View Full Version : Have you ever heard of Moringa?
Michael Moewes
17th August 2015, 19:41
Hi, everybody.
I just came along this amazing plant and that actually made me think a lot and I decide to go on a mission, provide and help planting millions of this plants in less afortunated countries and regions. Check out this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9tdLn_Zk1M
https://youtu.be/L9tdLn_Zk1M
Live Healthy, Live Vegan:sun:
Lifebringer
17th August 2015, 20:12
We need to gather some seeds for "after." I've been saving Yuka seeds, because the roots are like potato.
idiit
17th August 2015, 21:01
How to Grow a Moringa Tree
http://www.wikihow.com/Grow-a-Moringa-Tree
ordered some moringa powder for smoothies. looks like some good stuff.
the trees are super easy to grow by the above linked article. you can get annual in almost any environment, perennial in tropical locations.
For edible landscaping, a Moringa tree is hard to beat. This versatile tree can be grown year round in any tropical climate, and successfully grown as an annual, in temperate zones.
http://www.wikihow.com/Grow-a-Moringa-Tree
Moringa can be grown as an annual or perennial plant. In the first year, all pods are edible. Later years also bear inedible bitter pods. Therefore, moringa is often commercially cultivated as an annual
M. oleifera can be cultivated for its leaves, pods, and/or its kernels for oil extraction and water purification
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moringa_oleifera
idiit
17th August 2015, 21:46
the good stuff is usually on the forums , so here are some links:
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/moringa-oleifera-anybody-tried-it.23406/
http://www.crohnsforum.com/showthread.php?t=43824
http://www.tfljournal.org/article.php?story=OpenForum
Therapeutic Uses.
Moringa has wide application for treating various forms of vascular and neurological disease. It has been recommended for:
~ vertigo ~ headache ~ tinnitus ~ inner ear disturbances including partial deafness
~ impairment of memory and ability to concentrate
~ diminished intellectual capacity and alertness as a result of insufficient circulation
~ anxiety, depression, neurological disorders ~ complications of stroke and skull injuries
~ diminished sight and hearing ability due to vascular insufficiency
~ intermittent claudication as a result of arterial obstruction
~ a sensitivity to cold and pallor in the toes due to peripheral circulatory insufficiency
~ Raynauds disease ~ cerebral vascular and nutritional insufficiency
~ hormonal and neural based disorders as well as angiopathic trophic disorders
~ arterial circulatory disturbances due to aging, diabetes and nicotine abuse
~ sclerosis of cerebral arteries with and without mental manifestations
~ arteriosclerotic angiopathy of lower limbs
~ diabetic tissue damage with danger of gangrene ~ chronic arterial obliteration
~ circulatory disorders of the skin, as well as ulcerations caused by ischaemia.
http://moringaleaves.blogspot.com/2008/08/moringa-sustains-cardio-vascular-system.html
^ partial list. up to 300 uses iirc
http://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/moringa-its-a-tree.563/
http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/tips/3078916-benefits-of-moringa
^ just a few links. google "moringa forum" and any specific additional filter like " diabetes moringa forum" for a topic more specific to your needs. tons of stuff available.
the posts are pretty impressive overall imo.
THANKS, MICHAEL. GREAT POST! :)
Elainie
17th August 2015, 21:49
Yes, I have used it as it is highly nutritious!
Bill Ryan
17th August 2015, 22:01
http://projectavalon.net/Mara_and_the_Moringa.jpg
My Moringa plant in Ecuador.... the only seed out of a packet of several dozen that sprouted. It's an inch high! And, so far, it's in very good shape. :sun:
Violet
17th August 2015, 22:25
I have some Moringa Olifeira supplements. When I travel, I don't take all my supplements along, I just take the moringa pills.
During my last trip, my intake was very irregular and when I came home I had problems with iron and zinc levels, and overall I did not feel that abruptly stopping my supplements for just moringa was such a good idea, as I really felt weak (I'm a vegetarian). I don't know how that would've been if I had been taken the pills more regularly.
