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Earthlink
13th July 2015, 12:52
Everything is dying and no one cares.
Matt P
13th July 2015, 13:24
Hmmm, dare I respond without knowing exactly what you mean??
Everything that is living is also getting closer to dying? Geoengineering, pesticides, deforestation, etc?? Something else??
I care...and I try to care enough to compensate for as many others who don't care as possible. Everything around me is out of control growing and living.
Peace.
Matt
Camilo
13th July 2015, 13:27
It's a matter of perspective!
https://youtu.be/S8FW9Dbq_5o
The World is Still Beautiful
Published on 06/26/2015
With all that's going on in the world, it's easy to lose sight of the good things in life. So why don't we all stop and take a minute to look around us and connect with someone. Love, friendships - there is good in the world!
araucaria
13th July 2015, 13:31
Everything is dying and no one cares.
I’m not being facetious here: there are 3 incorrect statements right there, which for me are something to write about. You see, imperfections are more useful than smooth perfection to get/keep a dialogue going: like handholds on a cliff face.
a) you have found something to write: this self-contradictory statement ‘I don't know what to write any more’ is not much, but it’s a start.
b) no one cares: not true – you care, and I and others here care: not many, but it’s a start.
c) everything is dying: an overstatement – a lot perhaps is dying, but not the carers; caring means being alive to things.
I think there are many others out there who care and are alive, and maybe need to hear your voice. You feel you don’t know what to write: but even saying so is communicating to them that you care. Sometimes that is all one can do and all it actually takes. When someone is feeling suicidal on a window ledge or on the phone, or feeling murderous with a hostage at gunpoint, all you can do is keep talking to them, and often it works. When it works it is because something has unexpectedly triggered a response; unexpectedly means that there is no rational way to get to that point: you just keep talking, and one thing leads to another. Why it works is because what kills is isolation and communicating breaks down that isolation.
And what can you say to someone dying in a hospital bed? Tearful farewells are probably less comforting and less appropriate than simple small talk because they bring avoidable emotional isolation in advance of the inevitable physical separation. There is really nothing to say, all that counts is being there, which on an Internet forum means posting something – anything with good intent.
ulli
13th July 2015, 13:34
Everything is dying and no one cares.
Try living in Costa Rica. Actually, it's still brimming with life, there.
You will need a machete there to stop it all from engulfing you,
especially now that the rains are flooding every nook and cranny.
Or even here in Barbados where I'm spending July.
Green lush world, clean oceans, clean beaches.
And efforts being made to keep it that way.
I took this photo two days ago.
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Selkie
13th July 2015, 13:48
It's a matter of perspective!
Yes. It is not my intent to dismiss or belittle your concerns or your feelings, Earthlink, but I would like to say that the whole solar system seems to be in flux, including the Earth and the sun, and if there was life on the other planets, the same thing (mass die-offs, etc.) would probably be happening there, too. Earth is the only planet where there is life as we know it, and so we have nothing by which to judge our situation compared to the rest of the solar system. That does not make it one bit less terrible, though :(
betoobig
13th July 2015, 13:59
I want to believe animals, vegtables, minerals and us are evolving withoout dying. Is a proccess never seen before so we don´t know how it looks like. Could it look like we are all dying in a sense?
I like to think so.
Love.
Juan
Orph
13th July 2015, 14:05
The following is strictly my ramblings and may be complete rubbish.
Ahhhhhhh, but there are people who care. Their numbers may be small, but they are there. I live in a man-made jungle where Mother Earth is all but blotted out of existence. ....... But, ......... I exist. I am. Therefore I place myself in alignment with Source. Then I can "be" love. I can say hello to what little nature there is in my world.
I cannot control what other people do, or how they live. I cannot control what kind of vibrations they may produce or send out into the world and beyond. But I can control what kind of vibrations I send out.
I'm sure all of us here have felt depressed at times. I know I sure have. But now I'm learning to just be me. There are times when you have to literally just blot out everything, and I mean literally everything, and just "BE" you. Nothing else. That way you can be just your own vibrations. You don't take on all the other vibrations. Then you vibrate at your frequency, not the frequency of the world that is "out there".
TPTB want you to be tuned into their frequency. They want you to think that their frequency is all that there is. It isn't. You have a frequency. Be that frequency that is you. Don't fight them out there in "their" world. That's what they want. Don't look at "their" world and feel sadness, hopelessness and despair. That's what they want. Yes, in a manner of speaking we are living in their world, but that's because we haven't learned to totally just BE ourselves. (But we are learning).
We must stop trying to change their world. Instead we must learn to BE our world. We are our own vibrations. We are our own frequencies. Give no thought to that which you see outside of yourself. BE that which is you.
Earthlink
13th July 2015, 14:07
I know that Life is permanent. I wrote a piece called 'The River and the Tree of Life' where, the River of Life is the energy stream which IS everywhere and all the time, and the Tree of Life is the prime material plane, the constructed Universe, the world most known to us as the Biology of matter. The energy of us inhabits the matter of this plane, and all are constructed from energy. When we sleep, and even after all this time we still need to go back to the River daily, for in the beginning there was not but energy, we return to this energy stream from which all things came. Perhaps even trillions of trillions of years passed with not but the energy. And a time span again immeasurable is when energy started forming patterns, the elements, each with their own 'properties', and so the building and leveraging began. All the way up to where we are now.
But now is a constant, and so are we and everything else.
And I'm sorry mpennery, however my assertion is justified. In the summer of 2009 it grew silent here at night for the first time ever, and before was a long walk of steadily increasing discordance in the nightly songs insects and frogs sing together. In 2013 I went to The Big Gig, a place with a class 5 road (that's a joke, the road class only goes to 4, which is a trail, at best, and 5 would then be worse than that, and, it was, that road took out a few oil pans and stranded a few here and there over the many years it has been going on, until someone went and ordered a new one and then camped out for a few more extended days of r&r while they wait until ups delivered it to the local garage at the closest town) and this place is so remote, with lots of standing water, it's a wide plateau crest on a ridge in the Appellation Mountains with an amazing view over the tops of many hills to the West, and normally had always been a fest for the critters.
One wouldn't attend this gig and return home in any other condition than speckled head to toe with bites, eggs, chunks of flesh missing and personal belongings that were rife with hitchhikers (insects) when unpacked once home again. Screen netting was always employed around the few tents and tarpped locations that were kept relatively bug free, but anywhere outside these areas was raw. The latest bug sprays often discussed was absent during the 2013, recurring first weekend in August event, and, people slept outside, on the stage and on the couch behind the stage, with no netting or nuthin'.
It is as I've stated, everything is dying and no one cares.
*edited* ulli you write of the plants and the trees, and yes, in this scenario they are the last to go down, for, they are not directly dependant on the O2 in the atmosphere, they contribute to it, though in time, as they themselves can not self replicate either, they need others to pollinate them and still others after that to spread their seeds, their demise from this will be the last seen, and, that too has begun now, in 2015, I am noticing many dead trees and bushes around now. Further, if you talk to one of those hobby group members in our society known as "bird watchers" their words will substantiate everything I've also noticed.
rgray222
13th July 2015, 14:10
If you let the weight of the world sit on your shoulders it can be (and will be) paralyzing. Keeping a positive attitude takes work but can be rewarding beyond measure.
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Selkie
13th July 2015, 14:22
I know that Life is permanent. I wrote a piece called 'The River and the Tree of Life' where, the River of Life is the energy stream which IS everywhere and all the time, and the Tree of Life is the prime material plane, the constructed Universe, the world most known to us as the Biology of matter. The energy of us inhabits the matter of this plane, and all are constructed from energy. When we sleep, and even after all this time we still need to go back to the River daily, for in the beginning there was not but energy, we return to this energy stream from which all things came. Perhaps even trillions of trillions of years passed with not but the energy. And a time span again immeasurable is when energy started forming patterns, the elements, each with their own 'properties', and so the building and leveraging began. All the way up to where we are now.
But now is a constant, and so are we and everything else.
And I'm sorry mpennery, however my assertion is justified. In the summer of 2009 it grew silent here at night for the first time ever, and before was a long walk of steadily increasing discordance in the nightly songs insects and frogs sing together. In 2013 I went to The Big Gig, a place with a class 5 road (that's a joke, the road class only goes to 4, which is a trail, at best, and 5 would then be worse than that, and, it was, that road took out a few oil pans and stranded a few here and there over the many years it has been going on, until someone went and ordered a new one and then camped out for a few more extended days of r&r while they wait until ups delivered it to the local garage at the closest town) and this place is so remote, with lots of standing water, it's a wide plateau crest on a ridge in the Appellation Mountains with an amazing view over the tops of many hills to the West, and normally had always been a fest for the critters.
One wouldn't attend this gig and return home in any other condition than speckled head to toe with bites, eggs, chunks of flesh missing and personal belongings that were rife with hitchhikers (insects) when unpacked once home again. Screen netting was always employed around the few tents and tarpped locations that were kept relatively bug free, but anywhere outside these areas was raw. The latest bug sprays often discussed was absent during the 2013, recurring first weekend in August event, and, people slept outside, on the stage and on the couch behind the stage, with no netting or nuthin'.
