Steven Greer states that SETI has received identified ET signals

[Bill Ryan]

.
In Art Bell's radio show of 5 August (2015), Art played a short audio statement by Steven Greer stating that many years ago he had been told by Frank Drake (http://www.seti.org/drake) himself (the founder of SETI, the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence), that confirmed ET signals had been received a number of years ago, and that the event had been classified.

Here's the audio (2 mins, 2.3 Mb)
http://projectavalon.net/Steven_Greer_Drake_SETI_Art_Bell_5_August_2015.mp3
This came in the third hour, about 10 mins before the end of the show.

If this isn't swept under the carpet, but is somehow picked up and becomes widely known, I'd guess this was most definitely a pre-disclosure gambit, for which Greer (a certain intel asset nowadays) had been used. The news item is most interesting, but it'll be equally interesting to see what might happen next.

[Gaia]

The WOW signal was recorded by Jerry Ehman on August 15, 1977 if I'am right. He was working on a SETI project (Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence) at the Ohio State University. The signal was identified as of a "non-terrestrial" and "non-Solar-system" origin that amazed everyone. Still it is not clear whether it was really send by Aliens source or just a result of any space event. According to Steven Greer SETI has received multiple extraterrestrial signals... My take is that SETI is open to public participation. If they wanted to publicize ET contact they could easily do so with a press release describing the contactee, discovery, contact timeline, and nature of the contact itself.

[Harley]

Hi Gaia,


If they wanted to publicize ET contact they could easily do so with a press release describing the contactee, discovery, contact timeline, and nature of the contact itself.

Negative! :)


The SETI Institute (http://www.seti.org/about-us) is a nonprofit corporation founded in 1984 (California Corporation #1261957). The Institute is a scientific and educational organization governed by the provisions of Section 501(c)(3) of the U.S. Internal Revenue Code, and the Institute's Federal identification number for reporting and tax purposes is 94-2951356. All contributions to the Institute will be used to further the goals described in our mission and are deductible to the donor for both State and Federal income tax purposes.

The Institute welcomes support from private foundations or other groups/individuals interested in SETI. Each funded effort (135 separate multi-year projects funded since 1984) is supervised by a principal investigator who is responsible to the Board of Trustees for the conduct of the activity.

Now take a look/see at the first six contributors from the the top of their list of sponsors:

1. NASA Ames Research Center
2. NASA Headquarters
3. National Science Foundation
4. Department of Energy
5. US Geological Survey
6. Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL)

For The SETI Institute to receive these funds they are required to agree to "certain" terms.

Now think of the movie Contact (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118884/).

In other words: "You will do what we say or we will pull your funding".

So you see? There really are bits of facts that you can get from the movies!

:)

[Bill Ryan]

-------

The story first surfaced here:

http://ufocasebook.com/contactmade.html





On the July 30, 2006 "Coast to Coast AM" radio broadcast, Art Bell made the following announcement.

According to Dr. Steven Greer: (paraphrased) We have confirmation that SETI has received signals "confirmed" as contact from an alien source. These multiple signals are increasing in number and frequency.

"Two inside sources from SETI" have confirmed this information. Efforts are being made to get one of the sources (a senior official) to go public with this information.

Since the beginning of the reception of these signals, a human force has attempted to "jam" these transmissions.

This statement was made by Dr. Greer as early as May of this year.

He has added that these signals are without a doubt "extraterrestrial".

SETI has denied that an extraterrestrial signal has been received.


Here's the 5 minute audio from that show:

http://projectavalon.net/contactmade.wma
...converted to
http://projectavalon.net/contactmade.mp3

(The original .wma is no longer active on the above UFO Casebook link, but can be found on archive.org (http://archive.org), here: http://web.archive.org/web/20060820220247/http://www.ufocasebook.com/contactmade.html)

[Bill Ryan]

.
Reported here shortly after, in the UK's The Register:

http://theregister.co.uk/2006/07/31/signals_seti





SETI urged to fess up over alien signals

Alien hunters today pounded the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Institute here with e-mails and phone calls, following claims made this weekend that the organization has covered up the detection of signals from space.

Allegations of a SETI cover up were made last night on the fringe-friendly Coast to Coast radio show hosted by Art Bell. During the broadcast, professional SETI watcher Steven Greer, the CEO of Space Energy Access Systems, claimed that insiders told him that SETI discovered a high concentration of signals from space, and that another organization stepped in to block those signals. SETI, however, maintains that it has not seen any signals of note.

