Pre-emptive good-bye and thanks so much [Archive] - The Project Avalon Community Forum

araucaria

10th July 2015, 09:20

The Internet is a hundred-headed monster, I don't think an overall take-down is feasible. From my limited knowledge, your message is transmitted in packets that individually take whatever route is open to them. Hence every message has the full benefit of the worldwide web. At worst, any interference with the infrastructure would cause severe congestion. You would need something like a massive directed CME to cause total shutdown.

If that were to happen, the acid test would how online community ethics and methods are applied in our local communities. My guess is that there are enough genuinely good people in the world to get that done effectively. If the whole planet were to become a disaster relief area in terms of supplying basic necessities, then the vast majority of decent citizens would come into their own, being notably obliged to forget the money-grabbing pleasure-seeking rat race. The elite 1% would be totally irrelevant, and the crime rate in most parts is small enough to be contained. In the UK for example, victim-based crime was 5.5% (55 per thousand) in 2013, following a steady downtrend since peaking in 1995. http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/crime-stats/crime-statistics/period-ending-march-2013/stb-crime--period-ending-march-2013.html

Calz

10th July 2015, 09:24

This goes beyond the internet.

I expect that should be clear very soon.

Watching from Cyprus

10th July 2015, 09:27

Dito here Calz,
I suggest that it is time to keep an eye on what John McAfee is up too, as he was proclaiming that he was launching a new internet, which is going to be safe.
Thank you and love to you all.. Stay strong and dont bow down to anybody.
Peter

RunningDeer

10th July 2015, 09:47

Yes, Cal, just in case, see you on the other side.

Some may understand when I say that I believe many of us are in communication in sleep and wake time and a growing number are cognizant of it.

So if you think you’ve received a hello-gram or a hello-back-gram from me, odds are you did. :wave:

RunningDeer ♡

Watching from Cyprus

10th July 2015, 09:48

Sadly the time to wake people up ... has passed.

Hang on to your hats ...

As i previously wrote many times, which probably offend people in general, there are too many waste of spaces who has become so materialistic inside and out. They have turned bad, and they must go.. rough but necessary, as these people will be the ones who will kill to survive when their materialistic world collapses for them..

Let me give you an example; a few month ago we (my wife, our son and myself) were visiting my wife's family in Serbia. My wife went to a hair dresser which her friend uses to color her hair as it is cheap in Serbia. First she was happy, but wanted a bit more highlights so she went back to get that done. The result was not good which the hairdresser acknowledged, so the hair dresser was embarrassed and charged only EUR 10 for the second time (first time was EUR 40) My wife made a 3rd appointment and learned that the hairdresser was dismissed from the saloon by the manager.. The manager was angry and also had mentioned to the hairdresser that firstly my wife is living abroad, so she should be charged minimum EUR 60 for the first job as it would cost EUR 100 in Cyprus, and secondly said to the hairdresser ; how my wife could be dressing up like that (she was in shorts and T-shirt) bearing no style and proper clothes....
What is this for a world we live in..
Peter

araucaria

10th July 2015, 09:51

This goes beyond the internet.

I expect that should be clear very soon.
So did my remarks Calz. The big collapse has been about to happen for about as long as bombing Iran, usually in September, following the economic calendar. And of course this year is going to be different. But you know, Argentina has shown how a country is not too big either to fail or recover, and Iceland how a country is not too small either to fail or recover. Global collapse is not going to happen because for every debtor there is a creditor, and the creditor stands to lose more than the debtor, who has nothing. Take a convicted bank trader like Jérôme Kerviel, who owes the government a multi-billion euro fine. The government can bay for the money in any way it pleases including violence and until the cows come home, there is no way that fine is going to get paid. Transpose that to any situation you like, it’s the same story. There is the saying, promises are only to be taken seriously by the person who believes them. The same can be same for debt. The debt system is what is coming crashing down, meaning that the slate is wiped clean; what you cannot possibly pay you no longer owe; what you cannot possibly collect you are no longer owed. No social upheaval is necessary to get from that inevitable conclusion to doing something about it.
See http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82417-The-Protocols-of-the-Elders-of-Zion-and-a-call-for-a-more-benevolent-leadership&p=966543&viewfull=1#post966543
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82695-Maybe-one-of-the-most-intelligent-book-chapters-you-will-ever-read&p=966828&viewfull=1#post966828

Agape

10th July 2015, 09:56

greybeard

10th July 2015, 10:01

My mind set is that every cloud has a silver lining.
Dr Simon Atkins has a scientific view of what may happen in August till the end of September---positive and negative in that.
It was posted on Avalon.
Very few predictions come to pass.
I believe that there is a Divine direction in all things---the human race is on an upward spiritual evolution through this.

Its important to know that you are not the body but Spirit having a human experience.
What you are is eternal.

Chris

Omni

10th July 2015, 10:03

No not leaving ...

Not to sound dramatic ... 5 days until Jade Helm 15 "officially" starts.

Supposedly the internet doesn't get turned over to the globalists until September.

Regardless ... getting damn close to the SHTF time.

At some point in the not too distant future we will not be able to communicate here.
Cal
In a year when this doesn't happen remember when I told you it's a psy op to discredit conspiracy theorists.

Gardener

10th July 2015, 10:10

Some of the cleverest internet/programmers are the hackers, so if the internet was 'blocked' from access by us bods, these hackers would, within a reasonable time, have a whole new 'hundred headed hydra' up and running. The architecture and protocols would remain.
There is a brief outline here (http://computer.howstuffworks.com/internet/basics/who-owns-internet.htm) about who 'owns' the internet and how it works.

So much is hanging on the internet they are unlikely to down it anytime soon, and their data collection would come to a screaching halt. However, there is a cyber security 'drill' taking place between USA and UK sometime soon, which which might be some kind of practice run for whatever nefarious plots they might have.

I have every confidence in the resourcefulness of real human beings in coming together when the 'chips are down' (pun intended).

:thumbsup:

Agape

10th July 2015, 10:21

The probability that 'something will happen' to any individual concerned compared to 'something will happen to everyone' is about 1000 times higher .
If not more . It's only mathematical probability , something may happen out of control .
From conspiracy theorists point of view , 'nothing happens out of control' ( ever ) , conspiracy theorists live in highly organised and predictable world ( for themselves ) , the only difference between them and the institute for statistics and probability is that they get the numbers right later .
Nothing happens unless people make it happen .

Oh well and vis above , so bellow , there's always more reason and rational in taking care of individual selves first before talking of collectives Calz .

Some people may understand my take on human collectives and collectivism is not simply as positive as theirs . I believe in healthy individualities , individual approach is missing everywhere , in education, medicine, society , science .
Healthy society is built from healthy and mature individuals , not the other way around .
Even the best system who does not serve you but asks you to be subservient to it is a demon in disguise .

:sun:

Calz

10th July 2015, 10:21

Some have suggested we can now leave.

... hell yah ... that seems to be a good thing.

... yet ... I love our planet

She must be remarkably patient with us.

Not much time ... we need to connect to her

Look at what we have done.

