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cursichella1
26th August 2015, 20:14
Today's shooting in Moneta, VA. Journalist and cameraman shot during live broadcast. Suspect kills self...

Today's VA shooting (http://www.whsv.com/home/headlines/Roanoke-News-Crew-Involved-in-Shooting-Incidenst-322939771.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_WHSVnews&device=phone&c=y)

Today's VA shooter's "excuse" (http://www.whsv.com/home/headlines/After-Shooting-Alleged-Gunman-Details-Grievances-in-Suicide-Notes-322990431.html?device=phone&c=y)



...the 23-page document faxed to ABC News, the writer says “MY NAME IS BRYCE WILLIAMS” and his legal name is Vester Lee Flanagan II.” He writes what triggered today’s carnage was his reaction to the racism of the Charleston church shooting:

“Why did I do it? I put down a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15...

“What sent me over the top was the church shooting. And my hollow point bullets have the victims’ initials on them."


Reuters
By Gary Robertson

MONETA, Virginia (Reuters) - A television reporter and a cameraman were shot and killed during a live broadcast in Virginia on Wednesday in an attack authorities said was carried out by a former employee of the TV station.

The suspect, 41-year-old Vester Flanagan, shot and wounded himself several hours later as police pursued him on a Virginia highway. He died later at the hospital, police said.

Social media postings by a person who appeared to be Flanagan indicated the suspect had grievances against the station, CBS affiliate WDBJ7 in Roanoke, Virginia, which let him go two years ago.

The WDBJ7 journalists who were killed were reporter Alison Parker, 24, and cameraman Adam Ward, 27. The woman being interviewed on the morning news program was wounded.

The on-air shooting occurred at about 6:45 a.m. EDT (1045 GMT) during an interview at Bridgewater Plaza, a Smith Mountain Lake recreation site about 200 miles (320 km) southwest of Washington, D.C.

The broadcast was abruptly interrupted by the sound of gunshots as Parker and the woman being interviewed, Vicki Gardner, executive director of the Smith Mountain Lake Regional Chamber of Commerce, screamed and ducked for cover.

Hours after the shooting, someone claiming to have filmed it posted video online that appeared to be from the shooter's vantage point. The videos were posted to a Twitter account and on Facebook by a man identifying himself as Bryce Williams, which was Flanagan's on-air name.

The videos were removed shortly afterward. One video clearly showed a handgun as the person filming approached the woman reporter.

The person purporting to be Williams also posted, "I filmed the shooting see Facebook" as well as saying one of the victims had "made racist comments."

Flanagan had sued another station where he worked in Florida, alleging he had been discriminated against because he was black.

Flanagan said he was called a "monkey" by a producer in a lawsuit filed in federal court against a Tallahassee station, WTWC, in 2000. He also said a supervisor at the station called black people lazy. The Florida case was settled and dismissed the next year, court records show.


*I can't bring myself to post the video or stills of the shooting. That just empowers the agenda(s) behind (or hoping to capitalize on) this...

A Voice from the Mountains
26th August 2015, 20:31
There was a book written in the 1990's about the CIA running an MK-ULTRA-type program around the Virginia Tech campus. Aside from the shooting at Virginia Tech, another foreign student decapitated someone in a cafeteria there, and the guy who shot up Fort Hood was also from Roanoke and had been involved with something to do with psychiatry at Virginia Tech.

This could just be a nut, but the way it's all unfolded and blown up with the media makes me think back to what the CIA has been doing out of nearby Virginia Tech for at least about 20 years.


Some links for checking back in with past events in this area:

http://www.sott.net/article/130645-Project-Paperclip-MKULTRA-Dr-Greenbaum-and-Seung-Hui-Cho-Was-the-VA-Tech-Gunman-Mind-Programmed

http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/140607_darpa_blacksburg.html

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=295.0



On Saturday June 9th, 2007 Matthew Kazee called in to the Alex Ansary show to discuss the Underground DARPA base in Blacksburg Virginia. For years there have been rumors that hidden away in in Blacksburg was a top secret underground DARPA base where research was done on many things including robotics, chips for humans so they can control computers with their mind, and chips for computers to control people's minds.

The rumors broke nationally from a woman by the name of Cathy O'Brien who wrote a book in 1995 called "Trance-Formation of America", in which she claimed that Bill Clinton was a partner with George Bush Sr. in a drug smuggling operation that was exposed in the Iran Contra Affair, and later proved by former D.E.A. Cele Castillo. It involved smuggling guns to the Contra's in exchange for cocaine which was air lifted by the C.I.A. in C-130 airplanes to the small town of Mena, Arkansas while Bill Clinton was Governor. O'Brien claimed that they had a plan to bring in a "new world order" and after people got tired of Republicans that Bill Clinton would be President. This was decided in 1984.

