Shanghai stock market crash: A false flag operation by the elite?

[WhiteLove]

Previously I did not have time to study the recent Shanghai Stock Market crash to the extent necessary to be convinced whether the markets are really at risk of total collapse or whether this is a false flag operation by the elite!

Now I've had time to dig into this. The Shanghai Stock market has not been this strong since at least 2007. In fact, during the bubble in 2008 it was less weak than it was strong earlier this year, it rose very aggressively - this I think might very well be the long term indicator to pay attention to. When an index rises like the way it has, then advanced traders will take the profit if the rise is steep and you have a downward risk. But all of these traders having made tons of money will not want to stay outside the market when the bull market resumes.

If this was a panic scenario, then why are oil, silver, gold, USD/CNY all so flat, it does not add up. In fact, the Shanghai index was kind of weaker in early 2014 and no bear market followed. The strategy at this point in my view should be to watch what happens this week on the Shanghai Stock exchange. If the index does not resume its decline this week and oil, silver, gold, USD/CNY starts declining, then that is a very strong buy signal, could be one of the best buy opportunities in a long time. Everything else is a potential free fall.

Be careful all!

[ThePythonicCow]

If this was a panic scenario, then why are oil, silver, gold, USD/CNY all so flat, it does not add up.
We're not dealing with a linear system, and we don't have visibility into some, if not most, of the key variables. We're shadow boxing in the flickering dark with an army of (1) an octopus (massive fascist governments), (2) a giant squid (Goldman Sachs, et al), (3) a fire breathing dragon (the military-industrial complex), and (4) several bats (the NSA, MI5, et al, seeing in the dark.) Don't expect it to all make sense <grin>.

In particular, and less metaphorically, the prices in $US of oil, silver, gold, CNY, and most anything else that the $US can purchase or be lent or borrowed for, have just about reached escape velocity ... escaping from reality entirely. Soon, such prices will resemble this space destined rocket ... that didn't make it, with things flying every which way:

http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276271/Article/images/23719006/7475689.jpg

[WhiteLove]

Paul, I so much want to buy into this prop it up until it explodes scenario, I really do, get it over with so that a future of real truthful prosperity can begin. Let's see, in my analysis I tried to count for all the corruption, my gut feeling told me that this could really by the Chinese governments way of taking back the wealth from the people, to keep the people in slavery.

Let's see what this guy has to say, LOL. :muscle:

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[Bill Ryan]

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Yes, most interesting. I checked yesterday with a very good friend, an American investment broker (and a longtime Camelot/Avalon supporter) who's been living and working in China for several years. He wrote back to me this morning assuring me that everything's totally fine and healthy there.

[bearcow]

If this was a panic scenario, then why are oil, silver, gold, USD/CNY all so flat, it does not add up.

i suspect gold and silver will rise when the fed decides to raise interest rates. Most expect that to be this fall. The market makers will likely artificially keep the price down until then. Gold and silver generally trade inversely to the US Dollar.

I think the only way the market crashes in the near term is if a staged event triggers a panic selloff

Goldman Sachs has a shill named Paul Farrell who writes propaganda pieces for the website marketwatch.com. It is owned by the Wall St Journal.

Farrell is constantly spreading gloom and doom about war with China, and a stock market crash timed around the 2016 presidential election.

He is a complete tool but someone clearly tells him what to write. Maybe jade helm will be the event that takes the markets down, time will tell.

[WhiteLove]

Very interesting Bill, to get some more perspective on this I analyzed what kind of indications I see on stocks that have under-performed against the Shanghai index, for instance a stock such as Baidu (BIDU), those should appear really weak if this is a panic scenario.

And it was not that bad actually. The indication so far is that it bottomed out last Wednesday, after that it swinged up by +7% on a little higher volume, but it is currently in a critical period, so it is good to follow it up during the upcoming week, but lack of weakness here is a strong buy signal. This stock could quickly jump up to beyond 214 USD in case there is no weakness present during the upcoming few days.

[bearcow]

Very interesting Bill, to get some more perspective on this I analyzed what kind of indications I see on stocks that have under-performed against the Shanghai index, for instance a stock such as Baidu (BIDU), those should appear really weak if this is a panic scenario.

i owned Baidu for a long time, but I sold my last remaining position in it last month. The run up in this stock was a few years back. If it falls to 150 it is a definite buy. You should only buy on strength if you are a day or swing trader. Chinese ADR stocks like baidu have underperformed the shanghai exchange in general because they also trade directly on the Nasdaq or the NYSE and western money has had direct access to them for years.