They are still studying it to establish the recommended daily values.
Reading along with great interest.
ps: Bill, you should be very happy, I ordered some 1000 seeds of lavender and none of them sprouted. Not one.
Bubu
18th August 2015, 02:14
Moringa grows everywhere in the Philippines we just cut 2 feet of a branch and struck it in the ground during rainy season. There is a popular joke in the philippines that moringa can be recycled because it came out of you still a motinga. Nutririon is not about how much is in the plant but more so how much our body can absorb of it. during sunny days I gather moringa leaves and leave it under the sun until sun goes down. then I simply crush it with my palm or run it through a mill. Then I store it for future use. I hope this makes it more absorbable.
Its a popular herbal cure. My brother use to take seven different kinds of pills a day then started taking moringga apparently got curious on why I should gather lots of moringa on his garden. Then he reported to me that he is down to 5 pills a day and so on then started exercising now he is pill free.
Bubu
18th August 2015, 02:20
Before leaving for work he has a liter of water from boiled moringa everyday. Simple as that.
Fellow Aspirant
18th August 2015, 03:25
Sounds like a "miracle plant" alright.
A word of caution, however, is in order about planting non-indigenous plants.
As an example, take Japanese Knotweed. Read up a bit on this botanical nightmare , an import that is out of control in Britain, Canada and elsewhere. Here's an excerpt from a recent MacLean's article:
"Britain does indeed have it worst. A single stalk of knotweed found on a property, or even on a neighbour’s lot, devastates a house’s value and makes it near impossible to obtain a mortgage or insurance. It has led to financial ruin, depression, even a murder-suicide. A botched attempt to remove the weed may only drive it underground, where it can remain dormant for a decade or more. “Once the coast is clear, once you’ve built your nice, new conservatory, up it pops again,” notes a Sunday Times magazine cover story, “The plant that ate Britain.” The article continues: “The trick is to poison it slowly, subtly, so it won’t notice, like an Agatha Christie nun slipping drops of arsenic into the vicar’s nightly bowl of soup. The process can take up to five years.”
A knotweed plant arrived in England in 1850 and was added to the collection at the Royal Botanic Gardens at Kew on the fringes of London. It was a specimen from a plant, plucked by European adventurer Philipp von Siebold some years earlier, from the rugged slopes of a Japanese volcano and transported to Holland. It became a darling of U.K. gardeners and landscapers (and, later, those in Canada), who loved its tall, dense stands of bamboo-like stalks, its lush leaves, white flowers and ease of growth. Growing was never the problem. The slightest fragment of root or stalk dropped on disturbed ground will colonize. It advances as much as eight centimetres a day, and can reach five metres in height or more. It is hardy. Subsurface, its roots can extend three metres or more deep, and 20 m across, in a constant search for water and the tiniest cracks or seams in barriers blocking its quest for light. Just over a century and a half after the plant arrived in Kew, there is not a single 1,500-ha patch of ground in the entire U.K. that is not rooted with at least one Japanese knotweed, all perfect DNA clones of von Siebold’s disastrous legacy.
The U.K. government estimates that the cost of controlling knotweed has hit the equivalent of $3 billion. In just one epic example, organizers for London’s 2012 Olympic Games had to eliminate a knotweed infestation on a patch of east London land on the proposed site of the velodrome and aquatic centre. In some areas, rendering it safe required a three-year herbicide assault on the plants. Where construction schedules required a faster solution, the plants were rooted out by deep excavation and dosed with herbicide, then roots and stalks were screened from the dirt and incinerated. Knotweed-contaminated soil was then buried to a depth of five metres, after it was encased in a “proprietary knotweed root membrane.” A further two metres of clean fill was added on top, carefully sorted of sharp objects that might cause a tear and allow a knotweed shoot to arise from its sarcophagus. Vampires don’t merit that much respect. Total cost: the equivalent of about $130 million.