She also claims she was a victim of the M.K. Ultra Program in Blacksburg Virginia in a underground DARPA base located in "Butt Mountain". The strangest quote I read that Cathy O'Brien said was "Virginia Tech is good for two things, engineering and mind control." and that "most of the east coast M.K. Ultra Mind Control experiments happened in this DARPA facility." This was written in 1995, the same year that a plane crashed in to the White House on September 11 in an attempt to kill President Clinton.

http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/140607_darpa_blacksburg.html

cursichella1
26th August 2015, 20:59
There was a book written in the 1990's about the CIA running an MK-ULTRA-type program around the Virginia Tech campus. Aside from the shooting at Virginia Tech, another foreign student decapitated someone in a cafeteria there, and the guy who shot up Fort Hood was also from Roanoke and had been involved with something to do with psychiatry at Virginia Tech.

This could just be a nut, but the way it's all unfolded and blown up with the media makes me think back to what the CIA has been doing out of nearby Virginia Tech for at least about 20 years.


You could say VA has a "rich history" in many respects. Thanks for posting the addition info.

btw Does this sound like something a shooter might document in advance or more like laying the groundwork of "evidence" against a patsy?:

“Why did I do it? I put down a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15...

“What sent me over the top was the church shooting. And my hollow point bullets have the victims’ initials on them."

Constance
27th August 2015, 04:19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpQazJb6h6E#t=41

Guess they stuffed this one up.

A Voice from the Mountains
27th August 2015, 04:20
I had another thought today about this, when asking myself why this would be useful as a false flag, if that is indeed the case.

Public trust in media is way down lately, to the point where most Americans inherently do not trust what they see on media. I think the situation with Donald Trump is making this divide between the media of the wealthy and the views of the common people particularly clear, because while Trump leads the polls for the republican candidacy, all mainstream media networks seem to be constantly bashing him every day. Not only should this send a wake up call to Americans, that all media is severely biased and not interested at all in what the majority of people think as long as they have an assigned agenda to promote, but all of this negative media coverage has not taken Trump out of the lead in these polls yet either.

This may not be the only issue here but it's indicative of how little credibility the US public gives to the CIA-trained media anymore. Their social experiment has been running out of steam and when their credibility gets low to a critical point, they're just one Bastille away from a very unpleasant turn of events for them, especially as knowledgeable as people are beginning to become today and how rapidly information travels.

So by having this event today, if it was truly engineered for social reasons, I can see how it would serve to make people sympathize with news anchors more and thereby give more credence to the stories they report. I feel very sorry that this happened, and I believe that the news crew at WDBJ7 are all wonderful people. But the overall machine that is the mainstream media in the US today is still guilty on a high level of what I think would amount to war crimes, in the sense that the wealthy powers behind the major news companies are essentially waging an information war on American citizens.

A Voice from the Mountains
27th August 2015, 04:33
Guess they stuffed this one up.

These people are likely trained not to turn their attention or especially the camera away from what they are supposed to be doing just because people are coming or going around them, as it interferes with the quality of the report once you see it on TV. It would be immensely distracting if someone was being interviewed while the camera man and interviewer kept looking around at everything going on around them, and you rarely see this even when reporters are in public around a lot of people. This is not a dangerous area to live in, either, so there is normally no reason of immediate physical danger to even have to pay attention to what is going on around you.

As far as the camera not being pointed at the interview taking place, the live feed that was going out on TV from the news station itself is available and I'm sure you would be able to compare and contrast between the two, as obviously someone was filming that interview for the news station at some point in time.

None of the shots that I saw would have prevented that woman from running, especially once the adrenaline kicked in, and the amount of time it took her to respond by running also seems totally natural to me. Her first response was not to run but simply an expression of shock and incomprehension as to what had just happened a split second before.

I would not be surprised if the gunman were a product of some kind of program that spawned from MK ULTRA, but the whole situation just feels way too real to me to be faked on that level, and there still are lots of very malicious people out there who are not afraid to kill in order to push their agenda. The cries, the reaction of the woman in the newsrooms, all of it, and it is disturbing to watch because of how real it is.

cursichella1
27th August 2015, 04:43
These people are likely trained...
Guess they stuffed this one up.

