What to Believe......... (Wilcock interviews Corey Goode on GaiamTV - July 2015)

[Citizen No2]

... I just don't really know anymore.

Take Corey Goode. His information hits all the right buttons, tying together so many pieces of disparate information into one, neat, digestible story.

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But............ If this information resonates, if it sits easy with you, should we not also consider this:

Mind Kontrol.

How likely is it, that a man that has walked on Mars, witnessed countless alien races, a mining colony peopled by slaves, fantastic modes of transport, would be allowed to just talk?

Sure....... Some may say that he is being backed by 'White Hats' that want the truth out. If they were in positions of that realm then surely some hard evidence to back-up the claims would not be a problem. Pictures, an object, film, anything other than words would do.

We are all aware of reports of the technology available in the field of Mind Kontrol. If what Corey states he has witnessed is true, would it not be too much of a stretch to suggest that he, or indeed, anyone, involved in such programmes would have the full array of tracking and thought control technology focused on them at all times?

I have taken an interest in such things for more than half my life.

I just don't know what to believe any more.


Regards.

[Baby Steps]

If you were a dark controller, who may have experienced trying to control and obfuscate shifts like this one before...

You will know that as awareness collectively raises, new 'truths' are needed. Some truth needs to be given, the masses need to be thrown a frikkin' bone! But the facts given will still be contaminated with control.

Bill Ryan has stated on another thread that everything Corey is saying is, in effect, sanctioned - because he has not been silenced, which he easily could have been.
The facts presented are good enough to attract David Wilcock's endorsement, which means multiple insider corroboration.

The idea of a sphere being force coming in to protect us smells of another Galactic Federation type story- just sit back because the Cavalry is coming.

Corey himself has stated that the activities around this Solar system are going to protect us from the energies coming in to 'stop us from going mad'

So it sounds like another process of putting a damper on our awakening. Light forces are not known for big dramatic actions, rather they prefer (or are allowed to) work with individual consciousness to help people to do what they came here to do!

Perhaps the Blue Avians Corey is seeing are something else in disguise
It is interesting that these entities appear on the same reliefs in ancient times that relate to stories of the Annunaki.
The Annunaki being our overlords who are returning at this time supposedly...

God bless

[alh02]

How likely is it, that a man that has walked on Mars, witnessed countless alien races, a mining colony peopled by slaves, fantastic modes of transport, would be allowed to just talk?

I think you already know the answer to this question.

Disinfo agents and controlled opposition are allowed to spread as much lies and BS as they like.

Legitimate whistleblowers on the other hand, wiho have real information and evidence to back it up, get shut down real quick.

[Meggings]

... I just don't really know anymore.

Take Corey Goode. His information hits all the right buttons, tying together so many pieces of disparate information into one, neat, digestible story. ... I have taken an interest in such things for more than half my life.

I just don't know what to believe any more.

Regards.

We have to believe in ourselves, in our own discernment, in our own inner promptings.
There is no outer controller, but we live a reality in which there is outer control because we have been manipulated into those beliefs through thousands of years.

It seems to me the way forward lies in laying aside much of the insanity we discover in the world around us, and focusing on our inner development, our inner connection to our own divinity. Find and cultivate our inner strength, our inner heart. Words are so easy to write. Living the words, being love in action, takes constant awareness.

Develop inner connection to your own higher self, develop the listening ear to those whispers, for in that is your truth shown to you. It is the guiding star to follow, subtle as it is. The moral compass is embedded within us, and is not found out in the world.

Was there not a line in the movie "K-pax" that said every child in the universe knows right from wrong? It is because each one of us is connected to divine source. Turn within, find this, feel this, and thus become a sovereign being, free from outer turbulence and insane nonsense.

Do not follow the "moving red dot" that says 'look here', 'look there'. Centre yourself and become familiar with what is real within, and not with what is false without.

[norski]

It seems to me that the PTB also do some sort of threat assessment. For a while, Phil Schneider was talking about such unbelievable things that I think he was left alone. However, with his persistence and some physical evidence, I think he became a threat and was silenced.

I think Corey Goode is still pretty much on the fringes in terms of audience. I think the game changes as you become more credible. Maybe this is why Kerry C. was targeted. Although she has covered some unbelievable subjects, she presents herself with such intelligence and scrutinizes her subjects so closely, she garners attention.

With events playing out this fall, perhaps she and Bill will both become safer. I hope.

[Troy Martin]

Personally, I never believe in anything that I have not personally experienced first-hand. If I haven't it's just straight information. If you believe in something just because someone says something then you open yourself up to being controlled by social engineering. I believe in what I experienced and what I experienced was a video of a man speaking about whatever he's talking about. Unless I can go out and verify this information in a first hand experience then I will continue to live my life as if I never heard it to begin with which means my beliefs about the topics spoken about are neutral, not true or false, just info.

[Sunny-side-up]

Yes it's all a big ball of confusion!

It all points to our lack of deeper abilities, abilities to be in touch with our higher self and knowledge!

We have been dumbed down, we do not have all our capabilities.

We have to have outside input all the time :(

We are weaved into an illusion! which bits are real?

[Citizen No2]

Meggings wrote:



It seems to me the way forward lies in laying aside much of the insanity we discover in the world around us, and focusing on our inner development, our inner connection to our own divinity. Find and cultivate our inner strength, our inner heart. Words are so easy to write. Living the words, being love in action, takes constant awareness.


I agree.

That is the conclusion I have arrived at.


Regards.

[Wakanpyro]

I think your observation Citizen No 2 is excellent.
To so many in the masses, anything out of their ordinary is nothing but a story without some sort of proof which they would accept. Even at times when there is a sort of proof, they cast it aside easily because one of THEIR experts has an explanation. We ourselves at times find things that resonate and as time goes on, the vibration of that resonance diminishes because nothing seems to come from it, nothing happens, we see no change. But.....there is always some kind of reason. THIS is what gets old. It makes me wonder at times are we just being dragged along because something DID resonate and we are just hearing more of the same.............waiting................waiting.............waiting?????
We should always work on ourselves and move forward, but for many, these fabulous stories that resonate don't seem to move us forward anymore, so we must move forward and again, wait..........
I know for me, I must move forward regardless of the stories, the facts, the lack of change............. Change for me comes from within and until some things happen......well, there isn't a lot I can do about them.

Blessings..................

[betoobig]

The goal is belive in ourselfs and start the change first within us.
LOVE
Juan

[samildamach]

I still believe a lot of are doubt comes from loneliness .once something has resonated with in you and you accept that as truth.apart from online who is there to share it with talk about move forward ,without the blank states mirth dissapointment and appearing mad.finding that inner strength not to turn back the clock and rejoinder the masses is a fight we all know

[Citizen No2]

You should all be proud.

What excellent members we have here. I read these threads and have my faith in humanity replenished.

The over-riding message from you good people............. Look within and make the change.

Beautiful.


Regards.

[amor]

If you can afford it, fill your bathtub and other things with water and stock up with things you do and don't need to cook, get a one burner kerosene stove and fuel, stock up on gasoline, go to the bank and draw a draft for your yearly taxes in advance and surprise the county with them. If there is no money around, they are coming to take your property.

[Delight]

What to believe? Anything you wish to believe and know that the greater the belief the more the evidence will appear. I am sure that the proof of this is by what we experience as a result of what we do believe. The problem is with a Principle: what we think over and over becomes belief. Belief can become collective common "sense" even though it is not true. People will act on the belief. Then confirmation often manifests as self fulfilling prophecy.


"Joseph Stalin's paranoia was a self-fulfilling prophecy. So was Bucky Fuller's optimism"
-- Robert Anton Wilson

A recent example of what is believed is from a Andre Weber who may have believed something else before he believed this ...... the pertinent aspect for my post is in red.

The link is from facebook and I don't use facebook so saw this second hand.




7/27/2015 (https://www.facebook.com/login.php?next=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Falfred.lambremont.webre%2F)

"IRONY OF THE DAY!!!!! It was James Corey [Corey Goode] himself who last week first raised my suspicions that something was amiss in his operation. I was on an email thread with Corey Goode and an email contact in Tel Aviv Israel and Kerry Cassidy and one or two other radio hosts were on the email thread.

A few days before the email exchange with Corey here I invited him for an interview, my Israeli contact forwarded me a link to the Article by Shane stating that the Blue Avians was a mind control meme as being propagated by Corey. My Israeli friend then forwarded me Corey's response to my Israeli friend in which Corey states negative things about Shane. After I met Bradley, I later forwarded Corey's negative appraisal to Bradley Loves, who showed it to Shane and both told me that Corey had fabricated false facts about Shane's life in this message in the format of a disinformation operative.

Corey and my Israeli friend were emailing back and forth very rapidly. So I decided right there and then to ask Corey for an ExopoliticsTV interview.. My request was formal accompanied with all media credentials. Corey's response was silence and to quickly exit the email thread. In my 40+ years of journalistic experience, including with major media, I have know this to be coverup flight behavior. The next day, synchronistically I was contacted by a blogger who put me in touch with Bradley Loves and Shane and within 48 hours we had broken the story of the Blue Avian Illuminati mind control meme here on Facebook. In Light, Alfred"

ps - From an Exopolitical point of view, there are multiple intelligent Avian extraterrestrial races in our Universe, many of whom are probably blue. I myself was told that I am from an Avian planet which is why I am so observant. The point here is that it appears there is reasonable doubt that the Blue Avians that James Corey is enmeshed in are a genuine Exophenotype. Rather these "Blue Avians seem to be an MKULTRA mind control meme by available evidence."

