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Delight
8th August 2015, 01:48
I just came across Jan Peter de Jong and Alfredo Gamarra's work thanks to youtube poster 77GSlinger (https://www.youtube.com/user/77GSlinger). This is fascinating IMO so sharing here........

This information ties together observations concerning calendars, vitrified stone of magalithic size and an expanding earth theory.


The Cosmogony of the 3 worlds. (http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,47200,47200)

The Cosmogony of the 3 worlds is based on the existence of a biological zone, located in our planetary system, in a position neither very proximal nor too far away from the sun, that determinates the appropriate environment for the existence of life. This biological zone includes 3 different orbits, being at the moment our planet in third, last and most distant (from the sun) orbit of the biological zone.

In his proposal Alfredo Gamarra does not accept a stable orbit of 365 days. He indicates the existence of orbits more closer to the sun, those locations of our planet made it possible that other physic laws could exist, and one can also explain, basically because of difference in gravity, different forms of life, and ways of construction, ruins, which till now have not been explained satisfactorily, among others.

The first biological orbit.

According to the ‘Andean Cosmogony of the 3 worlds', this phase is denominated the HANAN PACHA (land of the heaven above), that was located in a orbit of 225 days per year. This is reflected in the oldest calendar of the planet, well-known by archaeology as ‘La gran portada del sol (the great door of the sun) in Tiahuanaco.

In this time, because of the optimal conditions of physic laws, humanity could live eternally, did not know fatigue, stature of man was about 4m.20, man was able to fly without having wings, all this because of the small amount of gravity. Man was also able to amass stone and used a molding technology, under high temperatures. Nowadays this can be recognized in monolithic structures, in which vitrification is present. In this orbit the anatomic structure of the human being was cartilaginous, as a result of the little atmospheric pressure. Giant species of animals and plants could exist. The vegetation and the climate as it is mentioned in the Bible, was paradisiacal in all the planet.

The second biological orbit.

The second biological orbit is known as URAN PACHA (land of the heaven below). It was located in an orbit of 260 days per year, as is testified by the Tzolkin calendar, attributed to the Mayas. In this orbit humanity lost it’s immortality, but was able to live for centuries, as is told by the Bible and the Dead Sea Scrolls. The anatomic quality of man was semi-cartilaginous. Their constructions in stone were of cellular expression. No longer monolithic, as in the previous orbit.

Because of less gravity than in the present orbit, it was possible to transport giant stones and over great distances, as for example reflect Stonehenge, Sacsayhuaman and even the pyramids of Giza. The big megalithic stones show vitrificacion on their borders, sign of the use of a technology that permitted maximum perfection in the assembly of the pieces. Giant species could still exist, as the dinosaurs and giant plants, being possible their lifes because of little gravity.


The third biological orbit.

The third biological orbit is known as UKUN PACHA (Land of the heaven inside). Also known as the SUPAYPAYWASIN (house of the demon), or the KAYPACHA (this existence). Expressed in the present orbit of 365 days as is reflected by the sacred calendar HAAB, also related to the Mayan culture. The expressions in the constructions are cellular and are obtained by technology of hammer and chisel.

The expression of life is the one that we know, men of meat and bone, by consequence of the bigger atmospheric pressure and of more gravity (1kg of pressure by cm2, that means that an adult person has to support an atmospheric pressure of 15.000 kg., determining in this way physical and mental capacities). In the begin time of this orbit existed beings like Homo sapiens and Hominids. They were the evidence of man readapting himself to the new, in unfavorable way altered, environment. Orthodox History just starts here, arguing that we come from the monkeys.

Witnesses of the cosmogony of the 3 worlds.

*Legends of giants in all cultures and mysteries of the giant species in the past, are related to less surface gravity of the Earth (http://www.ancient-mysteries-explained.com/biology-mysteries.html).
*The Bible, about man living eternally and thereafter for centuries and later only for 120 years.
*The expressions in the stones of many ruins, specially in the Inca ruins. In those ruins we can recognize always 3 different styles:
1. Monolithic, vitrified ("http://grahamhancock.com/jongjp1/)

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2. Megalithic, with stones perfectly fitting

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3. Small Inca stones, not perfectly fitting

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A testimony is also, that each later style shows a respect for the previous culture (http://www.rutahsa.com/found-1.jpg, Uran Pacha over Hanan Pacha).

