Project Camelot - Clark McClelland & Project Paperclip

[KiwiElf]

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Published on Aug 8, 2015


This is another amazing interview with Clark McClelland, NASA engineer and technical assistant on the Apollo missions. He talks about an incoming planetary body, or STAR being towed along behind what he calls a DYSON SPHERE containing a race of beings... Possibly from Aldebaran and headed into our solar system.

He talks at length about Wernher von Braun, the fact that the beings from Aldebaran are here and have been here working in our space program and supplying advanced technology to the Germans during WWII...

He again refers to the nine foot tall humanoid being spotted on the space shuttle via close circuit camera giving our astronauts orders using hand motions... and he is backed up in his testimony, by at least 2 other NASA employees.

He also talks about inner Earth and what really happened to Hitler. This is great stuff.

[Bill Ryan]

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Kudos to Kerry. When we were working together, we tried many times to secure an interview with Clark, who were were in good touch with — but he always wanted to be paid. I believe this is Kerry's second interview with him. I'm downloading it now, and I'll certainly be most interested to hear Clark's new testimony.

[Cidersomerset]

After Kerry introduces the interviewee, Clark says he is 8o yrs old in bad shape,
being punished by his former employers and the government for being a
'whistle blower' a reminder why not many come forward.

Two massive objects are on the way to our way from the constellation Aries ,

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one he speculates could be a massive Dyson sphere........

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aprox 25 mins...Clark says "We have had bases on the back of the moon for years ,
and colony on Mars"......near the end of the interview he says humans have bases
on the front side of the moon as well in craters he won't mention, and the secret
space fleet has been ferrying operatives to Mars and back for decades.

He goes onto mention much that we have heard before , and if you are interested
in this part of the field you will recognise a lot of the different aspects. Massive of
info but very broad , and needs a bit more clarity and order. Kerry did well as the
connection is not as clear as it might be. Clarks voice is a little frail but a interesting
interview , but does need more clarity I think......


I'm doing a bit of ' connect the Dots ' , doodling...LOL


Gen Mc Cclellend was a very high ranking Union General and fought in many civil
war battles , most notably against Gen Robert E Lee and the Army of North Virginia.

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1961 speech Eisenhower Warns us of New World Order

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The next President for all his faults did try to curb TNWO ,

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After that from Bush Snr to now the ' picked and groomed ' leaders compliant
and part of this agenda........

New world order quotes from different world leaders 2015

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The New World Order definitely exists as a concept and is probably well and truly
happening all around us.....

[Citizen No2]

Listened to this elsewhere earlier this morning.

Nothing new to hear here.

No offence to Mr McClelland.

This is a man that was part of the official space programme , was he not?

Let's just think about that for one moment.



Regards.

[KiwiElf]

The size Clark gives to the Dyson sphere is staggering: 1+ million miles in diameter (larger than our Sun); the Star it's towing is 20 x that!

[Bill Ryan]

After Kerry introduce the interview ,Clark says he is 8o yrs old in bad shape,
being punished by his former employers and the government for being a
'whistle blower' a reminder why not many come forward.



Yes... this is exactly what can often happen to real whistleblowers who go against their orders or contracts.

Anyone who is speaking out in volume and getting rewarded for doing so is being sanctioned and protected, because it suits the agenda of the punishers — to coin a term.

[ghostrider]

Mr. McClelland was an important figure at NASA in days gone by , sad to see NASA turn on him , after all his contributions to the program and exploring space ... think about it , back then space presented a host of obstacles they had to foresee , and come up with first time solutions/ no blue print ... trial by fire so to speak ... I have corresponded with him via email in the past, he does read them and does reply to us average folks , I respect that ...he is bold and a cut to the chase kind of guy behind the scenes ...

