OUT

Last week, The Independent published an article that reluctantly admitted how many "conspiracy theories" are already becoming irrefutable facts.

It should be very clear that if this much has already come to light, it is still only the tip of the iceberg:
6/15: Perhaps the Conspiracy Theorists Have Been Right All Along
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11671617/Perhaps-the-worlds-conspiracy-theorists-have-been-right-all-along.html

Conspiracy theories used to be so easy.

You’d have your mate who, after a few beers, would tell you that the moon landings were faked or that the Illuminati controlled everything or that the US government was holding alien autopsies in Area 51.

And you’d be able to dismiss this because it was all rubbish.

Look, you’d say, we have moon rock samples and pictures and we left laser reflectors on the surface and... basically you still don’t believe me but that’s because you’re mad and no proof on earth (or the moon) would satisfy you.

It’s true that there was always the big one which wasn’t quite so easily dismissed.

This was the Kennedy assassination -- but here you could be fairly sure that the whole thing was a terrible, impenetrable murky morass.

You knew that some things never would be known (or would be released, partially redacted by the CIA, 200 years in the future).

And you knew that whatever the truth was, it was probably a bit dull compared to your mate’s flights of fantasy involving the KGB, the Mafia and the military-industrial complex.

Besides, it all made for a lot of very entertaining films and books.

This nice, cozy state of affairs lasted until the early 2000s. But then something changed.

These days conspiracy theories don’t look so crazy and conspiracy theorists don’t look like crackpots.

In fact, today’s conspiracy theory is tomorrow’s news headlines.

It’s tempting, I suppose, to say we live in a golden age of conspiracy theories, although it’s only really golden for the architects of the conspiracies.

From the Iraq war to Fifa to the banking crisis, the truth is not only out there, but it’s more outlandish than anything we could have made up.

Of course, our real-life conspiracies aren’t much like The X-Files – they’re disappointingly short on aliens and the supernatural. [DW: So far.]

Rather, they’re more like John Le Carre books. Shady dealings by powerful people who want nothing more than to line their profits at the expense of others.

The abuse of power. Crazy ideologues who try and create their own facts for fun and profit.

Corporations supplanting governments via regulatory capture.

THE DOLLAR HAS DECREASED IN VALUE BY 96 PERCENT

Since the creation of the Federal Reserve System in 1913, just over 100 years ago now, the value of the dollar has decreased by 96 percent.

The Federal Reserve is a private corporation of multi-billionaires that the United States government out-sourced the issuance of its currency to in 1913.

If you have done your homework, you know these billionaires are part of a multi-generational organized crime syndicate that effectively seized power over much of the world.

People are conditioned to laugh at labels like "The Illuminati" -- but the underlying fact that "secret earth governments" are running things cannot be denied.

All over the world right now, regardless of which country you live in, you are hearing "There is no money left. All the money is gone."

Everyone is hurting -- badly.

It is amazing that the controlled media can still get away with calling this Greater Depression a "recovery." Or the equally silly "Great Recession."

WHERE DID ALL THAT VALUE GO?

Money is just an indication of value. It moves from one place to another. The value of money is not destroyed once it has been moved.

If you have ten dollars in your savings account and you transfer it into your checking, you still have ten dollars.

Yes, you could say that your savings account is now bankrupt -- but you still have ten dollars.

If you then spend it on something, someone else now has your ten dollars -- but it's still there.

Now imagine this on a much grander scale.

All of the money earned by our parents, grandparents and great-grandparents -- all the value they generated -- had to go somewhere.

And wherever our money went, it's still there.

OUR MONEY WAS INVESTED VERY WISELY

If you give someone ten thousand dollars, and they go and invest it and turn it into a million dollars, you deserve some share of the profits.

That's why we invest. Providing "seed money" comes at a risk, but if the investment pays off, fair business practices stipulate that the dividends must be shared.

This is the whole basis of why we put our money in stocks, bonds, commodities and other products.

A wide variety of fraudulent practices have siphoned off our wealth and used it as investment capital -- to develop industrial colonies out in space.

The business that was built by the military-industrial complex has boomed to epic proportions.

Not one bit of its dividends have been shared with humanity on earth.

THE ANCIENT BUILDER RACE

Furthermore, an "Ancient Builder Race" left extensive, highly-advanced ruins on Earth and all throughout our solar system.

Those advanced artifacts, abandoned cities and re-occupied ancient facilities are the rightful property of those now living here on Earth.

Thankfully, it now appears the walls of secrecy are tumbling down, and we will soon be able to claim our cosmic inheritance.

All of us will be able to live like millionaires -- with technology beyond our wildest dreams -- once the truth is revealed.

WHY WOULD THE "POWERS THAT WERE" EVER HAND OVER THEIR SECRET TECHNOLOGY?

A vastly superior race of benevolent ETs have made themselves formally known to the Secret Space Program since 2012.

They demonstrated quite a show of force, arriving in 100-plus spheres ranging in size from the Moon to Jupiter.

The "Sphere Alliance" contacted a breakaway faction of the Secret Space Program known as Solar Warden.

Together, they are now pushing to peacefully, gradually and effectively relinquish the lies and secrecy.

The Cabal would never have handed over this technology and revealed any of these secrets unless they were forced to -- by a bigger kid on the playground.

WE DID NOT KNOW THE FULL SCOPE UNTIL THIS MORNING

Though Earth humans are far from the most spiritually advanced race out there, we have become excellent builders of hyper-exotic technology.

The hard-earned cash from our blood, sweat and tears has directly helped finance an off-planet industrial operation that is staggering in scope.

The true size of this industrial operation was not available to anyone in the public domain until Corey Goode published his latest update this morning.

As impossible as this may sound, the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate, or ICC, just revealed they are in intense, ongoing trade relations with.....

Nearly nine hundred different civilizations.

And there are many, many more who they are in contact with on a less-frequent basis.

GO READ IT FOR YOURSELF

The Secret Space Program insider Corey Goode sent me a preliminary copy of what you are about to read, by email, last night. It wasn't finished yet.

He was on one side of the kitchen table and I was on the other. I read it, gave a few suggestions and went to sleep.

While I was peacefully sacked out in my room, sleeping until 10AM, he went ahead and finished the whole thing.

In my view this is definitely the best, most engaging thing he has ever written.

And, as impossible as it may sound, it is all based on what really happened to him three nights ago.

RESTORING ORDER AND EXPOSING THE TRUTH

The hyper-evolved beings within the Sphere Alliance are here to peacefully restore order to our solar system, and usher us into the promised Golden Age.

They do not want to show up in blazing chariots in the sky and rescue us. We have to do this ourselves. And they are helping us create this new reality.

Corey and his commanding officer Gonzales just performed the Alliance equivalent of a UN weapons inspection on an ICC colony from Mars.

The goal was to gauge whether the people there were living in slavery-type conditions -- and to gain critical intelligence about a facility revealed by a recent new defector.

The adventure he went through -- just prior to flying out for this trip -- is truly worthy of a filmic treatment in and of itself.

Corey has felt like these journeys are often the equivalent of trips into hell. I have done my part to try to help him feel better about what he is doing.

I have told him how lucky he is to be brought into this world. If I ever get the chance to go myself, it will be the fulfillment of a lifetime of unceasing effort.

Countless dreams have indicated that this will indeed be happening. And it won't be long before this is a reality that all of us will have access to.

FROM A PERSONAL LEVEL...

We are finally here at Gaiam Studios to "do it right" -- on a professional level -- capturing and releasing this vast, epic narrative in a series of episodes.

This will be in addition to whatever I do with our original footage that we shot in my home back in April -- and which I am in the final stages of learning enough to be able to self-produce.

We are discussing how to make this content as readily accessible to everyone as possible. It will probably be featured in a show we will call Disclosure: Special Edition.

Corey Goode has now met with the CEO, the president, the director, the head of production and several other key staff in the Gaiam production crew.

This is an important point. Corey just went through an entire day of being (excitedly) interrogated by the highest-level staff in the company.

Every time we asked him a question, the answers tumbled out like a waterfall.

No matter how specific and idiosyncratic the question might be, his answers are remarkably detailed.

Best of all, they all thread beautifully with what I have heard from so many others.

CAN'T WRITE ANY MORE AT THE MOMENT

Corey and I were both very impressed with the degree of preparation that Gaiam had going in.

This included a centimeter-thick book of printouts of pictures of different types of ETs -- to see which ones look the most like what he saw, and how we can illustrate them correctly.

Every word of Corey's online testimony -- on his website and Facebook page -- was thoroughly studied, analyzed and outlined, as well as the contents of our six-hour video interview.

Tomorrow we are going to attempt to create an overview that encompasses the main details and compresses it into a half-hour. We had meetings all day on how to accomplish that.

This overview will be just the icebreaker that opens up the doors to a much larger series of discussions -- that could turn into many more episodes.

We are hoping to have a rapid turnaround speed on the release of the overview. The estimates may be overly exuberant, but we are hoping for the best.

Everyone was completely captivated by the story of Corey's meeting at the Mars colony -- and it is well worth your time to read it for yourself.

The more Corey writes, the better he gets. This article has already gone viral like nothing else he has ever written, for good reason -- so check it out!

[URIKORN]

2 more relevant links:


Big Update: ICC Mars Colony Conference Report June 20th, World Shattering Disclosure for Mars Colonists, 'Divergent' Type Conditions | Corey GoodETxSG

Monday, June 22, 2015

http://sitsshow.blogspot.co.il/2015/06/big-update-icc-mars-colony-conference.html

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MISSION TO MARS INVESTIGATES CLAIMS OF SLAVE LABOR AT SECRET CORPORATE BASE

Written by Dr Michael Salla on June 22, 2015.

http://exopolitics.org/mission-to-mars-investigates-claims-of-slave-labor-at-secret-corporate-base/

[Rocky_Shorz]

Leave it to someone from Texas to really mess things up... :pound:

I liked Daves intro to what Goode was sharing, and now the real question, they left a ship, how soon until it arrives on earth?

[URIKORN]

Leave it to someone from Texas to really mess things up... :pound:

I liked Daves intro to what Goode was sharing, and now the real question, they left a ship, how soon until it arrives on earth?


Give me such a Texan every day
If what he tells is true then he is a harbinger of good news to all of us

The ship ?
We'll take it back with the whole instalation.

Though, to something more serious:
Wilcock envisions a coming time when we all be rich.
It is not that I object, but personally I can identify and reject the activation
of the glands of greed.
For me the issue is freedom of spirit, of decency, of sharing, of open learning, and
the material gains are by products

[Rocky_Shorz]

That explains what happened in Texas, the brain drain, they shipped all their top minds to Mars in the 50's...

bushs and Perrys didn't make the cut...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Rich has nothing to do with money...


It is having everything you need...

Just like conspiracies are now the new cool...

Not being chained to the wheel is becoming the new norm for humanity, which is a move towards richness body and soul

[Rocky_Shorz]

My questions for Goode, when you met the slave colony, what race were they?

What food do they eat, meat and veggies? Or mainly starch?

What happened to the family that was joining them?

Do you think the security team that heard him say he was from Texas were eliminated so the slave colony can continue without the knowledge earth is still alive?

[Joe Akulis]

From Goode's post:

"The ICC Representative immediately looked concerned and that look intensified when the “plus sign” icon popped up on the coordinates that were already in the system. It marked a place that was in the southern polar region. The ICC representative stated that this was an old Industrial plant and that there wasn’t a colony there. Gonzales stated that our intelligence was fresh and that indeed there was a moderate sized colony there and that a recent ICC defector had lived there and provided a detailed report.

The ICC representative stated that he would have to contact his superiors to get clearance."


Reminds me of what China used to do when visiting dignitaries like the Clintons would pay a visit. They had the "state sponsored" church, which is what visitors would see, if they attended a mass. This was the façade put up to hide the true, underground church which was persecuted quite heavily. You can learn all about it at the Cardinal Kung foundation website. http://www.cardinalkungfoundation.org/

The point is, it feels like the typical, "offer them a tour, but exercise total control over what they can tour" routine, which is the oldest one in the book.

Glad to see they poked a hole it in with some insider info.


P.S., just cuz I'm posting something about it doesn't mean I buy any of this stuff yet. I'm still reading all this stuff with my "yeah, well, Tolec and the Galactic Federation turned out to be all true" glasses on. :bigsmile:

[KiwiElf]

Shades of "Alternative 3" - I hope with a better ending!

[Aspen]

Perhaps the security team from the base on the Southern Hemisphere of Mars would be mind wiped and not killed for speculating about the team coming from Earth. . . .

[Rocky_Shorz]

2 more relevant links:


Big Update: ICC Mars Colony Conference Report June 20th, World Shattering Disclosure for Mars Colonists, 'Divergent' Type Conditions | Corey GoodETxSG

Monday, June 22, 2015

http://sitsshow.blogspot.co.il/2015/06/big-update-icc-mars-colony-conference.html


MISSION TO MARS INVESTIGATES CLAIMS OF SLAVE LABOR AT SECRET CORPORATE BASE

Written by Dr Michael Salla on June 22, 2015.

http://exopolitics.org/mission-to-mars-investigates-claims-of-slave-labor-at-secret-corporate-base/


Now that China is catching up to the modern world so laborers are no longer at poverty slave wages, the Romney slavemasters would need a cheap source of labor.

Soon China will be walking into Walmarts complaining nothing is made in China, little made in Mars tags on everything...

[Zionbrion]

Anyone else feel like Coreys latest article felt like a short science fiction story?

[Selene]

Perhaps the security team from the base on the Southern Hemisphere of Mars would be mind wiped and not killed for speculating about the team coming from Earth. . . .


I hope so, but I'm not personally optimistic here, sadly. On the other hand, word/rumor of Earth's survival will spread uncontrollably like wildfire; the ICC won't be able to damp it down completely. It may become something of 'legend' there at the colony, a whispered 'you're crazy' theory... But it will persist. The flame of hope may have been sparked here. This will be destabilizing and may cost lives, but…

Personally, I am watching all with interest. It's either A) the greatest work of sci-fi/ psyop ever, or B) based on reality.

At this point, I'm leaning toward answer B, Alec.

My personal standard is that a good psyop requires 90% fact in order to get you to swallow the 10% lie. Works really well, always has.

So my question here is qui bono? [who benefits?] If – in this case – the PTB are willing to concede [90% truth in order to sell a lie] that:

• They operate secret facilities off-planet

• They make ultra-high-tech stuff there

• They deal and trade with 900 other civilizations for same

• This is a viable business

• They employ human labor

• (This is from their own dog and pony show, which obviously had been already presented to many other parties, in order to be ‘ready to go’ for Corey/Gonzales’ surprise visit)

All these concessions are in exchange for suppressing the Big Secret: They operate slave colonies in human trafficking and torture.

Sell/trade mere human “useless eaters” for money and power?

Personally, I wouldn’t be terribly surprised.

It fits my other information.

Cheers,

Selene

[Lancet]

Anyone else feel like Coreys latest article felt like a short science fiction story?

Me too. I used to listen to David. this is is way too off.

Me thinks this going to be a big revenue earner for GAIAM.

[East Sun]

Why am I not in the slightest bit excited about this?

Because I have heard these far out 'claims' too many times before.

That's why!

[URIKORN]

Anyone else feel like Coreys latest article felt like a short science fiction story?


It certainly feels like a chapter in a science fiction book.
But so does the whole human story upon this planet as it starts, piece by piece, being revealed to our minds.
There is, in my opinion, no escape from a period of experiencing a split mind: Is that true or is it just a story ?
In various and many issues.

I have a good feeling about Corey Goode.
I feel he is a man of intellectual integrity and operating from conscience.
This is my simple feeling.
Now, since I do not claim that my feelings are indicators for objective knowledge
I cannot assert, with confidence: he speaks the truth.
But, personally, I go by my feelings. Always has.
So I give him credit, while observing, him and myself, and reading and feeling his
materials and about it. And there is much, and much more is probably yet to come.
And, of course, unfolding reality will be the great judge, providing we shall not miss
it, dismiss it, mis interpret.
Yesterday, for example, I thought about the upcoming reactions of certain religious communities to total disclosure.
Some will most probably close ranks and reject all evidence, interpreting it so that it will fit their dogma.

A note: as a religious person myself, i.e. one who likes to believes that an infinte living One is and always was the center and source of all, the new brave world, in
the positive sense, essentially, vindicates the religious spirit and squashes the
materialistic approach that threatned to copnquer this planet, and still does

[URIKORN]

An interesting item from Corey Goode's material:


Corey's Response about World War 3:

Sphere Being Alliance
These are last desperate acts that will not be permitted to escalate into WWIII.
Its about the West trying to start WWIII as a last ditch effort to prevent a financial collapse and new financial system owned by the East/BRICS from arising.
It will take a huge financial crash for the asleep brain washed people to be agitated and wake up enough to be ready to believe and accept all of the data dumps in full disclosure.
As also stated, "The beings" are NOT going to save us... They are not here to save us from ourselves... They have made this extremely clear in their message that we have the power of saving ourselves via our mass consciousness and we will be our own saviors. If they came down and saved us we would learn nothing and would repeat the same history over and over.
All of this information has been shared before and those who have looked at it in depth should understand by now that we should stop waiting for outside saviors to make the change and that we are responsible for doing it.

Corey on Putin:

Sphere Being Alliance
Russian/Putin know more about what is going on with the SSP Alliance and OFF WORLD AFFAIRS than anyone else.
They will not fall for any manipulations into war.
They also have high technology that can prevent US weapons technology from being a problem.
Have you read my other reports?
China has tech that shuts down our ships and makes them dead in the water, makes missiles/planes drop from the skies with an electronic dampening field and Russia has the same technologies.
There are metal expansion/magnetic technologies that make simple rifles and hand guns unable to fire any rounds...
I think things are more controllable than you know if you haven't read the full reports/disclosures I have released recently.


Taken from:


Visit to ICC Site On Mars, Tsunamic Energies Affecting People, WW3 Will NOT Happen, Galactic Central Sun and the 'Council of 13' | Corey GoodETxSG

Sunday, June 21, 2015

http://sitsshow.blogspot.co.il/2015/06/visit-to-icc-site-on-mars-tsunamic.html


I recall listening to Simon Parkes. If memory serves me right he, also, commented that China and Russia own technology that gives them an edge over the West.


correction on 26/06/2015
A bit late maybe but here is a correction:
I am almost sure that it was not Simon Parkes that spoke about the East
technological advantage in war - it was Mythi in one of last 50 videos or so:

this is the last one:
134 - ANSWERS OF AN ALIEN FROM ANDROMEDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWHKW20YFUA

[Elainie]

His info (Corey) comes from data mining from other people and sources.

[URIKORN]

Hello

I am a new member in Avalon, so I was no part in the period when something bad
happened between Bill and Corey, as I gather.
I have practically no info about this falling apart.

As an outsider in this matter, I find it painful that this (Avalon) community
ostracised Corey.
To be honest, I feel that there is a herd mentality in the matter.

I do think that his material / story deserves a keen and interested ear.
We may be missing here the greatest source of info.

And, if an apology to Corey is being called for, then let it be.
As far as I am concerned, and my intuition, Corey is a man of Peace

Discernment ? certainly, even up to suspicion.
But with a clear heart

Another afterthought.
I gather that Corey is fast evolving spirit. From the chains of a system that owned
him and into a self liberating one. If I am correct then he is in an ongoing process
of inner clearing. The man of 2 years ago is not necessarily the man of now.
Yesterday he may have been more childish. Today, more mature.

[URIKORN]

His info (Corey) comes from data mining from other people and sources.

And your sources for such an assertion ?

[araucaria]

I am a new member in Avalon, so I was no part in the period when something bad
happened between Bill and Corey, as I gather.
I have practically no info about this falling apart.

As an outsider in this matter, I find it painful that this (Avalon) community
ostracised Corey.
To be honest, I feel that there is a herd mentality in the matter.

Hello, and welcome to the forum.
You have no info, and yet you feel 'there is a herd mentality' here. Maybe you should start by finding out a little more before making a judgment.

As one who was around at the time, let me tell you that there was no negative herd response to this former member, just the opposite in fact. But he is a former member whose behaviour towards the forum since his departure has hardly been the work of a man of peace. You might check some of that too to understand why he is no longer welcome here.

[URIKORN]

I am a new member in Avalon, so I was no part in the period when something bad
happened between Bill and Corey, as I gather.
I have practically no info about this falling apart.

As an outsider in this matter, I find it painful that this (Avalon) community
ostracised Corey.
To be honest, I feel that there is a herd mentality in the matter.

Hello, and welcome to the forum.
You have no info, and yet you feel 'there is a herd mentality' here. Maybe you should start by finding out a little more before making a judgment.

As one who was around at the time, let me tell you that there was no negative herd response to this former member, just the opposite in fact. But he is a former member whose behaviour towards the forum since his departure has hardly been the work of a man of peace. You might check some of that too to understand why he is no longer welcome here.

Thank you for the response.
I made no judgement.
I said I have a feeling.
These are two different things.

In principal: any group of people should check itself for signs of group mentality. Any. If it seeks to stay on the Path of truth.
And this is a judgement.

In any case, the really important thing is the reality of his info.
It is, potentially, of the highest value, if true, or mostly true.
I think that none of us is in a position to make a reliable judgement in this matter.
And his info makes sense in lots of ways.
It is, to my mind, the duty of any current seekers of truth in the field of exopolitics
to listen carefully to this man.
And the investigation should be open, disregarding all previous grudges.
He may be fraud.
He may be self deluded.
He may be under control.
He may, also, be a genuine conduit of first class info.
We do not know at this stage.
The matter is too important.

[araucaria]

I am a new member in Avalon, so I was no part in the period when something bad
happened between Bill and Corey, as I gather.
I have practically no info about this falling apart.

As an outsider in this matter, I find it painful that this (Avalon) community
ostracised Corey.
To be honest, I feel that there is a herd mentality in the matter.

Hello, and welcome to the forum.
You have no info, and yet you feel 'there is a herd mentality' here. Maybe you should start by finding out a little more before making a judgment.

As one who was around at the time, let me tell you that there was no negative herd response to this former member, just the opposite in fact. But he is a former member whose behaviour towards the forum since his departure has hardly been the work of a man of peace. You might check some of that too to understand why he is no longer welcome here.

Thank you for the response.
I made no judgement.
I said I have a feeling.
These are two different things.

In principal: any group of people should check itself for signs of group mentality. Any. If it seeks to stay on the Path of truth.
And this is a judgement.

In any case, the really important thing is the reality of his info.
It is, potentially, of the highest value, if true, or mostly true.
I think that none of us is in a position to make a reliable judgement in this matter.
And his info makes sense i lots of ways.
It is, to my mind, the duty of any current seekers of truth in the field of exopolitics
to listen carefully to this man.
And the investigation should be open, disregarding all previous grudges.
He may be fraud.
He may be self deluded.
He may be under control.
He may, also, be a genuine conduit of first class info.
We do not know at this stage.
The matter is too important.
You are playing with words: feeling or judgement, take your pick; either way, your comment was based on insufficient evidence, as you yourself admit. I repeat, there was no herd mentality at work in this particular case; on the contrary, Corey Goode had quite a following, and yet, on the basis of their greater knowledge, the team of moderators took the decision to close his account. There has been quite a herd querying this decision, and I see this is continuing even now. You are stirring the herd mentality even as you warn against it.

The reality of Corey Goode’s info on this forum is that, whether by accident or by design, it too fails to practise what it preaches.

[Nan]

I am a new member here. I have no special abilities, or experiences. I have for almost 10 yrs now known that there is a mass deception going on here on earth. I joined because I value the diverse opinions and unique experiences and abilities of those here in helping me to see more clearly.

That being said, after the last few weeks of reading threads concerning David Wilcock and also this Corey Goode, it has been extremely disheartening. I don't know that what Wilcock is presenting is the truth or if it is a hoax playing on the gullibility of people to keep a following. But this latest disclosure does read like a sci fi novel. Knowing what I do know to be the truth, or close to the truth, if this is a hoax, it seems almost criminal to me, and at the minimum, very sad.

The optimist in me says to reserve judgement, but my optimism is having a tough go with this one.

[kemo]

I'm no great fan of DW but I'd wager that he's not a liar - he may have a rather exaggerated view of himself but what he says I'm sure is what he believes to be true. He has integrity. Whether the info he's given is true is another matter. The Ruiner says Corey's a liar, at least I think that's what he says but he is also one of DWs sources it seems so one doesn't know quite what to believe. In my heart I don't buy it, though that is just a hunch - but I'd like to so I still find this interesting. If my better judgement is right and it's all BS well that will be interesting too in it's own way. Don't get disheartened because that (and confusion) is what disinfo is designed to do. Just don't invest too much in it if you see what I mean.

[RUSirius]

Time will tell, I always got a good vibe in my communications with Corey, my level of real knowledge is that I am sitting in a chair, outside of that...

[Carmody]

When I read any of this 'promises promises promises' stuff, and the lack of delivery, I'm always reminded of the first words of the actual writing, in the Stephen King novel 'The Dark Half'.

David's books are great, they are very informative, the science reporting is fine, but the rest....

[URIKORN]

Personqally my focus, interest and measure of trust is in Corey Goode.
For whatever reason I feel that I respect him. And like him. It does not happen to me very often.

David Wilcock is a man to his own. I respect his zeal, hard work, optimism, but he is not a direct experiencer.

As to Corey:
Up to now I have a good feeling about/from him.
If asked for my feeling I would say: he is a man of substance.
That may also be the reason for the Blue Avians to approach him. One of a couple probably.
Providing, of course, that the story is real and transparent.

Before I posted my offer for "reconsideration" I felt a wave of fear passing throhgh me: people would not like it.
Where did this feeling come from ? Did something in me was reading well a current communal mood ?
I decided not to let that fear to subdue me and say what I had to say.
People should not be afraid to say their minds

[araucaria]

Personqally my focus, interest and measure of trust is in Corey Goode.
For whatever reason I feel that I respect him. And like him. It does not happen to me very often.

Fair enough, but then you seem to have come to the wrong forum, because he lost all respectability and likeability for the way he has been attacking Avalon.

Your wave of fear likely comes from the disconnect between your respect for that person and your membership among a group whose collective position differs from yours.

[hardrock]

I personally apply a ton of discernment to this type of stuff. Is it logical, feasible and comprehend-able.

Are there ruins on mars from our (much more technically advanced) ancestors? probably so and this sounds logical

Do we have a vehicle(s) capable of taking a human that far in space? Probably so and there's enough suppressed science to back this up

Are we in contact with alien beings? Maybe and who knows how many. This sounds reasonable

Do we have a huge trade commerce network with all these alien beings? I highly doubt it. Common sense tells me that if we can't figure out a better energy source than burning refined oil, we probably don't have the means to stop a much more technologically advanced being from taking whatever they want.

Mars - The atmosphere, gravity, etc. etc. is much different than earth ,so having multiple generations and millions of people living off world really bends logic. Think of all the food, water, waste control, etc. that would be necessary. This doesn't sound feasible without more effort than would be worth it.

We need to apply a ton of discernment to what this guy states. Until someone takes me up in an official space vehicle and drops me off at mars and I see it, I'm going to be a thomas about it.

[URIKORN]

Personqally my focus, interest and measure of trust is in Corey Goode.
For whatever reason I feel that I respect him. And like him. It does not happen to me very often.

Fair enough, but then you seem to have come to the wrong forum, because he lost all respectability and likeability for the way he has been attacking Avalon.

Your wave of fear likely comes from the disconnect between your respect for that person and your membership among a group whose collective position differs from yours.


Do you hear what you say ?

[araucaria]

Personqally my focus, interest and measure of trust is in Corey Goode.
For whatever reason I feel that I respect him. And like him. It does not happen to me very often.

Fair enough, but then you seem to have come to the wrong forum, because he lost all respectability and likeability for the way he has been attacking Avalon.

Your wave of fear likely comes from the disconnect between your respect for that person and your membership among a group whose collective position differs from yours.


Do you hear what you say ?
Yes, I do. I am a forum member because I share a number of values with many other members and with the moderation team. The day I stop doing so I shall be out of here. That's what I call personal integrity. Which bit of that do you disagree with?

[Flash]

To me, all this is very good science fiction, until I see with my own eyes. I am up to this behavior of mine, not being able to truly trust anymore. However, I do know that lots of true information are mixed in, therefore I still read, with a grain of salt.

Now Unikorn, I have seen what was going on here on Avalon re: Corey, and read what was going on on the other forum.

The acidic comments and relentless destructiveness were rather from the other side.

