9/11 Trillions: Follow The Money (James Corbett)

[ThePythonicCow]

James Corbett, of the CorbettReport.com (http://CorbettReport.com), presents 9/11 Trillions: Follow The Money:
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Forget for one moment everything you've been told about September 11, 2001. 9/11 was a crime. And as with any crime, there is one overriding imperative that detectives must follow to identify the perpetrators: follow the money. This is an investigation of the 9/11 money trail.

[ThePythonicCow]

The above Corbett Report confirms that financial activity and monitoring of high level US corporations and secret government agencies was handled by Ptech and Mitre. The work of Rebekah Roth, in her second book, Methodical Deception (http://www.methodicaldeception.com/) just out, also calls out Mitre. As Bill Ryan noted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85175-14th-Anniversary-9-11-questions&p=997941&viewfull=1#post997941) earlier today, he will soon be publishing an interview that he recently did of Rebekah.

[WhiteLove]

Awesome share Paul!!

[Wide-Eyed]

Excellent report follow the $$$ indeed, thanks. Is Corbett a PA member? Great work. :Music:

[ThePythonicCow]

Excellent report follow the $$$ indeed, thanks. Is Corbett a PA member? Great work. :Music:

James Corbett is not a member of Project Avalon.

[PurpleLama]

Here is the link to the mp3 version (http://www.corbettreport.com/mp3/episode308_911_trillions.mp3).

[Lone Bean]

I really have a LOT of respect for Mr. Corbett. He comes across as very skeptical of spiritualistic type topics so I am not surprised he would not be a member here.

[ThePythonicCow]

... so I am not surprised he would not be a member here.
My intuition is that it's not so much that Corbett wouldn't want to be a member here, but that he's not active as a member on other forums much at all. He drives his own research, productions and website. He has also stated that membership is an opportunity to support his site, if you want to, but is not a "paywall" to substantially more material - just a newsletter and monthly video.

[observer]

Thank you for starting this thread, Paul.

I'm posting an additional video to this thread, because it is a continuing trail of evidence to the one Paul posted.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdE1Cwnymzc

The "911-Conspiracy Finally Solved!" Video has been around for a while, my copy was published in November of 2012. I've had it in my library for several years, so many of the members may have seen it already.

Much of what is in Corbett's report is duplicated in this "Finally Solved" Video. It is unconscionable that this information has been public for so many years, yet nothing has been done. Perhaps Corbett's video might rustle some bushes - no pun intended. ;)

My apologies to those members who regularly complain about posting hours of videos, but there's no easy way to show all of the evidence without such video psoting, or researching thousands of pages of books.

[ThePythonicCow]

Thank you for starting this thread, Paul.

I'm posting an additional video to this thread, because it is a continuing trail of evidence to the one Paul posted.
That video also seems to accept the idea of planes hitting buildings and thermite taking them down. It also seems to soft pedal Israeli involvement, providing us with many details of US companies and individuals instead ...

It may serve better as a limited hangout and a distraction of too many details, that tends to keep those who haven't abandoned their conventional 9/11 views "in the fold".

We deal in a difficult propaganda terrain, and our enemy in this battle is skilled in that terrain.

[observer]

[....snip]

That video also seems to accept the idea of planes hitting buildings and thermite taking them down. It also seems to soft pedal Israeli involvement, providing us with many details of US companies and individuals instead ...

It may serve better as a limited hangout and a distraction of too many details, that tends to keep those who haven't abandoned their conventional 9/11 views "in the fold".

We deal in a difficult propaganda terrain, and our enemy in this battle is skilled in that terrain.

So Paul, are you suggesting that planes didn't hit the World Trade Buildings? Because that's how your comment reads to me. The evidence objectively shows that planes did hit the structures - just not the planes that were reported to be involved.

I think anyone who watches the entire video will come away with a much more comprehensive understanding - beyond the Corbett Report. Corbett doesn't even get into the Bush related "Project Hammer" securities that were due to mature just after 9/11.

Corbett doesn't go into nearly as much detail with the interconnections of the principal's involved in the companies overshadowing the 9/11 event.

Dr. Judy Wood's work is unquestionable regarding the use of a high energy weapon, but there is also undisputable evidence for thermite being involved as well, in the documented thermite residue, and additionally in the connection to thermite and the fireproofing that was used on specific floors.

It's hard for me to understand how anyone can discount what is being documented in the "Finally Solved" Video as disinformation.


"It also seems to soft pedal Israeli involvement, providing us with many details of US companies and individuals instead ..."

