The Expanding Earth, Expanding Consciousness Theory // Neal Adams - The Growing Earth

[Cidersomerset]

I have heard of the theory , but do not know much about it , so here we go .
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The Expanding Earth, Expanding Consciousness Theory

By David Icke on 20th August 2015 Planetary change, What is Reality?

The vid below Neal Adams - The Growing Earth ....Interviewed by Andrew Johnson , Avalon member.

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Expanding EarthGregg Prescott, In5D Guest
Waking Times

Many metaphysicians and scientists believe that our universe is expanding, so
based on the premise, ‘As above, so below’, is it within the realm of possibility that
Earth is expanding as well? If so, then is it possible that as the universe and Earth
expands, then so does our consciousness?

The awakening of consciousness reflects the premise of “As on the inside, so on the
outside”. Is there a correlation between these two premises or is it simply a
coincidence?

Neal Adams proposed an expanding earth theory in which the continents on this
planet have moved due to the increasing size of the Earth.

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Much of our recoded history has been tailored to keep us subservient and controlled
while deterring us from questioning the origins of mankind and traditional science
practices that are taught as “fact” in our educational systems.

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Several questions that abound from the expanding earth theory would include:
Where did all of the water come from?

If the Earth is expanding, then are our days getting longer?

Many people have pondered why there are exactly 365.25 days in a year. According
to Michael Tsarion’s research, the Earth originally had 360 days in a year, which
would correlate to a circle containing 360 degrees.

When the watery planet of Tiamat crashed into the Earth, it not only slowed down
the Earth’s rotation to create 365.25 days in a year but also deposited a large
amount of water on our planet, which may help to explain the Great Flood theories
of virtually every culture. This collision is also said to be responsible for the asteroid belt.

If the Earth still had 360 days, then our astrological charts would be different. It is
possible that over the course of time, the energies that you were born into would
be different right now, as these energies are reflected on astrological positions at
the moment of your birth. In other words, you may have incarnated to this planet
under a different energy with various retrograde planets and reflected obstacles to
overcome from these retrogrades. In either scenario, you agreed to come here and
to face whatever challenges that you agreed upon in your soul contract.

Let’s remove the possibility that the Earth was hit by Tiamat.

There is an awakening of consciousness on our planet that is occurring in
exponential proportions. As the Earth expands, is it possible that our consciousness
is reflecting not only the expansion of our planet, but the universe as well? Even
our physical bodies, in general, are growing larger and taller with each generation.
Are these changes also reflective of an expanding earth and universe?

While it remains undetermined whether there is a correlation between our
expanding consciousness and the expanding earth/universe, it remains a topic
highly worth considering.

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Published on 4 Jun 2015.....Interview by Andrew Johnson....

A better version of this video may appear on Neal's channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/nealadam...


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[Selkie]

About where all the water comes from, I wonder if this is a possibility?

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http://www.primarywaterinstitute.org/

(Another member clued me into this theory in another thread. I cannot remember who it was, or which thread it was :( )

There are also salt domes all over the world, which might explain why the oceans are salty,
http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/03mex/logs/sept23/media/braton_image1_600.jpg

Maybe salt water is not primary to the ocean at all. Maybe the earth creates fresh water from within herself, and then the fresh water is made salt by dissolving salt domes, also made by the from earth within herself.

I'm not sayin'...I'm just wondering.

[sandy]

Very Interesting>>>>>thank you for posting :)

[Cidersomerset]

These two vids explain the theory quite well....
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Published on 30 Jul 2013


There is a lot of supporting evidence that the earth, and all planets are growing.
The old theory of plate tectonics was partially true, that all the continents were
joined in the past. The but continents were joined together on a smaller planet,
not as one big island.

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[betoobig]

It definetly resonates with me. Earth is growing and that will suppport the increasing of Schuman resonance.
LOve... Evol

[Cidersomerset]

It definetly resonates with me. Earth is growing and that will suppport the increasing of Schuman resonance.
LOve... Evol

It does make sense , and is more thought out than I expected....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5vN9VKJinq0/UBwZmzMheBI/AAAAAAAAJGY/s7Pz8exLx4o/s800/expanding_earth_pangea_proof.gif

[Jake]

Not yet convinced, but I am definately willing to consider this. It makes sense!

I can't yet decide for myself the implications of an expanding Universe! Now, growing planets? The size of the planet effects its orbit around the sun,, etc...

Eac galaxy is speeding away from all of the others... from each galaxy, it may seem like the center of the Universe,, but the universe is expanding.. how? Like a balloon? If we blow more air into the balloon, each point on the surface of the balloon will move away from one another.. this would mean that the amount of Space is increasing.. ??? Someone pumping in more space? Lol...

The Universe (counsciousness) is expanding.. While consciousness expands, physicality Shrinks! :) Though, a -space pump- would work too,,, I guess... lol...

The universe is teaming with life! go team!

Jake

[Hervé]

Looks like someone is recycling an old gum unstuck from somewhere to chew on again...

See: Bad Science - Plate Tectonics (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71341-Bad-Science-Plate-Tectonics)

[betoobig]

http://mapdesign.icaci.org/map-examples/
When you grab a fabric from sides and stretcht it to limit you get this tipe of texture. If not how you explain the "stretcht markes" in the bottom of the ocean??
Love

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Sorry the photo is not showing, here is the link. http://mapdesign.icaci.org/map-examples/

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This one is better
http://www.codex99.com/cartography/images/berann/atlantic_lg.jpg
the link http://www.codex99.com/cartography/images/berann/atlantic_lg.jpg

[Hervé]

[...]
... the "stretch markes" in the bottom of the ocean??
[...]

Those seeming stretch marks are called "Transform faults (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transform_fault)."


