The Dulce Base, and Cherry Hinkle's testimony

[Bill Ryan]

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Thomas Castello was a security guard at the infamous Dulce base back in the 1990s who smuggled out a boxful of documents, videos, photos and an actual alien 'flash gun' before he disappeared soon after.

Cherry Hinkle (Avalon member Mystery) knew him well, and was with him when he buried the box in a remote desert location in Arizona. The box has never been retrieved.

Look at this extraordinarily interesting Facebook page (CHERRY HINKLE) (http://facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451&v=wall) and read carefully in every corner.

Clearly, she knew Tom Castello personally. After spending quite some time looking at Cherry's amazing information, I'm convinced this is totally real. I highly recommend all readers here take a close look. Trust me on this one.

http://facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451&v=wall

Cherry Hinkle's photo of Tom Castello:
http://projectavalon.net/Thomas_Castello_lg.jpg

[witchy1]

The information is pretty much what is described in this http://www.all-natural.com/dulce-11.html. Thomas Edwin Castello was allegedly a security officer at Dulce - whereabouts unknown and all traces of him have vanished. Does anyone know if his report has been discredited???? Are there better reports out there???

More links via Branton
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/branton/esp_dulcebook21.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_dulcebook.htm#menu

About 'Branton' Bruce Alan DeWalton (alandewalton@yahoo.com)(aka BRANTON) from above site
Branton states that he is a "sleeper" agent for the CIA who was (possibly after stumbling on some information that he wasn't supposed to know) electronically induced with an alternative personality which was "programmed" to serve the CIA Black Projects and the Bavarian-Gray collective.

More reports: http://www.astradome.com/dulce_battle_report.htm (condensed report)

You can also pay for the original report at http://www.edhca.org/

Colonel X has disclosed to Anthony Sanchez - who wrote a book called UFO Highway, indicates there are no reptiles at Dulce but other inhabitants. Havnt read the book yet. He denies existence of Costello

Another: http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r100699a.shtml

Just found this Asian site, have google translated - looks to be promising?????
http://www.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.php?tid=13026761&extra=&page=1

The above linked into http://www.subversiveelement.com/DulceSchneider.html. This is a lecture by Phil Schnider who died in 1996 just 7 months after he gave this lecture - execution style (with piano wire). He appears to be very knowledgeable about many things

Jury's out on who to believe on this one, but believe something is very wrong in Dulce
W

[witchy1]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1153.snc4/149498_163074363731144_100000857452451_274152_4978643_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=274639&id=100000857452451)

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451&v=wall#!/photo.php?fbid=163074363731144&set=a.163074357064478.28266.100000857452451&pid=274152&id=100000857452451

This from Cheryls fb - she created this as a true image of an encounter (more there)...... Yet to read it all

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A picture of Cheryls sons flag with a photo of Tom Costello on the left
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs949.snc4/74242_163126763725904_100000857452451_274431_5213315_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=274639&id=100000857452451)

[Dale]

Let me quickly add to this.

I may have said it before on a similar thread, but when dealing with militarized complexes, research facilities, and other "black budget" enterprises; one term continually surfaces:

Compartmentalization.

The witness known as "Colonel X" in Mr. Sanchez's book describes a battle, of sorts, at Rio Arriba (Dulce,) however, this is simply one view from one vantage point. A man by the name of Phil Schneider also describes a "shoot out;" though his account involves malevolent reptile beings in addition to the small, grey entities.

It is highly unknowable to understand the true workings down at Rio Arriba, or the nature of the battle(s) that may have occurred. The lie is, after all, different at every level.

[Bill Ryan]

He denies existence of Costello


Here's what Anthony Sanchez wrote (extracted verbatim from UFO Highway (http://ufohighway.com)).

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Sanchez: Colonel, what do you know about “Thomas Edwin Castello”, did he really exist? This is what people are really going to want to know.

Colonel X: That story is not real. If I cannot validate the existence of Thomas Edwin Castello, no one can.

That name never appeared on any documentation or in the DSD-3 Personnel Database. When that whole story emerged I looked long and hard at the data noting down the various names of the principles involved. And I am telling you with all conviction that I had my sources within my intelligence circles access the DSD-3 Personnel Database to check; they double checked, and found nothing validating the name Thomas Edwin Castello, or such a person ever having been to Dulce.

I even hired a Private Investigator to attempt to locate ‘Thomas Edwin Castello’ and his supposed family (Eric Castello, son and Cathy Castello, wife) ... he found nothing. This man and his family simply do not exist.

I personally conducted an extensive independent search within the National Archives and Records Administration database and nothing turned up. I also performed an exhaustive search in the Social Security Administration Death Index and nothing turned up. Finally, a search in all the known U.S. Military Personnel Locator Databases for Castello, with him being a supposed ‘USAF Sergeant’, also turned up nothing.

However, if with a twist if strange irony ... my search efforts managed to turn up a HAM Radio operator named ‘Thomas E. Castello’ in Roswell, New Mexico. Yes, that Roswell; very strange indeed. The problem was that the age of the Roswell subject simply did not match with the age of our subject who was born in 1941 in Glen Ellyn, IL; supposedly. The Roswell Castello is not the person I sought.

I also sought birth certificates from both ‘Glen Ellyn’ and ‘Wheaton’ townships in IL. Unfortunately, nothing turned up. Although, there are many Castello’s living in this part of Illinois, and several of whom share the same first name of Thomas; none match our subject’s birth date, birth year, or middle name or initial. There is no Thomas E. Castello.

Sanchez: Wow. That is going to unsettle a lot people who threw a lot of weight behind the story being legitimate because of this person.

Colonel X: Well, there just isn’t anything to be found on this person. And my sources say he never existed. You wanted Dulce, I gave you Dulce; the real Dulce.
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Bill's comments:

I strongly recommend you read the Facebook page of Cherry Hinkle (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451&v=wall) and decide for yourself.

I should note in passing that there are one or two problems with Anthony Sanchez's interview... the subject of a different discussion.

[witchy1]

About Thomas Castello (IMPORTANT)

Look at this extraordinarily interesting Facebook page (CHERRY HINKLE) (http://facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451&v=wall) and read carefully in every corner.

Clearly, she knew Tom Castello personally. After spending quite some time looking at Cherry's amazing information, I'm convinced this is totally real. I highly recommend all readers here take a close look. Trust me on this one.

http://facebook.com/profile.php?id=1...7452451&v=wall (http://facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451&v=wall)


This from Cheryl http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451&v=wall#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=167752313247943&id=100000857452451
That is the reason I came on Facebook - to tell just the facts and try to give one place that is NOT filled with theories and "stories."
I will not expect anyone to "believe me" just read the material and see if it makes sence than most of ...to wild stories. Almost ALL Dulce Base materials started from Tom Castello's files - and I am the person that is willing to admit I was his friend. He was my best friend - I will never lie about him. Another trustworthy place to look for information if John Rhodes site - reptoids.com.

Briefly - I was Tom Castello's best friend since 1962 (my father introduced us) Tom was lke my brother, and I loved him. We both enjoyed UFOs, sci-fi and searching for the truth. When we met, he was in the AirForce, stationed at Nellis. (La...s Vegas) He met and married Cathy and a couple years later had a son Eric. He left the AF, went to work for RAND corp in CA, then transfered to NM - Dulce.
In Oct '79 - there was a conflict at Dulce Base over unethical genetic experienments. He escaped the Base, but later returned and took materials out of the base. As his best friend he asked me for a safe place to bury the material the dangerous material, including his Flash Gun.
I helped bury the material in the Arizona mountains. He was on the run - stayed in touch with me via a mail code. He traveled a lot, finally accepted work in a underground in Costa Rica. He asked me to start sending the Dulce material to anyone would listen. That was in 1987. Tom told me if anything happened to him, he asked me to finish exposing the horrid base. In 1991 there was a 7.5 earthquake near his work site. I haven't heard him since that quake, so he is assumed dead. The stories about Tom and Dulce got wilder every year - a few months ago I broke my silence and went on Face book. And here we are - talking about it. (November 19 at 2:13pm)
Thank you Constance. Let me put it this way - I will never disclose the exact plans I have to keeping that box safe. It is best that I don't go into details on the securty involved. The box in Arizona mountains. Any one that ever visited th...at state they know there is a LOT of mountains. I am the only person that knows the precise location. Three people know the approximate location. The box is VERY safe. There are no "X" marks the spot map laying around. The location is in my memory only, but it is a place my son and I used to visit. My worry is if something happens to me, the box will be lost for ever. I'm not as young as I used to be. :-) November 20 at 3:31am ·

[SPIRIT WOLF]

As I have stated publicly, openly since the 90's The claims made by Castello cannot be valid for the simple reason that anyone trying to remove ANY item, no matter how small or seemingly insignificant, it would be picked up by base security immediately. Believe me, the security is SO tight in these facilities, cameras and sensors everywhere, you could not break wind without being captured on at least two monitoring devices. Therefore Castello would NOT have being able to photograph or film within the base let alone remove cameras and files as he alleges.

[Bill Ryan]

I wont ask how you found this - REMARKABLE!!!!!!!!!! Must read for sure. She is posting here as well
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451&v=wall#!/pages/Dulce-Base/104193819613943 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451&v=wall#%21/pages/Dulce-Base/104193819613943)


This from Cheryl http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451&v=wall#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=167752313247943&id=100000857452451 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451&v=wall#%21/permalink.php?story_fbid=167752313247943&id=100000857452451)
That is the reason I came on Facebook - to tell just the facts and try to give one place that is NOT filled with theories and "stories."
I will not expect anyone to "believe me" just read the material and see if it makes sence than most of ...to wild stories. Almost ALL Dulce Base materials started from Tom Castello's files - and I am the person that is willing to admit I was his friend. He was my best friend - I will never lie about him. Another trustworthy place to look for information if John Rhodes site - reptoids.com.

Briefly - I was Tom Castello's best friend since 1962 (my father introduced us) Tom was lke my brother, and I loved him. We both enjoyed UFOs, sci-fi and searching for the truth. When we met, he was in the AirForce, stationed at Nellis. (La...s Vegas) He met and married Cathy and a couple years later had a son Eric. He left the AF, went to work for RAND corp in CA, then transfered to NM - Dulce.
In Oct '79 - there was a conflict at Dulce Base over unethical genetic experienments. He escaped the Base, but later returned and took materials out of the base. As his best friend he asked me for a safe place to bury the material the dangerous material, including his Flash Gun.
I helped bury the material in the Arizona mountains. He was on the run - stayed in touch with me via a mail code. He traveled a lot, finally accepted work in a underground in Costa Rica. He asked me to start sending the Dulce material to anyone would listen. That was in 1987. Tom told me if anything happened to him, he asked me to finish exposing the horrid base. In 1991 there was a 7.5 earthquake near his work site. I haven't heard him since that quake, so he is assumed dead. The stories about Tom and Dulce got wilder every year - a few months ago I broke my silence and went on Face book. And here we are - talking about it. (November 19 at 2:13pm)
Thank you Constance. Let me put it this way - I will never disclose the exact plans I have to keeping that box safe. It is best that I don't go into details on the securty involved. The box in Arizona mountains. Any one that ever visited th...at state they know there is a LOT of mountains. I am the only person that knows the precise location. Three people know the approximate location. The box is VERY safe. There are no "X" marks the spot map laying around. The location is in my memory only, but it is a place my son and I used to visit. My worry is if something happens to me, the box will be lost for ever. I'm not as young as I used to be. :-) November 20 at 3:31am ·

Kerry and I were contacted independently three years ago and were told about the existence of this box and its approximate location. I was staggered to read Cherry Hinkle's verification - definitely the same place that had been described to us.

We know where it is (to within, say, an area ~100m square) - but were strongly discouraged from ever trying to find it. (We have not...)

Kerry and I each have a huge amount going on at the moment (and are on opposite sides of the Atlantic) - so we have not pursued this, or contacted Cherry. It's on our list.

[Bill Ryan]

As I have stated publicly, openly since the 90's The claims made by Castello cannot be valid for the simple reason that anyone trying to remove ANY item, no matter how small or seemingly insignificant, it would be picked up by base security immediately. Believe me, the security is SO tight in these facilities, cameras and sensors everywhere, you could not break wind without being captured on at least two monitoring devices. Therefore Castello would NOT have being able to photograph or film within the base let alone remove cameras and files as he alleges.

Hi, Barry - I can readily believe what you're saying, and totally understand why you're saying it.

If you have the time to read Cherry Hinkle's material (some of which is in the post above this one), you may see that her personal testimony might not be easily dismissed. It feels real to me.

Having said that: I have not a scrap of hard evidence. We were given the location of the box... but have not checked it out. (It would need quite a well-organized expedition to do so.)

All best wishes to you - Bill

[DawgBone]

Just some general thoughts about genetic experimentation:

I have no doubt that gene splicing has been going on for some time. But would your really want to create an animal with the face of a man? The chances of producing something useful or even viable are infinitesimal.

Surely this type of "research" would proceed gradually. Reengineer the female pelvis so that humans could have larger brains. Improve the immune system. Increase reaction times. Etc., etc.

The point is you would develop and embellish what works, not take random shots in the dark, hoping that some improvement would result.


There is another possibility, however. If these bizarre experiments are real, they may just be designed to horrify and degrade the human soul. Just another attempt to weaken us and fill us with fear.

We are stronger than that.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Thanks Bill, I will review that material. The ONLY way the materials could have been obtained and then removed from the facility would have been a from the top down organised and sanctioned event, that would have meant all security cameras tapes would have had to be scanned and segments removed, sensors switched off and body scans and physical searches curtailled. Not an easy task with the number of security personnel involved and whom would have been tasked to do the work. At Peasemore the rota per day was in the order of 50 plus officers per shift, and Peasemore is small compared to what Dulce is alleged to be. Imagine the task, the logistics involved in letting someone roam around with stills camera and movie camera, then taking these and a number of secure files out of the facility? If it was indeed a true event, and I stil have grave doubts, it would have had to be sanctioned from the top. That begs the question WHY? and for what reason?

[Bill Ryan]

Thanks Bill, I will review that material. The ONLY way the materials could have been obtained and then removed from the facility would have been a from the top down organised and sanctioned event, that would have meant all security cameras tapes would have had to be scanned and segments removed, sensors switched off and body scans and physical searches curtailled. Not an easy task with the number of security personnel involved and whom would have been tasked to do the work. At Peasemore the rota per day was in the order of 50 plus officers per shift, and Peasemore is small compared to what Dulce is alleged to be. Imagine the task, the logistics involved in letting someone roam around with stills camera and movie camera, then taking these and a number of secure files out of the facility? If it was indeed a true event, and I stil have grave doubts, it would have had to be sanctioned from the top. That begs the question WHY? and for what reason?

Gotcha 100%, Barry. I fully believe it.

The only way I can understand material could have been taken out was through some kind of 'everyone look the other way' organized or agreed security compromise. A stretch - but surely not totally impossible if a sufficient number of the guys there were all disaffected or upset.

As a hypothesis, he may have been prepared to carry the personal risk, but his friends might have been willing to support him in clever ways without getting personally involved.

One person alone successfully outsmarting the entire high-tech security system - yes, that's a little hard to credit.

Cheers, Bill

[Agape]

stopped watching the first vid at 1:24... it gave me such a bad vibes...

That's it. The artistic and scientific quality is extremely poor. And the intent feels dark.
Try to present any such thing at legitimate scientific gathering and it will get torren to pieces .

It's some youngsters making this



:alien:

[witchy1]

Correspondance from Cherry:

..........As for Tom and Dulce Base, certainly most of my knowledge of the Base is through Tom's work. As for your friend that still doubts, that is ok with me, I do not try to convince anyone of anything. I just write exactly what happened, no wild stories, just facts, and to the best of my knowledge, and after that, it is up to the readers to decide of they choose they believe me or not. I am just one person, trying to make a difference in the world by trying to telling the truth, not the colorful claims that have grown over the years.

Is there another place online to post my correspondance from Tom? No. This is it. I am one very private lady, very shy and I am attempting to honor my best friend's memory the best way I can.
Thank you for writing - questions is always welcome.
I am writing two books, and a lot of the common questions will be answers, as well as never published material will be introduced.
Best regards
Cherry

[Martin]

yeah i made it about 20 seconds in before feeling the urge to bail.

i can normally sit through the craziest japanese horror movies, or listen to the blackest heavy metal, but something about that just did not feel right at all.

reminds me a bit of that youtube channel with the 'confessions of a nasa scientist', or whatever it was called.

Nine seconds! If the message would be important it would surely not be presented in this annoying way.


MfG

Martin

[TigaHawk]

im sure the message is deliverd/presented in better ways - just the op may have not made the best of decisions to link that video to this community, purely because of how it's edited/presented and taht we're all conspiracy nuts that pull holes in everything - present something that looks realy dodgy and has them trying to make an eartly creature seem alien - raises our BS flags which = bad.

[shadowstalker]

Yes Shadowstalker; I find a person much more credible if they've nothing to gain from what they say. David Icke sacrificed his reputation on the altar of sincerity and I applaud his courage, but it also lends to his arguments a genuine weight that can only come from such selflessness.

Seikou-Kishi

I agree

[witchy1]

SPIRIT WOLF

Re: The alien shoot out at Dulce underground base
Thanks Bill, I will review that material. The ONLY way the materials could have been obtained and then removed from the facility would have been a from the top down organised and sanctioned event, that would have meant all security cameras tapes would have had to be scanned and segments removed, sensors switched off and body scans and physical searches curtailled.
I Spirit Wolf, I asked Cherry this question - her response as follows. (my fb is down at the moment "due to a security issue" - never happened to me before.) Anyway this is copy of notification via email)

-Cherry Hinkle- (http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=100000857452451&mid=3588d44G29752634G5eab867G0&n_m=kandt2%40optusnet.com.au)November 26, 2010 at 3:34am
Re: Me again
Since he was the head of security, and in charge of calibrating the cameras, as he returned to the base via an ice cave, he changed the cameras as he re-entered the base. He knew which camera would be on time lapse, and which would be off.

[shadowstalker]

that's how i would do.
Boy you can learna lot from a forum like this ..hehehehe;)

[SPIRIT WOLF]

I find the above a little unsettling, to be head of security, only one officer in charge of calibrating cams? No sorry, thats not how it works, at least at the US facility Peasemore, and I'm sure its standard SOP, there were a number of CCTV monitors sat behind desks 24/7, several at any one time, never ever a single monitor. All cams used 24/7 recordings which were kept and then sent to Washington and Fort Meade. There were no cams on time lapse at Peasemore as that defeats the object of the game. I'm sure the same security protocols would have been in use at EVERY such secure facility. Therefore I cannot accept that statement.

[TigaHawk]

I agree spiritwolf. I work for Aus government - nothing to do with anythign military or dangerous, i just work in a datacentre, where alot of servers are housed.

CCTV of the building + one of our clients has their own cameras setup on the datacentre floor which their own security team watch (and tell you to move along if you stand in their "space")

Being the only 24/7 staff here - we know/talk to security alot. They work shifts of 2, have a room the size of a double bathroom full of TV monitors and all footage is backed up, and sent offsite and kept in a fireproof/explosionproof/etc building for 7 years, then it can be destroyed.


The most secure thing we have here are Treasury servers. a military base trying to keep quiet what we're claiming they are - would in no way shape or form be successfull if their security was setup as described - its just asking for trouble.

[Teakai]

Thanks Bill, I will review that material. The ONLY way the materials could have been obtained and then removed from the facility would have been a from the top down organised and sanctioned event, that would have meant all security cameras tapes would have had to be scanned and segments removed, sensors switched off and body scans and physical searches curtailled. Not an easy task with the number of security personnel involved and whom would have been tasked to do the work. At Peasemore the rota per day was in the order of 50 plus officers per shift, and Peasemore is small compared to what Dulce is alleged to be. Imagine the task, the logistics involved in letting someone roam around with stills camera and movie camera, then taking these and a number of secure files out of the facility? If it was indeed a true event, and I stil have grave doubts, it would have had to be sanctioned from the top. That begs the question WHY? and for what reason?

It's just a thought - but it was around the 60's, so maybe they didn't have all this super dooper security measure stuff.

[Teakai]

I Spirit Wolf, I asked Cherry this question - her response as follows. (my fb is down at the moment "due to a security issue" - never happened to me before.) Anyway this is copy of notification via email)

-Cherry Hinkle- (http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=100000857452451&mid=3588d44G29752634G5eab867G0&n_m=kandt2%40optusnet.com.au)November 26, 2010 at 3:34am
Re: Me again
Since he was the head of security, and in charge of calibrating the cameras, as he returned to the base via an ice cave, he changed the cameras as he re-entered the base. He knew which camera would be on time lapse, and which would be off.


Oh good, well that's sorted then.
:)

[Bluewool]

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_exopol/exopolZJ02_01.jpg

I remember a UK magazine article showing some of his other diagrams of symbols for different ET races but cant find them on the internet.Anyone help?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/branton/esp_dulcebook21.htm

[daledo]

im sure the message is deliverd/presented in better ways - just the op may have not made the best of decisions to link that video to this community, purely because of how it's edited/presented and taht we're all conspiracy nuts that pull holes in everything - present something that looks realy dodgy and has them trying to make an eartly creature seem alien - raises our BS flags which = bad.

I was contemplating whether or not to edit the video and remove parts but decided to release it as it was. It has alot of credibility in my mind even though it might not have been presented in the correct manner to some people. As I said earlier in this post... the makers of this added their personal style to it. Everyone is different and to judge someone for any reason in my mind is wrong as long as they are not being deceptive. I will rework the video when I get time for those that it might have offended.

[Bill Ryan]

yeah i made it about 20 seconds in before feeling the urge to bail.

i can normally sit through the craziest japanese horror movies, or listen to the blackest heavy metal, but something about that just did not feel right at all.

reminds me a bit of that youtube channel with the 'confessions of a nasa scientist', or whatever it was called.

Exactly.

Sensational, no references or sources, just a mishmash of grabbed clips and images that could have come from anywhere.

Not useful at all to anyone except for perpetrating generalized rumors that may or may not have validity.

It really worries me when this is not obvious to viewers.


It has a lot of credibility in my mind

Why?

If we have not been told where the material came from, I'd gently suggest there's no basis to conclude anything about it apart from that it's a re-edited image-fest of stuff that is absolutely not helpful to anyone.

Much of YouTube is like this. It's a massive problem. The basis of the problem is that many YouTubers are not sophisticated or experienced enough to understand either what constitutes evidence or credible testimony, or the research process of citing sources to assist others in going further.

Many of them have seen a lot of Hollywood movies and are trying to create their own 10 minute version - like this. It's entertainment - but no way is it responsible journalism or research.

This is not data. It's an artistic presentation that just leaves impressions - which is what it's designed to do. Nothing more.

[StopMotion]

if there is no proof then why is it real and creditable? to believe something is to wish for something. its stated in the word it self. however, we all have our own opinion but it should be expressed that that is what it is and not an object with out doubt that it is what you can say it is. whats that saying ... if you put lipstick on a pig its still a pig?

[Erin]

Okay, so I read UFO Highway a few weeks ago, and having glanced over this Cherry person's profile, I have deduced the following (though keep in mind I am not as familiar with Tom Costello's information):

1. Because of the box Cherry referenced has affirmed info that Bill and Kerry have gotten, it's safe to assume that this woman has certain credibility with regards to Dulce and Tom Costello.

2. It makes a lot of sense that Colonel X didn't ever hear of/see Tom Costello, because according to his testimony in UFO Highway, he didn't arrive at Dulce until 2 days after the major shoot out event that presumably prompted Costello to leave.

3. Tom Costello could have conceivably escaped Dulce base with images, documents, etc given the state of disarray Dulce was in during and shortly after the shootout incident.

4. Colonel X, due to compartmentalization, could have conceivably been in the dark about certain things Tom Costello said regarding reptilians at Dulce, etc.

In short, it is possible that the testimony of Tom Costello and Colonel X are both accurate independent of each other, even though Colonel X insisted that Tom Costello never existed. This is not to say that the Colonel is trying to disprove Tom Costello for any ulterior motive, as much as he perhaps doesn't want to admit to himself that he may have gaping knowledge of Dulce despite all of the time he spent there.

I'm still going to read more into this Cherry person and Tom Costello's stuff as to try and find more parallels with what Colonel X said in UFO highway. I'd be interested to know if the stuff in the box matches what Anthony Sanchez said he saw in photos that the Colonel was able to smuggle out of Dulce.

[witchy1]

Hi all, Cherry's notes are available to all via fb. These are as left in letters to her by Tom

This is copy of how he got back into the base following the disturbance ( I think)

"It was late October when I escaped during the subterrestrial conflict known as the Dulce Wars. I waited until the next day then drive my car as far as I could, up past the end of the dirt road. I could and coaxed the Chevy even deeper into the cedar and pine forest. I knew that turning back equals defeat, so hiked the rugged small mountain near the top and entered the tiny chilly ice cave opening. I belly crawled the forty feet to the larger room dragging a homemade dyed yellow jumpsuit in my gym bag. I was in hope I could blend into the crowd in the third level and sneak into my remote office near the southwestern computer banks."
From a letter dated 1987

Cherry has written about the location of the access points to the underground network and many other things if anyone is interested. Should I start a new thread if there is interest????
Also Cherry is writing 2 books that cover previously undisclosed information from Tom

This as well:
Tom Castello's job title was Security Technician, but in the manual, his position was listed as Majority Leader, Security Division, ULTRA 7 - MN Section.

[witchy1]

Entrances in or near Dulce NM. I would not suggest anyone go anywhere near these places.

The Dulce Base entrances in or near Dulce New Mexico

1. Dulce Lake – East south, statue of the Virgin in blue robes holding flowers, inside a small stone grotto. Use a Greek cross for a key (inverted) To activate the voice security, use a male voice, (not loud) say “Ave, Ave, Ave.” The three foot statue moves forward, look for the small opening with a mounted ladder inside.
2. Highway 1 south to intersect, turn east, follow dirt road approximately six miles south. Turn west toward mountain on a small trail (part of a dry wash) look for a link chain fence. Cross at the posed sign, up beside shrubs and trees is a small shed. Inside a wall calendar hides the controls for the elevator.
3. Go to the basement in the medical facility, look for the small door to the sub-basement that holds the narrow shaft to the first level to Dulce Base.
4. Look for the “coal mine,” several signs for no trespassing. The “mine” looks real but it’s a façade. It is about three miles east of the town limits, turn south on a small dirt road towards a mesa, “mine” in view.
5. Cordova Canyon. South highway 17.5 miles at the “Y” (south/east) approximately four and a half miles near a statue of a saint, use a Greek cross (rosary size) Use male voice “Ave, Ave, Ave.” Statues moves forward.

Use a geological survey map. Note: Aztec NM UFO crash in direct line to Dulce site. Also note that Dulce NM is a low gravity area, Dulce is -260, indicating caverns below the area.

[witchy1]

Another letter;

"I’ll tell you about the marsh tunnels. I sure recall one specific tunnel, the long tunnel to Taos, is completely different. The symbol that marks the portal is the symbol for a marsh, or wetlands. The shape resembles the letter 'Z' with two cross lines.

"I was told I needed to go pick up a foreign dignitary in Taos, but it was not until I had to make that goodwill run did I realize why the tunnel earned that name. After a few miles, I’d say twenty miles from the main base the rock tunnel walls became mostly white in color and decorated with carved plant life of all kinds. On those walls, I saw ancient fern trees with huge Rose like flowers depicted in beautiful deep relief. These bright walls portray a dense archaic tropical thicket.

“In the far background, the clear depiction of an unknown ancient mountains range in the incredible details, they even showed the trees, oak, cedar, pine – all lush and bushy. With that scene, I slowed the car, searched the walls, hoping to see a few animals or humanoid creatures, but there were none. No signatures or markings in sight, unless I failed to recognize the writing script, or in a long lost unrecognized hand. "It looked like a faithfully displayed depiction of every plant on earth, ancient and modern. Mile after miles of primitive trees, wheat, corn, flowers and grasses graced the gleaming walls.

"Cherry, it must be the most beautiful place on earth. To this day I do not know if aliens created as a museum, or perhaps a shrine to plant life, or a forgotten race of human created it. Regardless of the reason, the hands of modern man could not have made these striking scenes. These carved plants are in minute detail, and they look brand new.

"My eyes had quickly scanned the upper sections of the tunnel in hope to
find the source of the soft illumination, but there no source I could find, and no answers.

"I stopped the electric car, turned off the ignition. I wanted to touch those walls, in hope I might guess the age upon closer examination. To my surprise, a transparent covering covered the walls. Those walls felt like polished glass, and looked about a foot thick! The biggest shock was when I touched the astonishing gleaming wall. The slightest contact created a wave of quivering of the lights. What is even more surprising was the lights were inside the glass!

Starting as a soft gentle harmonic sound that resonated with the shimmering lights, and grew to a bone deep vibration that was subtle and surprisingly invasive, not different as when someone tries to speak to me when I am meditating. The tunnel echoed with musical tones. I struggled to isolate the difference between what I was hearing and what I was feeling. I could not separate them.

"I sensed that the tones provide information of the ancient language. The changing tones were at first received at a rapid rate, it made it difficult to couldn't understand. Like learning a foreign language, at first the word arrived as an endless sound, but after a while separate words formed and became recognized. I know the musical tones are words and I recognize it as a lost language.

"I started the car, almost feeling light headed from the non-stop sounds. I
wanted to stop the flow of words that were musical and pleasant. After I
knew the tones were actual words, I wanted the dialog to
end. I felt those tones clear to my bones, and the tonal vibrations refused
to leave me until I left the tunnel!

"It was the most profound experiences of my life, but I'm sure I
wouldn't want to do it again!

[witchy1]

Underground Map of the Sub-Global System

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_aMrGNSSQ1pU/TPF4tg1ZfMI/AAAAAAAADTM/XeL7IDTN_hg/s1600/tunnels_aliens.gif
-Cherry Hinkle- (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451) The map is all over the world - only that section of the map is all it shows. There would a a much bigger map to show the eastern USA.
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http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1203.snc4/155584_164676146904299_100000857452451_281238_2390673_s.jpg
Dulce Base symbol

According to Ton Castello, the reptons do not care one whit about the troubles and wars of the surface races. They do not indulge in human political affairs.

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Gravity maps - Dulce New Mexico - The color BLUE shows cavities or caverns in area.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0061/html/nm_boug.htm

[witchy1]

Cherry has provided these links for further reading - sorry about the colour.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/dulce.htm

and this one
http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/ebe.htm

50th anniversary of first contact - Eisenhower's 1954 Meeting With Extraterrestrials:
http://www.abidemiracles.com/56789.htm

External report into the base
http://www.exopolitics.org/Dulce-Report.htm

[Bill Ryan]

Hi all, I have obtained access to Cherry's notes as left in letters to her by Tom.

Very, very very good work. THANK YOU.

Folks, I believe this is important. Let's take a close look at this material.

Witchy1, please extend our warm regards to Cherry and tell her that Kerry and I would love to talk with her sometime about all this. We both believe it's an authentic and important story, and some of it (about the buried box) matches information we ourselves received three years ago, but never acted on as we were strongly discouraged from doing so (for both security and heavy-duty logistical reasons).

[SPIRIT WOLF]

ONLY when I see this alleged box of materials, have it verified will I accept any of the Castello claims, sorry.

[witchy1]

I understand Spirit Wolf. Please do not take offence if I keep posting information. She is a wealth of knowledge about many things.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

It still does not quite gell with me even if this escapade of Castello was after the alleged firefight at the alleged Dulce base, the security must have been so lax as to be non existant, and for such an alleged secure facility that does not ring true at all. Seems then the security at Peasemore, at the same period in time, was much MORE secure even being much smaller in size. Totally unbelievable from my own experience sorry. Prove me wrong, I'm dying to accept the story he portrayed.

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I understand Spirit Wolf. Please do not take offence if I keep posting information. She is a wealth of knowledge about many things.
Of course not, its very interesting and am following it closely. Simply goes against all I personally experienced at a similar facility in the same time frame. Please carry on

[witchy1]

This is a cut and paste

"This a questions and answers exchanged between Adrian Dorsey and Cherry. I asked permission to share the exchange and Adrian kindly granted that permission.
The questions are regarding the Reptons and Dracon is Dulce Base.... and more.

MANY THANKS ADRIAN DORSEY FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHS!!



To make it easier to follow the questions and answers, scroll down the page and Adrian's questions and below them, my replies between the rows like this:
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my answers
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Adrian Dorsey September 11 at 4:22pm
Cherry,I have enjoyed reading the Dulce notes that you have posted very much. Invaluable information. I thank you for your diligence on the subject of Thomas Castello's work.

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Thank you for your kind words. and thank you for your questions.
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I have a question if I may... The Dracons/Reptons that are present at Dulce such as Kaarsh...Now I know you mentioned that they tolerated the presence of men as the lower caste working race which aligns with our previous conversation about the Anunnaki creating men to serve them.

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Yes, that is unchanged over the thousands of years.
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The Reptons that are there now are they there as rulers with the full dominion over this planet as they ruled in the old days?

