UFO channels that are known to hoax

[mojo]

The recent message posted about UFO summoners was important enough to get an pov across and now debating creating another new message about confirmed hoax channels. Surprisingly there are quite a few of them.
It didn't really bother me about personally being attacked by some summoners about their use of the word "summon," and most of them completely missed the context of the message, because I do believe in CE-5 protocols and having the right attitude for contact. I expect the same treatment from the hoax channels that will be high-lighted in an upcoming video.

So now wishing to get some feedback if possible. Is it wise to provide information so that people will be informed about these hoax channels? Will it bring too much negative fallout back to my own research? Really hoped someone else would do the work and create the video with feedback from others willing to help. But that does not seem to be the case and truly believe researchers in the UFO community should do a better job of self-policing the material that goes out to the general public. Otherwise how will we ever get to the truth?

To start the list I have a couple of top contender's and if your interested please post channel names that are dubious with you. Thank you...Perhaps I can learn the direction by the feedback provided here. cheers

1. Thirdphaseofmoon
2. Secureteam 10
3. looknowtv

[lucidity]

Hello Siblings,

AboveTopSecret.com is a source of misinformation and disinformation.

They banned John Lear under under a dubious pretext, when John Lear
complained about this.. they said, okay you can come back but you can't
tell anyone you were unjustly banned. Naturally, he declined.

Posts mysteriously vanish.
Posters are harassed.

They interviewed George Knapp (the journalist that broke the Bob Lazar case)
and asked his views about whether 9/11 was an inside job, or not... on the anniversary of 9/11.
George Knapp is famous for not believing that 9/11 was an inside job.
Interviewing him, and then faking surprise at his answer, was painfully obvious scam.
I stopped visiting abovetopsecret.com at that point.

John Lear believes this site is a CIA front.
There is a camelot interview with John Lear on this topic.

be happy :-)

lucidity

[Sunny-side-up]

It is very wise to Flag up Hoax Channels/Hoaxer, very important!

We need to be seen as discriminators and not just believers in anything and or everything! we need to be seen as thinkers, awake.

That is good for believers/truth-seekers cause we need to keep things as pure and real as possible.
That is good for not yet believers, they need to know there is a real side and a hoax side to what is going on around them!

It will also help take away the hoaxers view ratings!

Good call Mojo and keep up the great work/posting of the real stuff!

[Selkie]

It is very wise to Flag up Hoax Channels/Hoaxer, very important!

We need to be seen as discriminators and not just believers in anything and or everything! we need to be seen as thinkers, awake.

That is good for believers/truth-seekers cause we need to keep things as pure and real as possible.
That is good for not yet believers, they need to know there is a real side and a hoax side to what is going on around them!

It will also help take away the hoaxers view ratings!

Good call Mojo and keep up the great work/posting of the real stuff!

I totally second this, and the OP, too.

[robinr1]

doesn't that prove 100 percent George knapp is working for them? there is also one poster at Avalon who it seems also parrots the official story....working for them too I would think. over at ronpaulforums there is 100 percent paid disinfo posters.....sorry for the derail.

[Bill Ryan]

1. Thirdphaseofmoon
2. Secureteam 10
3. looknowtv

I don't know much about (1) or (3), but Secureteam10 is most definitely to be avoided as a source of good information. They have faked some interviews, and have invented 'reports' to boost ratings.




AboveTopSecret.com is a source of misinformation and disinformation.
[...]
John Lear believes this site is a CIA front.
There is a Camelot interview with John Lear on this topic.



Yes, it is. The ATS owners have a primarily skeptical/debunking agenda, and I'm as sure as I can be they they have strong CIA connections.

Co-founder/co-owner Mark Allin's wife, Melissa Allin (username ValHall) works (or worked) for Halliburton.

John Lear discussed his ATS experience in this Camelot video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj-HzHi3dF0
Transcript here:
http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/john_lear_2008_transcript_1_en.html

[lucidity]

To start the list I have a couple of top contender's and if your interested please post channel names that are dubious with you. Thank you...Perhaps I can learn the direction by the feedback provided here. cheers

1. Thirdphaseofmoon


My strong impression is that Thirdphaseofmoon have been hounded by fake critics
for publicising good (and mediocre) evidence. The weapon used against them has been ridicule.

