Zero Point | The Story of Mark McCandlish and the Fluxliner

[Helvetic]

Zero Point | The Story of Mark McCandlish and the Fluxliner

Source: James Gladman vimeo (https://vimeo.com/133170463)


http://vimeo.com/133170463

Description:
Military-aeronautical Illustrator Mark McCandlish was riding the wave of success making images of classified projects for the military-industrial complex. Then he made a drawing of a top secret project that he wasn't supposed to know about. And big trouble ensued. For those who want a story of intrigue, secrets, and technology. Detailed information on the history, physics and technological mechanisms regarding faster-than-light travel, antigravity, and zero-point energy is also covered in detail.

[Citizen No2]

Thank you Helvetic.

An excellent documentary. What a sad ending for James Allen.

Regards.

[Bill Ryan]

An excellent documentary.

Yes it is — highly recommended. I met Mark McCandlish for a couple of hours back in 2007, when we talked in depth (though it wasn't an interview). He's a genuinely brilliant man, far more than 'merely' an excellent draftsman. He has a good knowledge of advanced theoretical physics, and was also a Disclosure Project witness. We need a lot more like him.

[Earthlink]

... it's late where I am, I'm just tagging this so I can come back and read and watch later. carry on :thumbsup:

[Carmen]

Great documentary! Very sad to hear what happened to these people. When does this madness end?

[KiwiElf]

A different "raw" version was available on YouTube a year or so ago (several times), but it kept getting taken off. Fortunately I downloaded it (different from the one here). Mark gives details and comparisons to the cutaway diagrams on the construction so clearly I swear it could be built in someone's garage; Mark claims these were "off the shelf components," - it doesn't seem to be too high-tech. Here's the same video as the OP from YouTube for those who wish to download it with YTDownloader:

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Put "Mark McCandlish and the Fluxliner" into a YouTube search and you will discover many more.

[seehas]

Wow amazing documentary, i allways wonder why "normal" people arent able to rebuild something even the nazis could build more than 60years in the past.

i think i will write subitles for this documentary in german so a larger amount of people can see it.


thanks for posting

[KiwiElf]

Wow amazing documentary, i allways wonder why "normal" people arent able to rebuild something even the nazis could build more than 60years in the past.

i think i will write subitles for this documentary in german so a larger amount of people can see it.

thanks for posting

My feeling is that perhaps we look for too-complicated a solution when in fact it may be very simple and is right in front of our noses. (According to some material I've read, the early WW2 era German saucers used "conventional" Daimler-Benz Diesel engines of the day as a generator to create the Electro-magneto-gravitific effect (wupps that's a mouthful!).

It should be no more difficult than harnessing the wind as a yacht does by raising it's sails ;). Perhaps harnessing universal magnetic lines of force???

Apparently, (according to ancient Indian Texts), they had this technology hundreds if not thousands of years ago, using a "mercury" powered engine - the "Vimana's". (Might explain how the pyramids were really built ;)) The similarities are amazing!

[KiwiElf]

The Book in the OP Video, "Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion", by Paul LaViolette (515 pages, 27.4 MB) is available as PDF download here:

http://www.noufors.com/Documents/Books,%20Manuals%20and%20Published%20Papers/Secrets%20of%20Antigravity%20Propulsion.pdf

[Carmen]

Sightings of ufos round the world are becoming more and more common. Most people aren't stupid, they know what they see, but don't bother to report it because of the 'nonsense' engendered. I saw one before dawn this morning, disappearing behind a mountain. These wonderful scientists and researchers will be vindicated sooner or later, but man, they pay a high price!

[WhiteLove]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A02hFfRqigM

One of the best videos currently out there among truth seekers and UFO enthusiasts... :thumbsup:

[Red Skywalker]

Thanks for bringing the attention to it.
I have made DVD's of this movie and spread them already to many of my friends.
This movie cannot be removed ever again :p

Honor James Allen who paid with his live for making the film.

Besides that, the fluxliner is an old and primitive apparatus from about 50 years ago.
Could you imagine to what extent this technology today has been developed?

In addition here a video where Mark goes a little deeper into the technology:


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[Bubu]

Every kind of craft needs something to push on too to in order to move. cars push on the concrete boats push on the water. the fluxliner allegedly push on the magnetic flux of a planet by creating its own magnetic flux, as in north oppose north, using zero point energy. what bugles me is how did the aliens manage to drag their planets magnetic flux in order to reach that of the earths. So was mark there to muddle the conference? Why was the video of the conference cut and replace with marks interview on different occasion, as he was introduce to the crowd. The entire video of the conference was unlucky to have the airtime just like any another real ones and instead replace with this crap propaganda. As usual.