I am still seeing a thread over there telling how bad we are here spreading gossips when I know very well what happened here, and in this case the "poor me victime I did nothing and will see nothing wrong with my own behavior" and this thread is supported by most over there.

Disgruntled Avalonians are filling the space over on the other forum. Which truly makes me sad, because I did appreciate many of them for their wits and intelligence (such as lord sidious or modwiz for example).

Same with Corey, while on the other forum he referred to one of my post, a post that was actually without depth, using it to criticize this forum here, as if we were all twits. When Corey was here I never stopped thanking him and appreciating his input, but he still hit with anything Under his hand, here being my post.

Same story over and over again, throughout whistleblowers, the mentality us vs them, the mentality of the strongest fighting, doesn't it look pretty much cabalistic?

This behavior of his is just not at par with being chosen to represent us, humanity. How can I then believe in what he brings in?

That being said, you are welcome here too, Unikorn.

[ulli]

Personqally my focus, interest and measure of trust is in Corey Goode.
For whatever reason I feel that I respect him. And like him. It does not happen to me very often.

Fair enough, but then you seem to have come to the wrong forum, because he lost all respectability and likeability for the way he has been attacking Avalon.

Your wave of fear likely comes from the disconnect between your respect for that person and your membership among a group whose collective position differs from yours.


Do you hear what you say ?

In the context of araucaria's earlier explanations and invitations to investigate the background
this comment above make me wonder about your motives for appearing here at Avalon.
Not every consensus agreement is a sign of herd mentality.

[URIKORN]

I will repeat something I said before, which is worth repeating:

Any group of people, in our current earth vibration, easily falls, in various degrees, into group mentality, into a tribe.
This goes for Avalon as well as Tot, as well as any group, unless there are sufficient quantity of free-spirit people,
who put Truth, whatever it is, before their lower impulses and "needs".
IF "Avalon" cannot agree and feel this trap and danger then it is less then many of its members view themselves to be.
I came here as a free thinker, an individual, and I intend to stay that way.
This does not make me destructive to any really good cause.

If, for example, most members find Corey unworthy for various reasons, that is fine,
legitimate and maybe even wise and experience based.
But let them be tolerant to such a fool as me until i will sober up.

[Flash]

Fair, good point as long as the drunkard does not piss on the carpet, vomit on my sleeves and brake all the china around him while trying to walk straight and sober up:bigsmile:.


I will repeat something I said before, which is worth repeating:

Any group of people, in our current earth vibration, easily falls, in various degrees, into group mentality, into a tribe.
This goes for Avalon as well as Tot, as well as any group, unless there are sufficient quantity of free-spirit people,
who put Truth, whatever it is, before their lower impulses and "needs".
IF "Avalon" cannot agree and feel this trap and danger then it is less then many of its members view themselves to be.
I came here as a free thinker, an individual, and I intend to stay that way.
This does not make me destructive to any really good cause.

If, for example, most members find Corey unworthy for various reasons, that is fine,
legitimate and maybe even wise and experience based.
But let them be tolerant to such a fool as me until i will sober up.

[Joe Akulis]

I definitely understand where Urikorn is coming from. He maybe has not been "once bitten" with regard to material like this, as many of us have been.

I once believed that we were all going to instantly zap into our ascended light bodies in January of 2014. Then when we never did, I kinda stopped taking the source of THAT info very seriously.

Wasn't it the spring of 2013 when the US military was supposed to round up all the evil human crooks on the planet in one fell swoop and put them all on public trial? Once that never happened, I stopped taking THAT source very seriously.

In the case of this material from Corey, it's very similar, in that time is going to be the big truth detector again. Two years from now, Urikorn may be a card carrying member of our "herd." :-)

[URIKORN]

Fair, good point as long as the drunkard does not piss on the carpet, vomit on my sleeves and brake all the china around him while trying to walk straight and sober up:bigsmile:.


I will repeat something I said before, which is worth repeating:

Any group of people, in our current earth vibration, easily falls, in various degrees, into group mentality, into a tribe.
This goes for Avalon as well as Tot, as well as any group, unless there are sufficient quantity of free-spirit people,
who put Truth, whatever it is, before their lower impulses and "needs".
IF "Avalon" cannot agree and feel this trap and danger then it is less then many of its members view themselves to be.
I came here as a free thinker, an individual, and I intend to stay that way.
This does not make me destructive to any really good cause.

If, for example, most members find Corey unworthy for various reasons, that is fine,
legitimate and maybe even wise and experience based.
But let them be tolerant to such a fool as me until i will sober up.



Is that what I am doing ?

[Flash]

Fair, good point as long as the drunkard does not piss on the carpet, vomit on my sleeves and brake all the china around him while trying to walk straight and sober up:bigsmile:.


I will repeat something I said before, which is worth repeating:

Any group of people, in our current earth vibration, easily falls, in various degrees, into group mentality, into a tribe.
This goes for Avalon as well as Tot, as well as any group, unless there are sufficient quantity of free-spirit people,
who put Truth, whatever it is, before their lower impulses and "needs".
IF "Avalon" cannot agree and feel this trap and danger then it is less then many of its members view themselves to be.
I came here as a free thinker, an individual, and I intend to stay that way.
This does not make me destructive to any really good cause.

If, for example, most members find Corey unworthy for various reasons, that is fine,
legitimate and maybe even wise and experience based.
But let them be tolerant to such a fool as me until i will sober up.



Is that what I am doing ?

No, you are not up to now

But yes, I have seen some doing it prior here, and elsewhere.

[Sierra]

I definitely understand where Urikorn is coming from. He maybe has not been "once bitten" with regard to material like this, as many of us have been.

I once believed that we were all going to instantly zap into our ascended light bodies in January of 2014. Then when we never did, I kinda stopped taking the source of THAT info very seriously.

Wasn't it the spring of 2013 when the US military was supposed to round up all the evil human crooks on the planet in one fell swoop and put them all on public trial? Once that never happened, I stopped taking THAT source very seriously.

In the case of this material from Corey, it's very similar, in that time is going to be the big truth detector again. Two years from now, Urikorn may be a card carrying member of our "herd." :-)

If he does his homework, lol. :)

<trotting off to board a vessel of the Ashtar Command>

[URIKORN]

I definitely understand where Urikorn is coming from. He maybe has not been "once bitten" with regard to material like this, as many of us have been.

I once believed that we were all going to instantly zap into our ascended light bodies in January of 2014. Then when we never did, I kinda stopped taking the source of THAT info very seriously.

Wasn't it the spring of 2013 when the US military was supposed to round up all the evil human crooks on the planet in one fell swoop and put them all on public trial? Once that never happened, I stopped taking THAT source very seriously.

In the case of this material from Corey, it's very similar, in that time is going to be the big truth detector again. Two years from now, Urikorn may be a card carrying member of our "herd." :-)


I get your point and I am grateful for your attempt to understand me in a kind manner.
But you read me wrong.
I am much tougher and less self deluded than, by inference, you take me to be.
I DO NOT ALLOW MYSELF TO BE CARRIED AWAY FROM MY CORE AND I DEVELOPPED THE ABILITY TO STICK TO IT.
From a relatively strong and stable inner core i view / feel / assess / take my time Corey's merchandise.
My psychological balance is not dependent upon any specific event happening at any specific time.
For 42 years I tread, alone, a spiritual path, aiming for enlightment, whatever happens around me.
It is fine by me to tread another 50 or 10000 years in the direction of inner salvation, whatever the planet's condition is.
I told myself, from the start, that if I will really succeed to save myself I will be able to really help others.

That said, I find it fascinating that there is a real chance for global groath, and I follow the prospects with enthusiasm

[Aspen]

The parts of the story that I believe could possibly be true are :
1. There are colonies on Mars and possibly other parts of the solar system

2. That they are being run as a conglomerate or business corporation, not a democracy

3. That people living on these colonies may have been told that it is no longer safe to live on Earth

4. That a colony on Mars was originally part of a safety plan in case of nuclear annihilation of humans on earth

5. That the trillions of dollars of debt in the US and other parts of the western world are due to the fact that money has been siphoned off into Secret Space Programs for decades.

The parts that I don't believe are:

1. That these colonies are self sufficient or profitable (they are probably still dependent on earth)

2. That the sphere beings exists and are benevolent and here to help us (I think it is much more likely that Corey, or whatever his real name is, is being used to fabricate a story of saviour beings much like the return of Christ to Earth that is supposed to usher in a 1000 year reign of Peace. It is probably a transformation or "upgrade" of the original plan by secret governments all along, such as Armageddon, project blue beam, fake alien invasion etc.. To my mind it is much more likely that there is a space war going on and that the "Sphere Alliance" are simply a group of military who have superior technology and are forcing Mars to relinquish control over the humans on that planet and are dismantling the cabal on earth that is connected to the petro dollar. Maybe much like billionaires of the past put their money into Switzerland for safe keeping, modern day billionaires put their money into investments in space for safe keeping. Keeping it safe from possible earth destruction by war or natural causes such a solar flares, earthquakes, pole shifts, asteroids etc.

I think that it is entirely possible that Micheal Salla, David Wilcock and Corey Goode (or whatever his real name is) and people like Benjamin Fulford are being used whether knowingly or not by the BRICS, and those allied with them, to bring in a different kind of New World Order. Maybe our own slavery will change a bit, get an upgrade, but it is still likely to be a system of control. It may even have a new world religion. That might explain why the Pope is seeming to be kinder these days (even though he is known to have been involved with the human trafficking business while he was in South America). Maybe the SPhere Alliance and Blue aliens are a recasting of the Project Blue Beam holographic mind control program that was supposed to bring in the new Christ, cause a rapture etc. el1TXBwfw3k Beware of the "Savior" programming.

[PathWalker]

I like reading the public comments on DW's blog.
Here is a real nugget (http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/1181-mars-tour#comment-131116):
so here is the summary:

-some dude named corey gets beamed off planet by orbs to scope out mars
-cory is in touch with a group of bird aliens
-Cory is not not only the hero of planet earth because the birds ET's are speaking to him, but he will be the savior of the entire solar system by awakening the off planet slaves because they heard he is from texas and that knowledge will possibly lead to a giant slave revolt because now the slaves know that earth really isn't destroyed after all and they've been tricked...Reall y????????????

if i turn out to be wrong, i will be the 1st to admit in and apologize. but this is too much for even a weirdo like myself to beleive.

regardless, i was highly entertained!!!!

Your buddy,
Stan Frizzzzzzlefryyyyyyyy!
This is clearly another lighter perspective.

[URIKORN]

I like reading the public comments on DW's blog.
Here is a real nugget (http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/1181-mars-tour#comment-131116):
so here is the summary:

-some dude named corey gets beamed off planet by orbs to scope out mars
-cory is in touch with a group of bird aliens
-Cory is not not only the hero of planet earth because the birds ET's are speaking to him, but he will be the savior of the entire solar system by awakening the off planet slaves because they heard he is from texas and that knowledge will possibly lead to a giant slave revolt because now the slaves know that earth really isn't destroyed after all and they've been tricked...Reall y????????????

if i turn out to be wrong, i will be the 1st to admit in and apologize. but this is too much for even a weirdo like myself to beleive.

regardless, i was highly entertained!!!!

Your buddy,
Stan Frizzzzzzlefryyyyyyyy!
This is clearly another lighter perspective.


But, to be accurate to the facts, Corey, to my mind, does not present himself as any savior.
He is but one piece, one element, amongs many other men and women and off world forces.
It is we, some of the readers, that put him in such a presumptious position, and then attack or mock him.
Other than that I accept the light spirit. It is part of our balancing mechanism

[Redstar Kachina]

..........

[RUSirius]

The potential for "direct effect" reality/mind control could be in play here via "Corey's Adventure/s", David Wilcock, Ben Fulford ext., generally speaking, most of us know there is potential for that and it has certainly been the buzz around the community, we've seen this sort of stuff before. However, I remain open for the potential of a positive surprise, most of us don't know what tomorrow can bring. I do my best to remain neutral with information that I cant directly corroborate while keeping my eyes open in attempt to not be fooled. Probably like most of you here.

[Gurudatt]

Love and Peace

[Roxann]

As I was reading the summary of this information on the Exopolitics.org site (http://exopolitics.org/mission-to-mars-investigates-claims-of-slave-labor-at-secret-corporate-base/), the thought came to me of District 13 from the Hunger Games trilogy. Supposedly, this district was free, and yet the citizens there were under tight leadership, too. The conditions in that district looked rather similar to what was found in the Mars colony. The main differences are that District 13 did not have an overtly corporate leadership, nor did they seem to have external trade arrangements. District 13 may have escaped some forms of tyranny, but it still had some dystopic characteristics. And, for that matter, life outside The Matrix wasn't exactly paradisiacal, either.

I've seen warnings that whatever happens, we must be careful not to bargain away our sovereignty. Up until now, people have done so to get loans from bankers. In some countries, debts can be inherited as well as the assets, and the offspring of debtors have found themselves enslaved to the bankers due to some petty debt incurred by an ancestor generations prior. Those saying that the ETs are coming talk about the "shock and awe" that the disclosures will create. I suppose part of the task of those of us willing to contemplate that such a thing actually is coming will be to keep the populous from panicking and accepting a deal that does not serve them.

Supposedly, in times past when ETs have come to this earth, humans gave them the rank of god with absolute authority over them. The mindset of the population of this planet is such now that we will probably see the ETs in a much different way this time, but the risk still exists that they will be so overwhelmed by the technological capabilities that they will bend the knee in fear.

I suppose what needs to be done is to determine what asset we might have that might help us maintain our sovereignty in the face of being out-teched. It has to be somehow related to the power of thought to create, a power that has been dumbed down in modern society in order that the elite could maintain the upper hand.

[Rocky_Shorz]

all of us only need to answer 1 question on whether it is worth following Corey,


Is it possible?


all of us believe, the answer is yes


without expanding imaginations, that sends the mind exploring for more, we would not get any further on truths...

I've had a Blue skinned alien hanging around for 3 years now, so for me, I am looking and listening to what he is sharing.

If I have a dream where I OTB to Mars and see facilities packed with people, I will have a chance to confirm what I have learned from other's stories.

the moon never spins to show us what is behind it...

is it really an alien observatory of humans, they've been watching and manipulating since the beginning.

2.5 billion years ago a reactor was made for power that is far advanced of anything man currently knows...

what civilizations have come before, what races has walked the face of this planet?

are some living inside?

are others surrounding us, our cats and dogs... what planet did they arrive from?

Lemurs? our true ancestors, not the ape, who knew...


nope I'll just keep reading along to see if it sparks a trip that confirms everything he is sharing... or not...

[aranuk]

Corey stated that on the 20th June Mars was on the other side of the sun. Untrue. It was directly in front of the sun. It takes two years for Mars to orbit the sun. Actually Sun was 28 degrees Gemini and Mars was 27 degrees Gemini. This means if you were looking at the Sun Mars would be two Sun diameters to the right of the sun so you wouldn't see it. It will be a year until Mars is behind the sun. So Corey's story is not all truthful. Ask Ulli she will agree with me.

Stan

[URIKORN]

Corey stated that on the 20th June Mars was on the other side of the sun. Untrue. It was directly in front of the sun. It takes two years for Mars to orbit the sun. Actually Sun was 28 degrees Gemini and Mars was 27 degrees Gemini. This means if you were looking at the Sun Mars would be two Sun diameters to the right of the sun so you wouldn't see it. It will be a year until Mars is behind the sun. So Corey's story is not all truthful. Ask Ulli she will agree with me.

Stan


Corey's exact words:


We were informed that this trip would take close to half an hour because Mars was just on the other side of the sun so it added time to the trip for a reason that was not explained.

He often says the the ICC hosts tried to manipulate, to control the time table. He
does not offer this "fact" as his

see:


Joint SSP, Sphere Alliance & ICC Leadership Conference & Tour of Mars Colony on 6.20.2015

by Corey/GoodETxSG
22 Jun 2015 : 10:24

http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/joint-ssp-sphere-alliance-icc-leadership-conference-tour-of-mars-colony-on-6-20.html

[Lancet]

i would put forth this suggestion:-

there is a way to substantiate these new material that Corey has put forth. If he is willing to disclose the location of these trading ports, building dock location on the colonies, then it would be possible for remote viewers to verify.
If he is not willing, then I/we reserve the right not to believe his material.

As i once read on redefininggod.com by Ken, he said this 'Ken’s First Rule for Not Being a Sucker: When a “former” insider comes forth to offer you information and interpretation, don’t discount the likelihood that the former insider is a current insider tasked with misleading you." ( link http://redefininggod.com/2015/05/globalist-agenda-watch-2015-update-24-globalist-shill-paul-craig-roberts-confirms-bankster-strategy-for-greece/ )

[Carmody]

It is important to distract those who seek new worlds, as those are the people who seed change.

Removing the point of impact creates a non impact. A 'no-change'.

If we sit on our arses and read the esoteric newspaper, we don't have to risk ourselves, do we? We can fiddle with our touchy-feelie bits and get all emotional but don't have to do anything directly.


The monkey/primate always seeks to sit inside the perimeter of the herd and uses the life and death of the outer edges of the herd as an alarm system, to tell it when to move from the dangers, and to move to ward the better food source. No monkey/primate sleeps on the edge of the pack, they always sleep when in the center, where the more powerful 'leaders'/dominant ones gather. Where comfort exists within the numbers, where attention can be relaxed from vigilance..into touchy-feelie bits.

I fail to see the difference between what people seek out on these forums, and what the primate on the savannah does. No difference whatsoever.

If you can see that, then you can see how you are manipulated. The monkey is still, to this day....very much in charge of the core of the human's perception and act.

[Alan]

Corey stated that on the 20th June Mars was on the other side of the sun. Untrue. It was directly in front of the sun. It takes two years for Mars to orbit the sun. Actually Sun was 28 degrees Gemini and Mars was 27 degrees Gemini. This means if you were looking at the Sun Mars would be two Sun diameters to the right of the sun so you wouldn't see it. It will be a year until Mars is behind the sun. So Corey's story is not all truthful. Ask Ulli she will agree with me.

Stan

Take a look here and you will see that Mars is currently on the opposite side of the sun with respect to the Earth.

http://www.theplanetstoday.com/

[Alan]

Also: https://in-the-sky.org/news.php?id=20150614_13_100

At closest approach, Mars and the Sun will appear at a separation of only 0°37', making Mars totally unobservable for several weeks while it is lost in the Sun's glare.

At around the same time, Mars will also be at its most distant from the Earth – receding to a distance of 2.57 AU – since the two planets will lie on opposite sides of the solar system.

[Carmody]

Corey stated that on the 20th June Mars was on the other side of the sun. Untrue. It was directly in front of the sun. It takes two years for Mars to orbit the sun. Actually Sun was 28 degrees Gemini and Mars was 27 degrees Gemini. This means if you were looking at the Sun Mars would be two Sun diameters to the right of the sun so you wouldn't see it. It will be a year until Mars is behind the sun. So Corey's story is not all truthful. Ask Ulli she will agree with me.

Stan

Take a look here and you will see that Mars is currently on the opposite side of the sun with respect to the Earth.

http://www.theplanetstoday.com/

that is a very nice astrology site. The geometric lines really help people get an understanding of what is going on..

In that image on their opening page, imagine all the planets sitting, or floating on a flat plane of water.

Then imagine each of them bouncing up and down, vibrating. This includes the sun and earth, all vibrating.

Imagine the concentric circles that emerge from them in the form of ripples.

Imagine how the ripples combine.

See how the ripples combine from the viewpoint of being on and at the earth.

A geometric mean is created at the earth condition/position...and we measure or align the given results with that geometric grid.

That's astrology.

There is a secondary wave that creates some of the primary ripple conditions. And that is the galactic wave. This is the vibratory constant in the backdrop of all of the vibrating planet conditions... that creates the 12 signs.

[ulli]

From where we are on earth both the sun and Mars have just entered the sign of Cancer,
and last week were still both at the end of Gemini.
Mars was further away than the sun,
which means that Mars was on the other side of the sun.

In astrology there are two ways of looking at the solar system, one is called geocentric,
and the other is heliocentric. In the heliocentric system (the sun is at the centre) Mars and earth would have been at opposite sides of the sun.
I think where Aranuk slipped up here is that he was coming from the geocentric approach, and thus Mars could not have been in Sagittarius, IE the opposite side to the sun.
For a moment there I also saw it like he did.
But really, there is no contradiction.

[RUSirius]

all of us only need to answer 1 question on whether it is worth following Corey,


Is it possible?


all of us believe, the answer is yes


without expanding imaginations, that sends the mind exploring for more, we would not get any further on truths...

I've had a Blue skinned alien hanging around for 3 years now, so for me, I am looking and listening to what he is sharing.

If I have a dream where I OTB to Mars and see facilities packed with people, I will have a chance to confirm what I have learned from other's stories.

the moon never spins to show us what is behind it...

is it really an alien observatory of humans, they've been watching and manipulating since the beginning.

2.5 billion years ago a reactor was made for power that is far advanced of anything man currently knows...

what civilizations have come before, what races has walked the face of this planet?

are some living inside?

are others surrounding us, our cats and dogs... what planet did they arrive from?

Lemurs? our true ancestors, not the ape, who knew...


nope I'll just keep reading along to see if it sparks a trip that confirms everything he is sharing... or not...

This is pretty much the line I have been following as well.

[aranuk]

From where we are on earth both the sun and Mars have just entered the sign of Cancer,
and last week were still both at the end of Gemini.
Mars was further away than the sun,
which means that Mars was on the other side of the sun.

In astrology there are two ways of looking at the solar system, one is called geocentric,
and the other is heliocentric. In the heliocentric system (the sun is at the centre) Mars and earth would have been at opposite sides of the sun.
I think where Aranuk slipped up here is that he was coming from the geocentric approach, and thus Mars could not have been in Sagittarius, IE the opposite side to the sun.
For a moment there I also saw it like he did.
But really, there is no contradiction.

I apologize. My bad. I made the mistake of thinking because Mars and Sun in conjunction Mars would be nearer the Earth than the sun. I was very tired when I noticed it.

Stan

[Rocky_Shorz]

well remember, blue dude traveled with my seer to the moons' dark side and met with aliens, so far advanced from humans they considered my seer a stupid child. she graduated college at 16...

Corey as far as I know has never shared anything about aliens he is meeting, shielded and surrounded by humans...

these 3 enormous ships that attached creating an arc large enough to evacuate every human from earth, is unforgettable...

if that is the inner galactic airport the blue orbs brought him to, both from earth and Mars, why travel by ship?

why not just take the orb to Mars in the first place?

if the aliens on the moon use these orbs for transporting humans, maybe those are the escape pods they would use for planet evacuation.

8 billion blue orbs appear, scoop a human and disappear moments before a life ending event on the planet...

why did they just show up now...

is something heading our way, that our most sophisticated detection equipment can't detect?

are we being introduced to other humans from distant planets because soon we will be joining them?

how much if any does our government know?

[thunder24]

why did they just show up now...

is something heading our way, that our most sophisticated detection equipment can't detect?

are we being introduced to other humans from distant planets because soon we will be joining them?

how much if any does our government know?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy1I-eWF2N8 mayb

[Sierra]

It's my opinion, just my opinion, that the Blue Avian scenario is a mind control implant.

I think this because Corey hounded Bill and Avalon for five straight months on other websites, because Bill disagreed on one point in his conversation ... I think it was about entities (?), and stormed off Avalon in a huff.

Five months of unreasonable daily harassment implies Corey was getting triggered daily, unable to calm down, not allowed to calm down.

Cui bono? Motive? Agenda? Who is being controlled here?

Meanwhile, we wait, as we wait for all the previous dispensers of such glad tidings of certain_rescue_is_imminent_but_no_we_must_do_it_ourselves (Drake, Ashtar, Fulford, Red Dragons, White Dragons, Orange Dragons (no, I threw in the last one, and I'm not sure about white either.) etc. to reveal itself in the real world.

Why don't we just get on with it and do it ourselves.

Sure, I'll watch, but I don't buy it. Yet. How can I, the dichotomy between what Corey says, and how he behaves generates a rather large credibility gap.

But I'll watch...

Tune in same time next year lol.

Update:

Interesting. Seems I'm not the only one with this opinion. See Herbert's posts #1 and #3. Checking out the links now:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83164-The-Blue-Avians-is-a-Mind-Control-Program-for-Members-Inside-a-Secret-Space-Program-of-1950s-Origin&p=972465&viewfull=1#post972465

[Elainie]

It's my opinion, just my opinion, that the Blue Avian scenario is a mind control implant.

I think this because Corey hounded Bill and Avalon for five straight months on other websites, because Bill disagreed on one point in his conversation ... I think it was about entities (?), and stormed off Avalon in a huff.

Five months of unreasonable daily harassment implies Corey was getting triggered daily, unable to calm down, not allowed to calm down.

Cui bono? Motive? Agenda? Who is being controlled here?

Meanwhile, we wait, as we wait for all the previous dispensers of such glad tidings of certain_rescue_is_imminent_but_no_we_must_do_it_ourselves (Drake, Ashtar, Fulford, Red Dragons, White Dragons, Orange Dragons (no, I threw in the last one, and I'm not sure about white either.) etc. to reveal itself in the real world.

Why don't we just get on with it and do it ourselves.

Sure, I'll watch, but I don't buy it. Yet. How can I, the dichotomy between what Corey says, and how he behaves generates a rather large credibility gap.

But I'll watch...

Tune in same time next year lol.



I don't believe it's even as high tech as mind control. I believe it's fabricated (some truth mixed in with a whole lot of elaboration) from data mining. I've seen various (from 3 plus people now) skype convos going back years with this Corey person...............as to the agenda well several hope it's some cash cow. That's my belief and I'm sticking with it.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

It's my opinion, just my opinion, that the Blue Avian scenario is a mind control implant.

Have you seen this, Sierra?


BLUEBIRD
Deliberate Creation of Multiple
Personality by Psychiatrists

By Colin A. Ross MD

A 10-Page Summary

In this summary of Bluebird, Dr. Ross describes unethical experiments conducted by psychiatrists to create amnesia, new identities, hypnotic access codes, and new memories in the minds of experimental subjects. His research is based on 15,000 pages of documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. Dr. Ross is a past president of the International Society for the Study of Dissociation. Please help to spread the word.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg


This is a book that was published about 15 years ago, in the year 2000. Project BLUEBIRD?

There is a pretty lengthy article on that site, that goes into Operation Paperclip, the CIA, MK-ULTRA, inducing multiple personality disorder in people and all that of that kind of stuff.

[RUSirius]

Regardless of opinions, its good to see people stepping lightly, I have not seen to many opinions (at least recently) passionately in favor of Coreys material regardless of its validity or not. I dont see it as having anything to do with Corey at all, just the "been there, done that" approach with sensitive material/topics. Maybe there is some truth, maybe he is a pawn, knowingly or not, I no longer understand the point of a disinformation campaign, whats the friggin point, I'm bored with it, best I see it must be amusing for select people to watch the tidal wave of responses and opinions and not much else. But its possible I dont see all that well either.

[Harley]

It's my opinion, just my opinion, that the Blue Avian scenario is a mind control implant.

Have you seen this, Sierra?


BLUEBIRD
Deliberate Creation of Multiple
Personality by Psychiatrists

By Colin A. Ross MD

A 10-Page Summary

In this summary of Bluebird, Dr. Ross describes unethical experiments conducted by psychiatrists to create amnesia, new identities, hypnotic access codes, and new memories in the minds of experimental subjects. His research is based on 15,000 pages of documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. Dr. Ross is a past president of the International Society for the Study of Dissociation. Please help to spread the word.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg

--------------------------------

That's right, correct, and exactamundo!
Now you're gettin it! :)

Also learn about Project/Operation ARTICHOKE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_ARTICHOKE)


[...] was a CIA project that researched interrogation methods and arose from Project BLUEBIRD on August 20, 1951, run by the CIA's Office of Scientific Intelligence. A memorandum by Richard Helms to CIA director Allen Welsh Dulles indicated Artichoke became Project MKULTRA on April 13, 1953.

The project studied hypnosis, forced morphine addiction (and subsequent forced withdrawal), and the use of other chemicals including LSD, to produce amnesia and other vulnerable states in subjects.

ARTICHOKE was a mind control program that gathered information together with the intelligence divisions of the Army, Navy, Air Force, and FBI. In addition, the scope of the project was outlined in a memo dated January 1952 that stated, "Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self-preservation?"

But be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater . . .

