The Jacques Nietzermann hoax

[fbs_brazil]

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/211898/nietzermann__1987_video_announcing_doomsday_on_september_28_2015_again/

[ThePythonicCow]

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/211898/nietzermann__1987_video_announcing_doomsday_on_september_28_2015_again/

Could you add a few words, telling us what's here? Some of us prefer that, over posting just plain links. Thanks.

[fbs_brazil]

Quoting uploader: "He did it again! How many more of these Nietzermann videos MrVengeance37 has up his sleeves? - Here is a subtitled version. Of course we might want to take that with a pinch of salt. But, really, where is this going? It seems that Luke and Mack know a little more. MrVengeance37 obviously the whole truth... and he is playing us. Many others announce major events around September 23 - 28. It's coming soon -- But I'm sure we'll be alright. Peace!"

[ThePythonicCow]

I did a bit of Google searching on this video. It was first uploaded in 2012, and uses video technology and encodings that were not available until the early 2000's. The original uploader explains that (here (https://www.libertariannews.org/2012/04/06/psychic-from-the-1980s-accurately-predicts-next-30-years/)) by saying he redigitized it and added the subtitles, using recent equipment. The original uploader chose not to explain how he came to possess the original.

I conclude that this is either a hoax, or intentionally indistinguishable from a hoax.

[fbs_brazil]

Just clarifying, the video that I posted above isn't the first one that appeared in 2012. But one that was uploaded just a few days ago. This is the 2012 video (there are others too):
ZAIQJmE75vg

[araucaria]

This video is of a psychic who is apparently the same person but who claims to have nothing to do with the video in post #5 (and possibly also the OP). he says his name is not Jacques Nietzermann and he has never been to the US – but that he did predict Chernobyl and wrote to the president.


qUze82BsmDA

Here is a press cutting indicating that a medium called Jacques Nietzermann was arrested near Le Mans after 22 years on the run (presumably for fraud). I have no date or the name of the newspaper, but John Paul II’s visit to Paris (see article underneath) was in August 1997 (or before that in 1980)..
https://imageshack.us/user/fredericmonfils

There are also claims as here (http://enattendant-2012.blogspot.fr/2012/01/1980-un-medium-francais-parle-des.html)that this is a comedian called OLIVIER SIR JOHN or Olivier Thomas

http://www.youhumour.com/humoriste/olivier-sir-john
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xy0dc6_olivier-sir-john-interview_fun

The bottom line is that this seems to be a hoax.

[OMG]

So I'm vacationing in the mountains and Internet connection is unbearably slow when I come across this short video about 5 insane predictions.

First thought was could this be the infamous "alien false flag attack" that was promised to be the last ditch effort from PTB.

We can only pray that such a thing doesn't happen EVER!

I know this could be classified as doom porn but I felt like I should share it for what's it's worth.

iUp-tAytRiE

[Octavusprime]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3018596/

Seems to be a movie clip.

[DeDukshyn]

I don't think that fake alien invasion is quite panning out for them .. I think it has been abandoned or postponed, they have gained a little ground with the "terrorist" tactic lately, and I believe that they will milk that for all it's worth.

But sort of what I am hearing in this is that our "computers" will be used against us - and our "weak point" is our reliance on them ... This sounds like an "attack" on the internet in general, or on communications or energy (electrical grids), which indeed would render most people as useless as they have allowed themselves to become by a lack of ability to be self sustaining and self responsible.

Let's suppose there is an "alien attack" that brings down the eco-political and military constructs, that force us off reliance on our techy toys, and away from our constant bombardment of media propaganda; and forces us to re-integrate with Gaia ... who are the winners and who are the losers?

Just some musing thoughts ... I think we may be safe on the 28th ... yet at the same time I can't help thinking about Bashar's predictions relating to the time between fall of 2015 and fall of 2016 ... "Things will be completely different from what we know ... " -- but of course that doesn't have to mean "alien attack" -- whatever an "alien attack" is ...

[DeDukshyn]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3018596/

Seems to be a movie clip.


That movie came out in 2013 ... here is a thread on the topic and the videos and life of Nietzermann from 2012 and a subsequent discussion on it whether or not this is a hoax ..

EDIT: forgot the link ... http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=221400

[joeecho]

Aren't all attacks, alien?

I mean, who attacks a true friend except in jest?


I know 'aliens' as referred to in this post are of an entity from 'out of this world' but.....