[Bubu]

something more realistic

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/repulsin.htm

http://free-energy.ws/implosion/

http://www.tuks.nl/Mirror/frankgermano_net/viktorschauberger_5.htm

[Sean]

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One of the best videos currently out there among truth seekers and UFO enthusiasts... :thumbsup:

Fascinating stuff. McCandlish reeks of authenticity.

Not that those of us here didn't have a good idea this was happening..but this gives us some great details.

[Sunny-side-up]

Every kind of craft needs something to push on too to in order to move. cars push on the concrete boats push on the water. the fluxliner allegedly push on the magnetic flux of a planet by creating its own magnetic flux, as in north oppose north, using zero point energy. what bugles me is how did the aliens manage to drag their planets magnetic flux in order to reach that of the earths. So was mark there to muddle the conference? Why was the video of the conference cut and replace with marks interview on different occasion, as he was introduce to the crowd. The entire video of the conference was unlucky to have the airtime just like any another real ones and instead replace with this crap propaganda. As usual.
hi Bubu
There is: electro,magnetic and gravity throughout the solar-system,throughout the galaxy. It is throughout space, between the planets, between the stars!

[Cidersomerset]

There was a recent thread about this and Marks work is an eye opener.....


Re: Of great importance: Dave Hodges' revelations about the Secret Space Program

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86211-Of-great-importance-Dave-Hodges-revelations-about-the-Secret-Space-Program&p=1012269&viewfull=1#post1012269

: Mark McCandlish: "Corporations Have Back Engineered ET Technology To Control The World!"

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86186-Mark-McCandlish-Corporations-Have-Back-Engineered-ET-Technology-To-Control-The-World-&p=1012245#post1012245

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Re: Of great importance: Dave Hodges' revelations about the Secret Space Program


Hi Bill I'm in a parallel universe as usual ( especially if you were following, on
of the mini CERN thread ) and having some 'ureka' moments on the Mark Mc Candlish
front....LOL .....Now I have watched a lot of vids in the last couple days and they
maybe blending together and I'm going into meltdown, but more dots are connecting
or sinking in to be more precise as most of this info has been presented one way or
another , but its putting it together as a coherent message which is difficult.

I know you have had loads of info and contacts over the last decade and it must
be near impossible to give exact statements to anything as there is always
counter arguments , disagreements in interpretation and just dis info deliberate
and genuinely wrong leads. Which you have shared in your vids and on the forum
as you have been going along. I am posting the vids from the secret space
conference on that thread from 2014. A couple I have just watched apart from
several Mark McCandlish ones are the short Q&A where they show some 'genuine'
UFO footage and the presentation from Michael Schratt where he goes over a load
of info and speculation about different black project craft. He also covers a few
possible ET craft with artwork.


Re: Mark McCandlish: "Corporations Have Back Engineered ET Technology To Control The World

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86186-Mark-McCandlish-Corporations-Have-Back-Engineered-ET-Technology-To-Control-The-World-&p=1012245#post1012245

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Zero Point The Fluxliner story panel & Military radar UFO footage, Secret Space Program 2014

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Published on 9 Mar 2015


Zero Point The Fluxliner story commentary & Military radar UFO footage at the Secret Space Program Conference, 2014 San Mateo

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Run time : 33.30
Speakers : Henrik Palmgren, Mark McCandlish, Linda Brown, James Gladman, Jesse Fritch

Sit back and enjoy a lively discussion between Henrik Palmgren Mark McCandlish and
James Gladman about the documentary film created by James Allan Higgins (1964-2013)
The Fluxliner story. Linda Brown the daughter of Thomas Townsend Brown will share some
stories about her father. Jesse Fritch will give some commentary on a Military radar UFO
footage taken on S13 site in Nevada.

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I have posted this before and is very interesting imo , Michael shows a
lot of Marks artwork and acknowledges his work frequently. Which is
why the name Mark McCandlish was familiar , but I could not quite
place it. I can now ...LOL


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Published on 9 Mar 2015


Michael Schratt at the Secret Space Program Conference, 2014 San Mateo

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[Nick Matkin]

@ WhiteLove and workingactor

Many thanks for posting that video (#1 and #5 above).