[ghostrider]

sidebar- anyone who brought NAZIS into the United States no matter their reason , should be in jail ...period ... the entire mindset that runs in America today , stems from the NAZIS thinking that one group is better than another , mind control , secrets , spying , experimenting on peoples thinking patterns , it has morphed into a virus that cannot be stopped ... now to feel safe people think they need less freedom ... we went to stop Hitler not bring his playground into the country that stands for freedom ... Hitler was influenced by a rogue element of the plejaren's ancestors , it's part of the reason for 13,500 years they have tried to bring spiritual teaching to Earth by way of the seven prophets ... ET's , Hitler , mind control , this stuff is more connected than most people want to believe ... this rogue element helped bring technology to a planet not ready for advanced knowledge , one cannot access greater power without spiritual values namely the protection of innocent life above all other ambitions ... they very things we should follow are ignored - peace , freedom , love , harmony, balance with nature , instead it was all used for weapons , War , religion , and world domination ... the moment we reach into space , we garner attention from ET's and some are not so nice ... thankfully we have guardians from rogue elements , twice we were about to be invaded , the plejaren stopped them but , for ourselves , they will let us choose our fate ...they will not allow anymore outside ET's ( since 1995) to keep us from choosing our own fate , and using our own free will ...

[gripreaper]

sidebar- anyone who brought NAZIS into the United States no matter their reason , should be in jail ...period ... the entire mindset that runs in America today , stems from the NAZIS thinking that one group is better than another , mind control , secrets , spying , experimenting on peoples thinking patterns , it has morphed into a virus that cannot be stopped ... now to feel safe people think they need less freedom ... we went to stop Hitler not bring his playground into the country that stands for freedom ... Hitler was influenced by a rogue element of the plejaren's ancestors , it's part of the reason for 13,500 years they have tried to bring spiritual teaching to Earth by way of the seven prophets ... ET's , Hitler , mind control , this stuff is more connected than most people want to believe ... this rogue element helped bring technology to a planet not ready for advanced knowledge , one cannot access greater power without spiritual values namely the protection of innocent life above all other ambitions ... they very things we should follow are ignored - peace , freedom , love , harmony, balance with nature , instead it was all used for weapons , War , religion , and world domination ... the moment we reach into space , we garner attention from ET's and some are not so nice ... thankfully we have guardians from rogue elements , twice we were about to be invaded , the plejaren stopped them but , for ourselves , they will let us choose our fate ...they will not allow anymore outside ET's ( since 1995) to keep us from choosing our own fate , and using our own free will ...


Here’s what we do know.

1. Earths evolution began 14 billion years ago and evolved into an indigenous sentient species of humanoids which held the collective dream of full consciousness within a body, the ability to hold the fullness of spirit and remain differentiated from source, and connected to source.

2. Somewhere along that evolution, outside factions of interlopers came to earth and imbedded and imbued their DNA and consciousness into ours and influenced the evolution of earth, both in positive and negative ways.

3. We are all hybrids and carry the DNA of these interlopers in one amount or another, and there were possibly several different interferences in our evolution by many different factions.

4. These interlopers have claimed the divine right to rule over this planet and consider themselves as gods, and their agendas and bloodlines preserved in perpetuity. Some of them are abhorrently evil and inhuman.

5. These interlopers withdrew the ancient knowledge and have used this knowledge to extract energy and natural resources for other planets and races, and they have connections into the astral with other entities, some of which are from their planets of origin.

6. The agendas of these interlopers do not align with the collective dream of the indigenous earth humans, and therefore the polarization of duality continues to foment divisiveness in consciousness as well as the biological development of the species and the planet.

7. All of the institutional structures, such as religion, education, science, government, military, corporations, courts and justice, etc., have all been designed to malign consciousness and keep humans from the historical truth of the evolution of earth, and maintain the hierarchical power structures put in place by these interlopers.

8. Humans have the ability to be fully conscious and aware, and have the capacity to manipulate matter and consciousness provided they wake up and recognize their power.

9. The alleged agreements which hold the collective in the bondage of subservience to these interloping factions do not need to remain in place, and humans are growing tired of the games and the curses being held in the earth matrix.

