Tesla vs. Einstein

[loveoflife]

I am not a scientist with only a rudimentary understanding of science and physics, yet i could understand this, well worth a read.

I would be interested to read any comments.



Tesla vs. Einstein: The Ether & the Birth of the New Physics (http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/tesla-vs-einstein-the-ether-the-birth-of-the-new-physics)


Tesla understood ether theory a lot better than Einstein did, but obviously, Tesla also did not truly understand the ramifications of Einstein’s famous equation E=mc2. He dismissed it as mathematical poppycock. Had he lived a few more years to see the explosion of the atom bomb, Tesla would have been forced to re-evaluate what he had discarded, and had Einstein re-evaluated the full ramifications of Tesla’s ether theory, he may have been able to achieve his grand dream of unifying gravity with electromagnetism, a process explainable by a full understanding of ether theory

[Bubu]

E= mc2 is a scam Einstein is a scam. His only invention was a fridge with co inventor. Shows just how much science he new

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/einstein.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Albert-Einstein-The-Incorrigible-Plagiarist/dp/0971962987

so his theory was the basis of the A bomb but he was not included in the team who developed it.

Its simple when young people look up to someone with nothing they get nothing its about dumbing the sheeple

[Bubu]

Aside from light energy there are many forms of energy all of which and some of which could be part of energies that made up matter/s. Therefore can influence the energetic content of a matter. WHY??? use speed of light alone as constant. There are energies that are more intense than light like the one describe by Tesla as the "infinitesimal". then there is the sound cold electricity and more. The hole is so big that anyone can see it but as you can see we missed it. Its because it was from someone famous, a genius of geniues. E=mc2 becomes real by faith just like religion.

[Dennis Leahy]

...so his theory was the basis of the A bomb but he was not included in the team who developed it.
Maybe they knew he was a peacenik?

[loveoflife]

Maybe this quote is true. One thing is certain we live in a Einstein dominated world, we would be living in a compleely different world if Tesla's inventions and science had not been suppressed.


"If Nikola Tesla had not be censured, we could have been traveling between the stars by now." – Nassim Haramein

[Citizen No2]

lovelife wrote:


Maybe this quote is true. One thing is certain we live in a Einstein dominated world, we would be living in a compleely different world if Tesla's inventions and science had not been suppressed.


And therein lies the answer. Tesla's alternating current was stolen and patented by Edison. Think Marconi 'invented' radio? Guess again.... it was Tesla. Robert A. Watson-Watt is credited with the invention of RADAR in 1935........... strange that, considering Tesla came up with RADAR in 1917, he even pitched the US Navy at the beginning of WW I but Edison was in charge of R&D and refused the idea, stating it had, "no practical application". Wilhelm Rontgen is credited with the 'discovery' of x-rays.............. can you guess? That's right, Tesla. Who was it that built the first hydro-electric plant at Niagara Falls? ............. Tesla. I could go on and on, the list of Tesla's achievements is vast. Tesla's contributions were not incremental, they were revolutionary.

Tesla was not interested in money, per se. His system for delivering alternating current through the Earth herself would have been very hard to monetise, no massive infrastructure needed to deliver the power to business and homes, he even invented a system that allowed current to flow through the air wirelessly, look up Wardenclyffe.

86 years old when he died, penniless and broken. Celibate his whole life. That this gift to humanity ended his day's as he did should come as no surprise. This is a very old game we have become wise to.

I'd like to offer an apology to Nikola Tesla, a man displaced in time.


Regards.

[Sunny-side-up]

lovelife wrote:


Maybe this quote is true. One thing is certain we live in a Einstein dominated world, we would be living in a compleely different world if Tesla's inventions and science had not been suppressed.


And therein lies the answer. Tesla's alternating current was stolen and patented by Edison. Think Marconi 'invented' radio? Guess again.... it was Tesla. Robert A. Watson-Watt is credited with the invention of RADAR in 1935........... strange that, considering Tesla came up with RADAR in 1917, he even pitched the US Navy at the beginning of WW I but Edison was in charge of R&D and refused the idea, stating it had, "no practical application". Wilhelm Rontgen is credited with the 'discovery' of x-rays.............. can you guess? That's right, Tesla. Who was it that built the first hydro-electric plant at Niagara Falls? ............. Tesla. I could go on and on, the list of Tesla's achievements is vast. Tesla's contributions were not incremental, they were revolutionary.