When I see the effects of violent attacks on innocent people in this world, it feels like the perpetrator is something from 'out of this world' (to me).


http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/0f/2c/6b/0f2c6b81a9eacf10a66eeadd51f0cd4c.jpg

[robinr1]

I read this book years ago after watching goodwill hunting....its fantastic...zinn peoples history of the usa





Aren't all attacks, alien?

I mean, who attacks a true friend except in jest?


I know 'aliens' as referred to in this post are of an entity from 'out of this world'?

When I see the effects of violent attacks on innocent people in this world, it feels like the perpetrator is something from 'out of this world' (to me).


http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/0f/2c/6b/0f2c6b81a9eacf10a66eeadd51f0cd4c.jpg

[Octavusprime]

Here is another Avalon thread on this guy:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85187-Jacques-Nietzermann

I think it would be pretty easy to fake this.

¤=[Post Update]=¤



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3018596/

Seems to be a movie clip.


That movie came out in 2013 ... here is a thread on the topic and the videos and life of Nietzermann from 2012 and a subsequent discussion on it whether or not this is a hoax ..

EDIT: forgot the link ... http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=221400

This could all be a publicity stunt. Create a fake prophecy video a year before releasing the mockumentary to create hype.

[DeDukshyn]

Here is another Avalon thread on this guy:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85187-Jacques-Nietzermann

I think it would be pretty easy to fake this.

¤=[Post Update]=¤



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3018596/

Seems to be a movie clip.


That movie came out in 2013 ... here is a thread on the topic and the videos and life of Nietzermann from 2012 and a subsequent discussion on it whether or not this is a hoax ..

EDIT: forgot the link ... http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=221400

This could all be a publicity stunt. Create a fake prophecy video a year before releasing the mockumentary to create hype.

It well could be, I made no indication either way ... but from what I have read, it appears this story was going around well before 2012. If it was a publicity stunt it failed horridly. I don't yet see enough info to write the whole thing off as a movie and it's advertisement, and I don't yet see enough info to consider it genuine either.

ADDITION: here is a thread discussion from 2009 on Nietzermann: http://tinfoilpalace.emp.yuku.com/topic/4488878#.VgDC82eFM6Q

ADDITION 2: On my last link above, the thread posts are all dated 2009, yet the video links were all upload "2012" -- seems suspicious - I used Google to isolate dates prior to 2010 and that came up, but the video links being uploaded 2012 is suspicious ... I suppose it wouldn't be that hard to fake a web pages publication date.

If I find any other interesting clues I will post them.

ADDITION 3: This looks like a good clue here ... the email address used to upload content on Nietzermann is uncannily similar to a website address that belongs to a marketing firm in Quebec - at least as claimed here: https://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Filuminantes.blogspot.ca%2F2012%2F01%2Fvideo-de-jacques-nietzermann-fraude-de.html&anno=2&sandbox=1 NOTE: THIS LINK IS NOW FIXED (sort of) While the website link on that post no longer works I did verify that Happening Marketing uses the format indicated in the post, but now it contains the year as 2015 - not 2012: http://www.hm2015.ca/

Of course this isn't proof of anything but I think we are starting to form a picture from all the tidbits ... I am going to stop here and conclude that it is all marketing for the movie Octavus indicated. It's not that important to me to dig any further.

[Zionbrion]

This video explain it. The guy in the video in question is a french comedian.

DwYkWU5LLEQ

[Innocent Warrior]

The 28th is only six days away, guess we'll find out soon enough.

FYI I put the question out a few days ago, "what are their capabilites regarding staging an ET invasion or religious prophecies?"

I received the answer in a dream. It was a short and intense dream but contained a lot of information, but to summarise the answer, their technology is far more realistic than anything I've seen/imagined. They most certainly have the means and there was an emphasis on how effective it is, on our physical mind/being. I watched a hologram in the sky, one that would appear as a religious prophecy coming true. I was most struck by the terror it evoked from my mind (so big and alien to me), as I watched it, even though I knew it was a hologram. I was made aware that they are fully aware of how it affects the physical mind.

I don't have an opinion either way, about this video, but it does appear to me that some sort of staged event, in our skies, is still on the cards.

[lucidity]

Hello Siblings,

My spider sense is telling me this is a fake.

However, that doesn't mean there isn't going to be a significant
'alien' event in September (or rather, the period Sept to Dec 2015).
There have been many significant alien events in recent years.
But we've only learned about a fraction of them. It's not obvious
to me that that trend will alter between now and dec 2015.

