Ghost Plane Seen by Many Over English Countryside

[Fellow Aspirant]

More Witnesses to 'Ghost Plane' Over Derbyshire Come Forward

More people have come forward saying they too witnessed the flight of a mysterious plane travelling over Derbyshire.

The first reported sighting of the large prop-driven aeroplane was from Richard and Helen Jephson.

Richard, 52, and his wife, Helen, were out in their car in Rowsley at around 2.30pm on Monday, August 3 when they saw it.

Business advisor Richard said the plane, which he said looked like a Lancaster bomber, was so low that it looked like it was going to crash.

He said: "My car window was open and this plane was so low that you could touch it – but it was completely silent.

"We sort of braced ourselves for a crash but nothing happened."

Now other people have come forward to say that they also saw the plane as well – but in a different part of the county.

George Furnace lives at St Mary's Nursing Home, in Ednaston.

He spent three years in an RAF ground crew and said he saw it from his bedroom window.

The 88-year-old said: "I heard it coming before I saw it. It was deafeningly loud but seemingly nobody else saw or heard it. It was flying very low and I went to my window to see if it had crashed.

"I don't think it was a Lancaster, I know what they look like. I think it appeared to be more like a Liberator."

http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/witnesses-mystery-flight-come-forward/story-27574679-detail/story.html

[Selkie]

Thank you for this report. I witnessed something similar when I was in Spain, in 2014. A huge, dark-grey plane, like a C-130, with no markings, close to where I was, but completely silent. It was so low to the valley floor and flying at such a slow rate of speed that I thought it was going to crash, but it didn't.

[lucidity]

Hello Siblings,

This sounds surprisingly like evidence for holographic planes.
Planes never fly silently, right ?

John Lear has been telling us for this last 5 years or so that holographic planes
were used on 9/11.

It seems that there are many things that John Lear says that seem to be obvious
and absolute nonsense... until a few years later... when it turns out to be true.

I sense in my bones that this stuff about holographic planes will also turn out to be true.

Someone should really get out over there and beg another interview from John Lear.
And dig into all that stuff he was trying to tell Bill and Kerry about Anti-gravity.
What further nuggets of information might he reveal ?
Someone should ask him about this reptilian stuff.
Someone should ask him about positive and negative ETs.
If he doesn't know.. he'll just say.. I don't know.

John Lear has faith in the accounts given by Lou Baldin... what's the full story there ?
I hope Bill or Kerry read this... and consider the re-interview suggestion.

be happy :-)

lucidity

[Snoweagle]

It would be a great way to test the performance of holograms on "sheeple". And it appears to work:-)

Of course, discounting other undisclosed reasons or causes. We will have to wait and see.

[Ewan]

What about the other quoted witness who said it was 'deafeningly loud'? Or as the press kindly told us he was 88 and lived in a nursing home to sway opinion in the direction of dismissal?

A tower controller has come forward to explain that the description sounds like a Chinook helicopter so that's what it was. (Note: He never saw it, he just knows better than people who did because he's an expert).

And finally, apparently the last dambuster pilot recently died. So it was just him returning from his last mission. (Life).

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/04/last-surviving-dambusters-pilot-les-munro-dies-96

[Soul Safari]

Had a similar experience here in Essex this weekend. Ive seen plenty of aircraft over the years but this Plane was like nothing I recognize and was 100% straight out of WWII.

Somebody up there is having some fun with this!

[araucaria]

More Witnesses to 'Ghost Plane' Over Derbyshire Come Forward

More people have come forward saying they too witnessed the flight of a mysterious plane travelling over Derbyshire.

The first reported sighting of the large prop-driven aeroplane was from Richard and Helen Jephson.

Richard, 52, and his wife, Helen, were out in their car in Rowsley at around 2.30pm on Monday, August 3 when they saw it.

Business advisor Richard said the plane, which he said looked like a Lancaster bomber, was so low that it looked like it was going to crash.

He said: "My car window was open and this plane was so low that you could touch it – but it was completely silent.

"We sort of braced ourselves for a crash but nothing happened."

Now other people have come forward to say that they also saw the plane as well – but in a different part of the county.

George Furnace lives at St Mary's Nursing Home, in Ednaston.

He spent three years in an RAF ground crew and said he saw it from his bedroom window.

The 88-year-old said: "I heard it coming before I saw it. It was deafeningly loud but seemingly nobody else saw or heard it. It was flying very low and I went to my window to see if it had crashed.

"I don't think it was a Lancaster, I know what they look like. I think it appeared to be more like a Liberator."

http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/witnesses-mystery-flight-come-forward/story-27574679-detail/story.html

There seems to be a disagreement over the sound/soundlessness: George Furnace heard it before he saw it. We often get WWII planes over Normandy. Only last month we had one flew just over the house along the coast half a mile inland. We heard it but nothing like the noise that would make windows rattle. So maybe it would appear silent to someone expecting a huge racket. It looked like a Lancaster bomber and I remember thinking it was a bit late for the usual D-Day parade. So maybe this is another sighting of the phantom aircraft flying low, parallel to the coast half a mile inland over what would have been mostly farmland back in July 1944.