It is as I've stated, everything is dying and no one cares.
I live where its buggy, too, and this year, we have had no wasps at all**. But then, last winter was very, very cold, and I am sure that is what killed them off. Also, all populations go through ups and downs of numbers because of food supply, or diseases, etc. Life is joyous, but hard. Or hard, but joyous. However peeps want to look at it.
But, hey, :bearhug:
**Not that I miss them, btw
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Jake
13th July 2015, 14:26
All things die, but not all things truly Live... I have a wee tree frog who lives underneath an aloe Vera plant pot on the front porch.. I shall name it Earthlink... I will reflect upon your post whenever I see the frog, or any frog... Thank you. I will reflect, but I will sing a different tune in mee heart...
Love to you,
Jake
sijohn
13th July 2015, 15:48
I care and sometimes I might care too much if that is possible.
Sijohn
RunningDeer
13th July 2015, 15:56
All things die, but not all things truly Live... I have a wee tree frog who lives underneath an aloe Vera plant pot on the front porch.. I shall name it Earthlink... I will reflect upon your post whenever I see the frog, or any frog... Thank you. I will reflect, but I will sing a different tune in mee heart...
Love to you,
Jake
Weeping.... Beautiful....♡
Still weeping....
Gaia
13th July 2015, 16:15
Sometimes in the stress and worries of life we forget how lucky we truly are. No matter how hard things are, there is always somebody else doing it tougher. Next time that you are so consumed with stress, anger, resentment or worry take the time to reflect on what you do have and remember how beautiful life really is...
Last week around my house in Sept-Îles Côte-Nord Québec...
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Dennis Leahy
13th July 2015, 16:29
Everything is dying and no one cares.
I care.
And I too undergo periods of despondency.
Keep using your intellect, as directed by your heart...and keep fighting. Passion is contagious.
Daughter of Time
13th July 2015, 16:40
Many things are dying which we'd rather see live. This is true!
No one cares? Not true!
I take comfort in knowing that as people awaken, the death of other things will follow:
- the death of old ideas
- the death of outdated belief systems
- the death of ignorance
And I may be a delusional dreamer, but I hold on to the wish that other things will die afterwards, like:
- the death of injustice
- the death of violence
- the death of racism
- the death of evil
- etc., etc., etc.,
Hold on to everything which is still alive and beautiful! There's much of it out there still! Shift your focus and perception. You will find much beauty still!
Love and blessings,
Daughter of Time
scanner
13th July 2015, 17:22
All things are not dieing . The caterpillar transforms and we are in a transformation . We will emerge like a butterfly , take solace in the knowledge that there are millions who really do care .
Bubu
13th July 2015, 17:23
The truth is you care too much most people here on avalon care too much thats why the disappointment every now and then. Not too long ago I learned not to care too much ( anything in excess is not good) I do what I want/need to do and if everything will die or live, I dont care. I was happy doing what I did. Its not my responsibility to save this planet but I will do what I think is good for this planet and everyone in here because thats what makes me feel good. The outcome is irrelevant or not that important.
I'd rather be a an ordinary person and have a nice life than be a hero and live a miserable life. At least for me.
Many people care I wont be writing this to help you on your downtime. downtime uptime is normal. tomorrow will be another day. do something nice for someone you dont know it will make you feel good.
Earthlink
13th July 2015, 17:27
I'm guess I'm going to try to get onto Iceland. In my mind right now, we have but one shot at this, and I'm going to try to go there and try. They have tons of geothermal electric, more than they ever use, (total pop just 300,000 people) and they are surrounded by water. O2 is self levelling in the atmosphere, it doesn't matter from where this is done. Does anyone here already know anyone there? I wrote a letter today to their minister of environment and natural resources, and some woman I guess misunderstood my request and answered with "open jobs are posted here:" to a link to their gov't job postings board.
greybeard
13th July 2015, 17:29
A man was walking along the beach and saw a youngster throwing something into the sea--when he got closer he noticed that there were 100s of star fish washed up on the sand---the youngster was throwing another back into the sea. The man said "There are too many,you will never make a difference"
The youngster said "It made a difference to that one" and continued to throw them in the sea, one by one.
We make a difference with every life supporting thought and action we are then prompted to take.
Life continues and there are a lot of kind people in the world
We all go through challenging intervals and I can get despondent at times.
However I have a gratitude moment every night before I sleep--I go through all that is good in my day and there is quite often something special and uplifting in there.
Dont loose heart Earthlink, better times ahead and here now.
Love Chris
Earthlink
13th July 2015, 17:33
Does anyone have any friends in Iceland, or know of any companies or such? I don't think they are as trapped, especially by money and other financial obligations as much as anywhere else these days. And like I said, they have more than enough geothermal electric and water to easily facilitate this endeavour.
Gaia
13th July 2015, 18:05
I was wondering about your request on Iceland . Have you ever tried living in the Northern Territories between the 50 th or 55 th parralele ? I have known many peoples who have not been able to live in the extreme northern conditions. If this is your wish I could help you! Write me privately please I have some good addresses in the North Québec, Newfoundland / Labrador, Fogo Island.
conk
13th July 2015, 18:28
People who care enable an energy exponentially more powerful than those who's energy is apathy or ignorance. So, it only takes a few more like minded people to truly make substantive change. If perhaps only 10% more of us carried these thought patterns the world would be remade in line with our caring thoughts and intentions. Talk to your family, friends, neighbors and encourage them to be and act differently. See my signature.
angelfire
13th July 2015, 19:09
Hi earthlink, I have a good friend who moved from Scotland to Iceland and who sees it now as her adoptive country! PM me for details.
truthseekerdan
13th July 2015, 21:50
Everything is dying and no one cares.
Well, it is the ego mind that is perceiving such... Let's also hope it is the one that is slowly dying soon...
Valley
14th July 2015, 06:57
I've learned that having a positive, productive, frame of mind is a choice we make ourselves... just as we choose to have a negative, constricting perspective sometimes. The key is to simply realize that we are choosing how we wish to be in each 'fresh' moment.
For many, it may take meditation, dancing, singing, experimental writing, or any other creative or joyous activity... to help 'disconnect' from our mental 'chatter-boxes', which can sometimes start 'skipping' like a scratched DVD or LP record that gets stuck in a groove and keeps playing the same thing, over and over again. Once we realize that we're 'skipping', we are then in a position to decide to make a new, productive, creative choice of being.
Finefeather
14th July 2015, 12:07
Everything is dying and no one cares.
Hi Earthlink
Many people I know care about things that die... in all sorts of emotional ways...and many could not care less, as long as it is not them, or their loved ones, or even those they rely on...
But there are those who look at life in a different way...which brings contentment in their lives, knowing that the time we have here is valuable and should be treated as such.
Life is a cycle and we know this because everything is born and tries to show it's beauty and usefulness, and even it's lack of usefulness... by giving us luscious fruit to eat, or some happy times with our best friend, Rover, the dog.
We see the beauty of life in people who are there for us when we are in pain or in need of help even if it is just a few words of encouragement.
We see love come and go...we see suffering come and go...all have there place and all have there reasons.
Yes everything is dying...but have you noticed that each day everything is born again...a new day...a new live...such is life.
With love
Ray
Camilo
14th July 2015, 14:52
Desiderata
Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals;
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself.
Especially, do not feign affection.
Neither be critical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be,
and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy.
© Max Ehrmann 1927
Earthlink
14th July 2015, 15:13
In 1927, it still was a beautiful world. I can not write similarly today, I wish. You know we're not exactly a group of preschoolers. We should be able to brainstorm and figure a logical path forward ... that has us actually in action next week. People just don't ... for lack of a better word, I know there is a better word, words, paragraphs to describe this, but: care, likely because they actually don't think they need to yet or something.
Aspen
14th July 2015, 16:26
It seems to me that many people feel like you do. We hear so much bad news that it feels emotionally overwhelming (and lately the media sounds more like the National Enquirer than the thoughtful in depth reporting that used to be easy to find 30 years ago). Perhaps you are suffering from conspiracy theory burnout? Time to take a break from all the bad news. Of course that does not make it go away. We don't want to be living in denial. However, it is good to protect your mind and emotions so that you can find some perspective and not feel crushed under a tsunami wave of negativity.
Taking the long view can help one be effective in creating change and find your place in helping the human collective move forward. I remember sitting in front of the TV at age 12 and weeping because of all the terrible and sad news that I had just heard from all over the world. For sensitive people it is simply too much to do that to yourself. Its like living on a diet of pop and donuts and then wondering why we feel sick. I sometimes wonder if focusing on the bad news is simply a tactic to get people to give up? The human species presently seems to be wired to focus on danger. The people who didn't focus on danger haven't survived! :)
For myself when I feel like you have expressed, I step back and allow myself to focus on the positive and the good for a period of time. To spend time with children and wilderness or a garden growing and teaming with life. I take time to remind myself that life is amazingly resilient and that the struggles we see around us are nothing new on planet earth. There have been many cataclysms that humanity as a whole has survived. There have also been many humans in history that didn't survive. There have been deaths of millions of people, whole villages, cities, empires wiped out. This has happened repeatedly. Even if humans were not on the earth at all there would still be catastrophes where whole populations of animals or plants are wiped out. Just think of the ice ages.