Keep in mind the video was produced in November of 2012, almost three years ago. After watching the Corbett Report, I recognized much of what Corbett was reporting as information in the "Finally Solved" video.

Sorry to contradict your opinion, Paul, but I would suggest any of the members watch the "Finally Solved" work and decide for themselves.

[ghostrider]

Sept 10th 2001 the government announces they are unable to track 2.3 trillion dollars , the next day the place where the records are kept is blown up ... co-inkidink ??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aljgYENg--Y

[ThePythonicCow]

[....snip]

That video also seems to accept the idea of planes hitting buildings and thermite taking them down. It also seems to soft pedal Israeli involvement, providing us with many details of US companies and individuals instead ...

It may serve better as a limited hangout and a distraction of too many details, that tends to keep those who haven't abandoned their conventional 9/11 views "in the fold".

We deal in a difficult propaganda terrain, and our enemy in this battle is skilled in that terrain.

So Paul, are you suggesting that planes didn't hit the World Trade Buildings? Because that's what your comment reads like to me. The evidence objectively shows that planes did hit the structures - just not the planes that were reported to be involved.
I am suggesting that no Boeing 737, 757, or 767 airframe, whether commercial passenger airliner or tanker, hit the towers. As John Lear has explained to us, those airframes can't travel that fast, at sea level. Their stock engines are not strong enough to push that much air aside, and if you put on stronger engines or rocket assists, or some how else got them up to that speed, the wings would be ripped off.

Also, as Rebekah Roth observes, aluminum wings on commercial airlines don't slice holes into major structural steel walls, Road Runner style, disappearing without a trace inside the building. When major steel encounters the lightweight aluminum wings at a few hundred miles per hour, both might take a beating, but the aluminum is the big loser, not the steel.

We have various videos of what appear to be large airframes hitting the south tower, and two or three low resolution videos of the first hit on the north tower. I don't know how those videos, and/or whatever they might show, came to be. But they are a major deception, somehow.

The almost instantaneous eruptions of huge fireballs are also almost certainly "special effects".

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But ... I am especially suggesting that exactly the sort of back and forth discussion that you just got me to engage in is exactly the sort of distraction from "the rest of the story" that explain why such discussions (was it really a plane?) have been tolerated for a decade now.

P.S. ... You didn't have to work very hard to engage me in this ... I've been doing just such with enthusiasm for almost a decade now <grin>.

[Zionbrion]

Paul, just came across this video, tnat may just prove your point...it would put an end to the distraction to the back and forth discussion if it is real.
P3NtaDC_ZEo

[onawah]

I'm no expert on this subject, though I've spent days researching it online, watching videos, reading the evidence, etc. and the thing that still sticks with me is what I thought immediately when seeing the footage on TV live on 911 when it was happening, that those weren't planes hitting the buildings,, they were holographic images of planes.

[phillipbbg]

after watching Corbets report watch the first episode of Mr Robot pay especial attention to the logo of Evil Cor in the show it is all so connected

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQR5dL-RuYo

[KiwiElf]

Well, these Black Project underground bases and advanced ARV (Alien Reversed Technology) vehicles cost a "bit". No wonder the USA is broke! ;)

[Cidersomerset]

Interesting article just made me think about all this ' 9/11 , ISIS etc we know
its agenda being played out over the last two decades or at least since the end
of the cold war and the New American century meme which include Israel and
possibly the Anglo Saxon mission that Bill did a video on. There is lots that can
be said Why is Israel not been attacked by Al Q, ISIS , ICIL etc. We know why
in the alternate community . I know the mainstream media is controlled , but
as the dancing Israelis on 9/11. Quo Bono ? Who benefits most out of the
Balkanisation of the Middle East ?

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FBI says ‘Australian ISIS jihadist’ is actually a Jewish American troll named Joshua Ryne Goldberg

By David Icke on 12th September 2015 Political Manipulation, Problem-Reaction-Solution, War and Terror

http://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/1442007459916.jpg

‘A young Jewish American man has been charged with pretending to be an
Australian-based Islamic State jihadist after a FBI joint investigation with the
Australian Federal Police based on information provided by Fairfax Media.

Joshua Ryne Goldberg, a 20-year old living at his parents’ house in US state of
Florida, is accused of posing online as “Australi Witness,” an IS supporter who
publicly called for a series of attacks against individuals and events in western
countries.

In recent days Australi Witness has claimed online that he is working with other
jihadists to plan attacks in Australia and the United States. He distributed pictures
of a bomb that he was working on with “2 lbs of explosives inside”.’