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To the best of my knowledge the Dracon/Reptons are leaders, but they too, answer to a higher power. The only similar reference might be then Tom mentioned "the King of This World" a ruler that resides in a deep cavern near on in Tibet, but frequently visits other caverns, including Dulce and Telos City. (Mt. Shasta area)I never heard a specific name for this King of This World. He or she must have a name, but Tom didn't know his name either.The Dracon are world leaders, but like all leaders, some are more powerful than others, Karsh, with his power in vast Dulce Base and in the equally large Perica Base in Arizona is very powerful.
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We may be the lower caste... the genetic bastard offspring... but do they rule with complete autonomy our little blue green planet or have men hampered that autonomy with devious aggressive tendancies that we are so known to display.

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The human race like to think they are in self control and make their own decisions and carve their own destiny. But the truth the truth is frequently painful. The human race have been guided since the Garden of Eden, and was guided in the other previous encounters too. I don't know how you feel about biblical literature, but you might remember that in the first one or two pages of Genesis, God made the remark "Replenish the Earth and be fruitful."Replenish the Earth - RE- plenty - ish the Earth or fill the Earth AGAIN. Not fill the Earth for the first time - fill it again. RE-plenish.The human race was taught by their masters, the reptilians in the Garden of Eden. When the human race was kicked out the Garden, the Dracon felt pity and taught them the ways of the gods, gardening, planting, the stars and war. The human race are unchanged from the first murder - Cain.
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I suspect that the children they have created are not always behaving as parents would be niave enough to expect.

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True.
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Does Thomas mention any tension between men and Repton?

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Yes. But also there were friendly reptons that disagreed with the Dracon leaders and joined the rebellion. One of the biggest problem is the natural curiosity of the human race. When there are faced with barriers their reactions is to a way to get past them. Both the Dracon and the reptons didn't like humans sneaking past the 'off limits' and wanting to see what they are "missing." That created a lot of tension.
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Are we subjects of the repton or are they subjugated by us at gun point?

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If required, but the human race can and will work willingly with other beings. No gun play required. It it came to "them or us" the human race would would fight, but so far, the $$$ is more powerful than the guns.
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Is there an uneasy alliance forged between our elite powers that be and Repton behind the scenes which leaves the public middle sector vulnerable to be abused by both sides which is obviously happening anyway?

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I can only guess or offer my opinion on that aspect. But it is logical to assume there is an uneasy alliance judging at the broken treaties and ignored abused public trust. The human race have rarely stood fairly and created a fair honest treaty. (look at the Native Americans history?) Too many times the general public are left out of the picture, and the powers that be make up the rules to please themselves - or to please the Dracon masters. Please remember that this is strictly my opinion, not anything that Tom Castello mentioned.
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Forgive me for so many left field questions... but I do thank you for your patience.

Adrian"

[witchy1]

Dulce Base: The Size of the Base

Question: What are the dimensions if Dulce Facility?

Answer: There are 1,700 paved of roads under the town of Dulce and North New Mexico. Towards Los Alamos is another 800 miles of tunnels. Three of the tunnels are paved; the other four are not paved.
Question: How deep are the levels?

Answer: The first level starts 200 feet from the surface. Each level has the average ceiling of seven feet, except levels six and seven. The ceilings there are approximately 45 to 60 feet. The ceiling of the average highway roadway reaches 25 feet, with an arched shape.

The Central Hub (security) 3000 feet wide, and is circular is shape. Use a 7.5-minute scale map to try to comprehend the size of the place.

[witchy1]

From a letter dated 1988 - Tom Castello

Hi Cherry,
You asked me about the identication cards, and the answer is no, when you leave the Base you must insert the card to open the door, it is a portal door - the card does not come out. You can't even change your ming and turn around and go back and pick up something you forgot. The only way you can re-enter the Base is to return back to Los Alamos and take the shuttle back to the Base. It only happenes once, and then you learn to be certain you have everything you want when you leave.

You asked about the uniforms. There are jumpsuits for each level, when you change levels, you change jumpsuit. It gets to be a hassle when you are in a hurry and change clothing. But the suits are light weight, zip open easy and are stretchy, so you don't have to worry about the fit.

Here inside the Dulce Base, the many Security Officers wear jump-suits that match the color of the levels. On the left upper side of the chest, the back and both shoulders wear with the Dulce symbol. (an inverted triangle with an upside capital T in the middle, the crossbar of the T extending outside the sides)

The standard hand-weapon at Dulce is a Flash Gun, which is good against humans and aliens. The Flash Gun is formally known as the ArmorLux.

The I.D. Card - used in card slots for the doors and elevators and exit portals - has the Dulce symbol above the I.D. photo. Government agents, and other political people use a special card with the Great Seal of the United States in the middle. There are a few exceptions one or two cards displayed the All-Seeing Eye and the Pyramid. I didn't ask why their cards meant. The FBI, CIA etc, wear both cards - no exceptions.

You asked about the Shuttle between Los Alamos and other points - When I leave Dulce headed home, the trip lasts roughly ten or fifteen minutes - the longest part of the trip is the slowing down and stopping at the post. (station) I've never did it, but I heard you can cross the nation - Mt Shasta (Telos City) to Washington DC - in well under two hours. THAT is too fast for me! The seating in the shuttles can be mirrored in most Amtrak trains here in the American west. There is a Club car, but most of the riders are dignitaries expecting a long ride and want a cocktail and relax on the ride. They are always surprised.


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The remaining portions of the letter are personal, and not involved with Dulce Base Material.

[witchy1]

About the Reptons
DULCE BASE: THE REPTON


by -Cherry Hinkle- (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451) on Sunday, August 1, 2010 at 3:35pm


The female reptons tend to be from four and a half feet to seven feet tall. They could reach over seven feet, but a female at seven feet is considered exceptional. The males from five feet to eight feet and sometimes close to nine feet.

The females give birth to her offspring and suckles the child. Like human females, the golden face female repton can be feminine and shapely, and forward in her desires.

The male repton are strong and muscular with plate-like scales on their chest. The golden face male are drones and mostly wait for instructions from a Dracon leader before doing anything.

The leaders of the reptons are the beige or tan Dracon. They do not age the same as humans, they Dracon can not lead until they have gone through metamorphosis and develop wings. Few of them have working wings, most are more like wing like small appendages that resemble the wings of bats.

The reptons consider Earth their planet. They claim they were here before Adam & Eve arrived and there was a lot of them, not just two. (the bible DOES add credence to that, Genesis 5: 2, "Male and female created them and blessed them and called THEIR name Adam ...")

[witchy1]

Some comments/thoughts from Cherry in response to questions asked:

Todd - You asked if I met a repton - I stood face to face with a seven foot repton. It is something that it is not easy to forget. I was less than three feet from him, and could smell the strong odor of him, he smelled like an over ripe cucumber. I know that sounds odd, but that is the fact.
To this day, I am not comfortable discussing that encounter, and prefer to concentrate with the Dulce Base and Tom Castello

Yes, I too, heard about the so called 'ET federation" (they should bother to look up the meaning of 'federation,' maybe they would stop using that term)
I do not have much faith in the old 'space brothers' concept. It would be nice to think an advanced race is racing to our rescue, but thats not going to happen. If you were part of an advanced intelligent race, would you race to rescue a violent & hostile race? The human race are FAR from gentle and kind, and when the huge cubic crafts arrive in sight, every military on Earth will be trying to blast them out of existance.

I have a sculpture of one of them I met several years ago that shows their basic form. Like the human race, the repton are indivuals with different faces, there is no "one face fits all." Most of them have ridges on their heads, but some have rather smooth heads.
I'll see if I can try to post a photo of my own sculpture.
As for the three cubical craft, you are correct, there maybe more than three, and yes, near the Kuibers belt, past Pluto. Three were large enough to be seen with no problem, the others were though be there, but not visible to the telescopes. But again, I can not say this is true - for sure - because it is rumored and has not been confirmed by any government. In my opinion, they are in position, and I would not be surprised be government announcementany day now.

I can only guess like everyone else, but everything is in place to indicate it......
I heard - can't vouch for the claims - there are three crafts on the far side of Jupiter, five years ago they were spotted just past Plutos orbit.
Five years they were scene, and now two years to 2012 - seven years - it must give a scientist strong clues about their size and capabilities.
Hmm, seven years - biblical again, The Great Tribulation? We we are already into the fifth years to the Tribulation, I better spend a little time reading the so called 'signs.'

There will be a war and the "stage" for the war will be on the surface of Earth. If the humans get hurt, that is not a problem for them.
I have sometimes if the up-coming war Tom talked is the war mentioned in the book of Revelation. If that is the case, it matches perfect.
In the book of Revelation it mentions God's craft, the "New Jerusalem" and it is cube in shape. I wonder why Star Trek call the bad guys (Borg) arrive in a cube shaped craft?

[witchy1]

Cherry has asked me to provide her facebook page to all. All that I have posted today is from her notes page. Cherry is only concerned that the truth is told and as many people are aware of this dispicble place the better. If you dont have a fb - there is a wealth of information on the link below that anyone can access: This is her message:

Thanks Karen. I assume you and your friend did provide my Facebook address to your readers? If not, please DO correct the article add my Facebook address and writing credits. I do appreciate your great work spreading the work! {!! thanks !!}
I rarely (VERY rarely) communicate with others other than Facebook.
(never on phone, when I say I am a hermit - believe it.) I am very private person.
But if your friend wants to contact me here on Facebook I would be very happy to correspond with her here.
Many thanks again for taking time to spread the real truth!
**Blessings**
Cherry



http://www.facebook.com/notes.php?id=100000857452451&s=10#!/profile.php?id=100000857452451

[witchy1]

It's Against the Law to Be Exposed to Aliens

http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/et-law.htm

-Cherry Hinkle- (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451) There are a lot of laws that are hard to believe, but as you know, those laws are passed "to protect you." Don't you safe knowing if an alien exposes you from their diseases you can be placed is custody with out any hearings or lawyers?

[witchy1]

For those of us believers and who care: A message from Cherry applicable to all Avalonians

-Cherry Hinkle- (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451)November 29 at 12:45pm Report (http://www.facebook.com/ajax/report.php?type=9&cid=1674922229508&rid=100000857452451&cid2=3&cid3=1&h=AQCNHQ-WH94THW2U)
It is sad, but the entire world suffers from too much control - or too much apathy. It is up to those that do care to reach others and make a difference.
Your help - and the difference you make - is truly appreciated to the hapless victims in Dulce Base. We never know who will be 'chosen' for their experiements. It would be you, or me. It is frightening, but I have only one soul - and if I don't fight for the victims - I am nothing.
Thanks again Karen - you are one special lady.
Cherry

[Agape]

To Spirit Wolf : I'm no shooter but I may give it one empty shot. After all, what difference does it make to the vast undeground complex ..

a/ Tom Castello is not the real name or the real person

b/ the person/testimony /possible documents were delivered /escaped on unknown base/territory in unknown state

c/ the person could be shocked, ill and blurred, whatever memories are of 'aliens' they may or may not correspond to factual reality of the world behind

d/ documents, also, could be blurred and someone attempted to reconstruct them by means available in those days ..

And then, there was Tomas Castello ID who kept answering all the remaining questions..



Goodnight though, my far shot opinions

:sleep:


See you at Dulce ..

[Strat]

Thanks for all the info witchy.

Does anyone have any information on the supposed nightmare halls video that's somewhat popular on youtube? This is the video I mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5-yW3hb8Sc

[witchy1]

Hi Strat, had a look, its the same scene as in the first post..........who knows to be honest. It could be jars from the medical pathology dept.........they have tons of really gross stuff stored in preservative. Until the place is exposed I guess we will never know - I guess its called a 'secret' base for a reason. I do think (hope) the edges are becoming unraveled tho.
W

ADDIT:
From Cherry: The Video clips come from a Japanese film quite a few years ago, for a Japanesse Television Special. Using Tom's discriptions and my sketches, they created a model scene and created that clip. I still have the original VCRs of the entire TV special - all in Japanese - of course.

[witchy1]

Hi all, here is the transcript of the original interview provided by Tom without any additional comments by writers. (includin that Branson person) It is quite long - W

The following is a list of the ORIGINAL questions and answer that were directed to former Dulce Base Security Officer Thomas Castello before his disappearance. Many researchers added or changed the answers. This the exact questions and answers with no added comments added.
Cherry

They are followed by his responses:

1.QUESTION - When exactly was the Archuleta installation constructed?

ANSWER - I heard the Army engineers started Dulce in 1937-38,enlarged over the years, most recent work was completed 1965-66 to connect tunnels to the Page Base, site of one of the older underground facilities. The four corners base is called Perica. Most of the Native Americans living in that area are aware of that base, and
could tell us about the underground life forms that frequently are spotted near those communities, Bigfoot, etc.

2. Q -- By what means was the installation constructed? Are you familiar with the alleged developments made by the Rand Corporation of a highly efficient bore or mole machine capable of melting rock using nuclear powered wolfram-graphite tipped 'drill-cones'?

A -- According to several senior maintenance workers, part of it was blasted by nuclear devices in the sixties. There are sections, like the shuttle tunnels, which were formed by an advanced tunneling machine that leaves the tunnel walls smooth. The finished walls in those tubes resemble polished black glass.

3. Q -- By WHOM was the Dulce installation originally constructed?

A -- Nature started the caverns. The Draco (reptilian humanoids) used the caverns and tunnels for centuries. Later, through Rand Corporation plans, it was enlarged
repeatedly. The original caverns included ice caves and sulfur springs that the 'aliens' found perfect for their needs. The Dulce caverns rival Carlsbad caverns in size.

4. Q -- Are the various electro magnetically-controlled air or space craft-- that has been seen leaving from and arriving at Mt. Archuleta --manned by humans, the alien entities, or both?

A -- Archuleta Mesa is a minor area... the craft leave and are stored in five areas. One is SE of Dulce, one near Durango Co., one at Taos, N. M., and the main fleet is stored at Los Alamos.

5. Q -- Others have suggested that some of the entities below Dulce are not of extraterrestrial origin, and that they are actually descended from saurian or reptoid beings such as the Velociraptors or Stenonychosaurus Equallus -- a 'serpentine' race or races similar to that hinted at in the third chapter of the book of Genesis?

A -- Yes, some reptiles are native to this planet. The ruling caste of aliens are reptilian. The beige or white beings are called The Draco. Other reptilian beings are green, and some are brown. They were an ancient race on Earth, living underground. It may have been one of the Draconian beings that tempted Eve in the Garden of Eden. Reptoids rightly consider themselves native Terrans. Perhaps they are the ones
we call the Fallen Angels. Maybe not, either way, we are considered the 'squatters' on Earth.

6. Q -- Where do the little gray Aliens fit in?

A -- They work for, and are controlled by the Draco. There is other gray skinned beings that are not in league with the Draco.

7. Q -- Did you ever talk to any of the Aliens at the Base?

A -- Since I was the Senior Security Technician at that base, I had to communicate with them on a daily basis. If there were any problems that involved security or video camera's, I was the one they called. It was the reptilian working caste that usually did the physical labor in the lower levels at Dulce. Decisions involving that caste were usually made by the white Draco. When human workers caused problems for the working caste, the reptoids went to the white Draconian boss, and the Draco
called me. At times, it felt like it was a never ending problem. Several human workers resented the no nonsense or get back to work attitude the working caste lives by. When needed, intervention became a vital tool. The biggest problem were human workers who foolishly wandered around near the off limits areas of the Alien Section. I guess it's human nature to be curious and to wonder what is past the barriers. Too
often someone found a way to bypass the barriers and nosed around. The Cameras near the entrance usually stopped them before they got themselves in serious trouble. A few times I had to formerly request the return of a human worker.

8. Q -- Are there other sites tied-in to the 'shuttle network' other than those which you mentioned, and if so, where are the entrances?

A – Where? Everywhere. They criss-cross the world as an endless Subterranean highway. Like a freeway, except this one is underground. The subterranean highway in America is like a freeway except it's underground. That highway depends on electric motors for the paved roads, and it is for limited travel. There is another style of transit for freight and for passengers that is for rapid travel. That world wide
network is called the Sub-Global System. It has checkpoints at each country entry. There ARE shuttle tubes that 'shoot' the trains at incredible speeds using a mag-lev and vacuum method. They travel at a speed that excels the speed of sound. Part of your question involves the location of entrances to that base. The easiest way to answer is to say every state in the U.S.A. has them. Frequently, the entrances are
camouflaged as sand quarries, or mining operations. Other complex portals are found on military bases. New Mexico and Arizona have the largest amounts of entrances followed by California, Montana, Idaho, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Kansas, Arkansas and Missouri. Of all the state's Florida and North Dakota have the least amount of entrances. Wyoming has a road that opens directly into the subterranean freeway.
That road is no longer in use, but could be reactivated if they decide to do so, with minimal cost. It's located near Brooks Lake.

9. Q -- Are there any 'bases' in the state of Utah? Have you heard anything about an alleged underground installation within the Wasatch Mountains...?

A -- Salt Lake, Lake Powell Area, Dark Canyon, Dougway Grounds, Modena, Vernal. All have exits there. Others too.

10. Q -- Does the Mt. Archuleta shuttle system connect with a shuttle system which allegedly radiates from Mt. Shasta in northern California?

A -- Yes. Mt. Shasta is a major site of Alien - Elder Race - Reptilian Race - Human meetings. Beginning Cleveland, Grover every president in U.S. history has visited Telos City. Truman was supposed to have visited the Lower Realms as a High Archon on Earth. He was supposed to have met the King of the World there, and gave him the Keys to the U.S.A. Truman received assurance to new high tech knowledge, and
victory over all enemies on Earth. He then was introduced to Samaza and Khoach, aliens from Bootes and Tiphon, both reptilian 'kings' or Ambassadors. Truman updated the 100 Treaty and requested magnetic advance, space knowledge and experiments. Khoach agreed, Samaza partially agreed. He exchanged hostages for genetic experiments and magnetic advance, but vetoed space and beam weaponry.

11. Q -- Did you notice any involvement of high-level Freemasons, Rosicrucian’s or Jesuits within the underground installation and/or with the aliens?

A - Yes I did, but that is a loaded question, and I won't comment further. I'm not a Mason, or member of any other secret fraternal group. There is one organization I am a member of. That group is commonly called the Central Unit. It is a pleasure to tell you that I am a member of the Sub-Galactic League of Costa Rica.

12. Q -- Is there any truth to the allegations that the CIA/Aliens have established 'bases' on the moon, and also Mars?

A -- I've heard that too, but I haven't seen proof with my own eyes. The 'aliens' do allegedly have bases on several moons of Jupiter and Saturn. The CIA operates in other countries, but I've never heard they operate on other planets.

13. Q -- Have you heard any hints or rumors suggesting that there may be lower levels beneath the ULTRA-7 level of the Dulce base, and also, where these might lead to and what they might consist of?

A -- YES. Your guess is as good as mine... Sure, there was lots of TALK but that doesn't mean it's there. However, I will tell you I saw elevators that were off limits unless you had an UMBRA or higher security clearance. At that base, information is supplied to me at a "need to know" basis ONLY! My clearance was ULTRA-7.

14. Q -- Some insist that the U.S./Secret government has developed it's own disk-craft based largely upon top secret antigravity experiments carried out by the Nazi-German scientists during World War II. Have you heard anything referring to this?

A -- When I was working in Photo-security, heard a lot of talk, never saw the proof, but once in the Air Force I developed a roll of film that showed a craft like Adamski’s, with a swastika on the side.

15. Q -- Tom, did you have access to the alien craft? Were you ever inside any of them?

A -- Yes, I frequently saw them in the garages, there are quite a few of them. The main fleet is stored at Los Alamos. Yes, I entered several crafts. There were two things that stick in my mind, the odd spongy feeling of the floors, and the unusual pinkish purple color of the lighting. The crew stated the floor becomes ridged in flight, and the purple tint of the lighting changes to bright blue white. The entire
inside of the air craft are scaled down in size, when compared to the average human. The halls were curved and narrow, but some how, when inside it appears bigger than it looks. Certain areas, the outermost sections, almost felt and looked alive. I was never taken up in one.

16. Q -- Can you give me more information on the reptilian race, what do they do on the sixth level?

A -- The worker caste does the daily chores, mopping the latex floors, cleaning the cages, bringing food to the hungry people and other species. It is their job to formulate the proper mixture for the type one and type two beings that the Draco Race has created. The working caste work at the labs as well as at the computer banks. Basically speaking, the reptilian races are active at all levels of the Dulce
Base. There are several different races of aliens that work on the east section of level six. That section is commonly called the alien section. The Draco is the undisputed master of the 5-6-7 levels. The humans are second in command of those levels. I had to argue with one large Draconian boss frequently. His name is difficult to verbalize, Khaarshfashst (pronounced throaty kkhhah-sshh-fahsh-sst). I usually
called him 'Karsh,' and he hated it.

The Draconian leaders are very formal when talking to the human race. These ancient beings consider us a lower race. Karsh called me "Leader Castello," but it was used in a sarcastically way. However the worker caste is friendly enough, as long as you allow them to speak first. They will answer if you address them. They are very cautious beings, and consider most humans to be hostile. They always seem surprised when they found many of the humans were open and trustworthy. There is no fraternizing with the aliens off hours. It is forbidden to speak to any alien race without a clear business oriented reason. Humans can talk to humans, and aliens can speak to aliens, but that is as far as it goes.

At the work site, however, it's different. There is free speech in the labs. The camaraderie found in the labs also reaches the computer banks section. In those areas, everybody talks to anybody. However, everything changes the minute you cross the threshold of the hall. Instantly, all conversations become strictly formal. Hard as it was, several times I had to arrest some one, simply because they spoke to an alien. It's a strange place.

17. Q -- Exactly what first made you aware that something was wrong at Dulce? Seems to me that a place as obviously horrible as this one wouldn't need an Einstein to know that this is a crime site! What took you so long? Are you the guy who blew the whistle?

A -- There are several things you should know about. I took an oath, under the penalty of death, that no matter what I saw or heard I would never divulge the information. Also, I signed a waiver that states I would willingly give up my life if I were found guilty of treason. At the Dulce Base treason is "anything that mentions the details of daily operations at this facility, when outside the confinement of this base."
When I first arrived, a "need to know" policy was in effect. The story the 'honchos' told us was that "this is a Tri-Biotransfer Facility with Advanced Technology, doing advanced adventurous methodology for medical and mental gains." Which is a fancy way of saying they do really risky things with human life just to see what would happen. If a medical cure happens, it will be heralded on the surface of the earth as a marvelous new cure, saying it was found after years of research at some well known medical lab. The real story of the cure is never explained. After all, the Dulce Base IS A secret facility! These people are very good at what they do. They do not tell the truth about the unfortunate people that end up in "Nightmare Hall."

I worked with aliens. With that in mind, you should get the idea of the secrecy and the security at that place. Yes, I know this was not the usual hospital type job site, but in the beginning I 'bought' the whole package. I was reminded daily by intercom, in the elevators, that "this site does high risk advanced medical and drug testing to cure insanity, please, never speak to the inmates, it can destroy years of work." I'm
sensible, when doctors say don't speak to them, who was I to destroy the delicate situation? But one man some how caught my eye. He repeatedly stated that he was George S---- and that he had been kidnapped and he was sure someone was searching for him. I don't know why he sticks in my mind, I found I was remembering his face, thinking he sure didn't look or sound insane, but many inmates said that. The next weekend I convinced a friend of mine, a cop, to run a check on the guy, saying I had a run in with him and was curious. I didn't mention the base at all.
It was a sickening feeling when the computer confirmed that George S. was missing. What's worse, the cops thought he was just another guy that got tired of the daily grind and split.

That was the beginning. Am I the one that blew the whistle? No. The next Monday, I searched for George, but he was gone. There were no records that explained what happened to him. It was another security officer that came to me saying he and some lab workers wanted an off duty meeting at one of the tunnels. Curiosity took over and I said OK. That night, about nine men showed up. They said they knew they were risking me turning them in but they wanted to show me some things they thought I should see. One by one they showed records that proved many inmates were missing people. There were newspaper clippings, and even photos that they had some how smuggled into the base. They hoped to smuggle them back out, without me turning them in to head honchos. I could see the fear in their faces as they spoke. One man stated he would rather lose his life by trying, than to lose his soul by not doing anything at all.
It was that remark that turned the tide. I told them about George and the things I found out about him. After a few hours we pledged to attempt to expose the Dulce Base.

18. Q -- The name Nightmare Hall is descriptive, but surely there was a 'regular' name, what was it called in the manuals?

A -- In the manuals it was called "The Vivarium". It describes Dulce Base as a "secured facility for tending bio-forms of all types." In their report it is retold as "a private subterranean bio-terminal park, with accommodations for animals, fish, fowl, reptile, and mankind."
After seeing this park the name Nightmare Hall is far more accurate than the manual. The accommodations for the inmates at Nightmare Hall fall short of the pretty picture the manual describes.

19. Q -- You mentioned one reptilian leader, Khaarshfashst, do you know any thing about him, like where is he from? Is he from Earth or some other planet?

A -- His name means "keeper of the laws". They receive their name after they reach the age of awareness. They do not recognize time as an important factor in being aware the way humans do. Upon their age of awareness they are cognitive of the station or position they are destined to fulfill. At that time they chose or allow someone to choose their name. Their name will include the position they hold and several personally chosen letters. Each letter has a personal meaning, known
only to the alien and the one that chose their name. Since Karsh's name means keeper of the laws his name includes kaash (memory or keep, base word for 'Akashic' record) and fashst (law, base word fast or bind). Reptilians choose to be not only private but also secretive of the location of their natal place. To them birth, or emergence of life, is considered as one of the sacred rites of life. They consider Earth or Terra their "home planet", but several reptoids discuss several star maps. Most of those stars were within the Milky Way. Within those star maps lies the
stars and planets of the Planets of the Allegiance. Earth being one of the planets in their trade routes. If any human asked clear questions about the Allegiance, the Aliens referred the questions to the Draco.
The Draco in turn, referred the questions to their supervisor (me). I did not have that information about the stars, because information was supplied on a "need to know" basis. I didn't 'need' that information.

20. Q -- Did any of the working caste join in the revolt? Could you give me some names?

A -- A few of the reptilian janitorial crew let us know that THEY knew WE were attempting to sabotage the work going on in the sixth and seventh levels. One of them, with the name Schhaal, secretly formed a small group of reptoids with the same mind set as my group. Sshhaal took upon himself the danger of informing me. He was as open as is possible in a unique situation. On the day I found out about it, I was inspecting a camera near an exit tunnel. He approached, stooped down, seemingly scraping some non-existent dirt, and he quietly said, "A few of us agreed that you are singular in your interest in missing-human reports. If true, walk away. I'll reach you. If it's untrue, destroy my life now!" My heart almost leaped out of my chest, but I silently walked toward one of the wide halls.

For the rest of my life I'll remember those words! It was the first time I KNEW reptilians could have individual thoughts and opinions! Basically, they formed a uniform front with a small variety of interests. Or at least, that was what we had thought. It was a couple days before I heard from him again. As he walked beside me in the sixth level's infamous hall, I heard him say "Enter the exit tunnel on the sixth level, north, after your shift." The next few hours were long and filled with thoughts of betrayal, or worse, but I shouldn't have worried. I contacted one of the original nine men, and let him know, just in case. Gordon wanted to go with me, but I cpnvinced him to wait a few feet from the exit and pretend he was having trouble with his cart.
When I got there, there were three of them. Shhhaal formerly introduced Fahsshhaa and Huamsshhaa (name base word is Sshhaa or assist). With that, I quickly grabbed Gordon from the hall and the five of us talked and walked in the dark tunnels about three hours. After that day, the joined resistance group got bigger and bolder.

Ultimately, it ended when a military assault was initiated via the exit tunnels and they executed anybody on their list, human or reptilian. We fought back, but none of the working caste had weapons, nor did the human lab workers. Only the security force and a few computer workers had flash guns. It was a massacre. Every one was screaming and running for cover. The halls and tunnels were filled as full as possible. We believe it was the Delta Force that chose to hit at shift change, an effort that killed as many as named on their list. We, to this day, do not know who betrayed us. Gordon Ennery ran beside me as we ran into the third level exit tunnels, and he died when several bullets slammed into his back. I vaporized that assassin and kept running. And I'm still running. Gordon will be remembered.

21. Q -- Tell me more about the flash gun. Is it difficult to operate, or is it like the weapon on Star Trek that can stun or kill on different modes?

A -- It is an advanced beam weapon that can operate on three different phases. Phase one, like Star Trek, can stun and maybe kill, if the person has a weak heart. On phase two, it can levitate anything no matter what it weighs. Phase three is the serious business mode. It can be used to paralyze anything that lives, animal, human, alien and plant. On the higher position on the same mode, it can create a temporary death. I assure you, any doctor would certify that person is dead, but
their life essence lingers in some strange limbo, some kind of terrible state of non-death. In one to five hours the person will revive, slowly; first the bodily functions will begin, and in a few minutes, consciousness followed with full awareness.

In that mode the alien scientists re-program the human brain and plant false information. When the person awakes, he 'recalls' the false information as information he gained through life experience. There is no way for a person to learn the truth. The human mind 'remembers' and believes completely the false data. If you attempt to inform them, they would laugh or get angry. They NEVER believe the truth. Their mind always forgets the experience of re-programming. You asked if the flash gun is difficult to operate. A two year old child could use it with one hand. It resembles a flash light, with black glass conical inverted lens. On the side are three recessed knobs in three curved grooves. Each knob is sized differently. The closer the knob to the hand the less the strength. It's that simple. Each knob has three strengths also, with automatic stops at each position. The strongest position will vaporize any thing that lives. That mode is so powerful it will leave NO TRACE of what it vaporized.

22. Q -- Is the weapon called a Flash Gun or is there a different name in the manuals?

A -- Everybody calls them Flash Guns, or more commonly "The Flash" or "my Flash" when talking about it. In the manual it is first introduced as the Armorlux Weapon. After that, it is explained as the Flash Gun.

23. Q -- What type of security is found at the Dulce Base? What else is used against espionage or unauthorized entry?

A -- I'll mention a few, but it would be nearly impossible to cover it all. The weapon, besides the Flash Gun, mostly used is a form of sonic. Built in with each light fixture is a device that could render a man unconscious in seconds with nothing more than a silent tone. At Dulce there also are still and VCR cameras, eye print, hand print stations, weight monitors, lasers, ELF and EM equipment, heat sensors and motion
detectors and quite a few other methods. There is no way you could get very far into the base. If you made it to the second level, you would be spotted within fifteen feet. More than likely, you would become an inmate and never see the light of the surface world again. If you were 'lucky', you would be re-programmed and become one of the countless spies for the Ruling Caste.

24. Q -- According to certain reports, the Dulce Base is host to other aliens that live in level five. Is that true? Can the humans freely roam or meet one-to-one in the halls or is some type of protocol in effect?

A -- There is protocol from the first time you enter the base and it must be followed every time you see an alien. From the working caste, to the visiting aliens, to the Ruling Caste, there is a never ending check list of rules, law, and strict protocol. There is never a chance to roam on the fifth level. The alien housing area is off limits
to any human. The Hub is surrounded by security, arsenal, military and CIA\FBI sections. The area past the security is one of the most secured areas because it houses so many classified files. The entire east side of the fifth level is off limits except for security personnel holding ULTRA-7 security clearance or higher. The garage on the west side of the fifth level requires ULTRA-4 clearance.

25. Q -- What about the elevators, do they drop from the surface to the seventh level in a couple of seconds? Do you know anything about them? Are they electrically lifted? Every where on the surface world there are elevators made by Otis Elevator Company. Does that company make the elevators at Dulce?

A -- I failed to notice what brand was available in the elevators at the base. I could tell you that there is no elevator anywhere at Dulce that drops from the surface to the seventh level. The security blue prints show the levels are 'stepped' down. Each level drops one floor only. Not even the Hub has an express elevator. After the third level, not only would you change elevators, you are weighed and color coded, before you re-enter the car. All the elevators are magnetically controlled, even lights in elevators, as well as all lights on all levels are magnetically induced. The light bulbs are not the type bought on the surface, but a totally different type of light system. The illumination found there is a closer match to natural sunlight than any artificial
light on the surface world. The shape of the elevators is unique. If you have ever seen a Tupperware sugar bowl, you could see the shape copied in the elevator. Sort of like an open ended oval with another half oval on each side. The elevator shaft matches the shape perfectly. The magnetic controls are in the half oval shape. If you could stand in or close to the half ovals, you would feel the slight pull of the power of those magnets. The motion is smooth and silent, there is a nearly unnoticed surge when the motion starts or stops. There are no cables needed, because the lift is magnetic, not electric.

26. Q -- A mysterious security man calling himself agent Yellow Fruit says he worked at Groom Lake (Area 51). The Security Officer states that he's been in contact with benevolent aliens, at the Groom Lake facility, are you aware of such a group?

