Field McConnell: "That Washed Up Part Isn't from MH370. it Was Put There."

[Cidersomerset]

Field McConnell: "That Washed Up Part Isn't from MH370. it Was Put There."

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Published on 31 Jul 2015

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An amusing and very informative interview where Field starts listing recent 'False
Flags' and commenting on them....then broadening out to 9/11 and other events.

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https://www.youtube.com/user/BMHC2CSi

[Cidersomerset]

Field McConnell on SUNDAY WIRE with host Patrick Henningson 6-21-2015

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Published on 21 Jun 2015


Episode #78 – SUNDAY WIRE: ‘The Friendly Skies’, host Patrick Henningsen with guest Field McConnell

Excerpt from http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/03/29...

[Hervé]

... that would mean "they" have kept that piece of wing in sea water for a very long while before planting it where-ever.

From: http://www.clicanoo.re/485039-exclusif-debris-d-avion-les-crustaces-fixes-depuis-un-an.html


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EXCLUSIVE. Aircraft debris: crustaceans fixed for a year. Photo: Ludovic Lai Yu

At our request, the pictures of shellfish attached to the aircraft debris found on the shore of St. Andrew were analyzed by a marine biology researcher from the Naval School of Brest.

As we wrote this morning, Joseph Poupin determined these animals to belong to the species Lepas Anatifera which live in temperate to warm waters. More importantly, it provides crucial details of their growth rate. The scientist tells us that these animals grow from 1 to 2 centimeters per year.

Therefore the estimate is that they have been growing on the debris for several months to a year. That's a flotation period which corresponds perfectly with the date of the MH370 incident. A new element that further strengthens the thesis linking it to the missing Malaysian plane.

Romain Latournerie rlatournerie@jir.fr

[Cidersomerset]

... that would mean "they" have kept that piece of wing in sea water for a very long while before planting it where-ever.

Well if it is verified as part of MH370 more debris should be found now they can
plot the tides etc.Which means it did crash/ditch into the sea on the original
journey. Or landed and was ditched soon after ,Or bits were taken off and placed in
sea water to allow the marine life to grow so as to give it authenticity for use at a
later date. This sounds unlikely but the intel services monitor all the chatter
and articles on alternate sites and realise people are onto them and analyse every
event now.So they would be upping their game I would of thought. Courtney does
say something about this aprox 18 mins into the Richie Allen interview at the top of
the page , saying they coulduse used spare parts , or even some of the MH 17
debris as planted material , but that does not feel right but who knows.


http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/Shellfish-growing-on-the-wing-of-the-debris-594937.jpg

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/594937/Malaysia-Airlines-MH370-barnacle-plane-wreckage

[Cidersomerset]

12-7-2014 Corbett Report~Field McConnell~Abel Danger

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[Rocky_Shorz]

It didn't make sense after it landed safely to tear off a part of a perfectly good plane and toss in in the water where tides would lead back to Diego GarCIA...

maybe someone did toss a piece in from a different plane to turn eyes to where they should be looking for answers...

[Pasang]

News say, that the debris is not part of MH370:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/08/02/wing-flap-arrives-testing-facility/31014241/

[araucaria]

News say, that the debris is not part of MH370:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/08/02/wing-flap-arrives-testing-facility/31014241/
Now this report is truly crazy. It may or not belong to MH370, but to claim it is actually a "domestic ladder" is beyond ridiculous; you might as well say it is a bicycle. A ladder is full of empty spaces, and this story is full of holes too. And for the Malaysian air official to talk about a "door" is also beyond ridiculous, as if a man in his position had never heard of a wing flap and relied on the media to know what was going on.


“I read all over media it (the new debris) was part of a door," Malaysian Director General of Civil Aviation Azharuddin Abdul Rahman told AFP (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/aviation/mh370-reunion-debris-discovery-lifts-hopes-for-missing-flight-clues/story-e6frg95x-1227465921897)and other media outlets. "But I checked with the Civil Aviation Authority, and people on the ground in Reunion, and it was just a domestic ladder.”

[Hervé]

This is that other found piece people believe to belong to a "door" (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=984741&viewfull=1#post984741)<---):



From: http://www.clicanoo.re/485417-un-objet-avec-des-ideogrammes-decouvert-sur-le-littoral-de-saint-denis.html



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The piece found... Kettle? Pressure cooker?


I can't fathom how such a piece has been floating around for over a year... must have been one of those crustaceans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermit_crab) that adopted it as its home...




PS: See: http://www.clicanoo.re/485459-debris-du-mh370-ou-une-bouilloire-chinoise.html

[KiwiElf]

I smell a very big RAT with this whole situation.

It also makes me highly suspicious of the fatal crash of the Bin Laden Family's Private Jet which crashed the other day in perfect weather on landing in the UK. The MSM have been very quick to stifle eye witnesses who claim it was shot down by a small projectile just as it approached the runway. Other sources are claiming sabotage (by British Intelligence!) before the jet took off . Everyone onboard perished in the ensuing crash (Osama's stepmother, his sister and her husband, and the pilot).

Contrary to the lame stream media's statement that the Bin Laden's were visiting on a vacation, other sources are claiming they were in the UK to testify at the Chilcot Inquiry about 9/11, Osama's ill health at the time, and the subsequent involvement of the UK in the Iraq War and implications of some very high-up UK & Saudi figures who may have been involved in bank-rolling the 9/11 operation.

[Snoweagle]

. . .

I can't fathom how such a piece has been floating around for over a year... must have been one of those crustaceans that adopted it as its home...


PS: See: http://www.clicanoo.re/485459-debris-du-mh370-ou-une-bouilloire-chinoise.html

[/CENTER]

roflmao
nice one Herve:-)
wait until the engines wash ashore, thats gonna have one "dewey" of an explanation. Bigger crabs brought ashore maybe.