There is an alternative theory to the phantom craft: a time slip. I once read somewhere about a pilot who had a brush with a World War I biplane (a Sopwith Camel or the like), causing damage to its wing. Later an old plane of the same make was discovered in a barn under a pile of straw, with a damaged wing. This seems to show that you can slip back in time and have an effect on what happened back then: in other time travel, at least to the past.

Edit:
http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Ex-RAF-man-says-knows-phantom-plane/story-27580546-detail/story.html
This ex-RAF man says it was a helicopter. No way, in my case at least: we get plenty of those as well. This plane flew straight overhead, very very low, and slower than a helicopter

[Matthew]

A comment on one of the links, a person suggested why they think this is a normal plane. Date matches but I've not looked futher

from this link (Ex-RAF man says he knows what 'phantom plane' is) (http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Ex-RAF-man-says-knows-phantom-plane/story-27580546-detail/story.html)in the comments

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jedimasterlin | August 11 2015, 1:07PM

Found the post on BBC Radio Derby after 10 seconds of research. The text goes along the lines of: The Ghost Plane mystery is solved... we think! We've been asked not to say too much, but we understand a C-130 Hercules was practicing near Rowsley last Monday, ahead of a secret "event" due to take place soon. The RAF's confirmed a Hercules was flying in the area.

[Fellow Aspirant]

A comment on one of the links, a person suggested why they think this is a normal plane. Date matches but I've not looked futher

from this link (Ex-RAF man says he knows what 'phantom plane' is) (http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Ex-RAF-man-says-knows-phantom-plane/story-27580546-detail/story.html)in the comments

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jedimasterlin | August 11 2015, 1:07PM

Found the post on BBC Radio Derby after 10 seconds of research. The text goes along the lines of: The Ghost Plane mystery is solved... we think! We've been asked not to say too much, but we understand a C-130 Hercules was practicing near Rowsley last Monday, ahead of a secret "event" due to take place soon. The RAF's confirmed a Hercules was flying in the area.

This sounds a lot like the military's use of F-16s on this side of the Atlantic. They frquently claim that the anomalous object was a single or flight of F-16s that were in the area. I'm thinking Phoenix lights, Houston lights in the sky, etc.

B.

[william r sanford72]

the plane I saw and have written about a couple times along with the ufo...on Avalon...was one of the very reason I got online and found this forum.
it planted a seed..deep one..
thank you.

truth and balance.
William.

[DNA]

It's common knowledge in Sedona Arizona that UFO's sometimes masquerade as single engine planes except they are silent.
Also, it could be a holographic imprint on reality.

[Cardillac]

my really stupid question is (and it is incredibly stupid): what kind of mysterious plane would be flying powered by propellers nowadays and if/IF who/whatever wanted to camouflage an advanced technological aircraft wouldn't they be able to do that (like INVISIBILITY!!!) without camouflaging it as a propeller aircraft?

[Selkie]

my really stupid question is (and it is incredibly stupid): what kind of mysterious plane would be flying powered by propellers nowadays and if/IF who/whatever wanted to camouflage an advanced technological aircraft wouldn't they be able to do that (like INVISIBILITY!!!) without camouflaging it as a propeller aircraft?

That's not a stupid question. In fact, its a very good question. To me, it is possible evidence of the Ultraterrestrials, because those are the kinds of mind-games they play with humans.

[Desire]

It could be a hologram.There are scientists that think the "planes" that hit the twin towers were holograms.The world government may be experimenting with sound to
go along with the image.That might be why some have sound and some don't!

[Harley]

Excerpt from 'Ghost plane' in Derbyhsire 'almost touched the top of trees' (http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Ghost-plane-Derbyhsire-touched-trees/story-27587093-detail/story.html):


Peter Johnson and his wife Avis were travelling between Alkmonton and Longford some years ago when the giant plane, which they say looked like a Lancaster bomber flew low over the trees towards them.

"All of a sudden we were struck with disbelief as we approached a clump of trees on our left," Mr Johnson, of Oakwood, said.

"A World War II-type bomber appeared flying towards us, almost touching the top of the trees. A male crew member was sitting on the left of the cockpit and was grinning down at us. We thought it must be coming into land, but there was no landing strip in that area. It was most certainly not a helicopter."

The first thought that came to my mind was:

A Rift In Time (Temporal Rift (https://www.google.com/search?q=time+rift&oq=time+rift&aqs=chrome..69i57.5841j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8#q=rift+in+time)).

And the first question that came to my mind was:

What were they doing with The Large Hadron Collider (http://home.web.cern.ch/topics/large-hadron-collider) during the times of these sitings?

[Frenchy]

Probably bored techs playing with their Holographics !

[Fellow Aspirant]

Re: Harley's idea, "The first thought that came to my mind was:

A Rift In Time (Temporal Rift).