Although we find these 3 styles in greater amount in the Inca ruins, they also exist in other parts of the world, for example the mayor pyramid of Giza, being the underground chamber of the HANAN PACHA, the base of the pyramid on the North side and the Queen’s room or Serdaf of the URAN PACHA, and everything after being of the UKUN PACHA. The same we find in for example Malta, being The Main Hall of the Hypogeum of HANAN PACHA (see [web.infinito.it] ), and the constructions over it of URAN and UKUN PACHA. In Stonehenge we find inside of the 3! circles a vitrified stone of the HANAN PACHA (http://www.anthroarcheart.org/tbly35.htm ). We can evaluate many old ruins in the rest of the world in this way.

*The 3 pyramids of Giza are each one an expression of an orbit, the biggest pyramid of the actual world, representing it’s dimensions, and the other 2 of the other 2 earlier orbits.

*Mars already passed through the biological zone; it seems that there are rests of vestiges, but the present physic laws on Mars do not permit life (maybe only in the form of bacterial life).

Important elements in actual science that can confirm the theory of Alfredo Gamarra:

*The theory of the expanding earth (s in James Maxlow's presentation)
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a perfection of the theory of the floating continents, indicating the existence of previous phases of the world that were smaller. Nevertheless in this theory different orbits are not taken in account. We added this factor, which can be confirmed if we apply the principle to other planets; being bigger a planet, it is more distant from the sun. This also can be confirmed by the theory of Einstein: he established that at greater speed mass increases. Planets increase their velocity of rotation when they are more distant from the sun.

*The Thermo-luminescence method to determine antiquity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoluminescence_dating ). Method that can be used to measure materials that have been heated to at least 350°C.
Stones and vestiges that have been constructed and vitrified in HANAN PACHA and URAN PACHA, are supposed to be measurable with this method. Data already exist, indicating antiquities much older of vestiges than recognized in orthodox archeology.

*Consequences for Russian astronauts of being exposed during a long time in space to the state of ungravity: their bones softened, and the process of renovation of their cells was almost zero, so one can conclude that in space, with zero gravity, theoretically life must last longer.

*The change of orbit was suddenly, with immediate consequences for climate and life on earth: The glacials Wurm and Wisconsin, whose origins are still not exactly known, have their origin in the change from one orbit to another as Alfredo Gamarra says. La Place said they were consequence of a change of axis of the Earth; scientists of a few decades ago thought, that they were slow and progressive processes, during hundreds of million of years. This is discarded by the finding of mammoths in Siberia, who were eating vegetation of tropical flora, the immediate change is determined because the food they were consuming, was found in a not digested form.

* The disappearance of giant species, like the dinosaurs, are due to a change of orbit. The reptiles that today exist are adaptations to the new physic laws

* The species that less have been affected by change of orbit, are the marine species, because in the water the effect of change of gravity and atmospheric pressure is a lot smaller. The giant marine species (whale, sperm whale) are of cartilaginous anatomic structure, as were the human beings of the first orbit.

The theory of Alfredo Gamarra includes a lot more: having coherent answers also on the following aspects: Origin of the humanity, location of the Sacred Places of Origin, Mars, giant Monuments in general, Megaliths, vitrification, species, Location of the cradle of civilizations like: the Egyptian, Etruscan, and cultures of yellow ethnic groups, studies on the first universal language, studies of important archeological monument like the pyramids of Giza, Stonehenge, Borobudur, and Sacsayhuaman, and the location of Atlantis, to mention some of them.


precision, the giant dimensions, the different styles, the phenomenon of ‘vitrification’, etc.. All of this is repeated in other ruins, in the same way and in the same order, from Cusco to Sacsayhuaman, from the Sacred Valley of the Inca to Machu Picchu. Eventually, it is repeated on the global level; we can see the same phenomena in Egypt.

The point is that we see things, but we do not know how they were made, when they were made, or by whom they were made......... The opinion of Alfredo Gamarra, however, offered a surprising and refreshing alternative.

-There are three different styles to distinguish, and the first style plays a central role, being located under or in the centre of the following 2 styles

-The existence of ”vitrification”, a phenomenon in which the stone is very smooth and highly reflective.

-The presence of a large quantity of stones that seem to be deformed or molded like clay

-the repetition of this all in all ruins in Cusco and its surroundings, but also on a global scale

Alfredo Gamarra came to the conclusion that the 3 different styles matched 3 different periods. The first style is sacred for the styles thereafter. The first 2 construction styles were built in a time when gravity and density were less, and therefore, all materials could be worked on a grander scale with more ease and could then be more easily transported.

