Scientists Create Human Brain

[Fellow Aspirant]

Well, here's a game changer, although it was just a matter of time. The creators claim that it's not conscious, of course, although the actual method and details of its capabilities are being kept under wraps 'for now'. The invention will be used for "military research".

I just felt a shiver go right down my back.

From The Guardian: (emphases mine)

"An almost fully-formed human brain has been grown in a lab for the first time, claim scientists from Ohio State University. The team behind the feat hope the brain could transform our understanding of neurological disease.

Though not conscious the miniature brain, which resembles that of a five-week-old foetus, could potentially be useful for scientists who want to study the progression of developmental diseases. It could also be used to test drugs for conditions such as Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s, since the regions they affect are in place during an early stage of brain development.

The brain, which is about the size of a pencil eraser, is engineered from adult human skin cells and is the most complete human brain model yet developed, claimed Rene Anand of Ohio State University, Columbus, who presented the work today at the Military Health System Research Symposium in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

Previous attempts at growing whole brains have at best achieved mini-organs that resemble those of nine-week-old foetuses, although these “cerebral organoids” were not complete and only contained certain aspects of the brain. “We have grown the entire brain from the get-go,” said Anand.

Anand and his colleagues claim to have reproduced 99% of the brain’s diverse cell types and genes. They say their brain also contains a spinal cord, signalling circuitry and even a retina.

The ethical concerns were non-existent, said Anand. “We don’t have any sensory stimuli entering the brain. This brain is not thinking in any way.”

Anand claims to have created the brain by converting adult skin cells into pluripotent cells: stem cells that can be programmed to become any tissue in the body. These were then grown in a specialised environment that persuaded the stem cells to grow into all the different components of the brain and central nervous system.

According to Anand, it takes about 12 weeks to create a brain that resembles the maturity of a five-week-old foetus. To go further would require a network of blood vessels that the team cannot yet produce. “We’d need an artificial heart to help the brain grow further in development,” said Anand.

Several researchers contacted by the Guardian said it was hard to judge the quality of the work without access to more data, which Anand is keeping under wraps due to a pending patent on the technique. Many were uncomfortable that the team had released information to the press without the science having gone through peer review.

Zameel Cader, a consultant neurologist at the John Radcliffe Hospital, Oxford, said that while the work sounds very exciting, it’s not yet possible to judge its impact. “When someone makes such an extraordinary claim as this, you have to be cautious until they are willing to reveal their data.”

If the team’s claims prove true, the technique could revolutionise personalised medicine. “If you have an inherited disease, for example, you could give us a sample of skin cells, we could make a brain and then ask what’s going on,” said Anand.

You could also test the effect of different environmental toxins on the growing brain, he added. “We can look at the expression of every gene in the human genome at every step of the development process and see how they change with different toxins. Maybe then we’ll be able to say ‘holy cow, this one isn’t good for you.’”

For now, the team say they are focusing on using the brain for military research, to understand the effect of post traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injuries."

Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

B.

[grannyfranny100]

Ugh, military use. Are they the only ones with enough money to pay for this kind of research?

[WhiteLove]

Beautiful mix of AI human brain, military and love. The way it should be. Not.

[Aviator]

A brain will never been conscious, even as an exact copy of a human brain. Consciousness comes from a different entity with a different quality.

[Ewan]

For now, the team say they are focusing on using the brain for military research, to understand the effect of post traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injuries."

B.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/healing-soldiers/blast-force.html

I'm aware NG is co-opted now, also that if there is any success in this they will go into more contentious issues.

[araucaria]

"The ethical concerns were non-existent, said Anand. “We don’t have any sensory stimuli entering the brain. This brain is not thinking in any way.”A very neat definition of the warmonger's brain, I'd say.

[Fellow Aspirant]

A brain will never been conscious, even as an exact copy of a human brain. Consciousness comes from a different entity with a different quality.


I agree that consciousness springs from more than biological tissue, but ... who's to say that someday it will not be possible to implant consciousness? There are whistleblowers already who make claims that consciousness is transferable from one entity to another. And "walk-ins", that is, spiritual entities that take control of a human body, would welcome the chance I would think, to start with a true 'tabula rosa', (a clean slate) in a biological host.