A -- Yellow Fruit is one of the slang names for Yellow Jack, or Yellow Flag, that shows quarantine and caution in the labs. There are so many different slang names at Dulce labs that meant quarantine that the workers published a booklet to show the meanings. At Dulce, Yellowfruit are the lab workers. Banana is the older worker, lemon is the new guy and so on.

27. Q -- Is there an alien installation under Groom Lake or Papoose Lake at the Nevada Test Site, and are they conducting biological research at these sites?

A -- Most of the stuff at the Groom facility deals with defense, but there is a large storage area in the tunnels that holds thousands of alien craft parts. From what I have heard, the medical tests at the Nevada Test Site is conducted by and for the Navy.

28. Q -- According to my sources, the Aerospace companies have a secret underground installation in the Tehachapi Mountains, not far from Rosamond near Edwards AFB. Insiders refer to the Tahachapi Installment as the Ant Hill. They are experimenting with advanced technology such as antigravity disks. Some have seen basketball sized floating orbs patrol the facility, do you have any further information on this?

A -- The California mountains all have alien security methods and equipment. The basketball size orbs are used for unmanned patrol. They are silent, but when photographing living beings there is a humming sound. The glow that emits light is magnetic aura. This is in the visible spectrum, 3900 angstroms. You can see the light, but the light does not reflect off any thing.

29. Q -- How do the aliens use magnetism? Do they use it as an energy source? Is there more we need to know about magnetism?

A -- The aliens use magnetics for everything! They use magnetics as the basic structure for their energy source. The more you learn about magnetic, the better. The Human Race calls them magnets, the Aliens call them 'lodestar'. They have been harvesting lodestars for centuries. Not only that, they want ALL the magnetic power on Earth. They intend to continue harvesting that power, now and in the future. As long as we were only using magnetic power as an oddity, there was no problem. But
in recent times, the human race has begun using magnetic power and finding more ways to utilize that commodity.

There was a treaty made. In the original treaty, the human race didn't mind at all, 'we' considered magnets as hardly more than useless. As people searched for another source for power, we turned to magnetics. The aliens wanted a new treaty. What could we offer? They chose land, underground mining rights, animals and humans for new experiments. The general public never knew about the treaty. The governmental heads of the world chose another treaty in 1933. This time we got high-tech knowledge in exchange. So now, the more we use magnetics, the more they claim humans, and the lands of the U.S.A. We were 'sold' in exchange for magnets. If you doubt it, look around, there are token companies that really utilize magnetic power, but are depending on electric based or ceramic magnets, NOT lodestar based magnets.

30. Q -- What do the aliens do with the cow blood and other parts from mutilated animals? Do they need these fluids for research or survival?

A -- The aliens use the blood and body parts for formula to keep them alive and for use in the growing vats, and for the artificial wombs. Plasma and amniotic fluid are the two most vital ingredients for their lives. Also, the 'sap' of some plants can keep them alive for months.
Most of the plants are parasitic in nature, but red grapes and okra plants can also be added to the formula to keep them alive, if they have no 'regular' formula.

31. Q -- Female abductees report being inseminated by aliens. Are they trying to hybridize our species?

A -- Yes, they are breeding slave-warriors for the upcoming war with the alien races. The serpentine races are in orbit around Earth, Venus and Mars.

32. Q -- Abductees have reported that the aliens can pass their bodies and that of the abductee through window glass. Is this a feat of magic achieved by advanced technology or is it a psychic power?

A -- The aliens have mastered atomic matter. They can go through walls like we go through water. It is not magic, just physics. We can learn to do the same thing. It has to do with controlling atoms at will.

33. Q -- Are you in communication with benevolent aliens or do you have contacts that are? If you are, can you tell us how we can communicate with their teams?

A -- I am not at liberty to discuss communications with any friendly alien life forms. I can tell you there is a friendly factor active in Costa Rica, I am in direct communication with that factor. I am an active member of the Sub-Galactic League of Costa Rica. This organization, using a small satellite dish, a television set and ham
radio equipment reached this factor. I might suggest that by using similar equipment and a low band frequency, you may reach the same factor.

34. Q -- Do you stay in the U.S.A., or do you live abroad? Do you work now? I know you have been on the run for several years.

A -- Yeah, quite a few years. I visit the U.S., but it's really dangerous when I do. I've lived in several countries. I spent a few years in Mexico, working as a mercenary soldier. It's rough work, frequently living in the bush, eating what ever I can find. I spent time in South America, fighting the drug cartel. I settled in Costa Rica,
bought a small house in Limon. Actually it is a shanty that some one abandoned. I paid the equivalency of $11 to one of the local constables for the right to call it mine. My name changes when I think some one is asking questions. I've worked in one of the underground bases near the Panama border. It's in the mountains, not very far from a passive but active volcano. It is not as fancy as Dulce, but the people are wonderful.

35. Q -- Are there any other security level names?

A -- There are many other security clearances, here are a few, UMBRA, STELLAR, G2-7Z, TRIAD, UMT (Universal Military Training) and UMS (Universal Military Service), ASTRAL and SUB-ASTRAL. UMBRA is higher than ULTRA.

36. Q -- Since you have lived in Spanish speaking countries, it's obvious that you are bilingual. What other languages do you speak?

A -- Other than English, the only other languages I speak are Spanish and Eusshu, the common language spoken at Dulce. I speak Spanish fluently, and enough Eusshu to keep my self out of trouble. Shortly after I first transferred to Dulce, I took a course to learn the basics. Other wise, you are required to wait for an escort to get around. All the signs at that base are written in the universally recognized symbolic language. Eusshu is logical and easy to learn. Crash course in Eusshu are required if one that plans to spend more than one week working at that base.

37. Q -- What are the eating habits of the aliens? Are they carnivores?

A -- That depends weather they are one of the gray worker caste, one of the reptilian worker caste, or one of the higher developed Draconian Leaders. Also, the created beings, replicants, type two being, or one of the really strange genetic mixtures. I'll try to cover a little of each.
The formula includes amniotic water, plasma and several other body parts. This nearly clear mixture with a texture of pureed peaches, and almost in that color. The grays make the attempt not to 'eat' around the humans, because the odor of it is very unpleasant to any human. They can spend days or even weeks between feedings. The working caste of the reptilians eat meat, insects and a large variety of plants including vegetables and fruit. They prefer their meat raw and very fresh, but
have learned to enjoy some cooked meat like rare beef steak. Unlike the Grays, they eat frequently and usually carry or send for food on their breaks.

The Ruling Caste is SECRETIVE about their foods. They have created several dietary myths that they carefully embellish when the chance arrives. One of their favorite legends involves one of their ancestors' ability to eat an entire flock of geese in one setting. They rarely eat in sight of any other species. They carefully choose their food, then carry their meal to their quarters. It was only when dignitaries arrive
at the base did they join their meals. They enjoy the same foods we do, and they have been seen secretly munching on a freshly found snail. The human looking replicants eat some cooked vegetables. They rely on vitamins and liquid protein for sustenance. If they have to eat on the surface world, they can eat what ever they are served, but as soon as possible they regurgitate. Their digestive systems frequently fail to process the food properly. The engineered beings have a special diet, created for their dietary needs. The mixture includes several organ foods blended with plasmatic fluids, amniotic liquids and parasitiplasm materials. These unique animals also enjoy occasional green plants, usually grasses or lettuce. The creatures that are designed to become warriors, eat protein filled liquids.

38. Q -- In the Dulce Papers, copper seems to be high on the importance list. In what methods is copper used?

A -- One of the main uses of copper at Dulce is containment of the magnetic flow, magnets are used every where at that base. The infamous vats' interiors are lined with copper, and the exterior walls are clad with stainless steel. The mechanical arm that stirs the liquid is made of a copper alloy. Other uses include dietary needs in a few of the transbiotic beings. There are several specially made cells or rooms
built first with lead, then magnetic steel then clad in copper. It is in those cells on the Fourth Level that contain living aural essence. This essence is what you would call soul or astral body.

39. Q -- Growing multi-species beings, blood formulas and human parts in vats sounds like a bad plot to a science fiction movie. The doctors and scientists of the world claim you can't mix the species. The concepts mentioned in the Dulce Papers sounds far fetched. Could you provide information that the average surface world reader could understand about similar things?

A -- The doctors and scientists on the surface world may say that, but underground, away from the prying eyes of ethics boards, they do grow trans-genus beings. There is a lot of written material available at libraries. One of the best sources is an easy to read book published back in 1969, by Prentice-Hall International, with the title of "The Second Genesis, the Coming Control of Life" by Albert Rosenfelt. In this book, they discuss "… animals that may be especially bred to supply genetically reliable organs for people." -- and "...the use of fetal or embryonic material from which adult sized organs and tissues may be grown..." Also he discusses the fact that embryonic tissue has no immunological activity, therefore it cannot provoke the defense mechanism in the recipient. It will join the body not as a foreign antigen, but as a natural protein. He further discusses solitary generation, commonly called virgin birth, but also known as parthenogenesis.

With one virgin birth in 1.6 million births average on the surface of the world, in Dulce that rate is reversed. Occasionally, a normally born human infant is born in the hospital wards on the Seventh Level.
Parthenogenesis is the method used to grow type two beings. The now common transsexual surgery on the surface world, began at the Dulce Base. Men became women on a whim in the Seventh Level labs, and with the Fourth Level technology, the brain washing the "eager desire to become a woman" and that poor man firmly believe he always wanted to be a woman. No one could convince him to believe the truth. All things are twisted At Dulce.
A quote by Dr. Ralph W. Gerard (in The Second Genesis) put in his now classic statement: "There can be no twisted thought without a twisted molecule". Most have originated at Dulce.

40. Q -- How are the human workers stopped from telling everything about Dulce?

A -- Implants, fear threats to harm the families, EM control, also reprogramming with ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) and drugs are the most common methods to 'encourage' the workers not to divulge the location or daily routine.

41. Q -- A construction worker the so called "The Ant Hill" (The Northrup's Tehachapi Base) reports seeing 10-12 foot tall human looking beings in lab coats. Who are these guys, are they from the hollow earth?

A. They are probably inner earth drones. The deeper you get, the stranger the life forms. The tall men are from the subterranean levels, lower yet are the dwarfed deformed forms. I don't trust either of them.
There are other forms, that both the tall men and the dwarfed men fear and loathe, they are similar to Bigfoot in appearance, but extremely violent and enjoy eating what ever they find while it is still alive!
They are subhuman and demented, with an IQ around 15. The reptilian life stay in caves or caverns that aren't very deep. They prefer the desert mountains. They use camouflage rather than fighting, but they do carry vril rods for protection. They do have a symbol, not the hokey snake-with-wings that I keep seeing in the public. The reptilians use a dragon with its tail in its mouth with seven pointed stars in the middle.

42. Q -- Is there a specific location where the public can set up their cameras and equipment to document an alien-government base, and/or their activities?

A -- The problem is, most of the meetings are held in military bases or underground. The Groom Lake Facility does fly several alien craft that regularly fly over unpopulated land that go back and forth from several bases, Southern California has several notable areas. Twenty Nine Palms -- Lancaster or Chocolate Mountains are well known for such activities.

43. Q -- Could you provide us with a copy of your badge or card you used at Dulce?

A -- Badges or cards never leave the bases. All exits have bars or walls of metal... to open, to go out requires using the card. When you use it for an exit slot, the card won't come out. Each time you leave the base, you are issued a new card, with all the usual data about you, plus your weight added, corrected daily. There are several mines in the Chocolate Mts. that open into a base highway, but be aware that they are patrolled regularly and there are cameras there.

44. Q -- What are the dimensions of the Dulce Facility?

A -- There are 1,700 paved miles of roads under Dulce and Northern New Mexico, towards Los Alamos is another 800 miles of tunnels. The base is Still expanding.

45. Q -- What is the top depth?

A -- The First Level starts 200 feet from the surface. Each level has a ceiling of seven feet, except levels six and seven, the ceiling there is 45 and 60 feet. There are approximately 45 feet or more between each level. The average highway ceiling is twenty five feet. The HUB at the base is 3,000 feet wide. Use a 7.5 minute scale map to try to comprehend the size of the place.

46. Q -- Are there regular vehicle exits that can be observed from the ground?

A -- Yes, but they are inside Los Alamos.

47. Q -- Are their aerial exits that can be observed?

A -- Twenty miles due north of Dulce is a large hanger, it is hidden by a facade of cliffs. Look for an isolated short road on the top of a mesa, with no road to or from the top.

48. Q -- Are the ventilation shafts visible?

A -- The ventilation shafts are hidden by bushes or vents inside caves. There are five on the top of the mesa, be aware there are cameras inside most of the vents.

49. Q -- Is there external security, and could we recognize them in or around the town itself?

A -- There is minimal security on the surface, most of the men are Air Force or highway crewmen. There used to be a Best Western motel that hosts or hires a lot of Base workers from Level One. I don't know if that motel is still operational. Most of the security force live in Santa Fe. Others live at White Pine (near Los Alamos).

50. Q -- Are there security sensors? What type? If so, what is their power source?

A -- Yes there are many types of sensors, radar, infrared, heat sensors, microwave, EMGW, and satellite. Most of the sensors are powered by magnetic power. The only thing you may notice on the surface, would be an occasional satellite dish.

51. Q -- If you can, give us some information on the upcoming war with the aliens. When does it start? Do you recommend going underground?

A -- The war has already begun. To start, they use weather control devices that can cripple a city in hours. Storms, flood and drought -- with those few things they can bring any country to their knees in a hurry. Yes, I do recommend going underground. Choose a location that has a higher elevation than the surrounding terrain. Pick out a cave or even an abandoned mining shaft or two, bury a cache of supplies near these locations. Place the supplies in heavy plastic boxes that have tight lids. Then plan to live like a squatter when it becomes necessary. If you own land, create a system of tunnels and tell no one. Use your tunnels to secrete your supplies, and plan to live in those corridors when you must.

52. Q -- What about the reptilian ships that are in orbit around the equator, are they cloaked?

A -- They are not cloaked the way you may think. It's more like nobody is learning to see, even though it is in plain sight. Like the mail man becomes invisible because you are so used to seeing him you never noticed he is alive. One of the favorite methods of covert activities is to hide their operation in such an obvious way that no one would suspect it is covert.

53. Q -- What are the Greys susceptible to?

A -- The greys are photosensitive, any bright light hurts their eyes. They avoid sunlight, and travel at night. Camera flashes causes them to back up. It could be used as a weapon against them, but they recover quickly. It could buy enough time to escape. Use commands, or nonsensical words in the form of commands and they will back up. Their brain is more logical than ours and they do not create 'fun'. They do not understand poetry either. What really confuses them is saying things in "pig-latin". We learned that in a hurry, and used it against them in the Dulce Wars.

54. Q -- Can greys read your intentions if you came up behind one?

A -- Yes. They read your intent, because they use your body's frequency. The human race broadcasts a frequency, that they recognize as an electromagnetic impulse. Each person has a slightly different frequency, that difference is what we call personality. When a human thinks, they broadcast strong impulses, in the case of fear the frequency is 'loud' and easy to recognize.

55. Q -- Can we shield ourselves against their mental control?

A -- We can shield ourselves against them, however 95% of the human race never try to control their thoughts, and controlling our own thoughts is the best weapon. The average person rarely thinks in a clear pattern. That allows the brain to think in a chaotic way. Control your thoughts, And you can stop the aliens attempting to abduct and control you. Controlling my own thoughts have kept me alive for years.

56. Q -- Could you shed some light on the type of human the aliens are looking for when they abduct?

A -- I can tell you that the most common are petite women in their early twenties or early thirties, dark haired boys between five to nine, small to medium size men in their mid-twenties to mid-forties. But, let me stress that there are all types of people being held against their will in the Dulce Base! There are tall heavy men and women, teenagers, elderly folks and very young girls in the cages AND the vats. I only mention the most common age-size are the small young men and petite women. The boys are favored because at that age their bodies are rapidly growing, and their atomic material is adaptable in the transfer chamber. The young small women are frequently very fertile. The men are used for sperm. I have no idea why they prefer small to average size men.

57. Q -- What is the prevalent human race at the Dulce Base? I am curious about both the human workers, and the inmates.

A -- The human work force is made of people from every nation on the surface world. The one thing they share is that they all speak English. If you are asking if there are white, black, red, yellow and brown skin color, again I'll have to say that there is no 'prevalent' race there. As for inmates, I could see ALL races there. From what I could see, it looked like there were more 'white' people, but again, I saw a constant flow of different people, many I think, were only there for a few hours.

58. Q -- Please explain the method they use to identify each inmate.

A -- No one has a name. When first brought to this facility, they were issued one large 'number'. Usually that code has a mixture of numbers and letters. They show the place, how, and by who, followed by the time, age, sex and finally the personal number. For example it might look like this: NVLV-00A-00700-P00:00:00-00-M-000-00-000.

59. Q -- You have been through so much, and yet keep fighting, what is your
biggest fear?

A – My biggest fear: the general public will forget the trapped innocent people in that despicable place, and will ignore the hundreds of children, women and men added to that place every month.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

From Cherrys notes:
"... it looks like an endless corridor, but near the Dulce Base Seventh Level Hub, there is wide doorway on the right, if you look into the room you can see a double row of cells of caged people. Each upper cell holds one man, one bunk and a toilet and sink. But the lower cells hold grotesque beings, maybe human, but so deformed that you must use your imagination to make out a face or maybe feet....."
in a letter from Tom Castello in 1987

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Another part of one of Cherry's letters
"... the living beings inside the unidentified flying objects are NOT coming to interact with human beings - they are visiting the intelligent reptilian race living inside the caverns of Terra." (Earth)
...

"Since 1947 there has been scheduled routes of intergalactic trade - but the trades are not between the human race and the visiting advanced alien race - the exchange of goods and technology is between the visitors and the reptilian race living deep inside the caverns of Earth.

The human race are not advanced enough to trade technology with an ancient race that are thousands of years ahead with us. We can't even leave Earth unless we use fuel based rockets to blast the craft of the surface. The visitors travel between planets in silent ships that move faster than light. They consider humans primitive and violent beings. It is like us trying to communicate with ants, we have nothing in common."

from letters from Tom Castello, 1989

[witchy1]

“Most little grays are emotionless. They don’t care if you step on their foot, pain doesn’t bother them. They might just look down at its foot, but shows no reaction. The only way to create confusion is to give them a nonsensical order. It causes them to back up and try to re-evaluate the order. For example if a gray is about to abduct you, use a calm but stern voice and tell them to “go drink chairs” or “dance on my bed” or “eat this shoe,” say nothing logical.

Other tricks to stop them start reciting a nursery poem – like “Mary had a little lamb.”
Physical things to stop them is a camera flash – the brilliant light damages their eyes, and they can’t see, it could give you time to escape.“ From a letter dates 1984.

[witchy1]

I think this is the last post - for those who made it this far. Thank you so very much reading - W

“It was only a few months before I left Dulce Base when I asked a very burly but friendly repton guard if he prayed. His face remained calm but his golden eyes widened a little. Slowly he sighed from deep inside his barrel chest. His deep raspy voice sounded fatigued and old. I admit his surprising reply left me shaken.

‘Tom, most sapient beings gave up on that superstitious rite. I know that prayer remains the human way. Tell me the truth, don’t you find those prayers a mere waste of your words? Here on the sixth level, the humans ask their god for help, and utter many prayers. It didn’t help them. In Dulce Base, no form of help arrives for them, not once did their cell locks open for them. Not once did I witnessed any form of help from the hand of god, not even a way to escape their Fate.’

I was glad when the sets of three chimes started to sound I knew it was shift change, and I didn’t need to talk complete this conversation. I simply muttered a few empty words and left. At that late hour - it must have been close to midnight, I had a need to enter my office, lock the metal door and offer a prayer for the lost inmates in Dulce Base.”

[Bill Ryan]

I think this is the last post - for those who made it this far. Thank you so very much reading - W

Many thanks for relaying all this information.

W, is this the 'last post' because there's no more material? Or is there any other reason?

[Beren]

I think this is the last post - for those who made it this far. Thank you so very much reading - W

“It was only a few months before I left Dulce Base when I asked a very burly but friendly repton guard if he prayed. His face remained calm but his golden eyes widened a little. Slowly he sighed from deep inside his barrel chest. His deep raspy voice sounded fatigued and old. I admit his surprising reply left me shaken.

‘Tom, most sapient beings gave up on that superstitious rite. I know that prayer remains the human way. Tell me the truth, don’t you find those prayers a mere waste of your words? Here on the sixth level, the humans ask their god for help, and utter many prayers. It didn’t help them. In Dulce Base, no form of help arrives for them, not once did their cell locks open for them. Not once did I witnessed any form of help from the hand of god, not even a way to escape their Fate.’

I was glad when the sets of three chimes started to sound I knew it was shift change, and I didn’t need to talk complete this conversation. I simply muttered a few empty words and left. At that late hour - it must have been close to midnight, I had a need to enter my office, lock the metal door and offer a prayer for the lost inmates in Dulce Base.”

There is no explanation for ones that do not want one.
Regarding those souls trapped there... God only know why and when .
In the highest way of the meaning.

Souls that became reps are the ones abandoning the source of light and life and love . Look in what they turned into.
Religion today-all of them are reps way of taking people away from prime source.
Sad are they ,really, despite gruesome life and tech that they have.

It takes a leap of faith to return to prime source (God ,Creator) ,it is acknowledging and re union with the source.
They wish not that and wish to drag all down with them...

I felt sad reading this last post ...sad that they chose what they chose. From their view there is no god as they abandoned it . Sadly they miss the obvious thing that the very body they inhabit is made from atoms and molecules which is created by Prime source-Creator.
In negating God they negate themselves and look in what they turned into...
And they will degrade even more, until they devolve into dust,a cosmic dust if you will.

Sad but true.
But it is their choice.

I would love to see that we as humanity choose different path than reps and all aligned with them.

[lightblue]

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is a repton's essence the same as ours is? do they have souls? can our souls in other life inhabit a repton...i don't find clarity on that detail anywhere... thanks l


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The human race are not advanced enough to trade technology with an ancient race that are thousands of years ahead with us. We can't even leave Earth unless we use fuel based rockets to blast the craft of the surface. The visitors travel between planets in silent ships that move faster than light. They consider humans primitive and violent beings. It is like us trying to communicate with ants, we have nothing in common."

i find it a starnge observation..so, according to this, our et visitors find us too promitive/violent, but they don't find the violece perpetuated by the reptons abhorent....it's as if there's good and bad violence...wonder what makes their violence justifiable, i.e. worthy of trade and communications ?


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[witchy1]

W, is this the 'last post' because there's no more material? Or is there any other reason?

No there is more, but understand that some is being held back to be released in the book(s). If there is anything specific, happy to go back and ask any questions anyone may have.

[witchy1]

Beren, I feel your pain

[witchy1]

is the repton's essenns the same as ours is? do they have souls? can our souls in other life inhabit a repton...i don't find clarity on that detail anywhere... thanks l

Hi Lightblue. It doesnt sound like they have souls does it (well my interpretation of soul) Dont know if they believe in reincarnation either. Happy to go back to Cherry with your questions. I do wonder what their life span is????and what is the estimated population of the varying races. Mind you there appears to be so many down there, who would know.

[lightblue]

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thanks witchy
please go back to my earlier post, i added another question to it... l


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[daledo]

Here is the interview voice simulation of Thomas Costello


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp5Dk5RSjjk

This is the first part of 10. You can go tyo that youtube page and see the others.
Sometimes my eyes get tired of reading lol

[witchy1]

i find it a starnge observation..so, according to this, our et visitors find us too promitive/violent, but they don't find the violece perpetuated by the reptons abhorent....it's as if there's good and bad violence...wonder what makes their violence justifiable, i.e. worthy of trade and communications ?

Oh Lightblue, I understand your question. It sounds like they just do what they want to do, and get on doing what they have always done, only barely tolerating our existence on their planet. Its just mind numbing that they can use us to create a hybrid race to fight on their behalf in a war against us. I wonder if this somehow falls into agenda 21 and depopulation.....They may be concerned about the sheer numbers of humans. Just thinking out loud.
I did read somewhere else (theres lots of info on them out there) that they are in trouble for interferring too much with humans and are due to be hauled into line. I wonder if this is the reason for all the activity in the sky??? Thinking out loud again.
No violence is justifiable! IMHO

[The One]

Not one for keeping a topic going but if this is going on at Dulce imagine what’s going on at all the other bases from around the world.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/offlimits/esp_offlimits_7.htm#Outside the USA

[Banshee]

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is a repton's essence the same as ours is? do they have souls? can our souls in other life inhabit a repton...i don't find clarity on that detail anywhere... thanks l


edit:

i find it a starnge observation..so, according to this, our et visitors find us too promitive/violent, but they don't find the violece perpetuated by the reptons abhorent....it's as if there's good and bad violence...wonder what makes their violence justifiable, i.e. worthy of trade and communications ? .

What emotions/empathy do humans feel when they buy a piece of flesh at the market ( pigs are highly intelligent, chickens can count, etc). Do you think about the conditions under which battery farms are operated when you sit down to a nice chicken korma? Seems like its the same thing here. We are just a commodity to be used, abused and traded.

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello,

If we are to them like ants are to us then why all the secrecy? Why do we need "treaties" for ("Truman updated the 100 Treaty and requested magnetic advance, space knowledge and experiments. Khoach agreed, Samaza partially agreed")? Why do they need our permission for? Why all the "negotiation for technology" and "magnetism"? What can we possible do to them? What do we have that prevents them from just taking what they want, without justification or permission? Why are they hiding? It seems to me they are afraid of something...

[Banshee]

Hello,

If we are to them like ants are to us then why all the secrecy? Why do we need "treaties" for ("Truman updated the 100 Treaty and requested magnetic advance, space knowledge and experiments. Khoach agreed, Samaza partially agreed")? Why do they need our permission for? Why all the "negotiation for technology" and "magnetism"? What can we possible do to them? What do we have that prevents them from just taking what they want, without justification or permission? Why are they hiding? It seems to me they are afraid of something...

Every one knows that the meat is sweeter if the animal is content. ( just a sarcastic comment - i have no idea :))

New random thought - they might want us to fight their war for them?

[lightblue]

banshee


What emotions/empathy do humans feel when they buy a piece of flesh at the market ( pigs are highly intelligent, chickens can count, etc). Do you think about the conditions under which battery farms are operated when you sit down to a nice chicken korma? Seems like its the same thing here. We are just a commodity to be used, abused and traded.

you have missed my point...i was not justifying violence on the part of humans ..i was drawing a parallel in fact, still not understanding why the et visitors may want to choose to keep in touch with the reptons and nt us..as if their violence is better..this is to paraphrase what my original question was..so please do not mis-paraphrase...i never said what you are implying...

please go back to the post to which i responded for clarity..

by the way, i do not sit down to chicken korma.. best wishes :) l

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[Banshee]

banshee

[SIZE="3"]you have missed my point...i was not justifying violence on the part of humans ..i was drawing a parallel in fact, still not understanding why the et visitors may want to choose to keep in touch with the reptons and nt us..as if their violence is better..this is to paraphrase what my original question was..so please do not mis-paraphrase...i never said what you are implying...

please go back to the post to which i responded for clarity..

by the way, i do not sit down to chicken korma.. best wishes :) l [/SIZE,

Light Blue,

Edit Edit Edit - You are right. I started writing my response before you edited yours. Tis the curse of cyberspace! I am sorry. I didn't see your complete thought. My response was really intended to be more global in nature ( not directed at you) My question should have been " does one think about battery farms....." not you. Poorly written.

oh - regarding your question about why the ET's would want to contact the Reptillians etc? Really good thought and my instant thought was because they are attempting to serve as diplomatic envoys - to prevent something. If the Reptillians are the "black hats" so to speak, they wouldn't waste their time with us? We're evil but not capable of much destruction on our own?

[Strat]

the lighting changes to bright blue white.

So thats where the HID headlights originated!

[Carmody]

chickens have korma?

Or do reps taste like chicken, since they are about everything?

[Banshee]

chickens have korma?

Or do reps taste like chicken, since they are about everything?

Only in their current lifetimes. Comes full circle .......

I think chicken probably tastes like reps :)

[Orion.V]

About the Reptons
DULCE BASE: THE REPTON


by -Cherry Hinkle- (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451) on Sunday, August 1, 2010 at 3:35pm


The female reptons tend to be from four and a half feet to seven feet tall. They could reach over seven feet, but a female at seven feet is considered exceptional. The males from five feet to eight feet and sometimes close to nine feet.

The females give birth to her offspring and suckles the child. Like human females, the golden face female repton can be feminine and shapely, and forward in her desires.

The male repton are strong and muscular with plate-like scales on their chest. The golden face male are drones and mostly wait for instructions from a Dracon leader before doing anything.

The leaders of the reptons are the beige or tan Dracon. They do not age the same as humans, they Dracon can not lead until they have gone through metamorphosis and develop wings. Few of them have working wings, most are more like wing like small appendages that resemble the wings of bats.

The reptons consider Earth their planet. They claim they were here before Adam & Eve arrived and there was a lot of them, not just two. (the bible DOES add credence to that, Genesis 5: 2, "Male and female created them and blessed them and called THEIR name Adam ...")

Speaking of Reptons / Reptoids / Reptilians , has any of you came in contact with this information ? >>> http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_lacerta_files.htm
This file describes a female reptoid being interviewed by a guy in Sweden.
I still haven't found any statements that lead to proving the credibility of this event, if any of you knows something please share.

[Dragonfly]

Hi! Yes, I have read it many years ago. I believe it is quite famous - Personally I feel it is a hoax, nevertheless it is worth reading, but as usual there is no hard evidence that this interview is true. Check the following page (2nd paragraph, 1st is Italian) - the author elaborates why he is convinced that the whole story is a fake. His argumentation lines are plausible for me.
http://www.francescograssi.com/adv/2004_07_06.htm

Kind regards, Dragonfly

[Orion.V]

Thank you very much for the info.

[Bill Ryan]

Hi! Yes, I have read it many years ago. I believe it is quite famous - Personally I feel it is a hoax, nevertheless it is worth reading, but as usual there is no hard evidence that this interview is true. Check the following page (2nd paragraph, 1st is Italian) - the author elaborates why he is convinced that the whole story is a fake. His argumentation lines are plausible for me.
http://www.francescograssi.com/adv/2004_07_06.htm

Kind regards, Dragonfly

I do agree with you (re the 'Lacerta' interview being a probable hoax):

http://luisprada.com/Protected/the_lacerta_files.htm

But yes, it's worth reading.

[lightblue]

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it's curious that gordon novel denies the existence of dulce base...any idea as to why would that be? thanks l


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[Ross]

I have always believed in underground activities including undersea...but if Costello's info is correct then...where does that leave us?

and again I say undersea (oceans) this is one area that really interests me...

Ross

[witchy1]

Reply from Cherry. She confirms certain information is being saved and a more in depth discussion is to be published in her book. She will answer your question tho

"First the age of the Reptons: They do not age the same as the human race. They live much longer. You will discover the reasons in my book.

As for their souls - yes, they do understand the concept of religion and the immortal soul. However, they are very secretive in all the Rites of Passage - they consider eating is part of their Rites of Passage and it all has to do with their concept of their religious belief. Their religious practices and more will be discussed in my books.

It is published that there are over 18,000 greys alone in Dulce Base - as well as human workers, repton workers, plus thousands of the inmates and created inside Dulce Base. Most think the Pentagon is the largest building - maybe so on the surface - but underground, Dulce Base is larger in size than the entire city of Washington DC, not just the size of one bulding. Dulce Base is vast, with many thousands of people there. "

[Bill Ryan]

it's curious that gordon novel denies the existence of dulce base...any idea as to why would that be? thanks


He said he spend a lot of time looking for the entrances and was never able to find anything.

[Carmody]

I could probably find one entrance. But I'm not so sure it's a good idea, on the personal level, to find it.

It is, 'my guess' as they say, that the primary 'in use' (not construction) personnel entrances to Dulce are via the rail/station system, and not via 'surface to beneath ground' in any direct way - that is commonly used. This creates a dual level access (and exit) security redundancy of a sort, as a worst case analysis/scenario. Such thinking is obviously of a 'base security' (backups for my backups!) style of thinking, which is the normal pattern of doing things for such groups.

[Fredkc]

It's not the entrances that are risky. It's what follows you home. ;)

[Carmody]

I believe (never you mind) the trains to Dulce are made of aluminum alloy (and are quite well sealed) and that the specific trains that go to Dulce have a 'guard' on board the given 'train' and that one has to pass this being to get to Dulce proper. This, before hitting that security level - at the base itself. Just a guess. Could be wrong....

(information is so darned scarce that my little bit here could end up being the standard Dulce entrance story in quick order, even though it is not intended to be that)

[Banshee]

Another random thought - if were going to make an entrance underground, I would do it through some satellite building. If you Google Earth the site, you can see a large Veteran's Hospital there, just one possibility or who knows - maybe they go in through the local Taco Bell! Its curious how close together the homes are there. Its not like there is a lack of land in NM? This is a non substantiated thought. Sorry for jumping in without any facts.