I remember that it was thirdphaseofmoon that publicised the crashing of an UFO in an
Indian reservation (in Canada) several months ago. It seems to me that these people
are sincere in their interest in UFO related matter.

I believe the thirdphaseofmoon youtube channel is worth subscribing to.

be happy :-)

lucidity

[Menhit]

I believe the thirdphaseofmoon youtube channel is worth subscribing to

Really


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53BmNF88D5A

The above video was uploaded Dec 10 2010

And just so you know Blake and Brent Cousins of the Cousins Brothers Productions based out of the Big Island of Hawaii won the Prestigious Golden Droid Award from Star Wars Creator George Lucas! Now Chronicles of Young Skywalker episode II staring 4 year old Cameron Cousins just made the shortlist for YouTube Play. Selected from more than 23,000 submissions from 91 countries, the 125 shortlisted videos can now be seen on the YouTube Play channel. Cameron Cousins as Young Luke Skywalker Devin Leblond as Han Solo YouTube Play is a collaboration between YouTube and the Guggenheim Museum, presented by HP and Intel. YouTube Play wants to recognize and showcase the most remarkable online videos from around the world.

He's since gone on to use his talent to create so many fakes video's on the UFO Phenomena like this one below.He really is doing an injustice to all who investigate and work in this field.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlYYOGnnuwA

thirdphase is for profit, not disclosure and can never be trusted. Unfortuantely people are actually now sending real UFO video to his channel and they getting credit for showing it.Shame on them

[mojo]

Thank you Menhit...

here's more evidence..
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should I go on?

[lucidity]

I believe the thirdphaseofmoon youtube channel is worth subscribing to

Really


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53BmNF88D5A

The above video was uploaded Dec 10 2010

And just so you know Blake and Brent Cousins of the Cousins Brothers Productions based out of the Big Island of Hawaii won the Prestigious Golden Droid Award from Star Wars Creator George Lucas! Now Chronicles of Young Skywalker episode II staring 4 year old Cameron Cousins just made the shortlist for YouTube Play. Selected from more than 23,000 submissions from 91 countries, the 125 shortlisted videos can now be seen on the YouTube Play channel. Cameron Cousins as Young Luke Skywalker Devin Leblond as Han Solo YouTube Play is a collaboration between YouTube and the Guggenheim Museum, presented by HP and Intel. YouTube Play wants to recognize and showcase the most remarkable online videos from around the world.

He's since gone on to use his talent to create so many fakes video's on the UFO Phenomena like this one below.He really is doing an injustice to all who investigate and work in this field.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlYYOGnnuwA

thirdphase is for profit, not disclosure and can never be trusted. Unfortuantely people are actually now sending real UFO video to his channel and they getting credit for showing it.Shame on them

Hi Menhit,

Where is your evidence that Thirdphaseofmoon work for profit ?
How do they get money for doing this ?

lucidity :-)

[lucidity]

Thank you Menhit...

here's more evidence..
2KtIqUpRpDQ

ffCMYRJFjD0

mpcfMtcu_RA

WJtEJvmDfEs

should I go on?

Hi Mojo,

yes... you should go on.
Can you find anything that you consider 'dubious' that's been published in the last 12 months ?

be happy :-)

lucidity

[mojo]

I can't put links from tablet but yes. I find the footage that Ed posts very dubious. He edits the footage with HDR (a type of photo effect) and hopefully someone can link it. I recall it shows a ufo up close in dark blue. But there's more to choose from.

edit: fake critics and fake hoaxed videos it seems a perfect fit...;)

[WhiteLove]

because I do believe in CE-5 protocols and having the right attitude for contact.

When I had my UFO experience I felt emotionally attached/connected to the UFO, it felt like they could pick up, understand and connect to the emotional state I was in, for some reason they were interested in/curious about that. I totally get why the CE-5 protocols are being used. Searching for a state of peace, love and excitement is I think something that will make it more likely for anyone to have a real UFO experience. It might be that some of the higher intelligences that operate these UFOs follow a non-interference guideline to not impact on our consciousness beyond what we are currently aware of and comfortable with, but that when we are in a state of peace and love and send out a contact request in such a state, it is maybe sometimes decided that a response must be made to connect in and share that truth in such a way that it expands the consciousness in a positive way - the contact has become an expression of love. To me at least they seemed friendly, how my intuition interpreted their contact towards me was something like - "hey, yes we exist and are out here among the stars, yes we know what you feel, yes unconditional love is the truth".