Disinformation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation):


[...] is intentionally false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately. It is an act of deception and false statements to convince someone of untruth. Disinformation should not be confused with misinformation, information that is unintentionally false.

Unlike traditional propaganda techniques designed to engage emotional support, disinformation is designed to manipulate the audience at the rational level by either discrediting conflicting information or supporting false conclusions. A common disinformation tactic is to mix some truth and observation with false conclusions and lies, or to reveal part of the truth while presenting it as the whole (a limited hangout).

Another technique of concealing facts, or censorship, is also used if the group can affect such control. When channels of information cannot be completely closed, they can be rendered useless by filling them with disinformation, effectively lowering their signal-to-noise ratio and discrediting the opposition by association with many easily disproved false claims.

Many of you say that a lot of what's being written feels like Science Fiction (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/science+fiction):


[...] Works of fiction that use scientific discoveries or advanced technology — either actual or imaginary — as part of their plot. Jules Verne and H. G. Wells were early writers of science fiction. More recent ones are Isaac Asimov and Ray Bradbury.

Have any of you ever used a toaster before? The reality of the toaster was based on Science Fiction, as does literally every other piece of technology that we know of (and that which has yet to be revealed to us) today.

And then there is Fantasy (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fantasy):


Something that is produced by the imagination : an idea about doing something that is far removed from normal reality.

Sometimes there can be a thin line between Science-Fiction and Fantasy. But when the imagination begins to stretch into the level of extravagant and unrestrained (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fantasy), that's when your BS Meter (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bs+Meter) should be pegging out. Of course not everyone's BS Meter is calibrated quite the same, but close enough that most should be able to come to similar (if not the same) conclusions. :)

Now after reading (and understanding) the above, which parts of the story being told feels the most likely to be true even though it's being wrapped within an overwhelming amount of Fantasy?

There are things that they really, really do not want you to know!

:)

[Hervé]

Well, here is what I think is at stake (posted on The Ruiner's thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81805-The-Blog-of-The-Ruiner-Inside-the-Illuminati-Mind)):


Comments... here is one with its answer that leads to the crux of the matter:


AnonymousJune 24, 2015 at 8:46 PM (http://theruiner777.blogspot.com/2015/06/requested-letter.html?showComment=1435193180381#c6771306841483311320)
Hello Ruiner,

This sounds like a threat,

"You've damn near voided your agreement with us by inspiring this fiasco so tread carefully."

Who are the runaways and what is meant by this statement?

Thanks also for clarifying if Cassandra was a "she", for some reason I had thought all the "parents" were male?

[...]

gracias
edina



The Ruiner (http://www.blogger.com/profile/16858506037326813156)June 24, 2015 at 9:05 PM (http://theruiner777.blogspot.com/2015/06/requested-letter.html?showComment=1435194311765#c430441527689633989)
The "runaways" are the intended audience of this blog. Called that because they left the orders and programs they were involved with.

Many of the Parents are/were female.

This writer thinks you've had a great response.

With respect,


That, to me anyway, is the real reason behind Corey having been activated on Avalon and his ensuing attempts at wrecking Avalon as much as he could: Avalon was providing invaluable help to some of these runaways.

As I wrote somewhere else:


What I wrote has to do with the purpose of Shane's blog:


The Ruiner was created for a group of people I know outside the forums and Internet community. People I know who are in programs and projects or parts of the "family" who are victims of these mind control programs. I was asked to talk about this (by the group who is my intended audience) in a way that ensured safe delivery of my words - The Blog.Which I correlate to that idea I have that Corey, DW and, before them, the likes of Mark Phillips (http://www.rense.com/general2/phil.htm) (<--- read) have been doing: collect the Milabs, MKultra, Supersoldiers, etc., for disinfo and damage control purposes... and which is what Corey was doing on Avalon. So, indeed, it is not about Corey, DW or Mark Phillips, it's about their operation of loose-cannon/Milabs herding.As for Mr. Green... Cassandra's nickname for "The Writer"... that's an indication of "the programmer"... as in being "Greenbaumed (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=485533&viewfull=1#post485533)."

[Sierra]

:


It's my opinion, just my opinion, that the Blue Avian scenario is a mind control implant.

Have you seen this, Sierra?


BLUEBIRD
Deliberate Creation of Multiple
Personality by Psychiatrists

By Colin A. Ross MD

A 10-Page Summary

In this summary of Bluebird, Dr. Ross describes unethical experiments conducted by psychiatrists to create amnesia, new identities, hypnotic access codes, and new memories in the minds of experimental subjects. His research is based on 15,000 pages of documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. Dr. Ross is a past president of the International Society for the Study of Dissociation. Please help to spread the word.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg

--------------------------------

That's right, correct, and exactamundo!
Now you're gettin it! :)

Also learn about Project/Operation ARTICHOKE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_ARTICHOKE)

:snip:

Now after reading (and understanding) the above, which parts of the story being told feels the most likely to be true even though it's being wrapped within an overwhelming amount of Fantasy?

There are things that they really, really do not want you to know!

:)

Well...

Aliens are real
We have agreements (we being an assortment of black op govts) with aliens
Most aliens have a hands off attitude towards humans
The ones that don't are using humans as resources per black govt contracts
Blue Avian is pie in the sky so reality isn't
It really sucks to be an alien resource
Most aliens disapprove of how the elite treat this planet, flora, fauna, humans
There may be a hidden agenda we don't know about re destruction of Gaia
A subset of aliens in bed with the elite run this global trashing program
We are considered pretty retarded, easy to run programs on us, not advanced
Some say aliens are demons, angels, inter dimensional, I have no idea
I suspect there are as many competing groups of aliens as there are human
There is probably a federation of sorts somewhere
if we are soldiers out there, we're nasty, and we're winning (using us as mercs)
It is our sovereignty or a prime directive of sorts that keeps neutrals away
I think 900 civilizations is where the media beast to be fed has taken over truth


What they do not want us to know? That we are terrifyingly powerful, and the longer they dam the tide the worse the fallout is going to be, and meanwhile we live in a bombastic world designed to distract, not allow us quiet and solitude to clear, and bring our focus down to the lower chakras to generate sex, fear, and war porn?

I have no idea actually, but "they" are doing their damnedest to block us. From something.

Bsbray: No, I have not seen that, thank you, I will read it. :)

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Yes, Herve. I agree. The runaways were/are the agenda. That is what Blue Avain seems designed to do.

P.S. And it worries me, the merc scenario. What if humans are breaking galactic mores? Using planet busters? Will it blow back on the ignorant humans? I can't see us being a model of restraint some how...

[URIKORN]

Be careful lest you become too careful


"The Old Woman and the Eagle" Hoopoe Books promo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bauVXPNVIE

1bauVXPNVIE

[URIKORN]

For a couple of years now i follow, in YOUTUBE, and now PDF too, conversations
between "Captain Bill", an earthling, and Mythi, an alien from Andromeda.
True or fiction, or an intended lie, the material is fascinating.

One of things that Mythi - he says he is an anthropologist in a fleet that aims to aid
us in our period of transition - talks about is the multi leveled structure of the
Universe according to his civilization.
He says (in my words) that each stage/dimension has 10 levels.
We, earthlings are in level 3, in the first dimension.

His civilization has individuals ranging from level 4 to 6, if memory serves.

When we all die (all individuals in all the 10 levels) we pass on into a place
in which we all are assisted by those who are called the Blue Beings.

All 10 levels, according to Mythi's terminology belong to the same dimension.
The Blue Beings exist in the next dimension.

Now, accordingly, it occured to me that the Blue AVIANS, exist in our
dimension, in density (level) 7, 8 , 9 but still, in our dimension.
Their blueness may have to do with their relative closeness to the Blue
Beings of the next dimension.


01 - ANSWERS OF AN ALIEN FROM ANDROMEDA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG9Yh8MsPiY&list=PLak7HqH519wed_oJ-wiqOeO7d5VI23f6n


QG9Yh8MsPiY

for the PDF:

http://www.mythi.com.br/


For whatever reason I hardly found, in Avalon, interest in this material, which in
many ways is very very down to earth, or, down to the stars

One of the tasks of the Blue Beings, according to Mythi, is to help direct souls
that passed over back into their next reincarnation


Just a couple of minutes ago I noticed the last Mythi video (the previous one was a
month ago):

134 - ANSWERS OF AN ALIEN FROM ANDROMEDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWHKW20YFUA

lWHKW20YFUA


I n t e r e s t i n g

[URIKORN]

I wrote:

I recall listening to Simon Parkes. If memory serves me right he, also, commented that China and Russia own technology that gives them an edge over the West.


correction on 26/06/2015
A bit late maybe but here is a correction:
I am almost sure that it was not Simon Parkes that spoke about the East
technological advantage in war - it was Mythi in one of last 50 videos or so:

this is the last one:
134 - ANSWERS OF AN ALIEN FROM ANDROMEDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWHKW20YFUA

[Selene]

Dr. Michael Salla has just posted news that the U.S. House of Representatives has taken a major step toward passing a bill that would provide legal protection for companies engaged in space mining and who employ slave labor. http://exopolitics.org/us-congress-to-protect-slave-labor-on-mars-corporate-space-colonies/

This is deeply disturbing and lends important credence to Corey’s information. Congress is now moving to protect the off-world corporations by exempting them from international human rights courts. This is not a drill, friends. Not a fantasy. The PTB are working very hard now to defend themselves against an inevitable (we hope) disclosure and criminal tribunal.

From Dr. Salla:

“On June 15, the U.S. House of Representatives took a major step in passing a bill that provides legal protection to space mining by U.S. based corporations that establish off-world operations. While most members of the House’s “Science, Space and Technology Committee” that passed the bill may have done so with the impression that they would protect the rights of U.S. companies in future space mining missions, they instead have provided legal protection to corporations that have been secretly conducting such operations for decades. This is especially significant given recent claims that off-world space mining by U.S. affiliated corporations have used slave labor on Mars and elsewhere in our solar system.

The bill, “H.R.1508: Space Resource Exploration and Utilization Act of 2015,” was introduced and referred to the Science, Space and Technology Committee by a bipartisan group of eight members on March 19, 2015. On June 15, after an 18-15 vote two days earlier in favor of amending the bill, it was officially sent to the full House for a vote in an upcoming session. An identical bipartisan bill has been introduced into the Senate by Senators Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Patty Murry (D-WA).”

<snip> [Description of the bill’s provisions…]

“The subsequent clause is even more alarming:

(3) promote the right of United States commercial entities to explore outer space and utilize space resources, in accordance with the existing international obligations of the United States, free from harmful interference…

What does “free from harmful interference” mean? In the case of a mining corporation imposing slave labor working conditions, this clause suggests that international organizations such as the International Criminal Court would not have the power to directly intervene. Basically, managers at prospective space mining operations would be protected under U.S. Federal Law from international organizations investigating them for using slave labor. "

More here: http://exopolitics.org/us-congress-to-protect-slave-labor-on-mars-corporate-space-colonies/

Regards,

Selene

[A Voice from the Mountains]

“The subsequent clause is even more alarming:

(3) promote the right of United States commercial entities to explore outer space and utilize space resources, in accordance with the existing international obligations of the United States, free from harmful interference…

It mentions "in accordance with the existing international obligations of the United States."

I assume this would include the Geneva Convention and many other international laws which ensure basic human rights in any condition, even for prisoners of war or domestic prisoners.

Of course laws do not stop the US government from doing whatever they want. But there are already laws in place that would allow prosecution of corporations if they were involved in such a thing. It's just a matter of enforcing them, which is the key.

[Camilo]

Alex Jones Total Emergency Alert: Elite Now Evacuating

https://youtu.be/pnGl8Nz0oLE (12 min. video)

Published on 06/20/2015

Alex makes an urgent message concerning the severity of the current global climate. Insider information pointed directly towards global financial meltdown and global war.

[Selene]

Update: Dr. Michael Salla has just been removed from his long-standing position with Examiner.com. following his postings of 1) news regarding the bill before the U.S. Congress [cited above here] and 2) a previous post noting that the British Interplanetary Society was recently asked (by MI6?) to game a ‘hypothetical’ scenario of – guess what – rescuing a slave colony on Mars without destroying the manufacturing facilities.

Seems like ‘someone’ wants Salla silenced, and has removed access to his major media outlet.

The game is heating up.

From Michael Salla’s Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/DrMichaelSalla/posts/798246296960474?hc_location=ufi

“I received the following email today announcing that my news column with Examiner.com has been immediately closed with all articles/links removed. I have been writing for the Examiner since Jan 2009. Over the last few months or so, the Examiner has been increasingly pressuring its news bloggers to only use "legitimate news" sources. As a result I wrote fewer articles but kept my account in good standing by referencing mainstream sources in the Examiner articles I did write.

This does not appear to have been sufficient. Someone at the Examiner does not want exopolitics articles at all, despite all the evidence that ET issues do impact international politics.

I find the timing of this termination with Examiner very suspicious given the comprehensive coverage that I'm giving to Corey Goode's revelations concerning Secret Space Programs. My guess is that the Examiner did not want this material appearing and getting any additional media exposure. M.S.

"Dear Mr. Salla,
Thank you for your participation as an Examiner on Examiner.com. We regret to inform you that we are terminating your status as an Examiner, effective immediately. Your account has been deactivated. We appreciate the time, effort and consideration you put into this work, but we feel that your content is not the right fit for Examiner.com at this time." http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-honolu…/michael-salla “

Cheers,

Selene

[Elainie]

Update: Dr. Michael Salla has just been removed from his long-standing position with Examiner.com. following his postings of 1) news regarding the bill before the U.S. Congress [cited above here] and 2) a previous post noting that the British Interplanetary Society was recently asked (by MI6?) to game a ‘hypothetical’ scenario of – guess what – rescuing a slave colony on Mars without destroying the manufacturing facilities.

Seems like ‘someone’ wants Salla silenced, and has removed access to his major media outlet.

The game is heating up.

From Michael Salla’s Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/DrMichaelSalla/posts/798246296960474?hc_location=ufi

“I received the following email today announcing that my news column with Examiner.com has been immediately closed with all articles/links removed. I have been writing for the Examiner since Jan 2009. Over the last few months or so, the Examiner has been increasingly pressuring its news bloggers to only use "legitimate news" sources. As a result I wrote fewer articles but kept my account in good standing by referencing mainstream sources in the Examiner articles I did write.

This does not appear to have been sufficient. Someone at the Examiner does not want exopolitics articles at all, despite all the evidence that ET issues do impact international politics.

I find the timing of this termination with Examiner very suspicious given the comprehensive coverage that I'm giving to Corey Goode's revelations concerning Secret Space Programs. My guess is that the Examiner did not want this material appearing and getting any additional media exposure. M.S.

"Dear Mr. Salla,
Thank you for your participation as an Examiner on Examiner.com. We regret to inform you that we are terminating your status as an Examiner, effective immediately. Your account has been deactivated. We appreciate the time, effort and consideration you put into this work, but we feel that your content is not the right fit for Examiner.com at this time." http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-honolu…/michael-salla “

Cheers,

Selene


Or perhaps it's not about silencing but more to do with credibility, and they don't want to be associated with it any longer.

[sandpainter]

Good observation URIKORN! "It certainly feels like a chapter in a science fiction book." You stress that "feeling" is what is swaying you. I would advise hopeful yet skeptical caution. How much revenue for Wilcock, Good & Salla do you think is generated by these periodic installments of totally unsupported, cosmically sensational claims? Lancet & Zionbrion smell money and so do I. If each serial revelation was accompanied by a comic book or graphic novel then it would produce even more of a bonanza. This entire genre appears to be an industry. Where is there a single shred of corroborating evidence? ERK, I think, hits the nail on the head with the description of "data mining." The information may be too syncretic to be original and genuine. Corey & Cobra ring the same dissonant bells for me ...

[Elainie]

Good observation URIKORN! "It certainly feels like a chapter in a science fiction book." You stress that "feeling" is what is swaying you. I would advise skeptical caution. How much revenue for Wilcock, Good & Salla do you think is generated by these periodic installments of totally unsupported, cosmically sensational claims? Lancet & Zionbrion smell money. If this whole 'revelation' was accompanied by a comic book or graphic novel then it would be even more of a bonanza. This whole genre appears to be an industry. Where is there a single shred of corroborating evidence? ERK, I think, hits the nail on the head with the description of "data mining." The information may be too syncretic to be original and genuine. Corey & Cobra ring the same dissonant bells for me ...




^^^ this is my issue with the disclosure movement. It's become an industry onto itself. How many years have we been listening to the same thing, recycled into *new* information, new ET's, new agendas and so on. Zero evidence and then when nothing pans out all we hear is excuses. David Wilcock and the like have zero credibility in my eyes now.

[URIKORN]

He announced it just recently.
Too busy, he says. Overload.
I can understand it, following the fury of his activity, trying to attend to as many
approaches and questions.
I wish him well, and intend to proceed and follow publications of his and about
him, as long as heart and mind will be attracted. So far they are.


He writes there:


I have asked for this Thread to be closed and my account to be retired on TOT and all Forums.

I have become far to busy to keep up with forum life. DW and I will be on Open Your Minds Radio at 1PM central today live.


When I was a young man, after alowing myself to overcome some sort of a conditioning to which I submitted, I started reading SF literature with pleasure
and interest. I felt that it expands my mind.
In the last couple of years I came to realize that reality may be richer and more
fantastic than all the books I read.
So, why not proceed in the same direction.
Soon i will be dead and there is only one mind and one heart that I have access to:
mine
All my mistakes are mine
All my victories are mine

[Rocky_Shorz]

why did they just show up now...

is something heading our way, that our most sophisticated detection equipment can't detect?

are we being introduced to other humans from distant planets because soon we will be joining them?

how much if any does our government know?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy1I-eWF2N8 mayb

take a look at the dark energy waves, after watching 8 years, I've never seen double waves passing like these (real Time image will scroll by in a few days)

http://lasp.colorado.edu/eve/data_access/quicklook/quicklook_data/latest_3day.png

[Flash]

I do not understand this graph, where is the wave from, which kind of wave, what is the radiance axis about? and the source might help us understand. And there is the black section, but also an orange graph, and some red on top, what are they for? and what black means?






why did they just show up now...

is something heading our way, that our most sophisticated detection equipment can't detect?

are we being introduced to other humans from distant planets because soon we will be joining them?

how much if any does our government know?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy1I-eWF2N8 mayb

take a look at the dark energy waves, after watching 8 years, I've never seen double waves passing like these (real Time image will scroll by in a few days)

http://lasp.colorado.edu/eve/data_access/quicklook/quicklook_data/latest_3day.png

[URIKORN]

Open Your Mind Radio -
Guests - Corey Good & David Wilcock - Sunday 28th June 2015
http://www.oymradio.com/show-archives-mp3-format.html

i n t e r e s t i n g


I am not a flower boy
Nor am i a New AGE self
If any, I am an Old Age soul
Deeply old

They gassed me in Auschwitz
They bit me to pulp
They burnt my body
And the smoke went up to the sky

I survived Auschwitz
Nothing of my humanity harmed
I am not afraid of death
And I oppose evil

I am the living soul of the dead from Auschwitz
And I want to tell you
That i like David and Corey
And I want Auschwitz to not happen again



interview in youtube:

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[Carmody]

Try spending some time opposing the evil in the Knesset.

You know they are probably going to attack the 'freedom flotilla' again, as they want to hold onto the stolen land they took from the people they murdered, in order to steal it from them.

But we know that they themselves are just a set-up, something that comes from a place and directive that is deeper.

Look in your back yard, literally. Something at least as bad as Auschwitz is happening right now, literally, in that back yard.

[URIKORN]

Auschwitz is wherever Evil is
Whether Satans's hands are Jewish, German, Arab or Reptelian
Mine or yours

[Rocky_Shorz]

I have never found anyone describing where this is coming from, we had a star swallowed by a black hole years ago, directing a jet directly at our planet, could this somehow be the source?

or is it from the central sun?

is it from passing through the plain separating north and south?

or is it Nibiru causing a ripple as it is passing...

I just don't know...

[WhiteFeather]

Enjoyed this interview. Thank you,for posting.

[URIKORN]

Enjoyed this interview. Thank you,for posting.


The Sufis have a somewhat similar saying to the one you bring:

"Although I Live On This World, I Choose Not To Live In It"
<:~W.F.~:>

and that is: Be in the world not of the world

The last one may go even deeper than the first one, as I understand it

[URIKORN]

Imagine that basically all that Corey Goode is saying is real and true.
That he indeed meets with these higher beings.
That he is indeed transported via the Orbs.
That indeed they quarentined the solar system.
That indeed he mediates for the Blue Avians in various conferences.
That indeed the basic scenario that he says is quite likely to happen will happen,
with total disclosure via the good preparation of the SSP Aliance (the good guys),
that new (old/hidden) technology will pour in, the Cabal/Mafia system crumbling,
etc...

And the Blue Avians will disappear.
Gone.
Mission accomplished.
Nothing to see, nothing to touch.
Only verbal testimonies of some individuals.

They may sink into our future mythology, with some, believing them to be as
real as us, maybe even more so, with others concentrating on more concrete
reality

[OMG]

I like David and Corey's message. Who knows if it is accurate. Time will tell.

Really the MAIN question I have that David attempts to address but doesn't is this...

If the good aliens follow a prime directive of non-interference BUT are NOW stopping all of the current attempts by the evil aliens, or their minions the cabal or whomever, to do bad so we humans can do things ourselves once again without the evil aliens influence, then what about addressing how they are going to PURGE and RECTIFY the centuries of bad influence from the evil aliens/cabal and ALL of the negative ramifications that have occurred up to our current age?

And some other considerations...

I also don't understand how the evil beings could have taken control for so long without the positive beings knowing about them and putting a stop to it originally?

Not to mention how these centuries of evil intervention and control affect the notion of a ALL powerful, Knowing and Loving GOD. If GOD knew about this from the very beginning and allowed it then WHY, and why intervene NOW?

You hear that "freewill" can't be experienced without dichotomy. But who decides that evil's exclusive reign/dominance for centuries falls into the domain of verifying "freewill choice"? And where's the BALANCE unless good is allowed equal dominance for the same period of time. Yet who determines that "balance" is measured through evil or good's dominance for centuries and measured by the masses instead of from each second to second, individual to individual, etc?

:)

[URIKORN]

to OMG :

Some of the questions you raise float in my mind too, and I don't censure questions floating in my mind.
I have some ideas that i hope to present later on

[Bill Ryan]

(quoting Michael Salla)

My guess is that the Examiner did not want this material appearing and getting any additional media exposure. M.S.


When forming hypotheses to account for the removal of this kind of material from Examiner.com, another might be that someone in an executive capacity thought it was fantastical nonsense, bringing The Examiner into disrepute.

[Sierra]

I don't censure questions floating in my mind.


Oh goody. I have some questions starting with:

I survived Auschwitz Nothing of my humanity harmed

Well how, if you were born in 1951?

Such dramatic posturing, lol.

If you are indulging in poetic license not literality, then damn, it is more accurate to say lots of humanity was harmed by the Auschwitz mindset infection, and consequent persecution of the Palestinian natives by Israel.

Corey beat the crap out of Avalon on a daily basis for five months nonstop. This is not normal behavior, for a healthy human being. Crazy, maybe, Milab maybe, a hater, hating maybe. Not normal though. Not normal either that you joined *this* forum that Corey plainly loathes. Did you join Avalon to push Corey's drama? Why not instead, join a forum that approves of the Corey pie in the sky (still)?

High spiritual entities, using a contact like Corey beggars belief. Stops me right in my tracks, because this does not compute. Frequency precludes such a relationship. If the relationship is real, then the blue avians are not high spiritual entities, and Corey is being used to push distraction, disinfo, and a hidden agenda.

It sort of leads me to the conclusion (again), that you wish to distract us (again), from the evidence the Blue Avian program is a mind control program to get Milab runaways recaptured by their "owners", as was Corey's self admitted agenda while here on Avalon.

Not one word have you spoken addresses the Milab programming elephant in the living room, despite the multiple links to the subject matter that have been posted. I'd be more interested in what you have to say if you had taken a look. That you don't, makes you sound like a paid shill. Just saying, your particular, and specific censor is showing...

So, how come don't you share what it is like to live in Israel? You say:

Auschwitz is wherever Evil is Whether Satans's hands are Jewish, German, Arab or Reptelian Mine or yours

What a complete copout.

I think most Avalonians would be far more interested in reports from someone with their boots on the ground in Israel, whom one assumes has served in the military, who knows what goes down between the Israeli military and those pesky Palestinians koff koff...


and I oppose evil

Auschwitz is past, the Knesset is now. That there, right there, is a body of evil you could impact directly. You don't actually think Blue Avians are going to fix the mess in Israel. Do you? How will that go down? Will the Blue Avians give succor to the Palestinians? Will they roll back the holy_roller_I_have_the_spiritual_right land grabs, the bombing, the torture, the endless killing, blockade of food for the starving?

When I see that happen, I'll eat Bill's hat and say, "Yay for the Blue Avian saviors!"

Maybe nothing of your humanity was harmed as you say, but that is a rather narrow service_to_self perspective, though?


Imagine that basically all that Corey Goode is saying is real and true.
That he indeed meets with these higher beings.
That he is indeed transported via the Orbs.
That indeed they quarentined the solar system.
That indeed he mediates for the Blue Avians in various conferences.
That indeed the basic scenario that he says is quite likely to happen will happen,
with total disclosure via the good preparation of the SSP Aliance (the good guys)...

Nope, just can't do it... <snicker>

Occam's razor keeps getting in my way.

[URIKORN]

A short answer to Sierra and like minded people:

You see an Israeli flag and you make assumptions. Automatically. Like a machine activated by the push of a button.
You have no idea who I am and what my real actions in life are.
You feel you hold a high moral ground while in reality you sound bitter to me.
It is below my honour to justify myself to the likes of you, as long as you talk to me in such a fashion.
If you care to investigate seek a Hebrew literary friend and ask him to read posts in my blog in Hebrew,
in which I initiated private disclosure of my own, before Avalon existed, and in which I speak my mind to my fellow citizens.

[gripreaper]

A short answer to Sierra and like minded people:

You see an Israeli flag and you make assumptions. Automatically. Like a machine activated by the push of a button.
You have no idea who I am and what my real actions in life are.
You feel you hold a high moral ground while in reality you sound bitter to me.
It is below my honour to justify myself to the likes of you, as long as you talk to me in such a fashion.
If you care to investigate seek a Hebrew literary friend and ask him to read posts in my blog in Hebrew,
in which I initiated private disclosure of my own, before Avalon existed, and in which I speak my mind to my fellow citizens.

Why don't you just come right out with it and say it, whatever it is you are eluding to. I'm not interested in any posturing, passive aggressive innuendo's, or wild goose chases. Just be straight.

[URIKORN]

A nice story I have read in one of Idries Shah's books:

A wandering dervish, as he was setting camp for his night vigil
built up a big fire.
He was sitting, some distance away by a very small fire which
supplied him with just enough light to read in a scroll.
A passer by, seeing the scene, asked him about the big fire.
"This is for the moquitoes" the dervish answered.

[URIKORN]

If the good aliens follow a prime directive of non-interference BUT are NOW stopping all of the current attempts by the evil aliens, or their minions the cabal or whomever, to do bad so we humans can do things ourselves once again without the evil aliens influence, then what about addressing how they are going to PURGE and RECTIFY the centuries of bad influence from the evil aliens/cabal and ALL of the negative ramifications that have occurred up to our current age?[/B]



:)



My attempt at response:

My attempt at making some plausible order in my private mind.
I tend to think in parallel lines, not trying to impose a complete logical
closing of a complete order, It is ok by me, for me, to keep much of
the picture loose. These are not issues which are in our palms to
handle.
We do not have any definite knowledge on hardly anything in these
matters, be it the Soul, the Divine, higher dimensions, ET civilizations.
What we have, now more than in a long time passed, is the freedom to let our private and collective mind and consciousness to feel free to investigate all
these matters.
And this is fine. Very fine to my taste. (For more than 40 years I live
the life of a loner in my hunger to investigate and taste these various
Issues. My immediate society is quite numb to it.).
This was a little bit about the spirit of the way I investigate.