Tesla was not interested in money, per se. His system for delivering alternating current through the Earth herself would have been very hard to monetise, no massive infrastructure needed to deliver the power to business and homes, he even invented a system that allowed current to flow through the air wirelessly, look up Wardenclyffe.

86 years old when he died, penniless and broken. Celibate his whole life. That this gift to humanity ended his day's as he did should come as no surprise. This is a very old game we have become wise to.

I'd like to offer an apology to Nikola Tesla, a man displaced in time.


Regards.

Yes if only he was left to openly develop his mind into our reality.

We would be living in a very different world/worlds etc and would not have all these brilliant ideas of his being used and developed in secret by psychopathic sociopaths (PTW) and used against us :(

[Aurelius]

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I would be interested to read any comments.


Tesla understood ether theory a lot better than Einstein did, but obviously, Tesla also did not truly understand the ramifications of Einstein’s famous equation E=mc2. He dismissed it as mathematical poppycock. Had he lived a few more years to see the explosion of the atom bomb, Tesla would have been forced to re-evaluate what he had discarded, and had Einstein re-evaluated the full ramifications of Tesla’s ether theory, he may have been able to achieve his grand dream of unifying gravity with electromagnetism, a process explainable by a full understanding of ether theory

the "aether theory" is back (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83294-Significant-Keshe-Foundation-public-announcements), but with a new name. this time with a much better understanding behind its: structure; how it operates; how it relates to "matter"; thought; the cosmos / unicos; practical applications etc. With the way the aether theory is being re-introduced this time (grass-roots level & teaching slowly step by step), I don't think it will be possible to shelve-it away again. let's see, there are always more "clowns" around, than people who spend the time investigating / understanding / relating / evolving ...

ps. the infamous michelson-morley experiment was all about detecting an "aether wind". the aether isn't a wind.

[Aurelius]

E= mc2 is a scam Einstein is a scam. His only invention was a fridge with co inventor. Shows just how much science he new

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/einstein.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Albert-Einstein-The-Incorrigible-Plagiarist/dp/0971962987

so his theory was the basis of the A bomb but he was not included in the team who developed it.

Its simple when young people look up to someone with nothing they get nothing its about dumbing the sheeple

regarding Einstein's theories, look into this chap (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Joseph_Boscovich), you might learn something very interesting ....

regarding the a-bomb & where the tech really came from (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdfK5iLx7uQ) ....

[Bill Ryan]

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The real debate might be Einstein vs Maxwell. (That's Scottish physicist James Clerk Maxwell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Clerk_Maxwell)). I've heard from two different insiders, independently, that the advanced tech that's operational now for things like antigravity, teleportation, faster-than-light (FTL) communication, and FTL travel, is largely based (fundamentally) on Maxwell's work, and that Einstein got quite a lot of stuff wrong.

The insiders apparently know this very well. ("Einstein was an idiot", Pete Peterson (http://projectcamelot.org/pete_peterson.html) told us off-record, maybe a little unkindly. :) ) It does appear that some of Maxwell's original work has been suppressed and censored — i.e. deliberately removed from the scientific journals. Interesting stuff.

[Citizen No2]

I have studied Maxwell’s theorems, this is where my interest in scalar fields stems from. Maxwell had a notation that described 4D with three different solutions of the general field equation. Maxwell described the mathematics and then the civil domain ‘forgot’ about two of the three equations…… I’m guessing that the military did not.


Regards.

[loveoflife]

This is developing into a really interesting thread.

Citizen No2 mentioned scalar waves. So i will post this here for anyone who missed it. Bases 46 Harald Kautz Vella Black Goo Part One (https://youtu.be/HtAQdxowpYA) Where scalar waves are explained in simple understandable terms.

Here is his amazing follow up talk released on YT yesterday. Not to be missed if you saw the other one, yet it will also stand alone. I am impressed by his knowlwedge of the psychology of the human condition in relation to how this world is set up.

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[Octavusprime]

I don't know why we have to constantly compare Einstein to Tesla. The us vs. them mentality is never good. Einstein was a man and as such he was not perfect by any means.

Edit: I have immense respect for Tesla. I could just as easily have Tesla as my Avatar. I am drawn to Einstein not for his science achievements but more my curiosity on his philosophy on life. Hence my signature.

[Citizen No2]

Octavusprime wrote:


I don't know why we have to constantly compare Einstein to Tesla. The us vs. them mentality is never good. Einstein was a man and as such he was not perfect by any means.


I think comparison is a component of discernment, we do it subconsciously.