Seriously. The official broadcasts we hear from our secular experts are really floundering now. There appears to be a desperation in public engagement across the networks.

One piece of a puzzle does not a solution make.

[araucaria]

This is that other found piece people believe to belong to a "door" (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=984741&viewfull=1#post984741)<---):



From: http://www.clicanoo.re/485417-un-objet-avec-des-ideogrammes-decouvert-sur-le-littoral-de-saint-denis.html



http://www.clicanoo.re/IMG/jpg/-19054.jpg
The piece found... Kettle? Pressure cooker?


I can't fathom how such a piece has been floating around for over a year... must have been one of those crustaceans that adopted it as its home...




PS: See: http://www.clicanoo.re/485459-debris-du-mh370-ou-une-bouilloire-chinoise.html


Well, that one definitely is a bicycle, or a washing machine, or the landing gear of a 777.

[Cardillac]

according to www.jimstonefreelance (original article is buried under many other things, sadly), JS originally stated this airplane was hi-jacked by a US AWACKS machine and flown to Diego Garcia; so if that is the truth why hasn't Malaysia and China screamed that from the rooftops?- it's an act of profound aggression (let alone reports of a joint US/Thai joint military exercises that 'accidently' shot this plane down) so why has neither nation not yet screamed "foul play" regardless of the cause?-

of course they've found "wreckage" and will label it MH Flight 370- doesn't mean it's the truth-

hey, folks, this plane just "disappeared" due to un-known causes (at least as far as we have been told in understanding or not our manipulated world)-

there are other forces out there-

Larry

[Cardillac]

as an addendum I would like to address the recent German Wings disaster; the "officious story" about a suicidal co-pilot makes no sense whatsoever; if the co-pilot was suicidal (conflicting MSM reports: GW new of his mental instability but let him fly anyway/his psychiatrist new of his mental instability but failed to report it to Lufthansa/German Wings)-

who in their right mind would let a mentally unstable man fly an airplane?-

latest and last "officious story": this so-called suicidal co-pilot managed to pre-program the flight pattern of this airline embarking from Barcelona before it even took off from Düsseldorf; so how did the 'suicidal' co-pilot know so far in advance to lock the pilot out of the cockpit knowing the pilot would be leaving the cockpit at this time to go to the loo after taking off from Barcelona?- this "officious" story makes no sense to me whatsoever-

Larry

[Cidersomerset]

as an addendum I would like to address the recent German Wings
disaster; the "officious story" about a suicidal co-pilot makes no sense whatsoever;
if the co-pilot was suicidal (conflicting MSM reports: GW new of his mental
instability but let him fly anyway/his psychiatrist new of his mental instability but
failed to report it to Lufthansa/German Wings)-

Field Mc Connell does cover that in one of the above vids , and he says its foul
play, somethingto do the the breathing ? and something else? But I have watched
many docs in the last couple of days and my brain is on the NAZI thread at the min...LOL

[Snoweagle]

... that would mean "they" have kept that piece of wing in sea water for a very long while before planting it where-ever.

Well if it is verified as part of MH370 more debris should be found now they can
plot the tides etc.Which means it did crash/ditch into the sea on the original
journey. Or landed and was ditched soon after ,Or bits were taken off and placed in
sea water to allow the marine life to grow so as to give it authenticity for use at a
later date. This sounds unlikely but the intel services monitor all the chatter
and articles on alternate sites and realise people are onto them and analyse every
event now.So they would be upping their game I would of thought. Courtney does
say something about this aprox 18 mins into the Richie Allen interview at the top of
the page , saying they coulduse used spare parts , or even some of the MH 17
debris as planted material , but that does not feel right but who knows.


http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/Shellfish-growing-on-the-wing-of-the-debris-594937.jpg

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/594937/Malaysia-Airlines-MH370-barnacle-plane-wreckage

Something doesn't seem right in this picture. I think the three men (officials) also see something something odd as well. It's caused me to log on again.

As @Herve advised in his post these are Lepas Anatifera, "barnacles" to you and me. The larvae of which will grow on "anything". They will also cluster as well as distribute though they are found in clusters often. Boatmen know this. Because when I see those barnacles around only the periphery of exposed edges only and none on the huge flat skin of the wing at all. (maybe the coating, though barnacles are not at all fussy where they grow, they adapt)
Though I confess only to have seen boats.

The growth of larvae in the lab is common place in Biological research, in tanks by electrical excitation, quicker growth too. Helps plan semester work and experiments for students sort of thing. The fact the clusters appear at the "exposed" chemistry of the bare metal suggests to me "excitation". Though again I mention it as an observation that niggled me. It just seems odd to me at this moment.

And to be quite honest, it wasn't the barnacles immediately that caught my attention, it was the three men "overly inquistive" of the barnacles alone. A barnacle is a barnacle, they are all identical and how much inquiry does it really take. Something else had "peeked their interest". Or was it new for them. And I'm reading more into this than necessary?

[Cidersomerset]

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MH370: French experts examine Reunion wing part

1 hour ago.....From the section Europe

French police officers inspect the wing part in Reunion (29 July 2015)
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/FA4D/production/_84677046_84677043.jpg
Experts are seeking to confirm whether the wing part belonged to MH370


Experts are due to examine part of a wing that washed up on the island
of Reunion last week and is thought to have belonged to missing flight
MH370.The Boeing 777 piece has been taken to Toulouse in south-west
France.An Australian transport expert is helping out in the examination
at the invitation of the French authorities. Malaysian experts are also
attending.They may pronounce on the origin of the wing part either on
Wednesday or later this week, officials say.For reasons that remain
unclear the Malaysia Airlines plane veered off course on its way to
Beijing in March 2014 and crashed into the sea with 239 people on
board.Investigators hope to be able to determine the speed at which
MH370 hit the water, and use that information to advise search teams
to look for a plane that remains largely intact, or one that disintegrated
on impact.