My assumptions about some "parallel" lines that somehow work together:

Line 1 – The Higher assists the Lower
Line 2 – The Lower aspires to the Higher
Line 3 – A geomotry teacher teaches the basics, helps solving some problems. Then the students are expected to solve problems by themselves, building up a capacity inside them.
Line 4 – A Sufi teacher, asked to answer some question answerd: Do you
want me to eat your orange ?
Line 5 – We have to make our best, if we are the type of people believing
in Good, regardless of our specific fate in life. It is unnegotiable.
Line 6 - Exalted Truth imposes upon man pain and suffering so that, in the end, he will discover his inner core. (my words for something Jalaludin Rumi said)

As far as I am concerned: Kill me or brutalize me a thousand lives, my belief
in Good is unshakeable.
It is not in my nature to complain to Good/Divine:

And a general ever proper reminder:
He knows not how to know who knows not how to not know

We investigate a field which is broad, deep, rich, expanding, maybe, infinitely,
and we are total novices in it, Let us adopt a good measure of humility, and
humor as we make our first steps.


About longing, suffering, purgatory and change, take this story:

A lover came to his beloved's closed door and knocked.
"Who is it ?" a voice asked him.
"It is I, your Lover."
The door stayed closed and he had to go away with a cast down head.
He came to her door many times over scores of years, with always the same
scenario playing, until time and accumulated positive action changed him to
the point that when he knocked on the door that time, and the voice asked
him:
"Who is it ?"
He answered:
"It is you" and the door opened

[araucaria]

A short answer to Sierra and like minded people:

You see an Israeli flag and you make assumptions. Automatically. Like a machine activated by the push of a button.
If this were remotely true, then you would need to explain why and how Limor Wolf, who is a compatriot of yours, is held in such high standing here. The kneejerk reaction is not ours: we go to great lengths to slow down and control our reactions in order to explore and understand them. The push-button machine is your own, this being typical of the way victims in general and one or two Israelis in particular behave, with the assumption that people make assumptions. Here at least we do not; check out the countless posts on victimhood.

Another assumption that is often made but that we do not make is that ultimate notions like ‘Hitler’ or ‘Auschwitz’ are as extreme as they are made out to be, and that anyone who says otherwise is somehow condoning those events. They are not, and we are not. Such notions create a barrier hiding a no-go area of modern evil that is inevitably shrouded in secrecy because by definition we have no words to describe this taboo area that has been created. The idea that Hitler is the ultimate evil dictator is a useful shield for those doing still worse; the idea that Auschwitz is the ultimate evil that can be perpetrated by such an evil dictator is a useful shield for those doing still worse.

Your resorting to this tactic may or may not be deliberate. Either way, it shows that you are lagging behind, and therefore impeding the discussion we are having on this forum, which is seeking to quantify this dark area. This has to be done to bring it into the field of reality, in order to circumscribe it and deal with it, because otherwise there are no limits to its extent in the collective imagination. It may not be as bad as we thought, but until we find out we must expect the worst. A cancer surgeon needs to explore all the way to healthy tissue in order to eradicate the cancerous cells once and for all. If he stops short, his patient is the medical equivalent of an Auschwitz survivor – or, if I may change disasters, the equivalent of one of those Japanese who survived Hiroshima but had the misfortune to find themselves at Nagasaki a week later.

As the ultimate atrocity, Hiroshima lasted for only a week. What we have to evaluate is the state of the Auschwitz disease after seventy plus years of inadequate treatment. So please stop the flag waving: it is totally insubstantial and inappropriate.

[URIKORN]

QUOTE:

Another assumption that is often made but that we do not make is that ultimate notions like ‘Hitler’ or ‘Auschwitz’ are as extreme as they are made out to be, and that anyone who says otherwise is somehow condoning those events. They are not, and we are not.

END-QUOTE

Neither am I doing this mistake.
‘Hitler’ or ‘Auschwitz’ were for me, from the start, an exression of evil, having
nothing in essence to do with the jews in particular.
This I understood, felt and poroclaimed 40 years ago in arguements with my parents.
For me it is no more than a metaphore for evil.

[araucaria]

For me it is no more than a metaphore for evil.
If you are saying that Auschwitz is no more than a metaphor for evil, then let me state unequivocally that that is not at all what I am saying.

[URIKORN]

For me it is no more than a metaphore for evil.
If you are saying that Auschwitz is no more than a metaphor for evil, then let me state unequivocally that that is not at all what I am saying.


You may feel that you desrve a response to any chalange you pose.
Well, I don't share your feeling.

[Sierra]

A short answer to Sierra and like minded people:

You see an Israeli flag and you make assumptions. Automatically. Like a machine activated by the push of a button.
You have no idea who I am and what my real actions in life are.
You feel you hold a high moral ground while in reality you sound bitter to me.
It is below my honour to justify myself to the likes of you, as long as you talk to me in such a fashion.
If you care to investigate seek a Hebrew literary friend and ask him to read posts in my blog in Hebrew,
in which I initiated private disclosure of my own, before Avalon existed, and in which I speak my mind to my fellow citizens.

Why don't you just come right out with it and say it, whatever it is you are eluding to. I'm not interested in any posturing, passive aggressive innuendo's, or wild goose chases. Just be straight.

Heh. Guess not.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
urikorn would amaze us
If wishes came true

[araucaria]

For me it is no more than a metaphore for evil.
If you are saying that Auschwitz is no more than a metaphor for evil, then let me state unequivocally that that is not at all what I am saying.
You may feel that you desrve a response to any chalange you pose.
Well, I don't share your feeling.
No challenge posed, no response expected.

Just making my own position perfectly clear, i.e. distinct from yours, realities versus metaphors. That's all I have to say. Please don't respond.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Well he has brought up an interesting thought on space manufacturing...

How many flights have just disappeared, 911 4 plane loads of people, Malaysian air with an advanced miniaturization never seen before...

Would you kill these brilliantly needed minds...

Prison them on earth risking they might escape from an underground facility?

Or would you knock them out toss them on a plane that in 30 minutes would be pulling up to a Mars space camp...

There is no doubt, Rothschild has the money to do it...

What if Mars attacked us with ET ships dropping miniaturized robots with nuclear powered lazer weapons...

Would you remember what we all discussed... And go hmmmm...

Seriously if there are good ETs out there, why if they want to help us, would they allow space work prisons?

Labor camps that makes Hitlers look like summer camps...

Have we through this bizarre method learned about one of the shadow governments secret plans and operations?

Putin picked a nut to MKultra to pass hidden knowledge that only a few of us have been watching for?

Everyone else would toss it out as lunacy?

Thousands of passengers from "crashed" airlines, suddenly wake up looking at earth from Mars...

The one way ticket to hell as the whip slashes across their back...

[Harley]

In-case you missed it, my comment in the Dead NASA scientists (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83272-Dead-NASA-scientists&p=974075&viewfull=1#post974075) Thread:


Interesting selection of highly specialized career fields listed there on Quayle's page, don't you think?

One might pray "Rest In Peace" for them, but unfortunately some of them may not be able to.

[URIKORN]

A short answer to Sierra and like minded people:

You see an Israeli flag and you make assumptions. Automatically. Like a machine activated by the push of a button.
You have no idea who I am and what my real actions in life are.
You feel you hold a high moral ground while in reality you sound bitter to me.
It is below my honour to justify myself to the likes of you, as long as you talk to me in such a fashion.
If you care to investigate seek a Hebrew literary friend and ask him to read posts in my blog in Hebrew,
in which I initiated private disclosure of my own, before Avalon existed, and in which I speak my mind to my fellow citizens.

Why don't you just come right out with it and say it, whatever it is you are eluding to. I'm not interested in any posturing, passive aggressive innuendo's, or wild goose chases. Just be straight.

Heh. Guess not.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
urikorn would amaze us
If wishes came true


Nicely put

I am what I am
For good and for bad
I have no two faces
What you see is what you get

Spare me a dime
Spare me some time
Relinquish habitual suspicion
And breath deep inside

[URIKORN]

David Wilcock and Corey Goode June 28th OYM Radio Transcript and Notes: ET Alliance, Consciousness Evolution, Disclosure Event, Energetic Ascension, Cabal Take-down & More

Monday, June 29, 2015

http://sitsshow.blogspot.co.il/2015/06/david-wilcock-and-corey-goode-june-28th.html

This is a loose transcription of an interview with Corey Goode and David Wilcock by Open Your mind Radio on June 28th 2015.

[URIKORN]

Fron Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BlueAvians


SIMON PARKES - MANTIS

Q: Simon Parkes has his own intel from his connections with Mantis ETs. I don't know what part they are playing with the SSPs. The mantis ETs were creating hybrids in case there was a rapid depopulation of the human race. What do you know about them?

Corey: When I met the Draco Federation Alliance there were Mantids and Insectoids present along with the "Committee of 200". I do not think they have turned "Positive" as they have pretended to have done to some people... Be very careful with certain info coming from "Former Illuminati" members or those in contact with beings that are apart of the Draco Alliance... Discern, Discern, Discern... Corey/GoodETxSG


This is the second time I read the reservations Corey has regarding Simon Parkes.
I also remember reading, or hearing, a woman on the web (don't recall her name)whom I felt I'd rather listen to who recommended some caution regarding Simon Parkes.
In general I like to have contending arguements in my mind.
Simon, in his turn, in 2 places that I tackled, spoke about David Wilcock being weak.
(To be honest, I sense a weakness in David, but this does not preclude his strengths. I look at him with a good eye.)




Interestingly enogh, in his last Newsletter (from today) Simon wrires this:


Simon Parkes Newsletter - July 2015

In June of this year the Lucifer telescope managed and run directly by the Vatican re-established contact with a large foreign body that recently entered our solar system. This is the second such object to be detected this year and is a source of great excitement/worry for Vatican officials, because at this stage they do not know the intent of this object. The occupants of the previous object turned out to be of a distinctly blue hue and were more favourable to humanity than the Vatican was prepared for.
I know there has been much speculation that a comet or such like will strike the earth in September – this is not my understanding. Far more likely will be some form of artificial emergency followed by an orchestrated ‘rebellion’ in one of the American states. With Jade Helm still fresh in our minds and the Texas Governor’s public statement about free will ringing in our ears we watch this with interest. While one Governor speaks for the people another Governor speaks against the people. Recently a State Governor has declared that there are too many people in his state and the population needs to be reduced. The NWO old gender seems to be back on the table.

http://us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=4a8bbd95efd926ee0efeb4a3b&id=6005580698&e=





Having my core spiritual education, or rather human, soaked in Sufi lore I will cite here the 15'th councel of Bahaudin Naqshband (a love at first sight) :

From "Counsels of Bahaudin"

FIFTEENTH Banish doubt you cannot. Doubt goes when doubt and belief as you have been taught them go. If you forsake a path, it is because you were hoping for conviction from it. You seek conviction, not self-knowledge.

You can see all his counsels in post 5 in the following thread:

The simplest and most sincere self - Bahaudin Naqshband

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82382-The-simplest-and-most-sincere-self-Bahaudin-Naqshband

[Rocky_Shorz]

sept 28th is the 4th and final Blood full moon of the Tetrad for 2000 years...

Jewish Engineered history shows again and again they are creating events on these days...

With all the whispers of events coming in Sept, this is a date to watch...

[URIKORN]

Corey Goode, as well as Randy Cramer tell us that at the end of
their service in one of the SSP programs, each in his own, they
were Age Regressed.
This notion is the most difficult for me to accept.
I believe that this is what was told to them, and I believe that both
accept that this is what happened.
I guess that my mind, in its own dark regions was thinking about it.
Is it real ?
Is such a reality possible ?
And even if it is possible, in theory, is it likely that the SSP scientists
possess such knowledge ?

I was inspired with the following idea which explains away Age Regression
as a reality.
Now, I do not feel that I can check it thoroughly for the next 2 good reasons:
- I did not experience what Corey and Randy went through
- My intellectual power is not powerful enough.

I hope though, that if there is a basic truth to the idea that I propose,
more informed and wiser people will be able to make use of it.
Also, I will not be surprised if this idea was spoken about before. For
me it is new. It came from my inner skies.

The Idea:

There is Corey Goode.
There was a clone Corey Goode.
At year xxxx Corey Goode senior went to SSP missions.
Corey Goode junior (clone) replaced him in life on earth.
Both are active now, for 20 years, in parallel, probably linked in some ways.
In year xxxx + 20 Corey Goode senior comes back home.
The age regression is a fusion of memories of some kind.
Corey clone is moved aside.

This is the core idea.

[URIKORN]

01.07.2015

Corey: on the meetings "Gonzales" attended in my absence
Source / Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BlueAvians


I gave DW an abbreviated briefing on the meetings "Gonzales" attended in my absence. There are details on the Draco Federation Alliance meeting where the Committee of 200's "Chairmen" were in attendance.
One of whom is a VERY well-known policy maker and NWO figure who has established "Think Tanks" in the USA and I believe EU.
This included the Draco Royal Whites "Threat" and further Intel around their Agents working to cause some "False Flags" in the near future to build up "Loosh" for their cause.

I have been ordered to release the more disturbing information to everyone but am trying to balance it in a way that will not build anxiety/fear and aid the enemy is procuring Loosh.
Some of this Intel involved some of the Extra-Dimensional Overlords that the Draco apparently report to and who are also responsible for the ET/ED AI problem that has plagued multiple galaxies in our Space/Time/Reality.

(Interesting Article on AI)
http://www.zengardner.com/threat-artificial-intelligence-n…/

There was also a more positive meeting with Raw-Tear-Eir and the Human Like "ET Super Federation" (Of many Federations, Confederations, Councils etc...). This was an interesting meeting and it was nice to hear some positive information and outcomes after the threats from the desperate Draco Federation Alliance.

I will be releasing that update after I complete the Q&A's for Michael Salla for his new article regarding the Mars Colony Inspection.
I am attempting to find a way to release the info from Gonzales recent meetings in a way that is not reeking off "Fear Porn". However some of the information will be a little uncomfortable.

Do know that there are some False Flag Financial and Terrorist plans in the works by the Secret Earth Governments and their Syndicates. Just know that any things that may slip through the cracks is orchestrated by them and try not to feed into the Loosh they are trying to generate with your own Anxiety or Fear.

Thank you,
Corey/GoodETxSG

[Sierra]

Corey admits that his mind and memory have been tampered with by the Milab programs.

Urikorn, you lack discrimination.

I guess we're still pushing Corey on the forum Corey trashed for five months on a daily basis. Somehow, it doesn't compute that one so low in evolution or so mind controlled (my pick) would be the one those called "high spiritual beings" would use as a contact. I wouldn't trust anyone or anything using that sort of contact. Seriously, why would anyone with a bean of sense do so?

Corey has no choice. Corey is not a good man, Corey is not an officer or a gentleman. Corey is out to gather Milabs back under the control of those who created them. Corey takes part in events of evil towards others, against his own will, I am utterly certain.

Consider what happens to those Milabs captured once more. You think a slap on the hand? You think oh pushing Corey does no harm? No damage? What does that say about one who believes a fairy story is harmless or real? What is the distraction of pie in the sky, and what is the purpose?

So... Let's examine the mind control aspect of the Bluebird, and Blue Avian programs, but let's start at the beginning where multiple pronged attacks were initiated against the citizens of the United States, led by the Nazi scientists brought over by the United States Paperclip Program, without the permission or knowledge of the legitimate government, the beginning of the black ops governments.

This post will show the mind set of the institutions that created the mind control programs. Bolds are mine.

From:
http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg
https://deusnexus.wordpress.com/2015/06/23/project-blue-bird/



Mind control victims are:

Created deliberately
A new identity is implanted
Amnesia barriers are created
Used in simulated or actual operations


The participation of psychiatrists and medical schools in mind control research was not a matter of a few scattered doctors pursuing questionable lines of investigation. Rather, the mind control experimentation was systematic, organized, and involved many leading psychiatrists and medical schools. The mind control experiments were interwoven with radiation experiments, and research on chemical and biological weapons. They were funded by the CIA, Army, Navy, Air Force, and by other agencies including the Public Health Service and the Scottish Rite Foundation.

The psychiatrists, psychologists, neurosurgeons, and other contractors conducting the work were imbedded in a broad network of doctors. Much of the research was published in medical journals. The climate was permissive, supportive, and approving of mind control experimentation.

Some background that illuminates the medical attitudes of the time these programs were started after WWII. The medical industry that participated in this horrific travesty (and the military LSD travesty, the radiation experiments on children travesty, the disease spray over SF travesty etc.) had no problem performing mind control experiments on the general population:



...The Tuskeegee Syphilis Study helps us understand how mind control experimentation was not only tolerated by medical professionals, but published in peer-reviewed literature. The Study, started in Alabama in 1932, was run by the Public Health Service. 399 illiterate, poor rural black men with syphilis were recruited as subjects, along with 201 controls without syphilis. The purpose of the Study was to make sure the 399 men never got treatment. The subjects and their families weren't told they had syphilis and didn't know it was treatable. They were told that they had bad blood.

The cure for syphilis, penicillin, was introduced in the early 1940's. It was withheld from the Tuskeegee men for 30 years. The published results of the Study showed the men with untreated syphilis were sicker and died younger than controls. How many women were infected with syphilis because these men were deliberately not treated? How many children were born with syphilis because of the Study?

The Tuskeegee Syphilis Study was eventually shut down in 1972 because of the efforts of an investigative journalist. There is no evidence to suggest that the government or the medical progression had any intention of closing the study as of 1972. People and organizations that knew about the Study included the Surgeon General, the American Heart Association, and the Center for Disease Control. Throughout its 40-year course, the Tuskeegee Study was praised and received various honors.

Okay. That is who we are dealing with today, still doing unethical biological experiments. These are the public institutions that began and maintain the mind control programs to this day. These people are not our friends. These people are using Corey to get back their possessions, their tools, their tax paid for creations.


The Tuskeegee Study establishes that a large network of doctors and organization were willing to participate in, fund, and condone grossly unethical medical experimentation into the 1970's. The Study proves that considerable external pressure is often required before the medical profession takes the necessary action to terminate such experimentation.

Corey admits that his mind and memory have been tampered with by the Milab programs.

The Ruiner sensibly points out:
Programs, such as Monarch, are insidious and diabolical, and I suggest that readers educate themselves about such horrors before they fall down someone else’s rabbit hole without a flash light. We all wish to wake up and see a better world, but these are still dangerous times to trust whole-heartedly without discernment. There is still so much institutionalized deceit in the world.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is most likely a duck.

Let's not continue to muddy the waters with fairy tales. How destructive and irresponsible is that?

Pitiful Corey has the excuse he is mind controlled.

What is yours Urikorn? Are you so desperate for a fairy tale ending, you will push and collaborate, condone and perpetuate the evil, institutions practice on human beings without informed consent?

What does this say about you? Either you lack discrimination...

Or you don't. I hope for your sake, you are blind, and ignorant at this point in time, but willing to examine the evidence. " ... You seek conviction, not knowledge" as you say lol.

Corey admits that his mind and memory have been tampered with by the Milab programs.

Next, the radiation experiments. To be continued...

[URIKORN]

The Thought Police is here again.
I wonder how many Avalon members are intimidated by this aggression.

Corey may be some kind of a "mind cotrolled product". Maybe.
But if we deal with maybe's, you may be the sort of person who,
in service of a ruling class, in Soviet Russia for example,
"proved" that a dissident is mentally ill and put him in a psychiatric ward,
"for his own good"
Why do i smell that I may not be far wrong ?

I am pushing what I am attracted to.
It is not that I know that Corey's story is true.
But there is in it, to me, a basic coherence, a real spreading of the picture
to a size large enough to contain all the pieces of the puzzel.

This is the true fashion in which any field of inquiery is pursued.
Let go.

Treat his story as a theory. Many theories fall by the way side as time
proceeds.
It is my right to pursue it, espacially as I am doing it from a good place in
my heart.
And it is your human duty to respect this right of mine.
It is that simple.
For lovers of Truth and of Humanity, that is.

[Sierra]

The Thought Police is here again.

Just my thoughts. :)

[A Voice from the Mountains]

I don't think Sierra is trying to be the thought police, Urikorn. Maybe you are new to following individuals like David Wilcock and Corey Goode, but after so many years of these kinds of characters, anyone would become very jaded with them.

I was recently reviewing an old thread here about past predictions Wilcock had made that didn't come to pass. He was saying that Saddam Hussein was going to be the anti-christ discussed in Christian apocalyptic literature, that the year 2000 was going to be "the ascension," whatever that was, and that we should prepare for how awesome it would be. He predicted that Obama was going to publicly disclose ET presence in 2010, with a 2-hour television appearance during prime time. These are just a few things off the top of my head. There was also the Neil Keenan affair which I am not very familiar with myself, but I understand that through that, Wilcock helped to bankrupt at least one person who bought into it.

As far as Corey goes, the face he presents to the public and the one he demonstrates in private are often two completely different faces, though his "private face" has emerged on the open forums before, which is why he was banned here. If he really was in any kind of covert military program it was probably related to Project Bluebird, which is to say he was probably programmed with multiple personalities and even to "go public" just to infiltrate alternative communities and cause chaos. That would be my best guess. I have the same feeling about people such as Gordon Duff and Alex Jones, even if they are not programmed, because all they are doing is setting up the alternative community for embarrassment.

I have come to be extra careful about listening to rumors when they are going around about people as well, from dealing indirectly with Corey. There were some pretty nasty rumors going around about another person claiming contact with ET beings, a certain councilor, and I have since learned for a fact that the nastiest of these rumors were started by Corey Goode himself through private channels, and I now believe that they were totally baseless. He had nothing good to say about this person until said person mentioned Blue Avians at some point, and then Corey was very proud of himself and was bragging about the confirmation on his blog. Proud of the endorsement of someone who he had just been spreading terrible rumors about. He also spread rumors about me personally on another forum that you are familiar with, Urikorn, which I know for a fact were baseless, and frankly were ridiculous. He spreads rumors about people and starts drama in private channels because he sows discord, and he targets people who criticize him first. Sowing discord within the alternative community is something that would interest certain parties, I should mention.

It's just a matter of time before this whole thing blows up once again in DW's face. And he will just stop mentioning Corey, remove related material from his site and you'll never hear it again from him. That's been David's modus operandi for over 15 years now.

[URIKORN]

So let those who are wise already wait patiently.
Just as you survived the shuttering of an illusion so would I.
Each has to learn his own lessons, or, at least, some of them.
Make your points politely, with respect.
I srudy various subjects, intensively, for 42 years now. I am not a complete idiot.
Allow me to make my own mistakes, if indeed they are

In the meantime I want to remind the reader who has no partucular issue
in this verbal spurring that I am not issue, and recall his attention to the
actual material Corey offers us. Unless, ofcourse, it is the sort of reader
who is drawn to squirmishes, not to possible words of wisdom.

[Omni]

UNIKORN, what do you have to say about this post?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80400-Blue-Avians&p=950870&viewfull=1#post950870

Corey states he has no memories of being a MILAB. Then on his blog he states they were not recovered memories. At first I thought Corey was a mind controlled asset of the military industrial complex, now I see it as quite possible he is a complicit disinformation agent.

Corey attacked me, maybe you do not know that unikorn. I was told telepathically that there would be a reaction to publishing so much sensitive info on my blog. Not long after Corey comes out saying I'm an AI prophet, and turned a lot of avalonians against me.

You are supporting a psy op. In the coming years when these blue avians have done nothing, it will become more evident. But you will have probably moved onto the next unverifiable psy op by then, and ignored the history lesson of the Blue Avian psy op.

[Flash]

Sierra

why not allow Unikorn to do his postings, alone, with no members comments almost, since there is not flexibilities in commenting or argumenting about Corey's input. So he will be contempt about giving the information and those who want it can get it and get deluded if others think it is what is happening.

This will be very similar to Chris Thomas thread. As Turiya reject vehemently and sometimes nastily any comment that could be negative or only argumentative about Chris Thomas, his thread ended up being an information thread about Chris when he does new interviews etc. He gave some comparisons that were worthwhile as well. And anytime a new poster comes in to debate about Chris thomas, his head is bitten off and he withdraw.

The same thing will happen with this thread, I think, if we let it go.

But hey, I am not a moderator and do not have the back office stories, so up to you the good team.

[URIKORN]

UNIKORN, what do you have to say about this post?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80400-Blue-Avians&p=950870&viewfull=1#post950870

Corey states he has no memories of being a MILAB. Then on his blog he states they were not recovered memories. At first I thought Corey was a mind controlled asset of the military industrial complex, now I see it as quite possible he is a complicit disinformation agent.

Corey attacked me, maybe you do not know that unikorn. I was told telepathically that there would be a reaction to publishing so much sensitive info on my blog. Not long after Corey comes out saying I'm an AI prophet, and turned a lot of avalonians against me.

You are supporting a psy op. In the coming years when these blue avians have done nothing, it will become more evident. But you will have probably moved onto the next unverifiable psy op by then, and ignored the history lesson of the Blue Avian psy op.


If I am supporting a psy op, than i am doing it without being aware of the fact.
I only have my specific starting point.
You may be absolutely right, partly right or totally wrong.
I do not have the time nor the inclination to start and investigate every assertion and rationale.
I follow my heart (as Don Juan adviced Castaneda) and learn as I go along.
I have courage, an opened mind, and a long life experience of my weaknesses.
Let go.

[Hervé]

[...]
... I have since learned for a fact that the nastiest of these rumors were started by Corey Goode himself through private channels, and I now believe that they were totally baseless....
[...]


Wow!

Thanks for the confirmation!

[Omni]

UNIKORN, what do you have to say about this post?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80400-Blue-Avians&p=950870&viewfull=1#post950870

Corey states he has no memories of being a MILAB. Then on his blog he states they were not recovered memories. At first I thought Corey was a mind controlled asset of the military industrial complex, now I see it as quite possible he is a complicit disinformation agent.

Corey attacked me, maybe you do not know that unikorn. I was told telepathically that there would be a reaction to publishing so much sensitive info on my blog. Not long after Corey comes out saying I'm an AI prophet, and turned a lot of avalonians against me.

You are supporting a psy op. In the coming years when these blue avians have done nothing, it will become more evident. But you will have probably moved onto the next unverifiable psy op by then, and ignored the history lesson of the Blue Avian psy op.


If I am supporting a psy op, than i am doing it without being aware of the fact.
I only have my specific starting point.
You may be absolutely right, partly right or totally wrong.
I do not have the time nor the inclination to start and investigate every assertion and rationale.
I follow my heart (as Don Juan adviced Castaneda) and learn as I go along.
I have courage, an opened mind, and a long life experience of my weaknesses.
Let go.
In other words you will ignore the evidence Corey is lying.

Following the heart is fine, but not when it defies sound logic. You refuse to read the post I linked?

Basically you are saying you read something and deny investigating if it is true before you start promoting it.

In the post I linked there is proof Corey is deceptive... Take it or leave it. Maybe you just want to see what you would like to...

[URIKORN]

[...]
... I have since learned for a fact that the nastiest of these rumors were started by Corey Goode himself through private channels, and I now believe that they were totally baseless....
[...]


Wow!

Thanks for the confirmation!




Are you aware that good manipulators know fair well how to split people's friendships.
Is it possible, in theory, that the rumors Corey spread, were spread by others, in
such a fashion that you honestly believe that he did it ?
Just a possibility to consider.

[Omni]

[...]
... I have since learned for a fact that the nastiest of these rumors were started by Corey Goode himself through private channels, and I now believe that they were totally baseless....
[...]


Wow!

Thanks for the confirmation!




Are you aware that good manipulators know fair well how to split people's friendships.
Is it possible, in theory, that the rumors Corey spread, were spread by others, in
such a fashion that you honestly believe that he did it ?
Just a possibility to consider.

Corey lied about me directly. So I know he lies, exaggerates, embellishes, etc. You are obviously programmed by the psy op, perhaps even mind controlled yourself, since they do mind control some people to support their psy ops... You are obviously seeing what you would like to see with everything related. And ignoring anything that shows your beliefs as wrong. You refuse to look at new information about Corey... Not sure what else to say other than enjoy the psy op. Hopefully the false hope it brings, will bring you solace...

[URIKORN]

O Tight people
O Anxious ones
Don't be so imaginative
I am only a simple man

And because I am simple, and becoming simpler every day, it is not
easy to manipulate me, to intimidate me, to confuse me.
I use the conscious art of knowing when I don't know.
I use the conscious art of stopping all thoughts.
I worked hard, with intent, to stop falling prey to the
various forces that belittle man.
I reached the land of simplicity, and in this land I grow now.
I belong to no group, I have no master to obey.
Just the call of the heart.
Is it not what you all are talking about all the time ?

[Hervé]

[...]
... I have since learned for a fact that the nastiest of these rumors were started by Corey Goode himself through private channels, and I now believe that they were totally baseless....
[...]


Wow!

Thanks for the confirmation!