According to Greer, the space communications have caused a major stir at SETI, which hunts for intelligent life in outer space.

"They have had numerous extraterrestrial signals," Greer said, during the radio broadcast. "They were apparently searching in a spectrum or in an area . . . where they hit the mother lode. The signals were so numerous that they began to have their systems externally jammed by some sort of human agency that did not want them to continue receiving those signals."
And where did Greer get this fantastic information? Apparently, from a well-known source within SETI.

"This person, if I were to say who he is, almost every one your listeners would probably know the name," Greer said.

Bell's Coast to Coast show is famed for dealing with matters that many would consider far from reality. The radio host has enjoyed a phenomenal career discussing ghosts, UFOs and things that go berserk in the night with an eclectic set of guests. But it's worth noting that Bell, who only hosts the show on the weekends now, and regular host George Noory often break stories such as the Dubai ports deal well before the national media.

That's not the case this time around, according to SETI.

"There's been nothing like that at all," said a spokesman, who described Greer, as "the bane of SETI's existence."

Greer runs a SETI rival, if you will, called CSETI (http://www.cseti.org/) and often claims that SETI is withholding evidence of alien life from the public. His comments triggered a torrent of e-mails and phone calls to hit SETI today, according to the SETI spokesman.

In this particular instance, the fine people at SETI seem a bit more tethered to the reality spectrum. Greer, after all, relied almost exclusively on hearsay in his discussion with Art Bell. In addition, Greer claimed that members of SETI were in on some type of conspiracy to keep alien life secret while at the same time being attacked by a third party trying to block alien signals from SETI. That's an awful lot of maneuvering - most of which makes little sense.

That said, technophiles should enjoy guessing who Greer's secret source might be.

Back in the day, SETI had serious backing from one of HP's early employees - Bernard Oliver. Over the years, the organization has received funds from such Silicon Valley institutions as NASA Ames, HP, Sun Microsystems, and the Gordon and Betty Moore foundation. Microsoft co-founder and space buff Paul Allen is also a major SETI backer.