Interesting, the video isn't half as scary as the frame stills. Even without the goofy music. No wonder the photos are plastered all over MSM...they'll get much more mileage out of those.

I agree she wouldn't have allowed for a distraction if they were filming. Shooter said he had loaded hollow point bullets (maximum stopping power, minimal collateral damage), so, if actually hit three times wouldn't the final moments of the scene have played out differently?

Citizen No2
27th August 2015, 07:43
How will 'they' explain this one away?

BAM! TOTALLY IRREVOCABLY CONFIRMED FALSE FLAG: CHRIS HURST, A NEWS ANCHOR AT THE STATION, TWEETED THE SHOOTING 12 MINUTES BEFORE IT HAPPENED AND HE WAS NOT OUT OF TOWN, THE TIME STAMP IS FOR VIRGINIA!

http://82.221.129.208/ad2index.html



There is no way she would not have been knocked off her high heels, there was no body shudder when the bullets supposedly hit, no impact stutter in her voice as she screamed through two gun shots, no camera jerk from gun kick as the shooter fires and she runs away on high heels at full speed in perfect condition with no marks visible anywhere, on either side of her body while the shooter supposedly turns on the camera man.

The shooter supposedly had hollow-point bullets, look on youtube to see the damage they cause.

The first-person shooter video: http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/shooting.mp4

Can you see what is wrong with this situation?

Those are blank rounds he is firing, you can hear it. This is so sloppy, but 'they' don't care.

Oh....... and now the shooter is dead, how convenient.

American Brothers' and Sisters'.......... they want your guns, big time.



We better hold on to our hats'............ these events are coming thick and fast.


Regards.

amor
27th August 2015, 08:07
Was this video a RE-ENACTMENT? I thought the shooter was a BLACK MAN. The hand holding the gun was very definitely WHITE! All sorts of false flags are being done to manipulate public opinion. However, I will say that employed people are treated with great disrespect and fired in a manner, it would appear, intended to provoke a lifetime of hatred and resentment, even more so among those who may be unstable and require handling with greater love and concern.

Omni
27th August 2015, 08:50
Guess they stuffed this one up.
I'm undecided. The point they do not look at him surely is faulty reasoning though IMHO. Reporters have to ignore all sorts of people hovering around them while recording, so that isn't surprising. How many reporters stop what they are doing and acknowledge people around them while interviewing someone? I've never seen it once.

The first shot I'm not sure even would hit her, if it wasn't a blank. One of the shots looks like it would hit her, but I'm still not sure if it would. And if it did it may have hit her in the arm, not the body.

Very well could be fake given what we know about mainstream media and false flags, but I'm not convinced personally.

If they are faking these i wouldn't be surprised if they move these people to some SSP base on the moon or mars though. Just a thought...

Rhah
27th August 2015, 10:42
These people are likely trained not to turn their attention or especially the camera away from what they are supposed to be doing just because people are coming or going around them, as it interferes with the quality of the report once you see it on TV. It would be immensely distracting if someone was being interviewed while the camera man and interviewer kept looking around at everything going on around them, and you rarely see this even when reporters are in public around a lot of people. This is not a dangerous area to live in, either, so there is normally no reason of immediate physical danger to even have to pay attention to what is going on around you.

Yes, this is indeed a fair point. It doesn't, however, explain to me why the woman being interviewed doesn't look up or notice the shooter. She most likely hasn't had such training, and she's standing in a position where she easily should've noticed a man standing two meters away from her pointing a gun towards the woman interviewing her with an outstretched arm. While trained journalists indeed rarely turn their attention away from what they're doing, regular people being interviewed often do.

When you watch the live broadcested footage, I also find the interviewee's reaction to the gunshots a bit off to be honest... To me her reaction looks more like she wasn't expecting the shots to be this loud, rather than not expecting someone to fire a gun in the first place. Almost as if she was told beforehand that this was going to happen but was still startled by how loud the shots turned out to be. Also notice how she still doesn't look towards the shooter when he fires his gun. Again, almost as if she was told not to pay any attention to him. If she really didn't notice him coming towards them, or tried to stay professional and ignored him up until that point, wouldn't he still be the first thing she would look at after he would unexpectedly fire a gun so close to her?

