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Fredkc
25th November 2010, 14:38
For everyone who thinks international economics is beyond their noodle.


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Only way it could be explained better would require hand puppets, and a very big rock.

Fred

Agape
25th November 2010, 16:09
Nice one :haha: He could have been also shot at the end of the movie ..

( bad joke sorry )

Carmody
25th November 2010, 16:18
It's seemingly a game of fiat currency played like the 'story game' that kids in North America used to play on the bus, on the way to school. What they would do, is they would tell a story and then pass it on to the person behind them. Then the next person would tell the story and pass it on..until the story ends up back at the origin point, after going through 20 kids. By the time it arrives back to the source, it is hardly even recognizable.

In the case of Fiat currencies, you get too many people in the mix who have control of the story at a given point and shift it to their desires ---as it propagates outward after their machinations are enacted upon it (while it was in their possession). Never mind what ensues when the desire for machination was in the original issuance. The larger the number of hands on the fiat currency, like that of minds transferring the story (on the bus), the more convoluted the end point and the more likely the machinations remove any trace or possibility of finding responsibility and/or accountability.

One of the most important things of all to understand that in the use of fiat currencies to establish control or stabilize economies: those entities who issue the fiat currencies are always in control of the ensuing inflation and are actually massively benefited by the initial issuance of the currency (in the inflationary market) and the ensuing inflation.

The reason for that is that they are the original issuer of the currency and have managed to get the greatest return on their fake money, ie, well over 100% and as high as maybe 150% 'return of work/value' (depending on the subsequent level of inflation) on the issuance of this fiat currency in an inflationary market.

You should see, at that point, that the inflation of the market and the loss of value in the money all happens AFTER the given bank has made the issuance, which it received full value for. You may say, well it devalues all the other currency they have issued, yes. It does.

But others 'own' those fake fiat currency dollars (or whatever) not the bank. So as inflationary situations begin to step in and step up in such markets, the downward spiral benefits the banks, and the banks alone. Well.. it benefits those who trade the currency as well , as you can see in the exploding activity of stock markets in the midst of a currency devaluation.

To give you an idea, Porsche automobile sales are up 700% as of recent.

The disconnect in the mind is that people might think that the fiat currency bank is something more more than a control mechanism. It isn't --it is a tool, nothing more... that the owners of it.....don't really care what ultimately happens to it. They can just make another similar banking system in the mess that occurs in the given country - afterward. The given bank system in the given country at the given time is only a tool. A tool that will be used until it is useful no more.

Banks own and hold ASSETS, not dollars. Dollars, or monies, they can whip out of the air at any time they deem appropriate. Their only desire, or direction ....is in hard assets. (Ie, "I'll give you some fake money, for that house", the bank says.)

If that can get through (into) people's minds..... then they might begin realizing that it is the people behind (ownership of) the banks that you, as an individual trying to find the point where it is manipulated directly...that is the point you want to get mentally to...and keep your eyes on.

What is going on right now, is a war in the financial sector where countries are attempting to stop (or curtail/react against, etc) the use of the tools that the major banks use AFTER or underneath these currency issuances and market machinations/manipulations. The smaller players, like Spain, Italy, Ireland, etc..are all being whipped about by these groups as these countries are not on the inside of these games deep enough to prevent those deeper set financial tools being used against them. Ultimately the system is rather simple, but you are not supposed to know of the absolute details, as that would cause the game to be clear in everyone's heads.

Luke
25th November 2010, 16:19
Good one, though one thing need explaining.

There are no "economies"

There is THE economy. Single global entity.

It is artificially divided by mercantilist a**holes we call governments and corporations.

Instead of working as whole, healthy organism, we have parts attacked by different diseases .. they are not similar in manner, but are (on the long run) deadly.

Now the debt part.

Countries are, by law, considered as legal representatives of its subjects, ie. taxpayers. "National Debt" is amount of money taken with taxpayers income as a collateral.
The debt "money" is owned primarily to corporations (usually called banks). Debt is used to pay other corporations (called contractors) OR to placate taxpayers (entitlements, benefits) that keep them quiet (in developed countries 40-50% of people get their income from government or its agencies; explains "democracy", doesn't it?).

So national debt is claim on taxpayers income held by corporation.

So question about economies is faulty one.

Bailout is other taxpayers giving money to original taxpayers so the obligations purchased by corporation could be paid back. .. the problem of borrowing money one cannot pay back remains unanswered ...

There is of course free market way of resolving similar situation. It is called bankruptcy. It has slight problem though - the corporation that lent money foolishly will be then wiped out.

This brings the question of who installed the people who make "borrowing" decision .. and "bailout decision" ....

Short version: Corporations own governments who own people. Even corporations are owned though. Simple?

Harley
25th November 2010, 19:57
Yes! LOL!

Can someone lone me 5 bucks?

I promise I'll pay it back!

:)

Zook
26th November 2010, 13:01
Good morning Carmody, the Earth says hello!



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Excellent analysis!

In two words, money laundering. In more words ... thin air alchemy using printing ink and papyrus as alchemical emergents, e.g. to produce hard assets.

:typing:

Luke
26th November 2010, 15:20
Banks own and hold ASSETS, not dollars. Dollars, or monies, they can whip out of the air at any time they deem appropriate. Their only desire, or direction ....is in hard assets. (Ie, "I'll give you some fake money, for that house", the bank says.)
Exactly! Money is not important, the deeds traded for it are.

And those include countries, homes, all the stuff in "Intellectual Property" basket (from computer programs through books and works of art to genetical code).
Anything we agreed to call "property" really.*
As we see with our eyes, the scheme is to transfer ALL property into selected few hands.. .
The desired effect is that of serf: he does not own even himself.. he pays with his work for right to lease his space, tools, land,home .. you name it.
Watch closely, as soon there would be more things called property and made artificially scarce.

Just watch those poor souls trading their bodies and souls for coloured pieces of paper.

They have a problem though. Deeds and assets they crave are made by productive people. You need to con them into making all this stuff in exchange for inflating casino chips. This is where social engineering come to play.

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*: Meditate on this: Property is theft. Property is impossible. Property is freedom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Joseph_Proudhon). All those are true.