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Transform_fault-1.svg/250px-Transform_fault-1.svg.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Transform_fault-1.svg)
Transform fault (the red lines)
(Blue arrows: relative motion)

[Delight]

Thanks.....Such a fascinating topic! I recently found an old thread from PA here that references James Maxlow

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?308-Earth-is-infact-expanding

One of the places I read a back and forth discussion was here. The thread starts off asking about the psychology of belief/disbelief "and the processes at play when faced with difficult questions in a social setting". It goes on to talk about the theory itself and is full on argument.

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/pseudoscience/expanding-earth-do-the-continents-wind-back-to-a-sphere-t8539.html

One of my questions is how does the earth grow?
Expanding Earth theory and mass accretion (http://www.xearththeory.com/expanding-earth-theory-mass-accretion/)

If there is evidence that the earth is expanding, the how seems to need separation from this evidence that it has in the past grown. We don't know how? Just because we don't know how, should we refuse to look at geologic evidence anyway? Is the geologic evidence THERE?

I don't know and maybe the next statetement is off topic BUT....

My simplistic mind says that IF the earth is alive, then it grows like anything living grows. As a living open system, energy is taken in and converted to mass. Like all living organisms take in energy and expand?


This hypothesis, known as the Gaia Hypothesis, states that the Earth is alive.

While perhaps agreeable to many an artistic or spiritual soul, the very statement of the hypothesis rankled some scientists. Still, two decades later, the Gaia Hypothesis is still with us.

Whether the Gaia Hypothesis will stand the test of time is uncertain. But its impact on how we think of our planet, how we view the processes that create our atmosphere and climate and oceans and even the mountains is unmistakable.
The Gaia Hypothesis (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/gaia/esp_gaia01.htm)

Perhaps fractally She is like a cell??

http://spectorlab.labsites.cshl.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2014/07/NucleusModel.jpg

http://www.drterrywillard.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Earth-as-a-cell.png


That is because all larger beings are actually symbiotic communities of eukaryotic & prokaryotic creatures that formed successful partnerships!
James Lovelock (https://myweb.rollins.edu/jsiry/James_Lovelock.html)


"There is an underlying force that drives together the several creatures comprising myxotricha, and then drives the assemblage into union with the termite. If we could understand this tendency, we could catch a glimpse of the process that brought single separate cells together for the construction of metazoans, culminating in the invention of roses, dolphins, and, of course, ourselves."

"It might turnout that the same tendency underlies the joining of organisms into communities, communities into ecosystems, and ecosystems into the biosphere. If this is in fact the drift of things, the way of the world, we may come to view immune reactions, genes for the chemical marking of self, and perhaps all reflexive responses of aggression and defense as secondary developments in evolution, necessary for the regulation and modulation of symbiosis, not designed to break into the process, only to keep it from getting out of hand."

p. 29.

"The bacteria are beginning to have the aspect of social animals; they should provide nice models for the study of interactions between forms of life at all levels. They live by collaboration, accommodation, exchange and barter. They and the fungi, probably with the help of a communication system laid on by the viruses, comprise the parenchyma of the soil. They live on each other. Sometimes they live inside each other; the Bdellovibrio penetrate the walls of the other bacteria, tuck themselves up inside, replicate, and burst out again as though they thought themselves phages. Some microbial communities extend so deeply into the affairs of higher forms of life as to seem like new kinds of tissue in plants and animals. The rhizobial bacteria that swarm over the root hairs of leguminous plants have the look of voracious, invasive pathogens, but the root nodules that they then construct, in collaboration with the plant cells, become the earth’s chief organ for nitrogen fixation."

DNA is only a piece of the puzzle!pp. 7-8.

"We live in a dancing matrix of viruses; they dart, rather like bees, from organism to organism, from plant to insect to mammal to me and back again, and into the sea, tugging along pieces of this genome, strings of genes from that, transplanting grafts of DNA, passing around heredity as though at a great party. They (viruses) may be a mechanism for keeping new, mutant forms of DNA, in the widest circulation among us."

"I have been trying to think of the earth as a single organism, but…I cannot think of it this way. It is too big, too complex, with too many working parts….it is most like a single cell."
p. 5.

"It is hard to feel affection for something as totally impersonal as the atmosphere, and yet there it is, as much a part and product of life as wine or bread. Taken all in all, this sky is a miraculous achievement. It works, and for what it is designed to accomplish it is as infallible as anything in nature."

"We should credit it for what it is: for sheer size and perfection of function, it is far and away the grandest product of collaboration in all of nature.";

"It breathes for us, and it does another thing for our pleasure. Each day, millions of meteorites fall against the outer limits of the membrane and are burned to nothing by the fiction. Without this shelter, our surface would ling since have become the pounded powder of the moon. Even though our receptors are not sensitive enough to hear it, there is comfort in knowing that the sound is there over head, like the random noise of rain on the roof at night"
Lewis Thomas (https://myweb.rollins.edu/jsiry/Lewis_Thomas.html)

Then my woowoo mind says...If she is like a cell, maybe after reaching a certain size, She will divide and multiply?

[betoobig]

@Herve: "Transform fault (the red lines)
(Blue arrows: relative motion)"
Something must be pulling in order to have motion, blue lines tell us so.
@Delight : AS above so below. I love your comparison. Gaia, as a cell, is now dividing thus we are in the new earth, a new born heavenearth.

Love...Evol

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@Hervé: COuld the gorwth of Gaia be the force that makes that pulls??

[Selkie]

Thanks.....Such a fascinating topic! I recently found an old thread from PA here that references James Maxlow

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?308-Earth-is-infact-expanding

One of the places I read a back and forth discussion was here. The thread starts off asking about the psychology of belief/disbelief "and the processes at play when faced with difficult questions in a social setting". It goes on to talk about the theory itself and is full on argument.

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/pseudoscience/expanding-earth-do-the-continents-wind-back-to-a-sphere-t8539.html

One of my questions is how does the earth grow?
Expanding Earth theory and mass accretion (http://www.xearththeory.com/expanding-earth-theory-mass-accretion/)

If there is evidence that the earth is expanding, the how seems to need separation from this evidence that it has in the past grown. We don't not know how?