"BLUE AVIAN MEME & COMPETING ET FALSE FLAG EVENT TO GENUINE ET APPROACHES As I wrote, the Avian Exophenotype is quite genuine and documented. You can find it online in the literature as well as in my book on the OMNIVERSE. I am sure there are multiple races of intelligent Extraterrestrial Blue Avian civilizations. In fact, I was told that I am from an Avian planet and this accounts for my perceptive nature. I do believe there is reasonable doubt that the Blue Avians that James Corey is pushing are a genuine Exophenotype. Rather, I do believe they are a mind control meme, to be used as part of a competing false flag ET landing using advanced neural remote mass mind control holographic technology in competition with the genuine ET approaches from ethical upper dimensional ET races in the coming time period. That is the underlying game that is being played out here,James Corey, through propagation by key Gatekeepers such as Wilcock and Salla, amplified by GAIAM TV, is a great way to load the subconscious of the cultural creatives so that they too become vistims of the holographic false flag ET event, manipulated by inner neural remote technology. Remember "Even the Elect shall be deceived" IMHO. Does this help you understand more clearly what I mean?"

What any of the pundits, prophets and projections reveal are the beliefs the believers believe (or perhaps just want someone else to believe). Then what? Everyone who agrees to think along the same lines will come to believe also. Then what? Everyone may well see confirmation or deny what does not conform. Will anyone change their mind based on new information that contradicts a cherished belief? I mean REALLY change as opposed to modify a little to acceptable cognitive resonance.

In the alternative world, paranoia and willingness to believe the terror-able, the negative spin is very popular. The insistence that the favorite messengers be telling the tallest tales possible is seen in threads here. The threads come and go but the scenario is too similar to ignore as a trend.

One person's stories are used to buttress further stories. For instance the "soul catcher" meme may have started with JZKnight in decades past. When one looks deep to where the first evidence is given, one may discover it was without evident base but repetition "makes it so". All it takes is one "authority" who creates a story that appeals to the audience.

One source might even be discredited but similar information reappears. Like the end time dates we see come and go.

And this is not to say that "false flags" do not occur. I do believe that broadcast media has deliberately spread false flags. Many events do not add up. The weird part like with 9/11 is the researchers often find different conclusions about the "Who, What, Where, When, How" and the WHY is bendable to one's beliefs.

My issue is that there is a general preferred gloomy suspicious attitude that colors everything. Paranoia seems to be winning over Pronoia and this is the problem and maybe a solution? Pronoia is the belief that the "Universe conspires in our favor". The worst effect of "psy op" may be to lead people to seek the worst case scene and get addicted to the downer.

Imagination is the human creative tool. To use it for others purposes is IMO pitiable. On PA and in the general alt community where the likes of exopolitical authorities vie for our attention, a "good" story has to have glamorous villains and equally glamorous victim/heros. There has to be a sinister plot against all mankind. There has to be some outsider aliens we have not met personally. Sexual perversion is highlighted. Weaponization of all technology seems expected. What else? Somebody has to be threatened and hopefully die to be big news. Apparently people LIKE quaking in their in the boots and wringing their hands from what I have read.

Is it possible that Pronoia as an alternate alternative view is drowned by the mass wave of Paranoia? Pronoia may be the most subversive belief system of all for anyone to agree to follow. It would make obsolete many existing business models including healers and psychic defense, prepper products, and medications that protect us from vile viruses and nanobacterias (like MMS). Anyone selling "help" of every kind might need to seek unemployment.

The notion that we are being "beamed" with inner neural remote technology is entirely un-necessary given the way we have original endogenous circuitry that creates preferred pathways of thinking by repetition and leads to belief and then evidence.

What I imagine and what others imagine is true will bear itself out as self fulfilling prophecy because we then act out in our behavior what we expect is true. Beating the drum for what we do not desire is effective for never achieving what we desire IMO.

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IMO, the concept of self fulfilling prophecy principle can work to my advantage. Why? because I am a human and humans are creators. Mind is the builder. I believe that and it happens to be true for me.

One seed can start a garden
One drop can start a sea
One doubt can start a hating
One dream can set us free
J. Angland
Maggie

[betoobig]

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Thank you Delight.
MUCH LOVE
Juan

[Pam]

Yes it's all a big ball of confusion!

It all points to our lack of deeper abilities, abilities to be in touch with our higher self and knowledge!

We have been dumbed down, we do not have all our capabilities.

We have to have outside input all the time :(

We are weaved into an illusion! which bits are real?


I think you summed it up beautifully, Sunny!!!!

[Twain]

Another Corey thread, yay! More cognitive dissonance! Even ATS has a thread on this now. And it's on the Top Thread List a couple days now: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1077201/pg1

EDIT: I think this poster nailed it:


These are hardtimes for many... some are more creative than others to make ends meet. The ufo-et-abduction-secretspace/society community is of such a nature that everybody and anybody can come with a witness/whisleblower confession and it is commonly accepted that hard evidence is not requiered and understood.

If you are motivated enough, able to lie as if it is printed and have a well prepared watertight interesting story there is a chance you can make some interesting money and earn your place between the questionable likes of Aaron McCullum, Bob Dean and many more. Once your name has been around the next step will be writing a book to cement your position and name in this community. I Always considered Whitley Strieber the grandfather of such a scam.

All you need to do is prepare yourself by reading/ studying the stuff others wrote and is accepted as credible and incorperate this info into your own story. That way your confession/ story will sound more credible.

I do not say all the ET/UFO stuff is a hoax but the paracites are poping up left and right. These days I will only take such a confession/story serious if the person in question pass intuitively my BS-radar...and common sense. The guy in the YT-vid talking with David Wilcock in the OP does not pass... The credebillity of a guy like Gary McKinnon is of a completely other level.

The scammers usualy back stories of other scammers..just to keep the indusrty rolling..it is all in their own interests.

[Bluegreen]

Meggings wrote:



It seems to me the way forward lies in laying aside much of the insanity we discover in the world around us, and focusing on our inner development, our inner connection to our own divinity. Find and cultivate our inner strength, our inner heart. Words are so easy to write. Living the words, being love in action, takes constant awareness.


I agree.

That is the conclusion I have arrived at.


Regards.


The goal is belive in ourselfs and start the change first within us.
LOVE
Juan

:clapping:

"Jesus said, That which you bring forth from within you, will save you. That which you do not bring forth from within you, will kill you."
- Gospel of Thomas

[Lifebringer]

In the book I'm finishing I touch on MCB's missing for decades taken to off planet worlds to mine as the Annunaki once did in the beginning.
BTW MCB's are Milk Carton Babies(the children staring at us , at the kitchen table) In those decades on our milk cartons after breakfast prayer I always wondered what happened to them, so since I was given the info for the book, it is therefor in the information I received. This kinda magic ain't Harry Potter.

[WhiteLove]

Here is my reaction to this Corey Goode video. My first reaction is that this setup and its content is bizarre. It is by definition bizarre that a 30 minute video contains two persons in a commercial content production context making a "serious" claim to explain who we are and what's going on with humanity and ET presence behind the scenes. I am saying this in neutral terms, not to judge it, only as a neutral observation/view - that I have chosen to be interested in these kinds of things and that has led me to now watching this bizarre Corey Goode episode. I get new information from it, filled in as much mystery as most other content out there. So now I've said it - this is bizarre. Having said that, let's have a look at what other things I find bizarre. I find it bizarre that we have hundreds upon hundreds of people around the world stepping forward as whistleblowers over decades telling the public about what they've experienced in regards to UFOs and ETs, yet day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year no person currently in an authorized position steps forward and says anything about any of it, the disclosure could have happened at least 70 years ago and it hasn't! That silence is a very disturbing bizarre thing, considering the fact that this is stuff having to do with understanding the reality we live in!

So I am making two totally authentic observations here and without attaching any beliefs into these I am on an intellectual level making the following conclusion: The Corey Goode video interview I just watched is not more bizarre than a presidential speech by Barack Obama that contains "proposed solutions to and actions to take to deal with important problems" but never about anything having to do with disclosing important truths. For this very reason - that I'm witnessing two totally bizarre phenomenons that should not even exist in my reality but it does - tells me that whatever I believe it is totally freaking more bizarre not to ask the question - what the heck is going on here, of course humanity must do all it can to find out the truth about these kinds of things. And when you don't do that, it's like living life knowing that you could know much more about the reality you exist in but you don't even choose not to know that - it is just automatically chosen for you. And that's even more bizarre!

Becoming reminded about this extremely weird bizarre fact is telling me that there are great levels of deception out there, the world needs us truth seekers...!!