The Direction Generale de l'Armement (DGA) facilities near Toulouse,
south-western France (July 2015)

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The examination in Toulouse may shed light on the plane's last moments

The examination of the wing part will start early on Wednesday afternoon,
AFP news agency reported. Attending will be French and Malaysian experts,
Boeing employees and representatives from China - the country that lost
most passengers in the disaster.Jean-Paul Troadec, the former head of the
French BEA agency that investigates air accidents, was quoted by AFP as
saying that the examination would concentrate on two issues - whether
the wing part belongs to MH370 and if so, whether it can provide any
information on the final moments of the plane.Mr Troadec said paint on
the wing part - which has already been confirmed as coming from a Boeing
777 plane - was a vital part of the investigation.

"Every airline paints their planes in a certain way... and if the paint used
is used by Malaysia Airlines and other companies, there may be more
certainty," he said.People in Reunion search a beach for possible plane
debris near the shore where a wing part was washed up (02 August 2015)

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/004D/production/_84677000_24418e5e-b3c5-4a40-b6fd-69e89530ea6c.jpg
The wing part is one of several pieces of suspected aircraft debris found recently in Reunion

Missing Malaysia plane: What we know

MH370: The deep-sea hunt for missing plane

At the same time he cautioned that the analysis was highly unlikely to
give any clues as to why the plane so bafflingly went off course.

"One should not expect miracles," he said.

An Australian-led search for the plane has focused on a vast area of the
southern Indian Ocean about 4,000km (2,500 miles) east of Reunion.

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Simulation of where debris in search area could end up
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33783382

[MorningFox]

I smell a very big RAT with this whole situation.

It also makes me highly suspicious of the fatal crash of the Bin Laden Family's Private Jet which crashed the other day in perfect weather on landing in the UK. The MSM have been very quick to stifle eye witnesses who claim it was shot down by a small projectile just as it approached the runway. Other sources are claiming sabotage (by British Intelligence!) before the jet took off . Everyone onboard perished in the ensuing crash (Osama's stepmother, his sister and her husband, and the pilot).

Contrary to the lame stream media's statement that the Bin Laden's were visiting on a vacation, other sources are claiming they were in the UK to testify at the Chilcot Inquiry about 9/11, Osama's ill health at the time, and the subsequent involvement of the UK in the Iraq War and implications of some very high-up UK & Saudi figures who may have been involved in bank-rolling the 9/11 operation.

Can you provide those sources? Is there a thread about this? I can't find it.

[KiwiElf]

Try other alternative websites & then Google - that's how I found them. (and with all respect, if I can find them, anyone can - how hard did you look?) :)

It started with the fact that state-of-the-art jets flown by professional pilots don't just "crash" for no reason on a perfect day, especially when it's the Bin-Laden's jet "visiting" the UK :) That followed a lookup of various mainstream News sites quoting expert pilots, claiming the crash was "unusual" & shouldn't have happened - that was my starting point.

http://www.tomheneghanbriefings.com
http://beforeitsnews.com/9-11-and-ground-zero/2015/08/british-queen-orders-plane-shootdown-in-911-coverup-2441404.html
WhatDoesItMean.Com
http://geopolitics.co/vital-issues/ben-fulford/khazarian-terror-plots-thwarted-rumours-of-august-8th-arrests-run-rampant/

[MorningFox]

Try other alternative websites & then Google - that's how I found them. (and with all respect, if I can find them, anyone can - how hard did you look?) :)

I didn't look at all. If you mention sources it's standard practice to include them otherwise it's pointless mentioning them...

[KiwiElf]

Try other alternative websites & then Google - that's how I found them. (and with all respect, if I can find them, anyone can - how hard did you look?) :)

I didn't look at all. If you mention sources it's standard practice to include them otherwise it's pointless mentioning them...

Really? In who's rule book?? It's called independent research :) If I had started it as a thread then yes. It was a hunch.

(You said, I quote - "I can't find it" - which implies that you looked;)

[MorningFox]

Try other alternative websites & then Google - that's how I found them. (and with all respect, if I can find them, anyone can - how hard did you look?) :)

I didn't look at all. If you mention sources it's standard practice to include them otherwise it's pointless mentioning them...

Really? In who's rule book?? It's called independent research :) If I had started it as a thread then yes. It was a hunch.

(You said, I quote - "I can't find it" - which implies that you looked;)

I can't find a thread on the subject, which is what I looked for, I thought I made that clear. If you're unaware that sources should be included if mentioned, then I cannot apologise for your ignorance.

Now if you're finished being defensive, let's allow the thread to get back on topic...

[Hervé]

Easy on the rudeness..


[...]
...If you're unaware that sources should be included if mentioned...
[...]

Reference?

[MorningFox]

I fail to see the issue here. I politely asked to see the source of the information as without the source it is, in this case, simply pointless rumour. KiwiElf told me to do my own research and suggested I didn't know what google was. I'm now receiving private messages from him calling me a 'kid' and narcissistic.

Quite bizarre.

[ThePythonicCow]

I smell a very big RAT with this whole situation.

It also makes me highly suspicious of the fatal crash of the Bin Laden Family's Private Jet which crashed the other day in perfect weather on landing in the UK. The MSM have been very quick to stifle eye witnesses who claim it was shot down by a small projectile just as it approached the runway. Other sources are claiming sabotage (by British Intelligence!) before the jet took off . Everyone onboard perished in the ensuing crash (Osama's stepmother, his sister and her husband, and the pilot).

