The only safe vaccine is one that is never used

[The One]

(My opinion) Imagine just for one minute that everyone who’s had some sort of vaccine we have slowly sentenced ourselves to death. Imagine if humans are supposed to live longer than what we are supposed to

More people get cancer that takes the vaccines, than those who do not. In the UK they plan to give every teenage girl free vaccine to supposedly protect them from cervical cancer. Independent scientific evidence shows that there is no link between the HPV Papilloma virus and cancer,

http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?t=621

[conk]

The cerivical cancer vaccine makers are pushing for use in BOYS. Can you get your mind around such insanity? Er, ah, boys don't have a cervix!

All manner of detox methods should be used by anyone who has submitted to vaccines in the past. The unbiased evidence clearly shows an agenda that stinks. The drug companies have been caught red-handed doing egregious things.....again and again. The first 'oops, we made a mistake' doesn't work when you get caught time and time again.

Women in African villages run and hide, screaming "here come the baby killers", at the sight of doctors bearing vaccines. These poor ignorant people KNOW they are going to be 'tested'. Why don't educated people across the world get it?

Illnesses perhaps brought on by bacteria or viruses occur on a bell curve of sorts. The natural fall off of incidences at the top of the curve is attributed to the introduction of the vaccine. The vaccine did not help, the disease was dying off anyway!

Vaccines = death and disease. Never doubt this! Sadly, it seems to be by design.

[Teakai]

The cerivical cancer vaccine makers are pushing for use in BOYS. Can you get your mind around such insanity? Er, ah, boys don't have a cervix!

All manner of detox methods should be used by anyone who has submitted to vaccines in the past. The unbiased evidence clearly shows an agenda that stinks. The drug companies have been caught red-handed doing egregious things.....again and again. The first 'oops, we made a mistake' doesn't work when you get caught time and time again.

Women in African villages run and hide, screaming "here come the baby killers", at the sight of doctors bearing vaccines. These poor ignorant people KNOW they are going to be 'tested'. Why don't educated people across the world get it?
Illnesses perhaps brought on by bacteria or viruses occur on a bell curve of sorts. The natural fall off of incidences at the top of the curve is attributed to the introduction of the vaccine. The vaccine did not help, the disease was dying off anyway!

Vaccines = death and disease. Never doubt this! Sadly, it seems to be by design.

Seems they're not so ignorant then.
We've got buckets of information available to us - and we still vacinate. Seems we're the ignorant ones.
They don't need to force us - we just line up for it. Frankly, I blame the education system :lol:

[Seikou-Kishi]

What sort of detox is possible?

[Sidney]

My understanding, is that cervical cancer is (supposedly) caused, in some cases, by HPV, a VIRUS, sexually transmitted disease. They targeted young women and girls, the last 5 years for the vaccine. If you watch tv at all, you remember the ad campaign that came out a few years ago. There has been controversy over the fact that boys also get HPV, the virus, and in turn infect girls. Two way street. So now they are targeting boys.

Gee, I wonder whats "really" in that vaccine.

[witchy1]

Apparently (no dont have link) but Nuns who are virgins dont get cervical cancer. (Nuns whos have had even just one encounter have the same risk profile as the rest of us ) They studied this goup to prove the copulation theory
I also understand that the earlier you start increases the risk, but that could just be bu** shi* So starchild111 this would prove your statement.


They don't need to force us - we just line up for it. Frankly, I blame the education system

Hey T, When I enrolled Sam in school, I had to prove (show them) that his vaccinations were up to date before they would accept him....regular primary school in NZ. He hadnt had them all, I was awakening then - so fudged it. Showed them what I had on the certificate you have to complete and said Drs had just forgotten to fill it in. He was enrolled on that basis, but had to get a note from GP's for proof.............which I conveniently forgot. Phew - dodged a bullet.

[Teakai]

Apparently (no dont have link) but Nuns who are virgins dont get cervical cancer. (Nuns whos have had even just one encounter have the same risk profile as the rest of us ) They studied this goup to prove the copulation theory
I also understand that the earlier you start increases the risk, but that could just be bu** shi* So starchild111 this would prove your statement.



Hey T, When I enrolled Sam in school, I had to prove (show them) that his vaccinations were up to date before they would accept him....regular primary school in NZ. He hadnt had them all, I was awakening then - so fudged it. Showed them what I had on the certificate you have to complete and said Drs had just forgotten to fill it in. He was enrolled on that basis, but had to get a note from GP's for proof.............which I conveniently forgot. Phew - dodged a bullet.

Hi Witchy - just saying - I nursed a nun who passed on with cervical cancer - she was around 80 odd years old at the time. I don't really know if she was a virgin - but considering the time and the fact that she was Catholic (are only Catholics nuns?) , I would have thought she would be.