Rainbowheart

10th July 2015, 10:31

thanks CALZ

Let us go on blessing each other here in Avalon,
or START NOW blessing everyone here every day,
putting US into the pure light
into the NORM of Creation itself
whatever our powers are
as divine beings
let us use them
with every breath we take

I love you all

Rainbowheart

kirolak

10th July 2015, 10:45

I concur, blessed be all here (even the psy-ops & the shils!;) I dreamed of a white moth again last night, & I know now that it is not a good omen . So let's surround one another in the white-violet light & remember that it's just a game the Highest Being is playing with Herself

araucaria

10th July 2015, 10:59

araucaria

10th July 2015, 11:28

Very few predictions come to pass.
I think this is because stuff that is properly dealt with internally doesn’t need to materialize. We have collectively probably had a good enough look over the clifftop to understand we don’t want to go there. Those who disagree are always people who think they have done enough introspection but that too many others are lagging behind. I believe it is a mistake to think so lowly of so many, notably because such an opinion is based substantially on the very mainstream presentation of the state of the world that is so reviled as being false. Looking around me, I see nothing but mostly lovely people: family, extended family in every direction, friends, friends of family, there is no end to it. Sure they/we all have issues still to be dealt with, but nothing planet-threatening. These are the manageable issues that will manifest in our reality, if we don’t deal with them first.

Agape

10th July 2015, 11:29

''Attached to wires , I'm not'' :bigsmile: I am now opting to switch from cable to sim ( wireless ) card subscription for practical reasons , long to explain , the only disadvantage so far is the FUP limit they put on mobile connections , quite yet .

But I think ..this is the difference and advantage over 'movie screen Master Yoda' we have , he's still wired .
Wifi is more vulnerable than cable - just zap a few satellites, job done.

I'll think on it yet , it's a piece of the larger whole , the 'internet of everything' connected to other matters for me at the moment but I don't like compromising what I feel is essential ,

water for example .. or internet data ..there are not as many options as one can think of ..

This would be my favourite ( option ) :

RfRjz2fZNoU

:heart:

mosquito

10th July 2015, 11:41

Christ on a bike - THAT was a shock ! Calz (avaretard) LEAVING ? Never ! Slapped wrists for such a provokatively inaccurate thread title.

As for the world situation .....

I think the internet has been hijacked good and proper by the BiP. They can't live without it, WE can. Don't believe me ?

Can the internet gather/hunt/collect or COOK food ?
Can the internet give you a hug ?
Can the internet shelter you from the snow and hail ?
Can the internet rock your child to sleep ?
Can the internet spontaneously tell you funny stories ?
Can the internet lick/suck your ******* ?
Can the internet tell you, truthfully, that he/she loves you ?

It's a tool, nothing more; which, in the right hands can be used for good. But in the hands of controlling psychopaths, is a weapon.

I have no idea what's about to happen, but I FEEL we have reached the point of no return. So whatever is in store for us .....

Trust your heart
Don't put your faith in technology, politicians, religion, or anything else created by man.
Trust Mother Earth.... She is the only one who won't bullsh1t you (how f**king stupid that I have to type S H 1 T - see how technology is used to control you ?)
And whatever you do, love whoever is in front of you.

Feel free to beam me up Mr. Scott

Sunny-side-up

10th July 2015, 11:51

We have connected by material ways (Internet) (Once together always together)(Like attracts like)

LOVE YOU ALL!

What ever happens we will deal with it in AWAKE WAYS, we are no longer individual sleepers!
We are aware of higher things! We are part of higher things, we are higher than this material stuff the PTW have forced upon us, the material stuff the sleepers call reality!

LOVE!

We are raising our energies, we are rising, we are ascending and gaining connection :)
They (PTW) are descending, they are going down and losing connection, not us :)

LOVE!

Lifebringer

10th July 2015, 11:56

Now that's the end of the debt paranoia, I'd come to know and learn. "You can't get blood from a turnip." If you've nothing to use as payment that's acceptable in this scam system, they naturally hate you for not pying their usury system, where they use YOUR/OUR money to build their empire of death and destruction on the world and people. In short: I Dudits, go away Mr. Gray."

A.I.I.B. has the right ideas at the right time, just like Bernie. Just don't let cabal rule you, is their motive as well as funding a green clean non-poverty world.

Bubu

10th July 2015, 12:01

Lets take for granted that OP is correct. I can assure you they are as nervous or probably more nervous than us. How many centuries have this been on the planning?

All reasoning aside my gut feeling is that they are gonna fail miserably
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/1a/3b/ea/1a3bea53dc562e50cdd1743e6f7b082d.jpg

Lifebringer

10th July 2015, 12:04

I like that focus Sunny. Withering like a dry vine, or spiraling into an abyse. Only the creator knows where they belong at this time, but it's surely not here among us. Ergo the separation of "wheat from tares."

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And we will witness it.

Lifebringer

10th July 2015, 12:18

Avalon has taught us what we all knew inside. To love humanity unconditionally no matter where in the world, and to live by that code of decency and respect. Also to not be too lazy to check ourselves before we wreck ourselves. The beauty of Unity. That you Avalon, the wounded in life, do rise.

Lifebringer

10th July 2015, 12:37

Deega

10th July 2015, 15:20

Well Calz, Paul had a similar Tread a while back, yes!, maybe, we are at a crossroad where the TPB takes dramatic mesures to cut us off communicating together.

I like to think that there is a force stronger than the evil of profits, and this force is starting to get a grip at things, maybe I'm naive but what can we do, if the timing isn't in our favor, we will have to live through it.

I invite every Avalon Member to send positive vibes to the mass of people such that we could make a step forward avoiding this catastrophy.

Blessing to everyone.

Deega

Mercedes

10th July 2015, 15:20

Thank you all, I cannot believe I 've found Avalon or it has found me. But I feel so good to feel all your good energies in here. We must bring forward the Earth that we all need. Love to all.

Jhonie

10th July 2015, 16:20

Haven't we been hearing about doom and gloom forever???? and yet we are still here.

3(C)+me

10th July 2015, 16:50

Calz,
lovely post
thank you
:inlove:

ThePythonicCow

10th July 2015, 16:50

bruno dante

10th July 2015, 17:19

Haven't we been hearing about doom and gloom forever???? and yet we are still here.
One of "their" tactics for keeping us confused ... sound a hundred various alarms, at various times, so that we can't tell which alarm is real, when.

With respect, I think these are our tactics...for staying entertained.

I get the feeling sometimes that, like fanatical religionists, there's a part of us that almost WANTS the apocalypse....just so we can say "I told you so".

Surely if you throw mud at the wall long enough and with enough frequency, something will stick. Yes, if we as humans do not change our destructive ways something will surely happen....someday. But up until now none of these predictions have ever come true. NONE.

So I say, respectfully, it ain't gonna happen. We'll be discussing new conspiracies here in November, about how such n such will be occurring next January or April or whenever. Of this I have no doubt

Bubu

10th July 2015, 17:22

Haven't we been hearing about doom and gloom forever???? and yet we are still here.
One of "their" tactics for keeping us confused ... sound a hundred various alarms, at various times, so that we can't tell which alarm is real, when.

Assuming that this is true. Are we, the masses, capable of coordinated act to counter what is to come. So what could be the reason to all these false alarms, if there is any other than fear porn?