Contrary to the lame stream media's statement that the Bin Laden's were visiting on a vacation, other sources are claiming they were in the UK to testify at the Chilcot Inquiry about 9/11, Osama's ill health at the time, and the subsequent involvement of the UK in the Iraq War and implications of some very high-up UK & Saudi figures who may have been involved in bank-rolling the 9/11 operation.

Can you provide those sources? Is there a thread about this? I can't find it.
It looks to me like your initial question, MorningFox , was, as initially read by KiwiElf, vague. Were you asking for sources for the news of the Bin Laden Family Private Jet crash, and/or sources for the "other sources claiming they were in the UK to testify", and/or KiwiElf's suspicions that this whole situation smells like a big RAT? Were you asking for an Avalon thread link and/or for some other source for some part of this outside Avalon?

It then looks to me like KiwiElf presumed that the claimed news parts of his post were readily available to all, so perhaps took your non-specific (as read by him) request for sources to be a questioning of his analysis of the news reports that he presumed were readily known or easily found by searching. This apparently put KiwiElf on the defensive, as vague (in the eyes of the reader, not necessarily in the mind of the author) questions often do.

It is clear to me, MorningFox, that you indicated that you could not find another Avalon thread on whatever you were asking about, though that might be because I am a native English speaker, and so quite perceptive to the nuances of English pronoun choices. It evidently was not clear to Hervé however, based on his subsequent replies above.

May I suggest to MorningFox that questions are better asked with explicit specificity, the better to reduce the chances of uncertainty in the mind of the reader, which often leads to confusions and defensiveness. May I suggest to KiwiElf that rather than presume that a partially vague question is casting doubt on one's post, instead that one ask for more specifics ... as in an initial response such as "Which part of my post would you like sources to, MorningFox?"

When dealing with three different languages, British, Kiwi, and American, and when dealing with the delightful diversity of members found on a forum such as Avalon, successful communication is more likely if one takes some extra time to be explicit, clear and complete, which often includes more formal use of nouns and noun phrases, and fewer use of colloquial pronouns.

Let me step down from my pulpit now ... and ask the question that comes to my mind upon reading KiwiElf's post:

KiwiElf - would you have a link for those other sources who are claiming that the Bin Laden family was in the UK to testify at the Chilcot Inquiry?

[greybeard]

Im smiling Paul
Im married to a lady who's first language is English but is from Cameroon.
Misunderstandings abound due to the nuances you mention.
Her English is technically much superior to mine, exact in meaning,--mind you mine is a Scottish version of English.
Sorry for off topic but I could not resist.
You have a nice way of managing challenges Paul.
With respect
Chris

[greybeard]

A section of wing found on Reunion Island has been confirmed to be part of missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.

The Boeing 777 disappeared in March last year on its way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 passengers and crew on board.

Full story on link. Also now News video
also in full posted by Cidersommerset
Chris

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/plane-debris-belongs-missing-flight-mh370-175835160.html#4fV5UA3

[Hervé]

A section of wing found on Reunion Island has been confirmed to be part of missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.

[...]


:frusty:

Chris, did you even read that article you mention?

I am asking because one has to juxtapose these two statements:


Malaysian prime minister: "... I must tell you that an international team of experts has conclusively confirmed that the aircraft debris found on Reunion Island is indeed from MH370,"... and:


Aviation experts say the wing surface - known as a flaperon - may have stayed afloat due to air pockets in its structure and is almost certainly part of a Boeing 777.... so, on one hand it's a piece of the Boeing777 that flew that fated flight MH370 and on the other hand the experts are expressing uncertainty about that piece of wing belonging to a 777...

Yep! Yahoo news stating everything and its reverse...

[greybeard]

Yes Herve I read it and spotted the seeming conflicting statements.
However the first statement stands on its own.

"A section of wing found on Reunion Island has been confirmed to be part of missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.

The Boeing 777 disappeared in March last year on its way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 passengers and crew on board.

The first real breakthrough of a 515-day search was confirmed by the Malaysian prime minister.

"Today, 515 days since the plane disappeared, it is with a very heavy heart that I must tell you that an international team of experts has conclusively confirmed that the aircraft debris found on Reunion Island is indeed from MH370," Najib Razak told reporters.

"We now have physical evidence that on 31 March last year, flight MH370 tragically ended in the South Indian Ocean.
Regards
Chris

[Hervé]

That's what that prime minister says... and it's still NOT confirmed!


From http://www.clicanoo.re/485908-selon-le-premier-ministre-malaisien-le-debris-d-aile-est-celui-du-mh370.html:

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At 22h, the Paris prosecutor's office gave a press conference to give more information on conducted analyzes. The deputy prosecutor spoke, with great caution, "very strong presumptions" that the flaperon belonged to the missing plane. Presumptions supported by two reasons. On the one hand, Boeing confirmed that it was indeed a piece of Boeing 777 as our Editor had already discovered last week. On the other side, the leaders of Malaysia Airlines were able to compare the piece to the elements of the technical documentation, and noted that they were a match to the technical characteristics of the Flaperon.

A full analysis will be conducted tomorrow morning to confirm this "strong presumption", ended the prosecution.

Finally, the bag found on the same coast and sent for analysis in France, will be analyzed by the Criminal Research Institute of the gendarmerie.

The complete analysis of the piece, discovered on a beach in La Réunion in the Indian Ocean last Wednesday, should "take at least several days," according to a source closed to the investigation.

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... so that the article asserts something still in doubt with using that prime minister's words, it casts doubts on the validity of the only thing that has been ascertained as true: the piece does belong to a Boeing 777!