If you feel emotionally overwhelmed it is important to learn to be gentle with yourself and give yourself some TLC.
I think you are right in saying that people should be able to band together and turn things around. The solutions are fairly obvious after all! Maybe the fact that there are so many humans right now is creating some inertia. It is hard to change the trajectory of a large herd that is stampeding over the cliff!
There seem to be people who have given themselves over to evil selfishness, a love of power and control over others. They are afraid of losing all that. They have amassed large resources that they use to maintain their positions. I think of it as mofia types controlling different neighbourhoods on planet earth. But in the end they are like boys playing in a sandbox. Against the backdrop of eternity, what do their foolish actions gain them? But it would be nice to find a way to stop the pain and suffering they are inflicting on so many. I guess that is what sites like Avalon are all about. We are still looking for a way, exchanging ideas.
Agape
14th July 2015, 17:06
In 1927, it still was a beautiful world. I can not write similarly today, I wish. You know we're not exactly a group of preschoolers. We should be able to brainstorm and figure a logical path forward ... that has us actually in action next week. People just don't ... for lack of a better word, I know there is a better word, words, paragraphs to describe this, but: care, likely because they actually don't think they need to yet or something.
I see it similarly on some days , know what you say and feel and it's hardly the end .
The point seems to be that human civilisation reached a critical threshold ( or , to be more correct .. one of those limits on much longer scale ) where value of individual human life seems to be negotiable , irrelevant compared to the statutory welfare of 'larger whole' and its objectives .
Systems were and are being built in order to replace human force but population growth not only can't be stopped or curbed that easily so it each member of society could actually benefit from these systems and be treated with respect each living being deserves ,
the collective sacrifices- reduces value of its members to proportional value of ruling system .
I think it's what I feel that human society is suffering from, and dying for , spiritually the most .
It's present everywhere around us , human beings turned to numbers, sardine fish in global economy and transport lines , production lines ,
we get more comforts ( in certain parts of world though while others are suffering ) but very little free time and sovereignty allowance .
Children are born fast , grow fast to become part of the global production system , few people get chance to realise their full potential ,
even when lifespan keeps seemingly growing , who are our immediate ancestors .. by millions they're gone to be replaced by new millions .
It soon starts reminding me of life of bacterial colonies .. instead of advanced individuals .
The respect and value of any one being is reduced by those numbers .
It can't be quite the end .. it may get worse . But the 'mass' has its own lifetime I believe , it has to fade , like any colony , it's biologically strong yet also vulnerable .
Maintaining your sovereignty, individuality is more important than it ever was in my opinion, not giving up to the hype , collective trends , mass delusions.
:flower:
Meggings
14th July 2015, 17:44
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This quote is from Howard Zinn. Here are more things he wrote.
"The good things that have been done, the reforms . . . all of that was not done by government edict. . . . It was all done by citizens' movements. And then keep in mind that great movements in the past have arisen from small movements, from tiny clusters of people that have gotten together here and there. If you have a movement strong enough, it doesn't matter who's in the White House. What really matters is what are people doing, and what are people saying, what are people demanding."
"I've always resented the smug statements of politicians, media commentators, corporate executives, who talked of how, in America, if you worked hard, you would become rich. The meaning of that was, if you were poor, it was because you hadn't worked hard enough. I knew this was a lie—about my father, and millions of others: men and women who worked harder than anyone."
Keep on making the small part of the world you live in better for yourself and others. Out of the small things are the big things built upon.
Guish
14th July 2015, 18:38
Earthy,
I understand your stance. There's a lot of people who won't care no matter how much facts you give them. I know that it's useless to try influencing people about serious matters like media manipulation, eating habits and materialism. All you can do is do your best by connecting with others with your heart. You will see that by doing nothing to influence others, they will be influenced on their own. A lot of valuable advice by everyone here. Great to see.
Delight
14th July 2015, 18:59
In 1927, it still was a beautiful world. I can not write similarly today, I wish. You know we're not exactly a group of preschoolers. We should be able to brainstorm and figure a logical path forward ... that has us actually in action next week. People just don't ... for lack of a better word, I know there is a better word, words, paragraphs to describe this, but: care, likely because they actually don't think they need to yet or something.
We are in places like this forum brainstorming and I see you are 50 on your profile....maybe you don't know what to write anymore because you "cared" in your life and felt it made no difference or you were thwarted? I am 60 and we have been through many experiences when we age. The mounting numbers of years can add up to facing nostalgia as a remedy to disappointment. Nostalgia can create the illusions that there was "some golden time" which was "better".
Maybe 1927 looks like a better time when people sat around the nightly dinner table laughing and eating wholesome food while a sweet breeze blew the white starched curtains and everyone was happy.
That may be one experience but in other cases in 1927 in Alabama sharecroppers children were eating poorly and had rickets and there was no indoor plumbing or libraries. That is another experience. Some recorded biographies showed 1927 was a terrible year but they rallied.
In 1927, after the construction company failed, (Buckmister) Fuller was unemployed and contemplated suicide, but he had a remarkable realization. Deciding that he had no right to end his own life, he concluded that he had a responsibility to use his experiences and intellect in the service of others. As a consequence, he spent nearly two years as a recluse, deep in contemplation about the universe and how he could best contribute to humanity.http://bfi.org/about-fuller/biography
I hope you can overturn the sadness soon and then see that nothing you ever cared about was lost. It is just a brief moment here and really, the ideas that make us think "no one cares" are speaking from a place that has bitterness. Bitterness can be a medicine in its way and like all medicine is poison in quantities that overwhelm the system.
In 2015 it is still a beautiful world, a troubled world, a yearning world, an evolving world.
DeDukshyn
14th July 2015, 21:02
Maybe this is good news for you Earthlink:
Grasshopper plague hits Alberta.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/grasshoppers-latest-plague-to-hit-alberta-s-bone-dry-farms-1.3145662
Alberta prairies has a range of elevations from 3500ft (Calgary) to about 2200ft (Edmonton), so it is fairly "elevated" for a prairie province. Based on your earlier posts, this should mean the Earth's oxygen levels are not in as dire straits as you may have thought -- good news? :)
Earthlink
14th July 2015, 21:37
Well, I don't want to be anything but accurate. It's in an engineers soul to be this way, for, all you'd be doing is making more work for yourself, in the end. So, look up that new term in our lexicon, 'dead zones'. The term was created round about the year 2000 as a response to mass die offs, and it describes areas in both water and air that do not contain enough O2, and so therefore, the mass die offs. They have been increasing in both severity and frequency since first termed, and because the concentration of oxide production, and therefore oxygen depletion, is in set areas, these dead zones are today roaming the surface, in the interim, as the overall O2 level steadily declines. You would expect, and we have seen, pockets where some things remain, as of yet unaffected by the overall drop, yet there is nothing to signal an increase in O2 will ever happen, naturally or otherwise, ever again, and what remains steady in all of our measurements is a decline.
Anyway, I also don't look at anything from the mainscream media any more, have not in some time, and won't begin now. The CBC has the same unethical backers now as all media, and I wouldn't put it past them to see one grasshopper, and then write this far fetched fable regarding it.
(I did look at the 2 pics they provided, and those 2 individual g'hoppers they provided pics for are much smaller than normal, I'd say, and nothing there in those pics I saw looked "over-run" as they proclaim. I'd go even further, if we keep allowing ourselves to be subject to the pure unrestrained BS from the mainscream media, it's already over)
And, the reality of this story should be that there is a grasshopper there at all, miniature or otherwise. I've been all over eastern ontario, western quebec, new england, various locations, and in remote areas north of beijing, over the last 5 years, and, like I said, that there is one there, is news. Virtually everything, virtually everywhere, is gone, and, an appearance, while actually good news, is remote these days, no matter the species.
They spin everything without regard for anything. They get off on it, the more obscene, the more they seem to like it.
*edited*
What we should be able to do, right now and without even trying or barely looking, is each and every one of us go outside and snap a pic of the closest grasshopper, and then compare the individual artwork and colour patterns on each of their faces.
That has become our reality, that we in fact can NOT, as a group in the norther hemisphere of our Home World do that today. Some yesterday, not that long ago, we could. This is what concerns me, and should concern all of us, and the grasshoppers are but one of of millions of insect species also so being affected. I'm ringing the fire alarm, in case you hadn't noticed, and there isn't any part of me that want's to look at my arm swinging a rope that is moving an iron ball that is banging on the side of a metal bell that is making a noise as the result, in any other way than an arm swinging a rope that is moving an iron ball that is banging on the side of a metal bell that is making a noise as a result.
My mindset while performing this action is irrelevant.
*more edit*
ok, a relatively easy way to look at this.
There is 1.386 billion cubic kilometres of water on Earth and 7.665 billion cubic kilometres of atmosphere.