What is a bit less bizarre is that I have witnessed a UFO with my own eyes. Why that is less bizarre is that at least I know on a personal level - without any information filters in between - that white orbs exist in the sky, are huge, move intelligently and travel enormously fast. I don't even have to believe either this or that about that experience, I can just conclude that's an undeniable experience I've had...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Here is my reaction to this Corey Goode video. My first reaction is that this setup and its content is bizarre. It is by definition bizarre that a 30 minute video contains two persons in a commercial content production context making a "serious" claim to explain who we are and what's going on with humanity and ET presence behind the scenes. I am saying this in neutral terms, not to judge it, only as a neutral observation/view - that I have chosen to be interested in these kinds of things and that has led me to now watching this bizarre Corey Goode episode. I get new information from it, filled in as much mystery as most other content out there. So now I've said it - this is bizarre. Having said that, let's have a look at what other things I find bizarre. I find it bizarre that we have hundreds upon hundreds of people around the world stepping forward as whistleblowers over decades telling the public about what they've experienced in regards to UFOs and ETs, yet day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year no person currently in an authorized position steps forward and says anything about any of it, the disclosure could have happened at least 70 years ago and it hasn't! That silence is a very disturbing bizarre thing, considering the fact that this is stuff having to do with understanding the reality we live in!

So I am making two totally authentic observations here and without attaching any beliefs into these I am on an intellectual level making the following conclusion: The Corey Goode video interview I just watched is not more bizarre than a presidential speech by Barack Obama that contains "proposed solutions to and actions to take to deal with important problems" but never about anything having to do with disclosing important truths. For this very reason - that I'm witnessing two totally bizarre phenomenons that should not even exist in my reality but it does - tells me that whatever I believe it is totally freaking more bizarre not to ask the question - what the heck is going on here, of course humanity must do all it can to find out the truth about these kinds of things. And when you don't do that, it's like living life knowing that you could know much more about the reality you exist in but you don't even choose not to know that - it is just automatically chosen for you. And that's even more bizarre!

Becoming reminded about this extremely weird bizarre fact is telling me that there are great levels of deception out there, the world needs us truth seekers...!!

What is a bit less bizarre is that I have witnessed a UFO with my own eyes. Why that is less bizarre is that at least I know on a personal level - without any information filters in between - that white orbs exist in the sky, are huge, move intelligently and travel enormously fast. I don't even have to believe either this or that about that experience, I can just conclude that's an undeniable experience I've had...

well, they can be very persuasive not to talk...


some say Jade Helm is going after the Patriots who were defending Bundy Ranch declaring war against America...

1st victim found dead in his car Jeffrey Lash, $5 million dollar weapons stash found in his home...

"Found in the home of Mr. Lash, and at various other locations around Los Angeles, this report continues, was an astonishing weapons cache of over 1,200 weapons, scopes, and assorted other military hardware, over 6 ½ tons of ammunition, at least 13 specially modified vehicles (including a submersible SUV) along with nearly $250,000 in cash.

The estimated value of the arms and ammunition alone in the possession of Mr. Lash, this report continues, is over $5 million…and does not count towards the value of his extensive property holdings nor his sophisticated military-type heavily modified vehicles..."

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/jha3.jpg

"the only child of Joseph Jerry Lash (1922-2010), who during World War II was a US Navy aviator and after the war began working in the fields of microbiology and chemistry…and in July, 1947, was chosen to be a part of the medical team assembled by the Office of Naval Research (ONR) to “examine and investigate” the remains obtained from a downed “flying saucer” recovered in Roswell, New Mexico..." link (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1893.htm)

now pops has been dead for years, so they weren't teaching him any lessons, but what might he have shared with his son, the government never wanted released?

was Jeffrey one of the alien insider whistleblowers?

Did he know the government was going to come for him after what he shared?

did MKUltra plant in his head he was an alien hybrid?

so many questions...


but after everything Corey has shared...

he is still alive and typing...


why hasn't he met lead, why isn't he dead...


do they want this info out, or has he been discredited to the point everything can be debunked...

[Selene]

Why isn’t Corey dead? That’s an excellent question, for which there are a number of possible answers. Here are a few, just for thought starters:

1. He’s a “sanctioned plant”, a psyop subject who is only saying what the PTB want him to say, whether willingly or induced. This has been proposed here, and it is a familiar dodge. It is one possibility, but only one of several.

A bit more thought might produce:

2. His information is genuine and related to an ongoing realtime situation/civil war in the Secret Space Program.

This, if so, produces a rather more interesting possibility: He (and Gonzales, if also real, we await confirmation) is or could potentially provide the PTB with actionable intel on the plans, strengths and weaknesses of the renegade SSP Alliance. The PTB need to keep him talking for the time being in order to learn the SSP Alliance’s battle plans, views, and biases. He is, at present, one of the few windows they may have into that operation. Corey’s realtime reports of meetings within the Alliance may be among the best intel they can get (given that they will also have sent “defectors” into that group as double agents but perhaps none so highly placed.)

Intel. This consideration will keep you alive for a reasonable time, as long as you stay within that inner loop, no? Corey would be in a double bind here: Mandated to tell your audience, but your opposition is also listening keenly for clues.

In short, as Woody Allen said: They need the eggs.

3) The information is real, but coming from Corey’s recalled memory and subject to distortion and emotional blockage.

Now here it gets murky. A huge amount of what we see in films and fiction about the “scifi” space programs etc. is - as we know – based on hidden fact. This has been demonstrated again and again.

How, and why? One of the plausible channels for the uncanny prescience of film designers and writers is the very simple possibility that they’ve been there. That these individuals are simply drawing on their own “20 and back” memories – whether consciously or not – to recreate some of that off-world world they experienced.

This could happen. These emotionally tortured individuals become writers and artists because of a compelling need to convey their reality. This is an accepted interpretation of why artists are artists. Fiction is a great way to tell the truth.

4) The total weirdness scenario: That Corey - and presumably others – are being catfished [fooled] by some type of holographic reality that has the capacity to overtake even the most highly trained perceptions. This cannot be excluded, but given the obvious planning flaws of other false flags (9-11, Sandy Hook etc), has perhaps a lower probability, in my estimation – but make your own. This would be the BlueBeam scenario – but given how heavily it has already been exposed in the AltMedia – are the mutually isolated “need to know” planners really that good here? We’d be dealing with a much higher level of organization here. Not impossible, not confirmed.

I’m sure this thread can offer at least one other possibility that does not begin with “5) barking psychotic…”, my friends.

And having a menu of possibilities here is always preferable to premature closure of the brain cells. Making a decision too quickly may not be the wisest course here. This situation may remain ambiguous for quite some time. You don’t have to believe everything that you think, but we may need to continue gathering information before coming to any informed viewpoint.

Cheers,

Selene

[ThePythonicCow]

Another question, perhaps even excellent question, that one might ask -- why have some people of considerable talent, experience and intelligence been promoting Corey for at least a half year now, in public and in private ?

I wish I knew.

[awakeningmom]

Here is my reaction to this Corey Goode video. My first reaction is that this setup and its content is bizarre. It is by definition bizarre that a 30 minute video contains two persons in a commercial content production context making a "serious" claim to explain who we are and what's going on with humanity and ET presence behind the scenes. I am saying this in neutral terms, not to judge it, only as a neutral observation/view - that I have chosen to be interested in these kinds of things and that has led me to now watching this bizarre Corey Goode episode. I get new information from it, filled in as much mystery as most other content out there. So now I've said it - this is bizarre. Having said that, let's have a look at what other things I find bizarre. I find it bizarre that we have hundreds upon hundreds of people around the world stepping forward as whistleblowers over decades telling the public about what they've experienced in regards to UFOs and ETs, yet day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year no person currently in an authorized position steps forward and says anything about any of it, the disclosure could have happened at least 70 years ago and it hasn't! That silence is a very disturbing bizarre thing, considering the fact that this is stuff having to do with understanding the reality we live in!

So I am making two totally authentic observations here and without attaching any beliefs into these I am on an intellectual level making the following conclusion: The Corey Goode video interview I just watched is not more bizarre than a presidential speech by Barack Obama that contains "proposed solutions to and actions to take to deal with important problems" but never about anything having to do with disclosing important truths. For this very reason - that I'm witnessing two totally bizarre phenomenons that should not even exist in my reality but it does - tells me that whatever I believe it is totally freaking more bizarre not to ask the question - what the heck is going on here, of course humanity must do all it can to find out the truth about these kinds of things. And when you don't do that, it's like living life knowing that you could know much more about the reality you exist in but you don't even choose not to know that - it is just automatically chosen for you. And that's even more bizarre!

Becoming reminded about this extremely weird bizarre fact is telling me that there are great levels of deception out there, the world needs us truth seekers...!!

What is a bit less bizarre is that I have witnessed a UFO with my own eyes. Why that is less bizarre is that at least I know on a personal level - without any information filters in between - that white orbs exist in the sky, are huge, move intelligently and travel enormously fast. I don't even have to believe either this or that about that experience, I can just conclude that's an undeniable experience I've had...


I agree that the 30 minute Corey Goode disclosure videos are a bizarre commercial set-up. Perhaps for this reason, I can’t suffer through them – they seem so ridiculous to me – is this really how “disclosure” about what’s really going on in the world is going to happen? By way of Gaiam TV for ten bucks a month?