[Hughe]

I read the story.

I noticed that the "Illojim"s points the Annunaki.
The Earth origin reptillians had fought against Annunakis over one million years on and off, finally they defeated the intruder, who were the creator of human race.

'The very advanced alien from different plain' reminded me "hyperversals" in Alien Mind, which evolved one billion years ago.
It's interesting how she got the "one billion".


I still haven't found any statements that lead to proving the credibility of this event, if any of you knows something please share.
The story in general sounds good to me. It might be completely fake story. It depends how they look at.
I don't spend my time to analyze word by word for validation.

The reptillian claimed there were two crash sites in Rosewell accident.

1st Lt. Walter Haut (June 2, 1922 - December 15, 2005)
Walter Haut's testimony released to public right after his death.

Excerpt from 'Witness to Roswell: Unmasking the 60-Year Cover-Up, 2007:


http://ufos.about.com/od/bestufocrashcases/a/roswellevidence.htm
He also affirms what many Roswell researchers have stated-a second crash site besides the one at the Foster Ranch. The second site allegedly held the main saucer and alien bodies. The northern most site had been found by civilians, and this news was being spread throughout the small town of Roswell.


The story was published on the web site on Dec, 26, 2004.
Jimmy Bergman, Owner, Sweden.
Published in this website on December 26, 2004.

Did Jimmy Bergman already knew the two Rosewell crash sites from other sources?

[Bill Ryan]

Did Jimmy Bergman already knew the two Roswell crash sites from other sources?

Probably - it's fairly well established that there were two Roswell crash sites (and possibly even three). Things were compounded during the 1947 summer as there may have been several crashes in the New Mexico area within the space of a couple of months.

[Orion.V]

There is no explanation for ones that do not want one.
Regarding those souls trapped there... God only know why and when .
In the highest way of the meaning.

Souls that became reps are the ones abandoning the source of light and life and love . Look in what they turned into.
Religion today-all of them are reps way of taking people away from prime source.
Sad are they ,really, despite gruesome life and tech that they have.

It takes a leap of faith to return to prime source (God ,Creator) ,it is acknowledging and re union with the source.
They wish not that and wish to drag all down with them...

I felt sad reading this last post ...sad that they chose what they chose. From their view there is no god as they abandoned it . Sadly they miss the obvious thing that the very body they inhabit is made from atoms and molecules which is created by Prime source-Creator.
In negating God they negate themselves and look in what they turned into...
And they will degrade even more, until they devolve into dust,a cosmic dust if you will.

Sad but true.
But it is their choice.

I would love to see that we as humanity choose different path than reps and all aligned with them.

Maybe they think differently.
It does not necessarily mean that they do not believe in the prime creator but maybe they think that the prime creator does not intervene because it left everyone with a free will of choice and actions.
Why pray when you've done your life actions and you will eventually die one way or another, then return to the source, compare life experience and maybe reincarnate again.
What if all this we go through is actually lessons and gathering experience and we are left on our own ???

Just a random flash of thought ....

[wynderer]

just a small contribution here : a friend of mind went thru the Dulce area on a motorcycle trip -- he said that he was followed by an unmarked white van while driving thru the area & had uncomfortable feelings in general while there--

i find it significant that the Denver supermax prison is all underground -- i have a theory that most of the FEMA camps are also underground

[Strat]

I could probably find one entrance. But I'm not so sure it's a good idea, on the personal level, to find it.

It is, 'my guess' as they say, that the primary 'in use' (not construction) personnel entrances to Dulce are via the rail/station system, and not via 'surface to beneath ground' in any direct way - that is commonly used. This creates a dual level access (and exit) security redundancy of a sort, as a worst case analysis/scenario. Such thinking is obviously of a 'base security' (backups for my backups!) style of thinking, which is the normal pattern of doing things for such groups.

That's very clever, I didn't think of that. I guess that's the point though.

I've heard of the entrances in Florida. Anybody have any guesses as to where they would be? One would assume north Florida. That being said I'm pretty sure there aren't any in the Jacksonville area. Although as Socrates said, "If I know anything it is that I know nothing."

[SPIRIT WOLF]

I need to catch up on many postings in this thread, time and health allowing. But I would like to mention something re entrances. At Peasemore the only access was via 4 original now 3 other establishments. These being secure in their own right, Welford, Watchfield, Harwell and now closed and a business park....Greenham Common. Welford was the emergency access point, being the nearest facility. I read some pages back someone posted Dulce data and stated the desciption of that base, and that it began 200ft underground. Thats the first time I have come across that, I find it strange as the Peasemore facility begins 200ft underground.

[lightblue]

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Quote Originally Posted by lightblue View Post

it's curious that gordon novel denies the existence of dulce base...any idea as to why would that be? thanks l


Bill: He said he spend a lot of time looking for the entrances and was never able to find anything.

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i know i know..he really put it strongly that he searched the area inch by inch and that: "there was nothing there" - no entrances...given he is an acomplished investigator and assuming he is not lying, if there are no entrances, there is no facility either..he didn't say that explicitely, but doesn't that follow from what he said while at the same time not leaving any room for the possibility that the base may exist without external entrances...unless he has a reason not to disclose what he knows... :unsure: l

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[Gone002]

the only way to be sure would be to join that wing of the Army :confused: or not lol

[ArtyCarl]

This is directed at Bill really.

I have literally just finished reading UFO Highway and was enthralled by this amazing story. My personal feeling reading it was that Anthony Sanchez has padded out the interview with a few items as if to add some weight to his personal theories but overall reading this made me feel that if we were collaborating to this extent then this adds a lot more credence to the whole Serpo story.

But i am most interested in your comment about the book. Do you have misgivings about the book or the way it has been written?

[Bill Ryan]

This is directed at Bill really.

I have literally just finished reading UFO Highway and was enthralled by this amazing story. My personal feeling reading it was that Anthony Sanchez has padded out the interview with a few items as if to add some weight to his personal theories but overall reading this made me feel that if we were collaborating to this extent then this adds a lot more credence to the whole Serpo story.

But i am most interested in your comment about the book. Do you have misgivings about the book or the way it has been written?

I too read it with great interest.

BUT: I've worked on and published many transcripts of long interviews. I can absolutely tell you for a fact that - assuming this interview happened, which I believe it did - what was published is heavily edited and/or sanitized from the original.

People just don't talk like that. Read a couple of pages, and then turn to any Camelot or Avalon interview for comparison. You'll immediately see the difference.

This presents a problem. If I had a long and important interview such as the one with Sanchez's 'Colonel X', I would have presented it as verbatim as possible in order to clearly show its authenticity.

To 'improve it' is not smart - this kind of sanitization detracts from the authenticity and causes skeptics to suspect that it was all written as fiction.

I'm not saying that. But I am saying that what you're reading there is absolutely not the original conversation that took place between the two men.

[ArtyCarl]

Hi Bill, I absolutely agree with you on this...I dont give up my trust easily but I found myself questioning the style of the interview and just wish he had repeated it word for word.

I definitely got the feeling that Mr Sanchez had diluted the impact of the interview with possibly erroneous content which made me wonder if he was taking the opportunity to settle a few scores or enhance items he had a theory about.

Shame really because it is a cracking story...surely Hollywood wont leave this story untold for long!

[Bill Ryan]

Hi Bill, I absolutely agree with you on this...I dont give up my trust easily but I found myself questioning the style of the interview and just wish he had repeated it word for word.

Yes - it was a poor decision by Anthony to 'improve' it. Real conversations just don't read like smooth prose.

They contain short sentences, repetitions, pauses, stops-and-starts, and tend to use simple language.

Spoken language is very different from written language. That's why good Hollywood scriptwriters are paid so much. It's hard to emulate authentically.

In fairness to him, though, he was under considerable emotional pressure when he published the book. I was instrumental in encouraging him to get it out there fast. So in a way I encouraged him also not to spend the time making sure it was all as good as it possibly could be.

If he'd waited a couple of months before publishing it in hardback, he might have had it proof-read by others who might have pointed out to him that the interview didn't 'feel right', and might have encouraged him to publish the unchanged original.

The question remains what was changed or omitted - and why. This is the problem.

The difference with a Camelot or Avalon transcript is that regardless of whether you agree with the information, you're left in no doubt that this is what the witness really said, and there's absolutely no deception on the interviewer's part.

[Strat]

I need to catch up on many postings in this thread, time and health allowing. But I would like to mention something re entrances. At Peasemore the only access was via 4 original now 3 other establishments. These being secure in their own right, Welford, Watchfield, Harwell and now closed and a business park....Greenham Common. Welford was the emergency access point, being the nearest facility. I read some pages back someone posted Dulce data and stated the desciption of that base, and that it began 200ft underground. Thats the first time I have come across that, I find it strange as the Peasemore facility begins 200ft underground.

Hi spirit wolf. This is my first time hearing about Peasemore. I did a brief search and found a few pages and one documentary (Barry King http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBB5zhVh-rU ) about this base. Is there a particular site you'd suggest reading? I'm curious about the entrances you described. I'd like to read about that.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Hi there. My material is literally all over the web and unfortunately not in one place. I can try provide links to data. All of the original disclosures, running from Feb 1994 to December 2000 are contained in 600+A4 pages of original The Voice Files. These have been placed on CD disc by researcher/film maker Miles Johnston. See what I can do regarding getting some data placed here.

[Carmody]

I need to catch up on many postings in this thread, time and health allowing. But I would like to mention something re entrances. At Peasemore the only access was via 4 original now 3 other establishments. These being secure in their own right, Welford, Watchfield, Harwell and now closed and a business park....Greenham Common. Welford was the emergency access point, being the nearest facility. I read some pages back someone posted Dulce data and stated the description of that base, and that it began 200ft underground. Thats the first time I have come across that, I find it strange as the Peasemore facility begins 200ft underground.

Scanning though rock is a real problem. Although Pat Price did it in seconds (air duct work, I'm guessing), and half a second later read paper in a folder in a filing cabinet. Probably cost him his life, that there bit of skill. Killed by the same people who asked him to do it in the first place (as a test). That ain't right...but...by their logic... As Clint said in 'Unforgiven', "Deserve ain't got Nuthin' to do with it".

I'm guessing the 200 ft has to do with something similar. Maybe as simple as heat range thing, penetration of heat, etc. radiation? Solar? or maybe the best compound use regarding scanning, heat, radiation, etc. The distance closest to the surface that deals with all the potential issues. ..and no closer!

[Mystery]

Regarding the Base levels start at 200 feet: According to Tom Castello's answers, Quote:
"The First Level starts at 200 feet from the surface. Each level has a ceiling of seven, except levels six and seven, the ceiling there is 45 feet to 60 feet. The average highway ceiling is twenty five feet. The Central Hub at the base is 3000 feet wide. Use a 7.5 minute scale map to try to comprehend the size of the place."

[Kari Lynn]

posted by Wynderer:
i find it significant that the Denver supermax prison is all underground -- i have a theory that most of the FEMA camps are also underground

I can vouce for the FEMA camps being underground.
My brother and his friend, many years ago, had heard there was a FEMA storage center in one of the caves near here. He and his friend found a small cave at the back of the hill, and crawled through it, coming out behind one of the barrels on a shelf. They walked through it looking around. He said there was lots of barrels of stuff, possibly food and such stored in large barrels, and about few hundred beds, with Chain link fence around area where the beds were. Whether that was to keep people out of the food storages, or keep them in the facility, I don't know. Depends if the chain link fence went completely around the bedding area to lock them in. I'll have to ask him. I have asked him to show me the tunnel they found to get in, but he refuses. Says we'll get into trouble. And says he didn't think of it then, but says he was pretty lucky they didn't have a cave in and get buried alive in there.

[Lifebringer]

I threw a cross over baldy, and turned it down until a et photo or genetic experimental showed up. I see the sublim also. Doing the stuff of the 70's to try to make a mind submit to messages in commercials and nixom campaign ads.. It's not even attractive as it disturbs the peace within.

[jimmer]

I threw a cross over baldy, and turned it down until a et photo or genetic experimental showed up. I see the sublim also. Doing the stuff of the 70's to try to make a mind submit to messages in commercials and nixom campaign ads.. It's not even attractive as it disturbs the peace within.

just wondering, what are you trying to say?

[Bill Ryan]

Regarding the Base levels start at 200 feet: According to Tom Castello's answers, Quote:
"The First Level starts at 200 feet from the surface. Each level has a ceiling of seven, except levels six and seven, the ceiling there is 45 feet to 60 feet. The average highway ceiling is twenty five feet. The Central Hub at the base is 3000 feet wide. Use a 7.5 minute scale map to try to comprehend the size of the place."

Many thanks, Mystery - did Tom say more about the overall dimensions of the entire complex?

[Carmody]

Scanning though rock is a real problem. Although Pat Price did it in seconds (air duct work, I'm guessing), and half a second later read paper in a folder in a filing cabinet. Probably cost him his life, that there bit of skill. Killed by the same people who asked him to do it in the first place (as a test). That ain't right...but...by their logic... As Clint said in 'Unforgiven', "Deserve ain't got Nuthin' to do with it".

I'm guessing the 200 ft has to do with something similar. Maybe as simple as heat range thing, penetration of heat, etc. radiation? Solar? or maybe the best compound use regarding scanning, heat, radiation, etc. The distance closest to the surface that deals with all the potential issues. ..and no closer!

Stolen whole from a thread I stated in the Free energy area.

There may be a connection.

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http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/08/tapping-tesla-to-save-trapped-mi.html

In early January 2006, a methane explosion tore through a coal mine in Sago, West Virginia, trapping 13 miners nearly 100 meters underground. Cut off from communicating with the miners, authorities could not determine where they were—or even if they were still alive. By the time rescuers reached the miners 2 days later, all but one had died.

After the incident, Gary Smith, a retired engineer, sent a letter to his ex-manager at the Lockheed Martin Corp. in Syracuse, New York. Smith, who grew up in a West Virginia mining family, asked his former colleagues if anyone knew of a technology that could provide reliable communications during such disasters. After reading reports of the Sago incident and discussing similar emergencies with federal mine safety officials, the Lockheed Martin engineers updated a very old one.

The team focused on a concept developed over a century ago by Nikola Tesla. The noted pioneer in electricity and radio had shown that a magnetic wave generator could be used for wireless communications.

Basically, the generator works like an electromagnet. Powered by standard alternating current or battery, it runs electricity through a wire that is coiled around a metal cylinder, creating a harmless, low-energy magnetic field that extends for hundreds of meters. Just like radio, the field can carry an audio signal by modulating (raising or lowering) its strength instant by instant. But unlike radio, cell phones, and satellite phones—whose electromagnetic waves can't pass very far through rock, clay, or other materials that conduct electricity—a magnetically generated signal penetrates the ground easily. On the other end, a coiled antenna wire about 100 meters long receives the signal, and an amplifier converts it into sound.

In the 1890s, Tesla experimented with the concept as a possible alternative to Marconi's wireless telegraph. But the device's relatively short range and high signal noise made it impractical for widespread use. Short range is not a problem in most mine situations, explains engineer David LeVan, who led the Lockheed Martin research team. The devices the group developed, called the MagneLink Magnetic Communication System, combine a refrigerator-size magnetic generator with a briefcase-size receiving antenna. One such unit operates on the surface; the other, down in the mine. LeVan says tests earlier this year at a mine in Mavisdale, Virginia, showed that the low-frequency signal can penetrate through 500 meters of solid rock, making it usable in more than 85% of underground mines in the United States.

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What this means, is..that the unit has a terrible Signal To Noise ratio. Well, where does this poor S/N ratio come from? Interference, obviously. This means it can also be used to do radar work. The point, is that the poor S/N is actually useful signal, when looked at in the right way.

The other point..is that you have here, an approximate 500-700 Meter distance capable EM pulsing communication system that works through rock.

To top it off, it's the ole' Lockheed Martin company.

Never would have guessed. :rolleyes: That would never happen. No. Not Lockheed Martin. Never.

Lockheed Martin, out of the blue...fondling Tesla's bits, with regard to underground facilities???

I'd never thought such a thing would ever happen. :rolleyes:

[Mystery]

Many thanks, Mystery - did Tom say more about the overall dimensions of the entire complex?

Tom once mentioned that the outer east ring of the base is about 23 miles west of Taos, the outer west ring is 42 miles east of Los Alamos. I am sorry, but I never tried to guess exactly what that would be on a map, but I imagine it must be quite large. He mentioned the the northern ring in in Colorado. Forgive my delay I won't offer excuses, just say I am sorry.
Mystery

[JDM]

Just catching up on this thread.
Since its been some time since this was touched on maybe there will be some answers to some curious questions I have.


Is Mystery coming back?

When Will the books be published?

Does she have the "Buried box" and will she ever reveal it?

Has she been threatened or fear for her life?

What was her relationship with Thomas?

What exactly happened to Thomas?

Will we be able to see the photos he said he had?

Can she describe her (personal) Reptilian encounter in more detail?

Why has this info (the unreleased) been withheld for so long?


<<<<<I absorb info like some sort of yellow pourous spony material. Drop me in a bucket of it. :p

[JDM]

Can someone that has a FB account ask Mystery to come back to Avalon?

[learninglight]

Hi JDM
have forwarded your request to Mystery via FB

[JDM]

Hi JDM
have forwarded your request to Mystery via FB

Thanks,

I wrote a few questions a few post up. I dont know if she'll be able to answer any of them but its worth a try.

And its been some time now since it was discussed, So I thought maybe she would have more she would be willing to release.

[learninglight]

Hi JDM

Have had reply she will be back shortly.
I to am very interested in this thread, the information here is second to none, when i read what has been posted here it blew my mind i had to take some time out to digest the information, the truth is hard to take in but it has to be told.

Much respect and love to all

[Mystery]

Is Mystery coming back?

When Will the books be published?

Does she have the "Buried box" and will she ever reveal it?

Has she been threatened or fear for her life?

What was her relationship with Thomas?

What exactly happened to Thomas?

Will we be able to see the photos he said he had?

Can she describe her (personal) Reptilian encounter in more detail?

Why has this info (the unreleased) been withheld for so long?


!. Mystery is here.

2. The books will be published when they are finished. I am slow, but there are problems few understands - I must be very careful that I do not slip and accidently publish something classified. I do not want to go to prison, so I am careful to the max. I am a slow writer - plus I am not young these days, and the older I get, the
more I must rest before I continue. I am doing the best I can - please be patient with me.

3. Do I have the box? The box with all it's information, is still inside the mountain. Will I ever reveal what? The photos? The documents? The FlashGun? Three people knew the exact location - Tom, my son Marc, and me. Tom died in 1991 in an 7,5 earthquake in Costa Rica, my only son - Marc died in 1999. I alone knows the exact location. Several people have tried to find the box, but the box is still underground the ground. We are not talking about an easy mountain climb - but an incredible climb, hand over hand rough mountain. A can't climb like that these days.

4. Have I been threatened - yes. Since I want on Facebook/Avalon? Yes. It is not pleasant to be threatened - they are evil people and they use evil methods to frighten people.

5. My relationship with Tom Castello? We were friends, we were NOT lovers, but best friends. I never had any brothers, but he is as close as I will ever find one in this lifetime.

6. What happened to Tom? See question 3

7. Will you see the photos? You will if the box is opened by the right people.

8. If tou want to see what they look like, they are my sculpture of a repton can be seen in my photos in Facebook and they are not hidden of view.

9. What too so long? Because I am a natural hermit and very shy and private, I trusted others to get the information to the public. They were more interested in making a name for themselves and controlling the information. I finally got tired of the excuses the and went public. In the process I lost two frends - one I've known since 1975, the other since 1992. They were close friends, and was in nearly daily contact with them - I totally trusted them completely to release the information. But as soon as I went on Facebook using my real name - these friends were furious. The told me not to use my real name and to do not discuss Dulce Base material. I went just the other wa - my real name and my main focus is Dulce Base.
They still do not speak to me. I still hold them both is high regard.

I am here - and I will answer questions, as much as I can legally answer. Please remember that it might take a while to answer your questions, I am under doctors care and must rest a lot right now. But I will answer your questions.
Many blessings
Mystery

[passiglight]

Hi mystery sorry to hear you're not well,hope your health improves soon,,,,

1) would you know or have an educated guess at how many reptillians are on earth at the moment ?

2) i get the impression they are a bit formal if not slightly hostile would you agree ?

[majapahit]

what I can remember of Philip Schneider's story is
- he was lowered by a rope or something in a whole that had appeared on the base's surface
- he was uneasy and carried a pistol
- he saw a reptilian on a ledge staring at him

- thus he fired (sic)

then this 'security breach' was counteracted with base troops send into the whole
then a couple of hundred people died

Philip Schneider tells this story if he was the hero character

while, of course, he is the stupid moron
(and a typical example of USA army's rank and file's attitude towards 'intruders', a selection of dumb and dumber)

mt

[Dennis Leahy]

Mystery,

Please make sure that a "working copy", at least, of all your writing is distributed to several trusted people. "In the event of my death..." kind of thing, so the disclosure gets out even if you leave this Earthly plane before you get the books done. The written material, including your own classified material that you would not divulge if still alive, could be in with the other written material, and in fact act as an "insurance policy" that it would become public in the event of your death. Make it public that copies have been distributed.

Looking forward to your book(s) when they are available.

Dennis

[learninglight]

Hi Mystery
As a child i lived on an army base in Corsham (England) my father was in the Royal Signals, and i absolutely detested every day i was there, i can't explain the way it made me feel but i was so glad when we left the place, then i was watching a youtube video by Barry King and my heart jumped into my mouth! The bad feeling came back that i had when i was living there and i can't begin to understand why it would have this effect on me, thats how i came to view the posts on this thread and when i read your posts about Dulce i was moved to tears.

Much love and respect
Sharon

[Mystery]

To: Passiglight: QUESTIONS:

1) would you know or have an educated guess at how many reptillians are on earth at the moment ?

2) i get the impression they are a bit formal if not slightly hostile would you agree ?

Please be aware that is is my opinion - not a fact -

ANSWERS:

1. But since they live underground, enjoy long lives, (they have been here as long as there has been recorded history) my guess is several million. They do not over populate like the human race,

2. They are very formal, they do not consider the human their peers, but a lesser race - but think about this, who is fighting wars - the human race or the reptons? Do you see reptons fighting wars? Who is hostile and violent? Who kills their own family, their neighbors, their spouses? Humans or reptons?

[ghostrider]

the d.u.m.b.s. project interest me, our government would not spend the kind of money they do for over 50 yrs, based on a whim. I feel this is key to the larger picture. The bases do exist, over 1500 of them to what purpose we may never really know.

[passiglight]

To: Passiglight: QUESTIONS:

1) would you know or have an educated guess at how many reptillians are on earth at the moment ?

2) i get the impression they are a bit formal if not slightly hostile would you agree ?

Please be aware that is is my opinion - not a fact -

ANSWERS:

1. But since they live underground, enjoy long lives, (they have been here as long as there has been recorded history) my guess is several million. They do not over populate like the human race,

2. They are very formal, they do not consider the human their peers, but a lesser race - but think about this, who is fighting wars - the human race or the reptons? Do you see reptons fighting wars? Who is hostile and violent? Who kills their own family, their neighbors, their spouses? Humans or reptons?

Thank you for answering me mystery i respect your actions and bravery more than i can say

Cosmic Love to you

[passiglight]

Hi again mystery

1) do you think the reptons would prefer it if we were not on this planet

2) Do you think if humans were not such a hostile species, that humans and reptons could all live in peace and mutually work together to build a better future for ourselves ?

thank you mystery

[passiglight]

I just want to say here,,,,,,,,

It breaks my heart to realise that humans as a race are deemed to be so hostile, especially towards other races, both off world and on world

I understand that this hostility is and has been forced apon us by the warped thinking of a minority of entities that exert power over the many and that we are lied to and coerced into taking hostile stances and corrupted every minute of every day and all throughout our history.

It is sad that we as a whole are viewed so negatively by the entities around us because of the actions of the minority.

I also recognise that many of us are not naturally hostile and are loving and peaceful and would relish the chance to show the true loving qualities we have within us and i recognise that project avalon and other communities e.g. project camelot, are shinning diamonds in the coal pit of life here on earth.

I hope in years to come, we are not all judged by the actions of the few.

and i recognise the value and the intention of loving unconditionally in the here and now.

We as a race deserve better.

Cosmic love

[Mystery]

what I can remember of Philip Schneider's story is
- he was lowered by a rope or something in a whole that had appeared on the base's surface
- he was uneasy and carried a pistol
- he saw a reptilian on a ledge staring at him

- thus he fired (sic)

then this 'security breach' was counteracted with base troops send into the whole
then a couple of hundred people died

Philip Schneider tells this story if he was the hero character

while, of course, he is the stupid moron
(and a typical example of USA army's rank and file's attitude towards 'intruders', a selection of dumb and dumber)

mt

Phil stated he shot two greys on the SEVENTH level of Dulce Base - the problem being is he was in the wrong location. He was in the southwest section of the Base - roughly twenty miles from the main base. The Dulce Wars happened on the THIRD level ONLY. I can't guess why he would be near the Project Gasbuggy section in 1979 that he might have seen or shot greys. The greys avoid the remote areas of the base because of the lighting is not safe for them. That doesn't mean that Phil didn't do the things he claimed, but I know he was not involved with the Dulce Wars.

[Mystery]

Can someone that has a FB account ask Mystery to come back to Avalon?

thank you for letting me know there is still an interest in the Dulce Base here.

[Mystery]

Mystery,

Please make sure that a "working copy", at least, of all your writing is distributed to several trusted people. "In the event of my death..." kind of thing, so the disclosure gets out even if you leave this Earthly plane before you get the books done. The written material, including your own classified material that you would not divulge if still alive, could be in with the other written material, and in fact act as an "insurance policy" that it would become public in the event of your death. Make it public that copies have been distributed.

Looking forward to your book(s) when they are available.

Dennis

Thank you for your wise suggestions. I will most seriously consider that. Thank you!

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Hi there,

The Dulce material is too difficult for me and too traumatic, so I avoid it. I know my limits and what I can handle. However, I wanted to point you all to some material.

I'm sorry for pointing you to this terribly laid out website, but look at the information.

http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/Dulce-Deception.html

Also google Mark Richards Dulce

Now, the story that Mark and Jo Ann tell about Dulce is too fantastical to believe and more like a Hollywood movie pitch. I would dismiss it completely except for one thing.

Jo Ann is local to me and I have met her several times and had pleasant conversations with her. I detect no deception. She seems like a perfectly decent person with a good heart. Many, such as John Lear, have accused her of being a disinfo agent. Jo Ann seemed genuinely hurt and frustrated by this.

I contacted Bill about this last year and he said he wanted to make contact with Jo Ann, but he did not follow up. I just figured more important things came up. Jo Ann very much wants to tell her story and lectures here and there.

I don't know what is true. I don't look into Dulce because I cannot stomach it. All I can tell you is that Jo Ann seems to me to be a genuinely good person. I'm kind of surprised that she isn't a member here, but maybe she is. I can also tell you that Jo Ann works for a living and is not swimming in black ops payola.

[Mystery]

Hi there,

The Dulce material is too difficult for me and too traumatic, so I avoid it. I know my limits and what I can handle. However, I wanted to point you all to some material.

I'm sorry for pointing you to this terribly laid out website, but look at the information.

http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/Dulce-Deception.html

Also google Mark Richards Dulce

Now, the story that Mark and Jo Ann tell about Dulce is too fantastical to believe and more like a Hollywood movie pitch. I would dismiss it completely except for one thing.

Jo Ann is local to me and I have met her several times and had pleasant conversations with her. I detect no deception. She seems like a perfectly decent person with a good heart. Many, such as John Lear, have accused her of being a disinfo agent. Jo Ann seemed genuinely hurt and frustrated by this.

I contacted Bill about this last year and he said he wanted to make contact with Jo Ann, but he did not follow up. I just figured more important things came up. Jo Ann very much wants to tell her story and lectures here and there.

I don't know what is true. I don't look into Dulce because I cannot stomach it. All I can tell you is that Jo Ann seems to me to be a genuinely good person. I'm kind of surprised that she isn't a member here, but maybe she is. I can also tell you that Jo Ann works for a living and is not swimming in black ops payola.

I am VERY familiar with "Branton" (Bruce Allen Walton) and I am familiar with Jo Ann's material. I am not willing to speak in an unpleasant matter, so with your kind permission I will recline a visit to Branton's material and Jo Ann's material.

[JDM]

thank you for letting me know there is still an interest in the Dulce Base here.

I have always found this to be extremely interesting ever since I first read about Thomas a couple years ago.
I also think this needs to get out to more people. So they can be aware of what is actually taking place there. I can only imagine what is going on down there now. If the information you have is over 30 years old!

It seems with so many people and personell that work down there, that there would be more people coming forward with this information. This would change everyones outlook about reality.

Thank You!
for coming back and sharing more with us.

[learninglight]

Hi Mystery

Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge with us today even though you should be resting

Do you think the reptons are engaging in the genetic experiments with the humans so that one day they may be able to live on the surface of the planet even if the conditions are cold?

[JDM]

Mystery,

Is there a link other then you that has any information or connection to the Base or Thomas?

It seems you and "The Box" are the only ones left that hold the information on this. Have you considered giving the coordinates or exact location of the box to anyone?

I think that the box would be the key to blow the lid off of this thing with undeniable evidence that this is a very real thing. and the corruption and wrong doing going on there.

With all do respect. how and why are "THEY" allowing you to speak out about this?
My first thought is they probably figure that many people wont believe anyway.
"Who" are the ones that have threatened you?

Will there be new never before released information in your book?

You said you have to be careful about releasing classified information, would you give that information to someone else to release?

Are there actual physical classified documents?


Sorry if im asking to much, Im just extremely curious about this (and many other things).
I thank you much! for your time to satisfy that curiosity.

[Mystery]

Mystery,

Is there a link other then you that has any information or connection to the Base or Thomas?

It seems you and "The Box" are the only ones left that hold the information on this. Have you considered giving the coordinates or exact location of the box to anyone?
I think that the box would be the key to blow the lid off of this thing with undeniable evidence that this is a very real thing. and the corruption and wrong doing going on there.

With all do respect. how and why are "THEY" allowing you to speak out about this? My first thought is they probably figure that many people wont believe anyway.

Will there be new never before released information in your book?

You said you have to be careful about releasing classified information, would you give that information to someone else to release?

Are there actual physical classified documents?


Sorry if im asking to much, Im just extremely curious about this (and many other things).

I'm sure you are curious, most people are curious about hidden and secret material. It is normal. You asked if my books will have materail that has never been released - yes. That is my entire point of writing them. Right now I am focusing on the fictional verstion because I can "get away" with more information released a fictional story than I dare in a 'facts only' book.

About the other sites with Dulce material - I have no problem with their sites, and they are entertaining - but it does make a problem when they find it necessary to add to their theory and call them "facts." There are a lot of writers and they take things that they "heard" about Dulce and publish it as 'real facts' when they are far from the truth. Not all writers do that, but there are a lotof people take material they heard from a trusted friend and consider it trustworthy. I can't blame them for wanting a more colorful story, but when it is finished - that is exactly what they have - a story. I am not willing to write stories, even if they are listed as 'fiction.' So - other sites with Dulce material - thousands of them, just the facts.... well, I don't know any that didn't add their own opinion of the facts because that is 'not exciting' to them. Facts bore people. Sorry, so call me boring, but I strict to the truth and don't change the facts to make my material more exciting.

Why do they allow me to talk? Be careful I am VERY careful. I never go on radio or TV interviews so I can't accidently relesed forbidden material.
Are there real classified documents - you are asking very dangerous question. So let me ask you ask you this - what do you think?

[JDM]

what do you think?

I understand,

I think Dr Michael Wolf said in an interview before his death that his book (Catchers of Heaven) was True. He said he got permission to publish it from President Clinton, but it had to be published as Fiction only! that was the only way that they allowed him to release his information.

[witchy1]

Hello the very lovely Mystery.

I have a question from then notes but am not sure you are able to answer regarding the taking of souls. I struggle to understand how they actually do this, how are they stored (dont they get mixed up together if they store them in large vats) and the biggie - for what purpose? Do they transplant into their themselves or the hybrid race or are they keeping them for another purpose altogether.
If for tranplanting into the hybrid race does this mean that the previous person is re-incarnated?
This may simply show my child-like ignorance of what the soul really is of course - although believe it is an essence/light of the person, but I dont understand how they can be got at in such a physical sense)

There has been much talk of late regarding reptons living on terra and returning to human form at inopportune moments
Is there anyway we (as humans) can tell if a percieved human is really a repton or constructed hybrid from a physical perspective. Are there any tell tale signs other than they prefer not to eat in public (if this is a sign)
Do you think that we have many human/repton hybrids living amongst us?

(Trust you had a fantastic birthday)

Love and light
Witchy

[Mystery]

what do you think?

I understand,

I think Dr Michael Wolf said in an interview before his death that his book (Catchers of Heaven) was True. He said he got permission to publish it from President Clinton, but it had to be published as Fiction only! that was the only way that they allowed him to release his information.