I also think it's a little too convenient that the cameraman just happened to start taking shots of the environment as the shooter starts his recording (which is a very strange thing to do in the first place) and starts to walk towards them, giving the shooter the time and chance to get so close to the trio while holding a gun. I have operated as a sound man for various multimedia productions and have thus spent a lot of time side by side with many cameramen, and I can say that even though they obviously spend a lot of time looking through their camera lense, they certainly don't loose sight of what's happening around them. An experienced cameraman, especially one working on his own without someone beside him to guide his steps, still has to pay close attention to what's happening around him so that he has the ability to adept to possible changes or happenings in his surroundings without it affecting the quality of his work. I've even seen cameramen holding off bystanders whilst continuing filming.
So if the cameraman would've had his camera pointed at the two women he most definitely would've noticed the shooter coming close to them. Let alone him carrying a gun and pointing it towards the interviewer several times.

You can also hear the shooter whispering "bitch" when he's standing right behind the cameraman before pointing his gun which he certainly could've heard him say. I'm just saying, couldn't the cameraman just have turned his head for a second while keeping his camera steady to see who said that? After all, it's not like they were filming in a crowded place with lots of people messing around. In fact, there wasn't even any one else around. So when you suddenly hear someone whispering the word "bitch" nearly right next to your ear while you, a male cameraman, are filming a woman interviewing another woman who are standing alone on a porch, I'd think that would at least cause some sort of reaction, wouldn't it?

If all this really happened then of course it's absolutely terrible. But a lot of things just don't add up for me and the whole thing just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Edit: I would just like to add, as others have also rightfully mentioned already, that it feels to me that the shooter's twitter posts and his first person footage were needed to absolutely convince the people that it did actually happen, as not a whole lot can be seen and made out from the original live footage. Again, it's just too convenient. If the live footage was all that was available there would simply be a lot more questions. Whereas now they seem to have the material to take away any doubts certain people might still have.

Edit #2: I actually just realised one more thing that I didn't pick up the first few times I watched the first person footage. And that is the fact that the cameraman isn't wearing headphones... At first I thought he was, but after closer inspection it turned out to be just sunglasses that he was wearing on his head.
As I said, I have worked as a sound man and it's an absolute necessity during these kind of productions for someone to check and keep an eye on the audio recording. Usually this is the sound man's job, obviously, but when one isn't present and the cameraman is working alone this becomes his task. With a camera like the one he is using the sound picked up from the microphone which is plugged into the camera, as you can see in the footage, gets recorded right onto the tape. But the gain of the microphone (i.e. the volume) still has to be checked and adjusted. If you don't, then there is, first of all, a chance that you're not recording any sound at all, but also that it's either too soft or too loud, etc.
Now the footage obviously has sound, so there's a chance that he checked his sound input and gained the interviewer's mic beforehand (I would assume he did), and then took off his headphones... But that is still a very uncommon thing to do. Because in that case you simply can't hear if, for instance, the recording suddenly started clipping, or if the mic maybe happened to pick up an airplane flying over or a car driving by causing the speach of either the interviewer or the interviewee to become unintelligible. Which, when found out later on, would simply render the interview either partially or completely useless - something that is absolutey unacceptable in that line of work and has to be prevented at all costs. In other words; a risk no half-decent cameraman would take.
It's actually a very common thing and the reason why they often have to do one or multiple retakes just to get the audio right. So for the cameraman not to wear headphones is not only very strange but also simply unprofessional and just one more reason for me to believe that this never was intented to be a serious television production.

Shannon
27th August 2015, 15:55
Above all the points brought up above, I just think one thing is missing in this video of three people being shot..... And that would be someone actually getting shot. Bodies don't just absorb bullets. I was skeptical from the jump when I saw this yesterday morning.

Hollow point bullets blow holes through people. And at that close range, no way would she be running, no way.


And I agree the reporter is trained to be distracted but that doesn't account for the lady being interviewed just pretending to not see the huge man with a gun standing three feet in front of them.

Scary world we live in. And it's Not because people have access to fire arms, it's scary because we have people running the show who are manipulating and controlling the masses emotions to conform to their laws and principles.

It's like they will keep putting out these disgusting live movies of mass murder until they start rounding up anyone who owns guns.

Shannon
27th August 2015, 17:54
You guys notice she turns and glances quickly at the supposed shooter well before shots rang out?

I'm interested to know what injuries the lady being interviewed has, her last name is gardener I believe. There's a bunch of weird things im noticing and that has been brought to attention.

The camera mans "supposed" shot of the shooter which was time stamped 6:00am, the shootings didn't start till 6:46.

The reporters boyfriend is creepy, all smiley and no tears...and he said that morning she was happier than he's ever seen her. Weird.