ThePythonicCow

10th July 2015, 17:28

ThePythonicCow

10th July 2015, 17:34

In other words, sometimes really major things do happen, and sometimes some of the more perceptive people better anticipate such events and improve their chances of surviving or even thriving.

Bubu

10th July 2015, 17:44

ghostrider

10th July 2015, 17:46

The AI will zero in on the where of position so, be careful. Skynet is now up and running. LOL Seriously wean off and go within for guidance during the tough times, use common sense and love, by putting yourself in one's shoes and seek the best solution for all. Tracking is their key for silencing the awakened. Sound the cymbals, ring the bells, gong the gong. We have arrived to the point of no turning back in love.

the invention of A.I. was the start of the Enoch prophecies for our time to begin their dirty deeds ... he foretold A.I. was gain independence from the controllers , and robotic killing machines would be unleashed on humanity ... just like in the ancient past too much knowledge without spiritual thinking always leads down the road to destruction , love is the answer ... always has been , humans just have short memories , balance with each other and nature out of love , respect , and kindness will always lead us back to where we belong ... one people ... one planet ... one love ... yes , skynet is a real thing , the robots have been built , the drones , and now A.I. , the puzzle pieces are set ... it's up to humanity to unite for peace and love , or suffer 888 days of hell on Earth ...

Ted

10th July 2015, 18:13

''Attached to wires , I'm not'' :bigsmile: I am now opting to switch from cable to sim ( wireless ) card subscription for practical reasons , long to explain , the only disadvantage so far is the FUP limit they put on mobile connections , quite yet .

But I think ..this is the difference and advantage over 'movie screen Master Yoda' we have , he's still wired .
Wifi is more vulnerable than cable - just zap a few satellites, job done.The receiving and transmitting end of any wireless system is connected to... a wire! You can't get away from wires unless you turn the whole dang thing off.
The internet is not going away short of nuclear war.

bruno dante

10th July 2015, 18:34

In other words, sometimes really major things do happen, and sometimes some of the more perceptive people better anticipate such events and improve their chances of surviving or even thriving.

I hear you.

And yet, at the speed and volume with which these doom n gloom scenarios roll in, one might find oneself doing much more preparation for disaster than actual living.

That's not to say disaster isn't a very real possibility. I'm not discounting that. Disease might be a good example...in the sense that there is a very real possibility of one becoming cancerous, or developing heart disease or whatever. And yet you can become quite debilitated if you give those thoughts too much energy. In other words, you've already lost if you fall under the grip of paranoia...you might as well already have the disease if you're acting like you already have it.

So the question becomes: how much energy and attention do I give this potential outcome? To utterly ignore can be just as disastrous as becoming paranoid and consumed. In the case of the o.p., I can't see any sense in worrying because A. history tells us that these predictions never come true, and B. even if it were true there is next to nothing I can do about it.

I'm tempted to say that if people like us truly believed some of these things might really occur, they wouldn't be writing about them on a forum - surely they'd be forming like minded groups and screaming to everyone within an ear shot that such n such was about to occur, so get ready etc. But maybe you're right. Maybe we've become so desensitized to false alarms that we simply lack the urgency to start any kind of real revolution.

Maybe I'm a product of that. Who knows? Or maybe I'm the only sane guy in the congregation;) But I think, most likely, that keeping us off balance with endless false alarms is a waste of their energy. Why would "they" even need to do it? These people will only proceed when success is damn near 100% assured. And when it is, I don't think anything can stop them.

araucaria

10th July 2015, 18:56

''Attached to wires , I'm not'' :bigsmile: I am now opting to switch from cable to sim ( wireless ) card subscription for practical reasons , long to explain , the only disadvantage so far is the FUP limit they put on mobile connections , quite yet .

But I think ..this is the difference and advantage over 'movie screen Master Yoda' we have , he's still wired .
Wifi is more vulnerable than cable - just zap a few satellites, job done.The receiving and transmitting end of any wireless system is connected to... a wire!
Of course, but this is irrelevant to the point I was making.

Wind

10th July 2015, 23:21

Calz

11th July 2015, 00:48

Let's look at this rationally.

So far pretty much none of the major predictions have come to fruition. That doesn't mean that something big couldn't happen next week, next month, next year etc. I do think that there are many big, dramatic changes ahead of us, but they don't have to be negative things. They can be positive events instead! Haven't we had enough of this misery here on Earth? I know I have.

I think that through our actions and intentions we have already shifted the timelines and many bad things could have happened, but they didn't. I think we will start to see some really positive changes ahead of us, but there will certainly be some bumpbs on the road, we just must not get distracted or be fearful and pessimistic about it. We need to remain hopeful instead.

Let me preface that you are one of the members I admire most here.

Those that can plunge into the depths of the deepest rabbit holes and yet, somehow, come back with such positive and optimistic energy.

Having said that ... and regarding rational thought ...

This time feels ... different.

For a country that is so dramatically in debt to spend so very much on military ... training ... simply doesn't pass the sniff test.

Like ... this military is in need of ... training???

Rationally thinking ... why in the world would we now have such a remarkable level of positioning of heavy military equipment ... many with the UN markings???

This (IMHO) is their end game.

Yes predictions and warnings have come and gone.

Used to be when a country was surrounded by armies ... that was a *bad* thing.

In this case ... the traitors are so prevalent that the armies have completely and totally infiltrated the country and stand ready.

How many rounds of ammo and how much weaponry have been issued to non-related domestic entities???

Post Office ... IRS ... Homeland Security ... it goes on.

That is my ... rational thought.

The gloves come off ... now.

RunningDeer

11th July 2015, 03:17

I was inspired with Lisa M. Harrison’s points. And BTW: Mark Passio? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83382-Mark-Passio-Natural-Law-the-Real-Law-of-Attraction&p=975424#post975424) If you happen by, I’m not here to debate you. I’m appreciative for the review, POV(s) and suggestion(s).

Warning: strong language OR here’s the transcript:

She gave an impassioned response by the end of the round table discussion of all the tricksters’ efforts:

1:39:02 (https://youtu.be/bExL4dOtx5w?t=1h39m02s) - Whatever. Whatever the plan is this week. Who cares? Because it’s interesting watching all this unfold. The trouble they have gone to. They built the Hadron Collider through how many different countries? And they’re spending an absolute fortune on it. How...scared...they...must be of us? They’re vaccinating us and jabbing us and poisoning us and programing us and controlling us within an inch of our lives. How...scared...must they be? It makes us ask the question, “What are we capable of? What is it that we are truly capable of that they have to go to such extremes?”

1:42:08 (https://youtu.be/bExL4dOtx5w?t=1h42m08s) - We come back to the movie, “Ants”. This is our planet. I don’t give a toss who was here before. Right here, right now this is Planet Earth and we are Earthlings. It’s ours. They just don’t want us to figure that out. They’re desperate. They don’t want us to figure that out.

1:45:01 (https://youtu.be/bExL4dOtx5w?t=1h45m01s) - And it’s not about ownership or control. It’s about Earth creating experience between us and the planet. The planet is prepared to provide the playground for us to experience. That’s it. She provides the playground. We’re having the experience. We have an agreement or an arrangement or a treaty or whatever you want to call it, to do that. It’s mutually beneficial. It’s symbiotic. It’s loving. It’s all of those things. We look after her. She looks after us. We have an experience. She provides the space for that. That’s the relationship.