There are also over 1 billion registered and plated automobiles.
A conservative estimate of the rate of air flow through internal combustion engines is 14 cubic metres per minute.
14 billion cubic metres per minute is therefore the air flow through 1 billion cars, and one cubic kilometre is 1 billion cubic metres.
14 cubic kilometre per minute, is 840 per hour, is 20,160 per day and 7,358,400 per year.
DeDukshyn
14th July 2015, 22:57
Well, I don't want to be anything but accurate. It's in an engineers soul to be this way, for, all you'd be doing is making more work for yourself, in the end. So, look up that new term in our lexicon, 'dead zones'. The term was created round about the year 2000 as a response to mass die offs, and it describes areas in both water and air that do not contain enough O2, and so therefore, the mass die offs. They have been increasing in both severity and frequency since first termed, and because the concentration of oxide production, and therefore oxygen depletion, is in set areas, these dead zones are today roaming the surface, in the interim, as the overall O2 level steadily declines. You would expect, and we have seen, pockets where some things remain, as of yet unaffected by the overall drop, yet there is nothing to signal an increase in O2 will ever happen, naturally or otherwise, ever again, and what remains steady in all of our measurements is a decline.
Anyway, I also don't look at anything from the mainscream media any more, have not in some time, and won't begin now. The CBC has the same unethical backers now as all media, and I wouldn't put it past them to see one grasshopper, and then write this far fetched fable regarding it.
(I did look at the 2 pics they provided, and those 2 individual g'hoppers they provided pics for are much smaller than normal, I'd say, and nothing there in those pics I saw looked "over-run" as they proclaim. I'd go even further, if we keep allowing ourselves to be subject to the pure unrestrained BS from the mainscream media, it's already over)
And, the reality of this story should be that there is a grasshopper there at all, miniature or otherwise. I've been all over eastern ontario, western quebec, new england, various locations, and in remote areas north of beijing, over the last 5 years, and, like I said, that there is one there, is news. Virtually everything, virtually everywhere, is gone, and, an appearance, while actually good news, is remote these days, no matter the species.
They spin everything without regard for anything. They get off on it, the more obscene, the more they seem to like it.
*edited*
What we should be able to do, right now and without even trying or barely looking, is each and every one of us go outside and snap a pic of the closest grasshopper, and then compare the individual artwork and colour patterns on each of their faces.
That has become our reality, that we in fact can NOT, as a group in the norther hemisphere of our Home World do that today. Some yesterday, not that long ago, we could. This is what concerns me, and should concern all of us, and the grasshoppers are but one of of millions of insect species also so being affected. I'm ringing the fire alarm, in case you hadn't noticed, and there isn't any part of me that want's to look at my arm swinging a rope that is moving an iron ball that is banging on the side of a metal bell that is making a noise as the result, in any other way than an arm swinging a rope that is moving an iron ball that is banging on the side of a metal bell that is making a noise as a result.
My mindset while performing this action is irrelevant.
Well I've seen the grasshoppers because I live there (mind you I haven't seen the "swarms" they are further north and I just happen to have a friend who is a farmer near Edmonton); I have seen more grasshopper in the city this year than previous, and it is still early in the year here for grasshoppers ... but I doubt you'll believe anything that doesn't fit your emotional template. Its a repeating pattern despite so many other members contributions to you.
Earthlink
14th July 2015, 23:05
*more edit*
ok, a relatively easy way to look at this.
There is 1.386 billion cubic kilometres of water on Earth and 7.665 billion cubic kilometres of atmosphere, though most of the activity in the biosphere occurs within the first few hundred metres.
There are also over 1 billion registered and plated automobiles.
A conservative estimate of the rate of air flow through internal combustion engines is 14 cubic metres per minute.
14 billion cubic metres per minute is therefore the air flow through 1 billion cars, and one cubic kilometre is 1 billion cubic metres.
14 cubic kilometre per minute, is 840 per hour, is 20,160 per day and 7,358,400 per year, and nothing can survive inside those exhaust fumes.
And, grasshoppers are the tip of the iceberg in the insect world. There's still most of the butterflies, most of the moths, most of the beetles, most of the various types of hornets and bees, missing from the mix as well, not to mention dead birds falling right out of the sky all over the planet during the last decade and the countless numbers of fish and other sea species going belly up.
I don't want to argue this, I've already decided to ring the alarm, and, for good reasons.
All my life there has been a screen over any of my open windows during the summer months here, except about 4 years ago, I never put them back up, and have barely had reason to do so.
I'm not theorizing anything here, I'm simply stating real observations.
Selkie
14th July 2015, 23:26
There is no shortage of wildlife here, in western Pennsylvania. We have tons of insects and birds, scads of deer (I saw twin fawns just today) and turkey, lots of frogs, squirrels, rabbits and chipmunks. There are skunks, raccoons, 'possums, fishers, weasels, otters and porcupines. We also have bear, and there are elk not too far north of here. And that is after two very hard winters in a row. I am not sure about the bees, but the wild cherry trees are full of fruit, so something must have pollinated them.
Earthlink
14th July 2015, 23:41
Yes, pollen is food to any winged insect. They all can behave as pollinators. The thing is, this path right in front of us, should we be so daft as to actually await the complete collapse of all things, is a one way path. There is no recovery, for millions of years, (the dinosaurs were wiped out 65 million years ago, recovery is a long patient process to Nature) and as much as there may be anywhere, it remains paltry to what was there a decade ago.
As well as not having grasshoppers where I live, (did another little survey on social media the other day, not one photo of a grasshopper showed up, and if anyone lives in a city you should have already noticed the once abundant pigeon population is paltry now too, and non existent at all in some parts of the cities) I haven't seen Horseflies in a few years, Deerflies since last year, the common Swallows seem to be absent now too, and the variety of Dragonflies has also been noticeable. It's a random right across the board difference, each year less than the one before.
*got some more numbers (did this before, long ago, relying on memory has downfalls, especially if you don't use the information daily or regularly)
In 2010 there were 1 billion registered and plated cars on Earth, all countries combined. Then there's everything else. The US military and other militaries almost uses, all by themsleves, about as much as all the cars. There's tens of thousands of cargo ships these days, all diesel and each enough to power a small city. There's city busses, lawnmowers, diesel equipment, on and on the list goes.
It is virtually the equivalent to having just the cars, but they run all the time, 24 hours a day, and this is the total load world wide.
Each car pushes about 14 cubic meters per minute of air through themselves. With 1 billion cars, that's 14 billion cubic meters per minute.
They all make exhaust fumes from air, and exhaust fumes are deadly.
There are 1 billion cubic meters in a cubic kilometer, so, 14 billion cubic meters is 14 cubic kilometers, per minute.
That is 840 cubic kilometers per hour, 20,160 per day, and 7,358,400 cubic kilometers per year.
There is 1.33 billion cubic kilometers of water on Earth and 7.66 billion cubic kilometers of air, though, the biosphere and all the rain occurs in the first few hundred meters.
If we took the 7.36 million cubic kilometers of exhaust fumes produced per year, and spread it out along the surface of the planet, say 10 meters (32 feet) that would be 736 million of these cubic decameters. (10 meters per side instead of 1000 meters per side as in a kilometer)
There is 509 million square kilometers of surface area on Earth, and every year the first 10 meters of sky, the first 32 feet from the surface going up, there are 736 million cubes of exhaust fumes being produced.
The first 10 meters of air is therfore run through a motor almost one and a half times per year, or, 3 times every two years.
This is not survivable.
It never has been, and, we are all, every single one of us, being shot from the grave.
I know half of you are dizzy now, because of this activity, and it would be good, in my opinion, if we could all wake up to this soon, before we, like most of the insects birds and fish on Earth today, fall down and not get up.
*And there is a very good reason to express this deadly exhaust fume production this way. It makes adjusting the total input of exhaust fumes easy. If there are not that many fumes being produced, then the change over is not every year and a half, it could be every year and three quarters, or every 2 years, and similarly if there are more fumes than that being produced, the change over of the first 10 metres would be once every year and a quarter or once every year. Easy peasy.
PHennessey
16th July 2015, 05:33
Perhaps you're having a bout of depression? Those can come in waves. They don't define you -- they happen to you.
Selkie
16th July 2015, 11:21
Perhaps you're having a bout of depression? Those can come in waves. They don't define you -- they happen to you.
I don't want to talk about Earthlink as if he were not here, but I wondered the same thing.
In my experience, when one is depressed, it is important to recognize it. Recognition does not make the depression go away, but it is never a good idea to make important decisions when one is depressed, so recognition is vital.
Please take care of yourself, Earthlink
Earthlink
16th July 2015, 13:07
ummm ... what's to be enthusiastic about? I've been around eastern ontario, western quebec, vermont, in the countryside north of beijing (that's where the walls are) and I talk to people everywhere I go, and these observations, just.simple.observations are what they are. What is more depressing, when observing something that in and of itself is, yes, depressing, is others who blindly carry on as if it were not so.
That's depressing.
One person seeing a grasshopper somewhere doesn't, for me, compensate for the millions who are not seeing them any more, and very likely will never see them again.