Harley
28th August 2015, 05:49
https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11217159_891261514273291_6463711303989668630_n.jpg?oh=ee72821e2de55df6180ef76c6cd1b1aa&oe=566852E9

Harley
28th August 2015, 08:14
Also, from the shooter's camera it appears that his right shirt-sleeve is unbuttoned.

http://i.imgur.com/ezaewmd.jpg


From the cameraman's camera the picture is a bit dark, but doesn't it appear that the shooter's right shirt-sleeve is wrapped fairly tight around his wrist, as it should if it were buttoned?

http://i.imgur.com/3smITGH.jpg

And you're correct Saint Theresa. The time-stamp on the live video camera was 6:45 (with no "a" to denote AM), yet the time-stamp on the still shot of the shooter is 6:00a, from the very same camera.

Oh and also notice that the time-stamps appear on opposite sides of the banner.

http://i.imgur.com/5BlaxHFl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pgma2cC.jpg

There's some really serious crock-o-nonsense going on here!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_gYyVXMF88

Citizen No2
28th August 2015, 08:29
Excellent observation Harley.

Is that a white hand holding the gun? Could be a trick of light, but looks like one to me, compared to the picture of the shooter whose skin looks to be a lot darker.

Someone at work mentioned the big blast in China, "that happened the other month". Look at the effect Fracturing has on the collective memory of the citizenry.

Look how this event is slipping out of the collective mindset. Was not even mentioned on last night's evening news (UK). The fracturing of attention span goes on unabated.

Next?

More death and destruction for our viewing delight.

Hold steady.......... Citizens'.



Regards.

Harley
28th August 2015, 09:00
Is that a white hand holding the gun? Could be a trick of light, but looks like one to me, compared to the picture of the shooter whose skin looks to be a lot darker.

I didn't want to say because it could be lighting.

But I will say (for what it's worth) that the shade of the hand does look pretty comparable to the shade of her legs.

Omni
28th August 2015, 09:02
Thx Harley, I think that does it for me. Yet another hoax...

idiit
28th August 2015, 09:51
Quote Posted by Citizen No2 (here)
Is that a white hand holding the gun? Could be a trick of light, but looks like one to me, compared to the picture of the shooter whose skin looks to be a lot darker


Video and photographic evidence suggests assailant in video is white, yet so-called shooter Bryce Williams is black

http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2015/08/james-tracy-va-reporter-and-cameraman.html

Snookie
28th August 2015, 19:57
One thing that seemed very odd to me right off the bat, was the report that the shooter FAXED his manifesto into ABC news, 2 hours after the shooting.

First who uses faxes anymore, and second how the he** was he able to get access to a fax machine while he was supposedly on the run from the police 2 hours later? Wasn't he supposed to have gone to the airport to switch vehicles after the shooting? So when did he have time never mind the wherewithal to do this?

John & Adam do a good deconstruction on this event early in their Thursday show.
http://www.noagendashow.com

A Voice from the Mountains
29th August 2015, 03:37
First who uses faxes anymore, and second how the he** was he able to get access to a fax machine while he was supposedly on the run from the police 2 hours later? Wasn't he supposed to have gone to the airport to switch vehicles after the shooting? So when did he have time never mind the wherewithal to do this?

Good question. As time goes on I feel like this is going to be dissected in great detail. This is the local news station I've been familiar with since I was very little, which makes it all the more intriguing to me.

WhiteFeather
29th August 2015, 12:33
If I may. "It's all about the guns bout the guns". In my intuition, I was indeed sensitive to a false flag event here. Just another nail in the coffin to try and disarm one of our constitutional rights. Yes my friends, they are so scared of us, when they find out we know their game. And many are. It's all about the guns bout the guns. Hum it to this song I'm posting peeps.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyTTX6Wlf1Y

cursichella1
30th August 2015, 07:33
If I may. "It's all about the guns bout the guns". In my intuition, I was indeed sensitive to a false flag event here. Just another nail in the coffin to try and disarm one of our constitutional rights. Yes my friends, they are so scared of us, when they find out we know their game. And many are. It's all about the guns bout the guns.

I think you're right about the gun control but this false flag seems multipurposed:

The initial headlines quoted "the shooter" claiming this was retaliation for the Charlotte shooting. That resurrects Charlotte, so blacks re-angered by a white racist murdering innocent blacks and whites angered by a black guy shooting innocent whites. This, to amplify the racial tension that Ferguson brought to the forefront, albeit to reenforce the white racists which reinforces the black anger which...