10. There is a convergence of variables which energetically are providing an opportunity for either a New World Order of complete slavery and subservience to these interloping god’s, or the full awakening of consciousness spiritually connected to source, and the shifting from a scarcity based paradigm of overlords to an abundance based paradigm of sovereign conscious souls.

WE GET TO CHOOSE

http://www.andiesisle.com/creation/magnificent.html

[ghostrider]

until they undo the genetic tampering that was done to us , we will have a very long road ahead ...it is no accident man lived to be 1,000 years old in bible days and now only 80-100 years ...the original sin - genetic altering of life ... it is my belief those angels and gods of our past , were not gods/angels , they were highly evolved humans from another world , enslaving the lower evolved Earth human , and creating the idea a human needs a power over him ... mental slavery that Earth just won't let go of ... 289,000 years ago they dropped a little idea and today it still controls humanity ...

[Deega]

Thanks Gripreaper, very well put, like it, a succint synthesis of what was (with the intervention of Interlopers), is, of us.

[WhiteLove]

After Kerry introduces the interviewee, Clark says he is 8o yrs old in bad shape,
being punished by his former employers and the government for being a
'whistle blower' a reminder why not many come forward.

Two massive objects are on the way to our way from the constellation Aries ,
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Awesome post!

[bogeyman]

Dr Eric Walker was apart of Project paperclip he went to Germany to find some specific scientists this was confirmed by Dr Walker himself. Also I did read a book, cannot recall title, in which Dr Hans Kammler was a subject of a FOIA request, initially the US Army Intelligence and Security Command stated there are many Kammlers in there records and indexing system, then a few months later a flat denial of any records under that name existed. He was a subject of Project Paper Clip also.

[Bill Ryan]

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Oh boy, was that hard to listen to. Poor Clark.

For me, the most astonishing piece of information in there (by far) was that Clark had met Hans Kammler in person at NASA.

That's quite a bombshell, and seems most likely indeed to have been a real event.

[bogeyman]

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Oh boy, was that hard to listen to. Poor Clark.

For me, the most astonishing piece of information in there (by far) was that Clark had met Hans Kammler in person at NASA.

That's quite a bombshell, and seems most likely indeed to have been a real event.

There is a documentary call The Space Race, a drama reconstruction of its beginnings, Dr Wernher Von Braun superior towards the end of the war was Dr Kammler or rather SS General Kammler as he was known then, he was ordered to kill Braun if the war was completely lost (i.e. the Fuhrer was dead), fortunately Dr Braun had suspicions of this and escaped with his colleagues before the order was carried out.

[Star Tsar]

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Oh boy, was that hard to listen to. Poor Clark.

For me, the most astonishing piece of information in there (by far) was that Clark had met Hans Kammler in person at NASA.

That's quite a bombshell, and seems most likely indeed to have been a real event.

I agree on all points most of all your opening one perhaps for different reasons...

[kemo]

When he is speaking about his personal experience, people he has met etc I tend to believe what he says. Other information or his interpretation of that information is more suspect. Can't quite credit this Dyson Sphere business - whatever that is - so maybe his sources are a bit suspect. And he says no-one talks to him any more anyway so I don't know where he gets it from.

[araucaria]

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Oh boy, was that hard to listen to. Poor Clark.
I'm sorry, Bill, but I am distracted by poor Kerry, who I how has been ill: when told of a star with a diameter of 22 million miles (around 14:20), she asks how it compares in size with the Moon, and he answers that that is about 21 million miles larger than the diameter of our Sun, in other words. 22 times the size of the Sun. I am wondering, has Kerry always been as bad as this with numbers, is she deliberately acting dumb, or what?

[Bill Ryan]

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Oh boy, was that hard to listen to. Poor Clark.
I'm sorry, Bill, but I am distracted by poor Kerry, who I how has been ill: when told of a star with a diameter of 22 million miles (around 14:20), she asks how it compares in size with the Moon, and he answers that that is about 21 million miles larger than the diameter of our Sun, in other words. 22 times the size of the Sun. I am wondering, has Kerry always been as bad as this with numbers, is she deliberately acting dumb, or what?