[norski]

I now question the validity of godlikeproductions and Veterans Today.

Godlikeproductions seems riddled with trolls and just plain nasty exchanges between its participants.

With regard to Veterans today, although I don't consider myself religious in any way, I think a distinction needs to be made between negative and hostile factions of a religious group and peaceful members of the same. Veterans today seems very anti-semitic and anti-Christian to me while being very pro-Islam. I've know many good Muslims through my travels; however, elevating them above all Jews and Christians is a recipe for conflict. We don't need any more of that. I still check out Veterans Today periodically because I think they may be releasing some information to which to pay attention. However, I don't hold it at the level of esteem I once did. I just remember that some of the information may be disinformation, as Gordon Duff himself declared. I frequently wonder now who is really in control of that site.

I take AM Coast to Coast with a total grain of salt. It seems to me that George Noory enjoys his somewhat occult status a bit too much.

[Selkie]

because I do believe in CE-5 protocols and having the right attitude for contact.

When I had my UFO experience I felt emotionally attached/connected to the UFO, it felt like they could pick up, understand and connect to the emotional state I was in, for some reason they were interested in/curious about that. I totally get why the CE-5 protocols are being used. Searching for a state of peace, love and excitement is I think something that will make it more likely for anyone to have a real UFO experience. It might be that some of the higher intelligences that operate these UFOs follow a non-interference guideline to not impact on our consciousness beyond what we are currently aware of and comfortable with, but that when we are in a state of peace and love and send out a contact request in such a state, it is maybe sometimes decided that a response must be made to connect in and share that truth in such a way that it expands the consciousness in a positive way - the contact has become an expression of love. To me at least they seemed friendly, how my intuition interpreted their contact towards me was something like - "hey, yes we exist and are out here among the stars, yes we know what you feel, yes unconditional love is the truth".

What a lovely experience. Thank you :)

[Hazelfern]

Hello Siblings,

AboveTopSecret.com is a source of misinformation and disinformation.

They banned John Lear under under a dubious pretext, when John Lear
complained about this.. they said, okay you can come back but you can't
tell anyone you were unjustly banned. Naturally, he declined.

Posts mysteriously vanish.
Posters are harassed.

They interviewed George Knapp (the journalist that broke the Bob Lazar case)
and asked his views about whether 9/11 was an inside job, or not... on the anniversary of 9/11.
George Knapp is famous for not believing that 9/11 was an inside job.
Interviewing him, and then faking surprise at his answer, was painfully obvious scam.
I stopped visiting abovetopsecret.com at that point.

John Lear believes this site is a CIA front.
There is a camelot interview with John Lear on this topic.

be happy :-)

lucidity

George Knapp believes 9/11 WAS NOT an inside job? I find that very curious.

[mojo]

Thirdphase has changed over time and that's a good thing and should be acknowledged. The point is that they certainly did alot of hoaxes to gain notoriety and build their channel for revenue purposes. They started out as a bottle collecting channel and they soon realized there was more money and interest in UFOs. In the Sheila Aliens interview he never admits his guilt in fabricating hoaxes. Only that there were a few fake ufo videos that slipped by. That was very weak, imo. In another video I posted above Blake gets caught in a total lie saying he is live on location in the Phillipines. He was totally busted there, and shows he will make up information for hype, not good. Today his ego is still writing checks his body can't cash. ie. The #1 UFO channel, the best UFO videos, sensational titles to his videos, His market plan is still very active.

Now added to the mix are some good interviews and authentic ufo clips submitted by regular people trying to get the word out. Blake is jumping on this new business plan ie "We only want to get the video out to the world" No discernment on his part for the obvious fakes he still posts for viewership and revenue. What is most important in assessing Thirdphase is accountability to the public. They are sadly lacking there. You asked for what they have done for hoaxing in the last 6 months but wonder if history matters in judging if a source is reliable or not. In closing Ill post two videos below showing how they continue to push fakes.

