Three cheers for you, Donald Sutherland.

[Gaia]

My name is Donald Sutherland. My wife’s name is Francine Racette. We are Canadians. We each hold one passport. A Canadian passport. That’s it. They ask me at the border why I don’t take American citizenship. I could still be Canadian, they say. You could have dual citizenship. But I say no, I’m not dual anything. I’m Canadian. There’s a maple leaf in my underwear somewhere. There used to be a beaver there, too, but I’m 80 now and beavers are known to take off when you’re in your 80s.

We live in Canada all the time we can. Our family house is here. Professionally, I still have to think twice when I say “out” or “house.” I have to restrain myself from saying “eh?”. In 1978, that’s nearly 40 years ago, the Canadian government made me an Officer of the Order of Canada. The Governor-General gave me the Governor-General’s Award a while back. I am on your Walk of Fame in Toronto. My sense of humour is Canadian. But I can’t vote.

Did you know that? If you don’t live here all the time you can’t vote. Americans who live abroad can vote. They can vote because they’re citizens! Citizens! But I can’t. Because why? Because I’m not a citizen? Because what happens to Canada doesn’t matter to me? Ask any journalist that’s ever interviewed me what nationality I proudly proclaim to have. Ask them. They’ll tell you. I am a Canadian. But I’m an expatriate and the Harper government won’t let expatriates participate in Canadian elections.

Did you read the editorial in Le Monde? A full page saying essentially that Canada isn’t Canada any more. That the beautiful, peace-pursuing dream that was Canada, the Canada you once knew and were so proud of, is no longer “Canada.” The article goes on to detail just who we’ve become and it isn’t pretty. It’s very sad. And this new “Canada,” this Canadian government that has taken the true Canada’s place, has furiously promoted a law that denies its citizens around the world the right to vote. Why? Is it because they’re afraid we’ll vote to return to a government that will once again represent the values that the rest of the world looked up to us for? Maybe.


Last week, the Ontario Court of Appeal overturned a ruling that had restored the right to vote of more than one million Canadians living abroad. The decision affects Canadians who have lived elsewhere for more than five years. Long term expats can't vote in federal elections, court rules.

If you are a Canadian Citizen, one of your "responsiblities" along with the Rights & Freedoms, is the ''Duty to Vote''. Bravo, Mr Sutherland. You are correct!

Thank you so much Mr. Sutherland. It's been a pleasure to follow your career from the beginning. I hope your protest will inspire other expats to overturn this odious, unfair legislation.

Gaia

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/im-canadian-and-i-have-a-right-to-vote/article25731634/

[Cidersomerset]

Canada and Australia have definitely gone NWO since 9/11, along with the US , UK ,
NZ the 'five eyes' countries and close allies .David Icke who had a very long legal
battle with pro Jewish serial litigant David Warman, so keeps an eye on events in
Canada ,has put up several articles about how Prime Minister Harper is defending
Israel. You may have already seen the item below , especially the Iraq one.

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David Warman receiving an award from the Canadian Jewish Congress

Part of a thread I put up yesterday....

The first article would be amusing apart from the sinister undertones of mind control
it has been used many times before , most infamously after the 'flase flag' 9/11
attacks to help justify the intel created 'war on terror meme ' and invade Iraq in
2003.

Canadian Politician & Oz PM - EXACT SAME SPEECH. Proof of secret control!

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Published on 14 Dec 2014


In March of 2003, a mere 2 days apart, Canadian politician Stephen Harper, who
subsequently, convenient became the nations Prime Minister, as well as the then
Australian Prime Minister John Howard gave a speech about justifying actions to be
taken in Iraq concerning WMD's in their respective houses of parliament. So far, no big
deal right? What if I told you that their speech was actually INDENTICAL, word-for-word?!

The chances of this happening are statistically non-existent. No one likes to copy,
everyone likes to make their own mark. This is proof that leaders of countries are not in
fact leading or in control, but are meer puppets acting on order of someone behind the
curtain, ordered to give the EXACT SAME SPEECH.
New World Order in effect!



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Video shows Canadian Conservative MPs reading from identical script

By ickonic on 1st August 2015 Political Manipulation
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Watch 13 Conservative MPs drone on like robots reading the same script

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Published on 29 Jul 2015

Read more: Video shows Canadian Conservative MPs reading from identical script


http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/07/30/video-shows-conservative-mps-reading-from-identical-script.html

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84169-Canadian-Conservative-MP-Robotic-Drones-Pentagon-Employing-Top-Scientists-to-Improve-US-Propaganda-Machine&p=984608#post984608


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There are many varied articles link.....http://www.davidicke.com/?s=canada

Canada pledges ‘unwavering’ support for Israel

By David Icke on 4th June 2015 Illuminati Criminals, Political Manipulation, War and Terror

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‘Canada’s foreign minister on Wednesday reaffirmed his country’s ironclad support
for Israel and said the realities of the Middle East left the Jewish state no choice but
to defend itself.