The Hanan Pacha time

The first style and period. Called by Alfredo the Hanan Pacha time, meaning Land of the Sky from Above, or the time of Paradise on Earth. This first style, with its corresponding monolithic building style, is seen as especially sacred all over the world. There was reason enough to build great monuments over it, such as the great pyramid of Egypt, which is built over the underground chamber, which is a typical example of this building style. Less gravity may explain how stone could have been modified. Even more striking examples of this architecture are the mountain on which Machu Picchu is built, the stone in the middle of the circles of Stonehenge, and the mountains on which the ruins of Pisac, Ollantaytambo, Chinchero and Sacsayhuaman are built. These examples show how certain areas of the rock come to the surface and were modified by this first culture in a characteristic way.

Another fine example is the Rock of the Dome, the stone inside the mosque on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, a sacred monument for Jews, Muslims and Christians. Nowadays it is a piece of rock on which all 3 religions make their claims, but the message of Alfredo is this: One world, one religion, because this stone is sacred, because it is from the beginning time of human history!

Alfredo Gamarra said there was a 225 day calendar at this time, a calendar which was discovered on the Sun Gate in Tiahuanaco, near Lake Titicaca in Bolivia. So a time in which Earth was closer to the Sun, was smaller and therefore had less mass, resulting in less gravity.

The Uran Pacha time

The second style and period. During the second period it was still possible to make use of the circumstances of lesser gravity; it was also easier to manipulate the stone, but not so much as during the first period. Characteristic of this time is the way that stones fit together perfectly, without the use of a bonding material such as cement between them. These stones can be very large, rectangular or polygonal. Examples can be found all over the world. Very impressive are the walls of Sacsayhuamán.

I could personally see that in Peru the phenomenon of vitrification is related to this building style, as if the stone has undergone a molecular change. This is normally seen on the connection points. Also, other spots on some of the stones can be detected that underwent the same treatment, making it look as if an iron was used to mold the stone. At night, with artificial light, the reflective edges and other spots can be noticed, for example in the centre of Cusco.This style is often built very carefully around or over the first style. During this period, according to Alfredo Gamarra, there was an orbit of 260 days, a calendar equivalent with the Tzolkin calendar of the Maya.

The Ukun Pacha time

The third style and period. The third style is the simplest style. Small stones that were treated with a hammer and chisel, sometimes very precisely so as to seemingly mimic the 2nd style, but never as perfectly fitting. This was in in most cases the work of the Inca in Peru. They too had a lot of respect for the previous 2 styles, as they also built over or around those earlier styles. This is not an underestimation of what the Inca were capable of; they simply had not the technology to do the same.

Alfredo Gamarra came to these interpretations as a result of dreams, literature review, research in the field, and study of the Quechua and Aymara languages, the ancient languages of the people living in and around Cusco. ............

The underlying idea of his theories is the division of the history of mankind in 3 periods, with lesser gravity on Earth during the 2 earlier periods. This comes back through his whole work The Cosmogony of the Three Worlds (http://grahamhancock.com/jongjp2/)

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Delight
8th August 2015, 05:56
IMO the questions of science are becoming more interesting as we discount the assumptions through new information. Also, the varied disciplines when united are synthesizing new connections!

I found a very interesting pdf that outlines the Discoveries of Alfredo Gamarra (http://www.ancient-mysteries-explained.com/support-files/discoveriesofalfredogamarra.pdf). I am ver curious to investigate more.


The Discoveries of Alfredo Gamarra can be resumed as follows:
1. -America (North and South) is not the New World, but a much older World
than what is normally assumed.
2. -The origin of many cultures over the World can be traced down to
especially Peru.
3. -The Vestiges of the Incas are much older than Inca Time; the Incas built
over already existing vestiges.
4. -In ancient times a special technology must have been used as can be
seen in the vestiges of the Incas. The technology used was with heat, as the
existence of vitrified stones shows, and with stones that were molded; they
were worked upon in a soft state.
5. -On world level the same building styles from before the Incas can be
found in many ancient and sacred vestiges.
6. -Peru and especially the area of Cusco and the Sacred Valley has been
important from the begin time of humanity. Alfredo Gamarra's investigations
led to the conclusion that here the Sacred places of Origin, mentioned in the
Sacred Scripts of several religions, can be located.
7. -Quechua and Aymara are the oldest languages of the World, remnants of
the first spoken language of humanity. Many other languages can be related
to them, with Quechua and Aymara being more original.
8. -In ancient times other physical conditions existed in this world; which
made it possible to do extraordinary things in the rocks, it was possible for
life forms to be bigger (inlcuding human beings), it was possible to live longer
(accounts from several sources show that humanity lived longer in the past),
and the physical and mental capacities were superior to present day humans.
Alfredo related this to less gravity and less atmospheric pressure in the past.
9. -Alfredo came to the conclusion that different calendars existed in the
past, meaning that earth went through different orbits. Humanity already
would have existed in 2 earlier orbits, orbits in which gravity was less. Earth
originally would have come from the sun. In time, earth goes further away
from the sun and increases in mass, just like other planets.