1% psychopathy rate on this planet and yet they seem to arrange
themselves like crystal lattices around the top echelons of military and
political power. Too many psycho thumbs on too many nuke buttons.

These bloody aliens should be doing something more useful with their
time than whizzing around the skies worrying pilots and fascinating IT geeks.
There's no point eternally disabling ICBMs on a global scale. It would be
more efficient to identify the psychos and sterilize them, ....or turn them into
karma junkies .... or get them working on repairing the sewers.
Why not update humans to exhibit less malevolence and narcissism ?
And this financial system needs a redesign. Duh!

Is there no ET diplomat i can send a letter of complain to ?

be happy :-)

lucidity

[Zionbrion]

Also I watched the preview for the move that just came out, it almost felt like a mockumentary. I dunno, I dont wanna pay 4.99$ to rent it though.

[DeDukshyn]

The 28th is only six days away, guess we'll find out soon enough.

FYI I put the question out a few days ago, "what are their capabilites regarding staging an ET invasion or religious prophecies?"

I received the answer in a dream. It was a short and intense dream but contained a lot of information, but to summarise the answer, their technology is far more realistic than anything I've seen/imagined. They most certainly have the means and there was an emphasis on how effective it is, on our physical mind/being. I watched a hologram in the sky, one that would appear as a religious prophecy coming true. I was most struck by the terror it evoked from my mind (so big and alien to me), as I watched it, even though I knew it was a hologram. I was made aware that they are fully aware of how it affects the physical mind.

I don't have an opinion either way, about this video, but it does appear to me that some sort of staged event, in our skies, is still on the cards.

In the early days of the emerging "web" - still when it was mostly all text based (almost 20 years ago), I managed to stumble across some really good detailed info on a fake "religious prophecy" plan (along with other incredibly detailed info on all sorts of stuff -- answers on almost all the questions one might have. The quality of the info as I remember it and the cohesiveness and logic of it far outweighed almost all of the info we get today. I never did recall the websites names or anything, it was all just fascinating late night reading to me.

The detailed plan of the fake religious events was pretty amazing, it went into how all the holographic technology would work, the military's and governments roles, and how it would all pan out. At the time I didn't think too much of it because the tech to me seemed, logical and plausible, but it was far beyond anything I recognized as existing (I didn't, at the time, understand how far advanced military tech really is, yet at the same time I pondered why that for the previous 50 years it seemed that science and tech had been hugely suppressed).

So ... the plan has been around for a while .. apparently. I also miss the clarity and cohesiveness of those things I read back then ... all too hard to come by these days ...

[Octavusprime]

This video explain it. The guy in the video in question is a french comedian.

DwYkWU5LLEQ

So he claims the documentary was in response to the first video of Nietzermann...

Here is another video by the same guy. He says in the end "we ran into some real nasty people along the way, don't look into it too close.". Further hype for the movie?

IQwjXEEbVxY

[betoobig]

The Powers that Used to Be, are desperate. If we don´t see an alien invasion does not mean they have tryed, if we haven´t seen 3 days of darkness it doesn´t mean they haven´t try, if haven´t seen WWIII doesn´t mean they haven´t tryed, if haven´t seen the destruction of earth by CERN it doesn´t mean they are trying.....
I think we are witnessing a force higher than us working on our side, for example taking care of all nuclear bombs and nuclear plants (but Fukushima)....
We may see something significant on the 28th, time is about to tell, but i don´t think that will be what TPUB want us to see.
I pray for the end of this take down on humanity which has lasted way too long.
Love...evol

[Ewan]

I received the answer in a dream. It was a short and intense dream but contained a lot of information, but to summarise the answer, their technology is far more realistic than anything I've seen/imagined. They most certainly have the means and there was an emphasis on how effective it is, on our physical mind/being. I watched a hologram in the sky, one that would appear as a religious prophecy coming true. I was most struck by the terror it evoked from my mind (so big and alien to me), as I watched it, even though I knew it was a hologram. I was made aware that they are fully aware of how it affects the physical mind.



That got me thinking for a while. When we sit watching a modern movie with all the special effects it can look very realistic if you are drawn into the story and not sitting there in critic mode.

When we move about in our day to day existence we are not too dissimilar to an ant on a sheet of paper. Yes, we have an awareness of 3D thanks to our binocular vision and the play of light and shadows, but that 3D extends miles upwards into the skies producing a hemispherical dome above us.

You mentioned the technology available and I pictured the sky playing out a movie with all the detail you could imagine, the sound, the light. It would certainly be effective. Even if you could tell yourself this is not real it would prove problematic to the psyche, and the vast majority, I fear, would not even hesitate to doubt.