I do remember my first realization that the stories being told on main stream TV were also bizarre. It was right after the Boston Marathon “bombing,” and the alternative media and so called conspiracy theorists – and even just some normal young techie types on Reddit –were actively looking at other potential perpetrators of the BMB than those offered to us (the Tsarnaevs). Pictures were being rapidly shared on the internet of Craft personnel at the scene and prior warnings about bomb drills by the Boston Globe and matching/unmatching backpacks and the official narrative was spiraling out of control quickly. So damage control had to step in, particularly to ostracize the “conspiracy theorists” and get the sheeple back to their pens. So there I was flipping through the TV channels trying to get more info about the event and I came upon Rachel Maddow of MSNBC holding up the official 911 Commission Report (why now? 11-12 years later?) and waving it around calling it the “authoritative” book on what really happened on 911. And this was literally weeks after I had come to realize it was all a big lie (yes, I was very late to the party) so it felt very surreal. I remember thinking: This is odd. Why is Maddow talking about 911 when the story should be about the BMB? And also: Well that’s a little bizarre, since Maddow was supposedly so critical of the Bush Administration and particularly Cheney….wouldn’t she be someone who might doubt the official narrative if she were really who she presented herself to be?

Then I turned the channel and got some other talking head on another station – this time a right-leaning one (it might have been O’Reilly on Fox but I forget now) and this person, who was supposed to have the exact opposite political/social/religious views, was remarkably spewing the same nonsense about the 911 Commission Report! Again, this was 11-12 years later! They were synchronizing the “NEWS,” telling their own liberal/conservative crowd of believers the same things. Reminding them about 911 so they wouldn't ask too many questions about the BMB! My left-right paradigm shattered immediately and my lingering belief in Main Stream reality instantly dissolved. Now it’s really a surreal experience to watch or read MSM news (and I rarely do, except for amusement). It comes across as so fake to me now, so utterly bizarre. It amazes me that more of my friends and family don't see this.

But now here I am, trying to figure out what IS real – and why we’re constantly lied to, day in and out, about almost everything. I have to believe (well, I don’t have to…..) that we poor surface dwellers are getting close to something big – something game-changing. Otherwise, the intentional dumbing down with GMOs, fluoride, really bad education systems, intentional disinfo, mass hypnosis, etc. doesn’t make much sense to me. I mean, wouldn’t it make more sense to have humanity more educated and more able to assist whoever is in charge to colonize more parts of space? If secret space programs are real, why not educate all of us to be able to participate in it and to learn to develop/use our psi skills – wouldn’t we be more useful then? Why have most of the population so dumbed down and in such poor shape/health that we are essentially useless? Even as a slave class, we wouldn’t even be able to mine gold in the conditions many are in…. So what makes sense to me right now (and this is ever changing) is that the PTB fears that we are getting too close to BECOMING AND KNOWING who and what we really are and what we are capable of, since once we all know, once energy is “free,” once we can all do the same things they can do, once we have developed our own psi skills, there are no more class distinctions – there are no more rulers. And I think for the PTB, that’s terrifying. What good is it to be a Psychopathic Ruler when no-one is under you?

Just musing here….I don’t know what to believe either. But that’s what makes sense to me at the moment.

[Jake]

I agree that the 30 minute Corey Goode disclosure videos are a bizarre commercial set-up. Perhaps for this reason, I can’t suffer through them – they seem so ridiculous to me – is this really how “disclosure” about what’s really going on in the world is going to happen? By way of Gaiam TV for ten bucks a month? 

If you want to believe Corey, then Yes! And you would believe that it was all at the request of higher beings that have the technology and the means to blockade the Solar System.. You would have to believe that the time is Now,, and theres no other way!! Must, pay money to Giaimtv,, so sayeth the Blue Bird People,, saviors of Earth. You would have to Believe that every person who has seen UFO since the -blockade- are whackos. You would have to believe that History hinges on Coreys Story. Furthermore, as it unravels you will be expected to feel sorry for him, no matter the wake of destruction he leaves behind. You will see apologists for him,, but you will never hear it from him..


You will have to believe that all of the burning bridges behind him are someone else's doing...

AND, you will be paying him for it!


No, don't BELIEVE any of it. I've watched lots of folks lament with regret because they believed him.


Theres more evidence that the earth is flat!!!


Good people, don't believe any of it. Go with what you Know!

Do you really believe that a single human is chosen by higher beings to be savior??? Thats what they told me in Sunday school,, wasnt true,, broke my heart!

Higher beings here to bring us into cooperation with a more advanced community??? That was the exact language used in the Indian Removal Act!!! History tells a different story..

if you want to believe that humans have no potentials without a savior then that is your right..

I dont buy it for one damn second!

Beliefs can be dangerous.
jake

[Ernie Nemeth]

Why not just not believe. And while at it not have faith. These things are crutches - they short circuit rationality.

I don't need to believe in myself or my daughter or you. I don't have to have faith in life or god or the earth or the sun. They just are.

But I do have to believe in my ability to formulate a logical sequence. And I have to have faith in god or Aurora or Corey. If I don't, they aren't.

Spirit doesn't need belief or faith to be real - it is in me.

What is real is, what isn't, isn't.

I don't know anything with certainty. And my belief or faith is just an opinion.

azxoVRTwlNg

:sun: :ROFL: :inlove:

:bowing:

[Bill Ryan]

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My first encounter with Corey Goode was in 2006, when he was a Project Camelot follower. I have all our early e-mail correspondence. He made it known he was an IT specialist, and a sensitive and controversial issue came up (connected with the Serpo affair, that was very heated at the time) in which I wanted to correctly identify IP addresses from several different e-mail headers, some from government contacts.

Corey was able to assist me with that, but the very next day he wrote to me saying he had to break off all contact because he and his wife had returned home one evening and found all the lights left on. He was very anxious, and felt it was a warning.

A while later, he wrote back to me saying that I could be reassured that it was all a false alarm, as his wife had reminded him that he had left the lights on himself.

This is a true story.

[Gardener]

Delight, I agree, this is something we can all check out first hand. Always go back to the first source, and test it, (sniff test works pretty good).

One person's stories are used to buttress further stories. For instance the "soul catcher" meme may have started with JZKnight in decades past. When one looks deep to where the first evidence is given, one may discover it was without evident base but repetition "makes it so". All it takes is one "authority" who creates a story that appeals to the audience.

Citizen-2, Is the title you gave to the thread a clue perhaps for the reason this kind of 'disclosure' might be sanctioned? The bluebird of happiness xwhistles a happy tunex......absorbing isn't it? :)

[mojo]

I want to believe... Where is even the smallest bit of evidence to support the case? In all that history Corey doesn't offer even one shred???? Big claims do require having proofs...Neil Armstrong brought moon rocks back, so why not Corey scooping a handful Martian pebbles or a unknown tool or tech item, a photo, a military record? Something he observed on Mars ie structures, that we can search through photo evidence from the rovers collection to verify. Or support Hoaglands claims of glass tubes and domes? What about telling us what species are using the craft caught on film around the world, the ETs in the famous Turkey video, or the famous Jerusalem UFO footage or for that matter the UFOs filmed in Oregon? To my knowledge he hasn't corroborated anything. He wasnt the first either to identify Blue avians, that claim goes to Bonnie Meyer.

[Mike]

I don't know what to believe either Citizen2. In fact, I stopped "believing" long ago. I'm just along for the ride. I consider myself an observer, nothing more/nothing less.

You may find that, like most of us you find a whistleblower testimony that rings true with you. But oh wait, NO!, this other guy makes alot of sense too... but his facts don't match up perfectly...so now what??? We had everything in a nice tidy box and now we're being forced to - GASP -think for ourselves??? Oh no!

I go to church with my Dad most Sundays. Not because I believe in the stuff but because I know my Dad appreciates it ..and its also a nice excuse to spend time with him. You gotta give the Catholic church credit man...they tell the same boring stories week in and week out and the people still show up. Depending on what church you go to, there is likely to be some variation of the story (stories). There are countless variations of the same story, and everyone is convinced their story is the right one. I think you know where I'm going with this...

We're no different. We're just mulching over the same ****. Day in n day out. It's all basically the same...but no no no it's the Mantids that created us, the reptilians are subservient--no, that's backwards it's the reptilians that run things, so n so said so--but so n so is a milab--oh he is, it's all a big psy op! Etc etc.

I don't think the most pertinent question here is whether Corey is telling the truth or not.....I think the most pertinent question is: who gives a sh!t? He's just introduced yet another fantasy into the equation. If we're gonna slap him we have to slap everyone else too. What's the difference if bird aliens in bubbles are protecting the galaxy or blue midgit aliens from the Pleiades??? How could anyone ever hope to know in the midst of all the disinformation that's out there???

The forum runs in a continuous loop of cycles, and it seems no one ever notices. In no particular order...

- someone will start a thread saying something like "do you all feel something? Something is happening..." this something is never specified but everyone lines up to confirm it. ("I feel it too!") Various astrological explanations are given for our strange feelings and we all nod gravely and wait for this vague event to arrive ....of course it never does.

-then a similar thread will pop up, because a Fulford or a Wilcock will claim "something is gonna happen" too. This excites various bands of people because whistleblower a,b, and c all seem to confirm it with their cadre of psychics and witch doctors.....this gains a little steam until once again, nothing happens.