Read more: FBI says ‘Australian ISIS jihadist’ is actually a Jewish American troll named Joshua Ryne Goldberg

http://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-is-jihadist-is-actually-an-jewish-american-troll-20150911-gjk852.html

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http://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Untitled9.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83012---BBC-covering-up-the-truth-on-9-11--......-......Face-to-Face-Kevin-Barrett-talks-about-9-11-truth

[idiit]

I like fetzer's analysis the best. linked is what I consider a great source of information on the topic:


Friday, September 11, 2015





James H. Fetzer: Mossad Played a Crucial Role in 9/11 Attacks



by
Jim Fetzer
Here is an interview (transcript included) conducted this week on "Truth vs. NEW$" that provides further substantiation for the claims that I advanced during my 9/11 interview with IRAN REVIEW (13 September 2013):

http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2015/09/james-h-fetzer-mossad-played-crucial.html

[AlaBil]

I like fetzer's analysis the best. linked is what I consider a great source of information on the topic:


Friday, September 11, 2015





James H. Fetzer: Mossad Played a Crucial Role in 9/11 Attacks



by
Jim Fetzer
Here is an interview (transcript included) conducted this week on "Truth vs. NEW$" that provides further substantiation for the claims that I advanced during my 9/11 interview with IRAN REVIEW (13 September 2013):

http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2015/09/james-h-fetzer-mossad-played-crucial.html

idiit... Great link to Fetzer's site and interview. The interview is filled with information and resources about 9/11 and the various factions. thanks a bunch for the link.

[observer]

Just to clarify, and get this thread back on track, the "Finally Solved (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85192-9-11-Trillions-Follow-The-Money--James-Corbett-&p=998153&viewfull=1#post998153)" Video was not presented as any sort of “distraction of too many details”. Additionally, it was not presented to engage this thread in a debate over airplanes. Airplanes were used as a point of reference by another member in an attempt to discredit the "Finally Solved" video as disinformation. That prompted my reply #11 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85192-9-11-Trillions-Follow-The-Money--James-Corbett-&p=998173&viewfull=1#post998173). [The "Finally Solved" Video had little to do with airplanes, and was produced at a point in time when not nearly as much information regarding the possibility of alternate hypothesis was available.]

I couldn’t be concerned with what brought-down the World Trade Center. If asked, my opinion would include a mind-controlled mass hypnosis attack centered on the AWACS Command and Control airplane that was spotted over the incident. For all any of us know, it’s possible 9/11 could have been a controlled distortion in the hologram that is this particular reality – but I’m well aware, many of the members don’t buy that one either.

The only purpose for posting that "Finally Solved" video, was to show that Corbett 'sourced' much of what he reported from that three year old video; in many cases almost directly quoted.

The "Finally Solved" video is three years old, and as I stated in my Comment #9, "It is unconscionable that this information has been public for so many years, yet nothing has been done. Perhaps Corbett's video might rustle some bushes - no pun intended. ;) "

Airplanes, or how the World Trade Center was brought-down has nothing to do with the extremely relevant information in the "Finally Solved" Video. All omitted from Corbett's Report - hardly a distraction.

Overlook the part about airplanes in that video, but look at all the interconnection of the principal characters, and don't neglect all the additional financial details the Corbett Report failed to cover.

I should additionally point-out, not one reference of Israel's involvement was mentioned in Corbett's report, either.

[heyokah]

Thank you for starting this thread, Paul.

I'm posting an additional video to this thread, because it is a continuing trail of evidence to the one Paul posted.

That video also seems to accept the idea of planes hitting buildings and thermite taking them down. It also seems to soft pedal Israeli involvement, providing us with many details of US companies and individuals instead ...

It may serve better as a limited hangout and a distraction of too many details, that tends to keep those who haven't abandoned their conventional 9/11 views "in the fold".

We deal in a difficult propaganda terrain, and our enemy in this battle is skilled in that terrain.


P.S. ... You didn't have to work very hard to engage me in this ... I've been doing just such with enthusiasm for almost a decade now <grin>.

Paul, I didn't know men could have that "time of the month" mood as well. <grin>

This video has been one of my favorites for a long time and it doesn't deserve to be discredited by you the way you did. :nono:
Although, that new Corbett one isn't bad either. :wink:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdE1Cwnymzc

[Hazelfern]

Paul, just came across this video, tnat may just prove your point...it would put an end to the distraction to the back and forth discussion if it is real.
P3NtaDC_ZEo

Great video!!!! You have to watch it on YouTube - worth the extra click.