Were such an event to take place the proof of the illusion may well lie in how quickly the world's 'governments' reach consensus on a plan of action. Look how quickly America pushed through sweeping changes following 9/11. A quick consensus and rapid acceptance of 'necessary measures' would surely be manufactured and planned, for in reality such an event would create chaos and division as people hotly debated upon solutions or actions.

[M0JFK]

I am sure Windows 10 is the attack on civilisation...worst thing I have ever put on my laptop. I for one would be grateful for a real alien invasion if it only gives us a decent operating system for our PC's.

[Bill Ryan]

.
Thanks for the quick ID that this is not a real psychic prediction. :)

I took the liberty of changing the thread title to

'Mockumentary' video claims to predict an 'alien attack', September 28, 2015

[Megrubbieswet]

I feel though what will happen will not be negative, the malevolence will be effectively crushed. ITS NOT THE END, ITS THE BEGINNING. I feel though these times are shining right through me, I'm so HONORED AND GLAD TO BE BORN IN THIS ERA. ITS ONE OF THE CRAZIEST ERAS TO BE IN! + I HAVE SO MUCH MORE TO WORK ON, IVE BEEN SO SLACK.. But have come so far still... Theres more and more and more, we have to keep going! We will rebuild! To all the fraudulent ill willed tyrannic scum bags which have been getting away with ill willed treatment of the innocence. Your time is now over, to a new beginning!

[Kryztian]

I was duped by the "Mermaids" mockumentary, and now this. Yes, I think it is, indeed a hoax. Here's my path of confusion and enlightenment.

I saw a "Nietzermann" video and started googling him, trying to see if anyone investigated him. I found an October 2012 Youtube video by user "Luke Andmack" called "The Nietzermann Case - Episode 1" where two guys, Luke and Matt investigate Nietzermann, looking into video quality if it is authentic 1980s technology, details of objects in the video, e-mails they receive , etc. This goes up to Episode 8, although episodes 6 & 7 are missing from Youtube. They start to receive e-mails from someone involved in the case and finally one claiming to be Nietzerman himself. There are also a few recent videos (2015) on the "Luke Andmack" channel, where they discuss the "newly found" September 28th prediction. At one point they claim they have to give up the investigation because they are receiving too much interference and harassment.

bYiOpDVFhK4

Luke and Matt were analyzing the Nietzermann videos, I decided to analyze the Luke and Matt videos and here is what I found:


The video editing (close ups on their facial expressions, video editing ) and the lighting is just too good for a home made investigatory movie. Perhaps they used makeup too because I did not see an uncomplementary shots of their skin.
Luke and Matt are not just ordinary people, they look like actors trying to play ordinary people. Nice teeth, good facial bone structure, nice skin.
Their gestures, their timing, their delivery are all too perfect - good acting guys!
It is scripted - the way the story unfolds and the intensity and mystery grows.
When we plans to investigate a mystery, you don't know if you will find the answer in 5 minutes or 5 decades, but they were clearly certain on Episode 1 that this would unfold on a weekly basis, so tune in.


Conclusion: Nietzerman is not only a hoax, but Luke and Matt are part of the same hoax. I don't know if there is actually going to be a Nietzermann mocumentary, but their series of Youtube videos of both Nietzermann "in the 1980s" and of their investigation of him are indeed a clever and entertaining work of fiction.

Thanks for a good laugh guys!

[provolon]

I rented the video.. mostly they are all actors.. to sell the movie? I don't know.. but it was a good movie I was/am not sure that all is fake

[OMG]

.
Thanks for the quick ID that this is not a real psychic prediction. :)

I took the liberty of changing the thread title to

'Mockumentary' video claims to predict an 'alien attack', September 28, 2015

I'm still in mountains and can't get video. Can someone explain why the original video I posted is a fake and how it's related to the "movie" people are talking about. I'm kinda lost here...

Thanks

[DeDukshyn]

.
Thanks for the quick ID that this is not a real psychic prediction. :)

I took the liberty of changing the thread title to

'Mockumentary' video claims to predict an 'alien attack', September 28, 2015

I'm still in mountains and can't get video. Can someone explain why the original video I posted is a fake and how it's related to the "movie" people are talking about. I'm kinda lost here...

Thanks

A lot of the evidence is pointing to a probability that the video you posted, as well as various other tidbits on the web on Nietzerman was released to create hype for the movie.

