Two men claim they found a lost Nazi ghost train carrying gold

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[Rollo]

The legend about the Nazi armored train stuffed with valuables for decades circulate in Lower Silesia, Poland. Perhaps now, the two men have found it.

Or at least that is what they persist in the letter, which through a law firm was sent to the district governor of Walbrzych. In the document they reported that they have found the train sought for decades - armored, measuring over 150 meters in length, as well as holding the positions of fire. And demand like it is stated in the Polish law the share for finding the treasure - 10%.

"Acting on behalf of our principals (...) we announce the finding by the associates (...) armored train from the Second World War" - we read in the letter, which was published on Daminfo.pl website. What is inside the train? The document states that it contains a "valuable objects, valuable industrial materials and precious ores".

The assistant of district governor of the city of Walbrzych confirmed that they received the letter from two treasure hunters, a Pole and a German. The governor already contacted the relevant services that are ready to protect the treasure.

Two gold trains
Historians and treasure hunters however are distancing themselves from the revelations about the discovery of the Second World War train and are not that enthusiastic. - We have information indicating existence of two different trains with gold - said on TVN24 Joanna Lamparska, author of books about the mysteries of Lower Silesia. - One has to be under a mountain near Piechowice and the other was near Walbrzych - she added.

- They could find a train, but it doesn't mean that they have also found the treasure - commented on Radio ZET Tadeusz Słowikowski, a famous treasure hunter, quoted by the British newspaper "The Telegraph".

The hardest part is yet to come
In her opinion, to speak about the historic discovery is still a long way to go. First, authorities must get to the train, then take care of the train and its content with the experts who will verify if it is really the Nazi train from the Second World War. If it turns out that it's actually famous train with precious cargo, it will need to be taken out with all what is inside. This will be gigantic logistical operation, generating huge costs. - And then just world fame - with a smile summed up Lamparska.

Owl Mountains. The mountainside Gontowa, tunnels, the remnants of the German construction complex Riese. Maciej Rozwadowski, PAP

Ghost train
History of surrounded by mystery train with gold dates back to the last days of World War II. When the Soviet army approached to Wroclaw, the Nazis decided about transporting any accumulated loot to a safer place. Official documents proving what the train was carrying were never found. According to historians and treasure hunters it is no coincidence - valuables were collected illegally and the Nazis did not want to leave any evidence relating directly to their precious cargo. It is said in one of the legends that "ghost train" had disappeared under mysterious circumstances somewhere in the vicinity of the mountains on the Polish-Czech border.

Source (http://polska.newsweek.pl/pociag-ze-zlotem-znaleziony-na-dolnym-slasku-,artykuly,368989,1.html)

[Cardillac]

if one has read the research/books of Joseph Farrell/Peter Levenda (among others) one must realize the Nazis were the masters of deception; if they left a trace/trail of their activities we can be sure they were diversions to distract us from their real activities; even if this gold is real we can be sure it is just a tiny fraction of what they really owned and this has been publicized to divert us from the scent of where their yet to be discovered wealth is-

Larry

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At this point the story turns bizarre, because the latest discovery - if it is indeed that - may not be genuine: according to the Mail, a group calling itself The Silesian Research Group insists that it in fact found the legendary train here over two years ago. The group claims the duo who made the news this week by filing the discovery claim with local authorities pilfered their information.



There is a second group of treasure hunters who claim to have found the train.
Andzrej Boczek, one of the members, showed MailOnline where he believes it to be hidden

One group member, who asked not to be identified after receiving threatening phone calls from a 'mysterious man,' told MailOnline: 'About two or three years ago we carried out extensive research of the area using geo-radar and magnetic readings. We came across an anomaly about 70 metres below the surface and further investigation revealed this was most likely a train.

'It is well-known that the Nazis built a network of railway lines under the mountains.

'And we know that in May 1945 gold and other valuables from the city of Wroclaw were being transported to Walbrzych when they disappeared between the towns of Lubiechow and Swiebodzice.'