Sun's CTO Greg Papadopoulos is the current Chairman of SETI. Could aliens be responsible for Sun's recent sales spike? Let us know. ®

~~~~


Just in case anyone's getting lost here, the point behind this thread is that Greer has now stated that the source for his initial announcement was none other than Frank Drake himself, the founder of SETI. In itself, that's rather a bombshell revelation.

[Harley]

I still distinctly remember, from many years ago ('70's), when world news broadcast that SETI had intercepted an Extraterrestrial Transmission.

During that news broadcast there was no mention of the "WOW!" signal, nor the accompanying photo of the printout.

I recall waiting for a long time after that to hear more news on it, but there was nothing.

Now that I think about it and look back, it wasn't for some years after that before I first heard about the "WOW!" signal and printout.

Hmn . . . Maybe we just woke up some more! :)

[Harley]

Just in case anyone's getting lost here, the point behind this thread is that Greer has now stated that the source for his initial announcement was none other than Frank Drake himself, the founder of SETI. In itself, that's rather a bombshell revelation.

Yes it is. And especially so since SETI is actually covertly controlled by the gov.

Also, I wanted to bump this comment:


The signals were so numerous that they began to have their systems externally jammed by some sort of human agency that did not want them to continue receiving those signals."

Think about it folks (Very Important). The source of the "human agency" jamming of these ground-based receivers would have had to been from space.

[Yetti]

There is too much noise on the web about something big will happen next September , considering the fact that WE are the ones who create our own reality, well... I will keep my brain locked up in the events I called: too good to be true (an intervention in this planet to put an end to the dark cabal once for all). David willcok is on the subject here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrt_03XoD6E
By the other hand there is a bunch of disinfo posts everywhere trying to focus the mind of the people in very different scenarios, like comets, terrorist attacks, and all kind of BS like, Personally, I want to see all the political criminals, Big pharma CEO's , Banksters , all in prison forever!! ( with their lawyers).

[Agape]

Richard Dolan writes something about it in his book : UFOs and the National Security State: Chronology of a Coverup, 1941-1973 (https://books.google.cz/books?id=Zgw35KTLOVoC&pg=PT278&lpg=PT278&dq=frank+drake+tau+ceti+dolan&source=bl&ots=JBUggc0SiK&sig=BKvmsVl64Iwi7MqCFDgRu0qRFz8&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=frank%20drake%20tau%20ceti%20dolan&f=false)

I don't think I can copy exactly from the google books page but the chapter is called :

Project Ozma Detects Signal

From what I've heard from people involved in the SETI project , there are many short anomalous 'signals' received on peoples computers worldwide , the problem is they never repeat themselves .
For ETI signal to be considered 'real' it would have to be then confirmed by 3 independent astronomical observatories and match some kind of 'intelligent criteria' ,
first presumption is it would show repetitive pattern and be of substantial length too.

So an anomalous 'bleep' no matter how curious the curve simply won't do .

Frank Drakes' daughter writes about the project Ozma and its beginnings here :

No place like home -Phenomena (http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/03/10/why-theres-no-place-like-home/)

And there's plenty of references you can get if you search 'Frank Drake Tau Ceti Signal ..'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tau_Ceti


The problem : you can't exactly trust Dr Greer on his social attitudes and resulting statements .
I don't mean any wrong .. I'd trust Steven Greer on his spirituality and ET contact experiences and efforts , unprecedentedly . I have no doubts he's for real and means well but ..

where it comes to the popular statements he makes in books and lectures ( such as 'I had a dinner with director of CIA and briefed him on UFOs/ETs and he's told me this n that ) they're more than often rejected by the other person/s involved .

I think we are talking of 'smart journalism' here but not the 'science' . People who are journalists ( or book writers ) by profession or interest search for 'spicy tips' all the time .
We all have them and they're easy to misuse . I'm sure your life and your lab experienced many interesting moments and ideas ( in between the years of dull work ), if you're genuine and intelligent you've probably been close to the Eureka moment many times .

But it's not the point : you can write wonderful science fiction book based on your 'spicy tips' and get a Pulitzer price , become world famous etc etc.
It's what most journalists and writers aim at anyway . But it's not what the science is about , usually .

Or what truth is about , for that sake .

I mean no disrespect really but level of 'truthfulness' really differs from person to person and culture to culture and journalists are not known for being precisely the 'most reliable source of information' ( with few good exceptions ) as long as their intent is to 'sell product' .
It seems to be 'perfectly permissible' within these 'media circles' , for example , to use someones single quote ( where it may be 'social quote' such as one struck in conversational mode but not really representing peoples opinions in long term , or serious claims ) as base of 'fantastic claim' of discovery .
Even your MSM are full of such 'gags' .

From what I've observed personally .. and the phenomenon is global and no way tight to conspiracy subjects alone , every public speaker probably have their ounce of experience with this ( some tons , not ounces ) when trying to convince your audience to a concept , or meaning of a story , no matter how well and honest you intended to stay .

It's also why 'public discussions' often fail , on the presumption that 'if we all are good and honest ..' ( we will come to results ) .
So I believed . Maybe you did as well .