My simplistic mind says that IF the earth is alive, then it grows like anything living grows. As a living open system, energy is taken in and converted to mass. Like all living organisms take in energy and expand?


This hypothesis, known as the Gaia Hypothesis, states that the Earth is alive.

While perhaps agreeable to many an artistic or spiritual soul, the very statement of the hypothesis rankled some scientists. Still, two decades later, the Gaia Hypothesis is still with us.

Whether the Gaia Hypothesis will stand the test of time is uncertain. But its impact on how we think of our planet, how we view the processes that create our atmosphere and climate and oceans and even the mountains is unmistakable.
The Gaia Hypothesis (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/gaia/esp_gaia01.htm)

Perhaps fractally She is like a cell??

http://spectorlab.labsites.cshl.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2014/07/NucleusModel.jpg

http://www.drterrywillard.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Earth-as-a-cell.png


That is because all larger beings are actually symbiotic communities of eukaryotic & prokaryotic creatures that formed successful partnerships!
James Lovelock (https://myweb.rollins.edu/jsiry/James_Lovelock.html)


"There is an underlying force that drives together the several creatures comprising myxotricha, and then drives the assemblage into union with the termite. If we could understand this tendency, we could catch a glimpse of the process that brought single separate cells together for the construction of metazoans, culminating in the invention of roses, dolphins, and, of course, ourselves."

"It might turnout that the same tendency underlies the joining of organisms into communities, communities into ecosystems, and ecosystems into the biosphere. If this is in fact the drift of things, the way of the world, we may come to view immune reactions, genes for the chemical marking of self, and perhaps all reflexive responses of aggression and defense as secondary developments in evolution, necessary for the regulation and modulation of symbiosis, not designed to break into the process, only to keep it from getting out of hand."

p. 29.

"The bacteria are beginning to have the aspect of social animals; they should provide nice models for the study of interactions between forms of life at all levels. They live by collaboration, accommodation, exchange and barter. They and the fungi, probably with the help of a communication system laid on by the viruses, comprise the parenchyma of the soil. They live on each other. Sometimes they live inside each other; the Bdellovibrio penetrate the walls of the other bacteria, tuck themselves up inside, replicate, and burst out again as though they thought themselves phages. Some microbial communities extend so deeply into the affairs of higher forms of life as to seem like new kinds of tissue in plants and animals. The rhizobial bacteria that swarm over the root hairs of leguminous plants have the look of voracious, invasive pathogens, but the root nodules that they then construct, in collaboration with the plant cells, become the earth’s chief organ for nitrogen fixation."

DNA is only a piece of the puzzle!pp. 7-8.

"We live in a dancing matrix of viruses; they dart, rather like bees, from organism to organism, from plant to insect to mammal to me and back again, and into the sea, tugging along pieces of this genome, strings of genes from that, transplanting grafts of DNA, passing around heredity as though at a great party. They (viruses) may be a mechanism for keeping new, mutant forms of DNA, in the widest circulation among us."

"I have been trying to think of the earth as a single organism, but…I cannot think of it this way. It is too big, too complex, with too many working parts….it is most like a single cell."
p. 5.

"It is hard to feel affection for something as totally impersonal as the atmosphere, and yet there it is, as much a part and product of life as wine or bread. Taken all in all, this sky is a miraculous achievement. It works, and for what it is designed to accomplish it is as infallible as anything in nature."

"We should credit it for what it is: for sheer size and perfection of function, it is far and away the grandest product of collaboration in all of nature.";

"It breathes for us, and it does another thing for our pleasure. Each day, millions of meteorites fall against the outer limits of the membrane and are burned to nothing by the fiction. Without this shelter, our surface would ling since have become the pounded powder of the moon. Even though our receptors are not sensitive enough to hear it, there is comfort in knowing that the sound is there over head, like the random noise of rain on the roof at night"
Lewis Thomas (https://myweb.rollins.edu/jsiry/Lewis_Thomas.html)

Then my woowoo mind says...If she is like a cell, maybe after reaching a certain size, She will divide and multiply?

Delight, awhile back, maybe in December of 2014, and article came out that said that the earth now has two north poles and two south poles, due to the weakening of the earth's magnetic field.

http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2014/06/june_2014_magnetic_field/14582208-1-eng-GB/June_2014_magnetic_field_node_full_image_2.jpg

I was in Spain, and there was a little get together happening, and we started discussing this news, which had just come out. And I said that what if the earth was getting ready to divide, like a cell?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR0mdDJMHIQ

Just thought you'd like to know :)

[Hervé]

@Herve: "Transform fault (the red lines)
(Blue arrows: relative motion)"
Something must be pulling in order to have motion, blue lines tell us so.
[...]
@Hervé: COuld the gorwth of Gaia be the force that makes that pulls??

Bad Science - Plate Tectonics (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71341-Bad-Science-Plate-Tectonics) <--- read!

[Delight]

Delight, awhile back, maybe in December of 2014, and article came out that said that the earth now has two north poles and two south poles, due to the weakening of the earth's magnetic field.

http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2014/06/june_2014_magnetic_field/14582208-1-eng-GB/June_2014_magnetic_field_node_full_image_2.jpg

I was in Spain, and there was a little get together happening, and we started discussing this news, which had just come out. And I said that what if the earth was getting ready to divide, like a cell?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR0mdDJMHIQ

Just thought you'd like to know :)

Thanks. I cannot find the source of the "earth now has two north poles and two south poles" but that is interesting!

