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Citizen No2
12th August 2015, 20:21
Wow.

This is some report, well worth half an hour of your time.

The full video analysis from openminds.tv:

http://www.openminds.tv/leaked-ufo-video-captured-by-homeland-security-
analyzed/34616



The raw footage:

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Very interesting.

Show and tell?




Regards.

bogeyman
12th August 2015, 20:33
http://media.wix.com/ugd/299316_6118e74e2576471392c2dd6707e21fa7.pdf

The analysis of the film footage

Selkie
12th August 2015, 20:52
I really, really, really wish peeps would get and read Operation Trojan Horse by John Keel. Really.

Citizen No2
12th August 2015, 20:56
What was it Keel said.......... that the Trojan Horses' would be of ill intent?


Something like that?



Regards.

Selkie
12th August 2015, 21:21
What was it Keel said.......... that the Trojan Horses' would be of ill intent?


Something like that?



Regards.

He said that yes, most of the time they are of ill intent, but not always. He also said that they are liars, but that they also make stunningly accurate predictions...but not always. He said, basically, that they are tricksters, that they play both sides of the game, and so what they say and tell us cannot be trusted for a minute, ever.

lucidity
12th August 2015, 22:13
What was it Keel said.......... that the Trojan Horses' would be of ill intent?


Something like that?



Regards.

He said that yes, most of the time they are of ill intent, but not always. He also said that they are liars, but that they also make stunningly accurate predictions...but not always. He said, basically, that they are tricksters, that they play both sides of the game, and so what they say and tell us cannot be trusted for a minute, ever.

You get this same emphasis upon ET's as liars / tricksters from Karla Turner
(who wrote extensively on abductions)

There is a definite danger in assuming that just because an ET species is
more intelligent than us, that they will be somehow nice and benevolent.
We are more intelligent than chimpanzees and gorillas... we've driven both
species close to extinction. Greer is running around saying ET is the good
guy, humans are the bad guys, and we should open our arms and welcome
ET into our hearts. That be a recipe for 'lambs to the slaughter'

What if ETs are the archons ?

be happy :-)

lucidity

Selkie
12th August 2015, 22:21
What was it Keel said.......... that the Trojan Horses' would be of ill intent?


Something like that?



Regards.

He said that yes, most of the time they are of ill intent, but not always. He also said that they are liars, but that they also make stunningly accurate predictions...but not always. He said, basically, that they are tricksters, that they play both sides of the game, and so what they say and tell us cannot be trusted for a minute, ever.

You get this same emphasis upon ET's as liars / tricksters from Karla Turner
(who wrote extensively on abductions)

There is a definite danger in assuming that just because an ET species is
more intelligent than us, that they will be somehow nice and benevolent.
We are more intelligent than chimpanzees and gorillas... we've driven both
species close to extinction. Greer is running around saying ET is the good
guy, humans are the bad guys, and we should open our arms and welcome
ET into our hearts. That be a recipe for 'lambs to the slaughter'

What if ETs are the archons ?

be happy :-)

lucidity

(my emphasis)

Well, first, let me say that Keel says that these entities (which, according to him, are not entities---plural---at all, but multiple manifestations of one energy) are not extra-terrestrial at all, but ultra-terrestrial...denizens of the superspectrum, which lies outside the EM spectrum we are all familiar with.

That said, yes, lucidity...yes, yes, yes! That energy...in its entirety...would be the Archons. Every manifestation, whether for good or ill (by human standards) would be the Archons.

p.s. Keel says that they were here before us, and that they have always been here, hence his name for "them"...the Ultraterrestrials. That, by definition, makes them the Archons. And I would bet the farm that Keel never even heard of the Archons.

betoobig
12th August 2015, 23:32
Hey friends this pic last 3.54 min... long film, sounds like propaganda video: if it wouldīt want to be filmed it wouldnīt.
LOVE

Ī=[Post Update]=Ī

Thet wanted to be seen. Wacht out for eliteīs plan B

Selkie
12th August 2015, 23:37
Hey friends this pic last 3.54 min... long film, sounds like propaganda video: if it wouldīt want to be filmed it wouldnīt.
LOVE

Ī=[Post Update]=Ī

Thet wanted to be seen. Wacht out for eliteīs plan B

Whether that is or is not true, everything John Keel has written, and which I have related here about his writings concerning the Ultraterrestrials, stands. They have been photographed and seen on radar for decades now. One hoaxed video is irrelevant at this point.

p.s. According to John Keel, they allow us to see them, or not, depending upon their motives. That is why he refers to them as tricksters.