But the 'art of publicity' is about something else .. popularity and 'experience building' and maintaining an image and defeating counter opinions and befriending supporters and followers .

Here, we're swimming in one pool with all these people .. who in my opinion , can't be completely trusted on their 'social statements' and many other claims either ,
it's simply not all 'one and the same thing' .
People and other living entities too , have individualities . Religions and agnostic science hand in hand preached to people for very long now about 'being all the same' .

Nothing could be further from the truth .. in fact . Not even two leaves of the same genus of plant you find in nature are EVER morphologically , completely the same ; at least not on Earth.
Your church , your regimes, your collectivism taught this long enough now , and your technical civilisation tries to expand : the induction of 'photocopies' .

Ask yourself why ? To make it simple for you . You want to believe it's simple, snap .

In reality there are 6,5 billion or more people on the planet of whom each is unique individual, of unique qualities . Yes some do look and function more like photocopies because they were taught it's the way to survive and live happily,
from the millions of people at production lines in China printing your food packages and daily gadgets ,
to the army of grey suited businessmen , perfectly polished running for their meetings on capital cities streets , and collar workers , dressed in stereotyped fabrics a-la the latest fashion fad .
Millions of soldiers in uniforms marching through someones training camps right at the moment, looking one like another from distance .

From greater cosmic perspective .. the span of individual human life is about long as one of firefly or perhaps , the life span of bug in one of your microbial colonies you're observing under microscope .
They all look the same .. and yet , they are not .

How many people and their characters can you remember without 'typifying' them to some kind of 'simple column' . Can you . Where would this civilisation be without all sorts of measurements and 'typified tests' really , rhetorical question ?
How accurate are they ?

Can any 1 ( or even 10 ) tests with 50 or 500 questions describe who you are .

If you believe it ( I know you don't ) you've failed the test forwards . Any test . All these people ..from Archimedes to Carl Jung live in your Mind,
you can talk to them there . They've invented those 'measures' and 'scientific methods' to help you out .. so you can test them in return ,
and surpass their methods .

If you can't do that : as living intelligence : you'd have failed .

Long topic short : it's possible we're receiving signal all the time . The telescopes so far record only very narrow band of frequencies where possible candidate signal would be detected .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_line

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/Aikatwo/photo3055.jpeg (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/Aikatwo/media/photo3055.jpeg.html)

[Gaia]

I still distinctly remember, from many years ago ('70's), when world news broadcast that SETI had intercepted an Extraterrestrial Transmission.

During that news broadcast there was no mention of the "WOW!" signal, nor the accompanying photo of the printout.

I recall waiting for a long time after that to hear more news on it, but there was nothing.

Now that I think about it and look back, it wasn't for some years after that before I first heard about the "WOW!" signal and printout.

Hmn . . . Maybe we just woke up some more! :)

The 'Wow! signal was received at 11.16pm on August 15, 1977 the night before Elvis died as a radio telescope in Ohio swept its gaze through the constellation of Sagittarius.

It lasted 72 seconds and was earned its name because of the message of disbelief Jerry Ehman, a researcher with the Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (SETI) programme, scrawled next to the printout recording it.

A scan of the original computer printout, taken several years after the 1977 arrival of the Wow! signal. The Wow! signal was never recorded in audio.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/17/article-0-11C79A64000005DC-350_468x265.jpg

Timeline:

August 16th, 1977: President Jimmy Carter, after receiving a briefing by his scientific advisors announces the radio signal to the world as a "profound discovery, which serves notice that we are not the sole heirs of creation..."


August 18th, 1977: Senator William Proxmire voices his scepticism, stating about the president's speech,"It's the best argument yet for chopping NASA's funding to the bone .... I say not a penny for this nutty fantasy..."

August 21st, 1977: Senator Bob Dole and William Proxmire demand an investigation into the "WOW! signal".

August 25th, 1977: A Senate Committee is formed to investigate the "WOW! signal".

August 26th, 1977: Moral Majority leader Jerry Falwell states during a rally in Virginia Beach, Virginia,"Without Divine interference we are alone in the universe and without Christ we are—and should be—terrified. The gospel is as relevant as ever..."

November 12th, 1978: Scientists question the "Wow!" signal during a press conference in Washington D.C. calling it a "political football"

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/chasing-ufos/articles/what-is-the-wow-signal/

[Harley]

1. The announcement (by experts or officials) of the discovery on national tv/radio.

2. The retraction or modification of the announcement (by experts or officials) on national tv/radio.

3. The subsequent uproar of denial by the government, church, etc.

All sounds kind of familiar? Well it should because they had plenty of practice.

Roswell (http://roswellproof.homestead.com/)

[bogeyman]

.
In Art Bell's radio show of 5 August (2015), Art played a short audio statement by Steven Greer stating that many years ago he had been told by Frank Drake (http://www.seti.org/drake) himself (the founder of SETI, the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence), that confirmed ET signals had been received a number of years ago, and that the event had been classified.

Here's the audio (2 mins, 2.3 Mb)