1:53:01 (https://youtu.be/bExL4dOtx5w?t=1h53m01s) - This goes back to what I was say about subjective and objective. What if evil, darkness, all that…it only exists as a concept? It’s a thought that was injected into the consciousness. And we see it in our lives. We see it in the world. We believe it because we bought into it. What if it’s nothing more than that and we can eradicate it just as simply by refusing even to acknowledge that it exists? Because you can’t have dual frequencies. They cancel each other out. Yes, it (duality, rape murder, etc) exists because we brought it into reality because the whole concept was injected into consciousness and now it’s manifesting because we’re creating it.

Bradley: How do we get rid of it? Or stop the concept that we manifest?

Lisa: We stop believing in the duality. We stop acknowledging and believing in two masters as such, good and evil. The simple concept of ‘lack’ is believing in two things. Believing in abundance and believing in lack. Either I am abundant or there is even the slightest opportunity that I could lack something. The two can’t co-exist.

Bradley paraphrased: This is why the Illuminate uses mind control. They’re trying to inject all of the concepts of duality back into us.

Lisa: And this goes back to when we said, we are the one that create. They need us to create.

Bradley: But don’t you create division for other people as well?

Lisa: Yes, but you hold that vision for everybody else. When you see somebody in lack, don’t acknowledge it. See them in abundance. Hold the image of them in health. Don’t see them in pain. Hold the image of peace. We can do it for each other.

Every time you come into contact with somebody, every time you engage, hold the fact that it’s your game. They’re stepping into your game. And in my game, there is only one truth. In my game, you are peaceful. You are healthy. You are abundant. This is my game. And they will automatically because of higher vibration attune to that. Or they’ll leave.

One People Round Table, July 7th, 2015
bExL4dOtx5w

<3

ThePythonicCow

11th July 2015, 03:44

ThePythonicCow

11th July 2015, 03:49

I hear you.

And yet, at the speed and volume with which these doom n gloom scenarios roll in, one might find oneself doing much more preparation for disaster than actual living.

Yup - in the light of hindsight, most of us will find that we over prepared in some ways, and under prepared in others, and totally missed the boat in yet others.

So ... ?

I for one will keep on doing the best I can to understand and live and adapt and prepare.

Calz

11th July 2015, 03:50

And what do they gain or lose if a very small number of perceptive people survive or thrive or not?
Beats me ... but I wouldn't mind if me and my kin were amongst the survivors :).

In other words, I'm not doing this for the ultimate goal of influencing the gain or loss of the bastards in power. I'm doing this for the benefit of myself, my kin, humanity and all that's good.

I tried ... and tried ... desperately to convince my wife to take our family abroad (as Bill has suggested) but to no avail.

The hold of the matrix is so strong.

She thinks I should ... see someone about my problem ...

I am ready to cross ... no problem there ... my pain is that I have two children and what have we left them with???

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/shame.gif

ThePythonicCow

11th July 2015, 03:56

DeDukshyn

11th July 2015, 04:04

I am ready to cross ... no problem there ... my pain is that I have two children and what have we left them with???
Sometimes, it's the ones who have the greatest challenges who grow the most.

In which case, we may well be the greatest generation ever ... for the challenges we've left our children :).

That's the great things about humans, adaptable at every step of the way! If we choose, we can always say, ok here we are now, I want to be "here" and hers' what we need to do ... We are a mess for those that "control" us ... hence the multiple changes in government styles in the last 2000 years ... "they've" actually been in damage control for a bit over 2000 years .... :)

That said let us not become complacent ... :)

observer

11th July 2015, 04:07

For those with the patience to listen to an entire interview, it seems appropriate to re-post a video RunningDeer planted in the CERN Thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed&p=976987&viewfull=1#post976987)earlier today. I believe this will answer all the questions that have been expressed in this thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e76PKij6NQ
The interview starts at the 32:50 mark.

Thank you Paula for posting this video on the forum.

....And, it's been good to have known you, Calz.

Website: anthonypatch.com (http://www.anthonypatch.com/)

giovonni

11th July 2015, 04:33

will share this here

a noble anthem ...

i am a poor wayfaring stranger
traveling through this world of woe
and there's no sickness, toil, no danger
in that bright land to which i go
i'm going there to meet my brothers
and from that land we'll find a way
i'm just a poor wayfaring stranger
looking for a brighter day ...

one of these mornings and it won't be long
all men will rise, stand side by side
than hand in hand we'll stand together
vibrations calling all mankind
i'm going there to meet my brothers
and from that land we'll find a way
i'm just a poor wayfaring stranger
looking for a brighter day ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWkq3RwhzeU

Calz

11th July 2015, 04:40

Thank you gio

You are one of so many that I am so grateful to have crossed paths with in these forums.

You have brought so much to so many.

gripreaper

11th July 2015, 04:42

OK, just read this thread. Good on ya Calz, love hanging out with you on the old fogies music thread, or at the Ranch, or in the Here and Now. Yea, ya'll know who you are, those who have held the collective energy of Avalon, not just an internet connection as ya'll know. You're Bodhisattva's, the keepers of the flame, the holders of the dream, the carriers of the sacred crystals and the ancient knowledge, the opening of the book of Enoch.

We didn't come here, experience the very depths of duality, the total destruction of this planet, the near extinction of humanity, to lay down at this time in history and "do it all again" a second time. So the internet blows up and we lose this venue? The hackers will build another internet. The human spirit is eternal and cannot be quashed! We'll meet in the dimensions once we are forced to communicate etherically.

Let me just say, I'm not letting go of the collective dream. I've been here since the beginning, since the very first differentiation from source, the first polarity of the opposites, and I agreed to stay here till the last soul returns differentiated (except for those who chose to sever themselves from source and go psychopathic and remain in the lower terrestrial carnal goo). They will just go back into source without their own consciousness, non differentiated.

They're days are numbered because they are vampires and cannot survive without sucking energy from us. When we get tired of that game and are no longer willing to let them suck on us, then all we have to do is withdraw. The old structures of the old paradigm will collapse, and they must collapse in order for a new paradigm to emerge. So, be grateful when you see the debt pyramid turn and begin to eat itself. It is designed for more and more debt to be piled onto more and more debt, and when everyone is tapped out, it will collapse. That's not that far off.

Now, go look into the eyes of a child and see the radiance in them. See that these children carry the collective dream in their very DNA, and that is why there is such a war on them by the loonie-naughties. Feed them good healthy food and keep them away from the toxic vaccinators, protect them. They are coming in with their psychic higher brain centers activated, and I see the dharma emerging and the collective dream being fulfilled when I look into their eyes. Their eyes are deep and they sparkle.

So, grow where you are planted and do what you can. You'll be alright, or maybe you wont, but you'll go out in a blaze of glory, and your immortal soul will probably laugh and want to jump right back on that roller coaster and go for another round, or you may be done puking, I don't know. Grab a hot dog, suck it up and go for it again!