[Flash]

He is talking of expo 67, when he was 20 years old (gosh, he does not have a white hair and little wrinkles, what does he do, he is around 68 years old?)

I have been seeing the "biosphere", the pavillon designed by Bukminster Fulller, since childhood not knowing it was Bukminster Fuller design!!! It is still standing and used as a biosphere, interesting place.

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/montr%C3%A9al-biosph%C3%A8re-20310486.jpg



Paul, I so much want to buy into this prop it up until it explodes scenario, I really do, get it over with so that a future of real truthful prosperity can begin. Let's see, in my analysis I tried to count for all the corruption, my gut feeling told me that this could really by the Chinese governments way of taking back the wealth from the people, to keep the people in slavery.

Let's see what this guy has to say, LOL. :muscle:

4KHUsdZeKoc

[Gaia]

The Biosphère is a must to see in Mtl....

Cela me donne envie d'aller à Montréal Flash :) Pour faire 20 ans de moins :thumbsup:

[ThePythonicCow]

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Yes, most interesting. I checked yesterday with a very good friend, an American investment broker (and a longtime Camelot/Avalon supporter) who's been living and working in China for several years. He wrote back to me this morning assuring me that everything's totally fine and healthy there.

My hunch (easier to have hunches when you've never been there and don't speak one word of the language <grin>) is that the following article from Zerohedge is making a good point: Similarities Between China's Stock Market Crash And 1929 Are Eerie (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-12/similarities-between-chinas-stock-market-crash-and-1929-are-eerie). Part of transitioning a nation from the up and coming super power, to the dominant super power, is slamming it against the wall, so that it can be restructured for its new role on the world stage. Endeavors such as this take years to carry out. The nouveau rich, naive investor on margin needs a crash course (pun intended) at the school of hard knocks. It happened in the US, with the climatic crash in 1929, and my hunch is that it's happening again, in China.

[TraineeHuman]

China is Australia's biggest customer for selling exports to. The recent G20 "summit", held in Australia, decided to cut the price of coal and of iron ore by 50%. Since these are Australia's two primary exports these days, there goes the standard of living in Australia. Meanwhile, China in effect gets a permanent 50% discount.

I wonder whether the faux-slump in the Chinese stock market had something to do with justifying that price cut.

[Lifebringer]

Either of those country's can take a false rumor to engineer (as JPMorgan did) "a run or a panic, but a long time ago this economy and the other developed country's a$$et honesty was and continues today. Most nation's know first hand who in the US stiffed them when doing business, as most people here know who may have stiffed us. When the world makes a decision as a whole NOT to continue the game because of cheating, the cards will be dropped on the table on guys like Trump, Clinton, Bush families. They will sit on their pot of worthless lies, and pollution destruction products that no one wants. WE must incarcerate those selling us pollution factory toxins like 'flu'oride, in our water and food chain. For years these "jokers of death" in the deck, have fed the world thes same medical lies, dropped multiple bombs on their people and became a "rogue representative" of our country by using the nation's name and a corrupt financial system and contractors pillaging without accountability, in our nation's name. We must separate our "nation's approval" on these destroyers. I think that's what they meant by "get thee out/to untangle ourselves from these deceitful monsters. Simply stop giving them the money to proceed any further in "control" of our government.

Seriously, there's a Nader that was in during the whole plan. Another American Snowden named Bernie who's been on the committees and knows the absolute American finance truth an unemployment numbers, actual credits/debts during Bush/Cheney the whole kitten kaboodle. He has stepped up to rally Americans as Rand Paul has. The stat quo political infrasture is about to be crumbled here this election. Issues hidden from city folks on what rural's were going through and issues urban city folk are actually part of the same plundering, only now they've mastered plundering morgage and real estate. No one actually ever owns anything/ because of life time taxes always paid on property already owned. Every financier has their ws tentacle feelers in our communities sucking the savings out and returning nothing. We are awake, and if you want to continue the charge for fairness in life and future opportunities again for our children to soar and be well educated for the future...phew! Long winded, seemed shorter in thought:idea:

here ya' go. An open book walk the talk candidate. My spiritual conscious feels good about this gatherer/truth teller for the people: pdafund.com/component/k2/item/70-25-things-you-may-not-know-about-bernie-sanders

We need a fair dealer that is firm in his convictions that this country has been getting the shaft since 1913.