[ThePythonicCow]

Paul, I didn't know men could have that "time of the month" mood as well. <grin>
Especially men over 60 ... shouldn't we be post-menopause by now <grin>.

[avid]

I am desperately trying to find the 'no planes' discussion with John Lear et al from our first 'iteration'. That was so clear, and proven (to me anyway), that video trickery was used, the major media were involved (ie BBC), there were really stupid faults with the video fakes, and the Pentagon fiasco was a ridiculous nonsense. Were all our minds sent 'blurry', as I read this potentiality in the online book posted here today by Ingo Swann (thanks Carmody)
?
Today, I have read a whole book from here, been in the depths of Romania in secret ancient installations, in fact - I've done nothing but learn again, connected loads of even more 'dots', cleaned the kitchen window, fed my daft cat Atom, and am back here for MORE! Switch your TV off, this is better than any 'news' media👍

[idiit]

Wednesday, May 20, 2015

Planes/No Planes and "Video Fakery"
By
Jim Fetzer
http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2015/05/planesno-planes-and-video-fakery.html

fetzer's awesome. give him a try. :)

[avid]

I wanted to go back to original archive, with even more amazing members who blew our cobwebs off! 😃

[cursichella1]

[....snip]

That video also seems to accept the idea of planes hitting buildings and thermite taking them down. It also seems to soft pedal Israeli involvement, providing us with many details of US companies and individuals instead ...

It may serve better as a limited hangout and a distraction of too many details, that tends to keep those who haven't abandoned their conventional 9/11 views "in the fold".

We deal in a difficult propaganda terrain, and our enemy in this battle is skilled in that terrain.

So Paul, are you suggesting that planes didn't hit the World Trade Buildings? Because that's what your comment reads like to me. The evidence objectively shows that planes did hit the structures - just not the planes that were reported to be involved.

===

But ... I am especially suggesting that exactly the sort of back and forth discussion that you just got me to engage in is exactly the sort of distraction from "the rest of the story" that explain why such discussions (was it really a plane?) have been tolerated for a decade now.

P.S. ... You didn't have to work very hard to engage me in this ... I've been doing just such with enthusiasm for almost a decade now <grin>.

Plane, missile, thermite, termites...you're absolutely right, Paul. These debates are totally (and most, intentionally) divisive and counterproductive, benefiting only the perpetrators.

Great video, thank you for posting. Warrants sharing.

[ThePythonicCow]

But ... I am especially suggesting that exactly the sort of back and forth discussion that you just got me to engage in is exactly the sort of distraction from "the rest of the story" that explain why such discussions (was it really a plane?) have been tolerated for a decade now.

P.S. ... You didn't have to work very hard to engage me in this ... I've been doing just such with enthusiasm for almost a decade now <grin>.

Plane, missile, thermite, termites...you're absolutely right, Paul. These debates are totally (and most, intentionally) divisive and counterproductive, benefiting only the perpetrators.
Such discussions and observations have been a critical step for many of us in realizing that 9/11 was a major false operation.

Even those who realized it on the morning of 9/11, usually began with observations of what physically happened that day, realizing that what was shown and told to us was bogus. For example, some of Rebekah Roth's first realizations were that aluminum plane wings don't slice through major steel building walls like a knife through butter, that there was no plane at Shanksville, and that cell phones don't work at altitude.

Then it took her over a decade to get far enough away from her career in the business to take the next step.

Keep on growin', keep on learnin', keep on truckin', don't stop for nuthin'.

[Bill Ryan]

Paul, just came across this video, tnat may just prove your point...it would put an end to the distraction to the back and forth discussion if it is real.
P3NtaDC_ZEo

The plane (or whatever it was!) does actually go behind the square building... which appears to be in the background, but is actually in the foreground. I don't have the details to hand, but a street map of New York confirms it clearly. This small aspect of the complexity that occurred that day is not a controversy.

But:

I do suggest to those reading this thread that the money trail, and the cui bono trail (who benefits?), and the biggest picture of the huge changes that we've seen in the world since 2001, including the loss of many freedoms (with much more planned/intended for us to lose) — is the real issue.

A bunch of very evil individuals, and very evil groups, planned all this in the coldest of blood.

9/11 researchers (and those like us, very concerned and very interested) have deliberately been divided by focusing attention on the small stuff. And the small stuff is (for instance) trying to figure out exactly what happened to the Pentagon, the Twin Towers, or any other building.

I'd like to propose that these things really aren't all that important, and might distract us from the real issues.