I'm certain there are many 'fiction' books that are not only the truth, but so fantastic no one would suspect they are disguised truth.

[aikisaw]

It's Against the Law to Be Exposed to Aliens

http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/et-law.htm

-Cherry Hinkle- (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000857452451) There are a lot of laws that are hard to believe, but as you know, those laws are passed "to protect you." Don't you safe knowing if an alien exposes you from their diseases you can be placed is custody with out any hearings or lawyers?

This would give the PTB the logical reason and justification to fill the FEMA camps.

In the false flag alien event people would be more willing to accept the orders than they would otherwise.

I'm just starting to get to this side of the forum. If this has been said 100 times already, my apologies.

[Mystery]

Hi Mystery

Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge with us today even though you should be resting

Do you think the reptons are engaging in the genetic experiments with the humans so that one day they may be able to live on the surface of the planet even if the conditions are cold?

Thank you! I will be resting again in a few minutes.
There are many reasons for the genetic experiments, they are not conderned about living on the surface of this planet. They are tracking certain blood traits and DNA traits. One might ask your self what - or WHO - would be worth the vast effort? If you are of a certain blood, mostly O- blood type (and other rare blood) you might be tracked. If you do not that blood type, you might end up in Dulce Base. All cows share human blood, that is why if there is a grave disaster or war, cows blood can be given to any human, with out the need of typing. (THINK about what that actually means)
WHO are they looking for with all this tracking? When you think you know the answer - then just be careful about talking about it. Some information is dangerous to know.

[JDM]

Mystery,

I apologize if some of my questions have already been answered. I may have overlooked them.

How long did Thomas work at Dulce?

What made him "Stick out" to the people that transfered him to Dulce? I mean Why do you think they choose him for his specific job?

Did he ever befriend any other non humans besides the Reptoid that "broke Away" and helped him?

How did the Reptoids view Thomas? As a trust worhty human? or as just another human?

Did he ever talk with any of the grays?


Thank You for doing this, I know you said you needed rest.

[Flash]

Hi Mystery

Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge with us today even though you should be resting

Do you think the reptons are engaging in the genetic experiments with the humans so that one day they may be able to live on the surface of the planet even if the conditions are cold?

Thank you! I will be resting again in a few minutes.
There are many reasons for the genetic experiments, they are not conderned about living on the surface of this planet. They are tracking certain blood traits and DNA traits. One might ask your self what - or WHO - would be worth the vast effort? If you are of a certain blood, mostly O- blood type (and other rare blood) you might be tracked. If you do not that blood type, you might end up in Dulce Base. All cows share human blood, that is why if there is a grave disaster or war, cows blood can be given to any human, with out the need of typing. (THINK about what that actually means) WHO are they looking for with all this tracking? When you think you know the answer - then just be careful about talking about it. Some information is dangerous to know.

Where did you get this? Reference please.

It goes counter to anything I ever learned in any biology class - I mean even high school. I need references to ever think this is possible. If they are valid, I will contemplate having another vision. Thanks

[str8thinker]

Well, now I'm going to stick my neck out and say...

1) JDM posted earlier:

I think Dr Michael Wolf said in an interview before his death that his book (Catchers of Heaven) was True. He said he got permission to publish it from President Clinton, but it had to be published as Fiction only! that was the only way that they allowed him to release his information.

"Dr" Michael Wolf was a complete fraud. Starting here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpU871OA4WY), view his brother Ron Kruvant expose him (7 parts to this YouTube documentary).

2) The more I read of Mystery's posts, the more this is beginning to smell the same way. No point in revealing anything more when there is money to be made from a forthcoming book which I expect to be as unsatisfying as it is fictitious, in both senses.

3)
(Cherry Hinkle aka Mystery) I am VERY familiar with "Branton" (Bruce Allen Walton) and I am familiar with Jo Ann's material. I am not willing to speak in an unpleasant matter, so with your kind permission I will recline (decline) a visit to Branton's material and Jo Ann's material.

This is starting to smell too. If Cherry's version is genuine, I see no reason why she should not offer her expert opinion on the other materials, both of which I have now read. This is, after all, a forum where stuff can be objectively analyzed. I agree that the Richards material would make a good movie script, maybe with Bruce Willis as the lead (Richards Jnr.). So, Cherry, what's really stopping you from commenting on it? And moreover, if you have read UFO Highway, what do you think of "Colonel X"?

So it seems we now have at least five versions of Dulce, all at loggerheads with one another:

- Phil Schneider's
- Tom Castello's
- Colonel X's (relayed by Anthony Sanchez)
- Mark and Jo Ann Richards'
- Paul Bennewitz's

and Uncle Tom Cobley and all.

http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/Dulce-Deception.html

Even better:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/DulceMatrix.html

[JDM]

Well, now I'm going to stick my neck out and say...

1) JDM posted earlier:

I think Dr Michael Wolf said in an interview before his death that his book (Catchers of Heaven) was True. He said he got permission to publish it from President Clinton, but it had to be published as Fiction only! that was the only way that they allowed him to release his information.

"Dr" Michael Wolf was a complete fraud. Starting here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpU871OA4WY), view his brother Ron Kruvant expose him (7 parts to this YouTube documentary)

I did see that interview shortly after it was released.

[Mystery]

Hi again mystery

1) do you think the reptons would prefer it if we were not on this planet

2) Do you think if humans were not such a hostile species, that humans and reptons could all live in peace and mutually work together to build a better future for ourselves ?


thank you mystery

ANSWERS:
1. The Dracon race need and use humans, the do the same things they did during the Golden Ages - very much like they did when the age of the Garden of Eden - to till the ground and mine the earth. The Dracon already had his brethren and his sons he in their own image, but he didn't have servents, or laborer, to enjoy the world they created. (on the eighth day - Genesis 2:5 "for the Lord God had not cause it to rain uponon earth, and there was not a man to till the earth.: Genesis 2:7 "and the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his mostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.") Some things never change.

2. YES!! The reptons and the Dracon are not hostile, they taught the human race when they were kicked out of Eden (inside the Earth) - it the the repton that taught the human how to survive on the surface. There is no history of the reptilians destroying humans, just that they tolerated the humans violent nature. Through out history the reptons have been mentioned over and over, as helpers for the human race, not as warriors. But the human race is constant turmoil and war - yes - if the human would ever change their violent nature, this would be a wonderful world.

[JDM]

Mystery,

Would you be willing to give a more detailed account of your encounter with the repton you seen?

Would you do a video interview?

Thanks

[learninglight]

Well, now I'm going to stick my neck out and say...

1) JDM posted earlier:

I think Dr Michael Wolf said in an interview before his death that his book (Catchers of Heaven) was True. He said he got permission to publish it from President Clinton, but it had to be published as Fiction only! that was the only way that they allowed him to release his information.

"Dr" Michael Wolf was a complete fraud. Starting here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpU871OA4WY), view his brother Ron Kruvant expose him (7 parts to this YouTube documentary).

2) The more I read of Mystery's posts, the more this is beginning to smell the same way. No point in revealing anything more when there is money to be made from a forthcoming book which I expect to be as unsatisfying as it is fictitious, in both senses.

3)
(Cherry Hinkle aka Mystery) I am VERY familiar with "Branton" (Bruce Allen Walton) and I am familiar with Jo Ann's material. I am not willing to speak in an unpleasant matter, so with your kind permission I will recline (decline) a visit to Branton's material and Jo Ann's material.

This is starting to smell too. If Cherry's version is genuine, I see no reason why she should not offer her expert opinion on the other materials, both of which I have now read. This is, after all, a forum where stuff can be objectively analyzed. I agree that the Richards material would make a good movie script, maybe with Bruce Willis as the lead (Richards Jnr.). So, Cherry, what's really stopping you from commenting on it? And moreover, if you have read UFO Highway, what do you think of "Colonel X"?

So it seems we now have at least five versions of Dulce, all at loggerheads with one another:

- Phil Schneider's
- Tom Castello's
- Colonel X's (relayed by Anthony Sanchez)
- Mark and Jo Ann Richards'
- Paul Bennewitz's

and Uncle Tom Cobley and all.

http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/Dulce-Deception.html

Even better:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/DulceMatrix.html

We are all entitled to come to our own conclusions on the information that is put out, and if Cherry makes the decision not to comment on some one elses material i think we should respect her wishes, i think its called free choice

Peace and love:cool:

[JDM]

So it seems we now have at least five versions of Dulce, all at loggerheads with one another:

Probably more versions and stories then 5.

That means to me that there is definitely some S*** going on at the Dulce base then we will ever know.

[Icecold]

Well, now I'm going to stick my neck out and say...

1) JDM posted earlier:

I think Dr Michael Wolf said in an interview before his death that his book (Catchers of Heaven) was True. He said he got permission to publish it from President Clinton, but it had to be published as Fiction only! that was the only way that they allowed him to release his information.

"Dr" Michael Wolf was a complete fraud. Starting here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpU871OA4WY), view his brother Ron Kruvant expose him (7 parts to this YouTube documentary).

2) The more I read of Mystery's posts, the more this is beginning to smell the same way. No point in revealing anything more when there is money to be made from a forthcoming book which I expect to be as unsatisfying as it is fictitious, in both senses.

3)
(Cherry Hinkle aka Mystery) I am VERY familiar with "Branton" (Bruce Allen Walton) and I am familiar with Jo Ann's material. I am not willing to speak in an unpleasant matter, so with your kind permission I will recline (decline) a visit to Branton's material and Jo Ann's material.

This is starting to smell too. If Cherry's version is genuine, I see no reason why she should not offer her expert opinion on the other materials, both of which I have now read. This is, after all, a forum where stuff can be objectively analyzed. I agree that the Richards material would make a good movie script, maybe with Bruce Willis as the lead (Richards Jnr.). So, Cherry, what's really stopping you from commenting on it? And moreover, if you have read UFO Highway, what do you think of "Colonel X"?

So it seems we now have at least five versions of Dulce, all at loggerheads with one another:

- Phil Schneider's
- Tom Castello's
- Colonel X's (relayed by Anthony Sanchez)
- Mark and Jo Ann Richards'
- Paul Bennewitz's

and Uncle Tom Cobley and all.

http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/Dulce-Deception.html

Even better:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/DulceMatrix.html

We are all entitled to come to our own conclusions on the information that is put out, and if Cherry makes the decision not to comment on some one elses material i think we should respect her wishes, i think its called free choice

Peace and love:cool:


This is starting to smell too. If Cherry's version is genuine, I see no reason why she should not offer her expert opinion on the other materials, both of which I have now read.


I agree with STR8 on this point. Also there is the complication of thought implants. What we believe may or may not be true in some cases regarding some subjects. I would think that in the case of Dulce, there would be a concerted effort to produce 'authentic looking' disinformation. All stops out to produce this material. If the budgets are that large, it is plausible.

[JDM]

Also there is the complication of thought implants. What we believe may or may not be true in some cases regarding some subjects. I would think that in the case of Dulce, there would be a concerted effort to produce 'authentic looking' disinformation. All stops out to produce this material. If the budgets are that large, it is plausible.

I think I know what your saying.

But can you explain that better?

[grunt225]

They should take all five versions of the Dulce stories and make a 3D movie.

[witchy1]

Where did you get this? Reference please. It is not difficult to do a google search:

This from a NY Times document 2001. I am sure that there will enough leads in here to follow up on.

In part

Hemopure, a blood substitute derived from purified cow blood, has been undergoing clinical trials. (C. J. Gunther for The New York Times); Biopure is one of several companies that are competing for what is expected to be a large market for blood substitutes. Its product, Hemopure, was used in a clinical trial during a prostate cancer surgery at a San Antonio hospital. (Bryce Harper for The New York Times)(pg. 1); A worker at Biopure, left, prepares bags of Oxyglobin at its plant in Cambridge, Mass. Carl W. Rausch, above, the chief executive, has led the company's 17-year drive to develop a blood substitute. (Photographs by C. J. Gunther for The New York Times); David N. Judelson helped to found Biopure in 1984 after leaving Gulf & Western. Keeping Biopure afloat demanded all his financial skills. (Ozier Muhammad for The New York Times)(pg. 15)
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9806E7DC143BF937A35750C0A9679C8B63&pagewanted=5

I am sure mystery did not need research any articles.

[Flash]

Thank you Witchy and Mystery,

You made me less ignorant!



Where did you get this? Reference please. It is not difficult to do a google search:

This from a NY Times document 2001. I am sure that there will enough leads in here to follow up on.

In part

Hemopure, a blood substitute derived from purified cow blood, has been undergoing clinical trials. (C. J. Gunther for The New York Times); Biopure is one of several companies that are competing for what is expected to be a large market for blood substitutes. Its product, Hemopure, was used in a clinical trial during a prostate cancer surgery at a San Antonio hospital. (Bryce Harper for The New York Times)(pg. 1); A worker at Biopure, left, prepares bags of Oxyglobin at its plant in Cambridge, Mass. Carl W. Rausch, above, the chief executive, has led the company's 17-year drive to develop a blood substitute. (Photographs by C. J. Gunther for The New York Times); David N. Judelson helped to found Biopure in 1984 after leaving Gulf & Western. Keeping Biopure afloat demanded all his financial skills. (Ozier Muhammad for The New York Times)(pg. 15)
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9806E7DC143BF937A35750C0A9679C8B63&pagewanted=5

I am sure mystery did not need research any articles.

[Mayan2012]

VERY wierd and interesting... was wondering if this was taken from another video. Sort of looked familiar.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SZ9zxx9qb8

What is the Village People biker doing on this video?? Maybe to add credibility??

Yep that must be it.

[witchy1]

Hi Str8thinker, I thought long and hard and edited much before I posted this.

I must say I was deeply saddened with not only your written word, but the tone of your post. I had thought better of you.

We are very fortunate to have Mystery here as our guest. We asked her to come to share her knowledge, which she very kindly agreed to. She didn't have to.

To date we have obtained as a goup an immense amount of information which whe was under no obligation to provide. She does this only so that humanity can be made aware of the truth. This is the truth of Tom Costello. Mystery is the ONLY person with this information - to date all others have been disregarded as disinformaton or very distorted truth all with their genesis in Toms work as I understand.

There are many reasons why she cannot share all, if you might pause to consider the consequences to herself and her family of total disclosure or of the imposed obligations that she is under - just to provide a starting point to your thoughts.


2) The more I read of Mystery's posts, the more this is beginning to smell the same way. No point in revealing anything more when there is money to be made from a forthcoming book which I expect to be as unsatisfying as it is fictitious, in both senses.

To accuse any person of deliberately withholding information for money is most distasteful. I suspect you will find that we have been privy to much information, all questions on the matter are quickly and honestly answered. Mystery has advised that further information will be included in the book - but this will be more of filling in the gaps and the nitty gritty of the matter. We already know the bigger picture.

If you "expect to be as unsatisfying as it is fictitious, in both senses", one can assume you will not be purchasing or reading the book as clearly in your opinion it would be worthless.
Can I ask why you would then say this. What benefit did it have to anyone. Was it simply to hurt Mysterys feelings, given she is reading this thread at the moment ? I can see no other reason.


This is starting to smell too. If Cherry's version is genuine, I see no reason why she should not offer her expert opinion on the other materials, both of which I have now read. This is, after all, a forum where stuff can be objectively analyzed.

I suggest that there is every reason why she does not offer her opinion. Have you considered what those reasons might be. Is it not her (or anyones) right to refuse to cast judgement on another. Is this what we are about?

I dont understand why do you consider that she "should" make comment at your request? I wonder who are you to demand such a thing? Does the fact that she has choosen not to make comment speak volumes in itself, specifically to her integrity - which for some reason you appear to have attacked.

Yes, this is a form where information can be objectively analyzed - However we can only discuss that which we have been presented with, we are in no position to force anyone to do or say anything or stand as judge and jury in respect of anyones opinons. That is just the way it is.

For correctness and clarity - "Cherry version" is in fact Tom Costello's version. As I understand Cherry is continuing with a promise made to Tom in the event of anything untoward happening. That being that humanity is made aware of the truth of Dulce. You seem to be minimizing and disregarding the actions of a very brave and wonderful man who by all accounts was doing the right thing by us as a species.


So, Cherry, what's really stopping you from commenting on it?

Not only are you suggesting that there is something hidden which is "stopping" her discussing the matter, but you accuse her of keeping secrets. Why do you speak with such confrontation?

There is every reason to beleive that Mystery is telling the truth. If you do not beleive that, then that is your absolute right.

There is little value coming onto this thread (or any other thread) with mindless insults, disparaging comments, writings of arrogance and demands for self serving answers.

At minimum good manners and respect are warranted. IMHO

[kinerkid]

Hello the very lovely Mystery.

I have a question from then notes but am not sure you are able to answer regarding the taking of souls.

Hi Witchy and Mystery - thank you so much for sharing. This is all great ifo. Could you help me with the notes regarding souls? I've looked through the notes on FB but may have missed them. Could you point me in the direction where this is mentioned?

Thanks!

[witchy1]

Hi kinerkid.......... hmmmm, will have to go looking for you. Hold tight

ADDIT: Still working on it, sorry for delay

[str8thinker]

@witchy1:


There are many reasons why she cannot share all, if you might pause to consider the consequences to herself and her family of total disclosure or of the imposed obligations that she is under - just to provide a starting point to your thoughts.

Well, if she's fearful of her safety, why publish a book in which she is unlikely to be able to add much to what has already been said? Maybe I was a bit more outspoken than usual, but I challenge Cherry to share with us one new morsel of information that will disprove this. I am fed up with being played along.


To accuse any person of deliberately withholding information for money is most distasteful.

Come on. This is happening all the time in conspiracy websites all over the Internet. If she wants to make a bit of money out of it, good luck to her.


For correctness and clarity - "Cherry version" is in fact Tom Costello's version. As I understand Cherry is continuing with a promise made to Tom in the event of anything untoward happening. That being that humanity is made aware of the truth of Dulce. You seem to be minimizing and disregarding the actions of a very brave and wonderful man who by all accounts was doing the right thing by us as a species.

To begin with, I and others doubt whether "Thomas Edwin Castello" ever existed, not the least being "Colonel X" in Anthony Sanchez's book UFO Highway. Of course, if the lie is different at every level and the PTB went to great lengths to remove all details about him, that might explain why Colonel X's investigation failed. Unlike Bill Cooper and Phil Schneider, we don't even have a photo of him. Even if one were posted, how would we know it is genuine?

What was "Tom Castello" alleged to have taken away from Dulce? Photos, maybe a video, and a "flash gun". A few of the photos were copied, and these rather uninformative sketches plus some text ended up as the "Dulce Papers", which John Lear admits (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread261604/pg1) to creating, having been given the sketches by "Ann West".

The circulating video is a fake, and the only photograph of the Dulce base Blood lab claimed to be authentic could have been taken in just about any lab. Download all you want, here (http://www.crowdedskies.com/dulce_papers.htm) and here (http://www.crowdedskies.com/dulce_papers_new_infomation.htm). There's not even a sketch of the Flash gun, nor anyone else who corroborates the description apart from maybe Jason Bishop III (http://www.subversiveelement.com/DulceBishop2.html), described as an "unknown so-called researcher (http://www.ufopsi.com/articles/jasonbishop.html)".

The "main meat" of "Tom Castello's" revelations relate to his description of the base in an interview by "Branton", part of "The Dulce Book". In fact, all the information on Castello, whether by Red Elk (unreliable) or John Rhodes, inevitably leads back once again to "Branton's" interview (they all quote him). I get the feeling that Cherry is not overly impressed by this guy; my gut feeling is that Branton embroidered the original interview, if indeed there ever was one.

Anyhow, the material in these disclosures is well and truly dated, replaced by growing support for the idea that what were once regarded as reptilian aliens prowling the corridors of Dulce were/are no more than human-engineered Programmable Life Forms (PLFs), as propounded by Barry King. Even the eminent Dr Steven Greer agrees with this point of view on his Good ETs and Bad ETs (http://rapidshare.com/files/365709784/worldpuja-2009-08-14_Good_ET_vs_Bad_ET_Paradigm.mp3) WorldPuja interview (21 Mb, well worth downloading).

All this is consistent with the PTB's long-term-goal of creating a credible "alien enemy" image to justify embarking on a third World War against them.

The obvious solution is for her to be interviewed by Bill Ryan, which wouldn't hurt her book's publicity and would make it easier for us to judge what else she may have to offer.

[witchy1]

Unlike Bill Cooper and Phil Schneider, we don't even have a photo of him. Even if one were posted, how would we know it is genuine?
Please see Bill's post # 25 for a photo of him and also at post #27


o begin with, I and others doubt whether "Thomas Edwin Castello" ever existed, not the least being "Colonel X" in Anthony Sanchez's book UFO Highway
Bills post at #26 talks about Sanchez

I have just read John Lears post at ATS its not a site I really go to, but had a quick read. It appear that Kerry and Bill interviewed him, so will be interesting to see what Bill has to say on this specifically regarding his claim that he created the notes and the sketches.

which John Lear admits (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread261604/pg1) to creating, having been given the sketches by "Ann West".

Anne West is Cherry's pseudonym for literary purposes.

It does appear that the Branton interview was heavily embroidered

I notice the confusion on ATS re access points to Dulce. I have posted before, but will repost

(It is not recommended that you try to obtain access. You will not get back out - also its against the law to enter a military base)

1. Dulce Lake – East south, statue of the Virgin in blue robes holding flowers, inside a small stone grotto. Use a Greek cross for a key (inverted) To activate the voice security, use a male voice, (not loud) say “Ave, Ave, Ave.” The three foot statue moves forward, look for the small opening with a mounted ladder inside.
2. Highway 1 south to intersect, turn east, follow dirt road approximately six miles south. Turn west toward mountain on a small trail (part of a dry wash) look for a link chain fence. Cross at the posed sign, up beside shrubs and trees is a small shed. Inside a wall calendar hides the controls for the elevator.
3. Go to the basement in the medical facility, look for the small door to the sub-basement that holds the narrow shaft to the first level to Dulce Base.
4. Look for the “coal mine,” several signs for no trespassing. The “mine” looks real but it’s a façade. It is about three miles east of the town limits, turn south on a small dirt road towards a mesa, “mine” in view.
5. Cordova Canyon. South highway 17.5 miles at the “Y” (south/east) approximately four and a half miles near a statue of a saint, use a Greek cross (rosary size) Use male voice “Ave, Ave, Ave.” Statues moves forward.

Use a geological survey map. Note: Aztec NM UFO crash in direct line to Dulce site. Also note that Dulce NM is a low gravity area, Dulce is -260, indicating caverns below the area.

This is what is included in the buried box
THE DULCE PAPERS
Include:

25 black and white photos
6 minute video tape of Dulce Facility with no dialog.
A set of technical papers pertaining to Facility -
Papers discussing -
copper & molybdenum,
magnesium & potassium,
medical terminology,
ultraviolet light and gamma rays,
the true purpose of the EBE's,
usage of cow blood,
DNA manipulation,
almost human being,
creation of non gender being,
DNA manipulation,
almost human beings,
sketches of the photos.

There is more information that I have not put here given that Cherry (aka Mystery) is now a member. If she is happy for me to post on her behalf then I will. The decision will be hers

If you have a facebook, you may like to be friends with Cherry. You would then have access to all the notes.

If you have specific question I am sure that they will be answered if phrased in the right manner.

As indicated and Cherry will attest - she is intensely private and she only became visible due to the amount of incorrect information that was being given to the public. It would be fair to say she was terrified of joining facebook.

The offer was certainly made for an interview and that still stands as far as I am aware. You could ask her if she would consider it?

I hope that you will understand that this very lovely lady has no malice and is not here to persuade anyone. She is simply here to make people aware. Please have patience.

A kind and gentle word may get you the response that you are looking for - or one you are not.

[witchy1]

I have recevied this letter from Cherry following my apology to her on behalf of Avalon.

Hello Karen,
I thank you for your kindness and your help. I know you didn't know this would happen, and I do not blame you at all.

I was shocked and dismayed when str8thinker attacked me, because I was I heard that sort of attacks were not tolerated at Avalon. Now I know better - I was invited to join only to be attacked.

I certainly don't mind if a person chooses to disagree with me, I believe everyone has the right to believe what ever they choose, but to they have to suggest that I am a money grabbing liar?? If I wanted to make money out of Dulce Base and Tom Castello I would have published all the Dulce material myself back in 1987 - but I allowed everyone else went on lectures, everyone wrote books, went on TV and radio and make money. I have never earned one penny for all the millions of words that have been published about Dulce world wide. To be suggest that I am trying to make money on this is a grave personal insult.

I will not go anywhere I am not welcome... and I am not welcome at Avalon... and people wonder why I remain a hermit and avoid the public. THIS is why I avoid
the public.

I am very private, and shy and avoid all public places. Since I have been Facebook, I have been asked seventeen times to be interviewed on TV and radio, and seventeen times I have refused. I have been offered money twice just to be interviewed. I said no. Does that match str8thinkers picture of me trying getting money?

Is honesty and truth such a rare thing that no one believes it when they see it? Is it possible that someone can just trying to do the right thing and straighten the record and tell it right?

I doubt that I'll be back to Avalon, I misunderstood the format, I thought it was a friendly place where people can share their information in an open discussion form. I don't not like snipers.

Thank for trying to educate people, and you have my permission to continue to discuss my/Tom's material at Avalon.
Good luck Karen, and as always, you have my permission to use my letters, including this one.
Many Blessings

[Gone002]

What about figures in history and legend that killed dragons. Im aware this has come up before, but if they could kill them swords and arrows can we not do the same minus the arrows and swords.

[JDM]

Well...

I kinda feel this is my fault for restarting the discussion and asking questions.
I should have just left it alone.
I didn't even know there was anyone still around that Thomas had shared this with.

I have always believed that Dulce is indeed a real place and real things happen there.
Thats why when someone mentioned 5 different accounts.
That just confirms for me that there is indeed something going on there, that the people do not know about.

I do appreciate Cherry taking the time to answer some of my questions.

I only wish I had the opportunity to ask more, and learn more information about the base and what is going on there,
ESPECIALLY, from someone who actually knew Thomas very well. And trusted with all of this information.

Thank You Witchy1 for everything you have been doing here. You are a tremendous help to connecting all of us and getting this out also.

Thank You Cherry for taking the time to come here and answer some of my questions.

I would be more then happy if you decide to come back, which I hope you do.

[mountain_jim]

Well I will not say what I am thinking here, decorum will not allow it. :sick:

Appreciate your efforts here, Mystery.

[str8thinker]

@Mystery and witchy1

Well that certainly makes a difference! A big thanks for informing us as you have just done, and please accept my apologies for misinterpreting your shyness as deliberate concealment.

I had been to your Facebook site and all I found was the "New Dulce Letter" page. I looked for an earlier version but could not find one - maybe it contains info I missed.

Sorry if I gave you the impression you're not welcome at Avalon. My words were not intended as an attack, merely to express significant doubt about what has already been published about Tom. Please stay so we may all benefit by having you with us.

[learninglight]

At this time i feel so angry and responsible because i asked Mystery if she would come back and answer questions again, i would never have put her in the position she was put in if i had known, and due to someone having no decorum and respect to others we have lost a very knowledgeable, caring, loving member. I shall keep in touch with her and will let anyone who would like to know how she is getting on as at the moment she is unwell.
My apologies to you Witchy for having put you in a postion were you have had to defended Mystery, this situation should never have occurred

[JDM]

@Mystery and witchy1
Well that certainly makes a difference! A big thanks for informing us as you have just done, and please accept my apologies for misinterpreting your shyness as deliberate concealment.

Sorry if I gave you the impression you're not welcome at Avalon. My words were not intended as an attack, merely to express significant doubt about what has already been published about Tom. Please stay so we may all benefit by having you with us.

This comment was not directed at me, but,

I thank you for that str8thinker.
If there is anything we can agree on. We have all come here to understand, learn and grow more.

We have all been surrounded by lies and disinformation our whole lives, its everywhere.
It seems only natural to question, dissect, analyze and Prove everything.

But sometimes there are little "gems" in there .
Between all of the misinformation, distrust and lies, that we have to use our own intuition and felling.
Without Proving 100%, in your face, hands on hard evidence that can be dissected, questioned and analyzed.

I hope Cherry decides to come back.

[daledo]

@Mystery and witchy1
Well that certainly makes a difference! A big thanks for informing us as you have just done, and please accept my apologies for misinterpreting your shyness as deliberate concealment.

Sorry if I gave you the impression you're not welcome at Avalon. My words were not intended as an attack, merely to express significant doubt about what has already been published about Tom. Please stay so we may all benefit by having you with us.

This comment was not directed at me, but,

I thank you for that str8thinker.
If there is anything we can agree on. We have all come here to understand, learn and grow more.

We have all been surrounded by lies and disinformation our whole lives, its everywhere.
It seems only natural to question, dissect, analyze and Prove everything.

But sometimes there are little "gems" in there .
Between all of the misinformation, distrust and lies, that we have to use our own intuition and felling.
Without Proving 100%, in your face, hands on hard evidence that can be dissected, questioned and analyzed.

I hope Cherry decides to come back.

I think this is a lesson for everyone on this site to learn. Other sites have lots of members and lots of information but what I likes about Project Avalon was the courtesy it gave all of its members. This is the reason that I joined this forum and is the first and only one I am a member on. There has been a few thousand people join since Jan 1st the day the Charles material was released. People seem to be on edge but that is no excuse to treat others the way they have the last 6 weeks. Everyone here needs to take a big breath and digest information that is presented here and on other threads and come up with good questions that can help the truth be exposed instead of character assassinations or ill humor that only hinders the investigation of what we all want (to KNOW). I am 99% sure that there are members posting on our forum that post responses to comments that try to steer people away from the real truth and sway the majority of people that way. This is an assumption by me and I cannot prove anything. We all have to come together as the group we once were or we will not make it in the future. TPTB want us fighting, discrediting the whistle blowers, and farther away from the facts. Lets not do that job for them.

[Mystery]

At this time i feel so angry and responsible because i asked Mystery if she would come back and answer questions again, i would never have put her in the position she was put in if i had known, and due to someone having no decorum and respect to others we have lost a very knowledgeable, caring, loving member. I shall keep in touch with her and will let anyone who would like to know how she is getting on as at the moment she is unwell.
My apologies to you Witchy for having put you in a postion were you have had to defended Mystery, this situation should never have occurred

Please do not feel responsible to others. You are a kind person, and your kind words are appreciated.
Many blessings
Mystery

[Mystery]

Hi Str8thinker, I thought long and hard and edited much before I posted this.

I must say I was deeply saddened with not only your written word, but the tone of your post. I had thought better of you.

We are very fortunate to have Mystery here as our guest. We asked her to come to share her knowledge, which she very kindly agreed to. She didn't have to.

To date we have obtained as a goup an immense amount of information which whe was under no obligation to provide. She does this only so that humanity can be made aware of the truth. This is the truth of Tom Costello. Mystery is the ONLY person with this information - to date all others have been disregarded as disinformaton or very distorted truth all with their genesis in Toms work as I understand.

There are many reasons why she cannot share all, if you might pause to consider the consequences to herself and her family of total disclosure or of the imposed obligations that she is under - just to provide a starting point to your thoughts.


2) The more I read of Mystery's posts, the more this is beginning to smell the same way. No point in revealing anything more when there is money to be made from a forthcoming book which I expect to be as unsatisfying as it is fictitious, in both senses.

To accuse any person of deliberately withholding information for money is most distasteful. I suspect you will find that we have been privy to much information, all questions on the matter are quickly and honestly answered. Mystery has advised that further information will be included in the book - but this will be more of filling in the gaps and the nitty gritty of the matter. We already know the bigger picture.

If you "expect to be as unsatisfying as it is fictitious, in both senses", one can assume you will not be purchasing or reading the book as clearly in your opinion it would be worthless.
Can I ask why you would then say this. What benefit did it have to anyone. Was it simply to hurt Mysterys feelings, given she is reading this thread at the moment ? I can see no other reason.


This is starting to smell too. If Cherry's version is genuine, I see no reason why she should not offer her expert opinion on the other materials, both of which I have now read. This is, after all, a forum where stuff can be objectively analyzed.

I suggest that there is every reason why she does not offer her opinion. Have you considered what those reasons might be. Is it not her (or anyones) right to refuse to cast judgement on another. Is this what we are about?

I dont understand why do you consider that she "should" make comment at your request? I wonder who are you to demand such a thing? Does the fact that she has choosen not to make comment speak volumes in itself, specifically to her integrity - which for some reason you appear to have attacked.

Yes, this is a form where information can be objectively analyzed - However we can only discuss that which we have been presented with, we are in no position to force anyone to do or say anything or stand as judge and jury in respect of anyones opinons. That is just the way it is.

For correctness and clarity - "Cherry version" is in fact Tom Costello's version. As I understand Cherry is continuing with a promise made to Tom in the event of anything untoward happening. That being that humanity is made aware of the truth of Dulce. You seem to be minimizing and disregarding the actions of a very brave and wonderful man who by all accounts was doing the right thing by us as a species.