-then a thread will arrive to justify the previous 2.....citing various time line dynamics responsible for none of the predictions coming to fruition. ("It's because of all the work we're doing" someone will inevitably say. What "work" this is is anyone's guess) and you get the feeling thru it all that people want the apocalypse to arrive, just like the religionists do, for various reasons I'm too tired to untangle here... but mainly to just say "I told you so"

-a whistleblower arrives on the forum..he's a big hero at first but soon things go sour. All the elements of this are debated ad nauseum until someone inevitably says "come on guys! Is this really that important? Let's get back to the important work we do here!" Again, this "work" remains unexplained, but 100 people line up to thank the post anyway.

....and then it starts all over again.

I like what Ernie said. Just stop believing in stuff....stuff that you can't confirm. John Lennon sang once "I believe in me...yoko and me...cuz that's real-ity". I know, I know, I don't like Yoko either but that's not the point...

Guys, it's as obvious as it's ever gonna be in this game that Corey is full of sh!t. Can we get on to the next thing already? Someone get a "feeling" that "something important is gonna happen real soon". I'll take that. I'm ready to turn the page. Hey hasn't Fulford predicted anything lately? Someone start a thread on that. Let's keep this cycle moving for gods sake! Pretty soon a new whistleblower will arrive and we'll have to be ready for him/her!

It's like Bill said: life is a game. It feels serious while you're playing it.. (paraphrase) I don't even know what my point is....Maybe it's that I'm feeling very discouraged because our game is no different/important than anyone elses.....I used to feel so important reading and discussing this stuff! LOL! I really did. I thought we were on to something....but we're just as lost as everyone else!

Hey, anyone else feel that? Oh I'm feeling it! Feeling it bigtime!......despair

[Harley]

-------

My first encounter with Corey Goode was in 2006, when he was a Project Camelot follower. I have all our early e-mail correspondence. He made it known he was an IT specialist, and a sensitive and controversial issue came up (connected with the Serpo affair, that was very heated at the time) in which I wanted to correctly identify IP addresses from several different e-mail headers, some from government contacts.

Corey was able to assist me with that, but the very next day he wrote to me saying he had to break off all contact because he and his wife had returned home one evening and found all the lights left on. He was very anxious, and felt it was a warning.

A while later, he wrote back to me saying that I could be reassured that it was all a false alarm, as his wife had reminded him that he had left the lights on himself.

This is a true story.

Get the picture:

He's been forming this reality of which he's found himself in for at least nine years.

Maybe he has had some "help" or maybe not, who's to say?

Either way, most would label it as delusional.

[Twain]

I don't know what to believe either Citizen2. In fact, I stopped "believing" long ago. I'm just along for the ride. I consider myself an observer, nothing more/nothing less.

You may find that, like most of us you find a whistleblower testimony that rings true with you. But oh wait, NO!, this other guy makes alot of sense too... but his facts don't match up perfectly...so now what??? We had everything in a nice tidy box and now we're being forced to - GASP -think for ourselves??? Oh no!

I go to church with my Dad most Sundays. Not because I believe in the stuff but because I know my Dad appreciates it ..and its also a nice excuse to spend time with him. You gotta give the Catholic church credit man...they tell the same boring stories week in and week out and the people still show up. Depending on what church you go to, there is likely to be some variation of the story (stories). There are countless variations of the same story, and everyone is convinced their story is the right one. I think you know where I'm going with this...

We're no different. We're just mulching over the same ****. Day in n day out. It's all basically the same...but no no no it's the Mantids that created us, the reptilians are subservient--no, that's backwards it's the reptilians that run things, so n so said so--but so n so is a milab--oh he is, it's all a big psy op! Etc etc.

I don't think the most pertinent question here is whether Corey is telling the truth or not.....I think the most pertinent question is: who gives a sh!t? He's just introduced yet another fantasy into the equation. If we're gonna slap him we have to slap everyone else too. What's the difference if bird aliens in bubbles are protecting the galaxy or blue midgit aliens from the Pleiades are?? How could anyone ever hope to know in the midst of all the disinformation that's out there???

The forum runs in a continuous loop of cycles, and it seems no one ever notices. In no particular order...

- someone will start a thread saying something like "do you all feel something? Something is happening..." this something is never specified but everyone lines up to confirm it. ("I feel it too!") Various astrological explanations are given for our strange feelings and we all nod gravely and wait for this vague event to arrive ....of course it never does.

-then a similar thread will pop up, because a Fulford or a Wilcock will claim "something is gonna happen" too. This excites various bands of people because whistleblower a,b, and c all seem to confirm it with their cadre of psychics and witch doctors.....this gains a little steam until once again, nothing happens.

-then a thread will arrive to justify the previous 2.....citing various time line dynamics responsible for none of the predictions coming to fruition. ("It's because of all the work we're doing" someone will inevitably say. What "work" this is is anyone's guess) and you get the feeling thru it all that people want the apocalypse to arrive, just like the religionists do, for various reasons I'm too tired to untangle here... but mainly to just say "I told you so"

-a whistleblower arrives on the forum..he's a big hero at first but soon things go sour. All the elements of this are debated ad nauseum until someone inevitably says "come on guys! Is this really that important? Let's get back to the important work we do here!" Again, this "work" remains unexplained, but 100 people line up to thank the post anyway.

....and then it starts all over again.

I like what Ernie said. Just stop believing in stuff....stuff that you can't confirm. John Lennon sang once "I believe in me...yoko and me...cuz that's real-ity". I know, I know, I don't like Yoko either but that's not the point...

Guys, it's as obvious as it's ever gonna be in this game that Corey is full of sh!t. Can we get on to the next thing already? Someone get a "feeling" that "something important is gonna happen real soon". I'll take that. I'm ready to turn the page. Hey hasn't Fulford predicted anything lately? Someone start a thread on that. Let's keep this cycle moving for gods sake! Pretty soon a new whistleblower will arrive and we'll have to be ready for him/her!

It's like Bill said: life is a game. It feels serious while you're playing it.. (paraphrase) I don't even know what my point is....Maybe it's that I'm feeling very discouraged because our game is no different/important than anyone elses.....I used to feel so important reading and discussing this stuff! LOL! I really did. I thought we were on to something....but we're just as lost as everyone else!

Hey, anyone else feel that? Oh I'm feeling it! Feeling it bigtime!......despair

~Yea I'm feeling it too~.

Gotta wonder about the people who've paraded all these whistleblowers around for years. Were they fooled too? Seems like nothing they've said came true. Hmm

You've described the Avalon whistleblower cycle of disillusionment, cognitive dissonance and shared delusion well, in ways that I think some people wouldn't dare say. They just leave.

There's a fresh crop of actors out there. Hard to tell the nutters from the actors though, but for me, after years spent observing these cycles, I'm pretty much done with whistler-blowhards. Put up or shut up, 'Coreys', Drakes, and Tolecs. There's hardly any difference between scam artists that charge you for empty bags, or those that ask only for donations.

[Innocent Warrior]

I don't know what to believe either Citizen2.......

The tasks are many and, to put it simply, the work is to be us. Experimenting with free energy, raising awareness about chemtrails, research (real research, not that outdated stuff they teach us in university), healing, etc etc... we're the builders of a free world.

I think we're on the same page, with the insiders and the whistleblowers who's claims can't be substantiated. I've lost interest in them. There are more efficient and effective ways to find the answers we seek. Look at the knowledge researchers have contributed, brilliant.

It's never wise to be absolute about these things, so if an insider comes along, gives us a heads up, helps us in some substantial way, then great. But if we need to believe, need to follow a series of articles, posts, episodes, in the hope they're a real insider who will come through with the goods....no, I don't believe, no time for that, we've got a free world to build.

[KiwiElf]

Totally agree Mike - I'm not sure what to believe any more... but the ride is certainly getting.... "interesting" ;)

[Jake]

I know a real MILAB.. This person is broken. This person is watching the word MILAB become another word to laugh at..

This person does not have a wordrobe person or a makeup person or PR people or spokespeople, or media contracts.

After Corey, will MILABS be a laughing stock, ridiculed and scorn,, like abductees who suffered because of all the false reporting? Keep yer eye on the ball...

The MILAB information that is coming out is being GAMED...


Do you think that it doesnt hurt anyone, if his story turns out to be BS? Stay tuned!


As for a cosmic wave of love? Go ahead and send that on over, no need for the announcement...

jake

[william r sanford72]

could it bee....

cpbbuaIA3Ds


truth and balance

[Ruby]

I put this comment on the Giam TV under one of their videos but I don't know for sure if it will show up, so I'm posting my feelings here:

If the Sphere beings and the Avians are truly serious about “full disclosure” then they should first be honest with us and fully disclose and explain to us what they are, who they are, and where they came from and why they are here. They should disclose to us what their true purpose and agenda is, within this construct we experience as our physical reality, at this particular time. They should also fully disclose who the other three races are who are here with them as their allies and why are they hiding? How and why should humanity trust them if they remain mysterious and cloaked in mystery. We, humanity, have been lied to and manipulated for thousands of years and we have no reason to trust them. Bird species are from the reptilian family. They are not humans. You said their message is that they are NOT our “saviors” and that we should focus on raising our consciousness and be more loving etc. Okay, so we got their message loud and clear and we have been hearing that message through out time from gurus and churches. They are not here to “save us,” so they should probably just go away and leave us alone, because apparently we have no need for them, - particularly if they are not going to fully disclose to us who they are and what their true agenda is. As a human, I see no reason for them to be here and I don’t give consent to them being here. We got their message, and they are not our saviors so who needs them? Now they can leave. The message of “love and forgiveness” has been given to us humans for thousands of years and used by the negative forces before to gain our trust, and they are very good at deception. We have no reason to believe them, they are not here to "save us." So what good are they and what is their agenda?