[Cidersomerset]

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MH370: Reunion debris is from missing Malaysia flight
19 minutes ago...From the section Asia

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Part of the aircraft wing found on Reunion Island is from the missing MH370 plane,
Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak has confirmed.Mr Najib said international
experts examining the debris in France had "conclusively confirmed" it was from
the aircraft.The Malaysia Airlines plane carrying 239 people veered off course from
Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in March 2014. The debris was found on the remote French
Indian Ocean island a week ago. The plane is believed to have crashed into the
southern Indian Ocean - though no evidence had been found despite a massive
search operation.

"It is with a very heavy heart that I must tell you that an international team of
experts has conclusively confirmed that the aircraft debris [...] is indeed MH370,"
Mr Najib told reporters."We now have physical evidence that [...] flight MH370
tragically ended in the southern Indian Ocean," he added.

Mr Najib said he hoped the discovery "will at least bring certainty to the families" of
the victims, saying the burden they had faced was "unspeakable".

'Very strong indications'

French prosecutor Serge Mackowiak later confirmed the wing fragment, known as a
flaperon, was from a Boeing 777 - the same make and model as the missing
Malaysian airliner.He said initial tests showed there were "very strong indications"
that it was from flight MH370. But he said confirmation would only come after
further tests on the fragment, which would begin on Thursday.

"[Investigators] will try to do it as soon as possible in order to provide total and
reliable information to the family of victims, who are on our minds at the moment,"
Mr Mackowiak added.


Analysis: Hugh Schofield, BBC News, Paris
http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/D6B3/production/_84636945_84636944.jpg
In this photo dated Wednesday, July 29, 2015, French police officers look over a
piece of debris from a plane in Saint-Andre, Reunion Island.

The debris was found last week on the Indian Ocean island of Reunion

The Paris prosecutor failed to be as categorical as the Malaysian prime minister in
asserting that the wing piece does come from MH370. All he said was that there are
very strong reasons to presume that it is from the missing plane. That does not
mean that the prosecutor has any reason to doubt the prime minister's conclusion -
simply that he is exercising supreme legal caution. In the coming days there will be
more tests on the flaperon and it's expected that these will prove the piece's origin.
After that, it will probably be many months before deeper analysis allows any
tentative deductions about how the plane may have come down.


The debris is being examined at an aeronautical test centre near Toulouse.

There is little doubt now that the flaperon will be declared the first evidence of
MH370 in the coming days as no other Boeing 777s are thought to have crashed in
the region.

'It's not over yet'

Relatives of the victims were told about the initial results shortly before Mr Najib's
news conference on Wednesday. Jackqita Gomes, the wife of crew member Patrick
Gomes, said: "Now that they have confirmed it as MH370, I know my husband is no
longer of this world but they just can't leave it with this one flaperon."

"We urge them to continue searching until they find the plane and bring it back,"
she told reporters. "It's not over yet."She said she still hoped to get her husband's
body back so that the family can give him a proper burial and say goodbye.

Malaysia Airlines described confirmation of the flaperon as "a major breakthrough".

In a statement, it said it hoped further evidence would be found in the coming days
that would "help resolve this mystery".


Simulation of where debris in search area could end up
http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/3D1F/production/_84574651_mh370_debris_simulation_624map.png

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33794012

[Hervé]

Cider, I am scratching my head as to the reason why you repeat the same non-sense as I addressed it in post # 28 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84177-Field-McConnell-That-Washed-Up-Part-Isn-t-from-MH370.-it-Was-Put-There.&p=986024&viewfull=1#post986024)?

The BBC non-sense:


'Very strong indications'

French prosecutor Serge Mackowiak later confirmed the wing fragment, known as a flaperon, was from a Boeing 777 - the same make and model as the missing Malaysian airliner.He said initial tests showed there were "very strong indications" that it was from flight MH370. But he said confirmation would only come after further tests on the fragment, which would begin on Thursday.



The Paris prosecutor failed to be as categorical as the Malaysian prime minister in
asserting that the wing piece does come from MH370.


... so, the politician has precedence over the expert!

[KiwiElf]

The Malaysian govt seems to be a little too eager to PROVE the flaperon is from MH370 - I guess I'm still smelling RATS! :)

[greybeard]

Cider, I am scratching my head as to the reason why you repeat the same non-sense as I addressed it in post # 28 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84177-Field-McConnell-That-Washed-Up-Part-Isn-t-from-MH370.-it-Was-Put-There.&p=986024&viewfull=1#post986024)?

The BBC non-sense:


'Very strong indications'

French prosecutor Serge Mackowiak later confirmed the wing fragment, known as a flaperon, was from a Boeing 777 - the same make and model as the missing Malaysian airliner.He said initial tests showed there were "very strong indications" that it was from flight MH370. But he said confirmation would only come after further tests on the fragment, which would begin on Thursday.



The Paris prosecutor failed to be as categorical as the Malaysian prime minister in
asserting that the wing piece does come from MH370.


... so, the politician has precedence over the expert!

Herve I did not claim anything or express an opinion--I just, in full faith ,posted an article---I then noted that the article had been extended.
with the inclusion of Sky news.
Its up to people to take what they want from the post, as said I did not express any opinion
Cidersomerset posted the same in this and another thread is he in error too?.

Regards Chris

[Hervé]

[[...]
Its up to people to take what they want from the post, as said I did not express any opinion
No-responsibility poster?



Cidersomerset posted the same in this and another thread is he in error too?.

Regards ChrisSee post # 32 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84177-Field-McConnell-That-Washed-Up-Part-Isn-t-from-MH370.-it-Was-Put-There.&p=986060&viewfull=1#post986060) above and post # 1665 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=986059&viewfull=1#post986059) in that other thread.

[Cidersomerset]

Cider, I am scratching my head as to the reason why you repeat the same non-sense as I addressed it in post # 28?