Growing up on a seaport town there were lots of fishing boats the were anchored to bouys. In the first video we can hear how Blake leads Robert Bingham on to think these are some kind of paranormal rods. Its ludicrous...
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In this video this person Ed is highly promoted by Blake as having the best UFO footage and he uses Eds material on a few uploads. Ed has some skill in photoshop and all his uploads are editited in HDR for a certain otherworldly affect.

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[jake gittes]

I now question the validity of godlikeproductions and Veterans Today.

Godlikeproductions seems riddled with trolls and just plain nasty exchanges between its participants.

With regard to Veterans today, although I don't consider myself religious in any way, I think a distinction needs to be made between negative and hostile factions of a religious group and peaceful members of the same. Veterans today seems very anti-semitic and anti-Christian to me while being very pro-Islam. I've know many good Muslims through my travels; however, elevating them above all Jews and Christians is a recipe for conflict. We don't need any more of that. I still check out Veterans Today periodically because I think they may be releasing some information to which to pay attention. However, I don't hold it at the level of esteem I once did. I just remember that some of the information may be disinformation, as Gordon Duff himself declared. I frequently wonder now who is really in control of that site.

I take AM Coast to Coast with a total grain of salt. It seems to me that George Noory enjoys his somewhat occult status a bit too much.

GLP definitely is, like ATS. Certain subjects there are taboo and lead to deletions and bans. It is also very anti-"muzzie" and I witnessed regulars there attempting to stir up riots. After frequenting VT for a couple years, I reached the conclusion it can no longer be truster, either. There was a big blow-up over Jade Helm at VT a couple months ago when Duff, after ignoring the discussion of it for multiple weeks, suddenly ridiculed anyone concerned about it, using terms like tinfoil hat, etc, then banned a number of its most popular contributors. I've even wondered if the blow-up was contrived, but whatever the case, it was very suspicious. I'm looking at all sites with a more jaundiced eye at this point, and giving those I doubt fewer or no clicks. VT always claimed (except when being lavished with praise) it didn't need or even want its readers anyway, so no loss for them.

[Fiberglut]

Bill,
Not related to UFO, but what are your thoughts on Abel Danger?

[lucidity]

George Knapp believes 9/11 WAS NOT an inside job? I find that very curious.

yes...curiouser and curiouser ...
very odd.....at least, that what he _says_ he believes.

I wonder if his explicit views prevent him being black-balled by various media giants.

be happy :-)

lucidity

[Sunny-side-up]

Here you go Mojo, the list you wanted to add in your post:

ufotheaters UFO Black List.
http://ufotheater.com/ufo-channel-reviews/ufo-black-list/


The sheer volume of noise and confusion in the field of UFOlogy is staggering. There are those attempting to suppress and obfuscate the truth, and even more simply attempting to profit from the tremendous interest by manufacturing hoaxes in order to make a profit.
How do we reduce the noise? One thing we can do is identify those creating it, and refrain from encouraging them. Toward that purpose, this is the Youtube UFO Black List. If we choose to stop visiting their pages, even to make negative comments, we may be able to reduce the resources they have. We encourage your submissions and debate:

[mojo]

Thank you...;)

[mojo]

fyi for newer members

[SailorMoon]

That is great to know. I had a feeling about both of them, but I knew some of them were actual videos. Of course, now learning that every UFO we have seen originates from our planet, truly changes everything! Are you, or is someone interested in the hollow moon theory? I am truly starting to feel that David Icke, and many others, have been trying to reveal this very large secret for some time now. I took some photos of a moon halo that happened here in Ohio in 2015. I never looked at them closely, but something told me to go back and alter the lighting and shading in the image. Unknowingly, I took a picture of something that could be of interest to some. Do you know where I can have someone look at these photos? I have them in a collage enhanced, and the originals with timestamps and dates. Thank you in advance friend :)

[Sueanne47]

Hi there Sailormoon! :sun: :welcome:

about the moon ~ I'm keeping an open mind on it at the moment, not that I disbeleive David Icke, Michael Tellinger says the earth rings like a bell, and David Icke says the moon does! someone else said it was towed in LOL :ballchain: I'm also hearing from Bob Dean - a whistleblower, that the moon, and mars are occupied by extraterrestrials underground.