[Mike]

Mods, I was thinking that maybe we should merge this with the "Flat Earth" thread...

[robinr1]

Mods, I was thinking that maybe we should merge this with the "Flat Earth" thread...


why ? if it bothers you that much...just don't read it...geez

[Fellow Aspirant]

I think that these are fair questions.

B.

[OMG]

ukpPtzvracg

Nothing wrong with the “Ruby” question(s).

Corey’s story is amazing. Without firsthand experience though I guess there are limited ways to verify it so we will have to wait and see. In the mean time we can ask all the questions we want and speculate to our hearts content.

A few things popped up in my mind after watching episode 1 (above).

1. Corey has stated that we must do the work ourselves and the Blue Avians, etc, are not our saviors. Yet as I understand it they are intervening in regards to the negative alien beings who are responsible for the cabal here on earth and elsewhere in our solar system. So the BIG question is where do these Blue Avians draw the line between what problems we can or are suppose to fix vs. all of the centuries of negative intervention from the negative cabal leaders and their technology, etc. How are we suppose to determine and over ride ALL of the centuries influences and ramifications of what the negative aliens and cabal have done if we are suppose to do it ourselves?

So this aligns with Ruby’s question. We can’t ever hope to FIX ALL of this damage by ourselves unless we have ALL of the facts. And we can’t know ALL of the facts if things are compartmentalized by a select few as it is still being done, even if the earth alliance members supposedly have our best interest in mind.

2. Corey says they (Blue Avians) have tried this three times before. What does that mean? From the video it seems that one of the main reasons the Blue Avians are here is to help reduce the negative repercussions of the energy waves that our planet is going through as it enters a certain part of the universe. And without their help many people would go crazy. So what have they helped us with three times before exactly?

3. On a curious note...the Blue Avians can appear any way they want and have chosen this bird like form. Then you got the reptilians, mantis, feline and even dog looking races, etc. But why is it that humans don’t look like they evolved or are part of any animals/reptiles and yet advance aliens races do? I guess some could claim we sort of look like monkeys but that’s a stretch when these other races look decisively like what we would consider lower level type animals here on earth. (Although I believe ALL life is precious and I don’t mean to imply lower type animals are of less value than we are, but they don’t generally use their intellect like we do, etc.)

So why are advance races using animal forms when, traditionally speaking, humans have dominion over animals, a.k.a. the beast?

:)

[ThePythonicCow]

I put this comment on the Giam TV under one of their videos but I don't know for sure if it will show up, so I'm posting my feelings here:


Mods, I was thinking that maybe we should merge this with the "Flat Earth" thread...


Nothing wrong with the “Ruby” question(s).

Corey’s story is amazing. Without firsthand experience though I guess there are limited ways to verify it so we will have to wait and see. In the mean time we can ask all the questions we want and speculate to our hearts content.
Instead of merging it into a flat earth thread, I merged this "DISCLOSURE: MESSAGE TO THE Sphere being and Avians and Corey Goode, David Wilcock." thread in with the thread "What to Believe........." thread on this same topic. I will neither confirm nor deny that I did not want to insult the flat earthers <grin>.

We have now had this same Gaim TV interview of Corey Goode by David Wilcock posted some six times on this forum. Enough already ...

¤=[Post Update]=¤


... I just don't really know anymore.

Take Corey Goode. His information hits all the right buttons, tying together so many pieces of disparate information into one, neat, digestible story.

I added the qualifier "(Wilcock interviews Corey Goode on GaimTV - July 2015)" to this threads title, to be more specific

[Ruby]

I came to see if there was any reaction to my thread and low and behold I could barely find it in this maize. By the way, since I did not even mention anything about the flat earth theory I am wondering why you would suggest you merge this with a Flat earth thread.

When I read and evaluate information I never make fun of it or instantly reject it as B.S. until I fully consider it with an open mind. I am a person who is dedicated to truth, and I am very serious about this. You can never expect to find truth if you are all tied up with your own personal beliefs that you are not willing to let go of.

I have carefully been listening to Corey Goode and going down a few more different and very strange rabbit holes to find reasons why I should or should not trust this information. I base my investigation on the premise that what he is saying is the truth first. I don't just reject it. Then I ask the question, if what he says is true... then what else can I learn about this information. (I have learned quite a bit.) But this particular post, that you wanted to put with the "Flat earth" thread for some reason, are my questions I posed directly to these Sphere Beings and Avians, (if indeed they actually exist which has not been proven.)

I was told before I joined this group that it was dedicated to finding truth but some of the posts I have read in here seem to be from very closed minds. I want to share my opinion of something. This is a very strange reality that we live in, and you would be wise to ask yourself the "what if everything you have ever been told is a lie?" question.

I am suggesting that everything you have been told up to this point about this world and this reality is a lie. EVERYTHING. A few examples: Gravity, science, the history of man, popular history, everything on the media, religion, you name it. Now, take a serious look at the proof that NASA has for the earth being a globe and compare it scientifically to the Flat Earth facts. Flat earth experiments win every time. Surprise surprise. But that's another subject.

Back to Cory Goode and the Sphere Alliance. The questions I asked were posted TO HIM AND DAVID WILCOCK to think about. It was not to try to convince any of the skeptics on this group of anything. The fact is, Corey is a computer tech and a virtual systems engineer. That is why this sphere alliance consciousness are using him, but that is not the only reason. (If you believe the story at all, and for this purpose, lets assume its true.) Why would they choose him? BECAUSE (and I got this from a very deep rabbit hole)- these Sphere Beings are a group of non physical or semi-physical sentient artificial intelligence units. (or souls) They are parasitic and they require hosts. They have an agenda with humans, and like many of the other "aliens" you are hearing about they want to take human DNA and create a hybrid or a clone that they can integrate with to use in 3D reality.

So that is my information. You can make fun of it if you like I don't much care. Corey could be telling a tall tail but on the off chance he is not, there are many things to consider. I have pretty much decided that if the Spere Beings are real, they are liars and have a very nasty agenda, and they are desperate. If they fail in their mission, they could basically turn back into space dust because they, being Artificial Intelligence with no connection to source, cannot create anything, and do not have any template to construct a body for the 3D reality matrix.

So if no one appreciates the time I took to enter this information, I will probably think about not wasting any more time here in this truth finding forum.

Sincerely, Ruby

[ThePythonicCow]

When I read and evaluate information I never make fun of it or instantly reject it as B.S.
Perhaps you didn't notice, but the conclusions of some of us are not instant.

Yes, this forum is here to support those seeking better, more truthful, understanding of a variety of topics.

Yes, we have been lied to, big time, on every topic of note, though that doesn't mean that something is true just because it is contrary to the main stream.

Yes, this does actually mean discerning truth from nonsense, and more importantly, from elaborate psyops.

Yes, we are each, individually, at different places on this path.

Yes, some of us will reach conclusions just as others arrive and complain of a "rush to judgement."

Yes, we do discourage the use of a barrage of rhetorical fallacies and innuendo. We are engaged in a community effort to support each other and to raise our shared understanding. We appreciate "quality workmanship", clear thinking, integrity, higher awareness, various experiences and expertise, grounded feeling, and genuine support for humanity and this planet.

No, I will not be personally disappointed if you choose not to waste more time with us.

[Ruby]

Nothing wrong with the “Ruby” question(s).

Corey’s story is amazing. Without firsthand experience though I guess there are limited ways to verify it so we will have to wait and see. In the mean time we can ask all the questions we want and speculate to our hearts content.

A few things popped up in my mind after watching episode 1 (above).

1. Corey has stated that we must do the work ourselves and the Blue Avians, etc, are not our saviors. Yet as I understand it they are intervening in regards to the negative alien beings who are responsible for the cabal here on earth and elsewhere in our solar system. So the BIG question is where do these Blue Avians draw the line between what problems we can or are suppose to fix vs. all of the centuries of negative intervention from the negative cabal leaders and their technology, etc. How are we suppose to determine and over ride ALL of the centuries influences and ramifications of what the negative aliens and cabal have done if we are suppose to do it ourselves?

So this aligns with Ruby’s question. We can’t ever hope to FIX ALL of this damage by ourselves unless we have ALL of the facts. And we can’t know ALL of the facts if things are compartmentalized by a select few as it is still being done, even if the earth alliance members supposedly have our best interest in mind.

2. Corey says they (Blue Avians) have tried this three times before. What does that mean? From the video it seems that one of the main reasons the Blue Avians are here is to help reduce the negative repercussions of the energy waves that our planet is going through as it enters a certain part of the universe. And without their help many people would go crazy. So what have they helped us with three times before exactly?

3. On a curious note...the Blue Avians can appear any way they want and have chosen this bird like form. Then you got the reptilians, mantis, feline and even dog looking races, etc. But why is it that humans don’t look like they evolved or are part of any animals/reptiles and yet advance aliens races do? I guess some could claim we sort of look like monkeys but that’s a stretch when these other races look decisively like what we would consider lower level type animals here on earth. (Although I believe ALL life is precious and I don’t mean to imply lower type animals are of less value than we are, but they don’t generally use their intellect like we do, etc.)