I enjoyed this little presentation here

Planet Earth Compared To A Cell (https://prezi.com/e-0ksgjw-fzq/planet-earth-compared-to-a-cell/)

[Selkie]

@ Delight,

I found the image on this site,

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2014/06/19/earth-s-magnetic-field-showing-signs-of-significant-weakening/

[Cidersomerset]

A couple of interviews that go together......
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James Maxlow - The Expanding Earth
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Published on 21 Dec 2014


World-renowned geologist James Maxlow discusses the theory of Expansion Tectonics. In a
startling challenge to conventional geology, Expansion Tectonics suggests that the Earth has
not always been the same size. Hundreds of millions of years ago, it may have been much,
much smaller, with vast implications for the past, present and future of life on this planet.
A single super-continent called Pangaea dominated Earth 300 million years ago. But whereas
Plate Tectonics states that it existed surrounded by a huge super-ocean, Expansion Tectonics
suggests that it covered the entire planetary surface. As the planet expanded – about 100
million years ago - so the spaces currently occupied by the great oceans opened up.

Expansion Tectonics offers a radical overhaul of many accepted ideas about the Earth. It can
help explain patterns of evolution, how life spread across the planet, catastrophic mass
extinctions, and mysteries such as how and when Antarctica could once have been lush, green
and free from ice. The theory therefore has relevance to Earth changes that we are witnessing
today. It also poses many fascinating questions: if the planet is expanding, where does the
additional matter come from? What, if anything, can it tell us about the origins of the Earth?
Is expansion occurring on other planets, in other galaxies or even throughout the entire Universe?

With or without Expansion Tectonics, the Earth does continue to expand, although the rate
– just a few centimeters per year - is stretched across such a vast timescale that it has barely
registered since human beings first evolved. However, should it continue, life on Earth will once
again be profoundly transformed during the next few million years.

http://www.jamesmaxlow.com/main/
http://www.expansiontectonics.com/ind...

Many more interviews at http://www.legalise-freedom.com




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Stephen Hurrell - Dinosaurs and the Expanding Earth

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Published on 30 Dec 2014


Stephen Hurrell discusses his book Dinosaurs and the Expanding Earth. When Dinosaurs and
the Expanding Earth was first published it proposed a startling idea to explain the long-standing
puzzle of the dinosaurs' vast size. Some paleontologists have suggested that many dinosaurs’
bones were simply not strong enough to support their enormous weight. Hurrell, however,
presented scientific evidence that dinosaurs lived in reduced gravity and this allowed them to
grow to gigantic proportions. The Reduced Gravity Earth theory explains why life - including
dinosaurs, plants and insects - evolved towards a larger scale on the ancient Earth. It is also
a key piece of evidence that provides additional support for an Expanding Earth, something a
number of leading geologists have been suggesting for decades. Expanding Earth theory
postulates that hundreds of millions of years ago, our planet was much, much smaller, gradually
growing over time as it accrued material from elsewhere in the solar system.

For reasons still debated, the dinosaurs, and indeed many other ancient forms of life, did not
survive the Earth changes that beset them. If such changes are in fact not in the distant past
but actually still underway, what could this mean for the future of life on Earth? As changing
gravity and Expanding Earth claim to answer some of the most vexing questions about life on
this planet, what might it suggest about life elsewhere in the solar system, the galaxy and the
entire Universe?

http://www.dinox.org/

Many more interviews at http://www.legalise-freedom.com

[Cidersomerset]

James Maxlow - Expanding Earth 2005 Presentation

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Published on 24 May 2012


See www.jamesmaxlow.com

[Cidersomerset]

This presentation is by Andrew Johnson who is an Avalon member

The Earth could be hollow
The Earth could be expanding
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The Earth But Not As We Know It

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Published on 17 Jun 2012
In this 2-part presentation we will be looking at the evidence which lead some to think that

The Earth could be hollow
The Earth could be expanding

(UPDATE 2014/2015: Please see the articles on my website, which may possibly
answer the "mass increase" question (i.e. the mass has not increased much).
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms... and
www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php­?
option=com_content&task=view&id­=409&Itemid=59)

Is there a relationship between these 2 theories? As usual, there seems to be good
information and bad, but with careful study, we can establish certain things as
being true or not true.

We will look at

An impressive video showing Hollow Earth ideas
History of Hollow Earth thinking and ideas.
The tale of Olaf Jansen -- a Swedish man who claimed to have visited the Inner
Earth with his father in 1830.
Apparent pictures of Holes at the North pole
Admiral Byrd's trips to the Poles and Operation High Jump
Michael Palin's trip to the South Pole in 1991 ("Pole to Pole")
Ideas about Seismology and Aurora which some have claimed show the earth could
to hollow
Brooks Agnew and the North Pole Inner Earth Expedition
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In the second half, we will look at the evidence that the earth is expanding.
A short look at the history of some thoughts on this -- as well as mentioning
Continental Drift and Plate Tectonics
A look at a short video by Neal Adams -- which many people have seen.
Research of Prof S Warren Carey as he realised the earth was expanding
Comprehensive research of James Maxlow
Discussion of Subduction
Stephen Hurrell's research regarding the large size of Dinosaurs and other life -
which suggests that the force of gravity was much reduced 150 million years ago.

"The Smoky God" - Olaf Jansen's Story
http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/T...

More details here: http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms...

[betoobig]

@Hervé
"Plate tectonics theory (tectonics being the science of crustal structure) has been severely challenged by many geologists who point out its many inconsistencies, implausibilities, and predictive failures (see Plate Tectonics: a Paradigm Under Threat, David Pratt, J. Sctfc. Expltn. 14: 307-52, 2000 (davidpratt.info and scientificexploration.org); Problems with Plate Tectonics: Reply, David Pratt, New Concepts in Global Tectonics Newsletter, pp. 10-24, 2001)."

So we are all theorizing here, not good nor bad.

Love...Evol

[Hervé]

@Hervé
[...]
So we are all theorizing here...
[...]

Not quite:

One can always knit-pick about this or that because of this or that... it remains that there IS a Pacific Rim of Fire which coincide with a Pacific Ring of subduction zones... as well as very active Mid-Ocean Ridges.