Namaste,

Brian

[Lifebringer]

They will program it to be compliant, docile and for service. They just aren't satisfied with robots, they want a thinking brain that can be programmed to follow orders. I've noticed the human/robot relationship movies and somewhere that intelligent conversation that has no ability to decieve, turns the pshycho on to the point they get aroused. Women had a movie like that in the 80's with John Malcovich in it. Interesting times and I can't help but think it's perfect sex on demand(no menopause, ED, headaches, menses cycle, risk of disease or committments. LOL Frankenscrew submission bio-babes.

What the heart wants, the mind finds a way to produce. :blushing:

[ghostrider]

The words of Enoch coming to pass, robotic cloned killing machines with AI , unleashed on humanity will gain independence, and the military will lose control of them... 888 days of hell on earth... Now they are one step closer ... Enoch foretold humans will be genetically mixed with animals to create killing machines with no conscience...

[Lifebringer]

Sensory as in no feeling? Pain? Emotion? Love, hate, joy? :confused: A blank slate waiting for script? Imagine the little stories of "his"story they could program in all over again? Wow. Annunaki redux? The "lu" to work off world mining? Are the immigrants demanding living human wages and upsetting the cheap slave prison wages (NAFTA) trade deal apple carts?
Wow.:(

[Lifebringer]

I have to look but there was a book of Solomon or something pertaining to the songs of solomon that was stricken by the catholic church in 13th or 14th century, before the then pope commissioned Leonardo DiVinci to do the face of the Savior Christ in "his son's image"(Don't they take a vow of chastity?) Anyway this son of the pope, now depicting Yeshua/Jesus in his image was a rapist of his sister(another child by Pope?)killed his brother(#3 child) and had sex with Leonardo DiVinci because this son was gay. I have to look in my favs from the other day to connect to the youtube page. I'll get back with some links as I'm still taking this in. We knew Yeshua was black, but to have the proof of what, who and when the deceit upon the world began, (worshipping of other God in Sheep's clothing/name/changed images in printed books of education and religion? Wow, I gotta find it. Lots to discuss here and this truth has led me to Pontious Pilot's letter to Caesar after the crucifiction, and he'll bring one out of the people.

[Lifebringer]

Ugh, military use. Are they the only ones with enough money to pay for this kind of research?

Don't you mean "we/gov" are the only ones that can afford it? We need full open disclosure on this. Our tax money, our progress in research as those private/public contracts are our nations, built by our research money and talent.

[Michi]

A brain will never been conscious, even as an exact copy of a human brain. Consciousness comes from a different entity with a different quality.


I agree that consciousness springs from more than biological tissue, but ... who's to say that someday it will not be possible to implant consciousness? There are whistleblowers already who make claims that consciousness is transferable from one entity to another. And "walk-ins", that is, spiritual entities that take control of a human body, would welcome the chance I would think, to start with a true 'tabula rosa', (a clean slate) in a biological host.

Namaste,

Brian

Biological hosts are inpractical as they are too fragile.
It's easier to drug and hypnotize existing people than to do the above complex procedure. (As the pharma and psychologists are doing.)
Reminds me also to the movie "Extant". But the movie "Extant" tries to depict a robot having emotions - but without a spiritual being, you won't find any.

Michael

[Snoweagle]

This biological organ that is produced is quite literally a "data repository" which is eminently programmable and will represent a significant increase in parallel processing. Cluster multiprocessing of data. Consider it up there with the super max computers, the Crays (Krays?) and such like.

The emergence of Quantum computers when matched with this type of biological memory, being a "natural" multi-tasking component, quite boggles the creative imagination. Clearly Quantum computer design has to make considerable progress before being coupled into a single autonomous device. That doesn't mean to say conventional processors will not be adapted in the time being. Though it is not hard to restrict the potential of this "product" when associated with the psycopaths currently working with it. Shame.

In terms of data storage available within this brain "product" we can consider the work at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH) in Zurich which has coincidentally announced the potential to store data in DNA molecules. It is most interesting that this development was in Switzerland in respect of data management especially as they are world leaders in that market.

From the article in the Independent, Robert Gass said of his work:
“We will show how we can use modern chemical and information engineering tools for the safeguarding of actual digital information in the form of DNA,” the researchers told the American Chemical Society meeting in Boston.