... here's a story about an aircraft's strange disappearance and reappearance that allows for the possibility of just such a thing. It got the attention of TPTB, then was "forgotten" ...


"About 40 years ago, a passenger plane is said to have vanished as it pulled in for landing at the National Airport (now known as the Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport).

Emergency crews were quickly called in, the assumption being that the plane had somehow gone off course and perhaps crashed near the airport. As emergency vehicles gathered on the runway where the plane was last seen, it reappeared overhead.

Ten minutes had passed, and the plane reappeared in the precise location it had vanished. The clocks on the plane, including passengers’ watches, were all 10 minutes behind. To the people on the plane, those 10 minutes had never passed. As they looked out on the runway while the plane made its descent, it seemed to them that a group of emergency vehicles appeared out of thin air.

This purported incident was investigated by Martin Caidin (1927–1997). Caidin was an aviation and aeronautics expert who was often consulted by NASA for his extensive knowledge of the space agency’s history. He was also a science fiction writer; one of his most famous works was “Cyborg,” which was later adapted for television as “The Six Million Dollar Man.”

Men in suits—not “men in black,” he said with a laugh, but men in suits—quickly filed onto the runway, boarded the plane, and took control of the situation.
Before his death, Caidin shared unpublished details of his investigation with parapsychology expert Loyd Auerbach. Auerbach told Epoch Times that men in suits—not “men in black,” he said with a laugh, but men in suits—quickly filed onto the runway, boarded the plane, and took control of the situation.

If this time slip really happened, what could be the explanation?

“This idea of time slips, it’s not really paranormal,” Auerbach said. “It would be on a physics level.”

“This idea of time slips, it’s not really paranormal.”

— Loyd Auerbach

“The whole concept seems to be that time is fluid. We actually don’t even know what time is. We know that time is relative to experience,” he said. For example, changes in velocity and gravity can affect time. Yet this happens under very unusual circumstances and time isn’t affected that much. It would still require much further explanation for a normal event like a plane landing to cause a change in time as significant as 10 minutes.

But physics has at least hinted to us that such explanations may exist, though we haven’t hit on them yet. Caidin had documented another, more subtle time slip, noted Auerbach. An atomic clock stationed on an island, Kwajalein Atoll, became inexplicably out of sync with other atomic clocks by a couple of seconds.

Auerbach has taught some courses on time at JFK University, and has particularly looked at the real possibilities for time travel and time slips. Some theories he has seen related to time slips include gravimetric issues and wormholes. But, he said, wormholes are thought to be microscopic—if they even exist, and we’re not sure yet that they do. So, theories about wormholes are far from explaining the disappearance of an airplane."

People all over the world have reported time slips, and the bizarre stories are often dismissed, Auerbach said. “Some of them could be true—and true in a way that is not weird, supernatural, paranormal at all, it’s just a fact of nature.”

- See more at: http://www.educatinghumanity.com/2015/08/plane-disappears-in-time-slip.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+EducatingHumanity+%28Educating+Humanity%29#sthash.BIXsVbjh.dpuf

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[Lost N Found]

Okay, I am seeing that most are seeing world war II ghost planes of which I have no doubl these things are flying around, Could be from other dimensions that are colliding with this dimension momentarily, don't know, I will give an experience I had not to long ago that spooked me totally and I did relate and even called other folks that were in the path of this mysterious phenomenon. I just happen to be on my back patio in June of this year here in Arizona when I heard this very loud sound of a jet engine revving up, sort of like you would here at an airport when the planes rev up just before taking off. I looked straight up and all of a sudden there was this plane that looked like a boing 707 or 727, one of those jet passenger airliners with the middle engine at tail falling right at me from the sky. When I saw it it was right above me and I could see it clearly the entire plane like I was standing on the runway and looking right at it. It fell right there and stopped and that is when I heard it revving its engines, It then moved off towards the west and kept going down. I watched it until I could not see it anymore and thought the damn thing was going to hit the ground at some point. Never happened but it sure did spook me to no end and to this day I can still picture that plane so clear.
So ghost planes or real do not know but I certainly saw what I did. Freaky stuff.

[Mare]

Interestingly there have been reports of a WWII bomber seen flying silently over Church Broughton in Derbyshire since the 1970's. RAF Church Broughton was used mainly by Australian aircrew during the war (training in Wellington Bombers) and is only 28 miles from Rowsley, the location of the most recent sighting. I remember being intrigued by tales of ghostly bombers as a boy so it's not a recent phenomena.

[sheme]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/18/spitfire-and-hurricane-flypast-marks-battle-of-britain-hardest-day.

[Shannon]

my really stupid question is (and it is incredibly stupid): what kind of mysterious plane would be flying powered by propellers nowadays and if/IF who/whatever wanted to camouflage an advanced technological aircraft wouldn't they be able to do that (like INVISIBILITY!!!) without camouflaging it as a propeller aircraft?

Nuh-uh, good question!

I just mentioned in a different thread that my husband and I heard the very loud sound of a helicopter flying directly above our home a few weeks ago, just the sound, no helicopter in sight though...