... and the relative motion of continents (http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/sage/geology/lesson2/concepts.html) with respect to each other first verified via laser beams (http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4615-7109-4_12) and now corroborated with quasar-calibrated GPS positioning is kind of difficult to dismiss.

In short, that continents do move with respect to each other along directions concordant with Mid Oceanic Ridges vectors is no theory! Just factual :)

[Cidersomerset]

This interview is an extension of Andrews research into the subject
of the Expanding Earth Theory.It was done in between the two
vid links below, so is out of order but it does not matter that much
just pointing it out.

Neal adams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZC22-IU7qI

The Earth But Not As We Know It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjOar3QGzNM

The Earth could be expanding

In the second half, we will look at the evidence that the earth is expanding.
A short look at the history of some thoughts on this -- as well as mentioning
Continental Drift and Plate Tectonics
A look at a short video by Neal Adams -- which many people have seen.
Research of Prof S Warren Carey as he realised the earth was expanding
Comprehensive research of James Maxlow
Discussion of Subduction
Stephen Hurrell's research regarding the large size of Dinosaurs and other life -
which suggests that the force of gravity was much reduced 150 million years ago.

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Explaining the Expanding Earth - With Peter Woodhead - Part 1

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Published on 12 Jun 2014

For the article by Peter Woodhead click:
http://tinyurl.com/expearthpw

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Explaining the Expanding Earth - With Peter Woodhead - Part 2

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Published on 14 Apr 2015


In this second part, we discuss the idea of "Centre of Mass Force" and where it
might be. We also look at the effect of that on the force of gravity calculations near
the Earth's Surface. We also discuss the Jun 2014 revelations of an "undersea
ocean". Finally, we show a couple of examples of other bodies in the Solar System
venting water...

See associated article: http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms...

See part 1 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swCnP...

http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/clas...

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/...
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/...

http://physics.stackexchange.com/ques...


http://i.livescience.com/images/i/000...

http://earthsky.org/space/new-ideas-a...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-env...

http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/10/huge...


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[Cidersomerset]

Just a reminder of conventional Subduction zones and Continental drift theory.....

plate tectonics

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Earth's interior and plate tectonics

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Continental Drift: 3.3 Billion Years

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Published on 20 Apr 2015
Watch 3.3 billion years of continental drift. Credits in the video.
For this mapped onto a globe, visit http://davidson16807.github.io/3billi...

Plate Tectonics in action

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Uploaded on 25 Oct 2010
This animation shows the evolution of Earth's continents through the history of
macro-scale animal life on Earth, starting in the middle of the Ediacaran period,
some 600 million years ago.

Plate Tectonics Theory

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National Geographic Colliding Continents

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[betoobig]

"One could conclude from our understanding of information and spacememory (time) that the universe is expanding and accelerating because it is learning about itself and thus it requires more surfaces to store the holographic Planck information." Nassim Haramein

Why our earth will not function or behave like the entire Universe?

LOve...Evol

[Cidersomerset]

Why our earth will not function or behave like the entire Universe?

There is two ways of looking at this the nuts and bolts physical scientific way , or
the increasingly alternate scientific way where we may have manifested this reality
we are experiencing and none of this is real. Since that's a different part of the field,
we had better stick to the science we think/presume/are ? living in...LOL

This is an interesting subject and I'm still watching/listening to some of the vids
one point that interesting as I jut listed to it again and is why I'm posting now
is most of history is guesswork and theory even the original ancient continents
are only approximates. But the most recent Pangea does make sense from both
theories and how it fits so snugly on a smaller Earth and that the ocean plates are
much younger . Though this is countered in the conventional theory, its still
interesting what the researchers are hypothesising.



https://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/mgg/ocean_age/data/2008/image/age_oceanic_lith.jpg

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Gondwana
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Positions_of_ancient_continents,_550_million_years_ago.jpg

http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/jmeert/panottia.jpg

http://booksfact.com/images/2014/03/pangea_supercontinent_map.jpg

http://www.rocksinmyheadtoo.com/Pangea.jpg

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Aprox 26 mins in the Explaining the Expanding Earth - With Peter Woodhead - Part 1
Peter Woodhead says his theory "Steam powered Earth expansion and evidence of
this phenomena can see it all over the universe".

http://www.xearththeory.com/wp-content/uploads/expanding-earth-theory-gravity-change-peter-woodhead.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5vN9VKJinq0/UBwZmzMheBI/AAAAAAAAJGY/s7Pz8exLx4o/s800/expanding_earth_pangea_proof.gif

[Hervé]

Maybe one day, it'll get across some thick filters that an expanding earth, the way it's depicted, cannot explain subduction zones... since, according to that theory those subduction zones shouldn't exist.

[Cidersomerset]

Maybe one day, it'll get across some thick filters that an expanding earth, the way it's depicted, cannot explain subduction zones... since, according to that theory those subduction zones shouldn't exist.

Aprox 21 mins in they are talking about there being ample internal water
to explain the earths oceans by expansion, then he says the current mantle
and volcanic processes and subduction theory is the same as in the vids in #23

Peter Woodhouse I think is basically saying the Earth was more or less the same
size for aprox 4 billion years , then as the frozen core heated and expanded it
caused the earth to expand, breaking up the fixed continent of Pangea , creating
the oceans from internal sources , rather than only the comet bombardment
theory. Which explains why the ocean floor is a lot younger than the original now
spread out fixed continent.

Obviously they go into more details and how it effected gravity for the dinosaurs to
grow so big. Its well thought out wether its right or not ? and Andrew Johnson is no
mug , but that does not mean they are right , just the conventional theory does not
answer all the questions they are asking.


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About where all the water comes from, I wonder if this is a possibility?

I think this may answer your post on page one Selkie......