Racial tension is a necessity, as are the other divisive issues...immigration, abortion, etc., (controlled opposition) if citizens are to require controlling, which is where we are headed. If we're forever fighting each other we'll never unite against the controllers.

btw A headline today (*WSJ or Zero Hedge?) said something like "Shooter Identified with 911 Attacks". My first thought was they're giving the impression the shooter was a "truther" to make the 911 truth people look like nutcases. If you didn't read the entire article, that would've been the impression you'd leave with. However, four paragraphs down (when they finally decide to address what's in the headline), it says that the shooter identified with the 911 terrorists and the mass murder of innocent people.

So now, it'll be easier to label anything remotely racist as a potential terror threat (and all that goes with that) and in the minds of readers, 911 truthers got not only another foil hat but more potential for a terrorist label as well. Amazing.

*I'll try to find the source for the article

p.s. Looks like everyone had a similar article, except some, like the one I read, said "911 attacks". Others more appropriately said, "911 attackers".

Citizen No2
30th August 2015, 10:31
For anyone that is not sure, maybe 50/50, could be false, could be true..... Please click the link and spend 2 minutes reading the report.


From Jim Stone: PROOF BLANKS WERE USED, SCROLL DOWN FOR FULL REPORT


DURING DAYLIGHT, IT IS USUALLY DIFFICULT TO SEE MUZZLE FLASH FROM REAL BULLETS USING MODERN SMOKELESS POWDER, AND THAT IS ALL THERE IS NOWADAYS. However, muzzle flash from blanks shows up clearly, and this is what we see here to the left. OOOH, SCARY LOOKING, but IT PROVES BLANKS, as does the excessive smoke which I have NEVER seen from any real round I have fired and I have shot thousands and thousands and thousands of rounds and I mean freaking THOUSANDS with hand guns, shot guns, rifles, you name it I have owned it, I have never seen smoke with modern (and I am talking past 50 years) bullets and always see it with blanks which I have also shot. WHAT SMOKES? OLD SCHOOL BLACK POWDER.

http://82.221.129.208/ad6index.html


I said this right from the beginning, blanks. Anyone that has ever fired a weapon with blank rounds knows that is exactly what happened here. End of. Put with all the other evidence, before-event tweets, splicing of 'live' footage, manufactured link's to terrorists', etc, etc...........

My personal take is this. I think that we are being hood-winked, but not in the way that many of you may think, I think it is a lot more sinister than that and this is the reason why:

For a week or so before they dropped the bomb on Hiroshima, the US Airforce flew a B-29 in the skies above Hiroshima so as to normalise the sight of this plane in the residents' eyes'. This meant that when the B-29 flew over Hiroshima on that day, and the bomb was dropped, no one ran to the shelters. Maximum casualties.

I am of the opinion that this is some-what of a similar tactic we are witnessing currently. I can not accept that the perpetrators of these event's are that sloppy, time and time again. I think that we are being hood-winked, cautiously, so that we come to think "false-flag" as our gut instinct when events' like this happen. For what reason I have no clue, but it will definitely be sinister.

The fact's of this event are clear. They are not as reported in controlled media, that much is provable.

Regards.

Akasha
30th August 2015, 11:07
Here's a couple of exposés of Andy Parker, father of Alison Parker.

FfuhKj6a7nE

5NrEEM9ojqg

Views for the season finale of Mr. Robot are gonna be off the charts!!! (http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/aug/26/season-finale-mr-robot-delayed-similar-scenes-virginia-shooting)

Shannon
30th August 2015, 13:22
Here's a couple of exposés of Andy Parker, father of Alison Parker.

FfuhKj6a7nE

5NrEEM9ojqg

Views for the season finale of Mr. Robot are gonna be off the charts!!! (http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/aug/26/season-finale-mr-robot-delayed-similar-scenes-virginia-shooting)

I knew that guy was an actor ...what a hump.

Shannon
30th August 2015, 17:55
First who uses faxes anymore, and second how the he** was he able to get access to a fax machine while he was supposedly on the run from the police 2 hours later? Wasn't he supposed to have gone to the airport to switch vehicles after the shooting? So when did he have time never mind the wherewithal to do this?

Good question. As time goes on I feel like this is going to be dissected in great detail. This is the local news station I've been familiar with since I was very little, which makes it all the more intriguing to me.

This is interesting because I feel like there's something stopping people from seeing what's right in front of their faces, and I don't know how to get them to view it for what it is, a scary scripted reality. I wish someone in the upper rankings of tptb or someone inside the sandy hook hoax would come out and be a whistleblower or something ...