Yes, Kerry has always been a little discombobulated by numbers, magnitudes, distances, physics, names and history. :)

[ThePythonicCow]

Yes, Kerry has always been a little discombobulated by numbers, magnitudes, distances, physics, names and history. :)
So I guess we start worrying when, one day, Kerry shows up with the physics mastery of Paul LaViolette, the names and history mastery of Joseph P. Farrell, and the numbers mastery of Catherine Austin Fitts ... (have some other beings incarnated in Kerry's body?)

[gripreaper]

the physics mastery of Paul LaViolette, the names and history mastery of Joseph P. Farrell, and the numbers mastery of Catherine Austin Fitts ...

And you Paul, have found the tripartite holy grail for the current times. Please take note those who can stand back from the canvas far enough to see the big picture and not get hung up on any one group of pixels.

[araucaria]

Yes, Kerry has always been a little discombobulated by numbers, magnitudes, distances, physics, names and history. :)
So I guess we start worrying when, one day, Kerry shows up with the physics mastery of Paul LaViolette, the names and history mastery of Joseph P. Farrell, and the numbers mastery of Catherine Austin Fitts ... (have some other beings incarnated in Kerry's body?)
If I begin by stating that Kerry is a wonderful lady doing a wonderful job, may I now go on to explore the idea that this crazy upside-down logic presents an aporia, or seemingly insurmountable difficulty, that cannot simply be swept under the carpet by suggesting that an accurate big picture view can be built up from a corpus of wildly vague details? Or that the big picture is a starting point that leads to such a vaguely pixellated picture. Or that Kerry is merely the interviewer giving a voice to the experts. There is an elephant in the room here that can only turn people away if they feel that a scientist for example cannot be serious if he is talking to someone so ‘discombobulated’: at some stage, the discombobulatation has got to be rubbing off on the interviewee.

The Moon is a little under 22 hundred miles across (2160 to be precise). Compared with 22 million, that is an error of four orders of magnitude. How bad is that? I once spotted a typo in New Scientist stating that there were 109 galaxies in the visible universe (instead of 10^9). That is an error of seven orders of magnitude, which is of course comically worse than four, which would amount to saying there are 100,000 galaxies instead of a billion. To visualize this, imagine a middle term at the top of the image below.


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In terms of space age engineering, this sort of sloppiness is of course so absolutely unthinkable that we need to scale back to a child’s meccano set to see what happens when tolerances are repeatedly ignored. I recently had a little girl here trying to build an Eiffel Tower: the base assembly compounded too many approximations for the vertical pieces to even meet at the top, so she could never finish her tower of Babel. Alternatively, we may think of something more in the manner of a sophisticated and elegant architecture that is built on constantly moving ground and yet miraculously stays up – for the time being at least. I was talking only the other day about the Leaning Tower of Pisa. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83133-The-Corey-Goode-affair-various-updates-from-David-Wilcock&p=988290&viewfull=1#post988290 ).

Here is another analogy for what seems to be going on. A while back I scanned a reproduction of a jet black section of a fine art work. However, on zooming in, there was not a single pixel of black. Whether this was due to the printer’s ink or the artist’s paint, the bottom line is that the eye can see a very deep black that actually contains no black at all, only various shades of indigo and violet. In his book Men in Black (1995), John Harvey retraces the history of fashion in terms of improving approximations of black, which started out as a muddy dark brown. Twenty years on, it is often difficult to find a garment in any other colour. And the same goes for white: some of the finest pictures of driven snow are colourful paintings by Monet. In other words, the problem lies with our visual limited-spectrum colour wheel from red to indigo that closes in on itself, somewhere between the extremes of black and white, which can only be guessed at.