Resting at the foot of the Sowa (Owl) mountains in woods three miles outside of the town of Walbrzeg in western Poland, is the alleged train, filled with gold, possibly diamonds and maybe even masterpieces stolen from Polish noble families and museums. Specifically, according to the researchers, the actual train is now resting somewhere under the surface of the hill shown in the photo below.



The "gold train" is said to be located under this hill

The researcher went on: 'During the war, there used to be an SS barracks here which was heavily guarded. And just behind the railway bridge was the entrance to the tunnel. We recorded our findings and marked the location on a map as well as storing the information on computer records."

Here the researcher's story becomes even more bizarre: "We were and are convinced that this is where the gold train is. But, soon after our discovery, the map and data for the area went missing. At first we thought it had been mislaid, but then we heard about the findings of these two people and we realised they must have got hold of our information."

He then added that he had been 'warned off' talking about the subject or investigating it further" adding that "last night I received a phone call from a mysterious man who warned me to stay away from the story and to not get involved.

"A lot of dangerous people are interested in finding this train, this could have been a warning from one of them. This man who called me knows that I know something."

Joanna Lamparska explains that there are two main theories about the gold train. "One is that is hidden under the mountain itself. The second is that it is somewhere around Wa?brzych. Until now, no-one has ever seen documents that confirm the existence of this train."

The story is given credence because under the local hills is a mammoth subterranean project called RIESE - German for giant - which was the construction of a honeycomb of tunnels, bunkers and underground stations begun in 1941.

Stretching from the gothic castle of Ksiaz overlooking the town of Walbrzeg they built the labyrinth deep into the surrounding mountains. The idea was to move supplies, factories and workers underground in the event of Allied bombing.



One of a series of tunnels the Nazis built in the mountain

Local explorer and treasure hunter Andrzej Boczek, who is also a member of the Silesian Research Group, guided MailOnline to the site where he says the train is buried. He said: 'We think it is here because first of all it is between the two places were we know it disappeared. And it is just 2.37km from Ksiaz castle which was the German headquarters during the war. That's where all treasures were taken.'

The 55-year-old, who has been searching the region for 25 years and has already found numerous artefacts, said: 'Also, this path used to be where the path ran down to the tunnel,' he says pointing at a dirt track leading towards the woods. "We don't know where the entrance is as we need permission to dig. But we have carried out tests and we know something is there. During the war this place was open to the public and then it suddenly was closed by the Germans, they clearly had a secret to hide. A man who lived nearby told me he used to see strange activity at night with trains rolling in and disappearing into the tunnel."

Two other locations identified by local media in Poland have since been rubbished by experts. One is close to the town of Walbrzych the other in the town of Walim, 17km away. Historian Mrs. Lamparska added: "These two areas are very well known and have been well-researched. The chances of the train being there are zero. It is likely that they found something, however, whether this is the gold train is a different matter."

But while the latest rumor that the legendary train has been found may end up being a red herring once again, people in the region have woken up their Indiana Jones and are rushing into the area: the news of the possible discovery has sent people from across Germany and Poland to the area with metal detectors. Germans piling on to trains the spoils of their carpetbagging in foreign lands towards the end of the war was not a rare occurrence. And the Reichsbank in Berlin, many of its buildings and vaults shattered by intense American and British air raids, used precious Deutsche Bahn rolling stock to hide treasure in regional towns, often in the cellars of fortified post offices.

The loot was destined for a number of purposes: getaway money for high-ranking war criminals, the basis for a German resistance movement called 'Werewolf' intended to fight the occupiers; and to become the pension funds for generals whose vast estates bequeathed to them by a grateful Fuhrer in the east which fell into the hands of new, unforgiving owners.

That is why the story of the 590-foot long train which steamed into the tunnel long ago has fired the imagination of many. But it also comes with many caveats, as expressed by Focus magazine in Germany, which asked: 'Is there really a train and is it mined?

Real or not, the story may be enough to provide an aspiring screenwriter enough ammo for the next Indiana Jones, or at least American, er European, Treasure sequel.