Are you aware that good manipulators know fair well how to split people's friendships.
Is it possible, in theory, that the rumors Corey spread, were spread by others, in
such a fashion that you honestly believe that he did it ?
Just a possibility to consider.

What does the word "confirmation" mean to you?

[Flash]

O Tight people
O Anxious ones
Don't be so imaginative
I am only a simple man

If simple, then why does it seem to be arrogant?

we are not all anxious
we are not all tight (on the contrary)
we are not all with unbriddle imagination

You know, when someone write something about others, or say something at others about who they supposedly are, I have taken the habit of listening with wide ears and asking first to myself: is the writer/talker talking about himself, is he projecting?

Then I analyse to see which one has the caracteristics described. Usually they are owned by the writer/talker - with sometimes one exception or two.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Is it possible, in theory, that the rumors Corey spread, were spread by others, in
such a fashion that you honestly believe that he did it ?

In my case he also began spreading rumors about me, and in the process he was saying things that were obviously not true and it seemed to me that he was making them up off the top of his head. He was banned from this forum for starting drama, and I was still posting things here that he didn't like so he started trying to get drama started with me the exact same way I believe he did with the previous person.

As far as this other person, I was one of two people (that I know of) sent all of the conversation logs where the whole thing unfolded from the beginning to the end. I only read enough to get the basic point as it was a lot of stuff, but it was obvious enough what was going on. Corey knew that making the accusations himself would expose him to legal problems, and admitted as much, so he then got someone else to take the accusations to a third party known to be very unstable, and everything blew up from there. But he never said anything on the open forums about it. So without talking to the people who were tricked into all of this, it would seem Corey had nothing to do with any of it. It was only after all of it boiled over that it became apparent what had happened, especially after Corey was so proud of being acknowledged by the same person he had been saying the terrible things about in the first place. It just makes no sense in any other context but to have been meant as a fictitious and malicious attack on another person's character.

I don't like talking about this kind of "he said she said" stuff, but the reason I don't like talking about it is because rumors and gossip and all of this reflects a person's character. In this case it also reflects upon the character of someone claiming to be a whistleblower and ET contactee, who has nothing to back up his story but his own word. If all of this is an indicator of the character of the person who is asking us to trust him at his word, then obviously there is a problem to consider.

As Omni points out above, there are also inconsistencies in his story as far as how he remembers these things. There is just too many red flags here and it would be more worth our time to approach the secret space program (which I do believe exists) from other angles, of which there are many.

[URIKORN]

O Tight people
O Anxious ones
Don't be so imaginative
I am only a simple man

If simple, then why does it seem to be arrogant?

we are not all anxious
we are not all tight (on the contrary)
we are not all with unbriddle imagination

You know, when someone write something about others, or say something at others about who they supposedly are, I have taken the habit of listening with wide ears and asking first to myself: is the writer/talker talking about himself, is he projecting?

Then I analyse to see which one has the caracteristics described. Usually they are owned by the writer/talker - with sometimes one exception or two.



Yes I am arrogant. But with a good heart, glad with other people's success, easily acknowledging better man than me.
But in the face of X I stress my arrogant side. Why not.
Are you aware that the lot of you judge me and analyse me from the start ?
So maybe your analysis befits that lot.

There was something I added to the 4 lines:

And because I am simple, and becoming simpler every day, it is not
easy to manipulate me, to intimidate me, to confuse me.
I use the conscious art of knowing when I don't know.
I use the conscious art of stopping all thoughts.
I worked hard, with intent, to stop falling prey to the
various forces that belittle man.
I reached the land of simplicity, and in this land I grow now.
I belong to no group, I have no master to obey.
Just the call of the heart.
Is it not what you all are talking about all the time ?

[Sierra]

Sierra

why not allow Unikorn to do his postings, alone, with no members comments almost, since there is not flexibilities in commenting or argumenting about Corey's input. So he will be contempt about giving the information and those who want it can get it and get deluded if others think it is what is happening.

This will be very similar to Chris Thomas thread. As Turiya reject vehemently and sometimes nastily any comment that could be negative or only argumentative about Chris Thomas, his thread ended up being an information thread about Chris when he does new interviews etc. He gave some comparisons that were worthwhile as well. And anytime a new poster comes in to debate about Chris thomas, his head is bitten off and he withdraw.

The same thing will happen with this thread, I think, if we let it go.

But hey, I am not a moderator and do not have the back office stories, so up to you the good team.

Well, no. Chris Thomas is a channeler, in the channeling section, and members are informed.

Corey is a liar. He is programmed to say bad things.

The Buddhists say the source of harm in the world is ignorance. Alternate words could be delusion, illusion, Maya. And now we can add mind control to that list.

Another aspect of the situation is the damaging lies Corey spoke directly about Avalon members. In front of our eyes. Not just Bill. And not just Avalon. I see a pattern here.

Tell you what Flash, I'll preface my future posts on Corey, with "mod hat off", that this is my opinion alone, with only my own thoughts, with only my research, with attributions and source.

...

[URIKORN]

Look at the whole Corey Goode's story from another angle.
Suppose for a minute that his story is real and true in the basics.
Suppose that this is indeed a breakthrough in the level and depth of the unmasking of the HIDDEN HANDS.
How much effort do you think will the CABAL invest in order to smear him and block to the maximum
a clean entrance of such material into the minds of thinking men and women ?
This may include, for example, psychic attacks against him and others, focused infiltration, etc.
The whole shtick.
It is not impossible that Avalon, in general, fell prey to such an aggressive manipulative act.
If that is true then' too, it is likely that some of the members in Avalon are agents of the enemy.
(I guess this last suggestion is clear to you without my offering it.)

[A Voice from the Mountains]

It wouldn't be a "breakthrough in the level and depth of the unmasking of the hidden hands" just because Corey isn't the first person to say the type of things that he is. There are plenty of other researchers and whistleblowers that have been around for years already, they just aren't hiring agents and signing up for a TV series like Corey is. In other words they just aren't as prominent because they're not seeking public recognition and fame.

I take Randy Cramer more seriously. Still not sure what to make of everything he says but at least he seems to be a much more level-headed individual and not trying to always stay in the public eye, and not spreading rumors about people and getting extremely irate when people question his material.

If you go back to earlier generations you had people working with Howard Hughes and others talking about the secret space program of the 60's and 70's. So there is a lot, I mean a LOT of material already out there.

[Flash]

First, i never really paid attention to you before today.

So my views were not for a lot of others.

Second, if you just behave on the call of the heart, why don't you show it everywhere you go.

Arrogance and heart filled behavior seem to be contrary to each other in my views.

But arrongance can be spiritual arrogance as well, spiritual ego. Which is still ego based behavior.

I do not find you simple at all.

And i see full of denial of whom you truly are.

To many I in your last post. Wisdom seems absent.

i am retiring from this thread. Corey does not really interest me anyhow.




O Tight people
O Anxious ones
Don't be so imaginative
I am only a simple man

If simple, then why does it seem to be arrogant?

we are not all anxious
we are not all tight (on the contrary)
we are not all with unbriddle imagination

You know, when someone write something about others, or say something at others about who they supposedly are, I have taken the habit of listening with wide ears and asking first to myself: is the writer/talker talking about himself, is he projecting?

Then I analyse to see which one has the caracteristics described. Usually they are owned by the writer/talker - with sometimes one exception or two.



Yes I am arrogant. But with a good heart, glad with other people's success, easily acknowledging better man than me.
But in the face of X I stress my arrogant side. Why not.
Are you aware that the lot of you judge me and analyse me from the start ?
So maybe your analysis befits that lot.

There was something I added to the 4 lines:

And because I am simple, and becoming simpler every day, it is not
easy to manipulate me, to intimidate me, to confuse me.
I use the conscious art of knowing when I don't know.
I use the conscious art of stopping all thoughts.
I worked hard, with intent, to stop falling prey to the
various forces that belittle man.
I reached the land of simplicity, and in this land I grow now.
I belong to no group, I have no master to obey.
Just the call of the heart.
Is it not what you all are talking about all the time ?

[Sierra]

Look at the whole Corey Goode's story from another angle.
Suppose for a minute that his story is real and true in the basics.
Suppose that this is indeed a breakthrough in the level and depth of the unmasking of the HIDDEN HANDS.
How much effort do you think will the CABAL invest in order to smear him and block to the maximum
a clean entrance of such material into the minds of thinking men and women ?
This may include, for example, psychic attacks against him and others, focused infiltration, etc.
The whole shtick.
It is not impossible that Avalon, in general, fell prey to such an aggressive manipulative act.
If that is true then' too, it is likely that some of the members in Avalon are agents of the enemy.
(I guess this last suggestion is clear to you without my offering it.)


Whups... Update time:
Mod hat off. My .02. My apologies Flash.


Oh my. And you've been here how long to have read, thought, analyzed, and reached these conclusions about Avalon?

Why are you here then?

You really do sound like a troll, you know.

[URIKORN]

Since I know I am no troll (at least one fact I am sure about)
It leaves me with an option that you are one.
Or maybe you are that modern being called: thinking man

It stands to reason that Avalon should have its own quanta of trolls
to try and minimize its damages to the ruling class. Is it not ?

[ThePythonicCow]

How to prove that a forum is censored:


Join the forum.
Be a divisive jerk.
Get banned.
Use that as proof that the forum is censored.

[Omni]

Since I know I am no troll (at least one fact I am sure about)
It leaves me with an option that you are one.
Or maybe you are that modern being called: thinking man

It stands to reason that Avalon should have its own quanta of trolls
to try and minimize its damages to the ruling class. Is it not ?
Mostly they get banned pretty quick. The agenda is spotted pretty quick. Avalon isn't like other forums in this regard where the staff have to wait for trolls to break the rules. They just get shown the exit here.

If anyone is an agent of the agenda in this thread I think it is you. You are the one posting psy ops to Avalon, then ignoring all evidence people present to you pointing to an alternate conclusion.

I suggest you are in contact with corey, and he is happy you are promoting his material on Avalon. I would say it is above 50% chance you are in contact with corey. Above 10% chance you have an account on tot, and have an agenda on avalon. And so on.

Calling admin here a potential troll wont get you far.... The staff here have a good sniffer for trolls :shielddeflect:

[Flash]

yes, then go on TOT crying that you have been banned too

Have TOT members (some of whom I hold in great esteem by the way) hush hush you

With no discernenment about what happened in the other forum

And then feel like a savior rambo

Gosh, what a sick mind, i have no other words. I am sorry for some of the TOT good and balanced members.


How to prove that a forum is censored:


Join the forum.
Be a divisive jerk.
Get banned.
Use that as proof that the forum is censored.

[Sierra]

As Omni points out above, there are also inconsistencies in his story as far as how he remembers these things. There is just too many red flags here and it would be more worth our time to approach the secret space program (which I do believe exists) from other angles, of which there are many.

Hear, hear. :highfive::handshake::clapping:

Likewise. :)

I think that is a logical assumption.

[Bill Ryan]

I don't think Sierra is trying to be the thought police, Urikorn. Maybe you are new to following individuals like David Wilcock and Corey Goode, but after so many years of these kinds of characters, anyone would become very jaded with them.

I was recently reviewing an old thread here about past predictions Wilcock had made that didn't come to pass. He was saying that Saddam Hussein was going to be the anti-christ discussed in Christian apocalyptic literature, that the year 2000 was going to be "the ascension," whatever that was, and that we should prepare for how awesome it would be. He predicted that Obama was going to publicly disclose ET presence in 2010, with a 2-hour television appearance during prime time. These are just a few things off the top of my head. There was also the Neil Keenan affair which I am not very familiar with myself, but I understand that through that, Wilcock helped to bankrupt at least one person who bought into it.

As far as Corey goes, the face he presents to the public and the one he demonstrates in private are often two completely different faces, though his "private face" has emerged on the open forums before, which is why he was banned here. If he really was in any kind of covert military program it was probably related to Project Bluebird, which is to say he was probably programmed with multiple personalities and even to "go public" just to infiltrate alternative communities and cause chaos. That would be my best guess. I have the same feeling about people such as Gordon Duff and Alex Jones, even if they are not programmed, because all they are doing is setting up the alternative community for embarrassment.

I have come to be extra careful about listening to rumors when they are going around about people as well, from dealing indirectly with Corey. There were some pretty nasty rumors going around about another person claiming contact with ET beings, a certain councilor, and I have since learned for a fact that the nastiest of these rumors were started by Corey Goode himself through private channels, and I now believe that they were totally baseless. He had nothing good to say about this person until said person mentioned Blue Avians at some point, and then Corey was very proud of himself and was bragging about the confirmation on his blog. Proud of the endorsement of someone who he had just been spreading terrible rumors about. He also spread rumors about me personally on another forum that you are familiar with, Urikorn, which I know for a fact were baseless, and frankly were ridiculous. He spreads rumors about people and starts drama in private channels because he sows discord, and he targets people who criticize him first. Sowing discord within the alternative community is something that would interest certain parties, I should mention.

It's just a matter of time before this whole thing blows up once again in DW's face. And he will just stop mentioning Corey, remove related material from his site and you'll never hear it again from him. That's been David's modus operandi for over 15 years now.


Thanks for this. I've only just read this important post of yours, and would like to bump the entire thing.

[Harley]

HeadachesRMe

(I'm serious)

[sigma6]

I have promised to add in a post, (So for now I will just add this until I can absorb this snowball of a thread...) as I just got a message... and ironically I have been enjoying all these free movies so abundant on the internet (another sign of the times?) both released to DVD and many not... when just last night (before I came on here... and got this message...) was watching this movie... some may think it is just pure entertainment and it is definitely entertaining... almost along the lines of Rocky Horror, to the tune of Nazi Germans and a NWO theme... (bizarre I know...) but a perfect satire vehicle... Satire... nothing satisfies like good satire... (thank you Woody Allen... I get it now... lol)


And there's definitely a few messages in this one... I can't wait to check the sequel to see if it still follows the same theme...

check it out... it's worth the watch on entertainment alone... but try to look deeper... it's so in your face really... remember, sometimes you just have to switch it around to it's opposite before it clicks... ;-)

Iron Sky...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k155FekFaso

k155FekFaso

Coincidence? or what?

[Flash]

i must say a word about the TOT members and their handling of UNIKORN crying:

wow, I am impressed. They are not letting him having temper tantrum and be uniminded in one type of behavior more than we did here. This shows ethics and consideration.

Great!! and thanks!

Maybe the planet will finally come together and kick the trouble makers out..

[grannyfranny100]

Very funny movie...thanks.

[DeDukshyn]

Very funny movie...thanks.

I really liked Iron Sky. I thought it had a lot of potential, to really maximize off the wall humour; the humour was good, but it needed just a bit more of it imo to be a "great" . 7/10

[grannyfranny100]

Don't miss some of the props- a moon community of Nazis still relying on an old time wood wall mount telephone. They were totally fascinated by an astronaut's cell phone which they used to boost their computer. And yes, my mind drifted into "what if" we were the moon based bullies and were attacking the earth bound humans. Plus the USA president looked a lot like a Sarah Palin. This is the first time I missed having a 50" TV to view this movie. I will definitely watch this one more time or more. Thanks again! I definitely need more silliness (with underlying meaning) in my life.

[Innocent Warrior]

I haven't read or watched much of Corey's material, but enough to know there's plenty of bs but what's worse is there is truths mixed in and these truths have lead me to believe he is scouting for people with unusual abilities, in addition to MILABs.

This is what I know;

The small violet spheres who visit people are real.

Corey has written of memories that my son told me about, when he (my son) was experiencing these similar events. The events were obscure and unusual. I had never told anyone about them and I know my son didn't because he can't remember them.

From personal experiences, this is what I suspect;

There are benevolent beings who are in contact with humans. They sometimes take humans somewhere, where I don't know, and why, I'm not sure. I think the beings have something to do with the abilities, and that has something to do with what happens when they visit. There could be implants involved, for tracking and abilities but they're most likely energetic, the vibration of these beings and people are very high.

If this is so, whoever controls Corey knows this, hence his memories, screens or not. I have no doubt there are others like my son and that many are not aware of what's going on, but the military does.

So along comes Corey, who shares these memories and writes of beings that contactees/experiencers know are real, to be clear, I'm not talking about huge spheres or Blue Avians, just the small violet spheres. With limited awareness of the big picture (for their own protection), the contactees, searching for answers to their unusual experiences/abilities, recognise Corey's experiences and are drawn to him and his material. Corey is most interested and accomodating to these people and extends invitations to contact him personally.

It's ok if nobody believes what I say I know or agrees with what I suspect, I have written this as a warning for other people like my son. I wouldn't feel right about keeping these observations to myself just because I imagine people won't believe me.

To other people like my son, don't look to others for answers. You are more than capable of finding the answers yourselves and you already know how, trust your own senses. I have no doubts my son is protected and so are you. Live fearlessly, stay sovereign and thanks for being here.

[Deega]

That explains what happened in Texas, the brain drain, they shipped all their top minds to Mars in the 50's...

bushs and Perrys didn't make the cut...


Hey thanks Rocky, you had me ''laughing'' like crazy.

[Hervé]

... lead me to believe he is scouting for people with unusual abilities, in addition to MILABs.

[...]

Hi Innocent Warrior,

Thank you for your additional data and knowledge! That certainly makes a lot of sense to me (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81805-The-Blog-of-The-Ruiner-Inside-the-Illuminati-Mind&p=972600&viewfull=1#post972600) <---)!

As for the militaries, yes they have known of these abilities, implants, etc. as well as how to trigger them into activity (or turn them off):

Here is a facsimile of a document incorporated within William Cooper's book "A Covenant With Death":


https://fwtinw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1pmsaZWb2tWog9WRSnJaoEIZ_qphSvh_VvhzHnn7z7TehR1OI2zo9LoQAfarX6EtqzcYCS5oy_pWbTMtb1po77lB9QpYL8KsmO/Covenant%20with%20Death-02.jpg?psid=1



Interestingly, the account of it published at http://ufo.whipnet.org/xdocs/convenant/index7.html skips the part mentioning "It is here where billion-year-old psychological implants may be restimulated."

Like: the people convinced of the existence of ETs from various walk of "life" and having been around from times immemorial, as well as believing in immortal "souls," have a hard time grasping that psychological warfare could possibly be just a mere blink of a few billion years old compared to eternity...

The upshot of this document is that "they" know of such previous implants and therefore also how to turn them off or restimulate/trigger them into activity/action. One of the main way to turn off/on earth population is via MSM and popular movies... "Avatar" anyone? "Oblivion"?

[Bill Ryan]

These truths have lead me to believe he is scouting for people with unusual abilities, in addition to MILABs.



It's a reasonable hypothesis, and fits all the facts. In November 2014, after his initial interview with Christine was published, Corey was in personal behind-the-scenes contact with over 35 people from this forum who knew they also had, or felt they may have had, Milab experiences.

We (the Avalon mods) knew a few of these members, but to this day we never knew who most of them were. We did, however, discover that one of them (Lysaur, now unsubscribed) was a mole, who knowingly, deliberately and maliciously leaked some very personal details elsewhere on the internet.

We have a duty of protection on the forum, which we take very seriously; and what we found was happening had been taken completely out of our hands. Corey was making every decision. He was even giving his contacts personal counseling sessions over Skype. This concerned us greatly.

Some other of the Milab experiencers who had been peripherally involved in what was occurring expressed great concern, as well, citing (correctly) that in no way was Corey stable, trained or professionally competent to do what he was taking it upon himself to do.

The thing to bear in mind here is that by Corey's own admission, he has personal government contacts in or closely connected to the FBI, the DHS, and (go figure) this includes one senior intel-connected member of the Church of Scientology.

All this is chronicled in detail in posts written here in December 2014 either by himself, or his own wife (former member SilverPhoenix).

(Note: to search for posts by an unsubscribed member, even if they no longer show up in the current Members list (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/memberlist.php), use the Advanced Search (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/search.php?search_type=1). Everything's there.)

Why this is crucial to understand is that if anything that Corey has posted or written, anywhere at all, about anyone or anything (including myself and the Avalon forum!) wasn't in alignment with the agendas of the US military intelligence apparatus (who know him well) — they would lean on him in an instant. Even maybe with a friendly phone call to his house.

In simple terms: everything he is posting is de facto sanctioned.

This is an important post. Now, please read it again. :)

[Innocent Warrior]

Hi Innocent Warrior,

Thank you for your additional data and knowledge! That certainly makes a lot of sense to me...

As for the militaries, yes they have known of these abilities, implants, etc. as well as how to trigger them into activity (or turn them off):Here is a facsimile of a document incorporated within William Cooper's book "A Covenant With Death":

The upshot of this document is that "they" know of such previous implants and therefore also how to turn them off or restimulate/trigger them into activity/action. One of the main way to turn off/on earth population is via MSM and popular movies... "Avatar" anyone? "Oblivion"?

You're welcome. Thanks for the document, very interesting.

Ancient energy implants, surely this sort of technology is way over their head, I wonder how good their grasp on what their messing with is and I wonder how much guidance they receive, from ETs/IBs, when they're working with it? The military traded for technology and humans work with aliens in military bases. This is a very easy way to steer humanity, have a working relationship with the ones in control and give them technology they don't fully understand. Something for military assets to think about.


The thing to bear in mind here is that by Corey's own admission, he has personal government contacts in or closely connected to the FBI, the DHS, and [I](go figure) this includes one senior intel-connected member of the Church of Scientology.


Why this is crucial to understand is that if anything that Corey has posted or written, anywhere at all, about anyone or anything (including myself and the Avalon forum!) wasn't in alignment with the agendas of the US military intelligence apparatus (who know him well) — they would lean on him in an instant. Even maybe with a friendly phone call to his house.

In simple terms: everything he is posting is de facto sanctioned.


Ha, figures. Yes, de facto sanctioned and well supported, by the looks of it. Thanks for the info.

[Limor Wolf]

Hi Innocent Warrior, thanks, I very much suspect that what you wrote is accurate and there are real tactics of scouting (and wanting to gather) certain humans (or human types) under one umbrella using MILABS/Abductees for that purpose. Correy may well have been used for such, (between the usual spread of disinfo with truths for the purpose of Exopolitical misconceptions and the wasting of time..), but he is not alone, and the same use is done via highly capable, relentlessly working well meaning very 'in the know' tallented people, such as contactees who speaks for one group or another, and recruiting for 'good' purposes. Apparently every human being who has a part in the ET's-planet on-goings and a prominent voice and an ET experience can be played against their own motives, and good people are being used. The difference is whether one runs with the ball and identify with what they sell for 100%, as happens in this case - Wilcock- GoodEt, or whether they stop to question and inquire their own experience and information provided and have an expression that considers all possibilities with an amount of awarness and a little more cautious..

It is unfortunate that Corey went along with the lashing out against some Avalon members, and unfortunate that this dynamic is still playing itself and gets the energy that is intended..

At the base of it, hard core experiencers and Milabs have a most challanging and sometimes difficult reality to encounter, I have personal such experiences as well (which may be reflected in my responses : ), it is reasonable to judge an unfair accusations and defend ourselves from it, but with time perheps another possibility is to simply turn our backs to the lashing dynamics and use discernement of information, and should it not stand to the scrutiny, invest our times on greener pastures..


Originally posted by Innocent warrior:" To other people like my son, don't look to others for answers. You are more than capable of finding the answers yourselves and you already know how, trust your own senses. I have no doubts my son is protected and so are you. Live fearlessly, stay sovereign and thanks for being here."

Sounds like a good advice!

Hervé, thanks for attaching the relevant Bill Cooper document


Love and blessings,

Limor

[birddog]

Zionbrion wrote : "Anyone else feel like Coreys latest article felt like a short science fiction story?"


Birddog wrote.....Knowing what I know...this may be a good time for a distraction, so yes. Jade Helm is coming, and probably for your guns. Careful.

As far as Mars goes, I took a trip OOB some years back when I was RVing. I asked my guides to take me to what I
needed to see. I saw some things that were very significant, and then I was drawn to an ice crevase. I floated downward,
noticing the many deep ledges on the way down where someone could camp and be protected from the elements of
the weather. As I neared the bottom, I saw a frail elderly man and a little girl come out into the opening. the little girl had
dirt on her dress and shoes, and face, and the older gentleman, had dirt on hit shoes, and his face, and his clothes were
soiled as well. It looked like they had been doing something in the dirt....perhaps helping in the mines? This wasn't the kind
of work anyone their ages would be doing, I thought. Furthermore, it would not have been their choice to come here from
Earth to do this, or live here. So, I thought that someone must have volunteered them, against their will. I had assumed that
there must be others brought there the same way, for the same purpose. It wouldn't make sense any other way, I thought.
Yesterday, I saw a picture of a work gang that was smuggled out of Mars....supposedly. The uniforms were dusty, like the older
man's clothes and the little girls, and all of the uniforms were larger than needed, making me think that the workers had lost weight.
So, do I think a slave system exists on Mars. Yes. And I read its for large corporations. I can believe that.

[Innocent Warrior]

Hi Innocent Warrior, thanks, I very much suspect that what you wrote is accurate and there are real tactics of scouting (and wanting to gather) certain humans (or human types) under one umbrella using MILABS/Abductees for that purpose. Correy may well have been used for such, (between the usual spread of disinfo with truths for the purpose of Exopolitical misconceptions and the wasting of time..), but he is not alone, and the same use is done via highly capable, relentlessly working well meaning very 'in the know' tallented people, such as contactees who speaks for one group or another, and recruiting for 'good' purposes. Apparently every human being who has a part in the ET's-planet on-goings and a prominent voice and an ET experience can be played against their own motives, and good people are being used. The difference is whether one runs with the ball and identify with what they sell for 100%, as happens in this case - Wilcock- GoodEt, or whether they stop to question and inquire their own experience and information provided and have an expression that considers all possibilities with an amount of awarness and a little more cautious..

It is unfortunate that Corey went along with the lashing out against some Avalon members, and unfortunate that this dynamic is still playing itself and gets the energy that is intended..

At the base of it, hard core experiencers and Milabs have a most challanging and sometimes difficult reality to encounter, I have personal such experiences as well (which may be reflected in my responses : ), it is reasonable to judge an unfair accusations and defend ourselves from it, but with time perheps another possibility is to simply turn our backs to the lashing dynamics and use discernement of information, and should it not stand to the scrutiny, invest our times on greener pastures...

Hi Limor. :)

I understand what you're saying and agree, thank you. <3

[sigma6]

Very funny movie...thanks.

Your lucky you got to watch it, if you got it from the link I shared... by the looks of it...


Iron Sky...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k155FekFaso
k155FekFaso


...Sadly and predictably, (I really shouldn't have posted that link... my apologies to the YouTuber that so brilliantly uploaded it... ) I knew that link wouldn't last very long, but still surprised how quick "someone" killed it o.O?? ... Its quick demise after posting here, tells me we still have a clear and significant population of "anti" Avalon agents who must be following, take due note gentle members... that post was running solid for quite some time by the views I saw on it...


...what I find interesting though, is that if you click on it... it doesn't say removed for copyright infringement... rather oddly instead it says...

This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy against spam, scams, and commercially deceptive content.


as Bugs would say "verweee interwesting.." ...and like I said you just have to spin it around to it's opposite... until it clicks...




¤=[Post Update]=¤



Very funny movie...thanks.

I really liked Iron Sky. I thought it had a lot of potential, to really maximize off the wall humour; the humour was good, but it needed just a bit more of it imo to be a "great" . 7/10

I don't think it could ever be blockbuster "great" (sheeple aren't "there" quite yet...) (although it was perfectly "great" in my mind) The best it could achieve is cult status, why it brought to mind Rocky Horror comparisons... (the ultimate cult status film of all time probably...)

I say it could never go main stream because of it's content of course... just too close to home, and when you hold it within the context of this thread... it is all too clear...


adding actual Committee Report for point of reference
https://www.congress.gov/congressional-report/114th-congress/house-report/153

[sigma6]

Zionbrion wrote : "Anyone else feel like Coreys latest article felt like a short science fiction story?"


Birddog wrote.....Knowing what I know...this may be a good time for a distraction, so yes. Jade Helm is coming, and probably for your guns. Careful.