Here's one issue never to lose sight of:

http://projectavalon.net/In_Memory_911.gif

[Bluegreen]

Here's one issue never to lose sight of:

http://projectavalon.net/In_Memory_911.gif

Thank you Bill for clarifying that particular issue

[heyokah]

I do suggest to those reading this thread that the money trail, and the cui bono trail (who benefits?), and the biggest picture of the huge changes that we've seen in the world since 2001, including the loss of many freedoms (with much more planned/intended for us to lose) — is the real issue.

A bunch of very evil individuals, and very evil groups, planned all this in the coldest of blood.

EXACTLY. Thank you Bill.


and:

Just for the record

It was you, Paul, who started and continued to derail your own thread, which was supposed to deal with that important matter Bill just mentioned, thus causing that back and forth discussion on 'the small stuff', distracting us from "the rest of the story".


That video also seems to accept the idea of planes hitting buildings and thermite taking them down.


I am suggesting that no Boeing 737, 757, or 767 airframe, whether commercial passenger airliner or tanker, hit the towers....etc, etc.....


I really wonder why, as the video you attacked (or was it the messenger?) was all about the money and the cui bono trail. It was only in the last 7 minutes (of the 43 minutes video), that the "weapon question" (planes/missiles/on what ever) briefly came up.
One could say that this video (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdE1Cwnymzc)was the "Mother" of James Corbett's. :)

As observer so eloquently wrote:

[....snip]
The "Finally Solved" video is three years old, and as I stated in my Comment #9, "It is unconscionable that this information has been public for so many years, yet nothing has been done. Perhaps Corbett's video might rustle some bushes - no pun intended. ;) "

[Tangri]

Since from the beginning a lot of people came long way, your criticized videos helped others to become awake. Most of you would be upset to me if I would have told you same things 14 years ago.

100 years ago , killing a prince was enough to start a world war. Now they are trying to kill millions, to achieve the same goal until clearing their desk in this job.

[araucaria]

The Corbett report examines two large dots which it only weakly connects. On the one hand, at 35” it explains very clearly how Ptech is given ‘the keys to the cyberkingdom’ at many large corporations and government agencies, including the FAA, the UN and even the White House, operating ‘at blueprint level’ – with all logon access, clearances and passwords – to detect and repair holes in the system, ostensibly to combat malfeasance of every kind, but with the opportunity of clandestinely doing the exact opposite of that. We are told of Saudi funding of Ptech through Sarmany Ltd by Yasin Al-Qadi, a great friend of Dick Cheney’s. The problem with this part of the story is this Saudi connection, which to many would appear as the false trail (the Bin Laden/Al Qaida fairytale). On the other hand however, we are shown the more familiar Zionist connection through the PNAC (the Project for a New American Century) – Wolfowitz, Perle, Rumsfeld, Jeb Bush & Dick Cheney…. The only common denominator, as far as I can see, appears to be the Cheney. But this dot connector is little more than a name. It would be very naïve to consider Dick Cheney as the devil incarnate weaving the entire web on his own. So what else can we say at this point?

If we follow the money, the currency has a directional flow, or current. The difference between the Israeli connection (‘Israel’) and the Saudi connection can be seen in this light. ‘Israel’ is notorious as a drain on resources such as billions of financial aid annually. Saudi Arabia is also a drain on resources in terms of petro-dollars, but at least it is making its money selling something of strategic importance. The big scam that has gone on for decades has been the rigging of this market, notably through gulf wars to sideline Iraq and Iran. But what has Israel got to offer? According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Israel), not very much: ‘relatively poor in natural resources’, but ‘Israel is active in software, telecommunication and semiconductors development’. And this:

its strong educational infrastructure and high quality incubation systems for new ideas boasts a high concentration of high-tech industries in Israel, which are backed by a strong venture capital industry, gave it the nickname "Silicon Wadi", which is considered second in importance only to its Californian counterpart It may be that Silicon Wadi is the original and Silicon Valley the copy. The point is however that Israel would appear to be the source of the AI technology that in the aviation sector has application in remotely controlled aircraft, as on 911, as in drone warfare, and likely as in MH370. Hence, ‘follow the money’ is only part of the story if it only leads to the Saudis while forgetting ‘Israel’ hiding behind a firewall of financial anti-Semitism (the stereotypical Jewish bankers). The point about bank(st)ers is that they don’t adhere to the financial system like the rest of us. They don’t live off commodities through commodity-backed money: they live off the immaterial interest created ostensibly out of nothing and in reality out of other people’s possessions. When we start talking about the ongoing theft of multiple trillions of dollars, we move out of the physical realm of financing goods and services, we are into something different altogether. See this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80742-Fitts-and-Farrell-Secret-Space-Program-Conference-San-Mateo-2014&p=944378&viewfull=1#post944378).