How long are our emotions and intelligence going to be tested by these psychos? I hope there's someone brave enough to speak out when these made for mainstream media movies are played out for us again. And again.

cursichella1
30th August 2015, 18:50
First who uses faxes anymore, and second how the he** was he able to get access to a fax machine while he was supposedly on the run from the police 2 hours later? Wasn't he supposed to have gone to the airport to switch vehicles after the shooting? So when did he have time never mind the wherewithal to do this?

Good question. As time goes on I feel like this is going to be dissected in great detail. This is the local news station I've been familiar with since I was very little, which makes it all the more intriguing to me.

For bsray: 21St Century Wire went into some detail on the affiliate station with comments by the Station Manager.

For all: Here's a summary of topics covered in detail on today's 21St Century Wire Broadcast with Patrick Henningsen. (I was particularly impressed with how he unravelled the Ottawa shooting.)

21st Century has a running theme "The Daily Shooter", referring to this one particular shooting as The Truman Show. Today's broadcast plays several audio tapes of theatrical press conferences, interviews of the overly-eloquent boyfriend and the talking points of CNN's ever-terrorized, multi-climaxing Wolf Blitzer.

Several inconsistencies of the story are covered, including the shirt issue, tweet timing, faxing, Facebook; photo, audio, video and location anomalies, car anomalies...it's endless.

And as with the other shootings, it's also about money - groups are already raising money/soliciting the public for scholarships and whatever to 'ease the pain'. The Govt is already appropriating money to victims' families*. New police tech (that didn't work) gets an obvious plug.

*$27M has been paid out to date to the Charlotte victims' families.

Speculation that the "shooter" may have been executed by police. BBC having to scrub their footage of that crime scene...link to article with BBC Tweets (http://truthinmedia.com/virginia-police-force-bbc-delete-crash-footage/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=nl)

Comparisons between this and prior false flag shootings (with this latest, now introduced as a domestic "terror event").

Talking points for profit: better police tech, mental health-assessments for kids, increased gun sales, etc., ensuring profitability for Big Pharma, tech companies, gun manufacturers, private security, etc., how all if it plays into both political parties, and how with each shooting more precedents are set for labeling and new "police state" laws.

Conversations with Jay Dyer and Basil Valentine go in several directions, covering related events and topics.

Link to Live Broadcast 21St Century Wire (http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/08/30/episode-99-sunday-wire-the-truman-shooting-with-guests-jay-dyer-and-basil-valentine/?utm_source=21stCenturyWire.com+Subscriber&utm_campaign=6c72cf7231-21st+Century+Wire+Daily&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1dfb7233cb-6c72cf7231-72393861)

Link to Download mp3 of This Show (http://traffic.libsyn.com/sundaywire/acr_sunday_wire_ep_98.mp3)

Link to Show Archives (http://21stcenturywire.com/category/sunday-wire-radio-show/)

cursichella1
30th August 2015, 19:27
Here's a couple of exposés of Andy Parker, father of Alison Parker.

Views for the season finale of Mr. Robot are gonna be off the charts!!! (http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/aug/26/season-finale-mr-robot-delayed-similar-scenes-virginia-shooting)

I knew that guy was an actor ...what a hump.

Another False Flag, another lousy actor/dad-of-victim named "Parker":

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Harley
30th August 2015, 22:39
Presentation

Especially when dealing with a large group of people, in order to put over any concept or suggestion it has to be presented in such a way that the majority will buy into it. 9/11 is a perfect example of this. Because of the way it was presented, they were able to make it stick because the majority believed it (and still do).

This one on the other hand is a whole lot different. Sure it involves several highly charged issues (guns, racism, etc) and provides shock and awe (terrorism on live tv!), but it was also very poorly presented.

In fact, it was so poorly presented that I believe it was intentional.

The Power Of The MSM

Let me ask a question: With all of it's obvious flaws and errors, if this report and video had been presented only on YouTube, etc but it was not being reported anywhere in the MSM, how much traction do you think it would have gained? Would the majority of people have believed it?

Now compare that to the traction that it has gained after being presented on the MSM.

It's just mind boggling. I've seen far better hoaxes presented on YouTube.

A Test

Think of this as an experiment in a lab, and we are the test subjects.

When a person is subjected to the same stimulus over and over they naturally begin to acquire an immuty to it, up to the point where it no longer has much effect on them. In other words they get tired of The Boy Who Cried Wolf (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf) over and over again (OK, so the wolf came. Big deal). Therefore, in order to obtain the desired effect the stimulus will need to be increased or modified.

But how does one know how much to increase or modify the stimulus without destroying the entire experiment? Easy! You perform a fairly safe yet effective test.