But it is Brits without deep pockets who have it worst. An estimated 220,000 homes are infested, fertile ground for a lucrative new branch of the legal industry. Reports abound of it ripping through foundations, infesting floor and wall cavities and poking out of baseboards and electrical sockets. A single stalk in a back garden killed a house sale for a woman called Mary, the Sunday Times reported. The culprit, a neighbouring care home, had to spend about $35,000 to remove the plant after it was threatened with a lawsuit. Mary eventually found a buyer, but at a substantial loss. Another homeowner, Sarah, was in a legal battle with a neighbour, who refused to remove the weed from her own garden. Because Sarah’s property was under siege, her lender was threatening to cancel her mortgage. Perhaps the saddest case, though one obviously clouded by mental illness, was triggered by the discovery (mistaken, it would later turn out) of knotweed in the garden of Kenneth McRae. “I believe I was not an evil man,” he wrote, “until the balance of my mind was disturbed by the fact that there is a patch of Japanese knotweed, which has been growing over our boundary fence on the Rowley Regis golf course.” The note was read at a coroner’s inquest after he battered his wife to death with a perfume bottle before killing himself.
Yikes.
B.
P.S. Love the pic of Mara the Dog. Looks like a real working and herding beauty, keeping watch over her Moringa flock. :heart:
Operator
18th August 2015, 03:33
Yes, I have about 6 or 7 small trees of it in my garden. Like Neem it is a kind of
'miracle' tree. It has many healthy aspects in almost every part.
Bubu
18th August 2015, 05:07
a more efficient way of growing moringa from cut branch is to first put it in a container with water until small roots appear. Then you can transfer it to wherever you want. In hot and dry places it helps to wrap the top 2 to 4 inches of the cut branch with plastic to prevent the branch from drying up.
Pasang
18th August 2015, 06:03
Yes, a very good plant!
I have Moringa tea at home.
Also have a look at Jiaogulan! That is a "miracle plant" as well.
http://www.herb.com/jgl.html
If you have a virus infection, or bacteria or inflamation, have a look at "Cistus incanus" aka "Hairy rockrose". That grows in my garden as well and doesn't take a lot of room.
https://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Cistus_incanus.htm
Funnily enough, I couldn't find an english website with any information about what this Cistus incanus is capable of! Only German websites with this helpful information....
idiit
18th August 2015, 20:00
I be thinking.......
ok, how would moringa do as an organic soil amendment for our veggie gardens and such.
remember that all organic amendments must be chelated by the miroherd before they are available to the plants for nutrient uptake.
found me an article that studied just that idea:
European Journal of Agriculture and Forestry Research
Vol.1, No.1, pp. 17-25, September 2013
Published by European Centre for Research Training and Development UK (www.ea-journals.org)
17
MORINGA (MORINGA OLEIFERA LAM.) LEAVES EFFECT ON SOIL PH AND GARDEN EGG (SOLANUM AETHIOPICUM L.) YIELD IN TWO NIGERIA AGRO-ECOLOGIES
Utietiang L. Undie1*, Michael A. Kekong2 & Tom O. Ojikpong3
1, 2, 3 Faculty of Agriculture, Cross River University of Technology, Obubra, Nigeria
Moringa.has been reported to possess wide adaptations and high nutrients composition in its biomass (Bosch, 2004). Our objective was to evaluate the efficacy of Moringa leaves for soil pH regulation, soil fertility maintenance and garden egg yield since these are more environmental friendly and affordable than chemical fertilizers.