Finally, for those looking for real treasure, forget the Third Reich's plunder, which by 1945 had been mostly spent, but focus on trains and other vehicles operated by the Bank of International Settlements: the discovery of even one such train should be enough to keep a small country funded in perpetuity

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-22/where-long-lost-nazi-gold-train-located

[Fellow Aspirant]

Dateline, August 28

Poland’s deputy culture minister, Piotr Zuchowski, said ground-penetrating radar had found images of a buried train near Wałbrzych, in the country’s south-west, on a 4km stretch of railway near the Wrocław-Wałbrzych line.

Calling it an exceptional find, Zuchowski said the fact that the train appeared to be armoured indicated that it might be carrying valuable cargo. A deathbed confession from an unnamed man had led officials to the site, he added. Zuchowski said the dying man was involved in the operation to hide the train 70 years ago. “I am more than 99% certain that this train exists,” he told a press conference on Friday.

The German train, which may contain up to 300 tonnes of gold, jewels and weapons, as well as valuable art, has long been rumoured to have gone missing when the Nazis were fleeing Russia’s Red Army.

According to local legend, an armoured train packed with treasure from the then German city of Breslau (now Wrocław in Poland) was driven into a tunnel in a hillside near a medieval castle near Wałbrzych as the Red Army was approaching and the Allies were carrying out airstrikes in the final days of the war.

During the war, the Germans built a system of underground tunnels in the mountainous region of Wałbrzych and the city of Wrocław, from where the train is believed to have departed. The area was German territory at the time, but became part of Poland when the war ended. Treasure hunters have been searching for the train since the end of the war, as did the Polish army during the communist era, but it was never found.

Earlier this month, a Pole and a German, acting through lawyers, told local authorities they had found an armoured train with valuables in a disused tunnel and demanded a finder’s fee of 10%.

Zuchowski told reporters on Friday the lawyers had been informed the train was over 100 metres long. He said he was shown a blurred image from a ground-penetrating radar that showed the shape of a train platform and cannons. “We will be 100% sure only when we find the train,” he said. Wałbrzych regional authorities would conduct the search, using military explosives experts, in a procedure that would take weeks, he added.

“This is a find of world significance, on a par with discovering the Titanic,” Jarosław Chmielewski, the lawyer who has written to the parish council on the men’s behalf, told Radio Wrocław last month.

The announcement led to a crowd of fortune seekers descending on the area, the authorities said, forcing the authorities to warn enthusiasts searching for the train that it might be booby-trapped. “If the train does actually exist, there’s a significant chance it is mined,” council chairman Jacek Cichura told the Polish daily Gazeta Wyborcza. “It could also contain a large amount of methane gas.”

Previously, talk of Nazi treasure in Wałbrzych led to speculation that the long-lost Czarist Amber Room, of which treasure hunters have reported sightings in plenty of other locations, was to be found in the region, specifically in a tunnel leading to Wałbrzych castle. Despite searches, nothing has ever been found.


From The Guardian:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/28/nazi-gold-train-deathbed-confession-may-have-revealed-location

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Radar image 'almost certainly Nazi train'

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Short vid on link...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34093420

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A Polish official says ground-penetrating radar images have located a World
War Two German military train buried near the south-western city of Walbrzych.


Local legend says a Nazi train filled with gold, gems and guns went missing
near the city in 1945.

Treasure hunters hope the find may finally unravel the mystery.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34093420


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The Nazis’ Legendary ‘Gold Train’ Is Said to Have Been Found in Poland

By David Icke on 29th August 2015 Mysteries

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‘On 27 August, Polish Radio announced that two people have presented
evidence that they have discovered Nazi Germany’s legendary “Gold Train,”
containing art and that’s especially “laden with precious metals,” and that
the pair are demanding a 10% cut of its value, for finding this nearly
200-yard-long train, in a hidden mountain tunnel in the Polish town of
Walzbrych, formerly the German town of Waldenburg. Nazis had constructed
the tunnel in 1943, to hide valuables from Soviet forces, in the event that
Germany might lose the war.’

Read more: The Nazis’ Legendary ‘Gold Train’ Is Said to Have Been Found in Poland

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-nazis-legendary-gold-train-is-said-to-have-been-found-in-poland/5472403