So, Cherry, what's really stopping you from commenting on it?

Not only are you suggesting that there is something hidden which is "stopping" her discussing the matter, but you accuse her of keeping secrets. Why do you speak with such confrontation?

There is every reason to beleive that Mystery is telling the truth. If you do not beleive that, then that is your absolute right.

There is little value coming onto this thread (or any other thread) with mindless insults, disparaging comments, writings of arrogance and demands for self serving answers.

At minimum good manners and respect are warranted. IMHO



Str8thinker offered a sincere apology and I accepted. Thank you for all your generous words, and for defending me. It touches my heart.
Thank you.

[Lord Sidious]

Str8thinker offered a sincere apology and I accepted. Thank you for all your generous words, and for defending me. It touches my heart.
Thank you.


One thing that I would point out to you, is that resistance to ideas is always high if you are on the mark.
There will always be people who resist what you have to say, don't let that stop you.
If there is no resistance, then you are either in the wrong place, the wrong time or with the wrong info.

[JDM]

Cherry,
Im happy you decided to come back. If is ok with you, I would like to continue asking questions and talking about this.

1) Can you describe in detail your encounter with the repton? How, where, or the purpose of the encounter?
If not I understand. There are a few people here that have had encounters with them. But they dont like to go into detail about it much. It seems to be a very personal experience.

2) Do you ever wish that you had never got involved with this material or Thomas? Do you think things would be "easier" had you never known?

3) Why did they choose Thomas for that specific job at Dulce? What made him "standout" to the people that put him there?

4) How long did Thomas stay underground or at the base at a time? I mean, did he leave everyday? like 9 to 5? or did he have to stay for weeks at a time?

5) Do the "Greys" also do genetic experiments?


Thank You for taking the time to come back and discus more with us.

[kooky]

Why don't a group of us get together and go in search of those boxes of photos! One person can be in charge of food, the other in charge of water, one in charge of map reading, one driver and i can.........i can be the supervisor. I can make sure you all work together like a team and co-ordinate the search properly. :biggrin1:

[Harley]

Hi Cherry!

I wanted to now welcome you to Project Avalon and thank you for coming here to share with us.

I also want to thank you for deciding to come back. What some of us are trying to do isn't easy in the first place, by no means, and every once-in-awhile you'll encounter times that just make you want to up and quit. And believe me when I say that I understand this feeling well. So whenever this occurs, I have learned to just take a deep breath or take a break from it and the problem usually resolves itself. But also, Avalon has a fantastic group of moderators who WILL take care of the problem if need be!

Lastly, and I just have to say it . . .

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Warmest Wishes,

Harley

[Mystery]

Cherry,
Im happy you decided to come back. If is ok with you, I would like to continue asking questions and talking about this.

1) Can you describe in detail your encounter with the repton? How, where, or the purpose of the encounter?
If not I understand. There are a few people here that have had encounters with them. But they dont like to go into detail about it much. It seems to be a very personal experience.

2) Do you ever wish that you had never got involved with this material or Thomas? Do you think things would be "easier" had you never known?

3) Why did they choose Thomas for that specific job at Dulce? What made him "standout" to the people that put him there?

4) How long did Thomas stay underground or at the base at a time? I mean, did he leave everyday? like 9 to 5? or did he have to stay for weeks at a time?

5) Do the "Greys" also do genetic experiments?


Thank You for taking the time to come back and discus more with us.

Thank you for the questions, but please me aware that it would be more fair to others if you go do a little research and find the answers in the comments witchy1 posted earlier or you visit my Facebook "NOTES" and read all my DULCE BASE comments. (you need not be a member to read my NOTES, but membership at Facebook is free) I choose not to be redundant and answer the same questions repeatedly.
By reading the basic questions you asked, you haven't read any of my NOTES.

In question 2 - you are asking me if I wish I never met my best friend - let me ask you this, do you have any friends? Do you regret ever meeting them? Of course not! One does not 'regret' meeting one's best friend. I've known him since 1961, and I will NEVER regret meeting that wonderful man.

On question 1. you asked the 'purpose' of that encounter. Sometimes one does not know 'why' something happens, and believe me, I am no different than you. Do you know what purpose why you met me? Is there a deeper meaning or reason in meeting me? No. It happened. It is not esoteric, it is Fate.

You mentioned that other people have had experience with reptons, and they don't go into detail either.
It is difficult for my to guess exact what 'details' you are expecting or hoping to understand. I suggest you visit my Facebook NOTES and look for an article "Reptilian Encounter in the Nevada Desert," perhaps more of the detail you seen can be found there.

Regarding question 3. please read my NOTES in Facebook for the answers. 'What made him stand out in his job.' That is a strange question, unless you are hoping to hire him. (not going to happen, the gentleman is assumed dead since 1991) His qualifications are found all over the world in many languages. Please check my NOTES in Facebook, and if you still have questions that have not been addressed in the past, I will gladly answer your questions. I am not being evasive or rude, I am being fair to other readers that have been read the Dulce Material since 1987, it becomes redundant so please understand, it is new to you, it is old news to others.
Many blessings to you, and to your loved ones.
Mystery

[Mystery]

Hi Cherry!

I wanted to now welcome you to Project Avalon and thank you for coming here to share with us.

I also want to thank you for deciding to come back. What some of us are trying to do isn't easy in the first place, by no means, and every once-in-awhile you'll encounter times that just make you want to up and quit. And believe me when I say that I understand this feeling well. So whenever this occurs, I have learned to just take a deep breath or take a break from it and the problem usually resolves itself. But also, Avalon has a fantastic group of moderators who WILL take care of the problem if need be!

Lastly, and I just have to say it . . .

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Warmest Wishes,

Harley

Hello Harley, Thank you for your warm welcome. In the future I will be careful to evaluate the words and try not to judge others choice of words - and hope others too will do the same. I too, tend to be honest in my point of views to the point of being blunt. I live by the Golden Rule. If there are moderaters on Avalon, how often to they check on offensive material? Or not acceptable material?
I thank you for your advice Harley, and it is deeply appreciated! Thank you!
Blessings Always
Mystery (thanks for the Birthday wishes!!)

[JDM]

Thanks Cherry,

I understand.

I have tried to view your facebook page, but I cant seem to access it without an account. I can see your picture but to look at anything further it says I have to make an account.

I will use someone else's account to view it.

Thanks

[Mystery]

Thanks Cherry,

I understand.

I have tried to view your facebook page, but I cant seem to access it without an account. I can see your picture but to look at anything further it says I have to make an account.

I will use someone else's account to view it.

Thanks

My apologies if you can't read it, it is set on easiest settings. Let me check on my Facebook settings and see if something is check off or something, it is supposed to be set on "Everyone" meaning, anyone can access my written material. I haven't had anyone else say they couldn't read it, and I've had many comments that they did read the material with no problems.

Unless there is a fluke in the system, or your own computer's settings, you should be able to read all reading material at my Facebook pages
I will check on this problem and get bcak to you.

[JDM]

Thanks Cherry,

I understand.

I have tried to view your facebook page, but I cant seem to access it without an account. I can see your picture but to look at anything further it says I have to make an account.

I will use someone else's account to view it.

Thanks

My apologies if you can't read it, it is set on easiest settings. Let me check on my Facebook settings and see if something is check off or something, it is supposed to be set on "Everyone" meaning, anyone can access my written material. I haven't had anyone else say they couldn't read it, and I've had many comments that they did read the material with no problems.

Unless there is a fluke in the system, or your own computer's settings, you should be able to read all reading material at my Facebook pages
I will check on this problem and get bcak to you.

Ok Thank You,

I dont understand eithier, I can see pages like CNN or Histrory Channels FB pages. i can even see some other researchers pages.
I think I used to be able to see them without having a FB account. Maybe FB has changed this or something.

If you dont see a problem, I will just ask to use one of my relatives accounts to see it.

No Problem.

EDIT: I can see it now. I was going to make a "fake" account to see it. Then I realized that I had made a "fake" account for the same reason about 2 years ago.

I know it sounds weird, but I just dont like to use FB or google because of there ties to the NSA, and CIA. and there Data mining operations. i use http://www.startpage.com/ for my search engine. The most secure and private search engine there is. (supposedly)

[Charlie Pecos]

Hi Cherry,

I just wanted to say thank you for the material you have provided, I have enjoyed reading it immensely.

I was very sad that you had left, but now that your back I'm happy again!

Have a very happy birthday!

with Love,

Charlie Pecos

[JDM]

I read through all the notes on Cherry's FB page.

There is quiet a bit there. I think there are a couple of newly posted letters that she added to her notes recently also.

I will be watching for more releases of material and notes.

As of now I really cant think of any questions because most were already covered.

Thanks
Cherry

[AlkaMyst]

This is really interesting, in case no one has seen this yet!!!


http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2468296/underground_cities_for_2012_survivors/

AlkaMyst

[Mystery]

Hi Cherry,

I just wanted to say thank you for the material you have provided, I have enjoyed reading it immensely.

I was very sad that you had left, but now that your back I'm happy again!



Have a very happy birthday!

with Love,

Charlie Pecos

I thank you Charlie, your words are most welcome. It is always encouraging to know that your message is read and appreciated, and your gentle way of expressing yourself reached my heart.
Thank you for the birthday wishes too, it is nice to be considered a friend, and missed when I am not there.
Many Blessings,
Cherry/Mystery

[Mystery]

This is really interesting, in case no one has seen this yet!!!


http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2468296/underground_cities_for_2012_survivors/

AlkaMyst

I am always pleased when people remember ad talk about Dulce Base. Phil did a lot of appearances and lectures, and he talked about the Dulce situation in all of his presenations. For that, I thank him. It is sad that he upset the wrong people, and it his tragic death should not forgotten.

[Gone002]

Are greys stronger than humans, could they take a beat down. im asking this because they always look kinda weak.

EDIT

Sorry another question, is there a way to block out there mental powers.

[Bill Ryan]

Str8thinker offered a sincere apology and I accepted. Thank you for all your generous words, and for defending me. It touches my heart.
Thank you.

Cherry, I'm delighted you're here - and I also thank Str8thinker for his integrity. He was kind enough to copy me his personal message to Cherry: it was the action of a real gentleman (if you will forgive my Englishness!)

What unites us all is that we are all trying to get at the truth. We all have pieces, and sometimes they don't appear to fit together. That's when it can feel frustrating.

I have quite a large box of bits that don't seem to fit too well - and I never throw them away. Who knows how and when they might become critically important.

I don't think I've said this on this thread (If I have, someone please let me know!) - but Kerry and I were given information privately three years ago, that we never acted upon, that correlates with the 'Buried Box' information known by Cherry. It's exactly the same location. I know precisely where this is.

That much was enough to persuade me to take Cherry's account very seriously and create an account for her here at Avalon - where she and we can work together to figure out the truth between us.

All best wishes, Bill

[Mystery]

Str8thinker offered a sincere apology and I accepted. Thank you for all your generous words, and for defending me. It touches my heart.
Thank you.

Cherry, I'm delighted you're here - and I also thank Str8thinker for his integrity. He was kind enough to copy me his personal message to Cherry: it was the action of a real gentleman (if you will forgive my Englishness!)

What unites us all is that we are all trying to get at the truth. We all have pieces, and sometimes they don't appear to fit together. That's when it can feel frustrating.

I have quite a large box of bits that don't seem to fit too well - and I never throw them away. Who knows how and when they might become critically important.

I don't think I've said this on this thread (If I have, someone please let me know!) - but Kerry and I were given information privately three years ago, that we never acted upon, that correlates with the 'Buried Box' information known by Cherry. It's exactly the same location. I know precisely where this is.

That much was enough to persuade me to take Cherry's account very seriously and create an account for her here at Avalon - where she and we can work together to figure out the truth between us.

All best wishes, Bill

I completely agree that Str8thinker acted like a gentleman, after he discovered he was mistaken, he corrected that mistake and his sincere apology was gratefully accepted. His words as the words true gentleman. I am so happy to learn that you have copies of the material so there are no mistaking. Thank you!

Thank you Bill for giving me the opportunity to publically thank you for your kindness in opening an account for me, and making me feel welcome, mere words can't express how much that means to me - thank you and Kerry for your generous act and help. It is very appreciated!

Bill, It is true that you do know the mountain in question, and the location in Arizona, the box is still waiting for the right man (or woman) to uncover this vital information.
Two mutual friends, as well of my husband Bill and I attempted to retrieve the box, but since I suffer from a bad back (a broken back from a car wreck) I was unable to reach the top and show the exact location. My friends know the area, and although they tried several other times to reach the correct location, the box is still in the ground. This mountain is big, with rough terrain, boulders the size of houses, trees and bushes have grown over the hiding place of the box. Tom and I buried that box in the arly 1980s, and in that time, everthing keeps growing - finding that box wouldn't be an easy to spot, even though there are strong landmarks that I recognise right away, it is not easy to describe a rough and wild area. I am getting older every year, I really doubt I could climb that mountain now in my advancing age.

I have several file cabinets crammed with UFO articles, letters and newsclippings, and like you Bill, I won't part with the material. I wonder what will happen to all that material when I die? Maybe I can find an UFO museum or someone that freely shares information and transfer that material before it is too late. Any suffestions?
Again I offer many thanks!
Mystery

[witchy1]

Hi Mystery, I can only imagine the wealth of information you have. My simple suggestion would be to digitize it - scan it all to your hard drive and make had copies via CD's and sent to people you trust. Also once its on your hard drive create a space on the net for it all. I'm a bit of a techno idiot, so cant even begin to understand how this happens. But perhaps some kind soul on Avalon may be in a positon to help if you needed assistance. I guess the hard part would be scanning it all.

My questions for today if I may.

What do you consider the purpose behind the genetic experimentations at Dulce is i.e. what do you beleive they tryng to ultimately achieve and how many eons will it take to get to the end of it if indeed there is an end in sight. How long have they been doing this?

In a response to one of your readers on fb I recall you alluded to what they do with the victims at Dulce. I wonder if you could expand on this specifically whereby each day a human gets lighter and lighter until such time as there is but a shell left?

Do the Reptons have a "soul" the same as ours or similar? Is this what makes us attractive to them or is it perhaps our DNA or perhaps our emotions and free spirits? (why dont they pick on another interplanetary species - LOL) Are we that unique in the scheme of things that no other species in the universe has whatever we have??

Do you believe that we (humans) were originally a genetic mutation created by the Reptons and that there are in effect different "types" of humans living on the planet. If so what might be the distinction between them?

I have many many questions Mystery, but do understand your position. I appeciate any informaton at all that you are prepared to share with us at Avalon

Love and light
Witchy

[Lord Sidious]

Hi Mystery, I can only imagine the wealth of information you have. My simple suggestion would be to digitize it - scan it all to your hard drive and make had copies via CD's and sent to people you trust. Also once its on your hard drive create a space on the net for it all. I'm a bit of a techno idiot, so cant even begin to understand how this happens. But perhaps some kind soul on Avalon may be in a positon to help if you needed assistance. I guess the hard part would be scanning it all.

My questions for today if I may.

What do you consider the purpose behind the genetic experimentations at Dulce is i.e. what do you beleive they tryng to ultimately achieve and how many eons will it take to get to the end of it if indeed there is an end in sight. How long have they been doing this?

In a response to one of your readers on fb I recall you alluded to what they do with the victims at Dulce. I wonder if you could expand on this specifically whereby each day a human gets lighter and lighter until such time as there is but a shell left?

Do the Reptons have a "soul" the same as ours or similar? Is this what makes us attractive to them or is it perhaps our DNA or perhaps our emotions and free spirits? (why dont they pick on another interplanetary species - LOL) Are we that unique in the scheme of things that no other species in the universe has whatever we have??

Do you believe that we (humans) were originally a genetic mutation created by the Reptons and that there are in effect different "types" of humans living on the planet. If so what might be the distinction between them?

I have many many questions Mystery, but do understand your position. I appeciate any informaton at all that you are prepared to share with us at Avalon

Love and light
Witchy

That is an excellent idea Witchy.
I will go one further, not only do you digitise the info, you turn it into torrents and put it up on the net.

[Lifebringer]

Why all the demonology flicking. If I wanted to follow a cult, there are plenty of them out there. Why do you feel you have to use a valued title, to trick others into you display of negativity?

Just saying, it's so negative, I didn't feel the need to comment on your reply button. That should tell you something, eh?

[witchy1]

Hi Lifebringer, I dont understand your post would you mind explaining it a bit futher please. What is demonology flicking? Where is the cult? Who is tricking others into displaying negativity? Do you have something positive to add to the discussion?

Apologies in advance if I have misunderstood - your post is not clear. If I could suggest that if whatever you are alluding to is an attack or confrontation on any one person or their questions or thoughts, please pm the person directly so as not to incite negativity that could derail the thread. Again I am not certain of the meaning of what you have written, so perhaps clarity is required.

[Strat]

Thank you Mystery for all of this information. I have researched this quite a bit, though I haven't read your notes, so I'll refrain from asking questions till I've read up on your material.

To everyone that doesn't have a Facebook: I never had one either, I just made one. I used my screen name and made an account. If you don't want to make an account, but want to view Mystery's notes, PM me and I'll send you the password, you can use the account I just made. Just please be mature. Don't go around pissing people off and having the account banned. Also don't change the email, or send garbage to my email address. Use this as a tool for knowledge.

[Mystery]

Hello Witchy
I understand your idea of scanning the information is a very good idea, and I have though about that myself. However, the pure volume stops me cold. I am one elderly lady, with thousands and thousands of articles, letters, documents and related material with one laptop, two hands, and not enough time to everything I every one hopes I can do. I couldn't complete one file cabinet in my life time if I started today and worked eight hours a day. I am a slow lady. I admit that, gladly. But I have seven file cabinets all crammed to overflowing, plus many boxes in storage. The idea of me attempting to turn them into disk or whatever online overwhelming me. It won't happen. But thank you for the idea, it is a great concept if I had the capabilities.

1. "What do you consider the purpose behind the genetic experimentation at Dulce is i.e. what do you believe they trying to ultimately achieve and how many eons will it take to get to the end of it if indeed there is an end in sight. How long have they been doing this?"

Answer:
Hmm. The purpose of the genetic experiments - I wish I could give you an answer that would solve all the questions, but all I can do is offer my opinion, which I 'borrowed' from Tom Castello - (PLEASE be aware this in my opinion, not a fact) according to Tom, the Dracon are attempting to the create ultimate warriors for their expected war. They will hold this war on the surface of Earth - rather or not human soldiers will participate in this alleged war, I do not know, but Tom did think the military are training highly trained soldiers world wide for this war. How long have this been going on? I have seen documents that date 1933, and I know one paper did mention the relocation of repton forces to the western USA - as well as other countries (that paper mentions "A.Sp. Aus." - Alice Springs Australia?) during black outs in WWII. I suspect the need for the hybrid warriors began in or just before the 1933 date. (Again, that is my opinion, and NOT a fact)

2. "In a response to one of your readers on fb (Facebook) I recall you alluded to what they do with the victims at Dulce. I wonder if you could expand on this specifically whereby each day a human gets lighter and lighter until such time as there is but a shell left?"

Answer:
I can't really much expand, I can just attempt to explain that there is a huge "chamber" that reaches both the fifth and sixth levels at Dulce. The devise is known as the Atomic Generator Impulser, and in this chamber they transfer atoms from the human to the replican (clone). In the case of a human donating atoms to a replican (clone) the atoms are 'borrowed' from the entire body, brain and organs first, then to the rest of the body, so after a few sessions, the human body weighs less because the human body has less of it's atoms. Just one or two sessions and the human body functions normally, but as the more of the atomic body are borrowed, the weakened human body becomes a weaker, shadow of it's original form. After a five or six sessions the once brilliant. It is logical, if you keep 'borrowing' the atoms, after a while the original body is too weak to stand alone, while the replican becomes stronger and able to alone.

3. A. "Do the Reptons have a "soul" the same as ours or similar? Is this what makes us attractive to them or is it perhaps our DNA or perhaps our emotions and free spirits? (why font they pick on another interplanetary species - LOL) Are we that unique in the scheme of things that no other species in the universe has whatever we have??"
B. "Do you believe that we (humans) were originally a genetic mutation created by the Reptons and that there are in effect different "types" of humans living on the planet. If so what might be the distinction between them?"

Answer:
A. This is the type of question that makes me wish I had the brain of Stephen Hawking. People with more brain power than I will ever own, have struggled with that question. So all I can do is relay the information I have and hope you understand that this is my opinion, based of the information provided from Tom. The Dracon and reptons do have souls, and they worship their deity. They are similar to us in that aspect, but their religious beliefs are a little different from us and their religious rites include eating rites. (I always wonder if it is similar to the human rite of sacrament?)
B. I do not want to offend anyone's religious belief, but according to the Dracon, they claim they created human race, with the assistance that their "Elder Brother.' (the Lord God of the old testament) That is why they have a strong interest in the human race.

[Mystery]

Thank you Mystery for all of this information. I have researched this quite a bit, though I haven't read your notes, so I'll refrain from asking questions till I've read up on your material.

To everyone that doesn't have a Facebook: I never had one either, I just made one. I used my screen name and made an account. If you don't want to make an account, but want to view Mystery's notes, PM me and I'll send you the password, you can use the account I just made. Just please be mature. Don't go around pissing people off and having the account banned. Also don't change the email, or send garbage to my email address. Use this as a tool for knowledge.

Thank you for reading any of the Dulce material, and I am pleased you will be reading my Notes. It is deeply appreciated!
I highly suggest you read the rules for Facebook before you send your passwords - you might be in violation to share your account. YOU will be responsible if someone else accesses someone elses account. I remind everyone that starting a Facebook account is VERY simple and it is free.

[witchy1]

Last question today.......... do the Reptons always tell the truth, or are they know to tell untruths :-)

Thank you for your response above Mystery. Just trying to fit the pieces together:biggrin:

[ThePythonicCow]

Two mutual friends, as well of my husband Bill and I attempted to retrieve the box, but since I suffer from a bad back (a broken back from a car wreck) I was unable to reach the top and show the exact location.

Just a weird idea -- perhaps a couple of strong people with a live video camera could climb the mountain, while you guided from below?

[Mystery]

Two mutual friends, as well of my husband Bill and I attempted to retrieve the box, but since I suffer from a bad back (a broken back from a car wreck) I was unable to reach the top and show the exact location.

Just a weird idea -- perhaps a couple of strong people with a live video camera could climb the mountain, while you guided from below?

It is not as bad an idea, but still you must remeber that we are talking about roughly 30 years of shrubs and trees have changed the scene drastically since the last time I walked there. It wouldn't find it in the first five minutes either. Nature as great at hiding things. It is not that I am not willing, but you try to visit a place you haven't seen in nearly thirty years only allow cameras for your eyes, and you can be sure the problem would be obvious. It would be very difficult, at least.

[Mystery]

Last question today.......... do the Reptons always tell the truth, or are they know to tell untruths :-)

Thank you for your response above Mystery. Just trying to fit the pieces together:biggrin:

The reptons can avoid the truth if they must, but they are not like the human race. They loathe lies, but in the last weeks the reptons that were in the resistance did bend the truth to protect others. A piece of advice - do not try hard to find the missing pieces, because if you do put those put those jugsaw pieces together, you will be in danger. But for a clue to help you find the truth - look for the obscure fantastic truth, not for the obvious. Listen carefully -look for the fantastic, not for what you expect.

[ThePythonicCow]

It would be very difficult, at least. Yes, I've no doubt you're right on that.

[JDM]

Cherry,

From your research,
What are your personal views on the greys?

The ones that arent in league with the dracons?

Their agenda, purpose, the different species?

There is a mass of information out there on them. Im just wondering what your personal beliefs are about them.

Thanks
JDM

[Mystery]

Cherry,

From your research,
What are your personal views on the greys?

The ones that arent in league with the dracons?

Their agenda, purpose, the different species?

There is a mass of information out there on them. Im just wondering what your personal beliefs are about them.

Thanks
JDM

My personal views of the greys - there are different greys, and they are very different in their attitude, mores or work ethics. My first experience with greys - that I fully recall - was in 1963, and these greys were spiritual, gentle and considerate. Their eyes were fascinating, elongated and the color of gold, the iris of their eyes flickered as if they were alive. They were intelligent and helpful to me.
Some greys are mere walking computers with no true intelligence of their own. Some are just drones, just created beings with hybrid artificial intelligence.
The taller greys with noses, are not like the little greys, they are filled with cunning and malice.

Are they in league with the Dracons? The created little greys are created by the dracons and controlled by the dracons. - the greys I met in 1963 are not from this planet, like the large nosed greys.

What can I say - they are here, there are thousands of them, you do not see them, but they see you. They can appear or not be seen at will. They control several dimensions. So when you get that creepy feeling that someone is looking at you - you may not be alone.

[JDM]

Thanks Cherry,

Another question,
Do you think that the dulce base will ever be exposed in the main stream for what it really is and what is taking place down there?

I know you and others are trying to do this.
but many will not or do not believe.

[AlkaMyst]

Mystery

I am always pleased when people remember ad talk about Dulce Base. Phil did a lot of appearances and lectures, and he talked about the Dulce situation in all of his presenations. For that, I thank him. It is sad that he upset the wrong people, and it his tragic death should not forgotten.

Thank you Mystery, This subject really tickles my appetite for more information and I look forward to learning lots of stuff from your vast knowledge on the subject! :thank_you2:

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

[Neal]

Hi Mystery/Cherry,

Thank you for coming to Avalon to answer questions and provide knowledge. I greatly appreciate what you have done so far and look forward to the future.

RE: scanning those documents, there are some fast scanners you can purchase that would make those cabinets and boxes a lot easier to tackle. Fujitsu ScanSnap S1500 PA03586-B005 CCD 600 x 600 dpi Sheet-Fed Duplex Scanner (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16838115052) is a great example. I have one myself -- it scans 20 pages per minute (front and back simultaneously) and auto corrects the orientation of the scan so you don't need to put the document perfectly straight. The only downside is it is slightly expensive at $450, but is the best scanner I have ever had the pleasure of using.

Much love and thanks.

[Mystery]

Thanks Cherry,

Another question,
Do you think that the dulce base will ever be exposed in the main stream for what it really is and what is taking place down there?

I know you and others are trying to do this.
but many will not or do not believe.

I live in Las Vegas just a few miles from the famed Area 51 or Dreamland - we see things that are incredible, and we (the locals) did know things were far from standard business. It took years of hard effort, but finally the government admitted - on the record - that Area 51 is a real base and part of it is underground. The same thing will happen for Dulce Base. Some day they will admit it is a real base - but it too will be a small victory. Aside from for the fact that Area 51 has been recognised as a real base, nothing changed. No one can see the place, you are not allowed to discuss your work there, and you can be arrested for touching one inch over the line of the military base. It will be the same in Dulce Base. I know the name, everyone knows the name, but that doesn't help much. Even it today the headlines screamed that "Dulce Base Exposed!" nothing would change. I want to place closed... not just acknowledged.

I already know what is going on, and it is REAL, it is not just a 'story,' real people are abused, captured, and killed and not even have the saving grace of having their soul set free. Since I DO know, and MANY OTHERS know it is real and know what is going on every day of the year - so you think the government would admit to knowngly allow?? Most of the government workers do not know what is going on - Dulce Base is a Black Operation - it is so secret that few know it exits. There a fake "colonel" that claims he worked at Dulce and that he knew all about Dulce Base. He claims Tom Castello didn't work there.
If he had ANY kind of clearance he should also knows his clearance was just a standard "Q Clearance." He should know of the "Need To Know" rule, and he didn't need to know anything. Tom Castello's clearance was many levels higher than the "colonels" standard basic top secret Q clearnace. Forgive me but "whoopie doo." That little "colonel" has a large ego and not much else.
With fakes with puffed egos all over the place, what is the chance for one woman hoping to exposing this underground base? All I can do is hope and pray for guidance and answers - hope for friends to help - and hope that some people DO SEE THE TRUTH when they see it.

[Mystery]

Hi Mystery/Cherry,

Thank you for coming to Avalon to answer questions and provide knowledge. I greatly appreciate what you have done so far and look forward to the future.

RE: scanning those documents, there are some fast scanners you can purchase that would make those cabinets and boxes a lot easier to tackle. Fujitsu ScanSnap S1500 PA03586-B005 CCD 600 x 600 dpi Sheet-Fed Duplex Scanner (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16838115052) is a great example. I have one myself -- it scans 20 pages per minute (front and back simultaneously) and auto corrects the orientation of the scan so you don't need to put the document perfectly straight. The only downside is it is slightly expensive at $450, but is the best scanner I have ever had the pleasure of using.

Much love and thanks.

THANK YOU so much for your helpful information! I will make sure my hubby sees this too. We are in the market for a new scanner and a new printer, as as always, there are no many to choose from it become a chore to choose among them. MANY thanks for helping!!!
Cherry/Mystery

[Butterfli13]

Hello, Mystery... and welcome!
I must say, this subject fascinates me. I applaude you for coming forward, and giving us the chance to ask questions.
I'm awaiting approval per facebook, I would like to read the notes before asking any questions, as they may be answered there.

Sending Love, Light, & Balance :)

[witchy1]

Hi Mystery, do you believe that the Reptons aspire to attain enlightenment. By this I mean raising of their awareness of the power of one - being stilll of mind and trying to be at one with the creator that lives within? I suspect this falls into the taboo spiritual things, but you never know.

[Mystery]

Hi Mystery, do you believe that the Reptons aspire to attain enlightenment. By this I mean raising of their awareness of the power of one - being stilll of mind and trying to be at one with the creator that lives within? I suspect this falls into the taboo spiritual things, but you never know.

That is an excellent and well formed question, however I do not the answer you seek. I am sorry. Any answer I offer would come strictly a guess, and I don't mind offer opinion with most things, but we are talking about their immortal soul. They claim they have awareness of soul, you can guess from their.

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Hello, Mystery... and welcome!
I must say, this subject fascinates me. I applaude you for coming forward, and giving us the chance to ask questions.
I'm awaiting approval per facebook, I would like to read the notes before asking any questions, as they may be answered there.

Sending Love, Light, & Balance :)

Thank you so much for your comforting words - they mean a LOT to me.
Good luck on Facebook! I hope to see you there.
Many blessings
Mystery

[kinerkid]

Hi Mystery,

Thanks so much for your contribution on this thread. A question if I may: What or who, in your opinion, do the Dracons intend to engage in battle?

[Mystery]

Hi Mystery,

Thanks so much for your contribution on this thread. A question if I may: What or who, in your opinion, do the Dracons intend to engage in battle?

It would be strictly my opinion - and not something that Tom Castello mentioned - but my guess is the Dracon plans to fight against their Elder Brother. I do not mean to offend anyone's religion, and forgive me but their Elder Brother in the ancient Hebrew langiage as also known as the Serpent King, Jehovah.
So to connect the dots - the Dracon will fight against to God. Like I pointed out - that is my opinion, not fact.

[witchy1]

Hi Mystery (me again). I trust your fingers are not worked to the bone :-) I have some questions about blood lines of the Reptons / Dracons, and our own

In post #156 you spoke about them tracking rare blood types and DNA types such as O-ve.
I wonder if you would be happy to expand on this a bit. Is it all Rh-ve types that they track, and do you know specifically what DNA types they track - which I guess what could be perceived as the similarities between the 2 races - might this show as eye colour, hair colour, cervial ribs perhaps even flat feet (lol)

I noticed from your fb that you yourself have a rare blood type? Do you think you may have been tracked as well. I see that you received this from a very interesting close relative who was the founder of the Golden Dawn. Would you be happy sharing any of this information with Avalon?

I understand that you may have embarked on a study of the Dracon / Repton blood lines and I pause to consider any conclusions that you may have made from this study. Again would you be prepared to provide us with any conclusions that you have made, from what must have been a difficult study?

If they are interbreeding (not sure if this still occurs, but I have read awful stories of forced mating, so assume it continues? I would have thought they think us repulsive and not fit for this sort of thing?) would the original lines be somehwat diluted now or are there full blooded beings still around? Are they trying to track their own so to speak and if so for what purpose.

Maybe I should give someone else a turn;)

[sdafnom]

Hello Cherry,

I'd like to offer an oversimplified theory for your review:
(Based on the fact that you possess a wider view/knowledge, beyond Dulce (Golden Dawn, Sitchin, Blavatsky...)

Elder Brother -> The light bearer / Fallen angel -> He who fallen from the sky.
Reptons -> The order of Archangels / Angels
Little Greys - > Elves

In every legend/myth of creation, someone defies hierarchy/orders, (Prometheus, Enki, serpent, etc) and gives something very special/forbidden to the human.
I don't know if this applies to one or all three levels I describe below:

1)
Human -> Created by "Reptons" - Intended to have: No self-awareness, merely workers.
But since the "human" was a very special project, instead of just an AI machine, a portion of the divine substance was injected into the new creation, to be utilized later, after the experiment (or the human race) has advanced enough to handle its own power.