Capitalism is completely out of control and has been for too long now. Everything has been commodified. Tuna fleets are systematically dredging the bottom of the oceans, with massive nets that nothing escapes, in a militaristic grid pattern that is literally, clearing the sea out. That's just one example.
Many people have started companies, and when the ones who own the company are present, those companies make as high quality merchandise as they can, they respond to users of their products, and they plan and look forward to good things for all involved with them.
However, if a company gets big, they are encouraged to make a public offering (this is just the system, and all from lawyers to economists to librarians preach this doctrine) and so list their company on the stock exchange. Un-knownst to all who do this, once this happens, it is too late for that company to remain either earth friendly or even people friendly, because what has been ongoing in this stock exchange is a repeat pattern where every 10 to 15 years the "stock market crashes!!!" and the banksters, those few in the world who have the ability to create deposits (make money) buy 51% or more of these companies, at this point (the stock market crashes are engineered in the daily newspapers, with not but stories) and they buy this controlling share of these now listed companies for pennies on the dollar. Once the purchase has been made, the "stories" in their newspapers tell a different story, and recovery commences, again, with them in control of a bunch more corps, weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
This is a repeat pattern, in the historical record, that has been ongoing. In the crash of 2008, for example, it was noticed they bought up all sort of textiles and commodity companies during this latest bought of same old same old.
Also, once this purchase of controlling stock has been made, and it includes today virtually every single corporation on the planet, that corporation now belongs to the shareholders, and they immediately insist on as much built in obsoleteness as is possible. They trim the material list, get rid of the "expensive" but high quality aspects of this company and its' members, and then also proceed to keep the company itself, broke, or very near broke. Quarterly the shareholders collect millions in bonuses, and the company remains, as I've said, virtually broke, so that the employees must spend their time finding more resources to extract, more trees to fell, more products to be sent to landfill as prematurely as is possible.
This whole planet is now owned by a small group of shareholders, who direct the course of all of the corporations now, and for whatever reason, they don't give a sh!t. It is as Chris Hedges said, our current rulers are unfit to rule. They really are not, and even the most cursory glance at what direction the spaceship Earth is headed in right now, proves this to be true.
We've been brought to an "ABANDON SHIP!!!" moment because of this.
I'm sorry if burning off the useable portion of our atmosphere is not a happy tale. How could it be?
warm regards
greybeard
16th July 2015, 13:40
Its like a balance sheet--there are pluses and minuses.
All you say is so--however when there is any kind of a disaster people are inclined to dig deep into their pockets to help--some physically get out there and do what they can.
All is not lost because there is a basic goodness in all but a few.
Chris
Earthlink
16th July 2015, 13:40
And do you know what? That was rude of me to leave out this:
Thank you very much for your concerns, it does warm my heart :inlove:
And I promise you, I'm fine. I'm finer than most. I know how to generate electric flow in 5 ways, none of which burn anything, and I have access to oxygen and its' production, and I really don't spare a thought for myself here with this, I already know that I will remain the most unaffected. I will say this though, the southern hemisphere is calling me.
araucaria
16th July 2015, 13:50
I can only quote a post I made a while back, with special reference to the final paragraph:
You got it araucaria !!!
"The cosmos is not a crate with a THIS WAY UP sticker on the side; but if that is how you see it, expect some breakage if you turn it upside down."
Light dark, polarities, whatever. Embrace everything - just remember life is perfect with all we are given - everything is opportunity to embrace the life force and the joy of being. Why bother getting caught up in all that's wrong.
More here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72808-The-Utter-Necessity-of-Staying-Positive&p=852507&viewfull=1#post852507 and here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72808-The-Utter-Necessity-of-Staying-Positive&p=852806&viewfull=1#post852806 and here:
The question of life, the universe and everything calls for a straightforward answer: are you up for it, yes or no? Acceptance is a resounding yes. If you can’t say yes, what are you doing here? Sure, you are on a planet of choice... but you simply aren’t going anywhere until you choose to say yes. If you say no, that means you want no part in this, and that is what you get.
Ok, YES it is!
Even if one escapes from one level of universe work, there is always another level where self expression is possible.
Most people need to feel comfortable and secure to get started. Put on their safety helmets...
After that it doesn't matter if one's chosen cause is a platform where one can show one's love for animals (always watching out for extremes there, too, since the crazy cat lady scenario is where that needle could quickly move into the red....)
Or one wants to come up with solutions to the food production issues... Or place homeless former mental patients into their safety zone...so many causes to chose from.
Endless menu. System change is what's needed most, in my view.
And the order has to be 1, 2, 3....not 2, 3, 1.
Can't build a house by starting with the roof.
Is your glass half full or half empty? If you are thinking positively, it is half full. Good wine is best served in a large glass no more than half full. The space is there to swirl the wine around and capture the aroma. Less (but it actually only looks less) is more. You drink it with your nose, but also by raising your arm, your head, your chest. And to make sure you don’t fall over backwards, you have to be firmly grounded as well. Drinking becomes a full-bodied experience. If you are thinking your glass is half empty, you are not enjoying what is there but fretting over what is supposedly not there. There is an element of greed in thinking you are missing out on something and always needing more. And if you did drink from a full glass, it would be sipping with the lips only, not the full experience.
No doubt the analogy of good wine is weakened by its elitist connotations: the elite are the ones who get to do this more often than the rest. But they are the ones whose glass is never full enough or big enough and their wine waiters are always hovering to refill the tiniest sip. And to them, everyone else, including their own, are like half-empty glasses.
This is a very fearful, half-hearted or inexperienced approach to the fullness of life. A beginner will play the piano with the fingers only, but a concert pianist will be pushing up from the feet to engage his arms and shoulders in crashing chords. Or you can begin to learn tennis using just the hand or arm, but if you are any good you will be straining every sinew to reach further, faster and stronger. And if you are good but lose your confidence, those are the qualities that you lose as your game falls to pieces.
This can be seen in terms of control. Learning is about keeping control while in an expanding situation. Mastery is about reaching a point of utmost control… and going beyond that point. These are not so much two different stages as two different attitudes: the master learner keeps on learning and progressing, whereas the learner learner, thinking he is a master master, prizes control over expansion and ultimately gets nowhere.
Positive thinking is simply this attitude applied to our thinking. And as we swim in a sea of analogies, we need to choose carefully between the half-full and the half-empty sort. For example, the analogy of the frog in slowly boiling water I would describe as ‘half-empty’. It presupposes a controller who is a frog-eater cooking his dinner. However, the fact of the situation is that we are all in this together, and the self-styled controllers are the ones really feeling the heat. A better analogy might be heating a liquid for purposes of purification. The scum rises to the top and can then be skimmed off easily. This process has been taking quite a long time to complete because there is a lot of scum doing what scum mistakenly thinks is the best thing to do: rising to the top. ‘The rich are the scum of the earth in every country’ (G.K. Chesterton). We are beginning to reach the stage where they can rise no further, and the skimmer is coming out.
:)
Earthlink
16th July 2015, 14:21
That is a very well written summary of two distinct "mindsets" araucaria. And yes, mindsets can run ships, even planet sized ships. It is illusory, and disconnected from reality, and most important of all: it is temporary.
Earthlink
16th July 2015, 15:16
And you know, in some cases, we do desire the cream to rise to the top as well.
First though, we are going to have to get used to the idea that we don't need everybody to participate in order to have a beautiful sustainable abundant world. In fact, far from it. We would really rather see most people engaged in things that do not necessarily generate any "profit" what so ever, yet make the world more beautiful to look at. Even if all they do is once in a while help carry potatoes in from the field, or other such tasks, many and varied, they don't always need to be active in something just for the sake of being active in something.
Most other species here do in fact display this type of arrangement with time as well.
And of beautiful, well, we need things like brotherhoods in many fields: metalwork, stonework, woodwork, musical instrument creation, on and on, and in these places people are allowed to progress with their art and become good at it, and in these instances, our world works for us when the cream rises to the top and also works in ways of permanence, where no creator truly ever wants to see their creations become obsolete, nor fall into disrepair or disuse.
araucaria
16th July 2015, 15:24
And you know, in some cases, we do desire the cream to rise to the top as well.
First though, we are going to have to get used to the idea that we don't need everybody to participate in order to have a beautiful sustainable abundant world. In fact, far from it. We would really rather see most people engaged in things that do not necessarily generate any "profit" what so ever, yet make the world more beautiful to look at. Even if all they do is once in a while help carry potatoes in from the field, or other such tasks, many and varied, they don't always need to be active in something just for the sake of being active in something.
Most other species here do in fact display this type of arrangement with time as well.
And of beautiful, well, we need things like brotherhoods in many fields: metalwork, stonework, woodwork, musical instrument creation, on and on, and in these places people are allowed to progress with their art and become good at it, and in these instances, our world works for us when the cream rises to the top and also works in ways of permanence, where no creator truly ever wants to see their creations become obsolete, nor fall into disrepair or disuse.
keep going, keep going Earthlink - then you will be totally off topic and that will be great :)
Earthlink
16th July 2015, 16:32
... are you saying I do know what to write anymore? Thank you, you're too kind. I can not take credit though, it is in the universal consciousness, and I'm just a good reader.