Meeting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on his first visit to Israel, Rob
Nicholson’s comments were welcomed at a time of growing pressure on Netanyahu
and his rightwing government to curb West Bank settlement and renew talks with
the Palestinians.

“We believe we have no better friend than Canada,” Netanyahu said as he met
Nicholson in Jerusalem.’

Read more: Canada pledges 'unwavering' support for Israel

http://news.yahoo.com/canada-pledges-unwavering-support-israel-143520276.html
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Canada’s plan to make boycotting Israel a ‘hate crime’ is stupid and counterproductive

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THE INDEPENDENT.....

By Robert Fisk

Sunday 17 May 2015

Canada's plan to make boycotting Israel a 'hate crime' is stupid and counterproductive

The law change would put Jews and civil society groups on trial for anti-Semitism

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10256609.ece/alternates/w620/464359673.jpg

I’ve never been keen on boycotts. The one against Italy for invading Abyssinia
didn’t work. Nor did the arms blockade on Spain. I’m still not sure that boycotting
South Africa really brought down apartheid. I rather suspect that the old racists
simply realised they were hopelessly outnumbered by the blacks of South Africa
and that the game was up.

And I’m still unconvinced that boycotting Israel, even though it frightens the right-
wing crazies in Benjamin Netanyahu’s government, will achieve a two-state
solution, human rights for Palestinians, etc. I’m free to refuse to buy products from
Jewish colonies in occupied Arab land (I do not buy them), but, when I visit Israel,
I stay at the King David Hotel in west Jerusalem, visit the Tel Aviv gallery of art and
buy Israeli-published books. Some Israeli academics support a boycott of their own
country. They may be right in doing so.

But in Canada – and I had to literally rub my eyes when I read this – the totally pro-
Israeli Conservative government of Stephen Harper intends to list the boycotting of
Israel as a “hate crime”. This is not only ludicrous, stupid, pointless and racist
because it assumes that anyone opposed to Israel’s vicious and iniquitous policies
of land-grabbing in the West Bank is an anti-Semite, but it is also anti-democratic.
Those who believe in non-violence have always espoused boycott movements on
the grounds that economic pressure rather than bombs is a moral way of putting
pressure on a country that violates international law.

Read More,,,



http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/robert-fisk-canadas-support-of-israel-is-dangerous-10256597.html

[happyuk]

This reminds me of another Canadian guy who has done work on the importance of the Rule of Law, called 'Bursting the Bubbles of Government Deception.'

Robert A. Menard, I think. Interesting guy.

https://archive.org/details/ThinkFreeBurstingBubblesOfGovernmentDeception

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EowUKAu4b2s&list=FLJi4EKG6UCtaNX9ehqkelHg&index=154

[Gaia]

Cidersomerset : Read the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) document entitled, "Rebuilding America's Defenses". It'll blow your mind.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3249.htm

[Cidersomerset]

Cidersomerset : Read the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) document entitled, "Rebuilding America's Defenses". It'll blow your mind.

http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle3249.htm

Yeah its the Neo -con agenda for the new American century ,or similar, the plan
was envisaged earlier and after the financial undermining of the Soviet Union made
the country untenable , especially after they were bogged down in Afghanistan
fighting the CIA funded Mujahideen , where a young Osama Bin Laden was
recruited. They realised the US economy as President Eisenhower warned in the
early 1960's , was basically a 'war economy ' and the military industrial complex
need wars to survive , to arm US forces and exports to foreign armies. Its no
coincidence that the US has been involved in conflicts somewhere in the world
virtually continuous since WW11 and Americans lives are insignificant to these
people and foreigners are expendable.

https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/robin_cook_alqaeda_osama_cia_assets.jpg?w=522&h=253

The American public were sick of wars , and the fall of the Berlin wall should of
heralded a peace dividend. But that is no good for the corporate machine and
their 'bankster ' confederates. They knew they had the assets and connections to
bring together disparate groups of freedom fighters and anti government forces
from around particularly the Middle East and use them as the basis of an ongoing
enemy in the invented 'War on Terror ' meme.

For this they needed a ' False Flag ' like a 'New Pearl Harbour Event' and the rest is
history and still being played out in the Middle East and North Africa , with other
conflicts in Ukraine , Nigeria simmering. There always have and will be conflicts,
but it makes you wonder how many were engineered ? more than you would think.

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Robin Cook was a high profile out spoken critic and another ' coincidental death '
shortly after giving the above speech in Parliament and was against the second
invasion of Afghanistan. ISIS , ISIL are just an extension of the 'War on terror'
meme. They are desperate to invade Syria and Iraq again , but the British vote
a couple of years ago not to join in stalled their plans as they want a united front.
Cameron is desperate to get involved and the Tunisian shootings were probably
another attempt to scare the UK public into demanding a response, The good
old 'Problem Reaction Solution '....There are obviously much more nuances involved
and plans and the time table changes , but the general direction of TNWO seems
to be ongoing.