[ThePythonicCow]

It was you, Paul, who started and continued to derail your own thread
True <grin>. I pay less attention to what's on or off topic for a thread than most do.

[idiit]

to understand the Saudi Royal's Zionist connection one could start here:


the Saudis behind the creation of isis along with mossad and cia are actually Zionists.





Quote Quote In the History Book of the SAUDI FAMILY pages (98-101), their private family historian declares that


the SAUDI DYNASTY considers all the people of NAJD blasphemous; so their blood must be shed, their properties confiscated, and their females be taken as concubines; no muslem is authentic in his /her belief unless he/she belongs (affiliates) to the sect of MOHAMMAD BIN ABDUL WAHAB, (whose origins are also Jewish from TURKEY.) His doctrines give authority to the SAUDI FAMILY to destroy the villages with all their inhabitants-males including children, and to sexually assault their women; stab the bellies of the pregnant, and cut off the hands of their children, then burn them! They are further authorized by such a BRUTAL DOCTRINE to plunder all the properties of whom they call renegades (not following their Wahabi Sect).



Quote The Jewish roots of the Saudi Royal Family
https://www.facebook.com/notes/hidde...77683585596093

see any difference between the "protocols of the elders of zion" and the protocols of the wahabis?




Quote You Can't Understand ISIS If You Don't Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle39555.htm

"wahhabism Zionism" google results: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=wahhabism+zionism

[heyokah]

It was you, Paul, who started and continued to derail your own thread
True <grin>. I pay less attention to what's on or off topic for a thread than most do.

I think there is a word for, what I think, you should do .....uhm.... it had something to do with responsibility and ego, mmm, oh yes, I think I know the English word now.... a p o l o g i z e ?

[ThePythonicCow]

I think there is a word for, what I think, you should do .....uhm.... it had something to do with responsibility and ego, mmm, oh yes, I think I know the English word now.... a p o l o g i z e ?
We have differing views on what went down here, but it's beyond my abilities to bridge the communication gap. Peace.

[ExomatrixTV]

This video, while not the easiest to listen to, due to the almost monotone dialog, is, nevertheless, the most important single video, based on a "damning information per minute" criteria, of all the videos I've seen. I'd encourage everyone who has friends who think you're a loon for questioning your government, to appeal to them to simply pay attention to this one video and tell them that if they listen carefully and pay attention, and then are still of the same mind, you'll never address it with them again. No one can pay attention to this video and walk away pretending there are not numerous serious issues of conspiracy, fraud, theft, murder and cover-up that reveal a very corrupt government, laden with massive guilt.

Where did the $2.3 trillion go? ON sept.10 that Rumsfeld was him hawing about. Where is the $ 9 trillion that went missing? Listen to Alan Grayson grill these a-holes. This is why My tale is so outrageous because if the gov't can't give us an honest answer about missing trillions then their debauchery on 9/11 seems like everyday business!

CdE1Cwnymzc

[ThePythonicCow]

This video, while not the easiest to listen to, due to the almost monotone dialog, is, nevertheless, the most important single video, based on a "damning information per minute" criteria, of all the videos I've seen.
The above post was originally made over on Bill Ryan's Interview with REBEKAH ROTH (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85202-Bill-Ryan-s-new-interview-with-REBEKAH-ROTH-11-September-2015&p=998701&viewfull=1#post998701) thread. I just moved it over to this thread, which is discussing where the money went.

[heyokah]

This video, while not the easiest to listen to, due to the almost monotone dialog, is, nevertheless, the most important single video, based on a "damning information per minute" criteria, of all the videos I've seen. I'd encourage everyone who has friends who think you're a loon for questioning your government, to appeal to them to simply pay attention to this one video and tell them that if they listen carefully and pay attention, and then are still of the same mind, you'll never address it with them again. No one can pay attention to this video and walk away pretending there are not numerous serious issues of conspiracy, fraud, theft, murder and cover-up that reveal a very corrupt government, laden with massive guilt.

Where did the $2.3 trillion go? ON sept.10 that Rumsfeld was him hawing about. Where is the $ 9 trillion that went missing? Listen to Alan Grayson grill these a-holes. This is why My tale is so outrageous because if the gov't can't give us an honest answer about missing trillions then their debauchery on 9/11 seems like everyday business!

CdE1Cwnymzc

:becky: LOL
This is the third time this video was posted in this thread....See post #9, post #22 and post #39 and final!y it has been validated by the OP.:facepalm:

Thank you Paul, for seeing the light

:faint:



Thank you for starting this thread, Paul.