I don't think the intent of this thread was a popularity contest between Tesla and Einstein, but when one is placed upon a pedestal, who's theorems are elevated to the status of 'laws', then one must expect scrutiny. Personally, I am a fan of Einstein's humour, of his character........... he seemed to have a very playful, almost child-like, side to him. This is in direct contrast to Tesla, who, by his own admission, did not relate to people very well. Near the end of his life, Tesla stated that his best friend was a white, female pigeon, who could find him anywhere and had 'light' coming from her eyes. He also stated he had trouble discerning reality from the severe hallucinations that troubled him throughout his life.

I find both men fascinating. To compare is to formulate.

Essential.


Regards.

[WhiteLove]

I have not seen anyone smarter than Nikola Tesla within science, he was at the IQ level of the being RA channeled by Carla Rueckert... That says something about how incredibly smart that person was... The only person that comes close to this, that I have found, is a guy named Robert Kiyosaki, he is as bright within his field of expertise, which is money. People think he is an average guy in IQ, Robert is highly intelligent...

Having said this, we are all smart in our own unique ways, therefore comparing raw IQ within strict frames like this is a bit unnecessary...

[Octavusprime]

I agree but most of threads are really just created to state how great Tesla is and how Einstein stole others work and was a fake.

[Tangri]

Tesla vs. Einstein or electrical engineering vs theoretical physics.

Or Orange vs egg ( because both are round)

[Snoweagle]

Tesla opened the door and Einstein closed it.

Einstein's infection set high level physicists with different clarity to the problems they encountered, corrupting the focus. Tesla was old school. He knew energy in his environment based on the emerging science of the time. Science of Antiquity as their guide. Planetary science. After Einstein everything was divided up. Each branch created its own language describing analogous themes and n'er would they meet.

Einstein was a Jewish librarian reviewing the work of science authors for publication in Hamburg which was the centre of science of the time. Hamburg was the focus of the peer secular European science community who were keen to monitor the advances being made and to steer investment. Many authors were disavowed yet their work may still be is use today.

Tesla discovered something wonderful and beneficial and that wasn't part of the plan. Tesla recognised the dangers of his discovery and gave the science away to the very people that wanted it hidden in the first place. He was closed down and disappeared into obscurity.

Now that secular science community, the "dark hand" behind both these two scientists have now built and have in operation CERN and subsidiaries. It has it all.

IMO The only scientific commodity common to all sciences is magnetism. No exceptions. Unless all the branches of science refer to their own sphere of influence being directly related to or with respect to magnetism then I believe mankind is lost. When Bills comment about his friends in high places making remarks about Maxwell, so did some of mine and some too though my focus had been commercially and regulatory to extinguish the "noise", which we deem so precious now.

[Patrikas]

There is no doubting that Tesla was uniquely gifted in his own right , bu there were many gifted ppl in their respective fields and i think that Eric Dollards description of Tesla is pretty accurate....."He rode the atop the wave created by many brilliant ppl in science and mathematics ..etc.....he also was a close observer of natural things
According to Eric Dollard certain well known equations attributed to Maxwell came not from him but from Heaviside...
Dollard has reproduced many of Teslas findings and has also improved on some them ...

Dollards theory of antirelativity youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIuMICiFqmE

[Kindred]

I always liked this Einsteinian quote;

When asked how it felt to be called the 'smartest man on Earth', Einstein is reported to have answered:
"I don't know... you'll have to ask Nicola Tesla."

In Unity, Peace and Love

"Passing Through", Nicola Tesla...

https://vimeo.com/channels/staffpicks/44193401

[Bubu]

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E= mc2 is a scam Einstein is a scam. His only invention was a fridge with co inventor. Shows just how much science he new

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/einstein.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Albert-Einstein-The-Incorrigible-Plagiarist/dp/0971962987

so his theory was the basis of the A bomb but he was not included in the team who developed it.

Its simple when young people look up to someone with nothing they get nothing its about dumbing the sheeple

regarding Einstein's theories, look into this chap (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Joseph_Boscovich), you might learn something very interesting ....

regarding the a-bomb & where the tech really came from (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdfK5iLx7uQ) ....

I have my own theories what I wanted from others is hard facts.Theories are of no use unless proven and put to good use . Dont wanna waste my time proving someone else theories

[Bubu]

Tesla make theories and prove them. Theorians to me are no different than all talks no act. Sorry but I developed aversion to "THEORIES" I fought with my college professors in regards. Why should theories be thought in school. Let the one who make the theories prove it and then that's the time to bring it to school. But then again its all about dumbing the sheeple wasting our time on useless things. No theories can interest me.