I've watched many similar videos, but that was excellent. In my opinion the clarity of the content is amongst the best I have seen. It does leave a number of questions hanging, for example how can anyone accidentally be allowed to see something so secret, be scared ***tless at gunpoint and then describe it in detail to someone else?

It also seems odd that of all those that have been 'bumped off', Mark McCandlish, has been (thankfully) spared.

As an engineer, I wanted details on the capacitor, specifically its value and the qualities of green dielectric material, but that's unlikely to be the sort of technical details those reporting it would have anyway. The technical details given (those I understood!) made sense.

I'm sure a physicist would see other aspects that cried out for clarification (there don't seem to be any on the forum, and if there are I've never seen any postings from them), but nevertheless I felt the video was as good as it could be. I don't often sit through videos that long - but glad I did for that one. Thanks again.

If only some of it were true...

[Sean]

@ WhiteLove and workingactor

Many thanks for posting that video (#1 and #5 above).

I've watched many similar videos, but that was excellent. In my opinion the clarity of the content is amongst the best I have seen. It does leave a number of questions hanging, for example how can anyone accidentally be allowed to see something so secret, be scared ***tless at gunpoint and then describe it in detail to someone else?

It also seems odd that of all those that have been 'bumped off', Mark McCandlish, has been (thankfully) spared.

As an engineer, I wanted details on the capacitor, specifically its value and the qualities of green dielectric material, but that's unlikely to be the sort of technical details those reporting it would have anyway. The technical details given (those I understood!) made sense.

I'm sure a physicist would see other aspects that cried out for clarification (there don't seem to be any on the forum, and if there are I've never seen any postings from them), but nevertheless I felt the video was as good as it could be. I don't often sit through videos that long - but glad I did for that one. Thanks again.

If only some of it were true...


Yes, I agree the quality was excellent. I sort of understood the science, but not completely. My only connection to aerospace is a cousin who was an astronaut, and 3 PIC hours flying a cessna, so, my personal knowledge is quite lacking. I plan to do something about that...credibility is key for me, and McCandlish has it. as to why he's still alive..no answer. we could ask the same question of many others.

What this gives us, though, is some hard data, some nuts and bolts, as opposed to "galactic councils of light" and other lofty stuff. THIS I can connect to.

[Nick Matkin]

Yes, it's streets ahead of all that Space Brothers, New Age frothy nonsense!

But there's no mention of element 115 which is what Bob Lazar says powers UFOs. So which is it? Both? Or neither- because it's all bollocks?

[Bubu]

Every kind of craft needs something to push on too to in order to move. cars push on the concrete boats push on the water. the fluxliner allegedly push on the magnetic flux of a planet by creating its own magnetic flux, as in north oppose north, using zero point energy. what bugles me is how did the aliens manage to drag their planets magnetic flux in order to reach that of the earths. So was mark there to muddle the conference? Why was the video of the conference cut and replace with marks interview on different occasion, as he was introduce to the crowd. The entire video of the conference was unlucky to have the airtime just like any another real ones and instead replace with this crap propaganda. As usual.
hi Bubu
There is: electro,magnetic and gravity throughout the solar-system,throughout the galaxy. It is throughout space, between the planets, between the stars!

yes so how do you determine the north and the south in order to determine whether to push or pull much like the electric motor. And when the craft is inside a planets magnetic field when you turn it say left or right the orientation of the crafts steering changes in relation to the magnetic field of the planet. Sorry but I dont see anything on this but ridiculuosness

[regnak]

Description (redacted)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A02hFfRqigM
Duration
1 hour 33 minutes


How are the governments installing and maintaining all this gigantic equipment in outer space? This video provides some very important insights into who, what, when, where and how.

James Allen, the creative director behind this amazing documentary, is dead. He was killed in a very similar fashion as Dr. Robert Harrington who tracked Planet X Nibiru for the US government and met with Zachariah Sitchin instigating his death shortly thereafter.

I found it worthy very interesting 10/10





Edit from Bill: merged with an existing Avalon thread on the same video, from December last year. Many thanks for the bump :thumbsup:

[CurEus]

Bob Lazar may be correct however it may not be the "only" element being used or used initially. In the video it was mentioned that Naval Deep Cycle batteries from submarines were used and once powered a zero point energy effect seems to take place...so power may only be needed to start a reaction and for steering. I expect over time refinements would be made to the whole process...

Interesting video and hopefully someone with the skills, inclination and resources can test this out in some manner.