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Revealed:The vast reservoir hidden beneath the Earth's crust that holds as much
water as ALL of the oceans
Believed to be 400-600 kilometres (250-375 miles) beneath our feet
1.5 percent of the rock analysed comprises molecules of water
First time researchers have ever found ringwoodite, a mineral in the Earth's mantle
- after discovering it in a $20 diamond

Researchers say discover could have a 'profound' effect on our understanding on Earth

By Mark Prigg

Published: 22:36, 12 March 2014 | Updated: 14:21, 13 March 2014

Read more.........

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/12/article-2579584-1C3DE79A00000578-456_634x468.jpg

Schematic partial cross section of the Earth showing the location of ringwoodite,
which make up approximately 60% by volume of this part of the transition zone.
The diamond containing the water-bearing ringwoodite inclusion found by
originated from approximately 500 km beneath the Earth's surface, where a large
mass of water may accumulate by the subduction and recycling of oceanic
lithosphere, into the transition zone.

If water exists in huge volumes beneath Earth's crust, it is bound to have a big
impact on the mechanics of volcanoes and the movement of tectonic plates.
'One of the reasons the Earth is such a dynamic planet is the presence of some
water in its interior. Water changes everything about the way a planet works,' said
Pearson.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2579584/The-vast-reservoir-hidden-Earths-crust-holds-water-ALL-oceans.html#ixzz3jlcMwQm2
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[Selkie]

Maybe one day, it'll get across some thick filters that an expanding earth, the way it's depicted, cannot explain subduction zones... since, according to that theory those subduction zones shouldn't exist.

Herve', have you ever heard of Theodore Holden and his theory of how the earth was egg-shaped due to the axial alignment, before the collapse of the old, Saturnian system, when Saturn was the "sun" that sat motionless at the north pole?

Basically, he says that Saturn was at the north pole, along with Mars and Venus (I think), which pulled the earth into an egg-shape. All the continents were one, in the north, due to the tidal force of the axial alignment, and when that system split up, the earth collapsed, assumed it oblate-spherical shape, and the continents started to drift to where they are now.

[Delight]

Maybe one day, it'll get across some thick filters that an expanding earth, the way it's depicted, cannot explain subduction zones... since, according to that theory those subduction zones shouldn't exist.

Are you stating that subduction completely contradicts the expanding earth model? What about eduction? (https://books.google.com/books?id=DBe4C-Is48cC&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=eduction+subduction&source=bl&ots=BSgP8rN-fW&sig=B5Isqhx1_SKhBCvtaiZTs3IercU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBmoVChMI-7edh8LCxwIVxJkeCh1siAnj#v=onepage&q=eduction%20subduction&f=false)


Now let us consider some of the problems of the standard plate-tectonics model that, in fact, have motivated the search for an alternative model such as the expanding earth. One problem is how to move continents around (Kundt and Jessner 1986, Loper 1985, Lowman 1985a, Pavoni 1986, Runcorn 1980, Walzer and Maaz 1983). No good mechanism has been devised to push or pull them about. Further, recent evidence suggests that some of the continents have deep roots, going down as deep as 700 km (Kerr 1986, Lay 1988, Lowman 1985a). The movement of plates with such deep roots seems so incredible that a fixed-earth plate-tectonic model has recently been proposed that requires subduction zones which have not been suspected heretofore and for which there is little evidence (Lowman 1985b, Lowman 1986, Martin 1987, Schmidt and Embleton 1986).

Another difficulty is that both the African and the Antarctic tectonic plates are almost completely surrounded by spreading ridges with no significant subduction zones on their boundaries (Bevis and Payne 1983; Carey 1976, p. 57; Carey 1983c; Carey 1988, pp. 174-176; Karig 1978). Consequently, the subduction zones available to accommodate the spreading are not near by; and these expansion ridges themselves would have to migrate toward distant subduction zones. In fact, models of relative plate motions have not been unambiguously established yet, particularly for the circum-Pacific (Kamp and Fitzgerald 1987).

Finally, Carey has been most critical of the very concept of subduction (Carey 1976, pp. 16, 50, 54; Carey 1988, ch. 13). He has argued that typically slabs that are presumed to be thrust under plates show characteristics of tension rather than compression. And he has noticed that frequently there is little evidence of sediment accretion in subduction trenches. Chudinov also argues that evidence for subduction is weak and the phenomena observed in active marginal oceanic zones are best explained by "eduction" (extrusion of mantle material at the edge of the continental block) (Chudinov 1981). However, current plate-tectonic theory suggests that slabs are being pulled down by their own weight more than they are being pushed from the expanding ridge or by the force of plates gravitationally "sliding downhill" across the ocean floor from ridges to subduction zones (Jurdy 1987, Sekiguchi 1985, Spence 1986, Spence 1987). This can explain tensional characteristics frequently found in subduction zones. But, this does assume that oceanic plates which were less dense than the mantle when they emerged from the ridges have cooled sufficiently to become more dense than the mantle into which they are being reintroduced (Grow and Bowin 1975, Kerr 1988, Park 1988). Also it leaves unanswered what causes the low-density continental slab to descend under the Alps (Mueller and Panza 1986). Additional problems have been raised by Uyeda (1986). Subduction is a complex process involving an interplay of various forces that are difficult to quantify (Jarrard 1986). Unequivocal subduction models are difficult to affirm because subduction destroys most of its evidence; so little is yet known about its mechanics (Anderson 1981, Rea and Duncan 1986).

With respect to this problem, subduction models have been developed that let sediments be dragged under with the slab and even allow the downgoing plate to erode the overriding plate (Scholl et al. 1980, Scholl and Vallier 1983, Wortel and Cloetingh 1986). Recent surveys of the Japan Trench using Seabeam mapping, gravity and geomagnetic measurements, and seismic reflections seem to justify these models (Cadet et al. 1986; Cadet et al. 1987a,b; Kobayashi et al. 1987; Le Pichon et al. 1987). Little evidence of accretion was found, although a fractured seamount was discovered that appears to be "falling" into the trench. The landward plate seems to be "lifted" by the front edge of the seamount in such a way that suggests the seamount is being pulled under, i.e., subducted. Bivalve communities along the continental shelf indicate that water is being pressed from the subducted material, and this may "lubricate" the contact between the plates so that the oceanic slab with the seamount can slide under the continental plate with relatively little friction.