ISIS no weaker after a year of airstrikes – US intelligence

By ickonic on 2nd August 2015

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‘We’re Training ISIL': White House Website Corrects Obama’s Speech Blooper

By ickonic on 8th July 2015 Illuminati Criminals, War and Terror

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‘The White House.gov website has corrected an embarrassing mistake made by
Barack Obama during his press briefing yesterday about the Islamic State when the
President said that U.S. forces were “training ISIL.”

During his speech, Obama uttered the line, “with the additional steps I ordered last
month, we’re speeding up training of ISIL forces.”

The White House.gov transcript left in the original quote, but placed the word ‘Iraqi’
in brackets after the word ISIL, correcting Obama’s mistake.’

Read more: ‘We’re Training ISIL': White House Website Corrects Obama’s Speech Blooper

http://www.prisonplanet.com/were-training-isil-white-house-website-corrects-obamas-speech-blooper.html

US trained ISIL terrorists at secret Jordan base: Report

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/06/20/367852/us-trained-isil-at-secret-jordan-base/

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http://www.davidicke.com/?s=ISIL

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Another article I just noticed from todays headline page , there are local agendas
as well and Israel , Saudi , Jordan ,Egypt , Gulf States and others all are involved.
Turkey the former imperial power in the days of the old Ottoman Empire is
also a key player , particularly now the Kurds in Northern Iraq are semi
autonomous. This effects Turkey because there is a large Kurdish population there
that have been seeking independence for decades and infact there is a whole
country missing from the region , with the Kurds also in parts of Iran and Syria.
This is why Turkey is in a dilemma and have turned a blind eye to some ISIL
activities , why also joining in the greater party as a NATO member.



Turkey Supports ISIS. … Now Declares ‘War Against ISIS’, But Instead Bombs Its
Political Rival, Which Is the Most Effective Force Fighting ISIS

By ickonic on 2nd August 2015 War and Terror

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‘The Guardian reported this week:

US special forces raided the compound of an Islamic State leader in eastern Syria in
May, they made sure not to tell the neighbours.

The target of that raid, the first of its kind since US jets returned to the skies over
Iraq last August, was an Isis official responsible for oil smuggling, named Abu
Sayyaf. He was almost unheard of outside the upper echelons of the terror group,
but he was well known to Turkey. From mid-2013, the Tunisian fighter had been
responsible for smuggling oil from Syria’s eastern fields, which the group had by
then commandeered. Black market oil quickly became the main driver of Isis
revenues – and Turkish buyers were its main clients.

As a result, the oil trade between the jihadis and the Turks was held up as evidence
of an alliance between the two.’

Read more: Turkey Supports ISIS. … Now Declares ‘War Against ISIS’, But Instead
Bombs Its Political Rival, Which Is the Most Effective Force Fighting ISIS

http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkey-supports-isis-now-declares-war-against-isis-but-instead-bombs-its-political-rival-which-is-the-most-effective-force-fighting-isis/5466169

[Gaia]

This article originally published by Global Research in 2005 sheds light on the nature of Al Qaeda, an intelligence construct used by Washington to destabilize and destroy sovereign countries, while sustaining the illusion of an outside enemy, which threatens the security of the Western World.

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Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that “Al Qaeda” is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. Courtesy of World Affairs, a journal based in New Delhi, WMR can bring you an important excerpt from an Apr.-Jun. 2004 article by Pierre-Henry Bunel, a former agent for French military intelligence.

“I first heard about Al-Qaida while I was attending the Command and Staff course in Jordan. I was a French officer at that time and the French Armed Forces had close contacts and cooperation with Jordan . . .

“Two of my Jordanian colleagues were experts in computers. They were air defense officers. Using computer science slang, they introduced a series of jokes about students’ punishment.

“For example, when one of us was late at the bus stop to leave the Staff College, the two officers used to tell us: ‘You’ll be noted in ‘Q eidat il-Maaloomaat’ which meant ‘You’ll be logged in the information database.’ Meaning ‘You will receive a warning . . .’ If the case was more severe, they would used to talk about ‘Q eidat i-Taaleemaat.’ Meaning ‘the decision database.’ It meant ‘you will be punished.’ For the worst cases they used to speak of logging in ‘Al Qaida.’

“In the early 1980s the Islamic Bank for Development, which is located in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, like the Permanent Secretariat of the Islamic Conference Organization, bought a new computerized system to cope with its accounting and communication requirements. At the time the system was more sophisticated than necessary for their actual needs.

“It was decided to use a part of the system’s memory to host the Islamic Conference’s database. It was possible for the countries attending to access the database by telephone: an Intranet, in modern language. The governments of the member-countries as well as some of their embassies in the world were connected to that network.