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The solution to the problem lies in recognizing the false symmetry of this picture. Whereas white light is the combination of the entire spectrum, blackness is its impossibly complete, reduced-spectrum negation: it can only be approximated in the real world since the real world is the all, and its opposite, nothing, is… nothing, i.e. no-existent. Hence the issue of no stars in the night sky, and a fortiori why no blue sky, is anything but anecdotal. It is black ops clearly overstepping the mark, as it was bound to do sooner or later. Total darkness is a fiction, it does not exist. You may as well turn back, there is nothing to see here, passing off as something – not quite literally nothing, let’s say next to nothing. See how this works here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83133-The-Corey-Goode-affair-various-updates-from-David-Wilcock&p=988415&viewfull=1#post988415

Finally, the other major Moon anomaly is its size: as a natural satellite, it is far too big to be where it is – the very definition of an elephant in the living-room. So, on reflection, I would see Kerry’s ‘moon shot’, conflating four orders of magnitude, not so much as an intellectual demonstration of the big picture as its physical embodiment. This is precisely what is to be expected from a lightworker delving into these matters. The Leaning Tower of Pisa will collapse just as soon as we stop shoring it up.

For how this is done, see this post:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78630-John-Lash-s-Kalika-war-party&p=969181&viewfull=1#post969181

[araucaria]

I have another difficulty, with regard to Clark McClelland, whom I accept as a true whistle-blower in dire financial straits and who needs help. This has nothing to do with acceptance or otherwise of his declaration regarding a star 22 times the size of Sun, accompanied by a Dyson sphere, approaching us from the constellation Aries, although I would admit to difficulty conceiving of a ‘dark giant’ wherever it might be. It sounds like a whole new astronomical concept, since dark stars and brown dwarves generally fail as stars for being too small. But leaving that to one side, the problem is as follows. It concerns his sale of Moon-related artefacts and memorabilia at what are acceptable prices for collectors’ items. What makes them any different from Corey’s coffee mugs? It makes laudable sense for someone strapped for cash to offer whatever possessions he has for sale (as opposed to merchandise) rather than just hold out a hand for donations. Again, I wish Mr McClelland well; my issue is with the status of these items.

Take a sympathizer who is able and willing to make a small donation and is considering going the extra mile to buy a signed photo of astronaut Irwin on the Moon carrying a portion of gold leaf taken to the Moon and back as a component of the LEM (lunar excursion module) also pictured. Supposing he does not see it as an investment to pass on at a profit, what might motivate him to acquire this item?

A chunk of metal or any other inanimate object in this context is totally useless. To the extent that its back-from-the-Moonness is entirely in the mind of the beholder, it is to all intents and purposes indistinguishable from a fake. Compare with a person who has been to Australia and back: you can tell the difference because they are more interesting – talkative and insightful – for having had the experience. In other words, the journey has a meaningful reality. The trouble with the Moon business is that even the humans came back no more communicative than the inanimate object, which is why the accusation of fakery is able to stick. Hence to buy such an item would be like buying into the inhuman silence surrounding this episode. So far, this is akin to drinking Corey’s koolaid in Corey’s mug: better perhaps donate cash after all.

This is before we come to the nature of the artifact: gold, and gold leaf to boot. One property of gold is its extreme malleability: one ounce of gold leaf will cover 300 square feet, so if you need to show off your wealth for purposes of wielding power, you can line a large palace and/or church with gold at very little expense. If this moon gold were 1 square inch in size, which it isn’t, it would weigh 1/43200nd of an ounce, literally worth the proverbial 2 cents. So you have a contradiction between infinitesimally above zero intrinsic value expressed in the language of wealth. This sort of wealth is the scarcity paradigm in action. Gold as a commodity is 3-dimensional; this fool’s gold is only 2-dimensional, meaning that this golden lunar module is just more glitter with little substance, only skimming the surface of the black budget. But the scarcity paradigm is precisely what we are seeking to reach beyond.

So we have a memento of something we want to forget, having zero intrinsic value, and zero sentimental value: where does this leave us? With a poor old whistle-blower who needs help. Part of that help is old-paradigm financial to be sure, but he needs something more – other – than that, call it spiritual support. The cruel truth is that at some stage, he too will need to close this part of his store. Meanwhile, better buy his chapters.