CONCLUSION
The manurial and organic matter enrichment potentials of Moringa oleifera leaves and their positive effects on soil pH were found to be efficient in increasing soil pH and maintaining soil fertility for sustainable garden egg production. Application of these manure rates, especially, the higher rates increased soil pH level and significantly increased garden egg yield over the control. Moringa leaves can serve as alternative source of soil organic matter and Ca, or a replacement for inorganic fertilizers, with facilitating effect on soil pH and plant nutrients release for optimum production of garden egg.
http://www.eajournals.org/wp-content/uploads/Moringa-Moringa-Oleifera-Lam.-Leaves-Effect-on-Soil-Ph-and-Garden-Egg-Solanum-Aethiopicum-L.-Yield-in-Two-Nigeria-Agro-Ecologies.pdf
Erich
18th August 2015, 23:47
I have some Moringa Olifeira supplements. When I travel, I don't take all my supplements along, I just take the moringa pills.
During my last trip, my intake was very irregular and when I came home I had problems with iron and zinc levels, and overall I did not feel that abruptly stopping my supplements for just moringa was such a good idea, as I really felt weak (I'm a vegetarian). I don't know how that would've been if I had been taken the pills more regularly.
They are still studying it to establish the recommended daily values.
Reading along with great interest.
ps: Bill, you should be very happy, I ordered some 1000 seeds of lavender and none of them sprouted. Not one.
I think many companies falwify moringa supplements.
Sunny-side-up
17th February 2016, 17:00
Have you heard of this tree?
Moringa oleifera
Called a "miracle tree"
I got the below infomation from an email:
Moringa: Protect your heart health with this “miracle tree”
Have you heard the TRUTH about this health cover-up?
At this moment, a shocking cover-up involving big business and our health authorities is potentially risking the lives of over 12 million Britons.
Bottom line: you need to know the truth before this cover-up puts you or someone you love at serious risk.
Dear Daily Health Member,
Moringa oleifera — a fast-growing tree native to South Asia — has been used as part of Ayurvedic medicine for centuries and it is associated with the treatment and prevention of nearly 300 diseases.
Sometimes described as the "miracle tree," moringa has small, rounded leaves that are packed with an incredible amount of nutrition: protein, calcium, beta carotene, vitamin C, potassium... you name it, moringa's got it.
Since the moringa tree grows exceptionally fast, it is a great source for boosting nutrition in impoverished areas like Malawi, Senegal, and India. In these areas, moringa may be the most nutritious food locally available.
One of moringa's key benefits is its ability to reduce inflammation. This anti-inflammatory action is due to the fact that it is rich in powerful anti-inflammatory compounds like isothiocyanates, flavonoids, and phenolic acids.
Its potent anti-inflammatory action is the reason why moringa is traditionally used to treat stomach ulcers. The sweet tasting moringa oil, derived from pressing the leaves, pods and seeds (sometimes called Ben oil) has also been shown to protect the liver from chronic inflammation.
In 2012, the discovery that inflammation in artery walls is the real cause of heart disease led to many mainstream experts, like world-renowned heart surgeon Dr. Dwight Lundell, speaking out against the current measures used to prevent heart disease: such as prescribing side effect-ridden statin drugs to everyone that is over the age of 40 — even those with no heart disease risk factors.
The fact is, without inflammation present in the body, there is no way that cholesterol would accumulate in artery walls, causing heart disease and strokes. Without inflammation, cholesterol can move freely throughout the body as nature intended. It is inflammation that causes cholesterol to become trapped.
We've been saying for years: Cholesterol is not the villain it is made out to be and instead of lowering this essential compound in our bodies to ridiculously low levels, what we should be doing is fighting inflammation (without drugs) and maintaining a healthy balance between HDL and LDL cholesterol levels — both of these serve essential functions in our bodies.
In both instances, using moringa oil or incorporating the consumption of moringa leaves into your diet can benefit your heart health tremendously.
Apart from its potent anti-inflammatory properties, moringa has also been found to help maintain healthy cholesterol levels. In fact, in Thai traditional medicine moringa is used as a cardio-tonic.
Recent studies have demonstrated its benefits for those suffering with hereditary hypocholesterolaemia — extremely high cholesterol levels that can pose other health risks like the calcification of arteries.
