When will humans grow up?

[apokalypse]

looking at conditions of our living and lifestyle just make me sick...when we going to growing up became an adult?

[Bubu]

looking at conditions of our living and lifestyle just make me sick...when we going to growing up became an adult?

here in the Philippines when you reach 18 you considered adult:bearhug:

[grannyfranny100]

It use to be that but now they don't even marry until thirty-maybe because so many come from broken homes (divorce) and it makes them very cautious.

[Tiyaira]

It is a good question. Most humans today may have adult bodies, but they still have infantile minds. The answer has to do with growth. I have had to find my way out of immaturity and they will have to do the same. We can help by being knowledgeable and standing our ground. Observations along the way:


Morality.

Most humans do not have a solid understanding of the concepts of right-wrong, true-false, correct-incorrect, or moral-immoral.
They do not understand the consequences of their actions nor follow through to the consequences of the consequences.
They do not know how nor why to check their conscience before every action.
If everyone was truly moral, there would be no police, military, corporations, nor government because such systems are inherently immoral.


Ownership.

It seems people do not critically understand ownership, property, and theft.
Thus, they are stolen from constantly, and they steal from each other unknowingly. Time & labour are one's property and can be stolen.
They do not understand that making themselves the property of a thought - any thought - is the definition of mind control.


Abuse and Abandonment.

Many parents were abused and they abused their kids. Then their kids abused their kids. And so on. The cycle of abuse causes and might stem from abandonment issues. It makes sense.
Many people do not know how to raise their kids so as not to cause abandonment issues.
Attention- and approval- seeking behaviours are abnormal. They lead to attachment in another, co-dependence, and sometimes violence.


Identity.

Observe: When humans are born, they are a blank slate.
Observe: Human nature is programmable. How people are taught to be as kids will carry though their whole life, unless they can re-program themselves. If all they are given is junk, all they will put out in life is junk whilst unaware.
It is the parent's responsibility to raise a child that is moral, knowledgeable, and healthy. This takes knowledge & skill that is lacking. They cannot raise what they themselves do not know.
Then, when the child's being takes up residence in the body and starts asking intelligent questions, the parents must reinforce that the child is in fact who they say they are. If they dismiss it as nonsense, they cause significant damage to their child. The same holds true if they place a false identity upon them (ie. princess). This is made worse with bad programming and abuse.

If the child asks "who am I?" or "why am I here?"
The parent answers "we had to make and train your body so you could be here. We named the body ___. When did you find yourself in it?". This will help overcome the blank slate and preserve their identity.





I would not consider a human grown up, really, until at least all of the above are known, met, and lived. I found the works of Mark Passio and H.W. Percival, and probably some others, really helpful in this regard.

[ghostrider]

humans don't want to take responsibility for their lives/thoughts/actions/feelings ... most are still stuck in the mindset of needing a higher power to guide their lives , tell them when , where, and how they should do things ...the ETs are closely involved in the process of helping us grow up and be real human beings , they say it will take 800 more years ...
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[Akasha]

It is a good question. Most humans today may have adult bodies, but they still have infantile minds. The answer has to do with growth. I have had to find my way out of immaturity and they will have to do the same. We can help by being knowledgeable and standing our ground. Observations along the way:


Morality.

Most humans do not have a solid understanding of the concepts of right-wrong, true-false, correct-incorrect, or moral-immoral.
They do not understand the consequences of their actions nor follow through to the consequences of the consequences.
They do not know how nor why to check their conscience before every action.
If everyone was truly moral, there would be no police, military, corporations, nor government because such systems are inherently immoral.


Ownership.

It seems people do not critically understand ownership, property, and theft.
Thus, they are stolen from constantly, and they steal from each other unknowingly. Time & labour are one's property and can be stolen.
They do not understand that making themselves the property of a thought - any thought - is the definition of mind control.


Abuse and Abandonment.

Many parents were abused and they abused their kids. Then their kids abused their kids. And so on. The cycle of abuse causes and might stem from abandonment issues. It makes sense.
Many people do not know how to raise their kids so as not to cause abandonment issues.
Attention- and approval- seeking behaviours are abnormal. They lead to attachment in another, co-dependence, and sometimes violence.


Identity.

