UN report on crimes in occupied Palestine..

[Sean]

Commentary by Gordon Duff

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/07/04/un-report-on-war-crimes-in-palestine-and-occupied-territories-document/

[A Voice from the Mountains]

I wish I could find this on a UN website instead of relying on this guy who claims to be a member of the Federal Reserve board, a military intelligence expert and adviser to dozens of countries, and a 100% disabled Vietnam vet, all at the same time.

[Cidersomerset]

I was just looking at some article on David Ickes Headline page....

While Gaza is still in ruins , Its now alleged by Israel and Egypt
it seems that IS are firing rockets from there at both of them...

Meanwhile Israel is still trying to derail Irans nuclear power deal.

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UN Human Rights Council condemns Israel for 2014 war on Gaza

By ickonic on 4th July 2015

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Israel seeks help of West to stop its officials from being arrested

By ickonic on 4th July 2015 Coverups, Illuminati Criminals, War and Terror

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‘The Israeli Foreign Ministry has asked European countries for help in confronting the
risk of their generals, political and security officials being arrested on charges of war
crimes while abroad.

This comes after the Palestinian Authority, along with a number of Muslim states, filed
a complaint in the UN Human Rights Council on Tuesday demanding that a number of
Israeli politicians and military officials be declared suspects of committing war crimes.
They also called for their arrest in countries where the law allows for this and for them
to be questioned as to their involvement in last summer’s war against Gaza.’

Read more: Israel seeks help of West to stop its officials from being arrested

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/19630-israel-seeks-help-of-west-to-stop-its-officials-from-being-arrested

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Ramadan amongst the rubble of Gaza

By ickonic on 4th July 2015 War and Terror

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‘For 20 years Saleh Abu Aser, 36, had been proud to honour the same annual traditions
in observing the holy month of Ramadan. But this year is different. Instead of the family
gathering around their comfortable living room, they now find themselves sitting on a
small blanket that covers the hard, exposed ground. The family must now sit in what
remains of their home, destroyed by Israel’s military assault last summer.’

Read more: Ramadan amongst the rubble of Gaza

http://www.middleeasteye.net/in-depth/features/ramadan-amongst-rubble-gaza-1584204477

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Egypt May Seek Israeli Army’s Help to Fight ISIL in Gaza

By ickonic on 4th July 2015 War and Terror

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‘Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Sisi may request Israeli assistance in fighting a
mounting insurgency in the neighboring Gaza Strip, an Egyptian source familiar
with the matter told Israeli media Thursday.

On Tuesday, the Islamic State (ISIL) jihadist group posted a video threatening to
topple Gaza’s de-facto government, the Palestinian Islamic Hamas movement,
and establish its own strict religious rule.

“The two [Egyptians and Israeli] armies may already be coordinating in preparation
for such a possibility,” the source told the Haaretz newspaper.’

Read more: Egypt May Seek Israeli Army’s Help to Fight ISIL in Gaza

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150702/1024136501.html


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ISIS threat ‘nothing’ compared to nuclear Iran, Netanyahu warns (again)

By ickonic on 4th July 2015 War and Terror

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‘As the Iranian nuclear negotiations teeter on the brink, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu
is saying the world has more to fear from a nuclear-capable Iran than ISIS terrorists.
The statement comes after the jihadists threatened to “uproot” the Jewish state.

Netanyahu’s statement was made on Thursday, as the talks over Iran’s nuclear program
held in Vienna showed no clear sign of progressing to a solution acceptable to all sides.

The Israeli PM, famous for showing a cartoon with a bomb at the UN to illustrate his fears,
made the warning during a visit to Israel’s cyber park in Beersheba.’

Read more: ISIS threat ‘nothing’ compared to nuclear Iran, Netanyahu warns (again)

http://rt.com/news/271453-iran-isis-netanyahu-israel/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

[Sean]

I wish I could find this on a UN website instead of relying on this guy who claims to be a member of the Federal Reserve board, a military intelligence expert and adviser to dozens of countries, and a 100% disabled Vietnam vet, all at the same time.

I don't see that claim anywhere on VT. Proof, please.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

His listed bio on that website has changed many times, claiming that he is many different things.