So then, why are there, say, in north america, 3 big auto mfgs, and not 3 million? Is there really a difference? Not really, for, while one can say that this system works, that would be true no matter the system. That is to say that the power to create deposits, in and of itself, works, and therefore, it didn't ever matter what was done.
Is it just too daunting to sit atop something so massive that it needs to be whittled down to something smaller and more controllable all the time just to be seen all in one glance? I suppose. Realistically though today we do have the ability to go the other direction, for a change, and while there was a century of dark ages, a century in the other direction now, a century of light ages, is due, for those words I used above, being shot from the grave, ring true. It really is an antiquated system, this one we plod along in, and one with a preschool sandbox mentality at it's core due to its simplicity.
I have been saying, for many years, "Let the Children Run" and this means many things, but the primary reason for those choice of words is that once older, people may change, and in a pre-determined system based on already existing written words, it's almost inevitable.
What has to happen is that someone who is here now, alive now, wakes up to themselves, and becomes the Child in that sentiment, and allows themselves to just be, and have that being have an effect.
Co-operation is another really important factor in all things as well, and this system seems to have beaten the possibility for great co-operation out of everything. Again, the need for more child like innocence and trust to exist is here now. That we already have formed great bonds and co-operative groups, through countless centuries, is suffice to believe in it, for co-operation is real and it does work, very well, and when it does, when co-operative things happen with many involved, that is when our best is displayed.
We have everything we need to move on from this point, let us do so.
araucaria
16th July 2015, 16:45
What has to happen is that someone who is here now, alive now, wakes up to themselves, and becomes the Child in that sentiment, and allows themselves to just be, and have that being have an effect.
You got it - that's what we're doing :)
Earthlink
16th July 2015, 16:55
Thank you all for participating in this discussion. In my mind, this is currently the most important discussion going on on the planet.
If we move ourselves to that place where no one and no thing ever acts alone, then we will have moved a mountain. The simplicity (simplicity is the best way, ultimately, just choose the correct ones) of little boys growing up with the abilities to become master of this great skill and/or masters of that great skill, and of little girls choosing which of these great masters shall be their eternal, yet humble, servants, is enough for all involved for the process to repeat endlessly. (hahahahahaha I made a funny : )
Looking for more in life than is there, is too much.
Co-operation needs to be respected, is all there need be here.
No one acts alone, and all will remain well. With only two hands, no one can spell out four letter words ;)
:inlove:
Earthlink
16th July 2015, 20:21
That was a nice reprieve.
However, all the words in the universe can keep us in one place. The summer solstice this year has already passed us, again, and the days are getting shorter now again. (northern hemisphere people) We really need to take this seriously and try to have something up and running in the next 3 months, or we will just loose yet more. This pattern has been established already, and it continues. The very first thing we need do in this rebuilding and restructuring that is apparently going on, is establish an atmospheric monitoring and balancing system. We need this right now, just to correct what has already transpired, or it's all over. This pattern has been established already, and it continues. Also, the liability for this work does not fall onto any one, it is a public service, and in the end that is where the liabilities will come from. There isn't any reason not to begin this work we've been avoiding or even denying.
My position is that I'll volunteer to do this, and so would millions of others from Earth right now, actually. Because of exactly right where we are right now, this needs to be our first step in building a more stable and permanent platform for ourselves and all future selves, to launch from. What we have here now can no longer even function as a free standing structure, let alone anything any would want to climb onto and launch from, in this condition it will crumble at the touch.
Unless you're living inside a bubble some how and some where right now, you would have noticed the steady stream on the interwebs of mass die offs, even mainscream media has been unable to completely ignore it, and it is everywhere, through just about all months of the year, relentlessly, over the last 10-15 years. It has been and continues to be a deluge. I'm sorry, yes, it is that bad, so we ought not sit here and watch this any more, mmmkay? The numbers are just not mathematically there any more for even another 4 more years.
Earthlink
17th July 2015, 12:45
Sometimes I think I do alot more than what is immediately seen, but never have I ever admitted that I have done enough. There is just too much to do in such a broken place.
Anyway, I have been asking people to find pictures of Grasshoppers, on social media sites such as this one, and a few others, since last year.
This is what happens, automatically, when an item such as this, a querry into "where are the Grasshoppers???" crosses the desk of one of the ones in control of the mainscream media. What is the opposite of "where are the Grasshoppers"? Well, a plague of Grasshoppers, that's the opposite of that!
Two "stories" recently came out in their mainscream media, one in the US and one in Canada, and they claim that a plague of ... you guessed it, Grasshoppers, have overwhelmed two towns, one in Canada and one in the US.
That is all it takes to get most of you to shut up about the Grasshoppers.
And all the while, if one person sees a Grasshopper anywhere, it is no solice to the many many millions who are not seeing Grasshoppers: anywhere.
I'm going to start calling this the mainscream media method of running a planet. It doesn't know enough, nor cares enough to look any further than what the status quo is trying to maintain, and if you follow it, because of its' blind patronage, you will be falling off of a cliff. With no parachute, it doesn't think it necessary, because it is not leading you to that cliff right in front of you.
However, here in the real world, not one picture of a Grasshopper was produced from any country anywhere, this year, on any of the sites where that question was asked! Last year I saw one picture, but this year: none so far.
The Grasshoppers exist today in the same place as the mainscream media's mind: in an imaginary, fake, and created world. Nowhere else, just there.
We just need to be aware, very aware, of what they will stoop to. Nothing is sacred, and everything is expendable, to them. They have become absolutely out of control chronic liars, and they have been that way pretty much my entire life, with no sign of change.
Selkie
17th July 2015, 12:52
Sometimes I think I do alot more than what is immediately seen, but never have I ever admitted that I have done enough. There is just too much to do in such a broken place.
Anyway, I have been asking people to find pictures of Grasshoppers, on social media sites such as this one, and a few others, since last year.
This is what happens, automatically, when an item such as this, a querry into "where are the Grasshoppers???" crosses the desk of one of the ones in control of the mainscream media. What is the opposite of "where are the Grasshoppers"? Well, a plague of Grasshoppers, that's the opposite of that!
Two "stories" recently came out in their mainscream media, one in the US and one in Canada, and they claim that a plague of ... you guessed it, Grasshoppers, have overwhelmed two towns, one in Canada and one in the US.
That is all it takes to get most of you to shut up about the Grasshoppers.
And all the while, if one person sees a Grasshopper anywhere, it is no solice to the many many millions who are not seeing Grasshoppers: anywhere.
I'm going to start calling this the mainscream media method of running a planet. It doesn't know enough, nor cares enough to look any further than what the status quo is trying to maintain, and if you follow it, because of its' blind patronage, you will be falling off of a cliff. With no parachute, it doesn't think it necessary, because it is not leading you to that cliff right in front of you.
However, here in the real world, not one picture of a Grasshopper was produced from any country anywhere, this year, on any of the sites where that question was asked! Last year I saw one picture, but this year: none so far.
The Grasshoppers exist today in the same place as the mainscream media's mind: in an imaginary, fake, and created world. Nowhere else, just there.
We just need to be aware, very aware, of what they will stoop to. Nothing is sacred, and everything is expendable, to them. They have become absolutely out of control chronic liars, and they have been that way pretty much my entire life, with no sign of change.
I can't say about this year, but when I was in Spain last year we had tons of grasshoppers.
Earthlink
17th July 2015, 18:16
Well, I've contacted a few people in the Alberta town where the supposed grasshopper infestation is, and, they think they saw grasshoppers, but they're going to sometime today try and get an actual photo with their cell phone, and email it to me. I told them I was with some group, and that we fact check things sometimes, as our job. Why oh why do we have to fact check our media every time they open their mouths? What is wrong with this picture?
Ascension
17th July 2015, 18:25
I have a ton of grasshoppers in my garden in New Mexico. I try not to kill anything, so they tend to thrive. Also have squash bugs which I transport to a different locale rather than kill. I must admit, I recently bought some praying mantis eggs to try to stem the problem because I can't allow the grasshoppers to go unchecked or I will have no vegetables at all. I'm trying to create balance by introducing natural predators.
If you explain how to post a personal picture, I can show you.
Ascension
17th July 2015, 19:04
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Okay, I think I figured this out. Here are some of my hopping little friends. You can see the damage they do to my vegetables.
I could ship about fifty up to you so you can repopulate. I'm not disagreeing with you about the death of the planet. I just happen to have an over-abundance of grasshoppers this year.
Earthlink
17th July 2015, 19:21
Thank you so much Ascension, this means a lot. Yes, I am out of my field, I build things, and do not normally do this, and while I'm trying to get a grasp on exactly what is going on, and the "holes" that are in Nature all over the place, I think I know now it has something to do with the Dead Zones, areas of lower O2 than their surroundings, and that these are likely being caused by traffic. Lots of traffic can produce them, at least, an area of lower than its' surroundings, and that would easily explain why some are still in some areas, and others are not in other areas.