2)
Everything is going according to plan, but (one or some of) the creator(s) are so in love with their creation, that they decide to expedite the experiment: Hence the serpent offered the fruit of knowledge. Now the human is aware that, he is more that flesh and bones, but he has not enough information to reunite with its higher self. Drown in his own confusion human becomes unstable enough to live within the organized society of his creators (Eden). He is not destroyed, rather kicked out, and if he makes it on its own, good, else...

3)
Now either the council (or those who expedited the experiment), decide to provide a little help (inside info) to the humans now out on the surface.
They provided tools and some knowledge, a fighting chance if you will, in order for the human race to survive in the new environment, and maybe to achieve its long term goal.
No further interference was decided.***

4)
Some advance beings saw this as an opportunity to rule the human race, use them as slaves, so using their advantages, they posed as Gods, falsifying history and use humans for their own agendas. Those could be from either the original creators or some other race (ex large greys).


*** Another possible scenario (which relates to 4) includes an internal battle with the original creators resulting their departure from earth, leaving behind lower-level EBEs...

This is one of the many theories that spin in my head daily.
Does it make any sense?
Anything you can point out that could lead me somewhere? anybody?

Thank you for your patience.

Stavros

[witchy1]

Elder Brother -> The light bearer / Fallen angel -> He who fallen from the sky.
Reptons -> The order of Archangels / Angels
Little Greys - > Elves

Hi sdafnom, looks like you have put a lot of thought into this? I personally preferred to see the elder brother as the creator much as we do. The reptons / Dracons as being but another species on our beautiful planet - on the same level as us (even tho they see us as lesser beings). The little grays IMHO are of 2 types either little robots built by the Reptons / Dracons or thier own species. Both of which are totally controlled by the Rep/Drac species.

With the creation of the "human", and I dont think we were necessarily created by Reptons / Dracons, but as a result of interbreeding (or genetic mutation) by them there is a specific and now diluted "blood-line" left insitu from this time. Those decendants today know about it and consider themselves to be the rulers of the planet due to this factor. They know their limitations and secretly acknowledge that we have the true power, this is why they keep us caged and controlled - so we do not reach or search for our true potential

So in essence I beleive that there is a greater power on the planet (that resides in us all) and that involves us becoming enlightened and being at one with the creator God. It is this that makes us human and able to connect to the one almighty that they cannot. They have access to the darker side, but not the lighter side. What we need to do is realise our true path and connect. Many of the great mystics sages and masters have acheived this state.

(I also think its about how we vibrate in the cosmos and there is much learning to be done about how we control this vibration.)
Does this make sense???

Of course I could also be well of the beaten path :-)
W

[Mystery]

Hi Mystery (me again). I trust your fingers are not worked to the bone :-) I have some questions about blood lines of the Reptons / Dracons, and our own

In post #156 you spoke about them tracking rare blood types and DNA types such as O-ve.
I wonder if you would be happy to expand on this a bit. Is it all Rh-ve types that they track, and do you know specifically what DNA types they track - which I guess what could be perceived as the similarities between the 2 races - might this show as eye colour, hair colour, cervial ribs perhaps even flat feet (lol)

I noticed from your fb that you yourself have a rare blood type? Do you think you may have been tracked as well. I see that you received this from a very interesting close relative who was the founder of the Golden Dawn. Would you be happy sharing any of this information with Avalon?

I understand that you may have embarked on a study of the Dracon / Repton blood lines and I pause to consider any conclusions that you may have made from this study. Again would you be prepared to provide us with any conclusions that you have made, from what must have been a difficult study?

If they are interbreeding (not sure if this still occurs, but I have read awful stories of forced mating, so assume it continues? I would have thought they think us repulsive and not fit for this sort of thing?) would the original lines be somehwat diluted now or are there full blooded beings still around? Are they trying to track their own so to speak and if so for what purpose.

Maybe I should give someone else a turn;)

You asked if I would expand the information regarding bloodlines. I am not the person you want to talk about on that subject. My knowledge in that department is quite limited. I can tell you that my own blood type is AB+ a rare blood found by only 3% of the world. It doesn't make me special, it just means that is my bloodline is shared with a few esoteric of my ancestors.

My great-uncle - William Wynn Westcott was one of the founders of the Golden Dawn. (genealogy: Me, My father, Charles Westcott, and his mother Mae Westcott, her uncle W.W. Westcott) Other ancestors have been tracked by the greys, I know they look for a perfect match as their creator - the Dracon. I am not prepared to uncover the results of my studies, but then I am finished with the studies, IK will share that information with you Witchy - and the other readers here on Avalon.

Meanwhile, although he s very angry with me for daring to go public on my Dulce Base, one of a good source of information about the blood connections would be John Rhodes. He is an intelligent man and researches the information he publishes. Once my student, I still hold John in high regard.

[witchy1]

Thank you Mystery, I had not realized your research was yet to be completed and appreciate your kind offer to share the outcomes with us.

I think this is John Rhodes website for anyone interested: http://www.reptoids.com/

W

[Redtailhawk]

Hi all, I have obtained access to Cherry's notes as left in letters to her by Tom.

Very, very very good work. THANK YOU.

Folks, I believe this is important. Let's take a close look at this material.

Witchy1, please extend our warm regards to Cherry and tell her that Kerry and I would love to talk with her sometime about all this. We both believe it's an authentic and important story, and some of it (about the buried box) matches information we ourselves received three years ago, but never acted on as we were strongly discouraged from doing so (for both security and heavy-duty logistical reasons).

Hi Bill,

I am just now reviewing this material, yet I am curious about one thing.

Cherry said she is the ONLY one who knows the whereabouts of the box, so how would the person whom informed you and Kerry about the location of the box know? Cherry buried the box with Tom right? Perhaps Tom told some one who told you two?

Thanks for any insight,
Maria


PS: Additional quote by Mystery: "Three people knew the exact location - Tom, my son Marc, and me. Tom died in 1991 in an 7,5 earthquake in Costa Rica, my only son - Marc died in 1999. I alone knows the exact location. Several people have tried to find the box, but the box is still underground the ground. We are not talking about an easy mountain climb - but an incredible climb, hand over hand rough mountain. A can't climb like that these days."

[Lord Sidious]

Hi all, I have obtained access to Cherry's notes as left in letters to her by Tom.

Very, very very good work. THANK YOU.

Folks, I believe this is important. Let's take a close look at this material.

Witchy1, please extend our warm regards to Cherry and tell her that Kerry and I would love to talk with her sometime about all this. We both believe it's an authentic and important story, and some of it (about the buried box) matches information we ourselves received three years ago, but never acted on as we were strongly discouraged from doing so (for both security and heavy-duty logistical reasons).

Hi Bill,

I am just now reviewing this material, yet I am curious about one thing.

Cherry said she is the ONLY one who knows the whereabouts of the box, so how would the person whom informed you and Kerry about the location of the box know? Cherry buried the box with Tom right? Perhaps Tom told some one who told you two?

Thanks for any insight,
Maria

Maria, I would suspect that the security issues Bill spoke of would be the answer to your question.
And it seems that you already figured that out.

[loveandgratitude]

Be careful watching these videos.......definitely something strang here... subliminal undertones going on. I could not watch these for very long.....my internal alarm went off. Maybe a good idea to take them off or a warning about these videos.

[DianeKJ]

Yes, most of us agree with this. I was only able to watch a couple minutes before immediately stopping it. The discussion has moved away from the videos themselves. Someone else has suggested we either remove the videos or give a big warning above it. I think that is a wise idea!

[JDM]

Hey Cherry,
Thanks for all the information.

I am curious as to how your husband Bill feels about you deciding to go public and share your personal story?
And what are his thoughts about the Dulce material and Tom?

Will he help you in "putting all this information out" (scanning documents, cataloging and saving it to a secure place)?

Has Bill Ryan offered you any advice or assistance on how to go about doing this yet?

if the questions about your husband Bill are to personal I understand.

Thanks again for taking the time to share with us.
Your input is most valued and respected by me and other members.

[araucaria]

Dear Mystery
Thank you for your presence on this thread.
Regarding finding a location on this mountain, I was wondering if perhaps a wander round on Google Earth mightn't reveal some rough coordinates to help a video team working with GPS. Just a thought.

[slipknotted]

saw his stuff before i subscribed to him a while back then unscribed because it was some negative stuff coming out ......strange

[Mystery]

Hello Cherry,

I'd like to offer an oversimplified theory for your review:
(Based on the fact that you possess a wider view/knowledge, beyond Dulce (Golden Dawn, Sitchin, Blavatsky...)

Elder Brother -> The light bearer / Fallen angel -> He who fallen from the sky.
Reptons -> The order of Archangels / Angels
Little Greys - > Elves

In every legend/myth of creation, someone defies hierarchy/orders, (Prometheus, Enki, serpent, etc) and gives something very special/forbidden to the human.
I don't know if this applies to one or all three levels I describe below:

1)
Human -> Created by "Reptons" - Intended to have: No self-awareness, merely workers.
But since the "human" was a very special project, instead of just an AI machine, a portion of the divine substance was injected into the new creation, to be utilized later, after the experiment (or the human race) has advanced enough to handle its own power.

2)
Everything is going according to plan, but (one or some of) the creator(s) are so in love with their creation, that they decide to expedite the experiment: Hence the serpent offered the fruit of knowledge. Now the human is aware that, he is more that flesh and bones, but he has not enough information to reunite with its higher self. Drown in his own confusion human becomes unstable enough to live within the organized society of his creators (Eden). He is not destroyed, rather kicked out, and if he makes it on its own, good, else...

3)
Now either the council (or those who expedited the experiment), decide to provide a little help (inside info) to the humans now out on the surface.
They provided tools and some knowledge, a fighting chance if you will, in order for the human race to survive in the new environment, and maybe to achieve its long term goal.
No further interference was decided.***

4)
Some advance beings saw this as an opportunity to rule the human race, use them as slaves, so using their advantages, they posed as Gods, falsifying history and use humans for their own agendas. Those could be from either the original creators or some other race (ex large greys).


*** Another possible scenario (which relates to 4) includes an internal battle with the original creators resulting their departure from earth, leaving behind lower-level EBEs...

This is one of the many theories that spin in my head daily.
Does it make any sense?
Anything you can point out that could lead me somewhere? anybody?

Thank you for your patience.

Stavros

WOW. You certainly don't need my help with this information, you have been paying attention to the fascinating facts for years! You stated it so well that there is not much I would want to add to your clear outline. Does it make sense? YES! You are ahead of many researchers! Well done. Next time I have a problem with things not matching, I'll ask for your help!

[Mystery]

Hi all, I have obtained access to Cherry's notes as left in letters to her by Tom.

Very, very very good work. THANK YOU.

Folks, I believe this is important. Let's take a close look at this material.

Witchy1, please extend our warm regards to Cherry and tell her that Kerry and I would love to talk with her sometime about all this. We both believe it's an authentic and important story, and some of it (about the buried box) matches information we ourselves received three years ago, but never acted on as we were strongly discouraged from doing so (for both security and heavy-duty logistical reasons).

Hi Bill,

I am just now reviewing this material, yet I am curious about one thing.

Cherry said she is the ONLY one who knows the whereabouts of the box, so how would the person whom informed you and Kerry about the location of the box know? Cherry buried the box with Tom right? Perhaps Tom told some one who told you two?

Thanks for any insight,
Maria


PS: Additional quote by Mystery: "Three people knew the exact location - Tom, my son Marc, and me. Tom died in 1991 in an 7,5 earthquake in Costa Rica, my only son - Marc died in 1999. I alone knows the exact location. Several people have tried to find the box, but the box is still underground the ground. We are not talking about an easy mountain climb - but an incredible climb, hand over hand rough mountain. A can't climb like that these days."

Bill Ryan know more than he can discuss, trust me. When I say that "I alone, know the exact location" I mean that, Bill and our mutual friends know the area within yards of the of the buried box, but they haven't found the box. There are no metals in the box to help with a metal detector, so they could have literally stood on top of the box and didn't know it. Bill knows the mountain, and can arrive with in a few yards of the box - so when he says he knows exactly where the box is hidden - he is 100% CORRECT!

[Bill Ryan]

Hi all, I have obtained access to Cherry's notes as left in letters to her by Tom.

Very, very very good work. THANK YOU.

Folks, I believe this is important. Let's take a close look at this material.

Witchy1, please extend our warm regards to Cherry and tell her that Kerry and I would love to talk with her sometime about all this. We both believe it's an authentic and important story, and some of it (about the buried box) matches information we ourselves received three years ago, but never acted on as we were strongly discouraged from doing so (for both security and heavy-duty logistical reasons).

Hi Bill,

I am just now reviewing this material, yet I am curious about one thing.

Cherry said she is the ONLY one who knows the whereabouts of the box, so how would the person whom informed you and Kerry about the location of the box know? Cherry buried the box with Tom right? Perhaps Tom told some one who told you two?

Thanks for any insight,
Maria


PS: Additional quote by Mystery: "Three people knew the exact location - Tom, my son Marc, and me. Tom died in 1991 in an 7,5 earthquake in Costa Rica, my only son - Marc died in 1999. I alone knows the exact location. Several people have tried to find the box, but the box is still underground the ground. We are not talking about an easy mountain climb - but an incredible climb, hand over hand rough mountain. A can't climb like that these days."

Easily explained. :)

Cherry was there herself personally when the box was buried. She may well be able to go to the exact spot, and retrieve it quite easily.

Kerry and I were told exactly which mountaintop it was. We could in theory go straight there - and still have no idea where to start digging!

Note for clarity:

We do not intend to do this. In my personal opinion, it's likely that special forces have scoured the place long before now - certainly after Cherry published some details on her Facebook page.

With a chopper and high-tech metal detectors, they could find the thing in 45 minutes any time they wanted to. They could probably detect it by satellite. The odds on it still being there doesn't seem to me to be very high!

[Mystery]

Hey Cherry,
Thanks for all the information.

I am curious as to how your husband Bill feels about you deciding to go public and share your personal story?
And what are his thoughts about the Dulce material and Tom?

Will he help you in "putting all this information out" (scanning documents, cataloging and saving it to a secure place)?

Has Bill Ryan offered you any advice or assistance on how to go about doing this yet?

if the questions about your husband Bill are to personal I understand.

Thanks again for taking the time to share with us.
Your input is most valued and respected by me and other members.

My husband Bill supports me in everything I do, he always has, always will. He is very much like me, private and quiet. But if I ask for his help, he goes out of his way to assist me. He read this message - and smiled and said "just tell them that I support you in anything you want to do. That is the truth, and there is nothing else to say about it." We do everything together, and Bill always meets my friends. We talk about the different messages, the questions and as always - if I have a problem, he is the man I turn to for advice. He is a wonderful husband!

[Mystery]

Hi all, I have obtained access to Cherry's notes as left in letters to her by Tom.

Very, very very good work. THANK YOU.

Folks, I believe this is important. Let's take a close look at this material.

Witchy1, please extend our warm regards to Cherry and tell her that Kerry and I would love to talk with her sometime about all this. We both believe it's an authentic and important story, and some of it (about the buried box) matches information we ourselves received three years ago, but never acted on as we were strongly discouraged from doing so (for both security and heavy-duty logistical reasons).

Hi Bill,

I am just now reviewing this material, yet I am curious about one thing.

Cherry said she is the ONLY one who knows the whereabouts of the box, so how would the person whom informed you and Kerry about the location of the box know? Cherry buried the box with Tom right? Perhaps Tom told some one who told you two?

Thanks for any insight,
Maria


PS: Additional quote by Mystery: "Three people knew the exact location - Tom, my son Marc, and me. Tom died in 1991 in an 7,5 earthquake in Costa Rica, my only son - Marc died in 1999. I alone knows the exact location. Several people have tried to find the box, but the box is still underground the ground. We are not talking about an easy mountain climb - but an incredible climb, hand over hand rough mountain. A can't climb like that these days."

Easily explained. :)

Cherry was there herself personally when the box was buried. She may well be able to go to the exact spot, and retrieve it quite easily.

Kerry and I were told exactly which mountaintop it was. We could in theory go straight there - and still have no idea where to start digging!

Note for clarity:

We do not intend to do this. In my personal opinion, it's likely that special forces have scoured the place long before now - certainly after Cherry published some details on her Facebook page.

With a chopper and high-tech metal detectors, they could find the thing in 45 minutes any time they wanted to. They could probably detect it by satellite. The odds on it still being there doesn't seem to me to be very high!

Of course you are correct Bill, they could have uncovered the box from space. Two people, other than my hubby, were told the location and tried to find it. I've never mentioned which mountain in Arizona holds the box to anyone, except those two friends. But my two friends DID tell several friends. (as you know) the location. It is a relief to me - knowing that others know too. The responsibilty becomes awesome and worrisome when I had the knowledge, the location that fear - alone. It allows me to breathe freely knowing that I have did my best, I shared the information, others now know - rather or not the military or other groups have taken the box, still remains the same. If the military took the box, I would be pleased, knowing the dangerous weapon didn't fall into the wrong hands - that weapon - in the wrong hands - can control a lot of people, kill people with out leaving a trace. I like the idea that the military may have taken it. I would mourn the loss of the documents, but I would rejoice knowing that weapon would be safe!
Many thanks Bill, for all the help you have offer to me, and for the hope you just offered - that the box is gone!! THANKS!!!! I can breathe now!

[blake]

Hi again mystery

1) do you think the reptons would prefer it if we were not on this planet

2) Do you think if humans were not such a hostile species, that humans and reptons could all live in peace and mutually work together to build a better future for ourselves ?


thank you mystery

ANSWERS:
1. The Dracon race need and use humans, the do the same things they did during the Golden Ages - very much like they did when the age of the Garden of Eden - to till the ground and mine the earth. The Dracon already had his brethren and his sons he in their own image, but he didn't have servents, or laborer, to enjoy the world they created. (on the eighth day - Genesis 2:5 "for the Lord God had not cause it to rain uponon earth, and there was not a man to till the earth.: Genesis 2:7 "and the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his mostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.") Some things never change.

2. YES!! The reptons and the Dracon are not hostile, they taught the human race when they were kicked out of Eden (inside the Earth) - it the the repton that taught the human how to survive on the surface. There is no history of the reptilians destroying humans, just that they tolerated the humans violent nature. Through out history the reptons have been mentioned over and over, as helpers for the human race, not as warriors. But the human race is constant turmoil and war - yes - if the human would ever change their violent nature, this would be a wonderful world.

Hello Mystery,

I must have misundertood something. You write that humans are violent, and the reptiles are not? Perhpas it would be good if you defined what you mean as violent, becasue I would imagine the "nighmare corridors", where humans are placed after being kidnaped ,and experimented on, and who knows what other horrors, would be defined as the Reptilians as being violent?

Sincerely.
Mr. Davis
2/19/11

[PathWalker]

Take care to watch without the sound.
The sound contains many subliminal messages. In both videos.

[sdafnom]

Hello Cherry,

I'd like to offer an oversimplified theory for your review:
(Based on the fact that you possess a wider view/knowledge, beyond Dulce (Golden Dawn, Sitchin, Blavatsky...)

Elder Brother -> The light bearer / Fallen angel -> He who fallen from the sky.
Reptons -> The order of Archangels / Angels
Little Greys - > Elves

In every legend/myth of creation, someone defies hierarchy/orders, (Prometheus, Enki, serpent, etc) and gives something very special/forbidden to the human.
I don't know if this applies to one or all three levels I describe below:

1)
Human -> Created by "Reptons" - Intended to have: No self-awareness, merely workers.
But since the "human" was a very special project, instead of just an AI machine, a portion of the divine substance was injected into the new creation, to be utilized later, after the experiment (or the human race) has advanced enough to handle its own power.

2)
Everything is going according to plan, but (one or some of) the creator(s) are so in love with their creation, that they decide to expedite the experiment: Hence the serpent offered the fruit of knowledge. Now the human is aware that, he is more that flesh and bones, but he has not enough information to reunite with its higher self. Drown in his own confusion human becomes unstable enough to live within the organized society of his creators (Eden). He is not destroyed, rather kicked out, and if he makes it on its own, good, else...

3)
Now either the council (or those who expedited the experiment), decide to provide a little help (inside info) to the humans now out on the surface.
They provided tools and some knowledge, a fighting chance if you will, in order for the human race to survive in the new environment, and maybe to achieve its long term goal.
No further interference was decided.***

4)
Some advance beings saw this as an opportunity to rule the human race, use them as slaves, so using their advantages, they posed as Gods, falsifying history and use humans for their own agendas. Those could be from either the original creators or some other race (ex large greys).


*** Another possible scenario (which relates to 4) includes an internal battle with the original creators resulting their departure from earth, leaving behind lower-level EBEs...

This is one of the many theories that spin in my head daily.
Does it make any sense?
Anything you can point out that could lead me somewhere? anybody?

Thank you for your patience.

Stavros

WOW. You certainly don't need my help with this information, you have been paying attention to the fascinating facts for years! You stated it so well that there is not much I would want to add to your clear outline. Does it make sense? YES! You are ahead of many researchers! Well done. Next time I have a problem with things not matching, I'll ask for your help!

Dear Mystery,
Thank you for your kind words, although they do trouble me a little bit.
Of course I need your help, (any help), since everything in my head is just a hypothesis. No "hard facts" of any kind, at my disposal. (I'm not sure they are necessary after all)
Now you stated (warned people) in many cases that. digging deep into this stuff is quite dangerous.

I can only assume that, the reason for the absent of such warning, is the fact that I'm talking about a period, close to 100,000 years ago.
This is quite different that talking about a subject that occurred 50 years ago (ex Dulce).
(The other assumption, I rather not discuss here, involves me being quite an arse...)

Anyway your face is extremely familiar (fb photo) and I think is related to the GD history.

I'll keep going through the notes and hopefully I can ask a more specific question next time.

Wish you the best

Stavros

[Mystery]

Hi again mystery

1) do you think the reptons would prefer it if we were not on this planet

2) Do you think if humans were not such a hostile species, that humans and reptons could all live in peace and mutually work together to build a better future for ourselves ?


thank you mystery

ANSWERS:
1. The Dracon race need and use humans, the do the same things they did during the Golden Ages - very much like they did when the age of the Garden of Eden - to till the ground and mine the earth. The Dracon already had his brethren and his sons he in their own image, but he didn't have servents, or laborer, to enjoy the world they created. (on the eighth day - Genesis 2:5 "for the Lord God had not cause it to rain uponon earth, and there was not a man to till the earth.: Genesis 2:7 "and the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his mostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.") Some things never change.

2. YES!! The reptons and the Dracon are not hostile, they taught the human race when they were kicked out of Eden (inside the Earth) - it the the repton that taught the human how to survive on the surface. There is no history of the reptilians destroying humans, just that they tolerated the humans violent nature. Through out history the reptons have been mentioned over and over, as helpers for the human race, not as warriors. But the human race is constant turmoil and war - yes - if the human would ever change their violent nature, this would be a wonderful world.

Hello Mystery,

I must have misundertood something. You write that humans are violent, and the reptiles are not? Perhpas it would be good if you defined what you mean as violent, becasue I would imagine the "nighmare corridors", where humans are placed after being kidnaped ,and experimented on, and who knows what other horrors, would be defined as the Reptilians as being violent?

Sincerely.
Mr. Davis
2/19/11

Regarding the reptons violence in Nightmare Hall. I can understand your confusion, however, if you read my material you pointed out the humans violent traits with murdering their own children, their neighbors, and total strangers. The human race goes to war with their neighboring countries, they have done so for thousands of years. Perhaps you noticed I only mentioned that the reptons do not go in war with all these wars that alre always going on. Not once dd I say "the reptons are saints."

[blake]

Hi again mystery

1) do you think the reptons would prefer it if we were not on this planet

2) Do you think if humans were not such a hostile species, that humans and reptons could all live in peace and mutually work together to build a better future for ourselves ?


thank you mystery


ANSWERS:
1. The Dracon race need and use humans, the do the same things they did during the Golden Ages - very much like they did when the age of the Garden of Eden - to till the ground and mine the earth. The Dracon already had his brethren and his sons he in their own image, but he didn't have servents, or laborer, to enjoy the world they created. (on the eighth day - Genesis 2:5 "for the Lord God had not cause it to rain uponon earth, and there was not a man to till the earth.: Genesis 2:7 "and the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his mostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.") Some things never change.

2. YES!! The reptons and the Dracon are not hostile, they taught the human race when they were kicked out of Eden (inside the Earth) - it the the repton that taught the human how to survive on the surface. There is no history of the reptilians destroying humans, just that they tolerated the humans violent nature. Through out history the reptons have been mentioned over and over, as helpers for the human race, not as warriors. But the human race is constant turmoil and war - yes - if the human would ever change their violent nature, this would be a wonderful world.

Hello Mystery,

I must have misundertood something. You write that humans are violent, and the reptiles are not? Perhpas it would be good if you defined what you mean as violent, becasue I would imagine the "nighmare corridors", where humans are placed after being kidnaped ,and experimented on, and who knows what other horrors, would be defined as the Reptilians as being violent?

Sincerely.
Mr. Davis
2/19/11

Regarding the reptons violence in Nightmare Hall. I can understand your confusion, however, if you read my material you pointed out the humans violent traits with murdering their own children, their neighbors, and total strangers. The human race goes to war with their neighboring countries, they have done so for thousands of years. Perhaps you noticed I only mentioned that the reptons do not go in war with all these wars that alre always going on. Not once dd I say "the reptons are saints."

Thank you, Mystery, for the clarification. I thought the reptiles( reptons) were not in the sainthood circle. Are the reptons and the reptilians the same creature?
The other issuethat confuses me is why is it so dangerous to know certain information concerning them? What could be so important that they would kill a human for gaining a certain body of knowledge? Would that knowledge weaked their ability to function on earth? And Why does the origin of humankind seem to be such a guarded secret?
I do not go on Face Book, becasue it is even a deeper data mine for the collection of the data bases than most other areas of the net is. SO forgive me for not reading your material. If it were else where, I would surely read it. But I did read all of Witchy;s posts which I found very intriquing.

Sincerely,
Mr. Davs
2/20/11

[Mystery]

Hi again mystery

1) do you think the reptons would prefer it if we were not on this planet

2) Do you think if humans were not such a hostile species, that humans and reptons could all live in peace and mutually work together to build a better future for ourselves ?


thank you mystery


ANSWERS:
1. The Dracon race need and use humans, the do the same things they did during the Golden Ages - very much like they did when the age of the Garden of Eden - to till the ground and mine the earth. The Dracon already had his brethren and his sons he in their own image, but he didn't have servents, or laborer, to enjoy the world they created. (on the eighth day - Genesis 2:5 "for the Lord God had not cause it to rain uponon earth, and there was not a man to till the earth.: Genesis 2:7 "and the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his mostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.") Some things never change.

2. YES!! The reptons and the Dracon are not hostile, they taught the human race when they were kicked out of Eden (inside the Earth) - it the the repton that taught the human how to survive on the surface. There is no history of the reptilians destroying humans, just that they tolerated the humans violent nature. Through out history the reptons have been mentioned over and over, as helpers for the human race, not as warriors. But the human race is constant turmoil and war - yes - if the human would ever change their violent nature, this would be a wonderful world.

Hello Mystery,

I must have misundertood something. You write that humans are violent, and the reptiles are not? Perhpas it would be good if you defined what you mean as violent, becasue I would imagine the "nighmare corridors", where humans are placed after being kidnaped ,and experimented on, and who knows what other horrors, would be defined as the Reptilians as being violent?

Sincerely.
Mr. Davis
2/19/11

Regarding the reptons violence in Nightmare Hall. I can understand your confusion, however, if you read my material you pointed out the humans violent traits with murdering their own children, their neighbors, and total strangers. The human race goes to war with their neighboring countries, they have done so for thousands of years. Perhaps you noticed I only mentioned that the reptons do not go in war with all these wars that alre always going on. Not once dd I say "the reptons are saints."

Thank you, Mystery, for the clarification. I thought the reptiles( reptons) were not in the sainthood circle. Are the reptons and the reptilians the same creature?
The other issuethat confuses me is why is it so dangerous to know certain information concerning them? What could be so important that they would kill a human for gaining a certain body of knowledge? Would that knowledge weaked their ability to function on earth? And Why does the origin of humankind seem to be such a guarded secret?
I do not go on Face Book, becasue it is even a deeper data mine for the collection of the data bases than most other areas of the net is. SO forgive me for not reading your material. If it were else where, I would surely read it. But I did read all of Witchy;s posts which I found very intriquing.

Sincerely,
Mr. Davs
2/20/11

Excuse me not not answering your questions. I am not at liberty to discuss them.

[blake]

Hi again mystery

1) do you think the reptons would prefer it if we were not on this planet

2) Do you think if humans were not such a hostile species, that humans and reptons could all live in peace and mutually work together to build a better future for ourselves ?


thank you mystery


ANSWERS:
1. The Dracon race need and use humans, the do the same things they did during the Golden Ages - very much like they did when the age of the Garden of Eden - to till the ground and mine the earth. The Dracon already had his brethren and his sons he in their own image, but he didn't have servents, or laborer, to enjoy the world they created. (on the eighth day - Genesis 2:5 "for the Lord God had not cause it to rain uponon earth, and there was not a man to till the earth.: Genesis 2:7 "and the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his mostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.") Some things never change.

2. YES!! The reptons and the Dracon are not hostile, they taught the human race when they were kicked out of Eden (inside the Earth) - it the the repton that taught the human how to survive on the surface. There is no history of the reptilians destroying humans, just that they tolerated the humans violent nature. Through out history the reptons have been mentioned over and over, as helpers for the human race, not as warriors. But the human race is constant turmoil and war - yes - if the human would ever change their violent nature, this would be a wonderful world.

Hello Mystery,

I must have misundertood something. You write that humans are violent, and the reptiles are not? Perhpas it would be good if you defined what you mean as violent, becasue I would imagine the "nighmare corridors", where humans are placed after being kidnaped ,and experimented on, and who knows what other horrors, would be defined as the Reptilians as being violent?

Sincerely.
Mr. Davis
2/19/11

Regarding the reptons violence in Nightmare Hall. I can understand your confusion, however, if you read my material you pointed out the humans violent traits with murdering their own children, their neighbors, and total strangers. The human race goes to war with their neighboring countries, they have done so for thousands of years. Perhaps you noticed I only mentioned that the reptons do not go in war with all these wars that alre always going on. Not once dd I say "the reptons are saints."

Thank you, Mystery, for the clarification. I thought the reptiles( reptons) were not in the sainthood circle. Are the reptons and the reptilians the same creature?
The other issuethat confuses me is why is it so dangerous to know certain information concerning them? What could be so important that they would kill a human for gaining a certain body of knowledge? Would that knowledge weaked their ability to function on earth? And Why does the origin of humankind seem to be such a guarded secret?
I do not go on Face Book, becasue it is even a deeper data mine for the collection of the data bases than most other areas of the net is. SO forgive me for not reading your material. If it were else where, I would surely read it. But I did read all of Witchy;s posts which I found very intriquing.

Sincerely,
Mr. Davs
2/20/11

Excuse me not not answering your questions. I am not at liberty to discuss them.

Thank you, Mystery, for taking the time to read my questions and to let me know that you are not at liberty to answer my previous questions. Can you possibly comment more on the negative blood issue? Are humans with negatve blood more gentically connected to the reptilians than the Rh Postive humans are as claimed by some authors? You wrote they the Reptilians may track humans with negative blood but it is only those with positive bloods that end up in Dulce; is that becasue they will not harm those who are of their blood? What have the reptilians done for the humans that was positive over the past decade or so? Those humans who worked at Dulce, what blood type do they have or is that unimportant?

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
2/20/11

[blake]

Hello All and Mystery,

I am really puzzled by all the secretiveness. Mystery explained to me that she wasn't at liberty to answer my questions. Does anyone have an opinion on these questions that I asked her? Is this kind of like the tree of knowledge in the garden of eden? If anyne learns of this knowledge, they will be kicked out of the garden? I guess the rules still haven't changed? They are still protecting that tree!

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
2/20/11

[Redtailhawk]

Hello All and Mystery,

I am really puzzled by all the secretiveness. Mystery explained to me that she wasn't at liberty to answer my questions. Does anyone have an opinion on these questions that I asked her? Is this kind of like the tree of knowledge in the garden of eden? If anyne learns of this knowledge, they will be kicked out of the garden? I guess the rules still haven't changed? They are still protecting that tree!

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
2/20/11

Hi Blake,

I can add a little bit here. There does appear to be a connection with the negative blood type and the Repton and Dracon blood lines.

Purportedly they use the little greys to track "their" people who have the Dracon blood DNA.

There does seem to be certain genetic makeups that they are specifically looking for.

I hope that helps.

ps: Yes, the Reptoids are the same as the Reptilians I believe.

Maria

[Mystery]

Hello All and Mystery,

I am really puzzled by all the secretiveness. Mystery explained to me that she wasn't at liberty to answer my questions. Does anyone have an opinion on these questions that I asked her? Is this kind of like the tree of knowledge in the garden of eden? If anyne learns of this knowledge, they will be kicked out of the garden? I guess the rules still haven't changed? They are still protecting that tree!