“[According to a Pakistani major] the database was divided into two parts, the information file where the participants in the meetings could pick up and send information they needed, and the decision file where the decisions made during the previous sessions were recorded and stored. In Arabic, the files were called, ‘Q eidat il-Maaloomaat’ and ‘Q eidat i-Taaleemaat.’ Those two files were kept in one file called in Arabic ‘Q eidat ilmu’ti’aat’ which is the exact translation of the English word database. But the Arabs commonly used the short word Al Qaida which is the Arabic word for “base.” The military air base of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia is called ‘q eidat ‘riyadh al ‘askariya.’ Q eida means “a base” and “Al Qaida” means “the base.”

More: http://www.globalresearch.ca/al-qaeda-the-database-2/24738

Please back to topic my friend Cidersomerset... :)

[Selkie]

If I were forced to vote, I would do a write-in and vote for Mickey Mouse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-in_candidate

[Gaia]

If I were forced to vote, I would do a write-in and vote for Mickey Mouse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-in_candidate

Too bad they were all invalid ballot entries in the November 2014... Florida doesn't count votes for ''Mickey Mouse'' any more... ''Just sayin'':p

P.S. Why you add your your pinch of salt without ever agree or give encouragement in your posts. I find it hostile ! Avalon has as much to offer in the respect of all individuals and members that dare to post a topic :) Keep sayin nothing about Mickey Mouse... I maybe wrong... That' all you always writing in all post! Just gave me your point of view on topic! We are not on Facebook!!! It's not a contest about '' Who get the more ''likes '' There a lot of place else to do that... ''Just sayin''... Add more substance on your post... De la chair sur les os....

[Selkie]

If I were forced to vote, I would do a write-in and vote for Mickey Mouse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-in_candidate

Too bad they were all invalid ballot entries in the November 2014... Florida doesn't count votes for ''Mickey Mouse'' any more... ''Just sayin'':p

P.S. Why you add your ^pinch of salt without ever agree or give encouragement in your posts. I find it hostile ! Avalon has as much to offer in the respect of all individuals that dare to post a topic :)

I often agree with people, Gaia. Maybe you have just missed the posts where I do.

On the subject of hostility, I meant no disrespect to you. There are lots of people here who do not like the government of the United States, and actively voice their dislike, and I am one of them, that's all. When we are given nothing but criminals and psychopaths to vote for, I don't know how else to feel.

addition I meant presidential elections. And if they don't count votes for Mickey Mouse, then I'd write something else in. But I could not, in good conscience, vote for anyone who is likely to win any party's primary election. There has been no one to vote for for decades now.

addition I also give encouragement quite a lot. Again, maybe you just haven't noticed.

[Gaia]

If I were forced to vote, I would do a write-in and vote for Mickey Mouse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-in_candidate

Too bad they were all invalid ballot entries in the November 2014... Florida doesn't count votes for ''Mickey Mouse'' any more... ''Just sayin'':p

P.S. Why you add your ^pinch of salt without ever agree or give encouragement in your posts. I find it hostile ! Avalon has as much to offer in the respect of all individuals that dare to post a topic :)

I often agree with people, Gaia. Maybe you have just missed the posts where I do.

On the subject of hostility, I meant no disrespect to you. There are lots of people here who do not like the government of the United States, and actively voice their dislike, and I am one of them, that's all. When we are given nothing but criminals and psychopaths to vote for, I don't know how else to feel.

addition I meant presidential elections. And if they don't count votes for Mickey Mouse, then I'd write something else in. But I could not, in good conscience, vote for anyone who is likely to win any party's primary election. There has been no one to vote for for decades now.

addition I also give encouragement quite a lot. Again, maybe you just haven't noticed.

C'est parfait je ne vous lis pas et ne vous suit pas....:ROFL: Back to topic We're not talking about Mickey.... Go somewhere else if you dont want to hear from what Donald Sutherland has to say....

[Citizen No2]

Gaia wrote:


P.S. Why you add your your pinch of salt without ever agree or give encouragement in your posts. I find it hostile !

Unfortunately text does not convey intonation, inflection or feeling.

I must admit that in the past I have re-read some of my posts and been slightly mortified as to how they may have been perceived.


Regards.

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Gaia wrote:


C'est parfait je ne vous lis pas et ne vous suit pas


Go somewhere else if you dont want to hear from what Donald Sutherland has to say....

Wow. How rude.

[Selkie]

If I were forced to vote, I would do a write-in and vote for Mickey Mouse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-in_candidate

Too bad they were all invalid ballot entries in the November 2014... Florida doesn't count votes for ''Mickey Mouse'' any more... ''Just sayin'':p

P.S. Why you add your ^pinch of salt without ever agree or give encouragement in your posts. I find it hostile ! Avalon has as much to offer in the respect of all individuals that dare to post a topic :)

I often agree with people, Gaia. Maybe you have just missed the posts where I do.