Overall the entire percentage is dropping, this is documented, and in the interim, before it is just impossible for anything to live, I think it makes sense that something is creating these zones, and they are able to drift as a cloud, or area of the same air pocket, and that these pockets exist would also explain why whole groups of birds have been dropping dead, right out of the sky.
Earthlink
17th July 2015, 19:52
Hey Ascension, if you don't mind, and seeing as you have already learned the valuable skills required to post pictures, :o AND you have Grasshoppers!!! would you mind checking out a few more species for me??? The common Horsefly and the common Deerfly, as well as Grasshoppers, are now non-existant in my little town. None of those 3 you should have to go looking for, and you've already found Grasshoppers, so check for me, if you don't mind, on the Horsefly's and Deerfly's. We're near Ottawa, and yes, it has epic traffic congestion just like every other city these days. I also haven't seen Praying Mantis or Walking Sticks lately either. Most Butterfly's and Moth's are also absent here. And the common Barn Swallow. And I wish I had taken stock of everything that was here years ago, but what am I going to do now? Memories, it's all I have. And books.
At least the hatcheries are working these days, and at least we have them!
blake
17th July 2015, 22:10
I have to agree. People generally don;t care enough to do something about the wrongs of society. Yesterday I was having lunch with a very educated women in healthcare. The topic of Greece came up. She had no clue about how the money system of this world works. Most things in life are more important than money, unfortunately money does control the masses, and the power of money motivates those who want to control the world. So if one does;t understand the monetary system, their ignorance of their actions or lack of is helping build all the laws that enslave us. People don;t want to give up their conveniences of bank accounts and credit cards even though that is the currency that control you, the reader, whether you have figured that out or not.
Trying to explain constitutional money that puts the break on Congress from overspending, and how fiat money needs constant inflation for a debt monetary system to work. And this debt based monetary system allows the powers to be transfer the wealth of hard assets from most Americans into fiat money making it easy for them to steal anything, legally, especially personal wealth, from the masses.
When I finished talking she said she didn't understand why gold had more value than a federal reserve note. She also said she was very proud that she paid all her bills off monthly and therefore the banks were not making any money off her. My jaw dropped as I explained how her using her credit card, even though she paid it back monthly, allowed the powers- that- be to manipulate the fiat system in order to transfer hard asset wealth to them every time she used her credit card or deposited cash or checks, or wrote personal checks . Everytime she made a transaction using her card whether it was paid in full or not gave the powers that be the needed resource to use fractional banking laws to their advantage and at the disadvantage to the rest of society. Every time one uses a credit card or write a check, they are adding to the problem. That is why they put their head in the sand about how the monetary system works.
Although she is wicked smart., she didm;t want the inconvenience of doing her part by not contributing to the very beast which is ensalving and bankrupting the people of the world, so she continues to use her credit card and never uses cash or money orders just writes personal checks.
She didn't understand Greece and didm;t want to talk about it as she believes it they would find a solution, so why worry about it. She is happy they have a solution, she doesn't want to understand why a bail out is a bad thing they way it is being offered. SOmehow she thought that what is happening in Greece has no bearing on her life. I think she is thinking this is not her problem and the system will keep going long enough until she dies, and then it would;t matter to her. So much for being a good stewart of the earth and of society. I think we need to be good stewarts and hand over to the next generations a clean and healthy society. I don;t understand he lack of regard for the well being of the incoming generations. But many people don't. Most people, who do understand what is happening just find it easier to feel helpless and to continue to feed the beast instead of at least taking some small steps to not feed the monster destroying our wealth and freedom.
Since back in 1980, when I first learned about this, and changed my life style to a wealth based life style, using cash transactions, instead of a debt based life style, using credit cards and personal checks and worse yet online banking and all those conveniences that are slowly poisoning people's wealth under their noses, I have tried to inform people, but people have not changed in thousands of years. There are predators, and prey; and the prey stick their heads in the sand until they are gobbled up by a predator. The biggest predator is big money eating up the middle class and all the mm and pop businesses.
The middle class make adjustments as bigger and bigger chunks of their wealth being taking form them. But they don;t change their attitude, knowledge base, life style, or strategy. They say money isn;t important. Well, all I can say is any American household who does not have a budget to operate from won't operate. How can a person raise children without the responsibility of healthy food, healthy clothing, safe shelter, clean reliable heat, real education, healthy medical needs, etc etc. without having one;s life funded? If not funded in some manner, one does not have a good life. Money should not be a fundamental pillar of your life but this society manipulated money into that number one position. so we can all be easily controlled even to the point of telling us what medicine we can have or not have. Either humans understand money and privacy, and make wise choices or they can chose not to understand and contribute to the enslavement and poverty of all. That is probably what most reader's are doing but will rationalise their head in the sand position.
But somehow people, making it easy for the rulers to control you, focus on other things besides money and privacy, some of which are very important, but in the triage of living are not as foundational as the money and privacy. Without having a solid foundation which supports the average person;s life and that of their family, not having control over your own real money and privacy, will forever make you and your family, kids to grandparents, prey to the control of the Powers-That -Be.. And how many people are living pay check to pay check? 77 percent is probably a close enough number. If we had constitutional money, few Americans would be living pay check to pay check. Instead the majority of Americans could be building family wealth to pass down the generations, instead of collecting more and more debt, and dying penniless, thereby not giving your descendants a leg up in life because you failed to handle money correctly personally and within society. The rich never start over with each generation, why should the working class do so, and the working class included middle income Amercans.
It does;t matter how much money you make, if you don;t understand money and manipulate it wisely, you and your family will be big prey for the monetary predators of the world.
So the people of Greece voted no. But the Greek government said Yes. And that is how it goes, even in America. But if the Greek People had an interest in not being prey to the top half percent, then they would have never agreed to give up their financial sovereignty. But they did and now where are they? We are talking about real humans starving because of a corrupt monetary system that the people supported until it was too late. Which will be the same for America.
So the Greeks bought into the corrupt monetary system. They didm;t learn about money. They didm;tthink for themselves. So now, most unfortunately for the people, the are paying dearly. Think of all the families in Greece, especially families and pensioners. Yet somehow Americans and other people still just keep on sticking their heads in the sand thinking someone will protect them and solve the fiat money issue. Why do people trust the same people to fix a problem tha they created. Remember that saying about the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over yet expecting change. Yup that is most people and that is why they don't; care. They don't want to responsibility of doing the right thing. They just want the convenience regardless of the price they pay for that convenience. They think that way because its easier than learning about the federal reserve, fiat money or how and when America transformed from a sound, constitutional monetary system, where a savings account was not lost to inflation, to a debt, based monetary system where the more money is saved, the more wealth is transferred to the upper 1/2 percent. When have wages ever kept up with inflation for most people? No Americans just accept working until they drop, even though they never thought that is how they would spend their golden years. People don;t care until its too late and the always think they have time. And so one day surprise…time runs out and they are in trouble… real trouble.. life threatening trouble.
A young women I know is having a baby. Their monthly mortgage is 2,500 a month. They are living pay check to pay check. She, or he can't cut down their hours to care for the baby or they will not be able to pay their bills. Why are Americans forced to live their lives without financial safety net like when we had the choice if both parents worked or not? Why is it that two or more adults need an income to afford basic housing? It is because people didm;t want to understand the monetary system, and chose connivence over what was financially stable in terms of only accepting sound based money and not debt based money. Sound based money only one parent has to work to support a family of 8. Today with a debt based monitor system, its hard for jet two people without children to support a household. A solid sound based constitutional monetary system give people financial stability and choices. A debt based monetary system fools you into thinking you have choices and it put an invisible noose around your neck. Americans us ego have privacy and choices and now they don;t. And its only because we switched our monetary system and gave all the financial power to the Powers- That- Be. And when that happened. Americans went to sleep. See you are sleeping now if you don't understand money and how it is manipulated out of your control.
But then again people don;t care enough to say no to the predators and to insist on supporting instead a well functioning, balanced society, based on real money and privacy.
Americans don;t understand the second Amendment, and why its important. Americans don;t get the 4th Amendment or why the founders insisted on it. Americans of today don;t value privacy although the founders of America understood why privacy is so important in a free society. But Americans allowed those in control to create huge surveillance networks and to destroy our foundational privacy. What do you have to do to keep us safe, with healthy personal choices, and our monetary system real so we all can build family wealth instead of support a debt base society in which only the the top 1/2 percent get rich and control the rest of us. Some people live to say they aren't controlled. Well they have a lot of sand in their eyes so they aren't seeing clearly anyway and somehow the sand must be affecting their observations skills and logic as well.
If people could just do two things: demand their privacy and demand our constitutional monetary system….. but people just don;t care, at least they do not care enough, or the world would not be like it is today. And the people of Greece would dnot be living in poverty.. soon to dread through Europe and accoss the Atlantic to America.
So, reader, how much do you care about foundational privacy and the monetary system so you can demand it in your life thereby giving you and your family the fundamental security you need so you can pay more attention to other things that are important to the earth and you personally?