It's been one hell of a ride, hasn't it?

Calz

11th July 2015, 04:54

Grip ... you are among those that have my highest of respect.

I truly hope we can continue to hear your voice here.

Iloveyou

11th July 2015, 06:55

Even with my tiny bit of a beginning of a new understanding I feel this time the threat, the game is different, more realistic than it ever was. Our (re-)actions, our solutions will be different too. We'll step out of familiar ways of troubleshooting- and emergency action patterns.

They'll never get down our beautiful Mother. Her powers are of a quality that they cannot even touch slightly. We haven't yet realized fully that we are a part of her in the most literal way. Don't underestimate the female power (in every individual as well as beyond) once it is activated.

Holding a place of emerald and malachit green, shone through by the deepest gold, anchored in the heart of the jungle. Streaming a stream of support and encouragement across the ocean, as long as I breathe.

heyokah

11th July 2015, 09:51

.........

Let me just say, I'm not letting go of the collective dream. I've been here since the beginning, since the very first differentiation from source, the first polarity of the opposites, and I agreed to stay here till the last soul returns differentiated (except for those who chose to sever themselves from source and go psychopathic and remain in the lower terrestrial carnal goo). They will just go back into source without their own consciousness, non differentiated.

............

I think you have taken the Bodhisattva Vow. If not in this life, you did so in another lifetime.

*

"Beings are numberless, I vow to save them

Desires are inexhaustible, I vow to end them

Dharma gates are boundless, I vow to enter them

Buddha's way is unsurpassable, I vow to become it."

*

Grip, I loved your post. Just 'Thanking' you, was not enough for me.

betoobig

11th July 2015, 11:48

Wouw everybody....
Just in case: Thanks to all is being just great to found you all. Mch LOVE to all.
Calz you sound a bit sad, we need you strong now more than ever; we are almost here!!
I want to re-enforce what Wind said so here it is again:
Wind: "Let's look at this rationally.

So far pretty much none of the major predictions have come to fruition. That doesn't mean that something big couldn't happen next week, next month, next year etc. I do think that there are many big, dramatic changes ahead of us, but they don't have to be negative things. They can be positive events instead! Haven't we had enough of this misery here on Earth? I know I have.

I think that through our actions and intentions we have already shifted the timelines and many bad things could have happened, but they didn't. I think we will start to see some really positive changes ahead of us, but there will certainly be some bumpbs on the road, we just must not get distracted or be fearful and pessimistic about it. We need to remain hopeful instead."
Love all the way.
Juan

norski

11th July 2015, 12:38

Calz,

I agree for a number of reasons. Too many synchronicities piling up. Earth Wind and Fire's September popping up on multiple devices in odd fashions at home. Animals behaving strangely. People generally agitated.

The significance of the stock market, United Airlines, Wall St journal and other recent "glitches." Beta testing for bigger events no doubt.

Although I'd like to say "SO LONG AND THANKS FOR ALL THE FISH" I can't leave. I run a shelter for rescue cats (yes we have food stores and live in a rural area). I only pray I can keep them safe or give them safe passage. No one seems to address what will happen to all of the animals.

Blessings to all,

K

Lost N Found

15th July 2015, 00:03

Calz, I am brought to tears over this thread. It is hard to say in words what true feelings from heart and soul express. I for one do not believe we will stop or be put down, Our lives, love, essence will continue no matter what the dark side tries to do. This Jade Helm thingy I see more as a psyop and yes it could be some what real but I live in one of the States that it is suppose to take place and I have not seen any of the fear porn stuff that is all over the internet these days. I also do believe that this internet will continue simply because where life is life will always find a way to continue, that is somewhat a quote from one of those Jurassic movies but It has a solid ring of truth.

Some one else I know has stated that they fully intend to be around for the duration of this existence here in this plane of flesh and soul searching. Well I do also. I have stated to my closest loved ones that they, the dark ones if you will can have this flesh but they will not get the soul, so that in itself gives peace and I can find that bright light to guide me through this dark time of SHTF stuff. There is always the light figures here and always will be. This forum will be here even through the rough times. There are so many lights, It is way bright and you are surrounded by this. I may be wrong in my thinking but you are a part of the whole we are all part of the whole. Another light brother has said that we should all look in the eyes of the children and keep them safe to come into their own, May not of stated that right but I do agree with it. Here is something to listen to if you get the chance, The Moody blues Album Children's, Children's, Cgukdreb's, will bring peace.

Stay here and you have said that. Know that the love flows like a river and jump in. Love from a brother

Calz

16th July 2015, 17:29

Most of my time here was spent trying to keep the "vibes" light despite what the times seem to suggest we now face.

I don't mean to bring anyone down or take away from what fuels those with continued optimism.

I fully understand that "reality" trickles down to 3D physicality and it seems my view is limited to looking at the ground level.

Some I know and trust are quite convinced things will result in a dramatically positive outcome.

I hope they are right ... after facing up to a lifetime of lies at most every level ... I now simply look at what I can "see".

Those with deeper metaphysical understandings or suggest we are simply jumping timelines ... hey ... good on ya.

I look at what appears remarkably obvious ... and wonder why it isn't clear to everyone else.

There are no saviors coming ... up to us.

I won't list any more reasons beyond what I already have in this thread (there are many) ... I will simply offer hope that I am wrong for believing such ...

I have zero doubt Gaia will be fine as well as our souls.

https://s-media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/96/6d/0b/966d0b2b2c2556ae7c555f1e606db58d.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8hTm-0Pf84

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyEkaGUQ5Tw

araucaria

16th July 2015, 18:27

Since we're quoting Tolkien, remember the job only gets done through the nasties:

Hopefully, their desire for self-preservation will lead to their own downfall.

p.s. Once Upon a Time in the West; one of the best movies ever made.
Or The Lord of the Rings (the book):

The illusion of a crowning moment of ultimate achievement is actually the cause of your undoing. This is the message at the end of The Lord of the Rings where the actual final clutching of the coveted ring sends both Gollum and the ring toppling into the abyss. There is no ultimate prize, just what people in business call milestones.

Ernie Nemeth

16th July 2015, 18:31

I'm not going to butter you up. It's not my place. I follow you , though, and I know some of your story. You have always kept the peace and held to higher standards than most here.

I am not going to survive a systems crash if food and shelter and rule of law disintegrate. I don't want to. My sensibilities will not allow me to live in such a world.

But I am not the least bit afraid. I don't worry about death - it will come when it comes. Just like I will not have my chest cracked open for a bypass or new heart valves or any of those incredibly invasive medical procedures most would go for. And no radiation and chemo treatments either. And no pills or drugs. So I am already set to die if I become unhealthy - unless a healthy non-invasive alternate therapy is available instead. I have no faith whatsoever in our medical system. Yet I have to pay 60% of my taxes for our healthcare system that I will never avail myself of no matter what.

Rumors rarely affect me negatively. I don't believe most of their stories anyway. Sure there are aliens, why wouldn't there be? Yes there is most likely a breakaway society where most of our taxes and goods disappear to fund and outfit. Yes there are agendas on this planet that has nothing to do with humanity. So what, it's been like that since way before recorded history. They lie and cheat and mislead the public - hell, my father is the first one ever to lie to me, it's human nature, they say. Who cares.