Selkie
12th August 2015, 23:40
Hey friends this pic last 3.54 min... long film, sounds like propaganda video: if it wouldīt want to be filmed it wouldnīt.
LOVE

Ī=[Post Update]=Ī

Thet wanted to be seen. Wacht out for eliteīs plan B

Btw, could you elucidate the elites' plan B for us, Juan?

betoobig
13th August 2015, 01:07
As far as understand fisrt plan or pla A was to kill as much of us as they could, leaving a remain of 500 million people ( as writen in stone)
Plan B, is a soft plan or ageenda which consist in, basically, letting humanity evolve, sharing high tech (transhumanims), "respect" mother earth and still keep a hook on us; evolving us therefore evolving they... I guess the pope is a great start to unite all religions in one... he is meeting Obama on the 23th of September, also a date for an anouced "wave X".... so they want to use humanity enslaved to weaponize us against whoever they feel as a threat ( they have objectives allready).
Plan C... exit the club.. as stayed as one more aspect of Cern, a getaway for black entities.
More or less thatīs how i get it; donīt want to know in which part of the billīs graphics i am right now, i hope i am helping, seriouslly.
LOVE

Selkie
13th August 2015, 01:21
As far as understand fisrt plan or pla A was to kill as much of us as they could, leaving a remain of 500 million people ( as writen in stone)
Plan B, is a soft plan or ageenda which consist in, basically, letting humanity evolve, sharing high tech (transhumanims), "respect" mother earth and still keep a hook on us; evolving us therefore evolving they... I guess the pope is a great start to unite all religions in one... he is meeting Obama on the 23th of September, also a date for an anouced "wave X".... so they want to use humanity enslaved to weaponize us against whoever they feel as a threat ( they have objectives allready).
Plan C... exit the club.. as stayed as one more aspect of Cern, a getaway for black entities.
More or less thatīs how i get it; donīt want to know in which part of the billīs graphics i am right now, i hope i am helping, seriouslly.
LOVE

Thank you, Juan :)

Well, then, seeing how that is a pretty gruesome set of alternatives, it might help everyone if we could figure out just what we are actually dealing with in the phenomenon of the "extra"terrestrials/ultraterrestrials. The work of John Keel goes a long, long way to solving very, very many of the paradoxes and inconsistencies that have plagued UFO research all these years, not to mention the mystery of the Archons. But don't take my word for it. Read Operation Trojan Horse for yourselves and draw your own conclusions. Most likely all anyone has to lose is an outmoded belief system that was likely given to us by the Archons/ETs/Ultraterrestrials themselves, for their own purposes.

Fellow Aspirant
13th August 2015, 04:05
"Well, first, let me say that Keel says that these entities (which, according to him, are not entities---plural---at all, but multiple manifestations of one energy) are not extra-terrestrial at all, but ultra-terrestrial...denizens of the superspectrum, which lies outside the EM spectrum we are all familiar with."

This explanation fits well with the brief time in the vid where the craft suddenly splits into two identical manifestations - like a twin pops into existence right beside the original, then pops back out again.

Great vid.

Brian

Sunny-side-up
13th August 2015, 09:54
What was it Keel said.......... that the Trojan Horses' would be of ill intent?


Something like that?



Regards.

He said that yes, most of the time they are of ill intent, but not always. He also said that they are liars, but that they also make stunningly accurate predictions...but not always. He said, basically, that they are tricksters, that they play both sides of the game, and so what they say and tell us cannot be trusted for a minute, ever.