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
2/20/11

Hi Blake,

I can add a little bit here. There does appear to be a connection with the negative blood type and the Repton and Dracon blood lines.

Purportedly they use the little greys to track "their" people who have the Dracon blood DNA.

There does seem to be certain genetic makeups that they are specifically looking for.

I hope that helps.

ps: Yes, the Reptoids are the same as the Reptilians I believe.

Maria

Thank you Maria!
Here is a site that will answer some of your questions
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0601041h.html
It includes "Blood of the Gods" a free ebook/
Mystery

[Mystery]

Hello All and Mystery,

I am really puzzled by all the secretiveness. Mystery explained to me that she wasn't at liberty to answer my questions. Does anyone have an opinion on these questions that I asked her? Is this kind of like the tree of knowledge in the garden of eden? If anyne learns of this knowledge, they will be kicked out of the garden? I guess the rules still haven't changed? They are still protecting that tree!

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
2/20/11

Hi Blake,

I can add a little bit here. There does appear to be a connection with the negative blood type and the Repton and Dracon blood lines.

Purportedly they use the little greys to track "their" people who have the Dracon blood DNA.

There does seem to be certain genetic makeups that they are specifically looking for.

I hope that helps.

ps: Yes, the Reptoids are the same as the Reptilians I believe.

Maria

Thank you Maria!
Here is a site that will answer some of your questions
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0601041h.html
It includes "Blood of the Gods" a free ebook/
Mystery

WRONG BOOK, sorry - I had both books in my computer, side-by-side and pushed the wrong title/ So sorry
Try this one:
http://www.myspace.com/rh_negative_blood/blog/453622615
Mystery

[Redtailhawk]

Hello All and Mystery,

I am really puzzled by all the secretiveness. Mystery explained to me that she wasn't at liberty to answer my questions. Does anyone have an opinion on these questions that I asked her? Is this kind of like the tree of knowledge in the garden of eden? If anyne learns of this knowledge, they will be kicked out of the garden? I guess the rules still haven't changed? They are still protecting that tree!

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
2/20/11

Hi Blake,

I can add a little bit here. There does appear to be a connection with the negative blood type and the Repton and Dracon blood lines.

Purportedly they use the little greys to track "their" people who have the Dracon blood DNA.

There does seem to be certain genetic makeups that they are specifically looking for.

I hope that helps.

ps: Yes, the Reptoids are the same as the Reptilians I believe.

Maria

Thank you Maria!
Here is a site that will answer some of your questions
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0601041h.html
It includes "Blood of the Gods" a free ebook/
Mystery

WRONG BOOK, sorry - I had both books in my computer, side-by-side and pushed the wrong title/ So sorry
Try this one:
http://www.myspace.com/rh_negative_blood/blog/453622615
Mystery

I was going to say I was lost :)

Thanks a bunch, looks like a great read.

[Mystery]

Hello All and Mystery,

I am really puzzled by all the secretiveness. Mystery explained to me that she wasn't at liberty to answer my questions. Does anyone have an opinion on these questions that I asked her? Is this kind of like the tree of knowledge in the garden of eden? If anyne learns of this knowledge, they will be kicked out of the garden? I guess the rules still haven't changed? They are still protecting that tree!

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
2/20/11

Hi Blake,

I can add a little bit here. There does appear to be a connection with the negative blood type and the Repton and Dracon blood lines.

Purportedly they use the little greys to track "their" people who have the Dracon blood DNA.

There does seem to be certain genetic makeups that they are specifically looking for.

I hope that helps.

ps: Yes, the Reptoids are the same as the Reptilians I believe.

Maria

Thank you Maria!
Here is a site that will answer some of your questions
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0601041h.html
It includes "Blood of the Gods" a free ebook/
Mystery

WRONG BOOK, sorry - I had both books in my computer, side-by-side and pushed the wrong title/ So sorry
Try this one:
http://www.myspace.com/rh_negative_blood/blog/453622615
Mystery

Since can't provide informations perhaps I can suffest a few articles: (good article)
http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/rhneg.htm

[blake]

Hello All and Mystery,

I am really puzzled by all the secretiveness. Mystery explained to me that she wasn't at liberty to answer my questions. Does anyone have an opinion on these questions that I asked her? Is this kind of like the tree of knowledge in the garden of eden? If anyne learns of this knowledge, they will be kicked out of the garden? I guess the rules still haven't changed? They are still protecting that tree!

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
2/20/11

Hi Blake,

I can add a little bit here. There does appear to be a connection with the negative blood type and the Repton and Dracon blood lines.

Purportedly they use the little greys to track "their" people who have the Dracon blood DNA.

There does seem to be certain genetic makeups that they are specifically looking for.

I hope that helps.

ps: Yes, the Reptoids are the same as the Reptilians I believe.

Maria

Thank you Maria!
Here is a site that will answer some of your questions
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0601041h.html
It includes "Blood of the Gods" a free ebook/
Mystery

WRONG BOOK, sorry - I had both books in my computer, side-by-side and pushed the wrong title/ So sorry
Try this one:
http://www.myspace.com/rh_negative_blood/blog/453622615
Mystery

Since can't provide informations perhaps I can suffest a few articles: (good article)
http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/rhneg.htm


Hello All and Mystery,

Thank you for the article, Mystey; although I had read it years ago. I find it interesting that although it was written over thirty years ago,it appears that we have not learned any thing new since regarding the topics of aliens, and the mysteries of the origin of humans, or our relationship with reptiles. I wonder why that is? There are so many stories, but few if any new answers at least that I can find. I guess I am looking for updated and detailed answers as I would really like to chop down that "tree of Knowledge" in the garden of eden that is still so guarded, so that truth and knowledge can be available to all. You will have to forgive me for my weariness and bluntness, but in reading old books from other centuries, it is frustating to see that so many books witten in the seventy and eighties were often just a rehash of what was written in the 1800s concerning psychic issues. And then it seems that many books wriitten today are often just a rehash of books published in the seventies and eighties. For me, readng and hearing so much rehash presented as if it were new material is weary on the mind. I am looking for fresh, new information, and direct expereince of these questions of aliens and the origin of humans. Does anyone really know anything concrete? Or are we all just rehashing someone else's rehash?
About thirty years ago, outside of the Boston area, I was organizing weekly lectures on topics such as these, by the "big names" of that time. And yet, since that time, as the decades rolled forward, it appears all I hear are the same old stories and information that I heard twentyfive or thirty years ago; and of course, along with statements that certain information is just "too dangerous to know". Sometimes that statement can be true under certain temporary conditions, but mosty, in my opinion, it is a controlling tactic, especially if it is ongoing. So I challenege all, please help chop down that very guarded "tree of Knowledge" of ancient times, and free humans by telling all. And please understand that I am not an expert in this material, so if I heard it all before, than the odds are that it is pretty much rehashed information.

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
2/21/11

[Mystery]

Hello All and Mystery,

I am really puzzled by all the secretiveness. Mystery explained to me that she wasn't at liberty to answer my questions. Does anyone have an opinion on these questions that I asked her? Is this kind of like the tree of knowledge in the garden of eden? If anyne learns of this knowledge, they will be kicked out of the garden? I guess the rules still haven't changed? They are still protecting that tree!

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
2/20/11

Hi Blake,

I can add a little bit here. There does appear to be a connection with the negative blood type and the Repton and Dracon blood lines.

Purportedly they use the little greys to track "their" people who have the Dracon blood DNA.

There does seem to be certain genetic makeups that they are specifically looking for.

I hope that helps.

ps: Yes, the Reptoids are the same as the Reptilians I believe.

Maria

Thank you Maria!
Here is a site that will answer some of your questions
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0601041h.html
It includes "Blood of the Gods" a free ebook/
Mystery

WRONG BOOK, sorry - I had both books in my computer, side-by-side and pushed the wrong title/ So sorry
Try this one:
http://www.myspace.com/rh_negative_blood/blog/453622615
Mystery

Since can't provide informations perhaps I can suffest a few articles: (good article)
http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/rhneg.htm


Hello All and Mystery,

Thank you for the article, Mystey; although I had read it years ago. I find it interesting that although it was written over thirty years ago,it appears that we have not learned any thing new since regarding the topics of aliens, and the mysteries of the origin of humans, or our relationship with reptiles. I wonder why that is? There are so many stories, but few if any new answers at least that I can find. I guess I am looking for updated and detailed answers as I would really like to chop down that "tree of Knowledge" in the garden of eden that is still so guarded, so that truth and knowledge can be available to all. You will have to forgive me for my weariness and bluntness, but in reading old books from other centuries, it is frustating to see that so many books witten in the seventy and eighties were often just a rehash of what was written in the 1800s concerning psychic issues. And then it seems that many books wriitten today are often just a rehash of books published in the seventies and eighties. For me, readng and hearing so much rehash presented as if it were new material is weary on the mind. I am looking for fresh, new information, and direct expereince of these questions of aliens and the origin of humans. Does anyone really know anything concrete? Or are we all just rehashing someone else's rehash?
About thirty years ago, outside of the Boston area, I was organizing weekly lectures on topics such as these, by the "big names" of that time. And yet, since that time, as the decades rolled forward, it appears all I hear are the same old stories and information that I heard twentyfive or thirty years ago; and of course, along with statements that certain information is just "too dangerous to know". Sometimes that statement can be true under certain temporary conditions, but mosty, in my opinion, it is a controlling tactic, especially if it is ongoing. So I challenege all, please help chop down that very guarded "tree of Knowledge" of ancient times, and free humans by telling all. And please understand that I am not an expert in this material, so if I heard it all before, than the odds are that it is pretty much rehashed information.

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
2/21/11

I truly understand your frustration, and I share that frustation. There is a lot of new information available but it is difficult to find, and too little information to be of help.
Too, I understand your hesitation to go on Facebook, I had the same feelings before I decided that it doesn't matter. "They" (CIA, FBI etc) know who I am, they know where I am and they know I will not suddenly break my oath not to divulge forbidden information. So for myself - it doesn't matter. If course "they" monitor my words, and "they" have befriended me on Facebook, but so what what? "They" can also infiltrate any social group, including Avalon, if they choose to. Project Avalon includes a group of intelligent well versed men and women interested with a wide variety of subjects - of course "they" would be quite interested with people like the readers of Project Avalon.

Mr. Davis, I wish I could answers you questions, if I could answer, you and I would be happy. So instead, I am asking that you take another look at your questions, if you read them again, you can almost find the reason I can't answer your posed questions.
Mean while - any one with >new< repton information?

[blake]

I truly understand your frustration, and I share that frustation. There is a lot of new information available but it is difficult to find, and too little information to be of help.
....... "They" (CIA, FBI etc) know who I am, they know where I am and they know I will not suddenly break my oath not to divulge forbidden information.


Hello Mystery,

Thank you for responding.
And I must say it is not just you, but so many people that I have come across ,over the decades ,that make the same claims or defense . They surface to share just part of the story becasue: of an "oath" taken with the CIA. FBI. NSA etc, not to reveal the "forbidden information" part of the story. And so the tree of "Forbidden Knowledge" stays strong.... the game hasn't changed in milliums.

I undertand what you are saying, if you reveal the " forbidden information" they will kill you or a love one or something along those lines. So humankind is kept from the tree of knowledge from being perpetually blackmailed and threatened. Such a pity. And so humankind, in my opinion, stays in the darkness destinied to repeat the same mistakes, while being invisablely suspended in the perpetuality of half truths and spiritual control.

So I wonder why do you speak up at all. Is it just to say, ("YES" there are Aliens, and " Yes" there is forbidden knowledge concernign the aliens,) just to keep the story alive until some smart human figures it all out?

I don't know what I would do if I was in your shoes. But I will ask you this, do you think it is right and good for humans not to have this "forbbiden information"?

Sincerely,
Mr.Davis
2/21/11

[BowMan]

Take care to watch without the sound.
The sound contains many subliminal messages. In both videos.

I wouldn't recommend watching them either. The pacing of the editing is faster than the conscious mind can absorb (which is actually quite a slow ponderous creature). I don't know what the purpose of these video's are but it is not to educate or inform. In my opinion.

[Mystery]

I truly understand your frustration, and I share that frustation. There is a lot of new information available but it is difficult to find, and too little information to be of help.
....... "They" (CIA, FBI etc) know who I am, they know where I am and they know I will not suddenly break my oath not to divulge forbidden information.


Hello Mystery,

Thank you for responding.
And I must say it is not just you, but so many people that I have come across ,over the decades ,that make the same claims or defense . They surface to share just part of the story becasue: of an "oath" taken with the CIA. FBI. NSA etc, not to reveal the "forbidden information" part of the story. And so the tree of "Forbidden Knowledge" stays strong.... the game hasn't changed in milliums.

I undertand what you are saying, if you reveal the " forbidden information" they will kill you or a love one or something along those lines. So humankind is kept from the tree of knowledge from being perpetually blackmailed and threatened. Such a pity. And so humankind, in my opinion, stays in the darkness destinied to repeat the same mistakes, while being invisablely suspended in the perpetuality of half truths and spiritual control.

So I wonder why do you speak up at all. Is it just to say, ("YES" there are Aliens, and " Yes" there is forbidden knowledge concernign the aliens,) just to keep the story alive until some smart human figures it all out?

I don't know what I would do if I was in your shoes. But I will ask you this, do you think it is right and good for humans not to have this "forbbiden information"?

Sincerely,
Mr.Davis
2/21/11

So you think it would be best is I just back off and stop telling the information I CAN tell, right? That could be possible, but then what? Some one elses son would die I wasn't brave enough to share the information I was allowed to talk about? Mr. Davis they threat you, they physically hurt you, they kill your children..... if it was YOUR child what would you do? Would you try your best to warn people? THINK what you are saying Mr. Davis. A better warning is better than no warning at all. No problem, in the future, I suggest you do not read any of my messages.

[witchy1]

So I wonder why do you speak up at all. Is it just to say, ("YES" there are Aliens, and " Yes" there is forbidden knowledge concernign the aliens,) just to keep the story alive until some smart human figures it all out?
I don't know what I would do if I was in your shoes. But I will ask you this, do you think it is right and good for humans not to have this "forbbiden information"?

Mr Blake (if this is indeed your real name)

It woud appear that your post is this a thinly veiled demand for the disclosure of more information. I ascertain from your post that knowing nothing is infinately more rewarding than knowing that what is able to be revealed.

Given this is the situation, and you have read all that here is to read, there may be nothing more that can assist you in your search for the truth on this thread. There is no value in this line of inquiry and it serves no purpose to harrass our guests with a condescending attitude. You have clearly considered the effects of full disclosure on those who speak out. I am appalled that you consider it appropropriate for this to occur so long as you get the inforamation that you demand. Most aware Avalonias appreciate the work and the risks that our guests take and wish no harm to anyone and we are grateful that we have access to people in the know.

It has been made perfectly clear that Mystery is willing to share that which she is able. This is clearly not sufficent for you, so in support of Mystery please do not post further on this thread.

All on Avalon are seeking the whole truth, no-one has that yet that I am aware of. If you expect to find that here, you are mistaken

Witchy

[linz2d]

What is with that video. I just watched a third of it and my intuition told me to switch it off. Not many thing get to me like that did, the images weren't that bad either as I have probably seen most of them at one time or other. I just got this sick feeling building up, like fear and dread. Its was an interesting reaction,

[Mystery]

So I wonder why do you speak up at all. Is it just to say, ("YES" there are Aliens, and " Yes" there is forbidden knowledge concernign the aliens,) just to keep the story alive until some smart human figures it all out?
I don't know what I would do if I was in your shoes. But I will ask you this, do you think it is right and good for humans not to have this "forbbiden information"?

Mr Blake (if this is indeed your real name)

It woud appear that your post is this a thinly veiled demand for the disclosure of more information. I ascertain from your post that knowing nothing is infinately more rewarding than knowing that what is able to be revealed.

Given this is the situation, and you have read all that here is to read, there may be nothing more that can assist you in your search for the truth on this thread. There is no value in this line of inquiry and it serves no purpose to harrass our guests with a condescending attitude. You have clearly considered the effects of full disclosure on those who speak out. I am appalled that you consider it appropropriate for this to occur so long as you get the inforamation that you demand. Most aware Avalonias appreciate the work and the risks that our guests take and wish no harm to anyone and we are grateful that we have access to people in the know.

It has been made perfectly clear that Mystery is willing to share that which she is able. This is clearly not sufficent for you, so in support of Mystery please do not post further on this thread.

All on Avalon are seeking the truth, no-one has that yet that I am aware of. If you expect to find that here, you are mistaken

Witchy

Thank you for speaking up - it is deeply appreciated. I am not good with defending myself, it is just sigh and avoid the suggestions. The not very polite suggest that I say nothing if I can't speak freely hurts, people have no what I have over come to keep talking after their last efforts to silence me. Maybe it it time they find out a few of they have done to me so far. They rammed my stopped car at a red light, their car was traveling at 109 miles an hour - my car was broken in half - literally, three of my friends were taken to the hospital, I stayed at the scene to take care of bujsiness, thinking I was hurt, just bleeding and able to answer questions - then came the Men in Black - and the words "We let you live this time. Next time you won't be so lucky." Two days later, with my frends still in the hospital, I woke up in agony - the car wreck broke my back. I wore back braces for 11 years, and to this day, i have terrible back ackes and can't function with out medication. That is just of ONE time that tried to silence me. If I started listing the things they have done to me, to make sure I don't talk, it would be a four page list of their threats. People have NO idea what they do, what they CAN and DO to terrify and to silence people. Am I afraid if them? Of course I am afraid, I KNOW they will do nothing, literally NOTHING to make sure I will not tell their secrets. Folks - listen to me - it is not fun when you can't get the information you want to read about - I KNOW that. I had a wonderful son, he died two weeks before of his 35th birthday - my only son, under strange circumstances. that happened 11 years ago. I have three daughters - two are currently alive and healthy, my second daughter has been missing for over 10 years. Think about that the next time some one isn't satisfied because they don't get all the information they want. I want ONE piece of information - is my daughter alive? Life is not always easy. I know that, there is not a day that goes by that I wonder do I do the right thing to carry on and keep trying to tell people to wake up.

[blake]

So I wonder why do you speak up at all. Is it just to say, ("YES" there are Aliens, and " Yes" there is forbidden knowledge concernign the aliens,) just to keep the story alive until some smart human figures it all out?
I don't know what I would do if I was in your shoes. But I will ask you this, do you think it is right and good for humans not to have this "forbbiden information"?

Mr Blake (if this is indeed your real name)

It woud appear that your post is this a thinly veiled demand for the disclosure of more information. I ascertain from your post that knowing nothing is infinately more rewarding than knowing that what is able to be revealed.

Given this is the situation, and you have read all that here is to read, there may be nothing more that can assist you in your search for the truth on this thread. There is no value in this line of inquiry and it serves no purpose to harrass our guests with a condescending attitude. You have clearly considered the effects of full disclosure on those who speak out. I am appalled that you consider it appropropriate for this to occur so long as you get the inforamation that you demand. Most aware Avalonias appreciate the work and the risks that our guests take and wish no harm to anyone and we are grateful that we have access to people in the know.

It has been made perfectly clear that Mystery is willing to share that which she is able. This is clearly not sufficent for you, so in support of Mystery please do not post further on this thread.

All on Avalon are seeking the truth, no-one has that yet that I am aware of. If you expect to find that here, you are mistaken

Witchy

Hello Witchy, (if indeed that is really your name! Sorry, I just couldn’t resist:)

Mystery is lucky to have such a staunch advocate as yourself, and I do apologize for obviously upsetting the both of you. It was not my intention. Do rest assured, Witchy, this will be my last posting on this thread, I certainly wouldn’t want any of my questions to cause such discomfort for you or Mystery. Communication, especially the written word can be very fragile, especially when people are coming from different experiences and perspectives.

You write:
“It woud appear that your post is this a thinly veiled demand for the disclosure of more information.”

I reread my last posting, and I think you missed the heart of my post; which, of course, is easy to do, when people have different communication styles. My post was not, as you thought, a thinly veiled “demand” for disclosure of more information, but rather an honest question as to whether or not it would be in the best interest of humans, in general, to indeed have certain information restricted from us. I was simply pondering if that was a possibility or did Mystery indeed think we should have all this information that she is forced not to reveal. The theme of “forbidden knowledge” has been deeply ingrained into human history. And I was also pondering why speak up at all if only part of the story can be told, unless it is done more as a warning to back off; or perhaps the message might be to stay “fearful?” I don’t think my questions were unreasonable, condescending or harassing, but obviously you do, so my apologies again.

Witchy, I believe it is okay to ask questions, especially questions that probe and stretch the mind. Not all questions have answers, but sometimes asking questions that can’t be answered, can supply a flow to more questions that sometimes, not only can be answered, but can also lead to more important questions; or even to the right question, or an enlightened moment. But that is just my opinion.

You write:

“All on Avalon are seeking the truth, no-one has that yet that I am aware of. If you expect to find that here, you are mistaken.”


In your last sentence, you stated that I would be mistaken if I expected to find the truth on this thread??? Wow! Does everybody know that?


I send good and protective thoughts to both you and Mystery on this cold but fine winter evening.

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
2/21/11
signing off from this thread!

[Mystery]

So I wonder why do you speak up at all. Is it just to say, ("YES" there are Aliens, and " Yes" there is forbidden knowledge concernign the aliens,) just to keep the story alive until some smart human figures it all out?
I don't know what I would do if I was in your shoes. But I will ask you this, do you think it is right and good for humans not to have this "forbbiden information"?

Mr Blake (if this is indeed your real name)

It woud appear that your post is this a thinly veiled demand for the disclosure of more information. I ascertain from your post that knowing nothing is infinately more rewarding than knowing that what is able to be revealed.

Given this is the situation, and you have read all that here is to read, there may be nothing more that can assist you in your search for the truth on this thread. There is no value in this line of inquiry and it serves no purpose to harrass our guests with a condescending attitude. You have clearly considered the effects of full disclosure on those who speak out. I am appalled that you consider it appropropriate for this to occur so long as you get the inforamation that you demand. Most aware Avalonias appreciate the work and the risks that our guests take and wish no harm to anyone and we are grateful that we have access to people in the know.

It has been made perfectly clear that Mystery is willing to share that which she is able. This is clearly not sufficent for you, so in support of Mystery please do not post further on this thread.

All on Avalon are seeking the truth, no-one has that yet that I am aware of. If you expect to find that here, you are mistaken

Witchy

Hello Witchy, (if indeed that is really your name! Sorry, I just couldn’t resist:)

Mystery is lucky to have such a staunch advocate as yourself, and I do apologize for obviously upsetting the both of you. It was not my intention. Do rest assured, Witchy, this will be my last posting on this thread, I certainly wouldn’t want any of my questions to cause such discomfort for you or Mystery. Communication, especially the written word can be very fragile, especially when people are coming from different experiences and perspectives.

You write:
“It woud appear that your post is this a thinly veiled demand for the disclosure of more information.”

I reread my last posting, and I think you missed the heart of my post; which, of course, is easy to do, when people have different communication styles. My post was not, as you thought, a thinly veiled “demand” for disclosure of more information, but rather an honest question as to whether or not it would be in the best interest of humans, in general, to indeed have certain information restricted from us. I was simply pondering if that was a possibility or did Mystery indeed think we should have all this information that she is forced not to reveal. The theme of “forbidden knowledge” has been deeply ingrained into human history. And I was also pondering why speak up at all if only part of the story can be told, unless it is done more as a warning to back off; or perhaps the message might be to stay “fearful?” I don’t think my questions were unreasonable, condescending or harassing, but obviously you do, so my apologies again.

Witchy, I believe it is okay to ask questions, especially questions that probe and stretch the mind. Not all questions have answers, but sometimes asking questions that can’t be answered, can supply a flow to more questions that sometimes, not only can be answered, but can also lead to more important questions; or even to the right question, or an enlightened moment. But that is just my opinion.

You write:

“All on Avalon are seeking the truth, no-one has that yet that I am aware of. If you expect to find that here, you are mistaken.”


In your last sentence, you stated that I would be mistaken if I expected to find the truth on this thread??? Wow! Does everybody know that?


I send good and protective thoughts to both you and Mystery on this cold but fine winter evening.

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
2/21/11
signing off from this thread!

Witchy - It is when people rave on about how people (in this case, me) with hold information, and then pretend their sharp words were mistaken, they didn't mean it that way etc - but he said exactly wanted to say, I am sorry he is disappointed, but I won't create stories to satisfy his demands, and I CAN'T give him classified material just because he thinks he deserves better treatment.

So - now I am always curious exactly what information did HE add to the Dulce Base information pool?

I do not know "mr. davis' and if he is the largest provider of information on UFO and Dulce Base, I missed his name in the all my files. I've never heard of him. Like I said, I don't know the gentleman, and I am new to Avalon - does he regularly submit wisdom or at least submit articles that he writes? If so, I would like to read his material and see if indeed I missed something. His grumble on about my with holding of information is not new, it is just not usually me that is the target of his frustration. It is something that we all get frustrated with the lack of information, but most people don't grumble because he didn't get what they wanted.
Thank you Witchy - you are a good friend, and your friendship is sincerely appreciated! THANK YOU!
Cherry - Mystery

[witchy1]

Maybe it it time they find out a few of they have done to me so far. They rammed my stopped car at a red light, their car was traveling at 109 miles an hour - my car was broken in half - literally, three of my friends were taken to the hospital, I stayed at the scene to take care of bujsiness, thinking I was hurt, just bleeding and able to answer questions - then came the Men in Black - and the words "We let you live this time. Next time you won't be so lucky." Two days later, with my frends still in the hospital, I woke up in agony - the car wreck broke my back. I wore back braces for 11 years, and to this day, i have terrible back ackes and can't function with out medication. That is just of ONE time that tried to silence me. If I started listing the things they have done to me, to make sure I don't talk, it would be a four page list of their threats. People have NO idea what they do, what they CAN and DO to terrify and to silence people. Am I afraid if them? Of course I am afraid, I KNOW they will do nothing, literally NOTHING to make sure I will not tell their secrets. Folks - listen to me - it is not fun when you can't get the information you want to read about - I KNOW that. I had a wonderful son, he died two weeks before of his 35th birthday - my only son, under strange circumstances. that happened 11 years ago. I have three daughters - two are currently alive and healthy, my second daughter has been missing for over 10 years. Think about that the next time some one isn't satisfied because they don't get all the information they want. I want ONE piece of information - is my daughter alive? Life is not always easy. I know that, there is not a day that goes by that I wonder do I do the right thing to carry on and keep trying to tell people to wake up.

Oh dear Cherry, words simply cannot convey my feelings of sadness. No person should have to endure such devastating losses.
If my words are of any use at all, the world would be a much better place if everyone thought and acted as you do. There are few braver more honest giving souls in the world.

For my own selfish reasons I add do not give up the good fight, people are waking up due to the work that you do and the voice that you have. We are indeed all indebted to you and your family.

With much love and light :hug:
Witchy

[witchy1]

What is with that video. I just watched a third of it and my intuition told me to switch it off. Not many thing get to me like that did, the images weren't that bad either as I have probably seen most of them at one time or other. I just got this sick feeling building up, like fear and dread. Its was an interesting reaction,


I wouldn't recommend watching them either. The pacing of the editing is faster than the conscious mind can absorb (which is actually quite a slow ponderous creature). I don't know what the purpose of these video's are but it is not to educate or inform. In my opinion.


Take care to watch without the sound.
The sound contains many subliminal messages. In both videos.

Hi all, I know Daledo was thinking of removing those videos. (its his thread technically) If you want to contact him maybe??? I guess the mods might consider starting the thread off from #25 or so if they thought appropriate??

W

[linz2d]

Hi all, I know Daledo was thinking of removing those videos. (its his thread technically) If you want to contact him maybe??? I guess the mods might consider starting the thread off from #25 or so if they thought appropriate??

W

No I don't think that is necessary, Perhaps a word of warning, like "Be warned, some viewers have reported having a negative reaction to the following video :twitch: View at your own risk!!!"

[Mystery]

Maybe it it time they find out a few of they have done to me so far. They rammed my stopped car at a red light, their car was traveling at 109 miles an hour - my car was broken in half - literally, three of my friends were taken to the hospital, I stayed at the scene to take care of bujsiness, thinking I was hurt, just bleeding and able to answer questions - then came the Men in Black - and the words "We let you live this time. Next time you won't be so lucky." Two days later, with my frends still in the hospital, I woke up in agony - the car wreck broke my back. I wore back braces for 11 years, and to this day, i have terrible back ackes and can't function with out medication. That is just of ONE time that tried to silence me. If I started listing the things they have done to me, to make sure I don't talk, it would be a four page list of their threats. People have NO idea what they do, what they CAN and DO to terrify and to silence people. Am I afraid if them? Of course I am afraid, I KNOW they will do nothing, literally NOTHING to make sure I will not tell their secrets. Folks - listen to me - it is not fun when you can't get the information you want to read about - I KNOW that. I had a wonderful son, he died two weeks before of his 35th birthday - my only son, under strange circumstances. that happened 11 years ago. I have three daughters - two are currently alive and healthy, my second daughter has been missing for over 10 years. Think about that the next time some one isn't satisfied because they don't get all the information they want. I want ONE piece of information - is my daughter alive? Life is not always easy. I know that, there is not a day that goes by that I wonder do I do the right thing to carry on and keep trying to tell people to wake up.

Oh dear Cherry, words simply cannot convey my feelings of sadness. No person should have to endure such devastating losses.
If my words are of any use at all, the world would be a much better place if everyone thought and acted as you do. There are few braver more honest giving souls in the world.

For my own selfish reasons I add do not give up the good fight, people are waking up due to the work that you do and the voice that you have. We are indeed all indebted to you and your family.

With much love and light :hug:
Witchy

If the world had more people like you Witchy, we would have a better planet! Thank you for your comforting words.
It truly eases my pain.
Mystery

[JDM]

Hello Cherry and Karen.

If you dont mind I would like to ask a personal opinion question.

Do you think The US government will disclose the existence of Extraterrestrials and the history of the human race?

I know this is a big question that has been asked and debated my thousands if not millions. I just wanted to here what your opinions are.

I personaly think they are using a "drip" method of disclosure to slowly get the masses used to the idea. (movies, media, games etc...)

I dont think they would ever have an outright statement saying ET's exist and are here and have always been here, then give details.
To many questions and explanations will need to follow. (the cover up, the deaths and murders, the religious and dogma chaos, etc...)

of course for me, I dont need the government to tell me what exist and what dosent. I know what I believe and what is real.

But some would need the government telling them these things before they believe anything.

[Mystery]

Hello Cherry and Karen.

If you dont mind I would like to ask a personal opinion question.

Do you think The US government will disclose the existence of Extraterrestrials and the history of the human race?

I know this is a big question that has been asked and debated my thousands if not millions. I just wanted to here what your opinions are.

I personaly think they are using a "drip" method of disclosure to slowly get the masses used to the idea. (movies, media, games etc...)

I dont think they would ever have an outright statement saying ET's exist and are here and have always been here, then give details.
To many questions and explanations will need to follow. (the cover up, the deaths and murders, the religious and dogma chaos, etc...)

of course for me, I dont need the government to tell me what exist and what dosent. I know what I believe and what is real.

But some would need the government telling them these things before they believe anything.

In my opinion YES they will disclosure the "real truth" (yeah, right) and will do a lot of double talk, that is why they have now an official ambassador of alien affairs. They will first talk about the "unknown civilization" they "suddenly discovered." They they will introduce the antichrist. Later (actually, pretty soon) they will talk about the threat from outer space. They will offer more double talk and a lot of nonsense, and then presto - world wide war complete aliens. Don't be surprised at all if the space craft is huge black and shaped like a cube. (yes, like the Borg of Star Trek) That craft is clearly described in the book of Revelation.

But - please remember that you ask for my *opinion* and that is my opinion.
Mystery

[JDM]

In my opinion YES they will disclosure the "real truth" (yeah, right) and will do a lot of double talk, that is why they have now an official ambassador of alien affairs. They will first talk about the "unknown civilization" they "suddenly discovered." They they will introduce the antichrist. Later (actually, pretty soon) they will talk about the threat from outer space. They will offer more double talk and a lot of nonsense, and then presto - world wide war complete aliens. Don't be surprised at all if the space craft is huge black and shaped like a cube. (yes, like the Borg of Star Trek) That craft is clearly described in the book of Revelation.

But - please remember that you ask for my *opinion* and that is my opinion.
Mystery

I have always liked Star Trek.
The Next generation being my favorite of course. the episode with "Hugh" the borg was a great one. I have it on my hard drive.

I think your right.
There has been a lot of talk around here and many other places.
saying that there going to stage a fake alien invasion. Or possibly make out the "real" et's as being a true threat.

Regan(star wars, SDI etc..)

[Charlie Pecos]

Hi Cherry,

I just want to say thank you for being here with us and for sharing your knowledge. It is invaluable.

It hurts the heart to read what price you have been made to pay for your knowledge.

You are in my thoughts and prayers, know that you are loved.

Deep respect and gratitude to you and your family,

James