So why are advance races using animal forms when traditionally speaking humans have dominion over animals, a.k.a. the beast?

:)



My response to some of your questions are based on the premise that Corey is telling us what he believes to be true, and based on the premise that the Sphere Beings are real and also based on other information I have read.

1. The bird beings are from the reptilian family line. They are not humans, although they are called "humanoid" in structure. They could possibly be a semi-physical race, meaning that under normal circumstances they cannot operate for very long in 3D reality and probably wear bracelets or some energy device to make themselves visible for meetings.

My problem with them is they are not being transparent, (pun not intended, LOL) thus I am going to conclude that they are not being honest, and they are withholding something from us about their true agenda. That alone is reason enough to break contact with them for lack of trust and tell them to get lost, leave the solar system.

Yet we, being naive humans. still listen to their claims and are happy to believe that they are our allies, even though they insist that they are not here to "save" us and don't want us to worship them. (Don't worry about that guys, it ain't gonna happen this time.) Yet they are 'claiming' to be intervening against the negative cabal leaders here on earth who have enslaved us. Are they really? If they are, then it is more similar to a pack of hyena's intervening on a lion's kill to steal the prize.

Their "three times before" remark probably refers to the ancient civilizations and how various reptilian and naga races tinkered with the human body in the past. They have been trying to create hybrid bodies that could integrate with their soul families for three other cycles. This one was the fourth and last. It is the end of the experiment on humanity. The next cycle will be for humanity only and they will not be allowed to experiment on humans any more. Their time is up!

The human being form was engineered from the Cro Magnon man template. We did not evolve from apes. The Cro Magnon template was originally created on Mars. Neanderthal was the earth's human body and it was not chosen for this experiment.

Without going into my theories any further, the Spear Beings, I believe, are A.I. units and are non-physical. They require hosts, much like the Archons and probably are possessing and controlling the Bird races that are the Blue Avians. These Sphere beings have very little emotions and do not experience love or compassion. They are like robots and are simply sentient computer intelligence in an energetic form. To them, "God" is simply "Data."

What they do have, is impressive technology. That is all they have. They do not have what humanity has, and that is imagination and creativity. The ability to create, and feel emotions. Once the new age begins, they will be gone and they have failed to create a physical human body that they can integrate with. They would trade all their technology for one human being's full DNA template. They cannot access it.

[Ruby]

For Paul, administrator:

I apologize if I reacted by getting a tad offended with the Flat earth remark. I find the flat earth theory quite interesting and even valid although at first I thought it was quite ridiculous myself. Anyway, yes we do need to discern some of these elaborate psyops and there are a lot of them. Believe it or not I even evaluate information from NASA and the mainstream but mostly I find agenda's there rather than truth.

I assure you and anyone else here that I am not pushing any agenda other than information to be looked at. Every person must evaluate and decide for themselves if it is anything they can use. I have found a lot of great links and resources on this club and I appreciate it very much.

[KiwiElf]

Might be connected, maybe not. When Wilcock was about to release these video-interviews, his website, Divine Cosmos went down for "unexplained reasons" and his main hard drive attacked and destroyed. Check out the blurb on David's site:



david_wilcock The four theories are 1.Hard Drive Crash, 2.RAID Failure, http://t.co/W6MK9BuVYl Issue and 4. CPanel Self-Update Problem. They do not know!
Jul 27 • reply • retweet • favorite
david_wilcock I felt like the "Big Man on Campus" at the health food store... got recognized by something like six different people. All good vibes. :)
Jul 27 • reply • retweet • favorite
david_wilcock Our server has NO IDEA what caused our site to go down all weekend, right during the launch of Cosmic Disclosure. There are FOUR theories.
Jul 27 • reply • retweet • favorite
david_wilcock A hard drive on our site was attacked and destroyed. Thankfully it is on a RAID system so we shouldn't lose anything -- other than time. :(
Jul 26 • reply • retweet • favorite
david_wilcock We got well over half a year of episodes in the can after this week. The amount of "negative greeting" has been insane. Will detail later.
Jul 24 • reply • retweet • favorite


http://www.divinecosmos.com/

[Twain]

Might be connected, maybe not. When Wilcock was about to release these video-interviews, his website, Divine Cosmos went down for "unexplained reasons" and his main hard drive attacked and destroyed. Check out the blurb on David's site:



david_wilcock The four theories are 1.Hard Drive Crash, 2.RAID Failure, http://t.co/W6MK9BuVYl Issue and 4. CPanel Self-Update Problem. They do not know!
Jul 27 • reply • retweet • favorite
david_wilcock I felt like the "Big Man on Campus" at the health food store... got recognized by something like six different people. All good vibes. :)
Jul 27 • reply • retweet • favorite
david_wilcock Our server has NO IDEA what caused our site to go down all weekend, right during the launch of Cosmic Disclosure. There are FOUR theories.
Jul 27 • reply • retweet • favorite
david_wilcock A hard drive on our site was attacked and destroyed. Thankfully it is on a RAID system so we shouldn't lose anything -- other than time. :(
Jul 26 • reply • retweet • favorite
david_wilcock We got well over half a year of episodes in the can after this week. The amount of "negative greeting" has been insane. Will detail later.
Jul 24 • reply • retweet • favorite


http://www.divinecosmos.com/

That could be manufactured drama to hype the series. He had vested interests in Corey and Gaiam. I won't watch, but for train wrecks and lessons learned. I think they are both frauds, which is sad. Not even part of me considers them legit, unless they are under duress and doing what they are told to do. Sadder yet.

Blue Avians could be a metaphor. Some dude just posted an interesting take on Corey on another forum.

Spy Games...

(Edited to keep the OP format and links)


The fact is, he's a self professed "contactee"

Here's a long list of them, all with convoluted stories and no proof, just proven frauds in the mix.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contactee

One angle on contactees is that some were connected to intelligence agencies for the purposes:

-to disinform, confuse the subject of UFO's which around WW2 they (ufos) might have been only secret technology.

-to pass intelligence, espionage, in coded form, where Adamski's Orthon, for instance, was a code word, or an entire narrative was a metaphor for something related to defense or espionage. It would take a cipher to decode the messages. Spy Games.

Who knows, but the CODED MEANINGS, metaphor theory could hold true, which would be even more fascinating given the people involved (who's who?)

Now, check Corey's Google profile. He'll claim it was setup years ago by disinformation agents, as he claimed about his linkedin which disappeared and then reappeared without reference to masonry (he pissed them off).

https://plus.google.com/109351196653443445685/about

Quote:
"Story

Introduction
Network/VM/CITRIX Support/Security since 1995 to the present after being in the Physical/Electronic Surveillance Security Field. INFJ Personality Type

I am also a HAM Operator: KE5UNV. SPC, TXSG 2nd BT 19th Reg C4I. I have actively practiced RV since 1998 to Present. I have also become an activist for Military, Law Enforcement and Disaster first responders who suffer from PTSD, Traumatic Brain Injuries and Seizure Disorders related to these disabilities. Why? Because I have suffered this discrimination myself. Working in the past for Microsoft, XO Communications, ABSG/US Bio (Pharma company that produces flu vaccines etc)... and Beal Bank, Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, Citigroup Bank and Santander (Bank of Spain). I have witnessed extreme corruption. Being in the IT field you are basically invisible while helping support teleconference calls and meetings where executives speak freely and openly as though the IT person is wearing a cloak of invisibility. Other IT people can verify this. Postings here will be of family fun as well as recorded corruption I have taken from some (Not all) of the companies above."
End quote.

If Corey had dirt on big wigs and corporate conglomerates, he could be giving that info out in coded form. See?

This has been a theory since Blavatsky's days, that she was a Russian spy, where only Initiates could understand fully her Secret Doctrines, ie. other spies--running as masons or not--because she was a mason, as most occultists (alt media stars) are then and now, whether we know it or not.

Who has the cipher?

Just theories...

Or they're all nuts.

That's a fascinating scenario, which could make him a unsung hero, should it be true of him and others, and offer a deeper motivation. But, it is a bit far fetched THEORY there.

[OMG]

Here is the link to both FREE videos (PART ONE and TWO)

http://www.gaiamtv.com/seeking-truth/lp-cosmic-disclosure

I don't think Corey is lying consciously. His eyes, language, tone, face and body language are sincere. Now whether or not he is brainwashed/controlled, imprinted with false memories, or possibly been shown false things via a holodeck device, etc, who knows.

[Delight]

This is a very strange reality that we live in, and you would be wise to ask yourself the "what if everything you have ever been told is a lie?" question.

I am suggesting that everything you have been told up to this point about this world and this reality is a lie. EVERYTHING. A few examples: Gravity, science, the history of man, popular history, everything on the media, religion, you name it.

I liked the questions you suggested earlier.

This is a very strange experience...being in this ? reality. IMO It seems that the more we open to the lack of certainty, the more evidence appears as to the greater mystery.
My opinion is that one will never get to the bottom of the mentally "understood" rabbit hole. In the mean time, I feel positively bored with the starwars meme. I am filled with ennui concerning "commerce" as humans practice it being a universal impulse.

I consider it quite likely that we humans are hairless mammals because we recently were sea creatures come back to land. When the Dogon talk of the ancestors being in the sea, I wonder about THAT connection to us.