I'm posting an additional video to this thread, because it is a continuing trail of evidence to the one Paul posted.
That video also seems to accept the idea of planes hitting buildings and thermite taking them down. It also seems to soft pedal Israeli involvement, providing us with many details of US companies and individuals instead ...

It may serve better as a limited hangout and a distraction of too many details, that tends to keep those who haven't abandoned their conventional 9/11 views "in the fold".

We deal in a difficult propaganda terrain, and our enemy in this battle is skilled in that terrain.

[ThePythonicCow]

Ok - I've slept on this some, and done a bit of research.

I listened again to the Corbett video that I posted in the opening post of this thread, and again to the "911-Conspiracy Finally Solved!" video that observer posted above in Post #9 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85192-9-11-Trillions-Follow-The-Money--James-Corbett-&p=998153&viewfull=1#post998153) and that heyokah reposted in Post #22 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85192-9-11-Trillions-Follow-The-Money--James-Corbett-&p=998316&viewfull=1#post998316), of this thread, and that appears again in ExomatrixTV's Post #39 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85192-9-11-Trillions-Follow-The-Money--James-Corbett-&p=998688&viewfull=1#post998688) of this thread, after I moved it here from Bill Ryan's Interview with REBEKAH ROTH (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85202-Bill-Ryan-s-new-interview-with-REBEKAH-ROTH-11-September-2015&p=998701&viewfull=1#post998701) thread.

I have re-read observer's and heyokah's discomfort with my initial criticism (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85192-9-11-Trillions-Follow-The-Money--James-Corbett-&p=998165&viewfull=1#post998165) of this "911-Conspiracy Finally Solved!" video.

For the record, this "911-Conspiracy Finally Solved!" video has previously been posted on the forum at the following places. Clearly this video has gained the appreciation of several members over time.

911-Conspiracy Finally Solved!: Names, Connections, Motives, Details Exposed! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51718-911-Conspiracy-Finally-Solved--Names-Connections-Motives-Details-Exposed-)
A Really Good Review of the Reasons Why 9/11 is an Inside Job (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52401-A-Really-Good-Review-of-the-Reasons-Why-9-11-is-an-Inside-Job)
Follow the money (and more) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73149-Follow-the-money--and-more-)


This is just the sort of 9/11 video that I have spent many, many hours over the years viewing and enjoying and recommending.

But something didn't seem right to me, when I viewed it (probably not for the first time) a couple of days ago, when observer posted it on this thread.

First, let me make some things clear that I should have stated before on this thread, if I didn't already:

It makes perfectly good sense to post and consider that 2012 "911-Conspiracy Finally Solved!" video on this thread.
That video is indeed a predecessor of Corbett's new video, and presented, three years ago, much of the material that Corbett presented in his new documentary now.
I had no irritation with observer, heyokah, or ExomatrixTV, and still have none. It took me a bit of time to realize that my ill-defined irritation with something appeared to observer or heyokah as possible irritation with them. Not so.
Yes, that 2012 video, like Corbett's new video, does not call out the Israeli's very much, if at all.
Yes, I should have not written that I thought no planes hit the towers on 9/11, only that I thought that those American Airlines and United planes didn't hit the towers, because I was and remain of the view that Rebekah Roth is right - those planes landed in Westover Air Force Base, Massachusetts, and that furthermore, that I thought that no large Boeing passenger or tanker airframe hit the towers. I don't know what we saw that appeared to be planes hitting the WTC towers.
Yes, some of my (poorly stated) criticisms of the 2012 video also apply to the new Corbett video that I posted.

My basic criticisms of the 2012 video, which first began to percolate incoherently in my brain two days ago, when I viewed it in observer's post above, are criticisms of the video, and of the 9/11 truth movement, of which that video is a good representation and of which I have been an enthusiastic observer, and occasional commentator, for quite a few years now.

This 2012 video throws a lot of stuff at us, in a style that is sure to turn off many of the viewers who have not already gone over to the 9/11 truth side.

This 2012 video presents is a mix of

stuff we (of the alternative views of 9/11) agree with,
stuff that may or may not be of critical relevance,
stuff that is controversial or (in my view at least) just plain wrong,
stuff that is from the various limited hangouts that have been fashioned, sometimes deliberately I presume, by the 9/11 cover-up psyops specialists to keep us truthers in disarray and ineffective, and
essential, more hidden parts that are not mentioned (nor mentioned in Corbett's video)

The style of the 2012 video, as someone noted above, is in a monotone voice that isn't easy to listen to, and presents a hectic and eclectic assortment of evidence and facts in a manner that few will follow all the way. One main advantage of Corbett's new video is that he is a better presenter and that he has better organized and focused the material he chose to present.