As far as Mars goes, I took a trip OOB some years back when I was RVing. I asked my guides to take me to what I
needed to see. I saw some things that were very significant, and then I was drawn to an ice crevase. I floated downward,
noticing the many deep ledges on the way down where someone could camp and be protected from the elements of
the weather. As I neared the bottom, I saw a frail elderly man and a little girl come out into the opening. the little girl had
dirt on her dress and shoes, and face, and the older gentleman, had dirt on hit shoes, and his face, and his clothes were
soiled as well. It looked like they had been doing something in the dirt....perhaps helping in the mines? This wasn't the kind
of work anyone their ages would be doing, I thought. Furthermore, it would not have been their choice to come here from
Earth to do this, or live here. So, I thought that someone must have volunteered them, against their will. I had assumed that
there must be others brought there the same way, for the same purpose. It wouldn't make sense any other way, I thought.
Yesterday, I saw a picture of a work gang that was smuggled out of Mars....supposedly. The uniforms were dusty, like the older
man's clothes and the little girls, and all of the uniforms were larger than needed, making me think that the workers had lost weight.
So, do I think a slave system exists on Mars. Yes. And I read its for large corporations. I can believe that.

Can't say cause I am still absorbing information, but when reading various accounts posted (and I hear you re: what you speak of) I try to differentiate between the "content" of what is being talked about vs the "literary style" of how it is written, I don't like to give away this info, as it only educates the deceivers, but consider that everything thing Phillipe K Dick wrote was "science fiction" ... it was clear he had "relevant" visions, experiences, etc... and for all practical intents and purposes, as far as I am concerned he saw the past, present and he certainly has made accurate predictions into the future... Consider this thread and the House Report could be written into a "prequel" of for the movie "Blade Runner"... has anyone noticed this unmistakable connection? Also by chance another couple fave authors like Isaac Asimov and Arthur C Clarke... I started reading Asimov back in the late 70s, early 80s... at that time it was considered pure fantasy... I can't help but think he was tapping into information from somewhere... I don't recall he ever directly challenged Einstein's theories publicly, but his novels certainly did... and these men were scientist's first and science fiction was probably just an intellectual vent...

i.e. there is stuff that sounds like "novel fiction" and there are edgy science fictions writers that use the genre as a political vehicle to reveal truths... and of course today, there are "opportunists" knowing all of this, that play both ends, purposely writing "suggestive fiction" to capitalize on this very trend itself and capture both demographics...

[Pam]

I haven't read or watched much of Corey's material, but enough to know there's plenty of bs but what's worse is there is truths mixed in and these truths have lead me to believe he is scouting for people with unusual abilities, in addition to MILABs.

This is what I know;

The small violet spheres who visit people are real.

Corey has written of memories that my son told me about, when he (my son) was experiencing these similar events. The events were obscure and unusual. I had never told anyone about them and I know my son didn't because he can't remember them.

From personal experiences, this is what I suspect;

There are benevolent beings who are in contact with humans. They sometimes take humans somewhere, where I don't know, and why, I'm not sure. I think the beings have something to do with the abilities, and that has something to do with what happens when they visit. There could be implants involved, for tracking and abilities but they're most likely energetic, the vibration of these beings and people are very high.

If this is so, whoever controls Corey knows this, hence his memories, screens or not. I have no doubt there are others like my son and that many are not aware of what's going on, but the military does.

So along comes Corey, who shares these memories and writes of beings that contactees/experiencers know are real, to be clear, I'm not talking about huge spheres or Blue Avians, just the small violet spheres. With limited awareness of the big picture (for their own protection), the contactees, searching for answers to their unusual experiences/abilities, recognise Corey's experiences and are drawn to him and his material. Corey is most interested and accomodating to these people and extends invitations to contact him personally.

It's ok if nobody believes what I say I know or agrees with what I suspect, I have written this as a warning for other people like my son. I wouldn't feel right about keeping these observations to myself just because I imagine people won't believe me.

To other people like my son, don't look to others for answers. You are more than capable of finding the answers yourselves and you already know how, trust your own senses. I have no doubts my son is protected and so are you. Live fearlessly, stay sovereign and thanks for being here.




Innocent Warrior, I hold the highest respect for you and do not doubt your integrity in any way, and I may have to reconsider some of my beliefs. Thanks for all of your contributions on PA

[Innocent Warrior]

Innocent Warrior, I hold the highest respect for you and do not doubt your integrity in any way, and I may have to reconsider some of my beliefs. Thanks for all of your contributions on PA

That's very kind of you to post, thank you. :)

What I wrote in the "what I know" section is solid, but my suspicions, about the spheres and memories themselves, are just piecing things together, the best I can make of it at this time. The document Herve posted is interesting though.

<3

[Omni]

Innocent Warrior, I hold the highest respect for you and do not doubt your integrity in any way, and I may have to reconsider some of my beliefs. Thanks for all of your contributions on PA

That's very kind of you to post, thank you. :)

What I wrote in the "what I know" section is solid, but my suspicions, about the spheres and memories themselves, are just piecing things together, the best I can make of it at this time. The document Herve posted is interesting though.

<3

Have you considered Corey or his handlers are just using an existing phenomena(or creating one with technology) and latching a psy op to it?

Corey reads a bunch of other people's material and presents it as his own I tend to think. Like when he was still posting on Avalon and Bill Ryan caught him posting another websites info as his own. To my knowledge he never spoke of technological channeling until I know he had read it from me, and so on.

I think the US military saw an opportunity to use an existing phenomena(orbs), and connect it to a psy op.

Orbs can have many sources. Technology can create light orbs. The black ops have this technology, I know for a fact(Bluebeam). They can also do synthetic optics which could create something like a light orb. Then there is potential other sources for orbs, like ETs using their own technology to help a paradigm shift. Showing people a spaceship, or strange anomalous activity can have great effects on people. Such as a spiritual awakening and a thirst for knowledge when both were locked up deep down somewhere before that person saw a UFO/Orb.

Also ETs have an easier time with showing people just orbs of light rather than a physical ET or a ship. Just as they have an easier time giving people experiences while on DMT etc, plausible deniability makes ET actions more possible in the current global environment. So I could see the black ops sources using that tactic of ETs against them, if they did not do comprehensive orb sightings for years themselves to set up psy ops.

Pretty easy if they did. Use the bluebeam technology on a few dozen thousands of people, wouldn't take much to carry that out with the current AI systems. Then do a psy op about "sphere beings". It fits IMO.

I do know for pretty much fact Corey is a military psy op, witting or unwitting agent(one skype convo i saw shows evidence for witting as surprising as that was). He has some good truths to mix with the normal psy ops(savior model, densities/ascension model, BOTH lead to inaction). Maybe you cannot see this stuff, but after almost a decade of overt tactics being used on me, I see them in Corey's info abundantly.

[Innocent Warrior]

Have you considered Corey or his handlers are just using an existing phenomena(or creating one with technology) and latching a psy op to it.

Yes, I've considered this and Limor Wolf briefly mentioned additional agendas in her post, to which I agreed. As for the nature of the phenomena, I'd rather not go into too much detail but I do consider various possibilities as I piece things together. A working progress. Thanks for sharing your insights, Omni.

[Carmody]

I don't think Sierra is trying to be the thought police, Urikorn. Maybe you are new to following individuals like David Wilcock and Corey Goode, but after so many years of these kinds of characters, anyone would become very jaded with them.

I was recently reviewing an old thread here about past predictions Wilcock had made that didn't come to pass. He was saying that Saddam Hussein was going to be the anti-christ discussed in Christian apocalyptic literature, that the year 2000 was going to be "the ascension," whatever that was, and that we should prepare for how awesome it would be. He predicted that Obama was going to publicly disclose ET presence in 2010, with a 2-hour television appearance during prime time. These are just a few things off the top of my head. There was also the Neil Keenan affair which I am not very familiar with myself, but I understand that through that, Wilcock helped to bankrupt at least one person who bought into it.

As far as Corey goes, the face he presents to the public and the one he demonstrates in private are often two completely different faces, though his "private face" has emerged on the open forums before, which is why he was banned here. If he really was in any kind of covert military program it was probably related to Project Bluebird, which is to say he was probably programmed with multiple personalities and even to "go public" just to infiltrate alternative communities and cause chaos. That would be my best guess. I have the same feeling about people such as Gordon Duff and Alex Jones, even if they are not programmed, because all they are doing is setting up the alternative community for embarrassment.

I have come to be extra careful about listening to rumors when they are going around about people as well, from dealing indirectly with Corey. There were some pretty nasty rumors going around about another person claiming contact with ET beings, a certain councilor, and I have since learned for a fact that the nastiest of these rumors were started by Corey Goode himself through private channels, and I now believe that they were totally baseless. He had nothing good to say about this person until said person mentioned Blue Avians at some point, and then Corey was very proud of himself and was bragging about the confirmation on his blog. Proud of the endorsement of someone who he had just been spreading terrible rumors about. He also spread rumors about me personally on another forum that you are familiar with, Urikorn, which I know for a fact were baseless, and frankly were ridiculous. He spreads rumors about people and starts drama in private channels because he sows discord, and he targets people who criticize him first. Sowing discord within the alternative community is something that would interest certain parties, I should mention.

It's just a matter of time before this whole thing blows up once again in DW's face. And he will just stop mentioning Corey, remove related material from his site and you'll never hear it again from him. That's been David's modus operandi for over 15 years now.


Thanks for this. I've only just read this important post of yours, and would like to bump the entire thing.

His books are good, so I wish he'd stop polluting the world with the other stuff - which dilutes the character of the books and what is in them, via association. A very bad deal, under the best of analysis. When it moves to being a 15 year pattern, this leads to some questions.

[Limor Wolf]

Cautiously tipping to this thread, again.. and asking for your forgivness in advance, because this may probably not be to the taste of all ears and all perspectives. But, can any of us remember how a few years ago we used to be a lot more aware to the third side rocking the cradle, well, today we seem to almost forget about it.. as a kind of a passe compose. We forget that underneath we all share things in common (more so than differences), despite the hurts and errors, the strong convictions, the mistakes, and the info/disinfo we try to sift through, we may remind ourselves the unhealthy conditions that we find ourselves functioning in.. Experiencers and contactees, Milabs and abductees, government insiders and decision makers anyone else who plays anything in this arena has possibly at one time or another been through some kind of a meat grinder in their life. Post traumatic stress and dysfunction are known symptoms within this 'milieu', that is a commonality that we keep forgeting and instead we at times issue a contest of who had been hurt most and how the other one is a liar and a psy ops. even psy ops need two to tango..

The desire to know what's going on when it comes to our life with the 'others', either feathery winged people, or light blue orbs, actually worth nothing, if we can not see the division created by the third party (and forth and fifth) and their use of the many technological and other controling means, and decide to withdraw our attention after we listened, make discernement and expressed them once or twice. If we wouldn't put our casino tokens on this game, why to give it our energy?

Corey has been a long time member in Avalon, and it's fair to say he was honest and worked to rehabilitate himself, any errings that comes afterwards are a misfortune, not to remove any self responsibility from his choice of conduct, and hurt of others who reached their hand to help, but it's difficult to get out of the 'projects' when a person is targeted and was possibly reprogrammed.

Omniverse, I believe there are one or two things you mentioned in your post that are not completely accurate, you possibly have a more in common with correy than you may want to believe, and so do I and others

We stand no chance if we fail to see the greater tactics and manipulations to keep ourselves divided and pointing at one another, perheps if we stop feeding this energy we can arrive to our best result

:heart:

Limor

[Omni]

Omniverse, I believe there are one or two things you mentioned in your post that are not completely accurate, you possibly have a more in common with correy than you may want to believe, and so do I and others
Please show them to me. Not exactly fair to say I am inaccurate without saying how. And if you read page 15 of the blue avian thread Corey was caught in a lie,.. Also you can ask Bill himself if he caught Corey posting info from another source presenting it as his own.... so no, he has not been honest. And frankly to be compared with Corey is offensive to me Limor. To be honest it shows more about your discernment than anything about me in my view, with all due respect...

I have a screenshot from a trusted source of Corey on skype saying he is on the payroll, and "it is what it is". Corey's response is it is photoshopped... The source who sent it to me has always been courteous(even when we disagree, which is how corey started hating me and slandering me), respectful, and nobody as far as I know has caught him lying. Avalon finds him pretty credible, he used to be a mod on Avalon as well...

If you think I am very similar to Corey I know you are in error. It is a shame you cannot discern such to be honest. I am not a US government asset. If I was why would they be trying so hard to get people to misjudge me or turn off to my information? You obviously do not see what I do. The shadow government is dead set on discrediting and destroying me. Why the years of mind control aimed at character assassination? Why all the torture? Why the body mutilation? Why make me incapable of reproducing? Why attempt to stop me from knowing love? Why mind control people to attack me? Why mind control me as well as people around me in nefarious ways for them to misjudge me. Why try to make my music worse? Why mind control assets to derail my threads,...not so much on avalon but on other forums plenty of pretty solidly MK asset types derail my threads in the past - and yes i absolutely can detect signs of mind control after 8 years of overt mind control tactics done to me.

I have never seen a smidge of information from Corey that is tangible. Maybe he has some(likely ripped off from someone else), maybe not. But yes, comparing me to him is offensive to me. And shows your own inability to discern a legit truth source from a disinfo asset. I am not saying I am always right, but I am correct and aligned to truth in sensitive areas enough to merit severe targeting and suppression, as well as character assassination. If my documentaries and books take off no doubt I will be viciously character assassinated...

Sorry if I am a bit annoyed right now Limor, but honestly being told Im like corey is one of the worst things you could possibly say to me...

[Hervé]

Omniverse, I believe there are one or two things you mentioned in your post that are not completely accurate, you possibly have a more in common with correy than you may want to believe, and so do I and others
[...]
Sorry if I am a bit annoyed right now Limor, but honestly being told Im like corey is one of the worst things you could possibly say to me...

Wooops... emotions kicking in...

Omni, Limor's "in common" doesn't mean "like" or similar but -- if I got it straight -- suffering from what the rest of the planet is struggling with and that is: Programming

That doesn't mean the same program either, just that all of us are entangled to those, one way or another, one form or another... only a few like yourself and Limor are aware that any response/reaction has to be scanned for any program behind it.

[Omni]

Omniverse, I believe there are one or two things you mentioned in your post that are not completely accurate, you possibly have a more in common with correy than you may want to believe, and so do I and others
[...]
Sorry if I am a bit annoyed right now Limor, but honestly being told Im like corey is one of the worst things you could possibly say to me...

Wooops... emotions kicking in...

Omni, Limor's "in common" doesn't mean "like" or similar but -- if I got it straight -- suffering from what the rest of the planet is struggling with and that is: Programming

That doesn't mean the same program either, just that all of us are entangled to those, one way or another, one form or another... only a few like yourself and Limor are aware that any response/reaction has to be scanned for any program behind it.

Thank you for the clarification Herve. Maybe I misinterpreted it. I just find it offensive to assert I am anywhere near corey in practically any way. If you had Extraterrestrial grade intelligence(all seeing eye profiles) you would know how different we are.

I aspire to the highest levels of integrity I have witnessed in any human being(tied). I have worked hard on myself, such as eliminating embellishing, exaggerating, and lying to almost all degrees. I pretty much only lie when this world is too undeveloped to treat me correctly(for example police - "no officer i have no cannabis in the car"), it is a vote of incompetence to the sources I lie to,... i have almost completely eliminated embellishing/exaggeration/lying, if it wasn't for bull**** injustices in this world, i would not tell a lie for the rest of my life. I would NEVER tell a deliberate lie about another person, as corey has done to me. To hear someone so well respected(even by me) such as Limor say Corey was "honest" rubs me the wrong way after I conclusively saw him lie about me, and deceptively present his information.

Corey went around on multiple websites slandering me calling me an AI prophet on his blog, turning many people against me including Avalonians who were bamboozled by his lies. He lied plenty of times in his statements about me, embellished/exaggerated other things he could never back up when asked. For example saying i get my info from channeling. Or that I have been caught lying by him several times(never happened).

I value the truth to a high degree. Corey does not. He will make up anything about anyone who opposes him, ask bsbray, ask theruiner, ask me, ask Bill Ryan,.. Even Christine supposedly had corey turn on her if what i heard was right. He is NOT innocent, honest, or trustworthy. Nor does he have virtuous character. Nor is he 'empathetic' in any sign many have seen. He is almost an exact opposite of myself. Not many avalonians know my character, but those who do know me know I have great character, great integrity, trustworthy, honorable, and am dedicated/altruistic to helping planet Earth expecting nothing but character assassination in return. Corey has nothing to do with those qualities in my experiences and observations. And how bad he has treated me makes me feel injustice and untruth when someone says he was honest, and is similar to me.

Maybe I should have taken the hint when Limor said she is similar too, I doubt she would be saying she herself is a disinfo asset. I took it as Limor saying i am a disinfo source like corey is. Been up all night, im out of town and a leather couch is what i had to sleep on, couldnt sleep, made more than one mental mistake in that time period.... Sorry Limor(and any reader who sensed negative energy in me after perceiving a well respected member misconstrue the truth related to myself)...

[Hervé]

[...]

... I just find it offensive to assert I am anywhere near corey in practically any way. [...]

I do understand, completely, and I too would feel offended of such an assertion if it were made about me. However, I would also take into consideration the followings:

"How come has that :rant: managed to work my mind into such a state I can make mistakes so easily?"

But, that's me :)

Wish you to get some rest until you are able to utter something like "What was that all about anyway?!"

Cheers!

[Limor Wolf]

Yes, Herve is 100% correct. Omniverse, I am truly sorry, I think you know how deeply I appreciate you.. and how much you are appreciated here. Your wealth of knowledge and original thinking is beyond what can be heard from anyone else! no one should be an expert on such things.. no one. You have a lot going for you, soul wise, and that is why you are such a focal point of interest.. I happened to know that Corey himself had a very rough life experiences, something that you will well know about yourself.. The unspeakable methods of putting hands on young children to later be adults is a blatant violation of all laws of the universe, you know what I am talking about. Perheps with that you can better understand what I mean by using the word 'common', from here the details are less important.., everyone has their own challenges.

There must be a great sensitivity to be compared to anyone who in our minds we don't synchronise with their current behaviour and choices, but everyone have their own stories, and we do share some challenges, interests and mutual goals.. eventually. There is a good chance that my discernement is incomplete, that's a possibility. I tick all the statements and question marks that you arised with regards to yourself, no one but one who walks in your shoes can understand where you come from..

I don't know if it's worth to point on the incorrectness, but knowing how you value truth to a high degree.. I believe there was a slight misunderstanding at the time and Corey did mention in his intial post that his text and advices with regards to clearing entities (I think that was it..), was something he read about and taken to, perheps even added the link.

You know what they say - 'When two are in a battle the third party wins'..

Much Love

Limor

[Hervé]

[...]
I believe there was a slight misunderstanding at the time and Corey did mention in his intial post that his text and advices with regards to clearing entities (I think that was it..), was something he read about and taken to, perheps even added the link.
[...]

Here is the post in question and about which we received a complaint; hence my "Mod-edit" at the beginning of the post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66018-A-major-new-interview-with-a-Project-Avalon-Whistleblower--Questions-for-GoodETxSG-&p=910704&viewfull=1#post910704


[Mod edit: We have been contacted by Peter Michael, the owner of the site entityattachment.com (http://entityattachment.com), with a request to add the proper attribution to this post.

Although this hereby post's author (Corey Goode) indicates he found it on the web, he failed to give due credit to the original author. Hervé]

[PathWalker]

Omniverse, I believe there are one or two things you mentioned in your post that are not completely accurate, you possibly have a more in common with correy than you may want to believe, and so do I and others
I am not a US government asset. If I was why would they be trying so hard to get people to misjudge me or turn off to my information? You obviously do not see what I do. The shadow government is dead set on discrediting and destroying me. Why the years of mind control aimed at character assassination? Why all the torture? Why the body mutilation? Why make me incapable of reproducing? Why attempt to stop me from knowing love? Why mind control people to attack me? Why mind control me as well as people around me in nefarious ways for them to misjudge me. Why try to make my music worse? Why mind control assets to derail my threads,...not so much on avalon but on other forums plenty of pretty solidly MK asset types derail my threads in the past - and yes i absolutely can detect signs of mind control after 8 years of overt mind control tactics done to me.


Greetings and blessing to Omniverse,

Your pain and anger is apparent.
I believe and hope (Limor can confirm), that her post is about compassion to the suffering. And balancing the anger/hate in this thread.

Yes no one is pure, and we share human faults and blessing. These faults are what make us feeble vulnerable humans. But these faults are our might and potential for grandeur. Almost if not all human innovations come from militaristic motives. It is not possible to express galore and/or bravery with no distress (can you see the duality here?).

Each every one of us, can identify faults in others. These finger pointing at each other is another divide and conquer tactic to control the alternative media. The PTW inflict us with pain and suffering, then use this suffering to divide us more and lash us against each other. See the middle east, Africa, India.

I have great respect to Omniverse as a person and a prime PA contributor. I wish to encourage Omniverse and support his goal. YOU are not a victim. WE are not victims. Unless we take this role in the drama. I learned this from Buddhist teaching.

Looking forward to more Omniverse contributions.
BTW I was also attacked by Corey and was kindly advised by the moderator to leave that thread. Which I did.

[Hervé]

To anyone having had troubles with Corey, please, let this sink in:


[...]
Why this is crucial to understand is that if anything that Corey has posted or written, anywhere at all, about anyone or anything (including myself and the Avalon forum!) wasn't in alignment with the agendas of the US military intelligence apparatus (who know him well) — they would lean on him in an instant. Even maybe with a friendly phone call to his house.

In simple terms: everything he is posting is de facto sanctioned.

This is an important post. Now, please read it again. :)

[regnak]

Well I quite like Corey truthfully some of the information is beyond me like Blue Avians, Sphere being Alliance some of his information is good I interested in star gates and secret space program

is it good to throw the baby out with the bath water

:sun:

[araucaria]

Well I quite like Corey truthfully some of the information is beyond me like Blue Avians, Sphere being Alliance some of his information is good I interested in star gates and secret space program

is it good to throw the baby out with the bath water

:sun:
Wrong metaphor (there is no baby), and wrong household appliance. Did you (re)read Bill's post? Maybe one more time: 'everything...' can be flushed down the toilet.

[regnak]

Araucaria I do not wish to argue with you about it I believe Bill is wrong to rule out everything Corey says but who am I to give instructions to the great Bill RYAN
Indeed Bill Ryan is one of the greats opened by eyes a little some of the Project the Camelot videos were truly great ( a fan of Bod Deane )

:shielddeflect:

[Hervé]

Let's see if any of this can be applied to the believers of Corey's entranced "sightings":

When Prophecy Fails: A Social and Psychological Study of a Modern Group That Predicted the Destruction of the World (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails)

which led to the study of

Cognitive dissonance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance)

and its side effects...

... when replacing "destruction" with "salvation"...

[grannyfranny100]

So much is available to work on to create the world we want. So many issues to address. Why would you spend time following Corey's posts? If you believe in Corey, let him get on with his work. That frees up your time to make powerful contributions to the everyday problems on earth.

[araucaria]

Blue avians are turning up in odd places these days. From the Wimbledon newsletter:

Defending champion Novak Djokovic believes the blue tit that invaded his opening round Centre Court match was a good luck charm:
“From where I come from, from capital of Serbia, Belgrade, there's a special sparrow bird called jivjum. I believe this bird came all the way from Belgrade to help me.”
http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2015-07-04/quotes_of_the_championships_first_week.html?dm_i=2Q9C,14ZF,S06V2,2UD3,1
If Djokovic wins Wimbledon again this year, he will owe nothing to jivjums and everything to being the in-form player of the moment. This in turn may be something to do with his attitude developed in places like the local Buddhist temple.



“I try to put myself only in the present moment, not fight against the thoughts and the pressure and the excitement, but just acknowledge them and be aware of present thoughts but also try to keep my composure and calm,” the defending champion said. “I try to just be in the moment and enjoy.”

Djokovic is often regarded as one of the sport’s strongest players when it comes to mental toughness. It is a technique he has refined through meditation and, when he is at Wimbledon, he uses a nearby Buddhist temple as his refuge.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/wimbledon-2015-novak-djokovic-and-the-buddhist-temple-minutes-from-centre-court-that-helps-him-maintain-his-winning-ways-10366257.html
If ‘present thoughts’ turned momentarily to support from a friendly blue tit, they are surely somewhere very different now. Similarly a bird flitting about epitomizes the changing present moment, which means that when it does the opposite, it only epitomizes an old vinyl record stuck in the same groove.


How ‘very British’ they said. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/wimbledon-2015-blue-tit-steals-5969318

[Carmody]

What it really comes down to is that people don't understand that the voice in their head is a creation of the emotional centers of the hindbrain reactive bodily drive system, and is not the intellect itself.

It is an emotionally derived reactive reflection. Nothing more.

It is a largely autonomous body, a projected reflection... it's not a 'you' or an 'I'.