Heck, the church used to exc-ommunicate people for divorce in the 50's so you'd think that the bride's of Christ would have to be virgins - that's what I'm going by to make my assumption.
I'm only mentioning it because the study may not be true - I imagine their study group would be fairly small - how many nuns would confess to not being virgins????

Re: Vacinnes - When I enrolled my son at school, you didn't have to have your child vaccinated, but if there was anything going around you would have to come and take your child out of school. That was 11 years ago.

Unfortunatley, I was a good obedient, caring, mummy and I'd gotten all the vaccinations done right on time. :(

[Seikou-Kishi]

It's not really the crux of your post, Teakai, but no there are nuns in other denominations of Christianity, the Church of England, for example, has nuns, it even has anchorites which are to nuns what nuns are to celebrities lol. Not only that, but other religions have nuns of a sort too, the most obvious being buddhism, though outside Christianity it becomes somewhat confused, since it was in Christian churches that the monasticate arose. Monks and nuns in other religiouns will really only be general comparisons, rather than direct equivalents.

Seikou-Kishi

[witchy1]

Hi T, Im hearing you bwt the church - I remember the Docs being adamant about it so just did a google check - from wp - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cervical_cancer
Epidemiologists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology) working in the early 20th century noted that cervical cancer behaved like a sexually transmitted disease. In summary:

Cervical cancer was common in female sex workers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_worker)
It was rare in nuns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nun), except for those who had been sexually active before entering the convent. (Rigoni in 1841)
It was more common in the second wives of men whose first wives had died from cervical cancer.
It was rare in Jewish women.[84] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cervical_cancer#cite_note-pmid12674663-83)
http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/about-cancer/cancer-questions/cervical-cancer-in-virgins
Another study done in 1952 of 13,000 nuns found no cases of cervical cancer. These studies and other much more recent studies, all indicate that women are more at risk of developing cervical cancer once they have become sexually active.

Wonder if it was it was the primary site???

[Seikou-Kishi]

That's perfectly true, cervical cancer may be all that they say, but the vaccination may not be... they're fiddly pests, these genocidal maniacs.

[Teakai]

Hi T, Im hearing you bwt the church - I remember the Docs being adamant about it so just did a google check - from wp - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cervical_cancer
Epidemiologists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology) working in the early 20th century noted that cervical cancer behaved like a sexually transmitted disease. In summary:

Cervical cancer was common in female sex workers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_worker)
It was rare in nuns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nun), except for those who had been sexually active before entering the convent. (Rigoni in 1841)
It was more common in the second wives of men whose first wives had died from cervical cancer.
It was rare in Jewish women.[84] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cervical_cancer#cite_note-pmid12674663-83)
http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/about-cancer/cancer-questions/cervical-cancer-in-virgins
Another study done in 1952 of 13,000 nuns found no cases of cervical cancer. These studies and other much more recent studies, all indicate that women are more at risk of developing cervical cancer once they have become sexually active.

Wonder if it was it was the primary site???

We weren't aware of it being anywhere else.

I found this - which I'm just pointing out for interests sake:

Towne:
(extract) Although Towne's findings are often quoted as supporting those of Gagnon, she in fact stated 'Thus, the results would appear to be quite different from those of Gagnon, in that 6 nulliparous virginal women were recorded with cervical carcinoma.
She concluded that 'cervical malignancy can arise in women irrespective of virginity or parity'. She showed that the ratio of cancers of the cervix to those of the corpus was inverted in nulliparous and virginal women.

From here - http://www.obgyn.net/gynecological-oncology/gynecological-oncology.asp?page=/english/pubs/articles/nuns


The page is an assortment of scientists/doctors and the studies they ran in regard to cervical cancer.

I think it might be similar to global warming - there's the fores and there's the againsts.
Vaccinations for instance (especially childhood) - I haven't yet met a doctor in real life (that I'm aware of) who doesn't recommend them.

[witchy1]

Ah well, so this is a no-one really knows what causes it again. Intersting about jewish women tho - guess that brings in the circumscision debate!!!!

[Shannow]

Basically, my understanding is that if you have Cervical cancer, then you are positive for HPV...if you never had HPV, then you in all likelihood won't have the cancer.

That being said, the vaccination is one strain only, and as others have said, they are now targetting boys, not just as carriers, but including oral and anal cancers as the justification (at least in Oz).

20 years ago, my partner had an abnormal pap smear, and the doctor, old guy, RIP, recommended a tampon soaked in Vinegar, morning and night for a fortnight, come back in a month...and it was normal again.