Still other difficulties with the standard plate-tectonics model have been published. For instance, "the geotectonic phenomena operating in the island arc regions are rather different from those assumed to now" (Wezel 1986b). Rocks rather than oceanic sediments in trenches, old material rather than young sediments in trench slopes, subsistence rather than uplift observed during subduction in trench margins, including the Japan Trench, and tensional rather than compressional characteristics in subduction zones are listed as evidence to support the above assertion. Also, "the origin of volcanism and high heat flow and the origin of back-arc basins are still 'basic unsolved problems' in the context of the subduction model" (Wezel 1986b). So Wezel claims that "the tectonic processes hypothesized by the present [tectonic] models do not correspond to the geological reality of the arc systems" (Wezel 1986b).

Studies on the lithosphere have noticed the paradox of a model that seems to require the continental crust to be like a "thick elastic plate" in the neighborhood of mountains yet in other contexts it is required to be weaker than the oceanic crust (McNutt 1987).

Finally, a week-long workshop on the lithosphere convened by the U.S. Geodynamics committee in 1982 noted that "no generally accepted models exist for the initiation of [subduction]", "rates and mechanisms of assimilation of models for the heating of subducted slabs¼[are] wholly inadequate¼", and "gravity profiles across subduction zones and the published geoid data do not reflect the thermally predicted excess mass" (Lithosphere 1983, pp. 28, 29).
EXPANDING EARTH?

Bill Mundy
Professor of Physics
Pacific Union College, Angwin, California (http://www.grisda.org/origins/15053.htm)

[Star Tsar]

Maybe one day, it'll get across some thick filters that an expanding earth, the way it's depicted, cannot explain subduction zones... since, according to that theory those subduction zones shouldn't exist.

Herve', have you ever heard of Theodore Holden and his theory of how the earth was egg-shaped due to the axial alignment, before the collapse of the old, Saturnian system, when Saturn was the "sun" that sat motionless at the north pole?

Basically, he says that Saturn was at the north pole, along with Mars and Venus (I think), which pulled the earth into an egg-shape. All the continents were one, in the north, due to the tidal force of the axial alignment, and when that system split up, the earth collapsed, assumed it oblate-spherical shape, and the continents started to drift to where they are now.

Forgive me for mis-understanding but do you mean in the North Star position Selkie?

[Selkie]

Maybe one day, it'll get across some thick filters that an expanding earth, the way it's depicted, cannot explain subduction zones... since, according to that theory those subduction zones shouldn't exist.

Herve', have you ever heard of Theodore Holden and his theory of how the earth was egg-shaped due to the axial alignment, before the collapse of the old, Saturnian system, when Saturn was the "sun" that sat motionless at the north pole?

Basically, he says that Saturn was at the north pole, along with Mars and Venus (I think), which pulled the earth into an egg-shape. All the continents were one, in the north, due to the tidal force of the axial alignment, and when that system split up, the earth collapsed, assumed it oblate-spherical shape, and the continents started to drift to where they are now.

Forgive me for mis-understanding but do you mean in the North Star position Selkie?

Yes, except that the axis of the earth would have been straight up and down, and not tilted like it is now.

Check out Thunderbolts

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/

[loveoflife]

Here we go again, yet another alternate version of reality that makes sense and contradicts what we are generally told.

I suppose that you never have to many models of the earth and the the universe that we live in.

[Cidersomerset]

With all these vast dates its difficult to picture it overall.



http://www2.estrellamountain.edu/faculty/farabee/BIOBK/geotime_usgs.gif

http://image.slidesharecdn.com/3bgeologictimescaleandextinction-150126074104-conversion-gate02/95/geologic-time-scale-and-extinction-2-638.jpg?cb=1422279768

http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzbiewJvNT1qfsqzho1_1280.jpg

http://www.shropshiregeology.org.uk/shropshirerocks/images/geological_past.jpg


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Various global maps thru the eons............

https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=932&q=known+geological+eras&oq=known+geological+eras&gs_l=img.12...8878.17695.0.19908.21.21.0.0.0.0.118.1569.18j2.20.0....0...1.1.64.img..8.13.1085.hpfql 5XPC9Q#tbm=isch&tbs=rimg%3ACWE80zULPV0yIjiF6cCXnxuNsVNEF2mwGaJ0KiX_1lcwQyncrAQ-cPlZJoh5eiWWlL1KWP71u5A5WOWHL2B31PnfchCoSCYXpwJefG42xERUNReV4QnS4KhIJU0QXabAZonQRoB8axyRR3rMqEgkqJf-VzBDKdxG04GOkUNW9pCoSCSsBD5w-VkmiER-TCV4MVgHQKhIJHl6JZaUvUpYRg9a8DwJz2KMqEgk_1vW7kDlY5YRFPBxQu7-MnRSoSCcvYHfU-d9yEEe0Sfj-jOej3&q=known%20geological%20eras%20including%20growing%20earth&hl=en

[Delight]

Cidersomerset,
Thanks for all your research as well as the others'!
I like this picture.

http://www2.estrellamountain.edu/faculty/farabee/BIOBK/geotime_usgs.gif

It is hard to mentally approach such vast scales. I am also aware as you said that perhaps we are imagining into appearing all of these models ourselves. My Pooh brain gets quite over awed but in a good way. It really puts my wee life in persepective. The mystery in the intricacy of the form of our Universe as we observe it is poetry. We can each can find and defend models because we obtain facts to fit. Then others do the same. There is always something that does not quite fit anyway.

LoveofLife said


Here we go again, yet another alternate version of reality that makes sense and contradicts what we are generally told.