That's what I believe this is all about. It is a test to check the gullibility of the American People and the World in order to ascertain how much the stimulus can be increased without destroying everything.

To quote Citizen No2:


I think it is a lot more sinister than that to come.

And to add:

Remember, they don't need to convince everyone of anything.

Only a majority.

A Voice from the Mountains
31st August 2015, 03:40
The person said to be the father of Alison Parker is a total shill for gun control and attacking the Constitution in a way that no politician would be able to get away with. If this was a false flag, digging into his background and business connections might turn something up.

NeedleThreader
1st September 2015, 14:09
Hello All,

September is upon us. It feels like every year this forum heats up with discussion around this time, there is a lot going on! I would ask that particular attention be paid to the shootings and racial tensions that are escalating in the MSM right now.

With the coming elections, gun control is going to be a big discussion point. I'm pretty sure that no other country is as gun crazy as this one. I am not here to argue for or against the second amendment.

Rather my intention here is to bring awareness to how the establishment/ptb/illuminati are staging these incidents, methodically and strategically. They are carefully weaving a culture of fear that will eventually result in either race wars, seizing of guns or a police state. Remember these people have years to do this. It is easy to illustrate how people in the United States would react if serious gun control were to be enacted. The takeover by the government would never be complete without seizing our last form of possible defiance. By the way I do no own a gun.

This issue has been around for a long time but right now it is incredibly easy to poke holes in the fabricated incidents. The Virginia shooting for example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=197&v=xO82SN6bAH4

The commentary in this short video mirrors my thoughts while watching too. Where is the emotion? The dad just so happened to be a politician and is a Broadway actor.

I also took the time to force myself to watch the taped shooting. I usually never watch this
sort of thing but my mind was blown when it seemed as if the reporter, Alison Parker, was shot at point blank in the chest three times with no sign of blood as she ran away. The 'hollow point' bullets that were used with 'the victims initials' carved on them would have blown freakin' holes in these people.

I am here to state that the Virginia news crew shooting, along with many other KEY incidents, are staged. As many of you know the 'father' of the victim is now dropping everything and pushing for gun control.

To recap, if you just google 'shooting incident' and hit the 'news' button,it will propagate a disturbing list occurring just in the last 24 hours. While this is not my favorite subject to discuss at all it is alarmingly clear what the 'agenda' is for the future of this county and world.

They want us to be violent and fearful. They are fabricating an immense amount of bad energy with all the media outlets plugged into this current meme.

This too shall pass. Much love.

Akasha
1st September 2015, 16:19
Similar thread started last week here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84834-Piggyback-False-Flag-Today-s-VA-Shooter-Blamed-Charleston-Shooting&p=993097&viewfull=1#post993097). Merge?

ThePythonicCow
1st September 2015, 16:29
Hello All,

September is upon us. It feels like every year this forum heats up with discussion around this time, there is a lot going on! I would ask that particular attention be paid to the shootings and racial tensions that are escalating in the MSM right now.

...


Similar thread started last week here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84834-Piggyback-False-Flag-Today-s-VA-Shooter-Blamed-Charleston-Shooting&p=993097&viewfull=1#post993097). Merge?
Good idea - merge done - thanks!

Citizen No2
2nd September 2015, 18:30
I don't know if we can compete with the utter psycopathy of whoever or whatever is in charge of this madness.

This ab-so-lute-ly nails it for me.................. do the facts of this event fit the official version, or the truth?.



PROP GUN USED FOR SHOOTING:

From Jim Stone: http://82.221.129.208/ad9index.html


This perfectly explains EVERYTHING, the fact you can still hear her screaming when a real gun would make it impossible, the lack of shells ejecting, the excess fire and smoke AND how the problem of possibly dangerous blanks was solved.

Mike sent the following:
Non Gun used:

Here's an interesting take on the VA shooting. Not blanks used, but a Hollywood prop known as a "non-gun," available for about $100 and which eliminates the dangers that can occur when using blanks. FYI.

"A reader left me an interesting link. It’s a side-by-side comparison video of a real Glock 9 millimeter handgun firing real rounds compared to what we saw on the WDBJ shooting video. I thought you should see it. It’s pretty self-explanatory. Pay attention to the lack of muzzle flash on the real gun (left) and the lack of cartridges being ejected on the fake one (right)"



Glock 17 side-by-side comparison: https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2015/09/01/was-a-non-gun-used-in-the-wdbj-shooting-hoax/#more-35363


Regards.