1) The movie is dated 2013 on IMDB - it appears this was to be the original release date of this movie, but for whatever reason the release was delayed.

2) Octavus suggested that the video you posted may have been released one year earlier, 2012, to create hype for the movie ... I looked into this claim.

3) I did thorough research into info on Nietzerman and the timelines of info release, and found that nothing on him existed prior to 2012, which fits the theory Octavus initially presented.

4) I did find a forum thread with posts dated 2009, and discussions on Neitzerman's predictions about 2012 (real / hoax? etc.) yet at the same time, when I clicked all the video links posted in the posts on that thread, every single one of them was uploaded to youtube in 2012. How can a thread dated 2009 have a it's video links only uploaded in 2012? This indicates that the 2009 date for those posts was wrong, and adds suspicion. It seems to appear as though someone wanted us to believe that info on Nietzerman was available before 2012 -- if the story is true, surely there would be prior 2012 results ... I search hard, found none, and found what appeared to be deception regarding the longevity of the story. (links in my previous post)

5) I found a Spanish thread on Nietzerman, claiming the whole thing was marketing. Someone examined the email address used for uploading Nietzerman content, and linked it to a Quebec marketing firm called "Happening Marketing". I was able to verify the existence of such a firm in Quebec; I posted a link to this thread as well.

6) the movie is finally released in September 2015 ... interestingly another wave of "nietzerman" prophecy hits all the alternative sites just a month or so before the actual postponed movie launch date ... again leading to suspicion that this is marketing for the movie.

7) Kryztians post on this thread (previous page - which I missed, but makes the shoe fit even better)

As far as it looks, it's all marketing for the movie.

(Edited after I saw Kryztian's post)

[mojo]

An alien attack through our computers?

WDfpmEdZcw8

[Bill Ryan]

An alien attack through our computers?

WDfpmEdZcw8


Merged with an existing thread... I'm afraid (or maybe we should be thankful!) that this video isn't real. :)

[mojo]

Thank you Bill for catching that...

[Kryztian]

As many of you may remember from September, there was a thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85425-Mockumentary-video-claims-to-predict-an-alien-attack-September-28-2015&p=1001775) about psychic Jacque Nietzerman, whose "1980s" videos started appearing on Youtube in 2012 and then a few more appeared this year. And then, those of us who started googling "Nietzerman" discovered the "investigations" of Mac and Luc. Here is the back story of Will G. Kraft who made the original "Nietzerman" movie in 2012, which went viral beyond expectation. He then developed Nietzermann into a movie recently and, "by coincidence", another old Nietzerman video emerges, predicting the alien takeover of our computers on September 24, 2015. (begins at minute 32)

MHUm_eeIkeQ

Kraft's comes forward to show us the anatomy of creating a hoax and why it worked. This should give us some insight into how those who pass through the halls of the CIA, MI6, and other intelligence agencies, create the big hoaxes - the ones that last for decades and that keep humanity in a fog.

A couple of principle I gleaned from this:


- create both sides of the argument - here, the case for belief and disbelief. Kraft created both the Nietzerman videos and the "Luke and Mac" videos debunking it. Onces the debunkers give in and believe, there is no resistance.

- a flood of information will drown up the truth. In 2012, someone notice the reflection in a window of a lighting fixture that was clearly 21st century and posted the info on the internet. Kraft thought that his hoax had been unveiled and he would have to call it quits. Fortunately for him, there were so many competing ideas, bad ones, that were getting discussed much more frequently, no one notice the piece of true insight which was drowned out by stupidity.

Apparently, there are those who are quite angry at Kraft, but I feel grateful to him for giving us a learning experience, and perhaps a good laugh too.

[ThePythonicCow]

It just so happens that our newest member on Avalon is Will G Kraft (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?28657-WillGKraft).

[ThePythonicCow]

As many of you may remember from September, there was a thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85425-Mockumentary-video-claims-to-predict-an-alien-attack-September-28-2015&p=1001775) about psychic Jacque Nietzerman,
One other Avalon thread, besides the one linked above, on these Nietzerman videos: Jacques Nietzermann (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85187-Jacques-Nietzermann)

[WillGKraft]

Hello world!

My name is Will G Kraft and I created Jacques Nietzermann (Yes it's all fake). Thank you for all the efforts you put in debunking it.

I've already answered many questions in the radio show, but if some things are still unclear, please ask!

Will

[WillGKraft]

Hi everyone!
My name is Will G Kraft and I created Jacques Nietzermann (Yes it's all fake). Thank you for all the efforts you put in debunking it. Some really good insights there!