In these studies, consuming moringa outperformed one of the most prescribed statin drugs, simvastatin, by bringing high cholesterol levels back to healthy levels and reducing atherosclerotic plaque formation (responsible for the calcification of arteries) by 50 and 86 per cent, respectively.
If you live in the UK or the US, getting your hands on a moringa tree can be tricky, and growing one in your back garden may not be a feasible option either. However, if you have access to a moringa tree, you can use the fresh leaves, similar in flavour to radish, in your meals. Toss them like a salad, blend them into smoothies, or steam them like spinach.
Another option is to use moringa powder (found at specialist alternative health food stores), either in supplement form or added to smoothies, soups, and other foods for extra nutrition. Moringa powder has a distinctive "green" flavour, so you may want to start out slowly when adding it to your meals.
Finally, organic, cold-pressed moringa oil (or Ben Oil), can also be used in salad dressings and topically to treat antifungal problems and arthritis... it is also an excellent skin moisturiser.
Moringa oil is expensive — about 15 times more than olive oil — but considering the heart health benefits you'll get from taking moringa it seems like a small price to pay.
Sauce: Daily Health eAlert
Wishing you the best of health,
Francois Lubbe
Editor
Hope this is of some use, Ill be looking into it.
TargeT
17th February 2016, 17:08
I have two in my yard, and 8 seeds on my desk as I type ;).
I've heard it used locally for anything from diabetes to blood pressure; or just used as a supplement.
Like all supplements I've taken, I noticed nothing from including (short term) this plant in my diet; but that's typical for me.
RunningDeer
17th February 2016, 17:20
Moringa (https://nuts.com/cookingbaking/powders/moringa-powder/organic.html) is part of a drink I make which includes a mixture of vegetable powders beet, carrot and kale (http://www.thesynergycompany.com).
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/pso-categoryall-v2_zpszkbokrnw.jpg
lucidity
17th February 2016, 18:04
I was wondering, can you juice Moringa?
... in the same way that you can juice carrots, beetroot, kale, celery, apples, etc
TargeT
17th February 2016, 18:11
I was wondering, can you juice Moringa?
... in the same way that you can juice carrots, beetroot, kale, celery, apples, etc
I juice the leaves.. it's slightly sweet on it's own (mine includes spinach and other greens, some ginger, lemon and a few grapes to taste... ;) ) The seeds I just swallow, though they could be ground up and added I'm sure (too hard to juice).
it's very tasty, but then, all veggie juices are IMO.
conk
17th February 2016, 18:57
We take a daily tablespoon of the powdered variety from a reputable company. Cannot testify to any great benefit, but trust that it is working as a preventative. Much has been written about it's nature & properties, no doubt worth taking.
Sunny-side-up
17th February 2016, 19:03
So all in all it looks like a good regular addition to the diet :)
TargeT
17th February 2016, 19:32
So all in all it looks like a good regular addition to the diet :)
I CAN say I certainly never had negative effects & I juiced strait from the leaves & ate a seed or three every day for a while (maybe stronger than powdered form?)
Constance
18th February 2016, 04:35
I have it every day, morning and night along with grated ginger. It just feels so right for me...
One of my closest friends has used it to boost her iron levels. She was bordering on being anaemic and now her iron levels have risen quite substantially.
It seems to have worked quite well for her. She juiced up a whole heap of the leaves one day and drank it all. She doesn't recommend drinking the whole lot at once though...was on the toilet quite a bit after ingesting it. LOL
nomadguy
18th February 2016, 07:51
Moringa or "drumstick tree" is an interesting tree that also adds nitrogen to the soil. Because it is a Legume is works in concert with microorganisms to release nitrogen in the soil. Also it is a food and a medicine, mostly it grows in subtropic to dry subtropic climates. The species is very popular in Permaculture circles that are in subtropic, and tropic climates.
-CdiUjJLzU4 :yo:
TargeT
18th February 2016, 13:08
Moringa or "drumstick tree" is an interesting tree ....Because it is a Legume
we have a MUCH worse legume here, locally it's called "tan-tan" it's a super high protein legume that's used as live stock feed, but can quickly grow out of control.. though it does add nitrogen to the soil also; so not ALL bad i suppose (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucaena).