My imagination was always sure that chickens are dinosaurs. The chicken has what appears to be a small brain but MY chickens are VERY intelligent. They plan many things based on experience. Why not honor the bird tribe as warm blooded reptilian hybrids? I LOVE the bird tribe and how Ken Carey imagined it into my life.

My issue with the likes of the "whistle blowers" is that out of all the possible lines of thought, there is a mass consumption in the alt "truther" community of tales of the wild western with cowboys, weaponized wargames, hardware galore. This is an adventure type escapade that IMO adolescent males will appreciate. That tells me something about who is imagining what when and how.

I have a peculiar suspicion that for these guys, it will pan out and for me Nah. I will have a another tale to appear before my holographic eyes.

Humans are mamalian based. Before humans I have no idea who walked on the earth and thought they were "gods". Every time we interfere in any way with nature, we are actually playing god. It isn't size tat matters so much as intent.

We have played god over other creatures by putting them in zoos ourselves. I think it may be that we project these niggling conscience related "issues" of our air conditioning, our food sources of meat and other relevant questions that lie much deeper than banksters and other evidence.

The body is made up of trillions of smaller whole organic life forms in community. If I were a cellular being and not the avatar of my community, I'd possibly have a bit of self interest.

To belong to a qualitative reality and not a quantitative one takes a change of focus. In the quantitative model, size matters. In the qualitative one, there is a major factor which we have yet IMO to appreciate. Killing an ant and killing anything bigger is just the scale. This is a mystery I appreciate as to how belonging to community could change. I love the idea of metanoia... a whole scale change of mind.

[RunningDeer]

I busted out in a laugh with Mike’s “merge this with the "Flat Earth" thread….” The day we loose our sense of humor is the day we succumb to A.I. and it’s ilk.

Humor is alternative medicine. The ability to laugh and laugh at one’s self is part of the human experience. I get there’s a time and a place, but a small injection of levity is a reminder to see that life isn’t only about perceived serious business.

:offtopic:

[Mike]

I busted out in a laugh with Mike’s “merge this with the "Flat Earth" thread….” The day we loose our sense of humor is the day we succumb to A.I. and it’s ilk.

Humor is alternative medicine. The ability to laugh and laugh at one’s self is part of the human experience. I get there’s a time and a place, but a small injection of levity is a reminder to see that live isn’t only about perceived serious business.

:offtopic:


Hey thanks Paula!:bigsmile:

I saw that Paul got it....but I was beginning to worry about everyone else!:facepalm:

No disrespect Ruby! I was just being silly. I thought that was obvious. Sorry if you took offense!

P.s. it needs to be said: i once started a 'hollow earth' thread...so I really have no ground to stand on

[Bill Ryan]

i once started a 'hollow earth' thread...so I really have no ground to stand on

If that was an intended pun, it was a very good one. :bigsmile:

:focus:

[Delight]

Everyone has humor, some of us have more popular humor. I would be dead today without a dry sort of humor about my serious humorless aspects. Barking perspectives. Funny to me.

http://i.imgur.com/qZZxBP5.jpg

https://www.painscience.com/imgs/power-of-barking-xl.jpg

I Chihuaha also believe in the power of barking. I bark at everything, even my own image in the mirror (in case it is a shadow being). I bark all of the day except when I am sleeping. This is all that has kept me alive because everytime I bark, someone says Hush (which means you are such a fine barker). I am quiet for a moment to hear these words of praise and then my someone gives me the life giving biscuit.

[Ruby]

I busted out in a laugh with Mike’s “merge this with the "Flat Earth" thread….” The day we loose our sense of humor is the day we succumb to A.I. and it’s ilk.

Humor is alternative medicine. The ability to laugh and laugh at one’s self is part of the human experience. I get there’s a time and a place, but a small injection of levity is a reminder to see that life isn’t only about perceived serious business.

:offtopic:

I do have a sense of humor and I sometimes laugh at the most horrific inappropriate things. My first reaction to the Flat earth suggestion was "Oh they have a flat earth thread? How exciting!" then, I wondered what my post had to do with the Flat earth theory, and THEN I realized it was a joke. (I'm a little slow I guess) It is because I take my dedication to truth very strait forward and seriously. I come from a personality that used sarcasm and wit on daily basis so I understand its function. In my effort to open my mind I have had to incorporate something called objectivity and logic to stay grounded, as I investigate a lot of pretty strange things.
And truth is stranger than fiction.

[Lost N Found]

I think I might have said this on another thread already but this whole affair reminds me of the Drake threads that were so prevailant back in 2012 or so. This brain'thought controlled troll has everybody paying attention to him and good ole David Wilcock got sucked into it so bad it stinks. These nuts are doing nothing but selling themselves and their paraphernalia and to bring it back to that Drake character, he was selling the whole idea that he was some kind of insider that kept getting info that the good military was going to come to our rescue. How many years ago was that? Oh by the way it was always only a few weeks out.

Now this Creepy Goode fellow is telling us all this junk about going to some secret meeting on mars and something about a blue bird race. Oh yes David Wilcock jumped at this nut because he was spouting crap that fit right into Wilcock's books and the Giam Tv thingy. Now remember, Wilcock made a big deal about his Divine Cosmos web sit being hacked just before he got the Goode to get everything on Giam and create some new site called Divine Cosmos. More crap to create more money for the creepy boys.

I like and understand what all of you are saying about this sham So I do know that most our awake and see right through this. It will be very sad when the dust settles and a whole lot of folks find themselves sucked dry for everything they had believing that they will or were supposed to be saved. Hey here is another sham that people jumped on board, something called the RV, good God how long has that been going on? My thoughts and feelings may not mean a damn thing but at least I can see through these shenanigans In this world of NSA, FBI The Clintons, The Bushes and the rotten Corporations that run everything we really do have to be on guard. It seems everything is a lie and the truth is against the law and dangerous. Well on a brighter note Peace and love to you all.

Love and Light
Lost N Found .

[Frenchy]

Betoobig,
Juan, I wrote before, that I woked as a Coach Driver in London, where some of the lovliest people I ever met, came from Isreal and Burgos..............

Whatever difficulty you encounter, in life, just ' Step-back ' a moment, detach yourself from the weight of any problems;

Allow yourself the time and Peace, to look around you and see more clearly, the real Beauty of the people around you....

I add, the Tour guide, ( from Burgos, too ) told me, that
" I need some extra money, so I work here for the Summer:but, back in Burgos, I have my Garden, my Friends, my Family;
but, above all, you can feel the Friendship and love all around there ... "


I've only seen a few of your posts andsome replies, these show unfailingly, that you too are a kind and loving Man.

Courage, for the Dark days, remember, the GLOBAL wave of rising awareness of our Humanity and Spirit, builds and builds...

Frenchy !

[WildOrchid]

“In wartime, truth is so precious that she
should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies.”
Winston S. Churchill

I think above quote just about sums it.
These interviews were great entertainment while I was sipping my afternoon coffee. :coffee:

Two guys facing each other talking in front of a camera. Sounding all very hopeful and wonderful. But actions always speak louder than words and I could not observe too much in that department.
What cracked me up was the "sphere being gift shop" http://spherebeingalliance.com/store :ROFL:
How is this supposed to fit into the big picture?

So as for me...
I watch, I read, I listen....
I believe and trust only in what I can personally observe, see or perceive.
I prepare for the worst, but always DREAM for the BEST!

[Robin]

What cracked me up was the "sphere being gift shop" http://spherebeingalliance.com/store :ROFL:
How is this supposed to fit into the big picture?


I'm still wondering why The Sphere-Being Alliance's logo looks remarkably similar to the United Nations logo...


http://www.spherebeingalliance.com/thumb.php?src=e_MEDIA_IMAGE%2F2015-06%2FSphere_Alliance_LOGO.jpg&w=900&h=300

http://www.mpsaz.org/mtnview/activities/classroom_groups/model_un/images/un_logo.gif

[WildOrchid]

What cracked me up was the "sphere being gift shop" http://spherebeingalliance.com/store :ROFL:
How is this supposed to fit into the big picture?


I'm still wondering why The Sphere-Being Alliance's logo looks remarkably similar to the United Nations logo...


http://www.spherebeingalliance.com/thumb.php?src=e_MEDIA_IMAGE%2F2015-06%2FSphere_Alliance_LOGO.jpg&w=900&h=300

http://www.mpsaz.org/mtnview/activities/classroom_groups/model_un/images/un_logo.gif

My thought also....

[spacejack]

Hey

I can't pay for the subscription to access the Corey Goode interviews on GaiamTV. Does anyone have a copy downloaded that they can share? I don't want to pirate the video, but if we can pretend I watched it off your screen (we can do a screenshare).

I was surprised they want to charge for that content. I get its the business model but we have to share this info as much as possible.

Can we do this?

[Jake]

Hey

I can't pay for the subscription to access the Corey Goode interviews on GaiamTV. Does anyone have a copy downloaded that they can share? I don't want to pirate the video, but if we can pretend I watched it off your screen (we can do a screenshare).

I was surprised they want to charge for that content. I get its the business model but we have to share this info as much as possible.

Can we do this?

Project Avalon does not indorse the pirating of Brands or Products, not puplic, or private. I'm sure you understand. :) The guidelines are quite clear on this specific matter..

Jake