My head hurts with crap overload :wacko2: we cant tell fact from fiction 1/2 the time! (well I cant)

Sue

[mojo]

Hi SailorMoon,
Its a bit off topic, but here's my chance to say welcome!! Funny you mentioned the hollow moon theory. Was just watching a video mentioning how the moon rang like a bell for hours after one of the Apollo missions crashed the lunar module. They had set a sensor on the moon before hand and crashed it near the monitoring device. So yes it is very intriguing plus all the lunar anomalies showing strange lights and glowing gas clouds. On the point of all ufo's originating here I would say some but not all...cheers

[Sueanne47]

Hi Mojo,
So was the moon landing real? I heard from a member of the public it was faked lol

[Bill Ryan]

Hi Mojo,
So was the moon landing real? I heard from a member of the public it was faked lol

Fascinating topic (much discussed here, of course).

My strong, personal, evidence-based opinion: there was an entire classified moon program that was never revealed, and we first reached the moon quite a bit earlier than 1969.

But some of the Apollo missions were real as well (maybe not all), while none, or almost none, of the photos and videos of the Apollo landings were real: they were simulated by Stanley Kubrick using front-screen projection, and he left many subtle clues about what he had done. For the research (a lot of it!), look up Jay Weidner's outstanding work. It's a slam-dunk case.

[Sueanne47]

So if it was a faked moon landing, the astronauts went up in space in the rocket....and just floated around the world in space? what was the point in that? I remember the lunar module came down in the sea and the astronauts got onto the aircraft carrier, that must have been real!

[Bill Ryan]

So if it was a faked moon landing, the astronauts went up in space in the rocket....and just floated around the world in space? what was the point in that? I remember the lunar module came down in the sea and the astronauts got onto the aircraft carrier, that must have been real!

No, they really went, and landed (in my opinion). But what really happened was not broadcast. They showed a prepared, pre-filmed simulation, instead.

[Sueanne47]

So there was too much alien activity on the moon to be shown to the public...ah now I get it! :rolleyes:

[KiwiElf]

Even the earlier unmanned probes which orbited the Moon long before Apollo, photographed "anomalies" - buildings, structures, etc - things that shouldn't be there.

This is a good read (entire PDF downloadable from here):

"Somebody Else Is On The Moon" by George H Leonard

http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/George_Leonard__SOMEBODY%20ELSE%20IS%20ON%20THE%20MOON%20OP.pdf

Also, Richard C Hoagland's research from the 90's is interesting.

One of the latest ANCIENT ALIENS episodes, 11.11 "Space Station Moon" is well worth a look (one of the best I've seen lately IMO). It can be streamed from here:

http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens


It was mankind's finest hour, the greatest technological achievement of the 20th Century--the Apollo 11 mission to the Moon. But the Apollo program was short-lived, and after Apollo 17 in 1972, we never went back. Could it be that we encountered something--or someone--on the Moon? Did the Apollo astronauts witness more than NASA wants us to know? The Moon is the most visible celestial body in the night sky and is essential to life on Earth. But what if the Moon is not the natural object we believe it to be? Unidentified lunar objects in NASA photography may point to extraterrestrial structures on the moon, and possibly evidence of what lies beneath the surface. Some Ancient Astronaut theorists have even suggested that the Moon is actually an artificial object, placed in its current position by otherworldly beings thousands of years ago.

Not to mention the MANY threads on Avalon with accompanying videos :)

:focus:

[Helvetic]

Excerpt Drawing Bill Tompkins

Source: exopolitics.org (http://exopolitics.org/apollo-missions-ended-because-extraterrestrials-prevented-us-navy-bases-on-moon/), Book: Bill Tomkins - Selected by Extraterrestrials (https://www.amazon.com/Selected-Extraterrestrials-secret-think-tanks-secretaries/dp/1515217469/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1454033779&sr=1-1&keywords=william+tompkins)

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[huyi82]

so Secureteam 10 is a hoax channel? i didn't know that and i'm subscribed to him too, can anyone recommend a decent ufo channel instead?

[Bill Ryan]

so Secureteam 10 is a hoax channel?

Yep. (Unfortunately.) Maybe not 100% everything is a hoax, but quite a lot certainly is. It's definitely unreliable for research purposes. That makes it essentially valueless. More disinformation, whatever the motive.

It's another case of the abuse of the monetization of YouTube. These channels earn money from their uploads, and they're basically businesses that take financial advantage of their subscribers (because of advertising revenue over time, even if it's not from yourself personally).