On the subject of hostility, I meant no disrespect to you. There are lots of people here who do not like the government of the United States, and actively voice their dislike, and I am one of them, that's all. When we are given nothing but criminals and psychopaths to vote for, I don't know how else to feel.

addition I meant presidential elections. And if they don't count votes for Mickey Mouse, then I'd write something else in. But I could not, in good conscience, vote for anyone who is likely to win any party's primary election. There has been no one to vote for for decades now.

addition I also give encouragement quite a lot. Again, maybe you just haven't noticed.

C'est parfait je ne vous lis pas et ne vous suit pas....:ROFL: Back to topic We're not talking about Mickey....

"This is perfect I do not read and do not follow you" translation via Google translate

Well, then, you are hardly in a position to criticize.

No, we were not talking about Mickey Mouse. We were talking about this,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84189-Three-cheers-for-you-Donald-Sutherland.&p=984820&viewfull=1#post984820

and this,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84189-Three-cheers-for-you-Donald-Sutherland.&p=984838&viewfull=1#post984838

as well as this,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84189-Three-cheers-for-you-Donald-Sutherland.&p=984822&viewfull=1#post984822

and that is why I said that I would do a write-in vote if I were forced to vote. And the more irreverent the write-in, the better, to send a message that they are not fooling anyone.

[Meggings]

Because of post #5 above http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84189-Three-cheers-for-you-Donald-Sutherland.&p=984831&viewfull=1#post984831...

I looked up Mr. Robin Cook on internet. He died of a "heart attack" while hiking in Scotland, at a time the newspapers quote friends saying he had never looked so fit and healthy. He was a man of formidable intellect and understanding.

"He sealed his reputation for political integrity with his resignation from the cabinet on the eve of the Iraq war. [And he died four months later.]
...John Prescott, the Deputy Prime Minister, described [Robin Cook] as 'the greatest parliamentarian of his generation'. Prime Minister Tony Blair was also quick to pay tribute. 'Robin was an outstanding, extraordinary talent - brilliant, incisive in debate, of incredible skill and persuasive power,' he said."

Of interest, I read that he was asked in 1994 to be leader of the Labour Party, but TWO CLOSE FAMILY MEMBERS DIED THE WEEK HE WAS ASKED. Do you suppose he was given warning not to accept leadership which would likely have led to him becoming Prime Minister of UK? Tony Blair, head of the Labour Party, became prime minister of the UK n 1997 until 2007.

Robin Cook apparently could not be manipulated; Tony Blair manifestly could be.

[Gaia]

If I were forced to vote, I would do a write-in and vote for Mickey Mouse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write-in_candidate

Too bad they were all invalid ballot entries in the November 2014... Florida doesn't count votes for ''Mickey Mouse'' any more... ''Just sayin'':p

P.S. Why you add your ^pinch of salt without ever agree or give encouragement in your posts. I find it hostile ! Avalon has as much to offer in the respect of all individuals that dare to post a topic :)

I often agree with people, Gaia. Maybe you have just missed the posts where I do.

On the subject of hostility, I meant no disrespect to you. There are lots of people here who do not like the government of the United States, and actively voice their dislike, and I am one of them, that's all. When we are given nothing but criminals and psychopaths to vote for, I don't know how else to feel.

addition I meant presidential elections. And if they don't count votes for Mickey Mouse, then I'd write something else in. But I could not, in good conscience, vote for anyone who is likely to win any party's primary election. There has been no one to vote for for decades now.

addition I also give encouragement quite a lot. Again, maybe you just haven't noticed.

C'est parfait je ne vous lis pas et ne vous suit pas....:ROFL: Back to topic We're not talking about Mickey....

"This is perfect I do not read and do not follow you" translation via Google translate

Well, then, you are hardly in a position to criticize.

No, we were not talking about Mickey Mouse. We were talking about this,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84189-Three-cheers-for-you-Donald-Sutherland.&p=984820&viewfull=1#post984820

and this,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84189-Three-cheers-for-you-Donald-Sutherland.&p=984838&viewfull=1#post984838

as well as this,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84189-Three-cheers-for-you-Donald-Sutherland.&p=984822&viewfull=1#post984822

and that is why I said that I would do a write-in vote if I were forced to vote. And the more irreverent the write-in, the better, to send a message that they are not fooling anyone.

I'm not an idiot to be referred to my own posts. There are a lot of substance in what Donald Sutherland says that has nothing to do with lightness to comment Mickey Mouse and I would add that it would be interesting to discuss the substance of why Donald Sutherland does not want to US citizenship ? Moreover, saveiz sure Donald Sutherland played the role Wilhem Rich in a more or less amateur film named Claude Busting early in his career. This well describes his way of.

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Because of post #5 above http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84189-Three-cheers-for-you-Donald-Sutherland.&p=984831&viewfull=1#post984831...