David Tabott is a proponent of the Electric Universe and its evisceration of conventional wisdom.

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Is there any support for an expanding earth? Personally, I can imagine in an electric Universe that planets grow up too eating nutritious plasma streams.

Perhaps the Electric Universe correlates with a growing earth?


S. Warren Carey's book, Theories of the Earth and Universe: A history of dogma in the Earth Sciences was published in 1988. Carey's two premises are that there is a continuous process of creation going on in the Earth's interior and that the Earth is receiving new matter from space in a normal process of accretion. As a result, this planet is approximately 50% larger than in was during the Age of Dinosaurs, for example.

Carey did not provide an explanation for how matter was formed out of nothing in the Earth, nor did he consider it a problem. In his eyes, the nature of the question was more fundamental:

"As a geologist, I insist that the Earth has expanded, and leave it as a cosmological problem of the whole universe. Hence I do not see it as a problem specifically for the Earth, or for the solar system, but for the Universe and Cosmos."The Expanding Earth Debate (http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2008/arch08/080222expandingearth2.htm)

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The connection between an Electric Universe and the creation of matter is fairly straight forward in an Electric Aether Universe. Here matter as we recognize it is actually swirls or vortexes in a gaseous sea of aether particles. The more energetic the swirl, the more compact the aether particles become as lateral sidewise vibration is translated more and more into ordered flows, thus reducing the external pressure and causing conglomerates of such swirls to be pressed together by the surrounding random vibration of the aether medium. Thus the relationship between mass, gravity, and electrical energy, and why matter creation would occur more often inside gravitationally dense bodies. Far from being a case of creation ex-nihilo, creation actually would then be occurring exactly where the aether particles and energy are the densest.

The Electric Universe and the Expanding Earth theories are not mutually antagonistic, they are actually synergistic. Take for example the Valles Marineris. Astro-physicists call the four large mountains close by - giant shield volcanoes. Electric Universe proponents call them electrical anode depositions. If the EU theory is correct, and they are the result of massive electrical currents flowing into Mars, then in a Electrical Aether Universe this concentration of electrical energy within a gravitational body should stimulate the generation of more aetheric swirls of matter. The body, Mars in this instance, would thereby grow - or expand. From a distance, the area connecting the closest anode body with the western end of the Valles Marineris looks just like an electrical blister formation on a piece of steel - one in which the metal expanded and twisted, splitting and rupturing the medium. If this electrical activity, formation of new matter, and expansion all occurred due to the near approach of another planetary body with a different electrical charge, it is certainly possible that electrically charged matter was flung out towards the other body from the rent - just as mythology has indicated.http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1184

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"biological transmutation". Essentially, the Universe is a vast machine manipulating matter, transmuting it; shaping it, growing matter everywhere, even as we speak. That things like Low Energy Nuclear Reactions are occurring on a regular basis; biological, non-biological, etc... That's how the Earth grew, the planets, everything.Are the Planets growing discussion (http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1184&start=75)

The characteristic monumental architecture that includes vitreous stone has been found in all parts of the world. Vitreous stone has some unusual properties. It can seem metalic.

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super megaliths were found and photographed for the first time by Georgy Sidorov on a recent expedition to the Southern Siberian mountains. The following images are from Valery Uvarov's Russian website. There are no measurements given, but from the scale depicted by the human figures, these megaliths are much larger (as much as 2 to 3 times larger) than the largest known megaliths in the world. (Example: The Pregnant Woman Stone of Baalbek, Lebanon weighs in at approximately 1,260 ton). Some of these megaliths could easily weigh upwards of 3,000 to 4,000 tons.https://www.academia.edu/6200990/Super_Megaliths_in_Gornaya_Shoria_Southern_Siberia

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"How did they move thousands of tons of material?" in liquid form. "How do they get them to fit so snugly?" just melt and mold them into place.

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Snoweagle
8th August 2015, 11:14
Awesome thread, thank you @Delight.

