Is ufology confusing?

[mojo]

And no wonder???....Debate & demand of proof remains 60 years after Roswell... and words like sphere, orb, plasma, mulit-dimensional, abductee vs experiencer or both make it more confusing.

Here's a Merriam-Webster definition.

experiencer
noun ex·pe·ri·enc·er \-sə(r)\
plural
Definition of EXPERIENCER

: one that experiences <signs or symbols calling for one response or another on the part of the experiencer.

An internet search revealed a limited amount of information on the subject. Even the Merriam-Webster definition was not more in-depth.

Would this working definition fit the scope of experiencer?....
"A person that has ongoing encounters with ETs/UFOs that has not ben taken against their will."

or can an abductee also be an experiencer? Can experiencer also be positive or negative or both?

How confusing can it be???

This individual reveals a lack of understanding on the subject matter but gives a decent effort at explaining...
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A report from UFO Media Matters: On abductees vs Experiencers

http://ufomedia.blogspot.com/2010/11/ufos-abductee-vs-experiencer.html

Here's a few quotes from UFO Media Matters;


There are two camps in the UFO community diametrically opposed to each others opinion on the abduction phenomenon. No, it’s not a debate on whether it happened or not; it’s about what it means to the person being taken.


“Abductees” and “Experiencers”. The Abductees believe these beings are evil or don’t care. They point to the fact they have been taken multiple times without their permission, forced to undergo medical procedures, and possibly impregnated. They also point to the fact that children have also been reported being abducted. They resent the fact that others are saying “they,” the abductees, just can’t understand what is happening and that their captors are really helping them."


The most documented cases, from the leaders in the investigations of this phenomenon: Budd Hopkins, Dr John Mack and David Jacobs.

One of the better videos found on the subject was by John Mack...

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Dr. John E. Mack appears only briefly in this film, his death having occurred soon after production began. More substantial are visits to the New England countryside with experiencers, including one couple who videotaped an unidentified flying object hovering above a lake a few hours before they were abducted from their lakeside cottage. Also in this film, is the New York artist and alien encounter investigator Budd Hopkins.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWWKe-6HkVw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHy58wMgsrU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXVAIZdTbZc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Iecag5S-h8


It might be interesting to follow up with a list of the known experiencers and abductees like the popular one's vs the unknown one's. Even Bill Ryan would fit into a category, remember his experience on the mountain?

Where would these names fit? Where would you fit?
Billy Meier
Steven Greer
Budd Hopkins
Carlos Diaz
Italian Friendship case
James Gilliland
etc. etc...?

[ghostrider]

an open mind , and a willing spirit can lead you into the truth ye seek ... two groups , one group evil , one group on our side ... both with technology , and our government and their technology ... the sad truth is we all come from one stock originally , the evil ET's lost knowledge of their ancestry , a new one was created and just like us , history is clouded in disinformation ... our ancestors and the plejarens' ancestors are the same , they are old Lyrians who split in two groups , one went the way of the pleadies and one the way of Orion and other worlds ... the tree has many branches but the same root , just like trees slight differences yet still a tree ... human beings slight differences but still human beings ... Nature holds all the secrets ... some would say Ufology in some respects stands in the way of truth , if we know about our origins and our off world big brothers , there is no need for Ufology anymore and they know it ... I feel they do just enough to keep you coming back but not enough to allow you to branch out on your own ...

[mojo]

there is no need for Ufology anymore and they know it

I can understand that sentiment but even if the gov came forward and said they were here. There are those that would still be out there skywatching and hoping for the personal encounters. Do you think it would change some skeptics opinions of what we capture on film? Its strange, I can share what is filmed but there are some that say what Im filming instead of considering the first person point of view. Im wondering if that would change with disclosure?