I looked up Mr. Robin Cook on internet. He died of a "heart attack" while hiking in Scotland, at a time the newspapers quote friends saying he had never looked so fit and healthy. He was a man of formidable intellect and understanding.

"He sealed his reputation for political integrity with his resignation from the cabinet on the eve of the Iraq war. [And he died four months later.]
...John Prescott, the Deputy Prime Minister, described [Robin Cook] as 'the greatest parliamentarian of his generation'. Prime Minister Tony Blair was also quick to pay tribute. 'Robin was an outstanding, extraordinary talent - brilliant, incisive in debate, of incredible skill and persuasive power,' he said."

Of interest, I read that he was asked in 1994 to be leader of the Labour Party, but TWO CLOSE FAMILY MEMBERS DIED THE WEEK HE WAS ASKED. Do you suppose he was given warning not to accept leadership which would likely have led to him becoming Prime Minister of UK? Tony Blair, head of the Labour Party, became prime minister of the UK n 1997 until 2007.

Robin Cook apparently could not be manipulated; Tony Blair manifestly could be.

Back to topic please!!

[Selkie]

Because of post #5 above http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84189-Three-cheers-for-you-Donald-Sutherland.&p=984831&viewfull=1#post984831...

I looked up Mr. Robin Cook on internet. He died of a "heart attack" while hiking in Scotland, at a time the newspapers quote friends saying he had never looked so fit and healthy. He was a man of formidable intellect and understanding.

"He sealed his reputation for political integrity with his resignation from the cabinet on the eve of the Iraq war. [And he died four months later.]
...John Prescott, the Deputy Prime Minister, described [Robin Cook] as 'the greatest parliamentarian of his generation'. Prime Minister Tony Blair was also quick to pay tribute. 'Robin was an outstanding, extraordinary talent - brilliant, incisive in debate, of incredible skill and persuasive power,' he said."

Of interest, I read that he was asked in 1994 to be leader of the Labour Party, but TWO CLOSE FAMILY MEMBERS DIED THE WEEK HE WAS ASKED. Do you suppose he was given warning not to accept leadership which would likely have led to him becoming Prime Minister of UK? Tony Blair, head of the Labour Party, became prime minister of the UK n 1997 until 2007.

Robin Cook apparently could not be manipulated; Tony Blair manifestly could be.

It is clear that these people really play hard ball. When things happen like you have posted above, Meggings, it is clear that voting actually means nothing because they will never allow anyone, in any country, to have any real candidates who truly represent the interests of the people. As they say, "If voting changed anything, they would have outlawed it a long time ago."

[Gaia]

Because of post #5 above http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84189-Three-cheers-for-you-Donald-Sutherland.&p=984831&viewfull=1#post984831...

I looked up Mr. Robin Cook on internet. He died of a "heart attack" while hiking in Scotland, at a time the newspapers quote friends saying he had never looked so fit and healthy. He was a man of formidable intellect and understanding.

"He sealed his reputation for political integrity with his resignation from the cabinet on the eve of the Iraq war. [And he died four months later.]
...John Prescott, the Deputy Prime Minister, described [Robin Cook] as 'the greatest parliamentarian of his generation'. Prime Minister Tony Blair was also quick to pay tribute. 'Robin was an outstanding, extraordinary talent - brilliant, incisive in debate, of incredible skill and persuasive power,' he said."

Of interest, I read that he was asked in 1994 to be leader of the Labour Party, but TWO CLOSE FAMILY MEMBERS DIED THE WEEK HE WAS ASKED. Do you suppose he was given warning not to accept leadership which would likely have led to him becoming Prime Minister of UK? Tony Blair, head of the Labour Party, became prime minister of the UK n 1997 until 2007.

Robin Cook apparently could not be manipulated; Tony Blair manifestly could be.

It is clear that these people really play hard ball. When things happen like you have posted above, Meggings, it is clear that voting actually means nothing because they will never allow anyone, in any country, to have any real candidates who truly represent the interests of the people. As they say, "If voting changed anything, they would have outlawed it a long time ago."

I dont care that peoples play hard balls. In my thread I would like to go back to topic instead of on answering to other peoples posts without bringing new or substantial stuffs. Why dont you bring something substansial on the topic. My thread is being derailed by YOU again!

[Citizen No2]

Gaia wrote:


Donald Sutherland played the role Wilhem Rich in a more or less amateur film named Claude Busting early in his career.


Donald Sutherland played Wilhelm Reich in Kate Bush's video for Cloudbusting.

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Regards.

[Gaia]

Donald Sutherland played Wilhelm Reich in Kate Bush's video for Cloudbusting.

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Regards.

Merci!!!:flower:

[Cidersomerset]

Robin Cook apparently could not be manipulated; Tony Blair manifestly could be.