I've already answered many questions in the radio show, but if some things are still unclear, please ask!

Will

[WillGKraft]

Hi everyone!

My name is Will G Kraft and I created Jacques Nietzermann (Yes it's all fake). Thank you for all the efforts you put in debunking it.
I've already answered many questions in the radio show, but if some things are still unclear, please ask!

Will

[Flash]

Why and how did you decide to come in the open Will - I was going to write "out of the closet" lol?

What make you decide to publish such a hoax, and hold it over time?

Was an idea of views and the money involved (to do it and to collect) a factor? How much in, how much out?

What about all those naive people who did not sleep at night, mostly on Sept 28, how do you feel about this?

Do you think there is karma involved in promoting fear?

What do you think about the analysis avalon member did here?

And while we are on it, why did you subcribe a membership here?

Finally, thank you for "coming out" and showing us how easy it is to fool the masses.


Hi everyone!
My name is Will G Kraft and I created Jacques Nietzermann (Yes it's all fake). Thank you for all the efforts you put in debunking it. Some really good insights there!

I've already answered many questions in the radio show, but if some things are still unclear, please ask!

Will

[Flash]

mods, shouldn't we put both thread together, Nietzermann and Mockumentary?


Hi everyone!

My name is Will G Kraft and I created Jacques Nietzermann (Yes it's all fake). Thank you for all the efforts you put in debunking it.
I've already answered many questions in the radio show, but if some things are still unclear, please ask!

Will

[DeDukshyn]

Hi everyone!
My name is Will G Kraft and I created Jacques Nietzermann (Yes it's all fake). ...

Will

Well ... Welcome to Avalon! :)

[Bill Ryan]

mods, shouldn't we put both thread together, Nietzermann and Mockumentary?


Hi everyone!

My name is Will G Kraft and I created Jacques Nietzermann (Yes it's all fake). Thank you for all the efforts you put in debunking it.
I've already answered many questions in the radio show, but if some things are still unclear, please ask!

Will

All three threads merged, and the title changed to The Jacques Nietzermann hoax.

[Bill Ryan]

.
My own questions to Will Kraft:

1) Why did you knowingly create a hoax? Please reply honestly and without hubris. While it'd been very clear for a while that it was indeed all faked, in your post above I have to say that you come across as being seemingly rather proud of it.

That may not endear you to many in the alternative community — who have been lied to, played with, and deceived by way too many people for way too long. There will still be many thousands out there who are still believing all this is real.

Which leads to

2) Why didn't you use your evident skills and ability to make a documentary about the truth?

[Tangri]

.
My own questions to Will Kraft:

1) Why did you knowingly create a hoax? Please reply honestly and without hubris. While it'd been very clear for a while that it was indeed all faked, in your post above I have to say that you come across as being seemingly rather proud of it.

That may not endear you to many in the alternative community — who have been lied to, played with, and deceived by way too many people for way too long. There will still be many thousands out there who are still believing all this is real.

Which leads to

2) Why didn't you use your evident skills and ability to make a documentary about the truth?

I do not want to suppress Will Karaft's respond these questions but I felt have to write my answer as an obvious logic from a regular folk.

1-) Did you ask same question to Daniel Myrick and Eduardo Sanchez and 250 million people why they did watch that crap?

2-)Do you know how many jobless screen writers waiting on the bench at cold days in Toronto and Montreal to be discovered by Big brother's Hollywood.
Do you know how many application received at Toronto Film festival at documentary
level and they never saw the the short list?
In reality , A Documentary on truth subject does not bring food to the table.
If a person looking carrier on entertainment businesses, His/her code of ethic does not match with mass's expectation.
This is my own humble opinion as a regular folk.

http://www.meetup.com/screenwriters-240/

http://www.meetup.com/Toronto-Writers-Group/

[Atlas]

SC21aRNeBqQ
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zP5JpWs5Ag4/T5IhamEJOGI/AAAAAAAADos/jDBxbCu8T7s/s1600/jaques+dedo.jpg
gUvXkyZc_Wg
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/471x631q90/37/capturedcran20120113133.png

4 years ago, a French guy said that Jacques killed his uncle and that he has the original court documents from the time it happened:



Hello,

I am XXX XXXX , allow me to intervene in place to give you the information, because they do not want to hear more of "nonsense" in this story:

This man named Jacques Nietzermann. It's French.
Sentenced in 1958 to a term of 45 years for murder, impossible to find because it was in fuga.Encontrado in his native region, in France, 22 years later, he was arrested and then imprisoned to make his sentence 45 years . He lived in the Sarthe (dep 72) like me.
He made ​​several victims. He killed my uncle.
I think have been quite clear.
What this video comes so impresses me and heard, was known for his visions of the future!
This guy should have today 72 years , but had to be released.
I have selected a file with the documentation of the time with the trial.
I assure you that this duty swells me to talk about all this.
Where I can post here the documents ?
What is the process?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--F9s5nVHYO4/TygbCAF25iI/AAAAAAAAAV0/KTJMHyTr8JY/s400/2carta.JPG
Source: http://universoinfinito11.blogspot.com.au/2012/01/respuesta-de-herbert-marlowe-su-video.html
----------------------------------------------------

E-mail Reply from the YouTube publisher
Posted in 2012 by Martintruther.com:

I wrote to the e-mail address at the end of the video asking for more info and received this reply:


"Hi,

As you can imagine, I've received many new e-mails. Sorry again for this blanket answer.

I didn't want my personal e-mail address posted on Youtube, so I put up a new one I created from my initials. This has nothing to do with any marketing company, or competition.

I digitized the original footage - from U-matic, - and added subtitles to it. A French friend of mine did the translation. I didn't make any cuts to the material. What you see is everything that was on the tape.

From what the guy was saying, I guessed the shooting year and I added "1980" in the frame corner.

I was really disturbed when I first saw this footage. I posted it on YouTube in the hopes of learning more about the man claiming to be the psychic. I didn't expect to have so many angry reactions.

I don't know who this guy is or was. I'm very anxious to know more. It's important to me, but I'd rather not get into that.

The two leads I found in the posts:

- Someone posted a screenshot on aufeminin.com which supposedly shows the same psychic in the audience of "L'Heure de Verite", a French TV show presented by Francois-Henri de Virieu in the 80's. The person who posted it didn't say which video it was from - it might be a load of Bull... anyway it doesn't give us the identity of the psychic, since he's just in the audience.

- Someone said the man was Albert Florintie but nobody found anything on him.

I've decided to remain anonymous here.

I am not willing to share how I got my hands on the original tape. If you'd rather believe I made it myself, that's fine too - and probably more reassuring.

Personally, I give far more credibility to this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4VuAeUO6yI

2012 will be just like any other year.

I don't believe in psychics.
I don't believe in aliens.

Have a great 2012… and 2013!

Peace,

HM

PS: In answer to the many technical questions: the original footage was on a 3/4" U-matic tape which I digitized to FinalCutPro in HD through a MNR11 noise reducer. I re-EQ'd the soundtrack, added the subtitles and the "1980" in HD on FinalCutPro, exported it in HD and uploaded it to YouTube - that's actually my day job.
Source: https://www.facebook.com/notes/martin-truther/e-mail-reply-from-the-youtube-publisher-of-the-psychics-predictions-for-2012-fro/10151144557050468

[Nasu]

Hi everyone!

My name is Will G Kraft and I created Jacques Nietzermann (Yes it's all fake). Thank you for all the efforts you put in debunking it.
I've already answered many questions in the radio show, but if some things are still unclear, please ask!

Will

Welcome to the forum. I understand some will be angry at your fakery, for good reason, we have all been lied to far too much. However, that being said, well done done, what a cool mystery you weaved, if you don't mind, like others I am sure I would love to hear how you did it so well, then got it to catch fire like that, very impressive. I take my hat off to you, if you did do it of course...

Did I ever tell you about me being the capo of anonymous? Or the time Mr Sino and I cavorted about "dune surfing" down a vast mountain of money....???

So, in good faith, now that you have claimed this, can you please tell us about it? Many thanks in advance.... N

[WillGKraft]

Hi Everyone,

Thank you for all your questions about Nietzermann. I was expecting some bitterness too, and some of you are expressing it.

First of all most of the questions you ask are answered in the Jimmy Church radio show, and you can find it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHUm_eeIkeQ
The actual itw starts at minute 32.

Questions 1 from Bill Ryan:
Why did you knowingly create a hoax? Please reply honestly and without hubris. While it'd been very clear for a while that it was indeed all faked, in your post above I have to say that you come across as being seemingly rather proud of it.

That may not endear you to many in the alternative community — who have been lied to, played with, and deceived by way too many people for way too long. There will still be many thousands out there who are still believing all this is real.