http://projectavalon.net/Steven_Greer_Drake_SETI_Art_Bell_5_August_2015.mp3
This came in the third hour, about 10 mins before the end of the show.

If this isn't swept under the carpet, but is somehow picked up and becomes widely known, I'd guess this was most definitely a pre-disclosure gambit, for which Greer (a certain intel asset nowadays) had been used. The news item is most interesting, but it'll be equally interesting to see what might happen next.

I find it remarkable we search for life out there and think it is so important yet we are destroying the our own life and our environment....they detected signals for out there long ago, ask your selves, if some are telepathic in nature and have no ear lobes why would they use primitive radio signals? We cannot even get on with ourselves in this small world, and a very divide one at that. We see people of a different country, religion, skin colour as a foreigner, so what the hell are people of this mentality going to think ago other life out there???? You wonder why it is classified, I think I have answered your question.

[Gaia]

1. The announcement (by experts or officials) of the discovery on national tv/radio.

2. The retraction or modification of the announcement (by experts or officials) on national tv/radio.

3. The subsequent uproar of denial by the government, church, etc.

All sounds kind of familiar? Well it should because they had plenty of practice.

Roswell (http://roswellproof.homestead.com/)

With one exception, my friend : Roswell did not have Elvis's death as a diversion in the media.

[Hawkwind]

Maybe I'm being dense, but I don't see what the big deal about this announcement is. Greer has already stated that two ET craft were downed at Roswell. That a live alien was recovered from one of the craft. That Majestic was created as a result and that agency then took charge of programs which reversed engineered the craft. That ET craft were encountered on the moon during the Apollo missions. That huge ET craft were observed by Cassini near Saturn. That he has personally communicated with and called ET craft to appear near him on numerous occasions. etc. By comparison this latest announcement hardly seems Earth-shaking. (Although I can appreciate that it would cause headaches for SETI).

[ghostrider]

What's really sad , is in 1979 the Plejaren sent a letter to the Carter Administration offering open official contact , and the Carter Administration turned it down ...http://www.theyfly.com/1979_Letter.htm

[Agape]

Maybe I'm being dense, but I don't see what the big deal about this announcement is. Greer has already stated that two ET craft were downed at Roswell. That a live alien was recovered from one of the craft. That Majestic was created as a result and that agency then took charge of programs which reversed engineered the craft. That ET craft were encountered on the moon during the Apollo missions. That huge ET craft were observed by Cassini near Saturn. That he has personally communicated with and called ET craft to appear near him on numerous occasions. etc. By comparison this latest announcement hardly seems Earth-shaking. (Although I can appreciate that it would cause headaches for SETI).


It can feel dense . With all the big and great statements out there how honest is it there's no intelligent , involved response to either of such claims
from any accredited scientific authority ?

So far , from the side of those people there continues but denial or sillyfying if not vilifying of individuals .
We've got used getting silenced , being 'turned off' , misheard, over heard , never heard, compared to religious movements and freaks ,
labeled non existent .

It's fairly as dense and abusive as living in cage with several millions of bears some of whom can get very very angry .

Mankind is progressing , seemingly very fast technologically at the moment and that's what occupies many peoples main viewing angle ,
they see their future in technologies and those will 'save' the world .
So far so well , yes we need much better technologies ..

and yet , the very principles of science , the 'hard core 3D science'
can not reach very far beyond this earth ,
well yes i know we've been to Pluto recently ..

while billions of people are still struggling on this planet

and can not unite their perspectives, their differences with ease .



Imagine ... x

:star:

[Agape]

See what I found ...



http://www.hngn.com/articles/113856/20150729/china-builds-mile-wide-telescope-find-e-t-s-signals.htm

China Builds Telescope To Find E.T.s, Signals From The Cosmos

China's enormous telescope, 500 meters in diameter, includes a dish suspended from thousands of steel pillars and cables.


It seems that China will steal the thunder from the Stephen Hawking and Yuri Milner-led consortium that aims to find extraterrestrials, as the Asian country announced that it is building the world's biggest radio telescope to "listen" to the universe.

Hawking and Milner founded a group of scientists and technologists in an initiative called Breakthrough Listen, HNGN previously reported. They will, however, rent some of the world's powerful telescopes to scan the cosmos and pick up signs of life.

China, on the other hand, will build its own gigantic radio telescope the size of 30 football fields, the Daily Mail has learned.

Dubbed the Five-hundred-meter Aperture Spherical Telescope (FAST), the project is currently being constructed in the Guizhou province, in China's southwestern region. The telescope will be made of 4,450 reflective panels, which will be held together by cables that also control coordinates. The People's Daily Online learned that the FAST telescope can pick up signals beyond the solar system. It can also reportedly help prove Albert Einstein's relativity theory, a Chinese physicist told the Daily Mail.

Lest skeptics start claiming that the telescope is a copycat to the Hawking-Milner project, officials are quick to explain that the initiative was already proposed in 1993, and construction itself commenced when it was approved in 2006.

The project, which cost 1.2 billion yuan ($193 million), is expected to be finished in September 2016. Upon its completion, FAST will take the title of the world's most powerful telescope, which is currently held by the U.S.'s Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico, Value Walk reported.