The BBC non-sense:




Quote 'Very strong indications'

French prosecutor Serge Mackowiak later confirmed the wing fragment, known as a flaperon, was from a Boeing 777 - the same make and model as the missing Malaysian airliner.He said initial tests showed there were "very strong indications" that it was from flight MH370. But he said confirmation would only come after further tests on the fragment, which would begin on Thursday.




Quote The Paris prosecutor failed to be as categorical as the Malaysian prime minister in
asserting that the wing piece does come from MH370.

... so, the politician has precedence over the expert!

I'm posting the current up to date mainstream news article for contrast ,
I don't have a view on whether its right or not .I thought that is obvious.

Why is everyone losing the plot lately ?



The Malaysian govt seems to be a little too eager to PROVE the flaperon is
from MH370 - I guess I'm still smelling RATS!

This feels like a cover up , but I have no proof other than intuition and the
many suggestions and coincidences of many of these 'mysterious ' crashes.

[greybeard]

I dont get what you mean by non-sense Herve.
I do see why the experts wish to delay as they have to be very exact and prove beyond reasonable doubt.
I can see why the politician who is responsible would want to be the first to inform.
Best coming from him rather than people getting it on the news first.
Like Cidersomerset I just posted the latest news believing it of interest and up for discussion or not as the case might be.
Cant see any problem with this.

Chris

[Rex]

Reunion island - seems kind of ironic somehow.

[Hervé]

[...]

I'm posting the current up to date mainstream news article for contrast ,
I don't have a view on whether its right or not .I thought that is obvious.

[...]

Something to do with what's called "Signal-to-Noise" ratio in a community that advocates getting rid of TVs and mainstream news-speaks/propaganda. If readers of this forum are interested in mainstream news, they know where to find it. I don't see any advantage in bringing it here in floods. My opinion.

[ThePythonicCow]

[[...]
Its up to people to take what they want from the post, as said I did not express any opinion
No-responsibility poster?



Cidersomerset posted the same in this and another thread is he in error too?.

Regards ChrisSee post # 32 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84177-Field-McConnell-That-Washed-Up-Part-Isn-t-from-MH370.-it-Was-Put-There.&p=986060&viewfull=1#post986060) above and post # 1665 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=986059&viewfull=1#post986059) in that other thread.

Ambiguity, uncertainty and confusion in such matters as main stream news media and/or institutional leaders or spokespeople might present for public consumption is an unambiguous certainty.

If we insisted that members posting reports of such publishings and pronouncements certify their clarity, consistency and correctness, we would be asking the impossible of them.

[ParakeetMGP]

Well? if this is part of that Plane. There still is a lot more Questions to where the rest of it is? And what happen to it? I am not happy that the Aviation and Airliner Makers can not make Airliners have better tracking devices to them so they can be found "Immediately" (This is Nonsense to me and No Excuse for that) Like the things we have as cell phones. They are made to be traceable and to find. The Incompetence and lousy Radar back then and when this was all that it seems to me there wasn't a real interest to find the Airliner. (Really!) After that first week in the News last year, I was in frantic in how the News would not even look in all of the Indian Ocean areas in all kinds of possibilities like out towards this Location from Diego Garcia and the Man Islands? And No? Just assuming it had to go straight down where it disappeared at so lost it was (Disgusting that they can't figure where a plane goes down right at the time of it, when it does) To me! I found this big world isn't all "Innocent" and everything we hear now days is Not always the "Truth" So? when does many of others in this "World" will learn we don't have an "Honest" World of "Information"? News to me was interesting at a time it was having "Objective" News. Not "Subjective" News and making people take anything it says. What is with this "Ignorant" World now days ... Does get on my nerves these days. But? Aviation is my Favorite Hobby of relishing its Aesthetics to my Enthusiasm with this Life. My Hobby of grasping Airliner Flights by their means of giving us something to appreciate in taking us into the atmosphere and sky's and not be let down from it. To me? Airliners isn't just to get somewhere, but is our innovations. And when it is only for Profit and not for our Humanity of "Life" This gets to me.

[ParakeetMGP]

You know what is going through my mind? I still kind of think the plane landed at Diego Garcia. They had the plane. So? To Distract us all. They took parts off of it. Even probably made some of them look like they drifted in the sea for all this time by making it look like that and planted this at the Island to get us all thinking it went down at in the Indian Sea. Just 1 piece is only found? I'm sure that this is from the plane, but I think it was planted on the Island. Was made to look like all that sea stuff on it during all this time. I am not satisfied until more of the plane and mystery of it gets "Discovered" Not something that looks like this or that so quickly by half of the "Facts"

[Cidersomerset]

◾French investigators: "There exists a very high probability that
the flaperon indeed belongs to Flight MH370."

Further tests Thursday 6th ( Today ).........
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MH370 mystery closer to being solved, Australian PM says

qQCihP90RAQ

Published on 6 Aug 2015


Australian PM Tony Abbott has said the "baffling mystery" of Flight MH370 is
closer to being solved, after Malaysia said a fragment found in Reunion was
part of the missing plane.

PM Najib Razak said experts examining the debris in France had "conclusively
confirmed" it was from the aircraft.


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MH370: Abbott says 'baffling mystery' is closer to resolution


1 hour ago

From the section Asia


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33798704

[greybeard]

What I appreciate about your posts Cidersomerset is that you give all sides of the story that are available at the moment.
We are adult enough to come to our own conclusions.

The over all situation would seem to be far from normal as would be expected in a flight disaster.

We have the most advanced tracking systems,radar, surveillance satellites that can just about count the hairs on your head and yet a large object can be lost without trace.
I just don't buy that.

Chris

[Cidersomerset]

We have the most advanced tracking systems,radar, surveillance satellites
that can just about count the hairs on your head and yet a large object can be lost without trace.
I just don't buy that.