Until one deals with that head on, directly, and overcomes that influence, the circular logic and animal imposed limitation will remain as the projection of human life.

~~~~~~~~~~~~
Edit: Applying the above to MILAB considerations, consider that people can be programmed or hypnotized. That should ring some alarm bells at 1000%.

If the above were not true... then MILAB would simply.... not work. As people move into clarity, and begin to overcome -or move past- the autonomous ego function... MILAB begins to break down.

Make the logic connection. The idea of consciousness in this place is a historical projection/reflection of the coloration of the body/window.

One could say that... you may have more modes of expression and appear slightly more controlled than a one year old child. But that child, that form, that filter, is still in the drivers seat. Oh yes, 100% so.

For example, an isolated child, who heard no sounds, would not develop a voice in the head. They would mistake human voice for horrible convoluted natural noises. Voice is a creation of the reflection of complex data, as interpreted by the body. It comes from being around other people who also 'speak'.

At the age of approximately 5 years, when the human mind/brain grey stuff, is developed enough, the inner voice begins shaping itself (in most people). It is a high level meta program of the body ego drive and autonomous drive systems.... and as a creation of theirs, in neural passage and creation and flow, it has final say in all acts and all aspects of interpretation and coloration. As it is of them, it is theirs... it is one and the same. Just a high level meta program at the end of a stick, a stick which is of the trunk and roots.

Again, until humans grow, individually and collectively - past this point... this circular situation and limit ---will continue.

This stands alone, as the singular nut you have to crack, in order to move this planet along.

Everything else is just window dressing and/or avoidance tactics. Literally.

[araucaria]

Araucaria I do not wish to argue with you about it I believe Bill is wrong to rule out everything Corey says but who am I to give instructions to the great Bill RYAN
Indeed Bill Ryan is one of the greats opened by eyes a little some of the Project the Camelot videos were truly great ( a fan of Bod Deane )

:shielddeflect:
The difference between an argument and a discussion is that we bring concrete elements to the table that can be examined. One element is that ‘the great Bill Ryan’ can and does occasionally get things wrong. Another would be to see exactly how he might be wrong in this particular instance. I don’t see you doing much of that. Let me elaborate on what makes me think he is right here.

Things that happen to us in the outside world are there to help us assimilate the inner workings that we are not ‘getting’. Carmody has just described the inner handler we all have. If we don’t get that, then it will be externalized. Bill is saying that Corey has an external handler (FBI or whatever) who contaminates literally everything that he thinks or says. This includes disagreeing with Bill. Here is the perverse bit: the principle of possibly disagreeing with Bill is sound, if it means that you are beginning to think for yourself, for otherwise you would just be turning him into an unwitting handler of yours; but this advantage is lost and reversed if in so acting you are merely doing the bidding, or toeing the line, of the FBI.

On the other hand, it is possible to agree mostly with Bill while thinking for yourself, i.e. subject to personal examination and discernment; this is how a forum like Avalon brings together people ‘of like mind’. The same process is required however for disagreement as well. In other words, if you consider there is a baby in this bathwater, you would need to back up that claim by producing the baby. So far no one has done that or is likely to do so, and not for want of trying. Why? Because, as Bill emphasizes, everything from Corey is filtered and sanctioned by a handler. In other words, it is a waste of time thinking for oneself about material offered by someone who is not thinking for himself. Much better to build your thinking on solid ground.

[kirolak]

I am unfortunately biased against anyone who is a native speaker, but whose grammar and descriptive abilities are so poor. I know that it is neither fair nor logical, but I experience a sense of recoil against this sort of writing; regardless of the subject matter.

[bruno dante]

I am unfortunately biased against anyone who is a native speaker, but whose grammar and escriptive abilities are so poor. I know that it is neither fair nor logical, but I experience a sense of recoil against this sort of writing.


I don't think this is unreasonable. I feel basically the same.

My first thought about Corey was: who is this clown in the suit? He can't even spell! And this was before all the hoopla. I don't mean to sound cruel, but the juxtaposition between appearance and ability suggested smoke and mirrors all the way. I just could never take him seriously.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Then again, dyslexia is a real thing too. :p

I'm just saying there are better reasons to discard his material than that.

[Selene]

My first thought about Corey was: who is this clown in the suit? He can't even spell!

It may interest you to know that due to an injury Corey does not use a keyboard at all to post, but DragonVoice - a voice transcription software. DragonVoice is only 'okay' for transcription - it does make those common homophone mistakes of printing the wrong word to one that sounds the same or very similar, also elides spoken words into something other. This is what you are seeing.

Hope you can see and perceive beyond that.

Regards,

Selene

[bruno dante]

My first thought about Corey was: who is this clown in the suit? He can't even spell!

It may interest you to know that due to an injury Corey does not use a keyboard at all to post, but DragonVoice - a voice transcription software. DragonVoice is only 'okay' for transcription - it does make those common homophone mistakes of printing the wrong word to one that sounds the same or very similar, also elides spoken words into something other. This is what you are seeing.

Hope you can see and perceive beyond that.

Regards,

Selene


Thanks for pointing that out Selene. I appreciate it.

But it wasn't simply his spelling - it was his poor way of communicating and describing events and people and so forth. Before I knew any better, I thought he was basically a kid, a 20 or 21 year old guy. It had to be pointed out to me by a friend that he was actually a grown man.

As another poster pointed out, perhaps it is unfair to judge him by such criteria, but truthfully I can't help it. I just can't take him seriously...not as a whistleblower, not as a "milab", not as a CIA asset etc. I think we're all giving him way too much credit. It's surprising to me no one has suggested that maybe he's just a weird guy getting his rocks off by echoing other people's material and telling a bunch of lies. It would be really easy to do!;)

[Bill Ryan]

DragonVoice is only 'okay' for transcription - it does make those common homophone mistakes of printing the wrong word to one that sounds the same or very similar, also elides spoken words into something other. This is what you are seeing.


[Mod hat off]

Yes. Someone should really also report the bug to DragonVoice where "the software" evidently always inserts "inverted commas" in "all the wrong places".

[DeDukshyn]

My first thought about Corey was: who is this clown in the suit? He can't even spell!

It may interest you to know that due to an injury Corey does not use a keyboard at all to post, but DragonVoice - a voice transcription software. DragonVoice is only 'okay' for transcription - it does make those common homophone mistakes of printing the wrong word to one that sounds the same or very similar, also elides spoken words into something other. This is what you are seeing.

Hope you can see and perceive beyond that.

Regards,

Selene


Thanks for pointing that out Selene. I appreciate it.

But it wasn't simply his spelling - it was his poor way of communicating and describing events and people and so forth. Before I knew any better, I thought he was basically a kid, a 20 or 21 year old guy. It had to be pointed out to me by a friend that he was actually a grown man.

As another poster pointed out, perhaps it is unfair to judge him by such criteria, but truthfully I can't help it. I just can't take him seriously...not as a whistleblower, not as a "milab", not as a CIA asset etc. I think we're all giving him way too much credit. It's surprising to me no one has suggested that maybe he's just a weird guy getting his rocks off by echoing other people's material and telling a bunch of lies. It would be really easy to do!;)

I can do that for you if you like ;)

What I noticed with Corey was a change. I rather liked many of his posts a few years back, not just with the "like" button, but I thought he was likely an ok guy. Something happened at some point and I went from being rather indifferent to him, to getting that feeling that I didn't like him or the info he was spreading, not that I thought he was out and out lying, I didn't analyze anything that far, but I just got this vibe that some people tend to produce in me. To me his whole, aura and tone had changed completely; suddenly he was arrogant and "in control" - the human side was gone as far as I was concerned, so I stayed out of his threads.

Nearing the end of his membership here, I do recall giving him the benefit of the doubt and asked him quite a specific question on one of his "ask me questions" threads. His response to me was to tell me to listen to the interview, and go to his blog and read through everything, and I would find my answers, and that I shouldn't rely too much on my own info. I listened to the interview, I checked his blog, and there was no info relating to the question I had asked him. I have always been polite to Corey, but I have no use for him or any of his info. It just never resonated with me at all and felt very "agenda-ish", and this would be after I noticed an apparent change in him.

[grannyfranny100]

TPTB likes to conduct marketing studies. The flat earth videos were a test run that was a failure. It didn't capture the imagination of the masses.

Corey is another marketing test, a human being to be dropped whenever they confirm which concepts capture what percentage of the mainstream. He is getting his 15 minutes of fame and his true blue supporters will be learning a painful lesson in discernment. For those who have watched a parade of gurus over the years, they have learned more about their discernment. They pick and choose what rings true and get on with their lives.

Without a pastor or priest to tells us what to believe, learning discernment is tough but important. It is very helpful to have a forum to keep refining one's discernment.

[araucaria]

DragonVoice is only 'okay' for transcription - it does make those common homophone mistakes of printing the wrong word to one that sounds the same or very similar, also elides spoken words into something other. This is what you are seeing.


[Mod hat off]

Yes. Someone should really also report the bug to DragonVoice where "the software" evidently always inserts "inverted commas" in "all the wrong places".
If the systematic combination of various kinds of emphasis (bold, underlining, coloured, highlighting, italics) is another DragonVoice bug, then I might need to make an apology for something I posted a while back. However, they can all be deactivated with a single keystroke on a Word file, and that is something I personally would have done.

[kirolak]

Thank you for pointing this out, Selene, I was also not aware of his problem in communicating; but I still feel there is something not right about any of it, although I would LOVE it to be true, as the premise is very exciting. And basically, I feel Bruno Dante is correct in his reading.

Does anyone have access to DragonVoice to alert them to their bugs? I have never heard of them before :)

[Bill Ryan]

Does anyone have access to DragonVoice to alert them to their bugs? I have never heard of them before :)

That was a joke. :) Of course, there's no such bug. The inverted commas idiosyncrasy is Corey, via his own fingers on the keyboard.

[Mod hat back on, before I say too much more]

:focus:

[araucaria]

Does anyone have access to DragonVoice to alert them to their bugs? I have never heard of them before :)

That was a joke. :) Of course, there's no such bug. The inverted commas idiosyncrasy is Corey, via his own fingers on the keyboard.

[Mod hat back on, before I say too much more]

:focus:

Then I won't apologize - but my willingness to do so is no joke.

[Pam]

My first thought about Corey was: who is this clown in the suit? He can't even spell!

It may interest you to know that due to an injury Corey does not use a keyboard at all to post, but DragonVoice - a voice transcription software. DragonVoice is only 'okay' for transcription - it does make those common homophone mistakes of printing the wrong word to one that sounds the same or very similar, also elides spoken words into something other. This is what you are seeing.

Hope you can see and perceive beyond that.

Regards,

Selene


Thanks for pointing that out Selene. I appreciate it.

But it wasn't simply his spelling - it was his poor way of communicating and describing events and people and so forth. Before I knew any better, I thought he was basically a kid, a 20 or 21 year old guy. It had to be pointed out to me by a friend that he was actually a grown man.

As another poster pointed out, perhaps it is unfair to judge him by such criteria, but truthfully I can't help it. I just can't take him seriously...not as a whistleblower, not as a "milab", not as a CIA asset etc. I think we're all giving him way too much credit. It's surprising to me no one has suggested that maybe he's just a weird guy getting his rocks off by echoing other people's material and telling a bunch of lies. It would be really easy to do!;)



I could also envision a sociopath doing this kind of thing. After all, nothing can be verified. Much easier to make up this kind of story then saying you are under cover with the CIA, for instance. So the only way to verify anything is to look at what parts you can check out, which is the individual telling the story and the way he/she behaves.

[Siren Master]

I've been following Corey and haven't made up my mind. I am starting to have some thoughts though:

1) Again, the planetary outsiders supposedly know more about us than we know ourselves..we can't handle the full truth? Sorry, that's an old argument that still makes no sense. Like we CAN handle the suffering that exists on the planet already? Irks me tremendously.

2) No excuses for messing with his family. If the spheres can't protect him and family, then be done with them. Move on. NO chances, no excuses. You will only be as strong as the weakest link and they flippin' broke the chain.

[Aspen]

I remember Corey often said that we need to be running this information through our discernment filters, like a warning to us. Maybe he is being used for some type of military agenda? I think people like him and Captain Kaye are being used to run experimental programs on us, to see what will capture the attention of the masses. It is likely some kind of means of control. Sphere beings and blue avians are likely some type of creation that someone is trying to get us to look to as Savior Beings. I don't think they are out for the long term good of the masses anymore than the BRICS is. It is all most likely a means of controlling the masses and harnessing the energy that we innately possess. Perhaps Corey is being forced into this or perhaps he likes the fame???? Who knows what the motivations are . . . .

[quiltinggrandma]

thank you nam,,i have only been a member for about a year myself,,,,i thank you for keeping me level-and i hope you love it here like i do-most of these people are awesome.....happy trails

[Harley]

But it wasn't simply his spelling - it was his poor way of communicating and describing events and people and so forth. […] As another poster pointed out, perhaps it is unfair to judge him by such criteria, but truthfully I can't help it. I just can't take him seriously...not as a whistleblower, not as a "milab", not as a CIA asset etc.

While I can certainly understand where you're coming from, you must also be cautious not to limit your ability to receive new and possibly important information.

I would venture to say that a high percentage of insiders, whistleblowers, and witnesses are not adept in public speaking or writing, and especially so with the more technical “hands-on” people. But it is indeed from these people you can obtain some of the most valid information. If you can just get them to talk.

Take a look at my membership-to-total posts ratio here and then re-read what I quoted at the beginning of this post. Are you beginning to form a picture here? With close to 40 years experience – from the Air Force working in Top Secret Aerospace Communications Systems Technology to the Military/Industrial Complex working in SAPS and USAPS (Unacknowledged Special Access Programs), or “The Black Hole” as we like to call them – my technical skills and abilities put me in positions and places which were nothing short of amazing. But I can guarantee you that there was never any focus on learning to write or speak in public, and in-fact it was quite the opposite. So it is for this reason I refuse to set myself up for ridicule.

As far as Goode goes, I don't know him, I've never talked to him, and when his stories began evolving wildly from the Space Fleet and Mars Bases, etc I haven't followed him. Just way too far out there for me. Even with all my experience I have yet to have a Blue Bird talk to me. (Sorry. Bad joke) :)

Oh, one other thing. With all of this amazing story that he continues to spew out there, I have to comment (based on my own personal experience):

Because of the Need To Know restrictions when working within classified programs, no ONE/SINGLE Individual can possibly know more than that which pertains to his/her assigned task.

This policy is strictly adhered to by everyone. So with that in mind one has to question where this ONE/SINGLE Individual obtained all of this detailed information? And why?

I don't know, but from my point of view I kind of feel like there was a kind of “Probing” going on here, among other things.

[RUSirius]

I dont see how "we" can be test subjects for how the rest of the world might respond to Corey's type of information, outside of Avalon and a few other forums "we" are definitely the few on this planet as far as digesting this type of info goes. Especially since "we" have been down the road of serious disinformation agents many times. I dont think when it comes to processing Coreys type of information that the rest of the world would follow the same vetting process that goes on here. I'm not saying that we are information "zen" masters and cant be phased, but I'm pretty damn sure the rest of the uninformed public will not respond like we do. With this forum, as stupid as this may sound, I honestly dont understand the importance of all this disinformation projected our way, its like a game for children, maybe its intention is to produce frustration, again a game for children. IMHO.

[Jake]

I dont see how "we" can be test subjects for how the rest of the world might respond to Corey's type of information, outside of Avalon and a few other forums "we" are definitely the few on this planet as far as digesting this type of info goes. Especially since "we" have been down the road of serious disinformation agents many times. I dont think when it comes to processing Coreys type of information that the rest of the world would follow the same vetting process that goes on here. I'm not saying that we are information "zen" masters and cant be phased, but I'm pretty damn sure the rest of the uninformed public will not respond like we do. With this forum, as stupid as this may sound, I honestly dont understand the importance of all this disinformation projected our way, its like a game for children, maybe its intention is to produce frustration, again a game for children. IMHO.

Somehow, -we- shed layers of ignorance and embraced a new paradigm where personal sovereignty and strength in community supercede the impact of the lies and treachery of the psychopaths who mean to rule us.. -we- push forward and forge a path that is dangerous to their criminal agendas... -we- shine lights in places where darkness has seemed to take over...

If they can figure out what makes us tick,, then they can plot to subvert all of that with other outlets... -we- are the perfect scenario for a psy-op...

I personally believe that these psychopaths have no idea what to look for.. The new sovereign mind that we are embracing is foriegn to them. They don't know it... To me, they are like the monkey people in 2001 a space odessy,,, and -we- are the obelisk. We have presented a model that represents a challenge to them,,, especially if it catches on...

This is what I learned through direct experience and hard times, and the willingness to work on myself, and embrace the changes... With inward communion and shedding layers and hard work and love and empathy and community,,, we take back our birthright!! Or, we wait for the bird people to save us!

love to all,
Jake

Jake

[RUSirius]

I dont see how "we" can be test subjects for how the rest of the world might respond to Corey's type of information, outside of Avalon and a few other forums "we" are definitely the few on this planet as far as digesting this type of info goes. Especially since "we" have been down the road of serious disinformation agents many times. I dont think when it comes to processing Coreys type of information that the rest of the world would follow the same vetting process that goes on here. I'm not saying that we are information "zen" masters and cant be phased, but I'm pretty damn sure the rest of the uninformed public will not respond like we do. With this forum, as stupid as this may sound, I honestly dont understand the importance of all this disinformation projected our way, its like a game for children, maybe its intention is to produce frustration, again a game for children. IMHO.

Somehow, -we- shed layers of ignorance and embraced a new paradigm where personal sovereignty and strength in community supercede the impact of the lies and treachery of the psychopaths who mean to rule us.. -we- push forward and forge a path that is dangerous to their criminal agendas... -we- shine lights in places where darkness has seemed to take over...

If they can figure out what makes us tick,, then they can plot to subvert all of that with other outlets... -we- are the perfect scenario for a psy-op...

I personally believe that these psychopaths have no idea what to look for.. The new sovereign mind that we are embracing is foriegn to them. They don't know it... To me, they are like the monkey people in 2001 a space odessy,,, and -we- are the obelisk. We have presented a model that represents a challenge to them,,, especially if it catches on...

This is what I learned through direct experience and hard times, and the willingness to work on myself, and embrace the changes... With inward communion and shedding layers and hard work and love and empathy and community,,, we take back our birthright!! Or, we wait for the bird people to save us!

love to all,
Jake

Jake

Hey, I've got no problem with bird people, frog people, whatever if they want to help. Thank you for your perspective, I actually think your statement about our new mind being foreign to them is a brilliant thought and does explain much. Sometimes it just seems like the stupid ones are trying to play games with the bright ones, when from my perspective (and probably yours) these games are such a waste of our time. Dont you think these info controllers know that some of us on these forums can handle whats going on? Unless we are kidding ourselves and actual truth is more of a mind F then we know right now. (no offense meant to bird or frog people)

[Jake]

Hey, I've got no problem with bird people, frog people, whatever if they want to help.

Ha. Made me smile,, touche... :)

Jake

[3(C)+me]

Sometimes it just seems like the stupid ones are trying to play games with the bright ones, when from my perspective (and probably yours) these games are such a waste of our time. Dont you think these info controllers know that some of us on these forums can handle whats going on? Unless we are kidding ourselves and actual truth is more of a mind F then we know right now. (no offense meant to bird or frog people)

I don't think this is all this BS is a waste of time, here's why. We as a people (well, Americans) are not taught to think things out, critical thinking to see if this argument has merit or is untrue or if this guy/gal has another hidden agenda. We are taught just take everything we hear as true (MSM). Please Do Not look behind the Curtain. This forum has taught me how to see a person's argument and not just take it at face value to take it apart with the community here all adding bits and pieces together, at the end of a thread I pretty much have an idea what is going on and I surely see why there may be other reasons for this person coming forward to enlighten us (John Lash thread). This forum is closed enough that the trolls can't come in and take over (THANK YOU MODS YOU DO A GREAT JOB).
The new members (I was one once) who just got on the train and have no idea the other aspects of the game and can go down some very dark dead ends and get lost, confused and come out with I don't know what to think, it saves time. These threads can be upsetting because a person might want to desperately believe what this guy says is true and feelings get hurt, people get upset. Beliefs, strongly held ones die an ugly death sometimes.
If they attempt to have blue birds, green snakes, yellow people saying " we are from the planet peace and love and have come to help you", this forum is going to be all over it.

[RUSirius]

Sometimes it just seems like the stupid ones are trying to play games with the bright ones, when from my perspective (and probably yours) these games are such a waste of our time. Dont you think these info controllers know that some of us on these forums can handle whats going on? Unless we are kidding ourselves and actual truth is more of a mind F then we know right now. (no offense meant to bird or frog people)

I don't think this is all this BS is a waste of time, here's why. We as a people (well, Americans) are not thought to think things out, critical thinking to see if this argument has merit or is untrue or if this guy/gal has another hidden agenda. We are taught just take everything we hear as true (MSM). Please Do Not look behind the Curtain. This forum has been taught me how to see a person's argument and not just take it at face value to take it apart with the community here all adding bit and pieces together, at the end of a thread I pretty much have an idea what is going on and I surely see why there may be other reasons for this person coming forward to enlighten us (John Lash thread). This forum is closed enough that the trolls can't come in and take over (THANK YOU MODS YOU DO A GREAT JOB).
The new members (I was one once) who just got on the train and have no idea the other aspects of the game and can go down some very dark dead ends and get lost, confused and come out with I don't know what to think, it saves time. These threads can be upsetting because a person might want to desperately believe what this guy says is true and feelings get hurt, people get upset. Beliefs, strongly held ones die an ugly death sometimes.
If they attempt to have blue birds, green snakes, yellow people saying " we are from the planet peace and love and have come to help you", this forum is going to be all over it.

Absolutely

[RUSirius]

What I think about with all this though, is much of what Corey says may be true, space colonies, manufacturing, a race of blue avians etc., or whatever race it might be, even if he does not have any first hand experience with it/them and its all being fed to him. Its the part about the cohesive plan to free us which is all too familiar of a story that does not resonate with me. And in regards to the first sentence of space colonies and manufacturing and whatever races may be out there, the only reason I say it may be true is because its not a stretch of the imagination to think these things are going on in places around the vast seas of space and probably closer than that regardless of the Corey story being what it is.

[WhiteLove]

I am a regular reader of David's blog where he posts interesting articles. In fact I find David to be an incredible story teller, he is born to tell stories, it is in his blood.

His latest story about his latest insider touring Mars I must admit though I was not able to ever complete reading that article (I've made several attempts at it), because already when I read the title of that article I was in doubt. In fact I become doubtful when authors need to provide great content and bring in new insiders that tell fantasy stuff. I am not saying that this is the case with his latest article, but it is a great stretch for me. I have never found David to be uncaring about credibility etc. but to me as a story teller it appears that he relays a lot, which means it might or might not be true, totally depending on who the source happens to be.

But I love what David is doing, it's free content (almost), it's great for awakening and great story telling is great story telling.

Please share some of your thoughts on his latest article.

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/1181-mars-tour

[Zionbrion]

There is a very long ongoing thread on this here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83133-The-Corey-Goode-affair-various-updates-from-David-Wilcock
My opinion on it can be summed up with a emoji. :bs:

[WhiteLove]

There is a very long ongoing thread on this here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83133-The-Corey-Goode-affair-various-updates-from-David-Wilcock
My opinion on it can be summed up with a emoji. :bs:

Wow, thanks!

[Hervé]

[...]
Please share some of your thoughts on his latest article.

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/1181-mars-tour

Hi WhiteLove, I merged your recent thread with this pre-existing one :)

Cheers!

[Bill Ryan]

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A highly respected, long-standing member wrote a couple of days ago to myself and the other mods privately asking that we might do a little more to constrain what they called "Corey bashing" on the forum.

I have just replied, and after a moment's thought I figured that my response might also be helpful to be shared here.






Thanks for your care :sun: — I'm assuming you also must have written to Corey quite a while back to ask him to please stop the Avalon- and Bill-Ryan-bashing (which was more than 'bashing', of course: it was a daily toxic offensive of malevolent lies and vitriol). Assuming you wrote to him, too, it's a shame he never paid any attention to you.

The truth about Corey is now emerging, and there's not much we can do about that, even if we wanted to suppress anything. By and large, the Avalon members have simply been sharing their ever-growing concerns and doubts: there's nothing on the forum I've seen recently that's cruel, untrue, or unkind.

It's just the way it is, and Corey, to a large degree, has simply been making his own bed with a continual array of rather bad choices. Most of those watching, far smarter than he might think they are, can see them quite clearly.

More and more is emerging all the time, and our job — and I think we agree on this — is principally to watch, and record it for the annals as his self-constructed edifice steadily falls apart.

One can have empathy for a wounded soul who is certainly being controlled and used to a very large degree (whether he realizes it or not) — but that doesn't mean that the actions that wounded soul takes are ethical or acceptable.

We all have a duty of care not to hurt one another if at all possible. In that respect, Corey is on his journey of learning, as we all are, but he may have a very long way to go, indeed.

[DeDukshyn]

Very well said Bill. At the same time, this thread does feel a tiny bit "Witch hunt-ish" now that we have drilled into some details and most are on the same page. And since that is my opinion, I will be signing off from this thread, but may peek in to see what might be brewing a little later down the road ... :)

[amor]

Ditto Ditto!

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Love that flower!

[regnak]

I think the Corey bashing should stop . Corey might be dyslexic or have trouble spelling or grammar errors no one is perfect we all have flaws and weakness .

While I personal never took much notice of his posts Sphere-Being Alliance and Blue Avians were and still are beyond my understanding although I have a interest in secret space programs and star gates.

I know there was a huge fall out between Avalon and Corey be the better man in this :popcorn:

[Innocent Warrior]

Honestly, I think we, as a whole, still lack the compassion required to achieve the enormous tasks we have taken on. Source is unconditionally loving, without exception. Coming down to the dualistic level of reality now, with that in mind, if darkness were to prevail, we'd have to face the fact that the dark ones were better at enslaving humanity than we were at liberating ourselves.

Biologically speaking, fear leads to our death and love puts us in a state of growth, humans are light beings. We are the light, humans are light beings, here lies our advantage. Love is key, compassion cannot be lacking if we are to prevail.

I have compassion in my heart but a fierce loyalty and indignation in my mind, a conflict apparent in some of my posts. I'm looking at my posts, concerning Corey (who I don't see as dark, that would require his free will, in full awareness) and the compassion in my heart is not apparent. So let me say this; make me your enemy if you wish, but you will never be mine, I have no enemies. If I have some truth to contribute then I will, it is not personal. Prove me wrong if I am and I will adjust my view accordingly.

I don't see Corey bashing here, I see a bunch of great people honouring the truth, as they see it. Considering the seriousness of the challenges we face, I think we're doing pretty great with compassion, but not there just yet, myself included. A bitter pill to swallow, we give so much, but if we want freedom there are no shortcuts, no excuses.

[Becky]

Honestly, I think we, as a whole, still lack the compassion required to achieve the enormous tasks we have taken on. Source is unconditionally loving, without exception. Coming down to the dualistic level of reality now, with that in mind, if darkness were to prevail, we'd have to face the fact that the dark ones were better at enslaving humanity than we were at liberating ourselves.

Biologically speaking, fear leads to our death and love puts us in a state of growth, humans are light beings. We are the light, humans are light beings, here lies our advantage. Love is key, compassion cannot be lacking if we are to prevail.

I have compassion in my heart but a fierce loyalty and indignation in my mind, a conflict apparent in some of my posts. I'm looking at my posts, concerning Corey (who I don't see as dark, that would require his free will, in full awareness) and the compassion in my heart is not apparent. So let me say this; make me your enemy if you wish, but you will never be mine, I have no enemies. If I have some truth to contribute then I will, it is not personal. Prove me wrong if I am and I will adjust my view accordingly.

I don't see Corey bashing here, I see a bunch of great people honouring the truth, as they see it. Considering the seriousness of the challenges we face, I think we're doing pretty great with compassion, but not there just yet, myself included. A bitter pill to swallow, we give so much, but if we want freedom there are no shortcuts, no excuses.

Beautifully written Innocent Warrior - I share these sentiments.

[regnak]

Great post Innocent Warrior

I disagree only on one point there has been a lot of Corey bashing my job is not to defend him but to try to put a stop to it. It is not good to destroy some one even if they or wrong or misguided.

be the better man

make peace not war
I say close this thread

[grannyfranny100]

jonsnow, I don't agree unless another thread is started to discuss how Corey's information and approach helped each of us to better understand discernment. None of this "it resonated with me" stuff. What were the red flags that caught your attention?

Frankly I haven't followed this closely. I was greatly influenced by the battles before he left, the fact that he lacked the leadership command to keep his wife under control during the second interview, that he was threatening PA that he was negotiating with others while presenting such confidential information to the PA membership at large for back up of his position.

His personal behavior conflicted with the material he supposably gained from "high powered" resume with a time frame that seemed short for someone to achieve so many experiences. His claim to be an intuitive when his concluding months indicated a lack of intuitive insight and negotiating skills during the disputes while claiming that could "intuitively read" non earth representatives at meetings where he lacked the experience attendant to a high rank that he lacked. Posts that lacked any hint of military objective report writing that would indicate the ability to organize his reports with succinct data. This was followed by posts written in a style in keeping with a rough draft for a science fiction fantasy short story.

I stopped reading but occasionally would browse some posts. There were many members who followed his posts and brought up questions about the substance of his posts. They were carefully following his posts and giving him the benefit of doubt. Each person was giving him a chance given their own personal perspective and life experience. I would love to hear what others were observing that were red flags for their discernment. It would be an education for all of us.

[Lost N Found]