Researcher: Alfredo Gamarra

For several years I have persued a particular line of inquiry into mankinds behaviour over time. A long time. A time before records were available. I've had a story to tell though it had "holes", infusing discontinuities to the timeline. This information now closes those gaps and now I believe there is continuity to the story. I cannot assert, at this time, endorsment of the presented evidence as actual or definitive to it's accuracy though the alignment of this info to the "bigger picture" is startling. I'm nicely excited.

Reflecting the impact this has now made to me personallyis palpable, it enables me now to review the archaeological evidencial "testimony" collaborated by "experts" and correct it. When I researched the South American prehistory of the Mayans and Aztecs and others, evrything I read did not ring true. The translations of hieroglyphs were wrong in my opinion. I have corrected that. The city of Teotihuacan is "not a city!". The population did not hack each others heads for sport or worship. And the temples of the Moon and the Sun were exactly that but the purpose of each were magnificently beautifully different. The entire region, virtually throughout middle South America is festooned with euphamistically called temples, They were not "temples" they were observatories.
There is NO evidence in South American lore that purports to worship of gods. Only modern day scripture bashers "intellectually raping" the archaeological evidences.

What this article has shown me is the evidence exists by independant researchers that clearly identifies "three" periods of geological time where something impacted the glogal populace simultaneously and their preparations for impending disaster which the ancients could foresee happening. This was the etched into the Mayan calender with its countdown to an end with no new beginning. They knew before hand that survival was unlikely.

Furthermore, these three periods, HANAN PACHA, URAN PACHA and UKUN PACHA represent only the timlines available that we now apparently have records for, yet there were more. There were also significant periodical events occuring between these apparent established periods as well, where evidence is found but is disparate or without association to either of those or known timelines.

I had been looking forward to Graham hancocks new book which he collaborated with Randall Carlson in making sense of the timeline in respect of North America (and others) as I had intended to break my story then in September 2015 to leverage support from their muses. No, there is no conflict or challenge by my presentation. All I will do is join the dots and expand and envelop the evidence - hopefully.

Ancient Mysteries promote Alfredos Gamarra's research:
http://www.ancient-mysteries-explained.com/alfredo_gamarra.html
Graham Hancocks forum discusses Alfredo Gamarra's work:
http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?1,47200,47200

Delight
8th August 2015, 15:46
I had intended to break my story then in September 2015 to leverage support from their muses. No, there is no conflict or challenge by my presentation. All I will do is join the dots and expand and envelop the evidence - hopefully.

I look forward to your connections. Thanks also for the links to read.

I am wondering if anyone is still uncertain about "mankind's" INTELLIGENT presence (in some form or other) over millenia. The fact that people invested in remembering their oral traditions like the Andean elders, Egyptian elders have begun to speak to us is important. What if we just accept that we do not know how many epochs passed but that


evidence exists by independant researchers that clearly identifies "three" periods of geological time where something impacted the glogal populace simultaneously and their preparations for impending disaster which the ancients could foresee happening. This was the etched into the Mayan calendar with its countdown to an end with no new beginning.

What if we ask questions not about "is this possible???" but how what we can learn as all science evidence is linked? I am sure we have in all the theories and supporting evidence we may only find partial "truth" but we do have an innate wish to know more and that means IMO we are able to approach clear understanding or we would not have it in us to try.?

When I was a student at the university level, I loved studying archeology/anthropology. I know that I was not able to ask "good questions" then. One of my professors said the highest mark of intyelligence is not answers but the profound ability to ask significant questions and continue in the face of all "reasonable" answers. This was startling at the time.

When Graham Hancock's book 1995 "Fingerprints of the Gods" came out, I was blown away. Michael Cremo's 1993 Forbidden Archeology was another Woohoo!
looking back to the early 80's, I am awed by how much the situation with human awareness of the earth's past has altered. I know we are blessed by the internet.

IMO, the evidence now is absolute that we have past multiple epochs of earth experience inhabited by sentient intelligent earthlings. The questions are possible numberless. Now IMO, the exciting part of the information age may be that without needing actual physical "digging", we may look at the layers under us. We can, even as armchair synthesists make some connections. With luck, maybe we can even help break through the dense forgetful veil? This is my highest excitement and I feel tingly when I come across new avenues.

Wherever we are, we are given some information to link. One of the bits I have had about our proximal origin "place" comes form living in the North America Appalachian mountains. Near me is a "fort" on top of a mountain. It was built according to the recent Cherokee by "the Moon eyed" people.