So apart from the 'they also make stunningly accurate predictions' they are just like 'Politicians'! or is that 'Are Politicians' Doh O.O

Selkie
13th August 2015, 11:38
"Well, first, let me say that Keel says that these entities (which, according to him, are not entities---plural---at all, but multiple manifestations of one energy) are not extra-terrestrial at all, but ultra-terrestrial...denizens of the superspectrum, which lies outside the EM spectrum we are all familiar with."

This explanation fits well with the brief time in the vid where the craft suddenly splits into two identical manifestations - like a twin pops into existence right beside the original, then pops back out again.

Great vid.

Brian

Yes, that popping in and out of visual manifestation/splitting into 2 or more entities and similar manifestations have been attested to by witnesses again and again over the decades, and even in past centuries and ages. It is the same phenomenon as when witnesses see a "mother ship" discharging smaller "ships". In reality, there are no "ships"...there are only temporary transmogrifications of energy.

What Keel says is that this phenomenon does not inhabit out space/time or our EM spectrum. He says that it inhabits a different space/time and EM spectrum he calls the superspectrum, but it can enter our space/time through what he calls window areas...geographical areas of the earth with magnetic anomalies. He says that when the phenomenon enters our space/time it is invisible, but then as it steps down in vibration, it becomes visible as it enters the visible portion of our EM spectrum. All of this is well documented by centuries of sightings, and there is tons of evidence for this, which Keel goes into in the book.

These "things" have been f***ing with our minds for thousands and thousands of years. They have given us our belief systems....belief systems which serve their best good, not ours...and they do not have our best interests at heart. The phenomenon is reflective, and supports any idiotic belief we come up with.

I was very, very skeptical of all of this stuff for a long time. I was not a UFO "believer" at all because I did not "buy" the idea that they are ETs at all. I had read Our Haunted Planet by John Keel as well as his Mothman Prophesies, and I had read Invisible Residents by Ivan T Sanderson. But Operation Trojan Horse blew me away. It is objective and rational, based on evidence and years and years of hard work by John Keel, and it totally changed my mind about the UFO phenomenon. Just as I thought, they are not extraterrestrials. They are of this earth, but not of our EM spectrum or space/time.

p.s. Keel says that the reason that they can make such accurate predictions so often is that they are similar to a boy looking at a drop of pond water through a microscope. The drop of water is teeming with microorganisms that have no awareness of the boy. The timescale of the microbes is so different from that of the boy that a whole generation of the microbes can be born and die in one minute of the boy's time. The boy can also manipulate the reality of the microbes simply by inserting the point of a needle into the drop of water and moving it about. It is a living, breathing version of Flatland. The Ultraterrestrials are the boy, and we are the microbes. But I think we are a little smarter than the microbes, maybe.

p.s. In ages past, people thought they were angels and demons, and the phenomenon happily reflected that belief back to us when it manifested.

MorningFox
13th August 2015, 12:10
[QUOTE=Fellow Aspirant;988400]Keel says that the reason that they can make such accurate predictions so often is that they are similar to a boy looking at a drop of pond water through a microscope. The drop of water is teeming with microorganisms that have no awareness of the boy. The timescale of the microbes is so different from that of the boy that a whole generation of the microbes can be born and die in one minute of the boy's time. The boy can also manipulate the reality of the microbes simply by inserting the point of a needle into the drop of water and moving it about. It is a living, breathing version of Flatland. The Ultraterrestrials are the boy, and we are the microbes. But I think we are a little smarter than the microbes, maybe.




What a brilliant paragraph. Thanks for sharing :)

Citizen No2
13th August 2015, 12:36
All I know is, I am watching incredible footage of an object that 'we' are not familiar with.

Who's object?

For now, that is an un-aswerable question. Whether from 'out-there', or closer to home, the implications are just the same.


I agree, great passage.


Keel says that the reason that they can make such accurate predictions so often is that they are similar to a boy looking at a drop of pond water through a microscope. The drop of water is teeming with microorganisms that have no awareness of the boy. The timescale of the microbes is so different from that of the boy that a whole generation of the microbes can be born and die in one minute of the boy's time. The boy can also manipulate the reality of the microbes simply by inserting the point of a needle into the drop of water and moving it about. It is a living, breathing version of Flatland. The Ultraterrestrials are the boy, and we are the microbes. But I think we are a little smarter than the microbes, maybe.