My answer: First of all I've been following very closely what's being said about Nietzermann ans there are not "many thousands" who are still believing Nietzermann was an actual psychic who gave some interviews in the 80's. Only a few people that' I'n now trying to convince otherwise.

About the fact I was knowingly creating a hoax, I had no idea when we shot the 2012 itw that it would go viral like this. We thought we'd put it online, have a few thousands views and then reveal it was fake. But the thing became so big so rapidly that I thought I could feed the fire with the investigation from Luke and Mack, and then the movie. Why? I loved the debate, and really, seeing so many people arguing about the authenticity of the video was very fascinating - for me AND for you guys. Most people didn't believe that the video was authentic but which evidence was actually debunking it animated the whole debate. And one thing seems obvious, on many sites like this one (the alternative community" as you cll it) love this game, love to argue, love to debate -- and love to hate hoaxers. Basically I created a puzzle and I tried to make it as difficult as I could. So it was a game for me, but for you guys too.

Questions 2 from Bill Ryan:
Why didn't you use your evident skills and ability to make a documentary about the truth?

My answer: I wrote, directed and/or produced many real documentaries before on different topics. The movie Nietzermann is my first mockumentary. Now I'm not sure if you're asking why I didn't make a documentary about the truth about Nietzermann. If this is your question, my answer would be that not enough people was interested in Nietzermann itself. But I could be considering a documentary about collective intelligence and online collaboration using examples from Nietzermann. I learnt a lot about online behavior while doing this.

I'll try to answer all your questions, but again, most of them are answered in the radio show (link above).

[WillGKraft]

Hi everyone!

Will

Welcome to the forum. I understand some will be angry at your fakery, for good reason, we have all been lied to far too much. However, that being said, well done done, what a cool mystery you weaved, if you don't mind, like others I am sure I would love to hear how you did it so well, then got it to catch fire like that, very impressive. I take my hat off to you, if you did do it of course...

Did I ever tell you about me being the capo of anonymous? Or the time Mr Sino and I cavorted about "dune surfing" down a vast mountain of money....???

So, in good faith, now that you have claimed this, can you please tell us about it? Many thanks in advance.... N

Thank you Nasu for your words of appreciation. I refer you the the previous post I just sent where I share a link to a radio show where I explain in detail "how I did it"! And yes, I understand why you would doubt that I did it, why would you believe anyone about this? Well, you can see my face with a beard on the poster of the radio show... and you can see my face with no beard in the Nietzermann movie (While shooting the first Luke and Mack episode and one close up looking into the camera in the airplane).

[Nasu]

P


Hi everyone!

Will

Welcome to the forum. I understand some will be angry at your fakery, for good reason, we have all been lied to far too much. However, that being said, well done done, what a cool mystery you weaved, if you don't mind, like others I am sure I would love to hear how you did it so well, then got it to catch fire like that, very impressive. I take my hat off to you, if you did do it of course...

Did I ever tell you about me being the capo of anonymous? Or the time Mr Sino and I cavorted about "dune surfing" down a vast mountain of money....???

So, in good faith, now that you have claimed this, can you please tell us about it? Many thanks in advance.... N

Thank you Nasu for your words of appreciation. I refer you the the previous post I just sent where I share a link to a radio show where I explain in detail "how I did it"! And yes, I understand why you would doubt that I did it, why would you believe anyone about this? Well, you can see my face with a beard on the poster of the radio show... and you can see my face with no beard in the Nietzermann movie (While shooting the first Luke and Mack episode and one close up looking into the camera in the airplane).

Thanks for your reply. I for one am impressed, you had quite a buzz going for a while. I think the ambiguity helped a lot, but I would like to say what a great job you did. So why come out about it, now, why not let it snowball or morph into something else, why end the game???... N

[WillGKraft]

Thank you Nasu! We shot the 2012 prophecy in 2010. This means I've been hiding the truth about this for 5 years now. A lot of work has been put into this, especially to make the movie. A good story deserves a nice ending and the movie was that ending. By revealing the truth, everyone can see what they got right and what they got wrong. I guess this is satisfying. Things like: No there was no iPhone behind Nietzermann in the first video, it was a cassette player. No it wasn't shot in HD. Yes, it's a Chimera softbox light you see reflecting in Nietzermann's glasses and these lights didn't exist in the 80s (that was an excellent find!)... this is why I offer to answer all questions.

Also it's interesting to see how something like that can spread, and we could wonder how a group investigation could be more efficient.

WGK

[Atlas]

http://www.wealthwisemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Mystery-solved-620x340.jpg