Observe: When humans are born, they are a blank slate.
Observe: Human nature is programmable. How people are taught to be as kids will carry though their whole life, unless they can re-program themselves. If all they are given is junk, all they will put out in life is junk whilst unaware.
It is the parent's responsibility to raise a child that is moral, knowledgeable, and healthy. This takes knowledge & skill that is lacking. They cannot raise what they themselves do not know.
Then, when the child's being takes up residence in the body and starts asking intelligent questions, the parents must reinforce that the child is in fact who they say they are. If they dismiss it as nonsense, they cause significant damage to their child. The same holds true if they place a false identity upon them (ie. princess). This is made worse with bad programming and abuse.

If the child asks "who am I?" or "why am I here?"
The parent answers "we had to make and train your body so you could be here. We named the body ___. When did you find yourself in it?". This will help overcome the blank slate and preserve their identity.





I would not consider a human grown up, really, until at least all of the above are known, met, and lived. I found the works of Mark Passio and H.W. Percival, and probably some others, really helpful in this regard.

Whilst I agree with much of what you say, I'm not so sure about humans being born as a blank slate. I think they/we arrive in a state of pure love, and that state is gradually eroded through morally diminished parental/societal conditioning - in particular diet, specifically through being forced/tricked into eating meat.

For example, your first observation about morality is, imo, a result of the confusion put in the minds of children regarding eating meat. They instinctively know it is wrong to kill and yet are convinced by their parents that it is right.

Your second observation is a result of being programmed, through eating meat, that consequences don't matter. As the videos below show, kids are acutely conscious of the consequences of their actions.

Your observations about misunderstanding ownership stem from the fact that they are conditioned into thinking that taking something that doesn't belong to them, the life of the animal they are conditioned to eat, is acceptable when in fact (under natural law), it is theft and therefore not acceptable.

I could go but I'm sure you get what I'm saying.

The following short videos highlight what the slate really looks like and it is anything but blank, instead having unconditional love, infinite wisdom and profound compassion written all over it:

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So when will humans grow up? When they/we recognise the above for what it truly is. Everything else will fall into place if children are permitted and encouraged to practice the compassion which they naturally desire to.

[apokalypse]

if you on a park who you want to hang out with? kids or adult?we fighting among ourselves and steps onto each others... these et's they sees us as bunch of kids on playground being observer.



i could consider alot of us in here on non-mainstream an adult like Max Igan or even Bill Ryan...

[Lost N Found]

So define "Adult" Who coined that word and who gave it some meaning in human beings? Seems to me we start out arriving at some port, Hey what was this energy doing prior to crossing a sea and arriving at this port? And then we/us/them get shoved into a berth/birth. Oh and look here we are all shinny and new and unaware of where we are but time starts and we get to travel towards the end of it by going through childhood and into something called adulthood. All the while we are supposed to be learning something. Hey? who is supposed to be teaching us? So the examples we have are? So we get to that point of time that we are supposed to be called an Adult and what do we do then? We imitate all the stuff that was shown to us by Who? Oh yes we get to go on our own to survive. Now is this really adulthood? If all we are doing is imitating what has happened before then all we do is perpetuate the same old same old, is this right? Oh yes, forgot about all the pain and suffering one might traverse through in the time before adulthood.

Well here we are in this middle time of what ever it is and we follow along blindly with what we see in this illusion of fleshy stuff. Then as time keeps moving we start to deteriorate towards the end of what is considered time. At the end or near we become or think the same way we did when we first left the berthbirth and our minds become that shinny brand new piece of something and BAMB!!!! we are gone from time and then where does our energy go?

So to follow the thread, When are we going to become adults? First of all define that term or word and give a good explanation of what/who we are suppose to do. Would it be a change to the paradigm? Would it be to bring about a better world for all of us? These are just questions I have to try and understand. I do believe that there are a lot of us out here in this time ring that try to do just that and it will take all of us to make that happen I think. So then, is that when we finally grow up and become ADULTS in the sense of?

[Sean]

looking at conditions of our living and lifestyle just make me sick...when we going to growing up became an adult?

With me, it's gotten to where I have to decide what I want in MY world, my space. As a black man..I've seen some truly anti-social behavior towards me just because of my dark skin, on top of the anti-social behavior all of us endure. just in the last week, I saw 2 people brawling right in the street..and on the subway, I saw a panhandler smack a dude in the face for not giving him money. The ignorance and potential for violence of the average person you meet is staggering. I simply decided to be strong enough to EXCLUDE those who I feel don't bring positivity, decency, etc to my life. This will include my work relationships and everything else..because I no longer have time. My rose-colored glasses are OFF when it comes to human beings..can't be the "nice guy" I've always been. too many sociopaths who target you for it.

There's a reason I train martial arts..and carry a rather nasty knife(Karambit) at all times..