Here is his bio from late 2012:


Gordon Duff is a Marine Vietnam veteran, a combat infantryman, and Senior Editor at Veterans Today. His career has included extensive experience in international banking along with such diverse areas as consulting on counter insurgency, surveillance technologies, intelligence analysis,defense technologies or acting as a UN diplomat and "special consultant."

Duff currently serves on the boards of the Adamus Group, one of the world's largest energy technology firms and of a private financial institution participating in the Federal Reserve Banking group.

His most recent project adapts advanced military technologies to wildlife and land management in cooperation with the UN, USAID and International Wildlife Federation.

Gordon Duff has traveled to over 80 nations. His articles are published around the world and translated into a number of languages. Duff, military affairs analyst for Press TV, is regularly on TV and radio, a popular and sometimes controversial guest. Visit Gordon Duff's YouTube Channel

https://web.archive.org/web/20121117005451/http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/gordonduff/


This is his current bio:


Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War. He is a disabled veteran and has worked on veterans and POW issues for decades.

Gordon Duff is an accredited diplomat and is generally accepted as one of the top global intelligence specialists. He manages the world's largest private intelligence organization and regularly consults with governments challenged by security issues.

Gordon Duff has traveled extensively, is published around the world and is a regular guest on TV and radio in more than "several" countries. He is also a trained chef, wine enthusiast, avid motorcyclist and gunsmith specializing in historical weapons and restoration. Business experience and interests are in energy and defense technology.

He is co-host of the popular VT Radio show Jim and Gordie Show.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/gordonduff/


You can read more about his ever-changing bio here: http://redefininggod.com/2014/10/shady-as-hell-the-veterans-today-rt-presstv-disinformation-conglomerate-part-1-the-amazing-gordon-duff/

Let me know if I can be of additional service.

[lucidity]

Let me know if I can be of additional service.

I especially enjoyed that last line.

be happy :-)

lucidity

[Sean]

His listed bio on that website has changed many times, claiming that he is many different things.


Here is his bio from late 2012:


Gordon Duff is a Marine Vietnam veteran, a combat infantryman, and Senior Editor at Veterans Today. His career has included extensive experience in international banking along with such diverse areas as consulting on counter insurgency, surveillance technologies, intelligence analysis,defense technologies or acting as a UN diplomat and "special consultant."

Duff currently serves on the boards of the Adamus Group, one of the world's largest energy technology firms and of a private financial institution participating in the Federal Reserve Banking group.

His most recent project adapts advanced military technologies to wildlife and land management in cooperation with the UN, USAID and International Wildlife Federation.

Gordon Duff has traveled to over 80 nations. His articles are published around the world and translated into a number of languages. Duff, military affairs analyst for Press TV, is regularly on TV and radio, a popular and sometimes controversial guest. Visit Gordon Duff's YouTube Channel

https://web.archive.org/web/20121117005451/http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/gordonduff/


This is his current bio:


Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War. He is a disabled veteran and has worked on veterans and POW issues for decades.

Gordon Duff is an accredited diplomat and is generally accepted as one of the top global intelligence specialists. He manages the world's largest private intelligence organization and regularly consults with governments challenged by security issues.

Gordon Duff has traveled extensively, is published around the world and is a regular guest on TV and radio in more than "several" countries. He is also a trained chef, wine enthusiast, avid motorcyclist and gunsmith specializing in historical weapons and restoration. Business experience and interests are in energy and defense technology.

He is co-host of the popular VT Radio show Jim and Gordie Show.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/gordonduff/


You can read more about his ever-changing bio here: http://redefininggod.com/2014/10/shady-as-hell-the-veterans-today-rt-presstv-disinformation-conglomerate-part-1-the-amazing-gordon-duff/

Let me know if I can be of additional service.

That article has a direct link to the report itself.

Yet, you try to make this thread about Gordon, and NOT about the war crimes Israel committed in Gaza. why is that?

Diversionary tactics are not the hallmark of a truthseeker.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

That article has a direct link to the report itself.

It had a link to a scribd upload, which is a website where people can upload any documents they like.

It would be better if it were hosted on the official UN website, because, though I would like to believe that Israel will be held accountable for its indiscriminate killing of civilians, I have no faith in either "Gordon Duff" nor in a document uploaded to scribd and claimed to be from the UN. That's all I'm saying.