I can just imagine any of my relatives, who still more or less accept the official 9/11 story, viewing that 2012 video. None of them would make it all the way through, and all of them would find in it more evidence that their relative Paul was a lunatic conspiracy nut case for suggesting such a video.

That 2012 video, in my recently changed view as of two days ago, is an excellent example of what's gone wrong with the 9/11 truth movement (and not by any accident either.)

... something true, something false, something hidden, and something annoying.

Thanks for posting it, observer, heyokah, and again ExomatrixTV. It's an interesting lesson.

Unfortunately, I can well imagine that the 9/11 cover-up psyops specialists are quite content to see this 2012 video posted multiple times.

[ThePythonicCow]

Since from the beginning a lot of people came long way, your criticized videos helped others to become awake. Most of you would be upset to me if I would have told you same things 14 years ago.
I for one would sure as heck have been upset. For several years after 9/11, I was a staunch support of Bush and of the war on terror, and wanted us to go kick some Middle Eastern butt. I was an active member of FreeRepublic.com, as ThePythonicCow. I got kicked off that forum in 2007, when I started to connect some dots and posted something doubting the official 9/11 story.

[observer]

This is the problem, the way I see it.... and, with no reflection on Paul.

Most people in general, including many of the members, don't have the patience to sit-through an entire video, or book and then make critical decisions regarding the material. This is not out of ignorance, it is because of deliberate ignore-ance. It's all about being willing to break-down the walls of our personal ideologies. From my perspective, that's precisely the reason for someone to join Avalon.

That's what prompted me to add this caveat to my first comment in the thread, comment #9 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85192-9-11-Trillions-Follow-The-Money--James-Corbett-&p=998153&viewfull=1#post998153).


"My apologies to those members who regularly complain about posting hours of videos, but there's no easy way to show all of the evidence without such video psoting, or researching thousands of pages of books."

If we, as a collective group, attempting to make a change to our Common Reality, are not willing to do the HARD WORK of fully educating ourselves into one cohesive force, than what's the point?

I've always said this site should be, first, a place of revelation.

[araucaria]

I have re-read observer's and heyokah's discomfort with my initial criticism (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85192-9-11-Trillions-Follow-The-Money--James-Corbett-&p=998165&viewfull=1#post998165) of this "911-Conspiracy Finally Solved!" video.
I must say, totally independently of the content of this video, that any such claim to present something as 'finally solved' is at best naively optimistic, and at worst deliberately attempting to prevent investigation beyond a given point. I offer no opinion as to where on that spectrum a particular instance may lie. Quite apart from that, any allusion to the loaded notion of a 'final solution' will lie somewhere along a spectrum ranging from historically naive/insensitive through the Freudian slip to deliberate in-your-face provocation. Again no comment.

[TargeT]

This is the problem, the way I see it.... and, with no reflection on Paul.

Most people in general, including many of the members, don't have the patience to sit-through an entire video, or book and then make critical decisions regarding the material. This is not out of ignorance, it is because of deliberate ignore-ance. It's all about being willing to break-down the walls of our personal ideologies. From my perspective, that's precisely the reason for someone to join Avalon.

And also the Trap of joining Avalon, beware the full glass!




That's what prompted me to add this caveat to my first comment in the thread, comment #9 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85192-9-11-Trillions-Follow-The-Money--James-Corbett-&p=998153&viewfull=1#post998153).


"My apologies to those members who regularly complain about posting hours of videos, but there's no easy way to show all of the evidence without such video psoting, or researching thousands of pages of books."

If we, as a collective group, attempting to make a change to our Common Reality, are not willing to do the HARD WORK of fully educating ourselves into one cohesive force, than what's the point?

I've always said this site should be, first, a place of revelation.

To me, the above is a good abstract example of why we might have a breakaway civilization, of course Atlas Shrugged is basically the same thing & a bit more apt.


The inherent nature of humanity to take the easiest path (thinking is hard... it takes effort...), the utter LACK of boredom we face these days (Boredom is a very useful motivator) and various other factors have caused the commonly used term "sheep" to fit very well when draped on the masses of humanity.

With some exceptions of course...

I feel it's Ignorance, not nescience, as you alluded to above, a willful avoidance of knowledge due to the effort involved, beliefs that don't allow consideration of the knowledge or a mixture of the two.

I guess my faith in humanity is a bit low right now.