[loveoflife]

Maybe this deserves a thread of its own?

The Nikola Tesla interview hidden for 116 years! (http://planetxnews.com/2015/05/18/the-nikola-tesla-interview-hidden-for-116-years/)


In 1899 Tesla gave this interview which has rarely ever been published for over 100 years.
In it Tesla pulls no punches and reveals the great conspiracy of science that was well under way, the suppression of ether and the introduction of a new fake science to conceal it as well as to suppress the work of Tesla himself.

Once, in 1899, Nikola Tesla had an interview with a certain journalist, John Smith, when Tesla said, “Everything is the light.” In one of its rays is the fate of nations, each nation has its own ray in that great light source, which we see as the Sun. In this interview this greatest inventor and seer of modern time unravels a new vision of humanity which we, the light warriors of the first and the last hour, have created a century later. A must read for every Ascended Master from the PAT.

Part of this interview is dedicated to Tesla’s critics on Einstein’s theory of relativity that discards the ether as energy. I have proved in the new Theory of the Universal Law why Einstein’s theory of relativity is entirely wrong and why there is no vacuum (void), and that everything is energy. Thus I confirm Tesla’s ideas as expressed in this interview.

George, May 7, 2015

[ThePythonicCow]

Maybe this deserves a thread of its own?

The Nikola Tesla interview hidden for 116 years! (http://planetxnews.com/2015/05/18/the-nikola-tesla-interview-hidden-for-116-years/)
It already has its own thread: Nikola Tesla interview (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83951-Nikola-Tesla-interview).

Here's Bill Ryan's take (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83951-Nikola-Tesla-interview&p=999965&viewfull=1#post999965) on that alleged interview:


Folks, I'm afraid this 'interview' is invented. There are a number of red flags in it, if one reads carefully, but the clearest is that most certainly no-one was talking about black holes in 1899.

The term 'black hole' was coined by physicist John Wheeler (1911-2008). Although the theoretical concept was discussed by a few in the 19th century, the term 'black hole' was first used by Wheeler in a presentation he gave in 1967.

It's a hoax... I do apologize. :bearhug:

[Morbid]

as far as i know einstein is a product of zoionist' creation.. he ment to be the first president of israel - enough said.

[loveoflife]

Maybe this deserves a thread of its own?

The Nikola Tesla interview hidden for 116 years! (http://planetxnews.com/2015/05/18/the-nikola-tesla-interview-hidden-for-116-years/)
It already has its own thread: Nikola Tesla interview (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83951-Nikola-Tesla-interview).

Here's Bill Ryan's take (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83951-Nikola-Tesla-interview&p=999965&viewfull=1#post999965) on that alleged interview:


Folks, I'm afraid this 'interview' is invented. There are a number of red flags in it, if one reads carefully, but the clearest is that most certainly no-one was talking about black holes in 1899.

The term 'black hole' was coined by physicist John Wheeler (1911-2008). Although the theoretical concept was discussed by a few in the 19th century, the term 'black hole' was first used by Wheeler in a presentation he gave in 1967.

It's a hoax... I do apologize. :bearhug:

I not going to debate the authenticity of that interview.

I do know that Tesla had an interest in ancient texts like the Vedas that described ether. So i will add this. Black Holes AND Ancient Indians (https://shankarkashyap.wordpress.com/2014/06/01/black-holes-and-ancient-indians/)


In ancient Indian scripture, Mandukya Upanishad, probably composed around the second millennium BCE, talks about Vishwaruchi, which absorbs everything in the universe – Black Hole. Black holes were considered as scientific curiosities in the first half of the twentiImageeth century and belonged largely in science fiction. It is only in the last couple of decades that their existence accepted by the scientific community.


The only thing we know that is capable of travelling faster than light, is a quantum particle called Tachyon. Even this has been described in the Mandukya Upanishad as Manojava. The characteristics of both objects and particles are uncannily similar.



Sayana, a fourteenth century mathematician and teacher in Vijayanagara court, commenting on Rigveda, Book one, hymn 50, has described what appears to be the speed of light. He quotes sunlight travelling 2202 yojanas in half a “nimisha.” Taking each Yojana to be about 9 miles long and a nimisha is about 16/75th of a second; it works out to around 185794 miles per second. That is a very close approximation of the speed of light. He was writing in the fourteenth century AD about a Vedic composition probably dating back to 3000 BCE.