God is dead because our god is too little. Not because there is no god. The bugger is very good at hide and seek and we're it!

Every country on earth is in debt up to their eyeballs. Why? Why is there no country on the planet with a surplus from taxes collected from these bankers and their massive profits? Why? - because we don't ask that question. Where is all this money. Canada just made a $16bln payment to its central bank, Greece injected, what?, $112bln? Where's our cut in the form of taxes? I got to say this again - IF ALL THE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD ARE IN DEBT.....WHO THE FUUUUCK HAS ALL THE MONEY?!?

I could go on.

Calz, don't go! We will regret it. And so will you.

RunningDeer

16th July 2015, 18:32

Some I know and trust are quite convinced things will result in a dramatically positive outcome.

I hope they are right ... after facing up to a lifetime of lies at most every level ... I now simply look at what I can "see".

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Animals/Deer-popcorn.GIF

I spent a couple of hours in the state forest today. I caught myself saying this is what it’s like to be happy and peaceful for no reason. Then I watched myself cancel it out and replace it with a belief that it’s impossible to sustain this quiet-intensity. Then inner knowing reminded that happy and peaceful is “the normal”.

Now I get it. Anything that may or may not happen is okay because now I get it. Carefree. Worry-free. All the rest is a mind game.

I walked out of the forest both tall and rooted into Mother herself. I'm filled with..."I’m as prepared as I can be, need to be. This spirit-filled body holds the space and that’s plenty enough."

RunningDeer ♡

onawah

16th July 2015, 18:46

Calzy, please take heart, my bet is we will still be here to share more insights in the days and months and years to come.
It is precisely because of many of the kids who are being born and coming of age today that I am hopeful.
So many of them seem to know a lot more than the rest of us, whether they are saying what they know or not.
I don't think the kids who are coming here from far away are coming here with any intention of being martyred, but of ushering in a new day, and the ones who are coming back, who have been here before, are probably going to be catching on quickly when the new leadership takes charge, and it's going to be something to see!

And what do they gain or lose if a very small number of perceptive people survive or thrive or not?
Beats me ... but I wouldn't mind if me and my kin were amongst the survivors :).

In other words, I'm not doing this for the ultimate goal of influencing the gain or loss of the bastards in power. I'm doing this for the benefit of myself, my kin, humanity and all that's good.

I tried ... and tried ... desperately to convince my wife to take our family abroad (as Bill has suggested) but to no avail.

The hold of the matrix is so strong.

She thinks I should ... see someone about my problem ...

I am ready to cross ... no problem there ... my pain is that I have two children and what have we left them with???

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/shame.gif

Rocky_Shorz

16th July 2015, 19:02

No not leaving ...

Not to sound dramatic ... 5 days until Jade Helm 15 "officially" starts.

Cal

Bush has a broken neck after his Cartel started robbing Californians...

you think I get pissed about gas prices, imagine if they took my internet away...

they aren't stupid, the illuminati understand who and what I am and are on egg shells hoping I don't go Postal...

don't worry my friends, no huge changes are going to happen, we are going through a gradual transition.

ETs handed the technology to Russia to turn our carriers into floating bathtubs...

the war machine is done, Plasma energy is out of the bag...

these wimpering wimps, are losing their control over us.

We have Trump moving into the white house for two reasons...

one to sign the bankrupcy, and move to the new system

the other is to walk up to Obama, shake his hand, and say...

You're Fired...

then his career will be complete...

3(C)+me

16th July 2015, 19:32

I worked damn hard to get to the place that I am at now, I thank source daily because I can sleep with no worries. I gave up a lot, went through some brutal changes, had to let some long term friends go and had to deal with my shadow self and all those parts of myself I hide from myself for so long.
I am not going anywhere anytime soon. I am going to stick around to see how it all goes because I want to be here for the big show or long transition.
I am going to be here come rain or shine.

Lost N Found

16th July 2015, 23:01

Well Calz, Looks like there are so many folks that want your presence around. See, you can be here and we all gather down in the river to pray. Well I can't say much more than I am glad you are here and I will be here for all of us no matter what. All of these Posts give heart and do give positive feelings. Just a gift, It is hot here and the beer is cold. I see the blue sky and feel the love and light and know that we all will be here to give. CCCME we all work damn hard to get where we are now and I just enjoy it. Thank you all for being here in this time.

Bob

16th July 2015, 23:31

So Calz good buddy... I still remember yur great post on Tot welcoming me there..

Bob is in the house???

sweet!!! http://www.pic4ever.com/images/47b20s0.gif

http://files.sharenator.com/Funny_Signs_Bob_26-s600x450-278792.jpg

Sure gonna miss ya.. party on dude!

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Desire

17th July 2015, 02:59

You are protected Calz.Feel it

love you
Desire

Calz

18th July 2015, 10:13

God is dead because our god is too little. Not because there is no god. The bugger is very good at hide and seek and we're it!

Ernie you are one of the ... sensitive ones.

You have access to information that many do not.

That said ... psychic information need be balanced.

I held off in a music thread ... but will post this here in hopes that members will not misunderstand the intent.

The concept of "god" is so varied and so misunderstood.

Enki or Enlil ... angry jealous god or loving god???

... or something much GREATER???

My honest opinion is the globalists will follow through on their holographic trickery whether regarding false flag asteroid attacks (aka deathbed admissions) or those darn pesky invading aliens.

Who wrote the bible?

Who changed the bible over the years?

Why are so very many convinced of bible prophecy that they are oblivious to anything else?

Why are so very many (name one country who is not) eagerly marching towards bible prophecy for the "end of the world" ...

wait ... what ... ???

wake up peeps ... time grows short.

Posting a song that needs an alert to religious and language sensitivities.

It'll piss many off ... if you don't want to go there then don't ... you know ... like not facing what we as humanity must now do ...

(my view of the "Creator" has nothing to do with this ... "She" is Gaia and that is another story ...)

(oooops ... guess I have gone just a bit off topic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TdmFfigXSo

Ernie Nemeth

18th July 2015, 11:16

The reason so many believe those prophecies or any other dogma is because it is easier than searching for your own truth.

Avalon has disavowed me of so many lies and introduced so many obscure topics that it was only natural that one day I would question my most fundamental beliefs. It worked! And I am grateful.

Like I've recently said a few times, there are some with such long agendas that unless you've been exposed to it in some intimate way it is hard to believe some can plan so far in advance and then stick to it.

I like to think that the side of good has such forethought. When they are needed, truly needed, they will be there - ready to do what must be done. Actually, I think most of us will.

I heard it said recently that only 2.5% of humanity is good, the rest straddle the fence or are downright evil. I don't think so. I think almost everybody is good, they are just under a spell - they'll snap out of it when the time is right, I know they will. And when that day comes there will be so much goodwill wafting around that everyone will suddenly have a change of heart.

Until that time, we have only each other.

I know I come across as a bit of a bore, maybe even snobbish, but that is just my public face. I am best one-on-one. You'd be surprised, perhaps.

My pain is false, I am not a victim. Nor are you.

I love you, Calz. Believe it or not.