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201203/r905970_9253022.jpg
Leucaena leucocephala has been considered for biomass production, as its reported yield of foliage corresponds to a dried mass of 2,000–20,000 kg/ha/year, and that of wood 30–40 m³/ha/year, with up to twice those amounts in favourable climates. It is also efficient in nitrogen fixation, at more than 500 kg/ha/year. It has a very fast growth rate, young trees reach a height of more than 20 ft in two to three years....
L. leucocephala is considered one of the 100 worst invasive species by the Invasive Species Specialist Group of the IUCN Species Survival Commission.
it's super high in protein but also mildly toxic to certain animals (in horses it causes all their long hair to start falling out), one of our rescue horses ate so much of it before he came to us that his entire mane and tail hair had fallen out, he had a reverse mohawk and a skinny little rat tail... haha we named him Tan-tan.
here he is artfully cropped and angled so you can't see his baldness... (haha)
https://www.facebook.com/cruzancowgirlshorserescue/photos/a.246357912189324.1073741828.245307715627677/486272838197829/?type=1&theater
I wish Moringa was as pervasive... at least then I'd have PLENTY of leaves to juice.
Either way, this is an important distinction, it is not a tree, it's a legume so you can grow it a lot differently (you can prune it into a nice thick bush if you want, as long as you keep up with it) it will produce a much higher yield of leafs as well for juicing.
Ewan
18th February 2016, 18:19
As my wife is Thai I figured she could get a source from family in Thailand, I didn't like the prices I was seeing for Moringa powder here in UK and never being sure of source.
In the meantime I thought the following blog was an interesting read, perhaps especially for women who might be wasting a small fortune on anti-wrinkle products, (like my wife!)
http://thaifoodandtravel.com/blog/moringa-marum/
PurpleLama
18th February 2016, 18:19
This stuff grows like a weed in my garden. I planted 4 seeds in 2012 and now it's everywhere.
Zillah
18th February 2016, 18:30
I swear by Moringa. I'm happy to report those who are in a climate zone of 3 (cold canadian praries) you can still successfully grow Moringa right in your garden. We manage to grow 50 or more in one season, yielding awesome sized mini-trees to harvest in the fall with multiple leaves for juicing/drying or whatever. I also use Moringa oil for my skin and it's fantastic; very healing, and it soaks right in without leaving your skin tacky. It's great for acne, sun burns, irritations or simply as a lovely moisturizer. We also drink this stuff in powder form and couple it with astragalus, camu camu, chaga, goji, magnesium, and bee pollen for an immune tonic. It's an incredible vitamin rich food. We also eat the seeds which are bitter as hell (much like eating apricot kernels). The seeds are fantastic for a deep cleanse. They can also made into a paste and used for purifying water ... couple this with zeolites and you're in business.
I can go on, but you get the idea!
amor
19th February 2016, 04:45
Wonderful information. Thank you all for sharing it with us. Maringa is often spoken of on a health and healing radio show overseas which I listened to. If there are any other green things like this we can grow, please also post the information here.
RunningDeer
19th February 2016, 14:15
Not all moringa oils are alike. Here’s why from GreenVirginProducts.com (http://greenvirginproducts.com/product-category/moringa/):
Many companies are selling fake or heavily diluted moringa oil. They will dilute the product with corn oil or some other very cheap oil so that they can sell it as moringa oil at an unsustainably low price. Don’t be fooled by that “incredible deal” you found online. Cheap moringa oil is never pure moringa oil. During a recent study of olive oils that purport to be extra virgin quality, it was found that 70% did not meet that high standard of purity required to advertise “Extra Virgin.” This same unfortunate situation applies to the many cheap, knock-off moringa or ben oils being sold on the internet today.