Regards.

Selkie
13th August 2015, 12:43
All I know is, I am watching incredible footage of an object that 'we' are not familiar with.

Who's object?

For now, that is an un-aswerable question. Whether from 'out-there', or closer to home, the implications are just the same.


I agree, great passage.


Keel says that the reason that they can make such accurate predictions so often is that they are similar to a boy looking at a drop of pond water through a microscope. The drop of water is teeming with microorganisms that have no awareness of the boy. The timescale of the microbes is so different from that of the boy that a whole generation of the microbes can be born and die in one minute of the boy's time. The boy can also manipulate the reality of the microbes simply by inserting the point of a needle into the drop of water and moving it about. It is a living, breathing version of Flatland. The Ultraterrestrials are the boy, and we are the microbes. But I think we are a little smarter than the microbes, maybe.





Regards.

The footage in your OP reminds me of this,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY4PXqn4YeE

Citizen No2
13th August 2015, 12:53
I am sure that footage was proved as a hoax.

Sorry Selkie, am too lazy to look 'round the net!


Regards.

Selkie
13th August 2015, 12:57
I am sure that footage was proved as a hoax.

Sorry Selkie, am too lazy to look 'round the net!


Regards.

Was it? Damn, I hate hoaxers!

Selkie
13th August 2015, 13:06
What are your thoughts about the footage in the OP, Citizen No 2?

p.s. I don't intend my question in a challenging way, btw.

p.s. And yes, I agree, the implications are the same. What matters to me is that the entities, or whatever they are, play with us for some mysterious reason of their own, and I am tired of seeing them make playthings of the human race. They get to us through our belief systems, and if they are the same as the Archons, then we need to be very wary of everything they have to say.

Citizen No2
13th August 2015, 15:12
Selkie wrote:


What are your thoughts about the footage in the OP, Citizen No 2?


Well,

if you read the analysis document it shows without doubt that a physical object was present. It flies with no obvious propulsion, it morphs into different shapes and enters water with no apparent problems. The cameras that filmed the object, as well as traditional 'video', also had infra-red capabilities that capture the whole event in a different spectrum........... Providing a good range of data that can be scientifically studied.

It was a physical objet displaying the characterists that we see.


Anything other that that I am not sure. Whether ours, theirs', from far away or close by, I have no idea. If we stopped for just one second and thought about the amount of evidence that exists, not just relying on interviews of whistleblowers, it is vast.

This footage, to me, is yet another piece of evidence for the prosecution.


Regards.

Selkie
13th August 2015, 15:44
Selkie wrote:


What are your thoughts about the footage in the OP, Citizen No 2?


Well,

if you read the analysis document it shows without doubt that a physical object was present. It flies with no obvious propulsion, it morphs into different shapes and enters water with no apparent problems. The cameras that filmed the object, as well as traditional 'video', also had infra-red capabilities that capture the whole event in a different spectrum........... Providing a good range of data that can be scientifically studied.

It was a physical objet displaying the characterists that we see.


Anything other that that I am not sure. Whether ours, theirs', from far away or close by, I have no idea. If we stopped for just one second and thought about the amount of evidence that exists, not just relying on interviews of whistleblowers, it is vast.

This footage, to me, is yet another piece of evidence for the prosecution.


Regards.

Thank you so much for that wonderful reply, Citizen No 2.

The object on the film behaves in exactly the same way as Keel says the Ultraterrestrials behave. He says that they can and do exhibit the characteristics of real objects. Keel says that to do that, they seem to need atoms from our world, out of which they somehow create solid, though temporary, objects.

p.s. Btw, I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am only relating what Keel says in his book. But it all fits so well that it is amazing.

Citizen No2
13th August 2015, 15:59
You know what Selkie,

I would have to concur with that hypothesis too. It is as equally plausible.

We just have no way of confirming, either which way, what the truth is. So all we have, to agree on, is the footage.



Regards.

kirolak
14th August 2015, 11:13
http://media.wix.com/ugd/299316_6118e74e2576471392c2dd6707e21fa7.pdf

The analysis of the film footage

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