The Appalachian region is ancient, There is mystery right under my own feet. There is mystery under everyone's. IMO, we are UP for the enjoyment of knowing our connections to all this ....(only word I can come up with as the feeling) MYSTERY. This trumps all warring conflict and may yield so many New old ways of being that will not just see us survive but thrive!! IMo this is because we are part of a living organism that transcends all local expressions. Being part of this COMPLETE picture is challenging to people who project that the way we see "reality" must be based on models that are disconnected like "artificial" civilization developed out of the medieval mindset.

The implications of the Electric Universe and the earth changes that are implied by the Expanding earth are that everything is changing on a grand scale at all times so we cannot depend on what has already happened for guidance. Once we know that this moment is bound to bring new change, to look at the whole in the largest context as to appreciate how to cooperate with the Universal design.

IMO we are given the equipment by our very existence to appreciate our place in the cosmos. Knowing the past is importnat to this context. Maybe the most important questions will occur to us now?

Delight
8th August 2015, 16:51
One of the areas of perspective is "how do we know something". Alfredo Gamarra intuited and "channeled" some of his information. One of the big debates in the scientific community is the role of consciousness. the vedas suggest the idea that we experience cycles of consciousness and we are in the time of most dense and dark materiality focus. If we have been imposed upon by a greater density of "matter", we may need to consider the probability that in this form we now inhabit, we do have the respnsibility to work with this issue. The focus on how to reach into other levels of existence and utilize knowledge is one we are just beginning IMO.

Graham Hancock has been a proponent as have others of research into consciousness as a necessary tool. Issues like "What is death of the body", beliefs we have about "what is reality", "what is the purpose of life" "Is there an original Creator and is there a plan for the Universe"....all this is the most important point of having our consciousness in the Kali Yuga. We don't "normally"just GROK our relationship to the All and Everything of the Field of Life.

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IMO, we are here for a really good reason at this time of all times! to be aware in a multidimensional way may be possible now despite the handicaps because we are here to acchieve this very possibility? It is important to transcend the assumptions of the matrix system of "awareness" that we have incorporated to be the operating reality. Again, this pursuit transcends the mundane focus on sheer survival of the systems to honor the thriving of LIFE.


The existence of telepathy and other capabilities, ascribed to the gods from the myths and legends of many cultures, we can explain as follows: due to less gravity, everything was less dense in that time, so matter was easier to master by our thoughts. I agree with the principle that there exists a field in which everything is connected with everything, as described in the famous book by Lynne McTaggart, “The Field.” McTaggart proves the existence of this field; it is the universal force, which is also connected to the human spirit and thought. In this way, she explains telepathy as well as distance healing. Today, however, few people realize this principle due to the density of our existence, and apart from some very talented people, we only seem to realize this once we make use of methods like meditation, prayer, hypnosis, metaphysics or the use of drugs.

This brings us back to Alfredo Gamarra. He claimed, for example, that by the change of orbit from the 2nd to the 3rd period, humanity lost its ability of telepathy and had to learn to talk. Before that time, we did not need to talk. It was the time of the Babylonian Confusion of Languages. Thinking in the way of McTaggart, it suddenly became for man much more difficult to make contact with the field because of an increased density by the increased gravitational force.
The Cosmogony of the Three Worlds
Artefacts of Lost Science from the Ancients (http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-cosmogony-of-three-worlds-artefacts.html)

If this the case, it just means that we need to develop the subtle body muscles to withstand the force of gravity.

IMO, by deciding that we may "journey" in consciousness, by learning how the earth has given us the possible tools to communicate with more subtle consciousness, we can begin to approach the subject and DO this activity. One of the pitfalls is IMO already seen in PA and other forums where the focus is on the "information" gleaned rather than the conceptual understanding of how the subtle realms operate and PRINCIPLES at work. One needs to KNOW that this realm is reality but one must be prepared to meet it. Shamanic knowledge is gained by practice.

To be skilled is the important point!

Training in the way of the "rules" of contact first needs awareness this is possible. The nature of the reality we perceive is apparently the product of our mental ideas. Much has been said in other threads about "entities"and blocks and assumptions are made about the intent of "negative forces". IMO we are all taking a crash course in consciousness development. If one succeeds, then one can learn something profound.

There are some rules of the road. If we are dense, perhaps we are here to bring the lightening of OUR consciousness to the matter at hand. So here we have the PA intention to bring spirituality to science and may take it to the next step....