But look around the world. This is what the common human did to the world. They allowed all their power to be taken form them. They allowed themselves to be controlled for the currency of convenience? Yup people just don;t care enough or the world would not be the way it is.
So how much longer do you think you can keep your household going in these conditions? How old are you? A 40 year old might be able to work 24/7 if necessary , can a 59 year-old do so if necessary? What about a 70 year-old or and 80 year old?
How large is your family, and repsonsibilities? How large and strong is your financial safety net? Maybe like most Americans, you don;t have one? You would never get sick and be unable to work, right? You would never lose your job or be downsized, right? Your life circumstances would never change right….a divorce, an unemployed, or fragile parent or perhaps an adult child moving in with you?
Even though your wages don;t keep up with inflation that won;t hurt you in the food market, or at the gas pump, heating your home, or getting medicine and the help you need. right?
With sound money, with constitutional money your wealth stays in your possession . It makes it very difficult for them to steal your hard earn dollars if the monetary system is NOT based on debt like it is now. But how many people even understand the difference.? They don;t care! They make unwise choices and then sooner or latter get themselves trapped in societies' unethical weldings and dealings made to impovish them and take all their choices away.
Will you be able to buy healthy food, or only the posionoss, conventional food found in the average supermarket? Or maybe you will only be able to afford hand outs? I volunteered in a food bank once, not the most healthiest food to keep your body going, especially as you get older. Do you think food banks carry a lot of organic food? What will you be eating as the world finances get worse and worse. So like my friend she is so sure she will be dead before any of that fall across her life style, which she thinks is upper middle class.
Do people care? Not unless it's in their face and even at that they will try to shirk the responsibility on to someone else.
Maybe when I was young and idealistic I had hope that people would do the right thing more often than not, but they don;t. They just don;t care enough, if at all. Even the readers of this thread. Do you think you care enough? And how have you shown that you care enough? What choices did you make to avoid feeding the machine as much as possible? No, you may have thought about it. And you may even care. But few people actually care enough, they are in one way of another controlled by the Powers that be and they know if they rock the boat then they will be on the street and starve earlier so like my friend you do nothing or next to nothing. Again the proof is in the pudding. If people cared enough, the world, especially America would not be in the present position it is in. Are you happy with how your government is controlling your life? Are you happy how the few control you?
I remember the movie," Braveheart". At the beginning, the character didm;t want to fight. He just want to live his life and take care of his family. I think most people can relate to that. But than when they slit his wife's throat ……….. well most of you probably seen or at least heard of the movie and knows what happened, but he didm;t get to live his life the way he wanted. Is that is what is going t happen to many people in America eventually and probably sooner rather than latter?
And that is how it is with people. I just wish people would act before their wives throats were slit or any of the other ways they will treat those who are in the Power-That -be way, most of humanity. But if people cared, movies like Braveheart wouldnt mean much. But people don;t care; and "Braveheart", well, they mostly think it was just an entertaining movie with no relevance to today.
People may care….. but they don;t care enough… and if they did care enough, we all wouldn't be having this economic meltdown that the majority of people are clueless about.
We are having this economic meltdown because as the old saying goes, good people did nothing to stop it for decades. What is happening has been a run-a-way train for a few decades now. Those of us who have been watching it speed down the hill can only see the cliff at the end of the tracks that the train will fly over since their is no break and no one seems interested in fixing the break or trying to derail the train to a safer ending than the present cliff it is rapidly approaching.
We soon will be all cashless. And when that comes to be, no one will have any freedom or privacy and will be totally controlled by the powers that be. It will be the end of hope.
Do you think that is a good thing? Do you like being told how to spend your money, your time or how to think? That is what people not caring will soon be experiencing. This year, maybe, next year, maybe... but definitely before my friend dies, the train will go over the cliff. She thinks she has lots of money and refuses to see how see can lose it overnight and be sent off to tent city.
But alas all the above has just been my observations and my humble opinion. No not enough people care enough to be a good stewart to the earth or to society.
Earthlink
17th July 2015, 22:53
hmmm ... my friend said the other day that evil wins because good is too stupid, and I said I think evil wins because good is non violent.
You can take that to the bank. And speaking of banks, they have the ability to create deposits anyway, it doesn't matter. The only reason they play these games, with the stock market and crashing it to buy up everything, is that if they just printed the money to outright buy everything out from under us, we would notice that. So, they play games with stuff instead, to confuse the issue.
If people had the ability to have control of the printing of money themselves, everything would be fair, as is being demonstrated in those places in the world where they do create their own money.
The banksters either need to learn to play fair, or, more and more towns and regions are springing up where they do just this with their own local currencies.
And someone should talk them out of that stupid new world order idea they have too, an archaic reminder of our 17th century primitive mode, is all it is. Whomever wrote it originally died long ago now.
Time to move on.
I mean seriously, imagine achieving this: everyone is either a prison guard, or a prisoner: WHOO HOOO VICTORY!!! WHAT A BEAUTIFUL WORLD IT IS TODAY!!!!
Not.
everyone is going to die, there is no escaping this, and it doesn't matter which of those two occupations you have, prisoner or prison guard, both job descriptions are lame.
thunder24
17th July 2015, 23:11
i think its a matter of perspective. and i know there is no diffference.... (thunder bolts) lol
blake
17th July 2015, 23:37
Well, Earthlink, local currencies have been around for a while America, and yet they don;t seem to catch on throughout the country. MAYBE one day they will. The more decentralised power is the more control the people have over their own lives.
I think your friend is right, in a way, I do think evil is more powerful. Its kind of like gun control. The only people who obey such laws are law abiding people, the criminal won;t obey such laws, so the criminals get their guns and the law obeying people don't' get guns, in the game of life, who is smarter. The more people with outguns the easier it is for the criminal with the good and so evil wins.
I wish I could say good always wins. I have never witness that. Even many of the monks from Tibet were martial artists. They fought against the Chinese army.
Why is learning martial arts so important for an order of Monks? Maybe its important for everyone?
A good smart person would be a strong person, skilled at protecting him/herself and their family while not trespassing on others, but more than capable of defending themselves if necessary. A stupid good person, unlike the Tibetan monks would never learn the martial arts or learn to shoot a gun, they would want to believe that the power of good, wherever it comes from, would win out. The stupid good person is lie that story of the person caught in a flood and is on the roof and three people go past him offering help, a helicopter, and a couple of boats, so the story goes he tells these good humans offering help to save his lfe that he doesn't need their help because "God" was going to save him. So he drowns and he goes up to "God" and asks " why didn't you save me?" And "God" answers that he had sent help three times and three times he refused the help offered. There are various and longer versions but you get the point. He may have been a good person, and had great faith in his God to help him. Yet he was too stupid to acknowledge and accept opportune moments that could save his life. Why? Why are good people stupid? But you see most people I associate with are way "over educated"….. no one would ever call them stupid and yet in the age of life these people like the man wanting God to save him, refuses to see the reality of the situation and thinks like this man did that some power goodness will save the day.
Yet good parents teach their children to be self sufficient and be capable as they can be. Everyone is responsible for themselves. Yet many people just like to be taken care of. Everyone likes to be taken care of once in a while, but if you love to be taken care, then you may be a good person but you are "stupid" because as long as someone else is caring for you, they decide for you. Just like the people in Greece. The people spoke, but they gave away their power to powers outisde their country and now they are being dictated to. The people say no. The government says yes…. Wake up Europe and America.
But people love to be taken care of and the Powers-that -be know that and use that to entrap people all the time. The good stupid people lose, the good smart people refuse the offer and keep their options and choices open for whatever their personal choices Are. Good smart people would never accept someone dictation got them about their personal business. Smart good people stay in control of their money and information.
I think evil is smarter. Good can be smart but being smart takes work, and so many times good. without lots of education, usually loses.
East Sun
18th July 2015, 01:13
Thank you Blake.........Once we let a cashless society grip us we are done.............DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
we will have no control whatsoever over our lives.....Can't people see that?????????????????????
Object!!!!!!!!!!!Boycott!!!!!!!!!Do not comply!!!!!
DO NOT COMPLY>>>>>period.................ever.............
East Sun
18th July 2015, 01:17
Archons..... hybrid people.......... enemies of humans are and have been dumbing humans down forever......
Wake up humans!!!!!!!!!!WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Selkie
18th July 2015, 02:09
...I think evil wins because good is non violent...
Yes, and good people have scruples, while the evil have none. That doesn't help, either.
East Sun
22nd July 2015, 02:16
...I think evil wins because good is non violent...
Yes, and good people have scruples, while the evil have none. That doesn't help, either.
Well, it seems to me that it's not a matter of just good and evil. Good has to fight sometimes to defeat evil, so we have to be 'bad' in order to become good as a people. When we have won, as we will, eventually we can start that long awaited golden age. And even then it may only last for a 'thousand years', whatever that means.
So, evil may be an everlasting phenomenon. But we individually wont have to worry about it.
Next time around in the cycle of reincarnation we may be the evil ones, since we do not remember from one incarnation to the next.
And so it goes.
ES
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