Exactly meggings that's why I quote him so frequently , he was in the thick of it
and knew it was a fraud. He spoke in Parliament and in the mainstream media
and like Dr. David Kelly was probably 'suicided' because he insisted Iraq had
no 'weapons of mass destruction'.So the warmonger corporate B------'s can
keep their 'POWER ,CONTROL & PROFFITS ' up as well as keeping TNWO agenda .
I have put up loads of posts and several threads about this as have many others
on here. The whole thing stinks and we are being manipulated as TPTB, own the
mainstream media outlets . As I have said on other posts the dots keep connecting......

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Retired Surgeon David Haplin not confirmed Kelly did commit suicide. Total injustic & coverup !

Lord Faulkner, Tony Blairs Lacky help cover it up to contain it !!

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Uploaded on 20 Dec 2011

David Halpin reacts after a judge refuses his case for a judicial review of the UK
gov's decision to refuse to re-open the inquest into Dr David Kelly's death.
Interviewed by
Hassan Ghani. Condensed report http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQhLfg...


Diplomat was banned from talking about Dr David Kelly when giving evidence at Iraq Inquiry

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57276-Diplomat-was-banned-from-talking-about-Dr-David-Kelly-when-giving-evidence-at-Iraq-Inquiry

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There could be an older alien agenda going on , as another Canadian passes....


With the passing of 'Rowdy ' Piper RIP....A clip from John Carpenters They Live
seems appropriate...Unfortunately most of these Alien films end up with a gunfight.
But message about subliminals in this movie is great..."Obay , Conform , Buy " !!

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84156-Rowdy-Roddy-Piper-WWE-legend-dead-at-61

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84169-Canadian-Conservative-MP-Robotic-Drones-Pentagon-Employing-Top-Scientists-to-Improve-US-Propaganda-Machine&p=984693#post984693

[Selkie]

Because of post #5 above http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84189-Three-cheers-for-you-Donald-Sutherland.&p=984831&viewfull=1#post984831...

I looked up Mr. Robin Cook on internet. He died of a "heart attack" while hiking in Scotland, at a time the newspapers quote friends saying he had never looked so fit and healthy. He was a man of formidable intellect and understanding.

"He sealed his reputation for political integrity with his resignation from the cabinet on the eve of the Iraq war. [And he died four months later.]
...John Prescott, the Deputy Prime Minister, described [Robin Cook] as 'the greatest parliamentarian of his generation'. Prime Minister Tony Blair was also quick to pay tribute. 'Robin was an outstanding, extraordinary talent - brilliant, incisive in debate, of incredible skill and persuasive power,' he said."

Of interest, I read that he was asked in 1994 to be leader of the Labour Party, but TWO CLOSE FAMILY MEMBERS DIED THE WEEK HE WAS ASKED. Do you suppose he was given warning not to accept leadership which would likely have led to him becoming Prime Minister of UK? Tony Blair, head of the Labour Party, became prime minister of the UK n 1997 until 2007.

Robin Cook apparently could not be manipulated; Tony Blair manifestly could be.

It is clear that these people really play hard ball. When things happen like you have posted above, Meggings, it is clear that voting actually means nothing because they will never allow anyone, in any country, to have any real candidates who truly represent the interests of the people. As they say, "If voting changed anything, they would have outlawed it a long time ago."

I dont care that peoples play hard balls. In my thread I would like to go back to topic instead of on answering to other peoples posts without bringing new or substantial stuffs. Why dont you bring something substansial on the topic. My thread is being derailed by YOU again!

Gaia, I seriously do not understand why you are upset. The OP is about voting, isn't it? And I have responded with posts about voting. So have Cider and Meggings. So I don't understand why you are upset. I really don't. How is it derailing to post about voting when the OP is about voting?

[Gaia]

Mods please stop this thread. This topic was about what wrote Donald Sutherland in the Globe and Mail.

Gaia

[ThePythonicCow]

P.S. ...
I find it often works better to stay focused on whatever topic I do consider to be the main topic of a thread, rather than complaining that others aren't. The complaints risk turning things personal, and defocussing a thread even further. Stay calm, stay focused, stay "on target". Don't let a brief bit of humor by someone who happens to have a different sense of humor than you might have get one's feathers (noticeably) ruffled.

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Mods please stop this thread. This topic was about what wrote Donald Sutherland in the Globe and Mail.

Gaia
You can continue, back on the topic of this thread, if you choose. Or you can reaffirm that you'd like me to close it. Either way is fine by me.

[Selkie]

I really and truly don't understand what Gaia wants us to say.

[Cidersomerset]

Sorry Gaia for going off topic those bleadin dots keep taking me in different
directions , I wentfrom vote manipulation , to Harper backing Israel , to the NWO
to 'Rowdy ' Piper .I was going to quote the Anglo Saxon mission , but that will
have to wait for another thread , last post cheers all......

http://cdn3.free-power-point-templates.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/connect_the_dots.jpg

[Citizen No2]

Is this not what discussion is about?

It is not linear. It branches, twists and turns.