:sun:

[araucaria]

Further back (in 1961), you also have Project Ozma, which, if you look no further than Wikipedia, was a dead end, although they don’t say as much. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Ozma What happened apparently was that the minute it proved successful the original project was replaced with a fake project run by the military.
Here is a page from Maurice Chatelain’s book Our Cosmic Ancestors which I have quoted on several occasions before, notably in the two posts referenced below.


Early in 1961, Otto Struve, the director of the National Science Foundation’s radio astronomy observatory at Green Bank, West Virginia, and Frank Drake, his assistant, initiated Project Ozma to search for radio signals from outer space, in order to determine if there were other civilizations in space trying to contact us. No one was prepared for what was going to happen, even those who had worked so long and so hard to finally get the authorization to perform the experiment.
There are several stars located at a reasonable distance from the Earth, only a few light-years away, suspected of having a planetary system comparable to ours. For some reason, it was decided that the most favorable of these stars at that time was the star Tau Ceti, in the constellation of Cetus, the Whale, which is located close to the celestial equator and next to the constellation of Aries, the Ram.
The huge parabolic antenna of the observatory was aimed in the direction of Tau Ceti. The mechanism of compensation for the rotation of the Earth was set in motion; then the receiver, maser amplifier, and recorder were turned on. The only thing left to be done was to wait, but those attending the experiment did not have to wait too long.
Almost immediately, the needle of the recorder began indicating strong signals which, for any specialist in space communications, could mean nothing but a coded message from an intelligent correspondent on a planet orbiting Tau Ceti. The signals lasted for about two minutes, then stopped, leaving those attending stupefied and unable to say a word. Finally, the whole thing was classified ‘secret’ and that was the end of; it had lasted little more than two minutes.
However, there was a general feeling in the scientific circles of that time that a message from outer space had been received and deciphered, but that, for some reason, it was decided that it could not be disclosed to the public. Since then a new Project Ozma has been initiated, but by military personnel this time... p. 185-6

Chatelain goes on to cite another case:

... The second case of communications with a space civilization, which was reported in Paris-Match, 21 April, 1973, occurred in the Soviet Union. Two Russian specialists in space communications, Vsevolod Troitsky, director of the Radiophysics Research Institute of Gorki, and Nicolai Kardashev, director of the Space Research Institute in Moscow, were absolutely convinced that they had received radio signals from an extraterrestrial civilization.
They initiated their space listening program in 1970, with four radio frequency receiving stations located far apart from each other. This allowed them, by comparing the signals received, to eliminate terrestrial interferences and keep only the space signals, those that were identical from the four receiving stations. These signals from outer space whose duration varied from two to ten minutes, were repeated at regular intervals, following a regular pattern. For these scientists this indicated, without any doubt, that they had an artificial origin and that they were transmitted by intelligent beings whose culture was at least as advanced as ours.
The two Russian scientists have not succeeded so far in establishing the exact origin of these signals, but they are positive that they must originate from our solar system, either from another planet or from one of the satellites or even from an alien spacecraft from another solar system. p. 186

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70258-Is-Dr.-Steven-Greer-Corrupted-By-The-Alien-Intervention&p=821639&viewfull=1#post821639

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73575-Some-of-my-Experiences--UFOs-ETs-US-gov-&p=865525&viewfull=1#post865525

[Atlas]

[...] Steven Greer stating that many years ago he had been told by Frank Drake (http://www.seti.org/drake) himself (the founder of SETI, the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence), that confirmed ET signals had been received a number of years ago, and that the event had been classified.

Here's the audio (2 mins, 2.3 Mb)
http://projectavalon.net/Steven_Greer_Drake_SETI_Art_Bell_5_August_2015.mp3



Over 50 years ago the NSA confirmed coded ET signals and made a report on it:

http://m.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/ufo/key_to_et_messages.pdf
http://m.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/ufo/key_to_et_messages.pdf

So why is SETI pretending to search?

A NASA member of our group asked a very senior SETI official in the 1990s at NASA Ames research center and the SETI official confirmed: It is to create a "smokescreen" to make it LOOK like scientists are searching for ET when they know we are already being visited! It is, in fact, a cover story.

This coneys (by logical implication) to the mainstream media , the public and the rest of the elite scientific community that ETs are not here, UFOs are not real- because after all REAL scientists are still searching for a radio signal! Moreover, why would other ET races need to use speed of light radio signals? Any advanced species would use super-luminal (faster than speed of light) technologies, and everyone at NSA, CIA and NRL (Naval Research Labs, Washington DC) knows this.

One of the top-ranked scientists at NRL confirmed that they (at NRL ) had experimented with such super-luminal systems but that they have not declassified the technology. And so the SETI two-step continues with an injection of $100 million of new funding...
Source: https://www.facebook.com/Dr-Steven-M-Greer-194568653910069/timeline/