Peace brother

Deega

18th July 2015, 11:34

Hi Calz, I don't think that the Globalists will shut the Internet, they (Globalists) and their workers (slaves), and their collaborators (other Globalists) use the Internet constantly. There is to much money (again) involved, it bring in taxes (I know, on our back) to the Banksters, why cut the inflow, if there is something, it will opened up more and more reaching Underdeveloped Nations (as the Globalists qualify them).

Even the Globalists have a hearth, for money I should say!, not to save the Earth, or, there is money to be made, but they too have children, and they usually bring in lessons, so who knows.

In your last post, you were asking who wrote the Bible, you already know the answer, the Jewish writers of yesterday, based on the Sumer and Mesopotania History and then the Jewish People History.

Why so many people believe in the Prophecies of the Bibile? I think that we are all insecured, we were brought to Earth, not knowing who we are, where we come from, where we're heading, no wonder so many people believe in these prophecies, I don't particularly! My Gods are what have me living, the Air, the Water, the Earth, the Fire, the Eather, the People, the Universe like you probably!

And whatever happened, we will try to find a way to go with the flow the best we can, I guess!

Blessing to you Calz.

Calz

18th July 2015, 11:40

My pain is false, I am not a victim. Nor are you.

I love you, Calz. Believe it or not.

Peace brother

I love you too Ernie ... no reason for belief.

So ... what shall we do?

What can be done?

You see things from a ... different angle ... all ends up in the same space.

There are a lot of members here.

Many suggest our reality is formed from several levels and that is what comes our way.

I don't know ... but I don't have any doubt regardless.

Ernie Nemeth

18th July 2015, 11:51

What can be done? I would have said have faith and trust in the good in this world. But I suspect faith has a lot to do with our current problems. Trust is another thing. Trust is born of knowledge and experience.

What can be done? We are already doing it.

I don't think there are any specifics, just keep on keeping on.

betoobig

18th July 2015, 11:53

Still here, loving you all...
Juan

sunpaw

18th July 2015, 16:32

- Maybe you got overwhelmed by 'humanity' on one side and finding a solution for yourself and extend that to a small circle (loved ones...) on the other (is it possible to balance that alone?)
- Having noticed yourself (sensitive maybe and aware(er)) that energies are different - and noticing others notice too. Again what are you actually try to balance. Others are all others, with different motivation, intent)

Each point so far is rather huge.

I experienced being 'not me' while I actually thought I was 'better' because 'I notice, I am aware, I prepare, I act' - last year.
I went over board, frantic. How so?

I want to be happy, I want the place to be a nice one. So I do what I can. So I also wanted inform myself, notice for myself..
However my connection to 'something is up' led rather to open the door to destruction rather than being prepared.
I went crazy when a storm with heavy rain hit and I wanted to save my tomato plants (literally). However they had grown within the dryer rack - so I needed them 'untangled'. I even asked for help - the storm already there. The person at least understood my point, but also realized it can't be done. Instead of going with the flow (and GETTING the situation) - I wanted them out and save and proof a point I guess. I thought a fast move like with band aids would do the trick. It didn't and I repeated and repeated. I was totally worked up - I needed to save my plants.
I actually ripped away the fruits and leaves, had the plants badly damaged. I had screamed and ranted at the person, and all the while (like 5 minutes) the storm (weather) passed.
I could have just stand there, enjoying the elements, shielding the plants - instead I caused destruction on so many levels. On myself too - bc I realized I destroyed, attacked and felt bad. Besides having damaged my plants.
It seems ridiculous, just some plants and couples fight. But it isn't. Doom sneaking in was like a blanket on my knowing, experiencing, confidence, .....
I KNEW and EXPERIENCED bad stuff can be handled - just differently. From me, from trust. I didn't trust the elements, the plants, the person, I was out of touch with myself.Driven and even thought I am right.

So I closed the door (where the doom came through). I look for uplifting even when its about serious topics. I reconnected with my inner strength, my wish to experience good, to be happy - even if bad stuff happens along the way. I thought about (and we talked then about) just leaving.
But we like it here. And there is a sense of defending that. Nobody showed up, bullied, beat, shoot - still there was damage and destruction, shaken people - without lifting a finger. Other than maybe typing up some doom gloom which connected to my engaging with my surrounding.

I want other people too to not to be forced to leave. By going away - I can't expect that.
Going away was going back to myself first.
And its hard to imagine humanity as whole or more than a 'big word'. Humanity - goes back to the strangers on the bus, the cashier, my class, coworkers too.
They might not look up and notice chemtrails, they might not realize what is going on politically, they might think ETs are syfy.
However they try to be happy, try to work hard and be good, try to get better health. They might be sensitive without realizing - carrying the weigh of the world on their shoulders too. Which shows by no happy facial expression, getting irritated by little stuff - and so don't even have time to look around.
So I carry with them and give them a good thought or a smile. I connect by looking someone in the eye who cleans the street. To people (when I get groceries for instance) I say thank you and please and have a nice day - because I mean it.
I feed birds still - because it feels right even though others think otherwise.
Home is where I am happy. If I would leave because I fear - I couldn't express myself and its just another place where I am not happy.

I am not saying you shouldn't leave. It should be for the right reasons - reasons for you. You don't have to carry the weight alone and leaving to a quieter place might be needed so you won't get crushed. Let it be then to power up yourself, to get out of the chaos. Not out of fear, but to get a different view on stuff.
If you leave because you somehow feel anxiously driven - it probably isn't you. At least it wasn't me when I felt driven. Or it was a part I identified not useful and not healthy and not bringing happiness I wanted in the first place.
Its not selfish to want to be happy. From there I expect I can actually help. Me, others.
And being anxious - I am on the suffering side of humanity under the heavy blanket. And why? Because of the little door open, doom sneaking in tarnished as 'I care, I share, I am concerned'. Which held my inner trust hostage and kicked me around - and I destroyed.
I think its possible you might experience the same - so I wanted share my experience and thoughts.

Find your inner trust.
If things really go bad - it might be all you have - yourself. And its all you need to start over.

I am also glad you started the topic - it helped me to check the ground, resources.
I wish you well wherever.

Debra

18th July 2015, 23:31

30596

Don't forget you, my friend, listen to your magnificent heart and let love expand the way out. Trust.

The reality you see, is the sum of everything you have absorbed and that amount of distillation and synthesis is just incredible. You have gone there and looked it deeply in the eye and from many different directions. I am in awe of that. I honour you. And I also seriously note how freaking creative you are - how your energy moves and lights up bars from Mars to Alpha Centauri.

Calzy ...

We are still here. How about that!? We got to take that crocodile and smoke it. And ask with great curiosity and a sense of adventure, what's next? Dang, there must be something more to this life on Gaia.

There is more to me, I know. As for you, there better be :bigsmile:

Calz

19th July 2015, 04:55

Hey Z! :hug:

Thanks for that.

Seeing your name here brought back to mind ... *that* ... thread.

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You know the one ...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42360-Welcome-to-The-Pub-At-the-End-of-the-Universe.&highlight=universe

What a ride that one was eh?

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/2gwb921.gif

Perhaps not the best thread ... but certainly the most fun.