[KingJamesCorona]

Despite the computer voice narration (now popularly used to create b.s. phenomenology content) this documentary’s information made some things click for me.

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[KingJamesCorona]

Completely speculative

This film got me thinking about location, Utah. A high Mormon populace. Considering this and their deep roots in American history/industry. Development would perhaps go to those contractors in the area.

If one is familiar with Mormon faith, theirs some UFO-ish connotations. The Mormons are a disciplined unified people, controllable. What better group to give black program contracts to? However subsequent mirrored/splintered programs might be taken within the ‘faith’.

Completely speculative

Middle management and those still currently connected with fluxliner contracts, specifically the security apparatus, might still be in hot water dealing with loose ends.

Funny how James Allen died, a study for targeted individual scholars

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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

An interesting snippet here on the ARV Flux Liner from the Danny Jones podcast. "UAP Gerb" (social media name) uncovered an old interview featuring Brad Sorenson, the original ARV witness, from 1990. When he put up a video about it, he came under fire for blowing the lid from a well-known UFO researcher, one close to Dr. Greer. Which is weird enough. This story has been in the public domain for years. Weirder still, when he reached out to Sorenson himself, Sorenson threatened to kill him.

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Gerb
@UAPGERB
Unfortunately, this is a true story

After the Flux Liner ARV video (video link in comment), I got a call from a UFO researcher I respect very much.

He asked me where I found the interview with primary witness Brad S (who has sent death threats my way many times) and informed me that the interview was supposed to be internal material to Steven Greer.

Why did Steven Greer and his team hide this 1990 interview recorded by Bill Scott of Aviation Week and Space Technology? I find that deeply troubling as the interview with Brad transforms the infamous Flux Liner ARV story into a first-hand witness testimony from the decades of second-hand retellings by aerospace illustrator Mark McCandlish.

Perhaps Greer and the researcher feared Brad; maybe he has more than just tired death threats to lob. After all, recently I made a post theorizing Brad S. had far more knowledge and understanding of Flux Liner than previously thought.

[Bill Ryan]

An interesting snippet here on the ARV Flux Liner from the Danny Jones podcast. "UAP Gerb" (social media name) uncovered an old interview featuring Brad Sorenson, the original ARV witness, from 1990. When he put up a video about it, he came under fire for blowing the lid from a well-known UFO researcher, one close to Dr. Greer. Which is weird enough. This story has been in the public domain for years. Weirder still, when he reached out to Sorenson himself, Sorenson threatened to kill him.

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Gerb
@UAPGERB
Unfortunately, this is a true story

After the Flux Liner ARV video (video link in comment), I got a call from a UFO researcher I respect very much.

He asked me where I found the interview with primary witness Brad S (who has sent death threats my way many times) and informed me that the interview was supposed to be internal material to Steven Greer.

Why did Steven Greer and his team hide this 1990 interview recorded by Bill Scott of Aviation Week and Space Technology? I find that deeply troubling as the interview with Brad transforms the infamous Flux Liner ARV story into a first-hand witness testimony from the decades of second-hand retellings by aerospace illustrator Mark McCandlish.

Perhaps Greer and the researcher feared Brad; maybe he has more than just tired death threats to lob. After all, recently I made a post theorizing Brad S. had far more knowledge and understanding of Flux Liner than previously thought.~~~

Very very interesting (and important!)... I had always understood that no interview with Brad Sorenson ever existed.

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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

The interview in question was -- allegedly -- conduction by Bill Scott, senior editor of "Aviation Week and Space Technology" and was published in 1990. I say 'alleged' because as far as I can see Gerb hasn't produced it, and I'm still looking for it.

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Gerb
@UAPGERB
For many years, the story of Brad S. serrendpitously being taken to a classified exhibit at the 1988 Norton Air Force Base Air Show where he observed 3 flying saucers known as Flux Liners was relayed second hand by Mark McCandlish and his incredible sketches of the craft.

It wasn't until 2024 I was able to find a long-buried 1990 interview with Brad S. and Aviation Week and Space Technology senior editor Bill Scott where Brad S. not only confirmed the entirety of the story, but also commented that he learned these alien reporudction vehicles were poorly constructed "copy vehicles" based off recovered if not forecfully taken non-human technology. Why was this interview buried? I do not know, but I have suspicions.

Brad S. has historically been known as a hostile witness - lobbing death threats to filmmakers who worked with McCandlish, other respected researchers, and myself. The witness even told me:

"Mark McCandlish was a stupid, dramatic, selfish fool who died because he could not keep his mouth shut. Learn from this."