I suppose that you never have to many models of the earth and the the universe that we live in.

I must spell a poem because it means something to me today.


Tell me not, in mournful numbers,
Life is but an empty dream!
For the soul is dead that slumbers,
And things are not what they seem.

Life is real! Life is earnest!
And the grave is not its goal;
Dust thou art, to dust returnest,
Was not spoken of the soul.

Not enjoyment, and not sorrow,
Is our destined end or way;
But to act, that each to-morrow
Find us farther than to-day.

Art is long, and Time is fleeting,
And our hearts, though stout and brave,
Still, like muffled drums, are beating
Funeral marches to the grave.

In the world’s broad field of battle,
In the bivouac of Life,
Be not like dumb, driven cattle!
Be a hero in the strife!

Trust no Future, howe’er pleasant!
Let the dead Past bury its dead!
Act,— act in the living Present!
Heart within, and God o’erhead!

Lives of great men all remind us
We can make our lives sublime,
And, departing, leave behind us
Footprints on the sands of time;

Footprints, that perhaps another,
Sailing o’er life’s solemn main,
A forlorn and shipwrecked brother,
Seeing, shall take heart again.

Let us, then, be up and doing,
With a heart for any fate;
Still achieving, still pursuing,
Learn to labor and to wait.
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

[Hervé]

Maybe one day, it'll get across some thick filters that an expanding earth, the way it's depicted, cannot explain subduction zones... since, according to that theory those subduction zones shouldn't exist.
What about eduction? (https://books.google.com/books?id=DBe4C-Is48cC&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=eduction+subduction&source=bl&ots=BSgP8rN-fW&sig=B5Isqhx1_SKhBCvtaiZTs3IercU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBmoVChMI-7edh8LCxwIVxJkeCh1siAnj#v=onepage&q=eduction%20subduction&f=false)
[...]

Eduction... interesting idea... however, if I follow it, I should be able to find pieces of Japan, Kamchatka, the Philippines, New Zealand, the Andes and the Rockies all the way back to the Pacific Mid Ocean Ridge... right?

By contrast, seismological data and the motion mechanism at earthquake rupture points (the "beach ball (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal_mechanism)" graphs) are all in strong support of the subduction of oceanic slabs at continental margins affected by such series of earthquakes:


http://myweb.cwpost.liu.edu/vdivener/notes/subd_zone.gif

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/data/slab/#models


Oceanic slab mapping under Japan:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/data/slab/images/kur_slab1.jpg

Kamchatka/Kurils/Japan http://earthquake.usgs.gov/data/slab/images/kur_slab1.jpg
Circles indicate recorded earthquakes and the lines indicate their depth of occurrence.

[BenzSolo]

How about our expanding consciousness and the Earths expanding consciousness. Food for thought. Schumanns Resonance points to this, which is the Earths brainwaves, NOT the Earths heartbeat.

[Cidersomerset]

How about our expanding consciousness and the Earths expanding
consciousness. Food for thought. Schumanns Resonance points to this, which is the
Earths brainwaves, NOT the Earths heartbeat.

A fun post , from what I'm learning about this ride...............

http://cdnpullzone1.selfhelphealing.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/487613_252279894912249_686452851_n.png

We are none -physical , pure electrical energy beings living in a universe made
from Stardust and the frequencies of the spoken word and some imagination ......https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6f/d4/9a/6fd49afd8f51d7acf873ba1e93bbc0b1.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-X3_F4yWVb9o/VDFcD7Qp1II/AAAAAAAAUI0/3bTepuDHH98/s1600/2014-10-05_10-52-27_207.gif

https://higherdensity.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/astral-projection.jpg?w=723&h=886

Experiencing the physical of this intergalactic theme park carporial experience...
Because in non - physical we manifest and live in a bliss full state , so for
contrast we created the physical to experience the senses to be born , live and
die to return to the Astral plane.........

https://somkritya.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/life-cycle-of-death.jpg

http://artfiles.alphacoders.com/365/36566.jpg

The Astral Plane....
http://orig03.deviantart.net/f405/f/2009/161/f/5/walking_the_astral_plane_by_kdh.png
https://mariwells.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/astral.jpghttps://ishtarsgate.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/manbluelite-1.jpg

[Cidersomerset]

Massive Underground Ocean Exists Beneath Earth's Crust, Study Says

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Published on 13 Jun 2014

Scientists believe they've found evidence of a potential ocean beneath our home
planet's crust. A study from researchers at Northwestern University and the
University of New Mexico have concluded the body of water rests about 400 miles
underneath earth's crust and is so large it can fill all our oceans three times over.

Their research however indicates the water is not in the typical liquid, ice or vapor
forms, but instead, is trapped in mantle rock containing a blue mineral called ringwoodite.
Ringwoodite has a structure similar to crystal that acts like a sponge to trap liquid and
pull in hydrogen. Thus far only one small piece of ringwoodite has been brought to Earth's
surface from 400 miles underground by volcanic activity and was found to contain water
in solid form. The researchers combined lab experiments on mantle rock under high
pressure with seismic data measuring U.S. earthquakes to reach their conclusions.


The discovery is an important one as it will help scientists learn how the Earth formed
and its current composition. Northwestern geophysicist Steve Jacobsen, who is a co-author
of the study, commented "I think we are finally seeing evidence for a whole-Earth water
cycle, which may help explain the vast amount of liquid water on the surface of our habitable
planet. Scientists have been looking for this missing deep water for decades."

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News & Politics

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

All very intriguing. Needs further scrutiny, and more information, particularly a balanced counter-argument, but so far, there is nothing here that in any way 'offends' common reason, intelligence, or personally speaking, my sense of gathered knowledge on related subjects, which forms my view and understanding of things. It seems quite plausible!

I wonder, should someone post this info on...ahem, the flat earth (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83765-A-Flat-Earth-not-Round-...) thread to see what they say about it?

/runs