Chris

I agree Chris , it would be nice if more retired pilots and others would come forward
and comment seriously about these events. I do understand why they don't , but
as you say this feels all wrong. Add to the fact who was on board and the thousands
of flights of all types that fly safely daily......

[Cidersomerset]

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MH370 search: Families vent anger over inquiry

3 hours ago.... From the section Asia

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/15BEE/production/_84707098_028457288.jpg
Angry Chinese relatives of missing passengers on MH370
outside Malaysia Airlines office in Beijing. 6 Aug 2015

Relatives outside the Malaysia Airlines offices in Beijing waved
placards with slogans including "Give me back my family" and
"Mum will wait for you forever"


Relatives of those missing on Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 have
vented anger at apparent mixed signals over whether part of the
plane has been found.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33801894

[Cidersomerset]

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MH370: France launches searches around Reunion

1 hour ago...From the section Asia

France has launched air, land and sea searches on and around the island
of Reunion in the hope of finding more debris which could be linked to MH370.

Malaysia has said a wing section found on the French Indian Ocean island
came from the lost Malaysia Airlines flight.But French investigators have
yet to confirm the link, and have dismissed claims that more debris has been found.

The relatives of the passengers - who were mostly Chinese - have protested
at the Malaysian embassy in Beijing.

Flight MH370 was travelling from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on 8 March 2014
when it vanished from radar. The Boeing 777 had 239 people on b

Read more...

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/15CBD/production/_84577298_mh370_flaperon_624in.jpg


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33815009

[Cidersomerset]

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MH370: Malaysia sends experts to examine Maldives 'debris'

13 minutes ago....From the section Asia

A French military plane inspects the Indian Ocean during an MH370
search mission near the French island of Reunion - 9 August 2015

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/59AF/production/_84795922_hi028501391.jpg
Teams have been trawling the Indian Ocean after MH370 debris was found on Reunion Island


Malaysia says it is sending a team of experts to the Maldives to
investigate reports that debris from the missing Flight MH370
has washed up there. Images published in a newspaper in the
Maldives show several small objects it said had been found on
one atoll.But Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said
it was too soon to say if they were connected to flight MH370.

The Malaysia Airlines plane carrying 239 people veered off its
course from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in March 2014.

The plane is long believed to have crashed into the southern
Indian Ocean - though no evidence was initially found despite
a massive search operation.


Reports of possible debris in the Maldives come just days after
items found on the remote French Indian Ocean island of Reunion
were confirmed to be from the missing plane.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33846493


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MH370 debris: Ocean current mapping video 'consistent' with find

6 August 2015 Last updated at 11:41 BST

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33799205

[WhiteLove]

They now claim:

"Molins' office said that experts using an endoscope found three series of numbers inside the flaperon. It appeared, the office said, that the numbers could correspond to a Boeing subcontractor, Airbus Defense and Space in Seville, Spain."

"Consequently, it is possible today to affirm with certainty that the flaperon discovered at the Reunion Island on July 29, 2015 is that of MH370," the office said."

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/03/europe/mh370-investigation/

I personally think the case is still very weak because you have to have more debris than this before you can say anything whatsoever. It is maybe possible that it got shot so high up in the air with such a tremendous amount of force (maybe a space based weapon of some kind) that debris really spread out on a large diameter, but still you have to have more debris before you can say anything at all.

If this is in fact debris from MH 370, then my theory is that it was remotely hijacked to go to a distant location and then be shot down and the reason for this could be of military nature, maybe that highly sensitive information about stealth, anti-gravity or similar technology (maybe weapon related) was about to reach some other power. Someone might have wanted this plane and its content not to reach its target destination. Just a theory, more details are needed.

The story about what happened is too weird for this to be a normal accident, there is definitely more to it...

[Cidersomerset]

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MH370: Reunion wing debris 'certainly' from missing flight

1 hour ago... From the section Asia

French gendarmes and police carry a large piece of plane debrisImage copyright Reuters
Image caption French authorities had removed the debris from the island for testing after
its discovery in July

French prosecutors have said they believe "with certainty" that a wing part found on Reunion
Island in July came from missing flight MH370.The wing section, known as a flaperon, had
been examined in France by international aviation experts.French authorities launched
searches on and around Reunion for more debris but none was found.The Malaysia Airlines
plane carrying 239 people veered off its course from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in March 2014.

The Malaysian government had previously said it believed that the flaperon belonged to MH370.



http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/BCC5/production/_85352384_f8b0e3ed-8e5d-4fb4-af8a-ff9855c7cf3b.jpg
French investigators had until now been more cautious on the provenance of the debris.

But on Thursday they said a technician from Airbus Defense and Space (ADS-SAU) in Spain,
which had made the part for Boeing, had formally identified one of three numbers found on
the flaperon as being the same as the serial number on MH370.

The magistrate charged with conducting the investigation and an aviation expert had gone to
ADS-SAU headquarters on Thursday.

The families of those aboard - who were mostly Chinese - have been angered by the apparent
discrepancies in statements by French and Malaysian officials, and have accused the authorities
of hiding the truth.The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) has been co-ordinating the
deep-sea search in the southern Indian Ocean, where the plane is believed to have gone down,
thousands of miles east of Reunion.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has said that the search would continue as "we owe it to the hundreds
of millions of people who use our skies".

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/D466/production/_85347345_mh370_flaperon_624in.jpg


Missing Malaysia plane: What we know

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34145127

[Cidersomerset]

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MH370: Reunion wing debris 'certainly' from missing flight

1 hour ago... From the section Asia

French gendarmes and police carry a large piece of plane debrisImage copyright Reuters
Image caption French authorities had removed the debris from the island for testing after
its discovery in July

French prosecutors have said they believe "with certainty" that a wing part found on Reunion
Island in July came from missing flight MH370.The wing section, known as a flaperon, had
been examined in France by international aviation experts.French authorities launched
searches on and around Reunion for more debris but none was found.The Malaysia Airlines
plane carrying 239 people veered off its course from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in March 2014.