And the only reason I posted the info about Duff above is because you asked me for it. :noidea:

[Sean]

That article has a direct link to the report itself.

It had a link to a scribd upload, which is a website where people can upload any documents they like.

It would be better if it were hosted on the official UN website, because, though I would like to believe that Israel will be held accountable for its indiscriminate killing of civilians, I have no faith in either "Gordon Duff" nor in a document uploaded to scribd and claimed to be from the UN. That's all I'm saying.

And the only reason I posted the info about Duff above is because you asked me for it. :noidea:

My point is, you're making this about Gordon, and NOT the subject matter. Say what you want about his bio..but VT has a long history of solid info. There may be many reasons why the report doesn't appear on the UN site..I'd say politics plays a part. Mealy-mouthed as it is..it's STILL criticism of Israel, which is something Israel strongly opposes. just because they didn't post it doesn't mean it's credibility should be questioned. Hell, it really doesn't go far enough..

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Think of it this way. Maybe the UN never made this report at all (because we have no proof of that). Then we have people celebrating the idea that the UN is finally looking at Israel's crimes, and people become satisfied and are waiting to hear what happens next.... when this report never came from the UN in the first place. Maybe someone is just trying to yank our chains, hoping that we will be satisfied with this and let the issue go, thinking that it's going to be settled now.

Intelligence communities in lots of countries spend millions of dollars on what they call counter-intelligence, which is lying to people to fool them from properly gathering their own "intelligence" information. In modern times the "enemy" is often the sovereign citizens themselves, so basically these intelligence apparatuses are spending millions of dollars to lie to civilians. It's one thing to think about this abstractly, but then ask yourself where "the rubber meets the road" with all of this spending, and where the results of it are. What are they actually spending it on, anyway? If you had a budget of millions of dollars, and access to top psychological and informational warfare experts, don't you think you could come up with some pretty devious schemes yourself?

If this article is real then that's good, I want it to be true. But I also want to see it confirmed by some sort of official source. If you think VT is credible, that's your call, but if Duff's bio is accurate (though I would have to ask -- which one?), then he is connected to both the military industrial complex and the banking cartels. That alone would be enough for me to not trust anything the man said. And he's their "senior editor."


I have a feeling you're going to complain that I'm not talking about the article itself again, so let's just talk about that article then. Let's talk about where I can find confirmation that this is real and not just someone pulling my leg. That's about the article itself. So what do you think?

[Sean]

Think of it this way. Maybe the UN never made this report at all (because we have no proof of that). Then we have people celebrating the idea that the UN is finally looking at Israel's crimes, and people become satisfied and are waiting to hear what happens next.... when this report never came from the UN in the first place. Maybe someone is just trying to yank our chains, hoping that we will be satisfied with this and let the issue go, thinking that it's going to be settled now.

Intelligence communities in lots of countries spend millions of dollars on what they call counter-intelligence, which is lying to people to fool them from properly gathering their own "intelligence" information. In modern times the "enemy" is often the sovereign citizens themselves, so basically these intelligence apparatuses are spending millions of dollars to lie to civilians. It's one thing to think about this abstractly, but then ask yourself where "the rubber meets the road" with all of this spending, and where the results of it are. What are they actually spending it on, anyway? If you had a budget of millions of dollars, and access to top psychological and informational warfare experts, don't you think you could come up with some pretty devious schemes yourself?

If this article is real then that's good, I want it to be true. But I also want to see it confirmed by some sort of official source. If you think VT is credible, that's your call, but if Duff's bio is accurate (though I would have to ask -- which one?), then he is connected to both the military industrial complex and the banking cartels. That alone would be enough for me to not trust anything the man said. And he's their "senior editor."


I have a feeling you're going to complain that I'm not talking about the article itself again, so let's just talk about that article then. Let's talk about where I can find confirmation that this is real and not just someone pulling my leg. That's about the article itself. So what do you think?


Here ya go. this is the website for the independent inquiry itself..and this is the same report Gordon posted. You probably only looked on the main UN website etc..
http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/HRC/CoIGazaConflict/Pages/CommissionOfInquiry.aspx

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Good, that is what I was looking for and I'm glad you were able to find it there.

Thanks, workingactor.