Since publishing on the story of the Flux Liner ARV, I have periodically attempted to contact direct witnesses of this case. Throughout the warnings and death threats, I have seen my opinions on Brad S. shift quite strongly. I am not so sure he was just a lucky individual who observed man's attempt to recreate non-human vehicles....

After being told by the witness that I was "not worthy" to speak to him about his experience, I rather stubbornly asked why he was worthy if his sighting of the ARV at the classified exhibit was complete luck due to whom he attended the Air Show with.

This is when the witness alluded that this sighting was not luck, and perhaps he helped create what he witnessed....

This has had me really scratching my head and thinking - Did Brad S., a genius industrial designer, help design aspects of the ARV or, at the very least, see some of his designs realized in the Flux Liner and relay a story of a chance sighting to Mark?

Here are some points supporting this thesis:

- Brad relayed the Flux Liner ARVs in incredible detail. These details were specific enough to describe the control ball system used to power the craft and the specifics of the synthetic vision system. Extensive knowledge of such details after a brief, up to 30-minute viewing of the craft seems highly unlikely.

- Brad revealed himself to be EXTREMELY displeased with the engineering of the craft in his interview with Scott, claiming "they looked poorly built". Brad would, multiple times, express his distaste that the craft were built by scientists. Perhaps clashes occurred if Brad aided in the conceptual design of the Flux Liner and multiple aspects weren't realized in the Scientists' build

- According to Mark, early in his career, Brad worked at an established Los Angeles-based design firm. Here, the owner had to step away, and Brad was thrust into a lead role, himself handling "substantial clients" before walking off and starting his own firm with many professional accounts.

- Addressing the point above, Brad DID engage with USG project - at a minimum, working in the early 2000s on a technology project to advance US military capability. Brad has also worked on Lockheed Aircraft.

- Brad threatens death to many who try to speak to him.

- The witness alluded to this in exchanges with me.

- Brad is listed in Steven Greer's witness list under witness ID# 10641. Alongside mention of the Norton 1988 incident, his witness statement reads,

"Is genius who designed propulsion system for Aurora craft. PI-40; not cooperative."

Now the PI-40 is another name for MJ-12? Could Brad be MJ-12?... I have seen no evidence of this, but this is an interesting question. As are the claims he designed the propulsion system for the Aurora. The Aurora was one of the more conventional crafts at the Norton classified exhibit - a pumpkin-seed shaped UAV that could carry over 100 nuclear warheads. Present USG military personnel were boasting on how the vehicle could destroy Soviet cities in an incredibly short amount of time.

Here are some points against this thesis:

- The Flux Liner has quite possibly been around or at least seen early prototypes realized since the 1960s. This is based on the images taken of a craft that looks like an early flux liner iteration by USAF captain Harvery Williams.

- Up into the 2000s Mark vehemently stated Brad was bewildered and changed by what he saw at the air show.

- Besides allusions to unhappiness with the construction of the craft, in his interview with Bill Scott Brad maintained in a stroke of luck he was taken to the classified exhibit to view the Flux Liners.

- By his demeanor, it is probable Brad witnessed something he was not supposed to and was threatened if he spoke out after his 1990 sole interview.

- IF Brad had intimate knowledge of the flux Liner, what was his play fabricating a story of discovery and leaking details to mark?....

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SIDE NOTE: When I speak to the witness Brad, I feel shades of William Steinman's 1980s interviews with Dr. Eric Walker. Similar to being told I am not worthy to know about his time with the Flux Liners, Walker would tell Steinman he was chasing after windmills investigating MJ-12 and crash retrievals (Don Quixote reference) and state:

"You are delving into an area that you can do absolutely nothing about. So why get involved with it orbe concerned about it? Why don't you just leave it alone and drop it? Forget about it!!"

Walker's demeanor reminds me closely of Brad's. Further Similarities include Walker Chastizing researcher Henry Azadehdel for not being in any UFO legacy groups: "I cannot answer that question. You are trying to squeeze answers out of me. If you are invited into this group I would know."

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His Video on Youtube:
...where excerpts of the Sorensen interview are shown, but I've yet to find a downloadable document, like a PDF.
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Regarding the UFO pic he brought up in the podcast clip:

Below is a 3D model of the McCandlish illustration. Beneath that, a photograph allegedly taken of a UFO in Utah in 1966. A pretty close match.

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