Isn't it time ti speak truth to power again, only louder and with even more truth of 52 years in this government as the loan flesh and blood people's wolf for justice. Slipping a monkey wrench in their greed machinery?
Ten bucks a month can do wonders for a candidate standing "with" the people always...
America, what about Bernie?
He knows it all. What about 52 years of experience that isn't owned by elites?:confused: Sounds like a "real McCoy, imo.??

[Lifebringer]

You mean like this?


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[Lifebringer]

And WE know what nations are backed by gold not "bankster digital fee theft."

[Lifebringer]

When a WS shill is declaring war on a nation, their ego has gotten used to crushing economies of nations that won't give them their way. Won't work, LOL A.Amer. Confusios say: "US has to learn to play in the sandbox with others and not crap in it, when they've slapped another in the same sandbox.


:confused:Duhhhh, how did this happen you say. The trickle down chistled our position in the world. Pissing down the world an allies neck and calling it a "win" fall/rain, won't work on us. Their goose is cooked, they'll be lucky if they can post bail.:shielddeflect:

[Baby Steps]

Hi,
I think this is a very different situation from what has gone before
- There are limits on how much non chinese Institutions & investors can invest
-There are limits on what Chinese citizens can invest in-they cannot suddenly switch to Gold, they probably do not have access.
-Banks are state owned, so they have no incentive to do a 'bank panic' in order to kill off the competition(hopefully) and it was the calling in of debts deliberately to trigger a crash that made 1929 so bad.

The process I feel that is happening is that the Government is gradually trying to build market credibility in its Banks & Companies. There is a general perception that financial information is not trustworthy & the Government is well aware of the implications of this for the markets. So they are gradually easing in a regime of credible reporting & auditing. As this comes in, huge deficiencies are laid bare, including bad debts.

China is in a phase of slower industrial expansion than it has been. Growth will originate more from the home market. But demographics damp this down.

The fact that they are having a clear-down and bringing in more credibility (and market discipline) is a good sign of the Governments confidence long term!

Due to demographics, Chinese industrial workers are seeing improvements in living standards. If this continues, then the masses accept the trade off-economic reward for Stable Authoritarian Dictatorship.

[Cidersomerset]

I just saw this article and its a bit generic , but does give some background , maybe of interest ?

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Fighting the Russian and Chinese Community of Destiny: Did the US Try to
Crash China’s Market Because BRICS Launched the New Development Bank?

By ickonic on 13th July 2015 Illuminati Criminals, Political Manipulation, The Money Scam


http://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Chinese-stock-market-drop.jpg

Chinese-stock-market-drop

‘The tide is changing. The world is no longer dominated by the US, Western
Europe, and Japan. The Group of Eight (G8), which reverted to the Group of
Seven (G7) in 2014, has been displaced by the BRICS, which is why Russia
was not bothered when it was expelled from the G8/G7 talk shop by the US,
Germany, Japan, Canada, Britain, France, and Italy.

Across the globe, businesses and governments anticipate the normalization
of trade with Iran, with or without a final nuclear agreement between Tehran
and the Permanent 5+1 (or the EU3+3). The BRICS has begun to institutionalize
itself and move beyond the stage of being a coordinating forum for Brazil, Russia,
India, China, and South Africa. China’s New Silk Road has gained traction while
the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) became a reality in January 2015. Plus,
after fifteen years, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) is expanding.’

Read more: Fighting the Russian and Chinese Community of Destiny: Did the
US Try to Crash China’s Market Because BRICS Launched the New Development Bank?

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/07/13/fighting-russian-chinese-community-destiny-did-us-try-crash-china-market-because-brics-new-development-bank.html

[MalteseKnight]

"There are limits on what Chinese citizens can invest in-they cannot suddenly switch to Gold, they probably do not have access."

I hazard to disagree with the above statement. Vide http://agmetalminer.com/2011/02/21/china-encourages-citizens-to-buy-gold-part-1/

http://numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ArticleId=12933