Bill, I just jumped back in here, I have been watching this Corey fellow lately on so many other places but mostly on the Divine Cosmos, well a number of other places also. I did read a very interesting write up you did on the Bradley Loves site. Well anyway, this Corey fellow I remember was on the project avalon forum way back in 2011 or 2012. And right about then is When that Drake guy started up his show on Universal voice or some such. Well then some other forum came into existence called Freedom Reigns I believe So Corey showed up there and did alot of talking and I did find out that he was a Veteran maybe Army or some such down in Texas. So Just remembering this guy from way back then and now he seems to be pushing himself off as some alien contact. I think what you are saying is good and yes, we all have to be conscious about what is going on around us and yes Corey, hopefully will find a way to deal with whatever pain may be causing him to do what he is doing. Thank you for being grounded.

[regnak]

...My first thought about Corey was: who is this clown in the suit? He can't even spell! And this was before all the hoopla. I don't mean to sound cruel, but the juxtaposition between appearance and ability suggested smoke and mirrors all the way. I just could never take him seriously.





Does anyone have access to DragonVoice to alert them to their bugs? I have never heard of them before :)

That was a joke. :) Of course, there's no such bug. The inverted commas idiosyncrasy is Corey, via his own fingers on the keyboard.

[Mod hat back on, before I say too much more]

:focus:





DragonVoice is only 'okay' for transcription - it does make those common homophone mistakes of printing the wrong word to one that sounds the same or very similar, also elides spoken words into something other. This is what you are seeing.


[Mod hat off]

Yes. Someone should really also report the bug to DragonVoice where "the software" evidently always inserts "inverted commas" in "all the wrong places".




-------

A highly respected, long-standing member wrote a couple of days ago to myself and the other mods privately asking that we might do a little more to constrain what they called "Corey bashing" on the forum.

I have just replied, and after a moment's thought I figured that my response might also be helpful to be shared here.



Thanks for your care http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/smilies/0802%20Sun.gif — I'm assuming you also must have written to Corey quite a while back to ask him to please stop the Avalon- and Bill-Ryan-bashing (which was more than 'bashing', of course: it was a daily toxic offensive of malevolent lies and vitriol). Assuming you wrote to him, too, it's a shame he never paid any attention to you.

The truth about Corey is now emerging, and there's not much we can do about that, even if we wanted to suppress anything. By and large, the Avalon members have simply been sharing their ever-growing concerns and doubts: there's nothing on the forum I've seen recently that's cruel, untrue, or unkind.

It's just the way it is, and Corey, to a large degree, has simply been making his own bed with a continual array of rather bad choices. Most of those watching, far smarter than he might think they are, can see them quite clearly.

More and more is emerging all the time, and our job — and I think we agree on this — is principally to watch, and record it for the annals as his self-constructed edifice steadily falls apart.

One can have empathy for a wounded soul who is certainly being controlled and used to a very large degree (whether he realizes it or not) — but that doesn't mean that the actions that wounded soul takes are ethical or acceptable.

We all have a duty of care not to hurt one another if at all possible. In that respect, Corey is on his journey of learning, as we all are, but he may have a very long way to go, indeed.



Has Avalon lost its way I do not agree with Corey on most of what he says but his recent treatment has been appalling here where are the mods there has been a falling out between Avalon and Corey and there are hard feelings on both sides but this has to stop I tried not to go looking for evidence and I asked for this thread to be closed to put it to bed .

Is it Avalon mission to destroy someone because there has been a disagreement we all have our journey mocking someone is unacceptable especially by Bill Ryan founder of Avalon and Camelot who indeed I see as a great teacher leader of the future . Corey has no defensive here sad really.

I have asked Bill Ryan to be the better man in this

I say close this thread :blackwidow:

[araucaria]

jonsnow, you have made the same point three times now, when Bill has already made his response. Since it is peace you want, I would humbly suggest you hold yours; you cannot impose peace, it has to be brought peaceably. Peace on Avalon also comes through relative newcomers (and others as well) trusting the forum owner to know what he's doing rather than repeatedly telling him he's wrong, which is something Corey was rather good at.

[regnak]

Bill has yet to reply

Bill might be right or wrong about Corey honestly I do not care
My comments are to stop the mocking of a ex-member of this forum who is unable to defend himself

is there mods on Avalon
is this acceptable here

[araucaria]

Bill has yet to reply

Bill might be right or wrong about Corey honestly I do not care

Bill has made his statement above; that is all we need and I expect it is all you are going to get.

Unlike you, I personally care a great deal about this. What you don't seem to be getting (or maybe you are) is that the purpose of this campaign has been to discredit Bill and ultimately take down this forum. That is the totally unacceptable aim that you are contributing towards. Either this is involuntary on your part, in which case please stop, or it is deliberate, in which case please go away.

[Agape]

Peace comes through understanding ..

if you look to the Camelot Archives : http://projectcamelot.org/index1.html

or Mikes Salla Exopolitical Examiner : http://exopolitics.org/papers/examiner-exonews/

you would find two kinds of reports and information : type one from people who have actually been somewhere ( on mission, in space , pilots , doing their job in the field , it does not really matter ) and seen something ( unusual ) or experienced it in another way and they ( we ) care to report .

Type two seems to come from/with people whose past and credentials are rather obscure or say, irrelevant but they seemed to have spent long time home thinking ..
but they come 'to report' fabulous, fantastic stories of meeting with ETs, hundreds of space races , colonies on all planets of this solar system and other type of 'material' that either exist only in someones dreams and phantasies , or .. perhaps,
as they claim , in another reality , unavailable to humans .
Both is possible .

However .. it is slightly dangerous where credibility and accuracy is concerned to mix type 1 and type 2 of witnesses , namely because type 2 tend to borrow lots of 'dreams' and ideas from type 1 and virtually, any information source they encounter .

Type 2 often claim starry jobs with either space or civil agencies ( again, 'dream' borrowed from people who had actually been there and happened to be successful on their jobs ? ) that has no traceable record .
Even Ed Snowden has one .

Yes it's true that people who are uncomfortable with any regime are often forcibly 'disappeared' and disposed of silently ,
that's why keeping safe is important .

Back to your type 1 and 2 witnesses . By no means I mean to attack or discredit all '2's .
To be utterly honest .. and from what /whom I've met over the years in both spiritual and civil life circles ,
pure '2's are very rare and totally otherworldly creatures who may require to be handled in unique ways .
However, on contrary to peoples common convictions and understanding here , 'pure 2s' aren't either easily influenceable by anything ( and anyone , they refuse to be so in order to protect their information and sanity , and they seldom care if you consider them credible or not ) and I speak of people ( entities ) who are fiercely authentic ..
and no , you have nothing to fear from them unless you have deceptive layers to shed .
Because then , they will either ignore you or attack you for no visible reason, in ways that are harmless mostly in order to get you away from their presence .
Because 'pure2s' hate fabricated personalities and lies .

These types - and when it comes to communication with ETs - are mostly interested in what they do and do it full speed , can be very geeky or very spiritual , both or neither but there are items most despise of .. hard human emotions for example,
stupidity and violence , ignorance painted of human faces , I'd not see that 'type2s' would have any more respect for any political figures, leaders or authorities more than they have for their girlfriends .


Of course , there are more types , quote Michal Salla for example and other researchers , type3 . Type 3s are very intelligent and spend lives balancing themselves somewhere on the edge .
With artistic skills of musicians and ballerinas they refuse to fall on either side of the fence , or get too dirty .
They may come to some excellent and pretty original observations of their own ..

trying to make 'sense of everything' at the same time does only make sense to themselves, however and their lack of certainty and liberty of 'opinion' can be misguiding to their audience .

...

The thing is ... until people , say due to their missing expertise and scientific overview believe things such as quoted in OP of this thread , they're happy to believe anyone who says so , CG ( CG , right ) is far from the first or last with such claims and/but it does not make them real .
I don't know 'how it comes' and why certain people are ready to believe such things, if it's because they did not spend time enough in schools , laboratories , never took part of research projects , so they're not familiar with the atmosphere, environment and protocols and think there's something 'clandestine' and 'fantastic' going on behind all those doors ,
yes there is . It's just not allowed to go over anyones head really .


Close the topic, by all means please :inlove: But someone will start new one about it ..

it's part of the silly game you think you're playing .. game with threads , and topics . And people ..

:Music:

[regnak]

araucaria I quite like Bill Ryan who I see as one of the great teachers . I was asked to stop so I will leave this thread.

My intent was not to harm Avalon which is a great place to be

[Bill Ryan]

I would love to hear what others were observing that were red flags for their discernment. It would be an education for all of us.

That's an important and intelligent question. It can be applied to every situation in which we find ourselves where we're presented with information that may be not be easy to evaluate.

The intelligence services use this well-tried system:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_source_and_information_reliability

http://projectavalon.net/Source_reliability_and_Information_reliability.gif


That's a pretty useful thinking tool. It's objective (it has to be), and from an intelligence analysis point of view, is independent of irrelevant subjective factors such as whether a source is difficult to work with, or whether or not they're likeable as an individual.

In there, at the end, of course, there's a human evaluation which is at least subjective to a degree. To set the cat well among the pigeons, and to offer a few examples, I'd offer these personal assessments:



Corey Goode: E4
David Wilcock: C3
Michael Salla: B3

(and while on the subject of Mars and the Secret Space Program)


Andy Basiago: C4
Randy Cramer: E4
Henry Deacon (Arthur Neumann): A2
Bill Deagle: A2
Jay Weidner: A2
Steven Greer: D2
Alfred Webre: D4


(And finally, to set the bar — discuss :) )

Linda Moulton Howe: A1
Rich Dolan: A1
Richard Hoagland: B2
Bob Dean: A2
Kerry Cassidy: B2
Bill Ryan: A2



Re Linda/Rich/Richard/Bob/Kerry/myself, some of the disparity in rating is accounted for by the nature of the material those six are willing to consider/explore/discuss.

[Fiberglut]

Thanks Bill, that helps put things into perspective.

[TODD & NORA]

..........

[TODD & NORA]

..........

[Bill Ryan]

Solid assessment of those listed above...here a couple more to add to the list:

Inelia Benz - B2
Miriam Delicado - A2

Yes. Two more for the list (at opposite extremes):

Joseph Farrell: A2
Drake: E5

[gripreaper]

And gripreaper A1, always humble, never verbose, somewhat humorous and irreverent, yet always entertaining! :)

[Agape]

Well, the sarcasm of our times is ..that the same 'intelligence services' whose table you use would probably put all of those named to the lowest 2 categories ( unreliable and /or can not be judged ) once the named have any association with UFO/ET claims and agendas .

Though , I suspect those affiliated with the 'black side' of mind controls and intelligence have few more under scores that go deep to minus ..

starting from ..0...ignore , ignore , ignore .

-1 ... ridicule covertly whenever suitable

-2 ... ridicule openly

-3 ...provoke and target

-4 ... weapon use solicited

and so forth.

Pardon my humour .


:flower:;)

[heyokah]

And gripreaper A1, always humble, never verbose, somewhat humorous and irreverent, yet always entertaining! :)

:thumbsup:

I almost spat my coffee over my keyboard LOL

[PathWalker]

If we agree the Corey Goode is controlled agent by will or not.
Then his information is analysed accordingly.
There are some truth nuggets in his information also vetted by Michael Salla.
So I wish to ascend beyond the bashing and as a community find what we can gain from this information.
I believe the following:
1. Colonies on Mars exist (from more then one source).
2. The colonies are run by slaves.
3. Many SSP factions.
4. No distinct leader/winner for total control drama.
5. The source of authority is fear and terror.

[Olaf]

How does it effect the ranking of a A2 person, when he/she has promoted a source, that obtaind a ranking of only E4?

[Octavusprime]

How does it effect the ranking of a A2 person, when he/she has promoted a source, that obtaind a ranking of only E4?

I would say that if the A2 person kept promoting an E4 source after the E4 status was known then that said person would lose credibility. Those with less than stellar reliability scores are intentionally deceptive or extremely naive. We all have had the wool pulled over our eyes. It all comes down to having the ability to recognizing deception then having the integrity to do something about it.

[Agape]

How does it effect the ranking of a A2 person, when he/she has promoted a source, that obtaind a ranking of only E4?

Goes the basement :bigsmile: After gaining some notoriety for reporting E4s however , A2 might be promoted as head of criminal department nevertheless ..

[3(C)+me]

Micheal Tsarion A1
plus he is Irish and kinda cute;)


David Wilcock is fine as long as he sticks to the studies on the field and it's implications for humanity but when he goes far a field with this or that insider it get's a bit dicey.

[Savannah]

I am new to Avalon and I would like to thank those who have contributed to this thread. I was not part of Avalon when the conflict with Corey was unfolding. I was reading about him on Wilcock, Stillness, Sphere Beings sites etc. The information he presents is very dramatic and if true has significant ramifications for all humanity. To determine if it is false is extremely important as well. If this is a psy op, which I felt it was even before I read this thread, the information on this thread is invaluable to help people make their own decisions. I am capable of reading pros and cons and making up my own mind. No one is “bashing” Cory here, they are providing their perspective on what happened and that is invaluable information. To sensor information because others have labeled it politically incorrect, not nice or not light worker friendly is a manipulative tool people on Avalon are far too smart to fall for. I appreciate the freedom to express my opinions, positive or negative on this site. I also appreciate that if I do that I will be expected to provide an intelligent argument as to why I have taken either perspective and will support my opinions with facts, experiences, citations etc. to the extent possible given the information we are dealing with. So again, if Corey is not being based, but analyzed to assist in our collective discernment, I say thank you, bring it on!
On May 30th I posted on the Cory/Wilcock material but I didn’t use their names directly. At that time I had not read this thread or info from The Ruiner. I’m re-posting it here because it reveals my opinion about his info.

I have accepted three possible truths, First t there is a Cabal, secondly they are controlled by Alien races that exert influence on earth. Lastly, that galactic changes are occurring most likely in a predictive cycle that currently is different from previous, Dark-Golden ages (Dewey Larson, Reciprocal Systems theory). I think perhaps this age is different and souls in human bodies will not be able to remain entrapped and unaware as they were in the past. Thus the controlling Et’s need a new paradigm. My fear is that they have used the growing awareness in some people to their advantage and are behind much of the New Age philosophies and “light Worker” agendas. Some of the Souls on this planet have alluded to such and have talked about the Draco control over the astral incarnation cycle and their self-made hero’s such as Ashtar and other various Channeled Guru’s. Even those who shun channeling and follow the scientific path to enlightenment may be unknowingly helping their cause. My discernment is that we are awakening and by necessity they need to control that process as they have ever other aspect of our lives. The negative agenda Et’s will utilize their human Cabal to develop web sites, spin elaborate Star Wars agendas and feed us with numerous channeled books and accounts of hypnosis sessions revealing the Truth from the astral realms. As it has been noted by others they may even sacrifice the Cabal, with promises of gifts in the astral as their reward, to assist in bringing about the “Event” and transition to a new a paradigm fitting a New Galactic cycle.

As always they will reveal actual truth on these sites and in the books, wrapped in distorted lies or wistful future plans that will resonate with us and entrap us. They dangle a stick of freedom and a do gooder agenda that will certainly appeal to all good light Workers. Web sites tell us of the world changing, the energies are all around us etc. etc. We are given snippets of information that is carefully chosen about Galactic wars and alien races. They rationalize its a war and thus info is being leaked to lower ranks (that’s you and me) on their famous “need to know basis” which sounds like their familiar hieratical military tactics to me. I have no proof of what I’m saying its only based on an internal sense that this is right based on my reading, channeling , out of body experiences and following the New Age Movement for over 20 years . However, they have no proof either and we are all just seeking information and have to come to our own discernment about it. These web sites say a war is at foot in the Galaxy, eons of enslaving souls is coming to an end , ships are being blown up, bases are being destroyed and humans throughout the galaxies are being freed; but are they? And If they are can it be possible even they don’t realize there is another agenda behind their war or freedom?

I think perhaps there will be an “Event “(or a series of events), that will be as orchestrated as 911 but rather than a false flag event it will be a false Light event. We will think we will feel the need to come together after “Disclosure” in a New World Order to be aligned against something so huge , universes full of hostile aliens who had so easily manipulated some humans to join a Cabal and all the others, including oneself to live in slavery. We have to ask for help from the STO aliens because this is beyond the intervention of a mere mortal. In 2013 I channeled a book that opened my eyes to their dark agenda. I experienced firsthand doing something I thought was good, only to realize how easily my mind and subsequent behavior could be controlled. It was a sobering life changing experience. I wanted to identify myself as light worker and I experienced the hard way why Cameron Day who so eloquently explained in, why I am no longer a light Worker http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/08/23/why-i-am-no-longer-a-light-worker/ what he came to understand. The book by Truman Cash The Eye of Ra, http://www.projectavalon.net/Truman_Cash_The_Eye_of_Ra.pdf , revealed the alien control system over reincarnation and the endless entrapment of souls and needless returning to the earth to feed the Matrix. Thus the dark controls both the light and the dark sides and will recruit both sides using the same tactics with different wording with the same end game in sight. What seems liberation is only a new program in the Matrix. Like myself I was duped into thinking this was my part to play in the war, like many other in the awaked camp back home I wanted to join the fight not just read about in the papers. I was finally called up for enlistment, my specialness was finally recognized. The sad truth is I think this is happening to many good meaning souls and that realization has helped alleviate some of the guilt over being so easily duped by the enemy. I think the STS entities have been working on and unfolding this this plan for a long time and it seems brilliant. The irony of not only using the rebeal new agers but most likleu working hard behind the scenes to actually develop the movement, in order carry out the plan.

In my book Jourmeys for Change and Enlightenment (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EME927C), ( I’m not trying to get you to buy it, just want you to see it exists) they presented their warped version of the future they say will unfold. They fed me information about a world filled with hybrids communicating through telepathy that no longer incarnate. They downloaded the words and visons into my head, most likely from a chip they so kindly provided me and manipulated me into consenting to, because after all I was doing good work! I have felt intimidated to reveal what I have spent two years trying to understand since writing that book because I realize they attack those who oppose their agenda. If the Galaxy is in a trajectory that thy can’t control then they have to change how they harvest, and it just seems their style to enlist us all in the process of enslaving ourselves in the Brave New World agenda, championed by the Light Workers of the World. Montalk notes , http://montalk.net/gnosis/220/9-the-end
In Far Journeys, Monroe was also told about an unusual cosmic energy convergence that would irradiate Earth in our near future. This represented a rare and significant moment in our history. A great alien presence has gathered to observe this event, and I would add, to influence the outcome. Monroe was told that the Edenic Earth was just one positive probable future, whereas the more negative ones could include extinction of the human race. I would further add, that other timelines include genetic enslavement by some of these alien factions who have gathered here. Monroe was shown that this event is a cataclysmic period of chaos, crisis, and opportunity from which numerous probable futures split off. Thus it is the largest choice point on the timeline and the key focal point of the timewar, hence all the past several thousand years of preparations leading up to the events of our near future.

My book is a roll out of the genetic enslavement agenda. The upcoming Event may either be a disclosure , a false alien invasion or an alien liberation it’s all the same. I do not think they are giving up and it will all be love and light after disclosure because they had no choice because of the positive STS beings intervened. I think they will progress down the time line to begin to put in place their new agenda, one they had no choice but to put in place because the changes in the Galaxy. I may be wrong, I may not know anything but I thought I would share my take on things and why I went AWOL from the Light Army.

Savannah

[onawah]

I'm really glad you went AWOL Savannah and are sharing your experience now here on Avalon.
I can totally relate to what you have written.
Thank you.

[Lost N Found]

Oh Grip, Grip, Grip, You were doing so well in the Matrix. Now you are doing so much better. Thanks for the comments and I fully intend to also be lucid in that dream. I do believe that this thread of Corey Goodex brings back all those dreams and thoughts of when the Drake fellow was so big in the news. So it is so helpful to have and see conversations that are grounded and have common sense. Grip Grip Grip, don't ever go back to that blue pill place.

[Innocent Warrior]

I disagree only on one point there has been a lot of Corey bashing my job is not to defend him but to try to put a stop to it. It is not good to destroy some one even if they or wrong or misguided.

be the better man

make peace not war
I say close this thread

Understood. I think we have some differing definitions.

Examining the credibility or exploring possible agendas etc. of the source is a legitimate part of the vetting process, but in this case it seems more trouble than it's worth at times, for obvious reasons. I'm happy to agree to disagree.


Great post Innocent Warrior

Thanks jonsnow. :)

[Rocky_Shorz]

how many heard of this UFO popping out of a worm hole over Texas and just for a moment wondered if a pile of space junk was about to drop on Corey's head for releasing secrets not meant to be heard...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-PaHI10hXE

[Rocky_Shorz]

How does it effect the ranking of a A2 person, when he/she has promoted a source, that obtaind a ranking of only E4?

I would say that if the A2 person kept promoting an E4 source after the E4 status was known then that said person would lose credibility. Those with less than stellar reliability scores are intentionally deceptive or extremely naive. We all have had the wool pulled over our eyes. It all comes down to having the ability to recognizing deception then having the integrity to do something about it.

reading science Fiction, you are at an F6 level...

Then your spirit slides back the veil showing images of reality and you realize it went to F1...

but if the source was your Spirit, suddenly you realize you have an A1 in a fictional book...

if you are an engineer who believes in black and white, you know by opening your mouth and whispering anything to anyone, flips you to the wacko scale in their mind...

so, do you share, or go happily on your way knowing something no one else does?

after a while, you want to know if anyone else knows...

you toss it out jokingly...

3 people's mouths drop and you realize, they know too...

you start gathering with them secretly for discussions, pretty soon others show, joining the discussion and sharing more...

before you know it, you've created Project Avalon... ;-)


Thanks Bill...

[Bob]

I would love to hear what others were observing that were red flags for their discernment. It would be an education for all of us.

That's an important and intelligent question. It can be applied to every situation in which we find ourselves where we're presented with information that may be not be easy to evaluate.

The intelligence services use this well-tried system:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_source_and_information_reliability

http://projectavalon.net/Source_reliability_and_Information_reliability.gif


That's a pretty useful thinking tool. It's objective (it has to be), and from an intelligence analysis point of view, is independent of irrelevant subjective factors such as whether a source is difficult to work with, or whether or not they're likeable as an individual.

In there, at the end, of course, there's a human evaluation which is at least subjective to a degree. To set the cat well among the pigeons, and to offer a few examples, I'd offer these personal assessments:



Corey Goode: E4
David Wilcock: C3
Michael Salla: B3

(and while on the subject of Mars and the Secret Space Program)


Andy Basiago: C4
Randy Cramer: E4
Henry Deacon (Arthur Neumann): A2
Bill Deagle: A2
Jay Weidner: A2
Steven Greer: D2
Alfred Webre: D4


(And finally, to set the bar — discuss :) )

Linda Moulton Howe: A1
Rich Dolan: A1
Richard Hoagland: B2
Bob Dean: A2
Kerry Cassidy: B2
Bill Ryan: A2



Re Linda/Rich/Richard/Bob/Kerry/myself, some of the disparity in rating is accounted for by the nature of the material those six are willing to consider/explore/discuss.

Folks have NOT gotten it.. Various previous MODS have taken a position to spin things --- into agendas to let them have their own agendas, including new forums.. Bill had been more than honest, and forgiving of MANY of the assaults to his character.. I find it abhorrent, there is no multiplicative as to how abhorrent some ex-members (despite if they are "on sabbatical") or not have chosen to be "reactive" or psychotic in a more definitive way..

Bill has created a forum for members to choose the viewpoint UPSTAT, you all think about what UPSTAT means... instead those less than upstat members have chosen to stay in the sewers.. And invite others to jump in that view point with them..absolutely not - take your sewer viewpoint and put in elsewhere... Awareness, I think not.. from those who choose downstat instead of finding a way upwards... Bill, you have done good.. the dross have not tried to rise themselves upwards. And I will point out positive or dross when I see it.. YOU Bill are doing good.

[Lost N Found]

You know, I just spent the last hour rambling on about this thread and screwed up and deleted it by mistake. I quess what I was trying to say is why do we give life and credence to the fear and Poor souls like Corey Goode who may be lost in translation or something and just looking for recognition in his life. Yes he may have been part of the MILAB experiment or some such, we have no way of knowing but should we be giving credence to this? Should we give credence to all of the fear Porn from folks like Alex Jones, Dave Hodges, Peter Shiftt, or any of these folks that just want your money to tell you how to save your money? or, want you to start some sort of war, Yes it is good and has always been good to be prepared for any emergency and definitely one should be able to protect themselves and loved ones. Just saying, we do not need to buy into fear porn and we can all be grounded in the fact that the light will shine and life moves forward.

Well I will make this short and sweet, Bill has given us a chart that evaluates alot of these folks that just want your money to buy their books and CD's and follow their trains of thought. Well I do believe it all comes down to the money and we all need to do our own vetting of these folks so we do understand the truth. If we all unplug from the Matrix at once! who knows what will happen. Thank you Bill for giving a starting point to vet with.

[PurpleLama]

I would love to hear what others were observing that were red flags for their discernment. It would be an education for all of us.

That's an important and intelligent question. It can be applied to every situation in which we find ourselves where we're presented with information that may be not be easy to evaluate.

The intelligence services use this well-tried system:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_source_and_information_reliability

http://projectavalon.net/Source_reliability_and_Information_reliability.gif


That's a pretty useful thinking tool. It's objective (it has to be), and from an intelligence analysis point of view, is independent of irrelevant subjective factors such as whether a source is difficult to work with, or whether or not they're likeable as an individual.

In there, at the end, of course, there's a human evaluation which is at least subjective to a degree. To set the cat well among the pigeons, and to offer a few examples, I'd offer these personal assessments:



Corey Goode: E4
David Wilcock: C3
Michael Salla: B3

(and while on the subject of Mars and the Secret Space Program)


Andy Basiago: C4
Randy Cramer: E4
Henry Deacon (Arthur Neumann): A2
Bill Deagle: A2
Jay Weidner: A2
Steven Greer: D2
Alfred Webre: D4


(And finally, to set the bar — discuss :) )

Linda Moulton Howe: A1
Rich Dolan: A1
Richard Hoagland: B2
Bob Dean: A2
Kerry Cassidy: B2
Bill Ryan: A2



Re Linda/Rich/Richard/Bob/Kerry/myself, some of the disparity in rating is accounted for by the nature of the material those six are willing to consider/explore/discuss.

Folks have NOT gotten it.. Various previous MODS have taken a position to spin things --- into agendas to let them have their own agendas, including new forums.. Bill had been more than honest, and forgiving of MANY of the assaults to his character.. I find it abhorrent, there is no multiplicative as to how abhorrent some ex-members (despite if they are "on sabbatical") or not have chosen to be "reactive" or psychotic in a more definitive way..

Bill has created a forum for members to choose the viewpoint UPSTAT, you all think about what UPSTAT means... instead those less than upstat members have chosen to stay in the sewers.. And invite others to jump in that view point with them..absolutely not - take your sewer viewpoint and put in elsewhere... Awareness, I think not.. from those who choose downstat instead of finding a way upwards... Bill, you have done good.. the dross have not tried to rise themselves upwards. And I will point out positive or dross when I see it.. YOU Bill are doing good.

What does UPSTAT mean?

[Bob]

Let's ask Bill to explain that - UP-Statistics.. more like defining a viewpoint of survival, instead of death, and being in the dumps.. Is the dumps what people want? You tell me..

[bruno dante]

Let's ask Bill to explain that - UP-Statistics.. more like defining a viewpoint of survival, instead of death, and being in the dumps.. Is the dumps what people want? You tell me..



Bob, with all due respect, starting with your last post and into this one...I have no idea what you're talking about.

[ThePythonicCow]

What does UPSTAT mean?


Let's ask Bill to explain that - UP-Statistics.. more like defining a viewpoint of survival, instead of death, and being in the dumps.. Is the dumps what people want? You tell me..


Bob, with all due respect, starting with your last post and into this one...I have no idea what you're talking about.
Thanks to Google, from this Ex-Scientologist page (http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?4777-quot-Upstat-quot-vs-quot-Downstat-quot):

In Scientology ...



"Upstats" (people who increase their statistics) are treated more gently, less likely to be corrected, and in general are treated as valuable.

"Downstats" are treated poorly. Anything done to them is measured against stats. If the person that does something (yelling at them or whatever) is upstat, nothing done to the "downstat" would be considered wrong.

[PurpleLama]

What does UPSTAT mean?


Let's ask Bill to explain that - UP-Statistics.. more like defining a viewpoint of survival, instead of death, and being in the dumps.. Is the dumps what people want? You tell me..


Bob, with all due respect, starting with your last post and into this one...I have no idea what you're talking about.
Thanks to Google, from this Ex-Scientologist page (http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?4777-quot-Upstat-quot-vs-quot-Downstat-quot):

In Scientology ...



"Upstats" (people who increase their statistics) are treated more gently, less likely to be corrected, and in general are treated as valuable.

"Downstats" are treated poorly. Anything done to them is measured against stats. If the person that does something (yelling at them or whatever) is upstat, nothing done to the "downstat" would be considered wrong.

Thanks, Paul. I have to say, taken in that context, Bob's post takes on a rather ominous tone. But, maybe that's just me being an SP. :blushing:

Google is a funny thing, three pages searching upstat, and all I got was a bunch of corporate gobbledygook, no mention of scientology.

[Rex]

In a long ago broadcast, Whitley Strieber described some of the folks that take the research way further than he ever will, as "flying too close to the sun". He mentioned Richard C. Hoagland as one of those folks. Rather than focus on the negative, I thought it was a great way to look at it, and still do. I would say guys like David Wilcock taking it even further, maybe "wingsuiting through coronal arches" :smile:

One comment about the rating system, maybe it should have ranges - for example RCH might get B2-C3.

[Bill Ryan]

Bob's post takes on a rather ominous tone



No, it's just slang! :sun:

It's a one-stop euphemism that means (kind of) enthusiastic, productive, creative, constructive, positive, everything that's 'up' about a person who's good news to have around.

That's why we filter applications (and why some people get to be asked to leave the community if they're being too destructive, abusive, sabotaging, etc... which is the exact opposite).

[Flash]

Sounds like in higher corporate management philosophy:p or a corporate sales meeting attitudes. With actual scientology, I bet it is precisely what it is.

However, I do understand the context here which is not scientology.



What does UPSTAT mean?


Let's ask Bill to explain that - UP-Statistics.. more like defining a viewpoint of survival, instead of death, and being in the dumps.. Is the dumps what people want? You tell me..


Bob, with all due respect, starting with your last post and into this one...I have no idea what you're talking about.
Thanks to Google, from this Ex-Scientologist page (http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?4777-quot-Upstat-quot-vs-quot-Downstat-quot):

In Scientology ...



"Upstats" (people who increase their statistics) are treated more gently, less likely to be corrected, and in general are treated as valuable.

"Downstats" are treated poorly. Anything done to them is measured against stats. If the person that does something (yelling at them or whatever) is upstat, nothing done to the "downstat" would be considered wrong.

[PHennessey]

The Corey Goode saga is fascinating and far-reaching, but I am wary of accepting it at face value until someone else comes out of the woodwork to back him up. Anyone else feel the same way?