GreenVirginProducts.com (http://greenvirginproducts.com/product-category/moringa/)
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/moringa_zpszoziglzu.jpg
Sunny-side-up
19th February 2016, 15:40
I might have a small garden soon, this wonderful plant will be well plotted :)
Thanks all for your input.
love you all.
:sun:
nomadguy
20th February 2016, 06:09
Moringa or "drumstick tree" is an interesting tree ....Because it is a Legume
we have a MUCH worse legume here, locally it's called "tan-tan" it's a super high protein legume that's used as live stock feed, but can quickly grow out of control.. though it does add nitrogen to the soil also; so not ALL bad i suppose (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucaena).
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201203/r905970_9253022.jpg
Leucaena leucocephala has been considered for biomass production, as its reported yield of foliage corresponds to a dried mass of 2,000–20,000 kg/ha/year, and that of wood 30–40 m³/ha/year, with up to twice those amounts in favourable climates. It is also efficient in nitrogen fixation, at more than 500 kg/ha/year. It has a very fast growth rate, young trees reach a height of more than 20 ft in two to three years....
L. leucocephala is considered one of the 100 worst invasive species by the Invasive Species Specialist Group of the IUCN Species Survival Commission.
it's super high in protein but also mildly toxic to certain animals (in horses it causes all their long hair to start falling out), one of our rescue horses ate so much of it before he came to us that his entire mane and tail hair had fallen out, he had a reverse mohawk and a skinny little rat tail... haha we named him Tan-tan.
here he is artfully cropped and angled so you can't see his baldness... (haha)
https://www.facebook.com/cruzancowgirlshorserescue/photos/a.246357912189324.1073741828.245307715627677/486272838197829/?type=1&theater
I wish Moringa was as pervasive... at least then I'd have PLENTY of leaves to juice.
Either way, this is an important distinction, it is not a tree, it's a legume so you can grow it a lot differently (you can prune it into a nice thick bush if you want, as long as you keep up with it) it will produce a much higher yield of leafs as well for juicing.
As with many things discernment is always a good idea. In permaculture one does assess how often one might be able to maintain such species on a landscape. Which could very well be allowing livestock to munch it down. Note the cutting back or pruning and livestock munch down is how the nitrogen is released into the soil. As the leaves and branches are pruned those leave's and branch's supporting roots are also released, which in turn releases the nitrogen from the bacterial nodes on the roots. So using a design science approach as with permaculture makes the ever annoying problem of invasive shrub trees a benefit and as you chop them down this "speeding up succession" helps other more permanent species grow IE fruit trees for example.
Nikola Tesla
21st February 2016, 10:49
Hi Friends, I take moringa since 2011 and I feel great! Before I was often sick and my imune system was realy low. After Moringa helped someone in my famliy I take a better look on it. Read some books and explore the internet about this "miracle tree". What I find out blows me away and I change my whole live. I become part of the "moringa garden project" at Teneriffa , Canarian Island. Meanwhile we are about 1000 people involved and grow more then 5.000 000 moringas under ecological conditions. Last year we get the EU eco-certificate. Our moringa was measured with 109 000 ORAC (Oxygen radical absorbance capacity) which is very high!
Our official website:
www.moringagarden.eu/nature
My website for Croatia:
www.moringagarden.hr
Here you can see how we plant, grow, harvest and process our moringa: 15 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BLZgyV0ES8
We have also a free 180 page PDF book from Barbara Simonsohn in english, german or croatian, and if someone will read this, just drop me an email to info@moringagarden.hr
Sorry to make a little advertising for our business. :blushing:
With my best regards from Croatia,
Marijo
RunningDeer
21st February 2016, 14:24
Hi Friends, I take moringa since 2011 and I feel great! Before I was often sick and my imune system was realy low. After Moringa helped someone in my famliy I take a better look on it. Read some books and explore the internet about this "miracle tree". What I find out blows me away and I change my whole live. ...