This is a forum, a place of assembly for the people.

To discuss.


Regards.

[Gaia]

Please Paul I'm asking you to close this thread.

Kathleen

[Gaia]

My name is Donald Sutherland. My wife’s name is Francine Racette. We are Canadians. We each hold one passport. A Canadian passport. That’s it. They ask me at the border why I don’t take American citizenship. I could still be Canadian, they say. You could have dual citizenship. But I say no, I’m not dual anything. I’m Canadian. There’s a maple leaf in my underwear somewhere. There used to be a beaver there, too, but I’m 80 now and beavers are known to take off when you’re in your 80s.

We live in Canada all the time we can. Our family house is here. Professionally, I still have to think twice when I say “out” or “house.” I have to restrain myself from saying “eh?”. In 1978, that’s nearly 40 years ago, the Canadian government made me an Officer of the Order of Canada. The Governor-General gave me the Governor-General’s Award a while back. I am on your Walk of Fame in Toronto. My sense of humour is Canadian. But I can’t vote.

Did you know that? If you don’t live here all the time you can’t vote. Americans who live abroad can vote. They can vote because they’re citizens! Citizens! But I can’t. Because why? Because I’m not a citizen? Because what happens to Canada doesn’t matter to me? Ask any journalist that’s ever interviewed me what nationality I proudly proclaim to have. Ask them. They’ll tell you. I am a Canadian. But I’m an expatriate and the Harper government won’t let expatriates participate in Canadian elections.

Did you read the editorial in Le Monde? A full page saying essentially that Canada isn’t Canada any more. That the beautiful, peace-pursuing dream that was Canada, the Canada you once knew and were so proud of, is no longer “Canada.” The article goes on to detail just who we’ve become and it isn’t pretty. It’s very sad. And this new “Canada,” this Canadian government that has taken the true Canada’s place, has furiously promoted a law that denies its citizens around the world the right to vote. Why? Is it because they’re afraid we’ll vote to return to a government that will once again represent the values that the rest of the world looked up to us for? Maybe.


Last week, the Ontario Court of Appeal overturned a ruling that had restored the right to vote of more than one million Canadians living abroad. The decision affects Canadians who have lived elsewhere for more than five years. Long term expats can't vote in federal elections, court rules.

If you are a Canadian Citizen, one of your "responsiblities" along with the Rights & Freedoms, is the ''Duty to Vote''. Bravo, Mr Sutherland. You are correct!

Thank you so much Mr. Sutherland. It's been a pleasure to follow your career from the beginning. I hope your protest will inspire other expats to overturn this odious, unfair legislation.

Gaia

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/im-canadian-and-i-have-a-right-to-vote/article25731634/


My only take is that you are trolling everywhere.... I would be sad if the mods take me on vacation or cancelled my account but truth must be said.... Sorry!!




Because of post #5 above http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84189-Three-cheers-for-you-Donald-Sutherland.&p=984831&viewfull=1#post984831...

I looked up Mr. Robin Cook on internet. He died of a "heart attack" while hiking in Scotland, at a time the newspapers quote friends saying he had never looked so fit and healthy. He was a man of formidable intellect and understanding.

"He sealed his reputation for political integrity with his resignation from the cabinet on the eve of the Iraq war. [And he died four months later.]
...John Prescott, the Deputy Prime Minister, described [Robin Cook] as 'the greatest parliamentarian of his generation'. Prime Minister Tony Blair was also quick to pay tribute. 'Robin was an outstanding, extraordinary talent - brilliant, incisive in debate, of incredible skill and persuasive power,' he said."

Of interest, I read that he was asked in 1994 to be leader of the Labour Party, but TWO CLOSE FAMILY MEMBERS DIED THE WEEK HE WAS ASKED. Do you suppose he was given warning not to accept leadership which would likely have led to him becoming Prime Minister of UK? Tony Blair, head of the Labour Party, became prime minister of the UK n 1997 until 2007.

Robin Cook apparently could not be manipulated; Tony Blair manifestly could be.

It is clear that these people really play hard ball. When things happen like you have posted above, Meggings, it is clear that voting actually means nothing because they will never allow anyone, in any country, to have any real candidates who truly represent the interests of the people. As they say, "If voting changed anything, they would have outlawed it a long time ago."

I dont care that peoples play hard balls. In my thread I would like to go back to topic instead of on answering to other peoples posts without bringing new or substantial stuffs. Why dont you bring something substansial on the topic. My thread is being derailed by YOU again!

Gaia, I seriously do not understand why you are upset. The OP is about voting, isn't it? And I have responded with posts about voting. So have Cider and Meggings. So I don't understand why you are upset. I really don't. How is it derailing to post about voting when the OP is about voting?


I really and truly don't understand what Gaia wants us to say.

[ThePythonicCow]

OK - wishing I had been here 8 minutes before I was - this thread is closed, as requested by Gaia.