Not high on the "signal to noise" chart. Poor Paul didn't know what to make of us crazies ....

:loco:

I miss those days.

araucaria

19th July 2015, 09:20

So ... what shall we do?

What can be done?

You see things from a ... different angle ... all ends up in the same space.

There are a lot of members here.

Many suggest our reality is formed from several levels and that is what comes our way.

I don't know ... but I don't have any doubt regardless.

Maybe working on say two levels means it is better to have two problems than one. Take a sumo wrestling match. The brawnier guy has just one problem: attack. The brainier one has two problems: immediate defence, and somewhere down the line, attack. This involves turning defence into attack, which is done as follows. Strong defence for a while, then he allows it to crumble a little too much, so that his opponent, smelling easy victory, literally gets carried away. So if brain is to win, it is not brawn vs brain but brawn vs brain plus brawn (his opponent’s). Note: this is oversimplified in more ways than one to make my point. But you have two levels: the one you see (‘brawn’), and the one you don’t see (‘brain’). And when you see the little fella disposing of the giant, you need a brain of your own to understand what has been deceiving your eyes. What did he do? Hardly anything at all.

The end of Lord of the Rings is a poetic version of this, a no-brainer version where the good Hobbit is totally powerless to act, with only his and others’ seemingly passive collective will to succeed in place of intelligent action. His first problem is his inability to kill off the evil Gollum; his second his inability to cast off the ring. The poetic no-brainer solution is of course to have the evil Gollum snatch the ring from him and in the moment of victory slip over the edge of the chasm with it. Two problems neatly solved. Or, to paraphrase David Icke: problem, problem, solution.

How might such a scenario play out in real life? Well, the fall of the Berlin Wall comes to mind. The Berlin Wall materialized the wrestling match between east and west, and at that level, it marked a victory for the west. However, if you place yourself at the higher level at which the powers that be are facing off with the spiritual forces such as are present here on Avalon, then it may be seen as one moment in an ongoing scenario when brawn was made to stumble. If you are backing both sides for the purpose of fomenting conflict, then this was a huge setback, and no amount of spin to the effect that this was simply building up to something even bigger can hide that fact. Peacemaking outcomes ranged from the reuniting of German families to détente after years of living on the brink of nuclear war. It does not matter that nuclear war was never really going to happen so long as that fear loomed large in the collective psyche. And likewise, the fact that everyone thought and stated that this was a major breakthrough for peace contributed to making it exactly that – no deception could override that groundswell of reduced fear.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70254-David-Wilcock-update-2014-04-06-Flight-370-The-Straw-That-Breaks-the-Cabal-s-Back&p=819971&viewfull=1#post819971

So the fall of the Berlin Wall was a hugely positive event, as advertised, as hugely positive as it was unexpected. And how did it happen? What heroes stepped up to the plate? Well, actually none, especially not those usual suspects we call world leaders. It just kind of happened all by itself while nobody was looking. For all the reinforced concrete, with barbed wire, searchlights and armed guards on one side and painted rabbits and freedom slogans on the other, this was a highly perishable piece of infrastructure. And all this happened over a quarter of a century ago, before the Internet and the global awakening: think what positive earthshaking event we are capable of now, and simply let it be.

Here is a musical example. This 25-minute piece is called The Mystery of Time, and in it time’s mystery is being constantly in the here and now, with nothing much happening, until seemingly all of a sudden a watershed event occurs, a climax is reached; in this recording it occurs at precisely 19’33”.
UgeYpx-azF0

If this sounds vaguely sexual, then that is correct. The fact that life is basically orgasmic in nature is the reason why everything these days is about sex, in the messed-up f- word sense. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=977455&viewfull=1#post977455
Orgasm is about giving up control in communion with someone who also gives up control. Messed-up means refusing to give up control – which is how sex becomes violence. The tale of Scheherazade in the Arabian Nights is exemplary because she volunteers to get into bed with a serial rapist and killer and turn this highly unpromising relationship into a lasting happy marriage. This is the story of humanity both individually and collectively and it tells how we get from somewhere really nasty to somewhere really cool. This is the source of our abiding optimism that seems so crazy.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?27939-The-Divine-Feminine...Baha-u-llah-s-Vision-of-the-Houri&p=285610&viewfull=1#post285610

Calz

19th July 2015, 09:39

So ... what shall we do?

What can be done?

Maybe working on say two levels means it is better to have two problems than one.

I love you ... I love you all.

What a remarkable place this is.

Seems like a search engine ... put out a query and what comes back is dramatically better than what is already on the net.

It comes from the heart.

My gratitude goes so deep.

Calz

19th July 2015, 10:19

Ooops wrong thread ... sorry ... http://www.pic4ever.com/images/snapoutofit.gif

RunningDeer

19th July 2015, 13:07

Ooops wrong thread ... sorry ... http://www.pic4ever.com/images/snapoutofit.gif

This is in reference to only your smilie. ♡

Snap out of it. - “Moonstruck”
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heyokah

19th July 2015, 16:01

To all of us dancers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZFRPwrYeNA

Keep a fire burning in your eye
Pay attention to the open sky
You never know what will be coming down
I don't remember losing track of you
You were always dancing in and out of view
I must have thought you'd always be around
Always keeping things real by playing the clown
Now you're nowhere to be found

I don't know what happens when people die
Can't seem to grasp it as hard as I try
It's like a song I can hear playing right in my ear
That I can't sing
I can't help listening
And I can't help feeling stupid standing 'round
Crying as they ease you down
'cause I know that you'd rather we were dancing
Dancing our sorrow away
No matter what fate chooses to play

Just do the steps that you've been shown
By everyone you've ever known
Until the dance becomes your very own
No matter how close to yours
Another's steps have grown
In the end there is one dance you'll do alone

Keep a fire for the human race
Let your prayers go drifting into space
You never know what will be coming down
Perhaps a better world is drawing near
And just as easily it could all disappear
Along with whatever meaning you might have found
Don't let the uncertainty turn you around
Go on and make a joyful sound

Into a dancer you have grown
From a seed somebody else has thrown
Go on ahead and throw some seeds of your own
And somewhere between the time you arrive
And the time you go
May lie a reason you were alive
But you'll never know

onawah

19th July 2015, 17:16

I miss those days too!
The Pub certainly helped to keep 'dem cosmic blues at bay, for a time, anyway....
http://elmorocco.net/pictures/em2.jpg
http://www.elmorocco.net/pictures/em1.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTqBOUfYlfW6lWdCGqXJOXVbtes_lg8UPlkx2ah8od6UnhISoE8
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRe28cbTo_XQpcxS0DijTBTbwpfbDmjKkPh1V1jeJgX8MV0sG-m
http://www.alazifoon.com/pics/emdn100712monica2.jpg

Hey Z! :hug:

Thanks for that.

Seeing your name here brought back to mind ... *that* ... thread.

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You know the one ...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42360-Welcome-to-The-Pub-At-the-End-of-the-Universe.&highlight=universe

What a ride that one was eh?

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/2gwb921.gif

Perhaps not the best thread ... but certainly the most fun.

Not high on the "signal to noise" chart. Poor Paul didn't know what to make of us crazies ....

:loco:

I miss those days.