Dr Grass said that his team has converted 83 kilobytes of text from the medieval Swiss Federal Charter of 1291 and the Methods of Archimedes from the 10th Century into the digital code of DNA based on sequences of four chemical building blocks, the nucleotides A, C, T and G . . .

“On a hard drive, we use zeros and ones to represent data, and in DNA we have four nucleotides, A, C, T and G,” he said.

. . . an ounce (28 grams) of DNA could fit on a penny, store 300,000 terabytes of memory and palaeontologists have shown the information stored in DNA recovered from fossils can survive for up to a million years.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/single-dna-molecule-could-store-information-for-a-million-years-following-scientific-breakthrough-10459560.html

So all in all, the future of technology itself will be constrained to those who perpetrate "loathing" by their choice of developer. The tech world sucks arse big time.

[Snoweagle]

Ugh, military use. Are they the only ones with enough money to pay for this kind of research?

No they are not. The research into this technology is eminently doable on a small budget. Indeed progress would be slower without "heavy duty" processing and of course the technologists for the work. But the technology is constantly kept secret from the masses. Even here on Avalon, there are few posting from high tech worlds mainly because they can't. It's business advantage and in this sphere you keep your gob shut. Currently all high level research, virtually world wide is "closeted" by financial interests and "peer" management of participating developers. The days of Oversight and Disclosure are now challenged by Business advantage and Patentcy products. This is mankinds burgeoning threat.

By modulating this research, between small developers, there are feasible ways of particpating in this development but the project has to considered long term research and development. So will need continual development and the costs will grow, even escalate clearly dependent on the level of entry.

Related: Quite recently I posted about the poor education throughout the EU and the US, there is deliberate dumbing down of all host nations. In the case of of the US, Charoltte Iserbyt has written and broadcast on the web full disclosure of the manner it took place in recent American history since the second world war. In the EU pretty much the same though this was driven through the same process of "steerage" promoted from the influence of the Jesuit Judaic Freemasonry within each country.

These two links direct to site that "govern" what education paradigm each nation must specialise.
http://ec.europa.eu/regional_policy/index_en.cfm
http://www.eurada.org/index.php?opti...mid=71&lang=en

In this way, pockets of "excellence" can be isolated and live cherished lifetimes shielded from the uneducated populace. The irony, when these "smart allecks" develop something they need the rest of us to keep repairing it and tell them why it doesn't work.

[Ted]

"This brain is not thinking in any way.”
These brains are being reserved exclusively for the US congress.

[Violet]

How is self-awareness measured? (non-rhetorical)


http://news.vanderbilt.edu/files/brain-art.jpg (http://news.vanderbilt.edu/files/brain-art.jpg)

[Selkie]

"This brain is not thinking in any way.”
These brains are being reserved exclusively for the US congress.

As seat cushions, to be sure...

[i2prideaux]

It is rumored that there was a big meeting in the 50's ( I believe) between president Eisenhower and aliens. I'm betting fairly quickly the briefing afterwards turned from, "they've got faster ships than ours and bigger bombs ! " - to -- "Gentlemen the real problem is, we have very small brains compared to them. The brain that we have can make the atomic bomb, but the brains they have, can make the flying saucer and all the other amazing tricks we have heard of".

Very quickly a large amount of money would have been put into brain/intelligence engineering. As John Steinbeck said, “The final weapon is the brain, all else is supplemental.” ( He wrote the grapes of wrath).
So being controversial, but I'm probably not far off ---that, A. Scientists were encouraged to have as many children as possible B. Parties were organized where brainy female co-eds were supplied to scientific Xmas office parties, and tuition's were paid to co-eds if they could get pregnant from a scientist, and so on. Put cloning on the list and hybridization of our own. The alien uses it's brain as a weapon, forget the flying saucer gap or the death ray gap. It makes me think that there was a mad rush to increase brain size and complexity, at least in the upper echelon's. I suspect they pay the salaries of tens of thousands of very clever people, world wide. Probably forming a nice start up group with a one way ticket off the planet. ..... Mines probably been held up in the post. .... Loved the topic !

[DeDukshyn]

A brain will never been conscious, even as an exact copy of a human brain. Consciousness comes from a different entity with a different quality.

It might have potential for some sort of weak consciousness -- think pure ego, the exact same way as an AI consciousness would work. doesn't sound all that useful to me ... unless you want fighting drones ... I'd say hence the military interest.