With my best regards from Croatia,
Marijo
Informative video from start to finish, Marijo. New to me is red moringa shown @ 13:10 (https://youtu.be/6BLZgyV0ES8?t=13m10s) - ‘The mutation into red is a result of a high amount of canary island sun. It indicates an even higher content of polyphenols.”
6BLZgyV0ES8
Nikola Tesla
21st February 2016, 22:55
The RED moringa is uniqe in the world so far we know but the people from the botanic garden said that this "phenomen" happen often with new plants on the Canarian Islad. Interesting is that we see this changes yust on few fincas. Maybe they will change all within the next years. What we know is the moringas love the Calima sand storms from Sahara. In this few days they grow up to 50cm. We lern all the time something new about the moringas. For example, we have a test field over on Forteventura. The plants grow good, maybe 30cm in 3 weeks and then came a lot of bugs out of the soil and eat everything to the ground. We was disapointed and give up this finca. Few months later we receive a call from the finca owner. The moringas come back...:-) and we assume they "developted" some kind of protection, because they was no bugs anymore. Moringa is also god for other plants to. We have there an garden where we run some tests and give other plants moringa tee or extract and they grow fantastic. Now is a croatian company developing a ecological frutiliser with effective microorganisams and moringa extract. This is gona be a turbo buster for other plants.
RunningDeer
21st February 2016, 23:53
The RED moringa is uniqe in the world so far we know but the people from the botanic garden said that this "phenomen" happen often with new plants on the Canarian Islad. Interesting is that we see this changes yust on few fincas. Maybe they will change all within the next years. What we know is the moringas love the Calima sand storms from Sahara. In this few days they grow up to 50cm. We lern all the time something new about the moringas. For example, we have a test field over on Forteventura. The plants grow good, maybe 30cm in 3 weeks and then came a lot of bugs out of the soil and eat everything to the ground. We was disapointed and give up this finca. Few months later we receive a call from the finca owner. The moringas come back...:-) and we assume they "developted" some kind of protection, because they was no bugs anymore. Moringa is also god for other plants to. We have there an garden where we run some tests and give other plants moringa tee or extract and they grow fantastic. Now is a croatian company developing a ecological frutiliser with effective microorganisams and moringa extract. This is gona be a turbo buster for other plants.
Moringa is also good for other plants to. We have a garden where we run some tests and give other plants moringa tee or extract and they grow fantastic. Now is a croatian company developing a ecological frutiliser with effective microorganisams and moringa extract. This is gona be a turbo buster for other plants.
Fascinating and no chemicals. Definitely something to follow.:wave:
Hope Monsanto doesn't catch wind of it. (The eyes of everywhere.)
Nikola Tesla
22nd February 2016, 00:02
We have pure moringa oil, and its not cheep. But I dont need a lot. Few drops make the skin soft like a baby. Also helps with al sorts of skin problems or insects bites.
So much for being easy to grow. :(
Good sprout ratio of around 66% and quick growing up to 3-4", then appear to start withering. One left alive and don't know how to rescue it.
https://s32.postimg.org/sr16uqn6d/Dying_Moringa.jpg
StandingWave
3rd July 2016, 12:20
So much for being easy to grow. :(
Good sprout ratio of around 66% and quick growing up to 3-4", then appear to start withering. One left alive and don't know how to rescue it.
https://s32.postimg.org/sr16uqn6d/Dying_Moringa.jpg
That's my experience to a T, Ewan! My friend and I managed to get one into the ground as a fairly well established seedling and it seemed to do well enough for a while. Then one day it was wilting for no apparent reason. QWe live in the wet/dry sub-tropics.
I wonder if anyone on Avalon has actually grown any of the seeds to mature trees?
All parts of the tree are supposedly highly nutritious, perhaps there are insects or other creatures eating and destroying the roots...
I've read today they don't like their roots standing in water, so free draining soil is preferred.
Doesn't seem to apply in a pot of compost though, watered a liitle every day and after a week or two, if soil still looked damp, missed a day.
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