The Malaysian government had previously said it believed that the flaperon belonged to MH370.



http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/BCC5/production/_85352384_f8b0e3ed-8e5d-4fb4-af8a-ff9855c7cf3b.jpg
French investigators had until now been more cautious on the provenance of the debris.

But on Thursday they said a technician from Airbus Defense and Space (ADS-SAU) in Spain,
which had made the part for Boeing, had formally identified one of three numbers found on
the flaperon as being the same as the serial number on MH370.

The magistrate charged with conducting the investigation and an aviation expert had gone to
ADS-SAU headquarters on Thursday.

The families of those aboard - who were mostly Chinese - have been angered by the apparent
discrepancies in statements by French and Malaysian officials, and have accused the authorities
of hiding the truth.The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) has been co-ordinating the
deep-sea search in the southern Indian Ocean, where the plane is believed to have gone down,
thousands of miles east of Reunion.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has said that the search would continue as "we owe it to the hundreds
of millions of people who use our skies".

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/D466/production/_85347345_mh370_flaperon_624in.jpg


Missing Malaysia plane: What we know

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34145127

[greybeard]

France confirms wing part found on Reunion is from MH370


http://news.yahoo.com/france-confirms-wing-part-found-reunion-flight-mh370-152452302.html

Chris

[ThePythonicCow]

They now claim:
I added "(3 Sep 2015)" to this thread's title. The words "4 hours ago" won't remain accurate for long :).

... and then I went a step further, and merged the new thread of just 3 posts on this report in with the longer thread on this topic :).

[Harley]

Major European suppliers that continue to be involved in production of the
newest 777 include:

-- Spain -- Constructionnes Aeronauticas SA continues to produce the 777s,
ailerons, flaperons and radome;
-- Italy -- Alenia Aerospazio continues to produces the 777s outboard
flaps; and
-- United Kingdom -- BAE SYSTEMS produces the fixed leading edges and
Smiths Aerospace produces the electrical load management system and
fuel quality indicating systems.

Major U.S. firms that continue to be involved in production of the newest
777 include:

-- Goodrich, which produces the main and nose landing gear;
-- Honeywell, which produces the Airplane Information Management System
and various other systems;
-- Hamilton Sundstrand, which produces multiple environmental control
system and electrical systems and components; and
-- Vought, which produces spoilers and flaps.

When completed, they will be shipped to Boeing's assembly plant in Everett, Wash. http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/design-90-percent-complete-on-long-range-boeing-777-300er-77858707.html

And then see my post HERE (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69217-Boeing-MH370-disappears-in-flight-with-239-passengers&p=994723&viewfull=1#post994723).

Excerpt:

1. ALL parts are specifically married (identification) to the airframe, both on the part and in the records, at the time of Installation or Removal and Replacement. And this is ALWAYS monitored by Quality Control/Assurance (Trust me!).

and

2. ANY spare part could be stamped (tampered with), thrown in the water for a period of time, and then "recovered".

In my view, the length of time it has taken them to "identify" this part is far beyond reasonable.

[Cidersomerset]

THE TELEGRAPH.............

MH370 investigators 'looking in wrong place'

German oceanographers publish new research claiming MH370 may have
crashed 2,000 miles north of search area

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03427/MH370_03_3427068b.jpg
Two oceanographers from Kiel stand in front of a screen which shows
the possible site of the crash of the Air Malaysia airplane MH370, during
a press conference in Kiel, Germany Photo: EPA

By Justin Huggler in Berlin
8:43PM BST 02 Sep 2015

Investigators hunting for the missing flight MH370 may be looking in the
wrong place, according to new research by German scientists. The aircraft
may have crashed more than 2,000 miles north of the current search area,
somewhere off the south coast of Java, oceanographers said. The claim is
based on detailed computer modelling of ocean currents that could have
carried a flaperon believed to come from the missing plane to the French
island of Reunion. The wing part, found on the island in July, is the only
trace of the aircraft seen so far.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03427/MH370_02_3427065b.jpg

A map which shows the possible site of the crash of the Air Malaysia airplane
MH370 during a press conference in Kiel, Germany Photo: EPA

There has been no shortage of theories as to the fate of MH370, which disappeared
from radar screens in March last year while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

But the latest claim is based on solid scientific research.

A team at the Helmholtz Centre for Ocean Research in Kiel ran extensive computer
modelling of ocean currents to trace how the flaperon could have ended up on Reunion.

“Our results show that the current focus of the search south-west of Australia may
be too far south,” said Jonathan Durgadoo, one of the researchers.

The study found a number of possible locations for where the aircraft may have
crashed. But only one corresponded to the arc of possible last positions from analysis
of the plane’s satellite pings: an area of some 200 square miles off the south coast of Java.


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03427/MH370_04_3427069b.jpg
Oceanographers stand in front of a screen which shows the possible site of the crash
of the Air Malaysia airplane MH370, during a press conference in Kiel, Germany Photo: EPA

Prof Arne Biastock, another of the researchers, urged caution.

“Finding more pieces of MH370 debris would be necessary in order to make more precise
statements,” he said. The findings follow claims that barnacles found on the flaperon might
indicate a more northerly crash site.

But the Helmholtz Centre said its team had not been able to analyse the barnacles.

“We were asked to look into the barnacles, but we haven’t been able to examine them,
we only have photographs, so we can’t say anything about them,” Jan Steffen, a
spokesman for the centre said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34145127