The body of the mother can identify if child is evil or not.

[Cristi Copac]

I think that this might be true because I have an example . The person that I'm speaking of is the most evil person that I know in real life and I know that his mother didn't have milk for him. His younger sister did got milk. He was fed milk from another woman which had a son and was breastfeeding and she milked herself in a bottle for him. In real life the health comes down and females don't have milk for the second not for the first. What do you think of this?

[Koyaanisqatsi]

I think the whole premise of this post is outlandish. 'Evil' is a subjective term anyway, not an absolute for many. Also, a case study of one person that you knew is very weak anecdotal basis for conjecture. Thank you for sharing sim, but no. Theres just not enough here.

[Cristi Copac]

man .. evil is a relative term. i don't agree. pure hate and the need to hurt people which are weaker than them and hear their high pitch sounds is not universally accepted as good . of course in imaginationland everything is possible. not on earth.

later edit
i simply hate the word anecdotal. this is was the main argument throughout the century to distroy , kill, forbid, persecute,outlaw and humiliate natural medicine.
but you are right in the sense that it is just only 1 case. that's why i asked.

[Star Tsar]

No human child is born evil...

[Selkie]

No human child is born evil...

They are born psychopathic, however. Sadly, the evidence is mounting that psychopaths are born, not made by life circumstances or abuse, etc. There is also mounting evidence that psychopathy is highly heritable.

[Selkie]

I think the whole premise of this post is outlandish. 'Evil' is a subjective term anyway, not an absolute for many. Also, a case study of one person that you knew is very weak anecdotal basis for conjecture. Thank you for sharing sim, but no. Theres just not enough here.

The OP is not as outlandish as it may sound. There is mounting evidence that psychopaths are born, not made. It is entirely possible that a mother may sense that there is something wrong with her child, which could interfere with her letdown reflex.

http://www.lovefraud.com/2015/09/10/early-warning-sign-that-a-baby-could-grow-up-to-be-a-psychopath/

[Star Tsar]

No human child is born evil...

They are born psychopathic, however. Sadly, the evidence is mounting that psychopaths are born, not made by life circumstances or abuse, etc. There is also mounting evidence that psychopathy is highly heritable.

If this is the case for me the question has to transmogify to what makes a human being human?

[Selkie]

No human child is born evil...

They are born psychopathic, however. Sadly, the evidence is mounting that psychopaths are born, not made by life circumstances or abuse, etc. There is also mounting evidence that psychopathy is highly heritable.

If this is the case for me the question has to transmogify to what makes a human being human?

Psychopaths have a totally lack of empathy and conscience. There is also a lot of evidence to show that they lack all real feelings in general, although they are very good at mimicking feelings.

[Snookie]

Psychopaths have a totally lack of empathy and conscience. There is also a lot of evidence to show that they lack all real feelings in general, although they are very good at mimicking feelings.

Hence, the term "crocodile tears"

[Selkie]

Psychopaths have a totally lack of empathy and conscience. There is also a lot of evidence to show that they lack all real feelings in general, although they are very good at mimicking feelings.

Hence, the term "crocodile tears"

Yes, precisely.

addition Their brains function more like the brains of reptiles than of mammals. What mother would not be instinctively repelled by the unconscious feeling that her infant is more reptilian than mammalian?

[Star Tsar]

So what does society do with these folk?
Identify & alienate without any chance of redemption?
Would this not make us like them?

[Selkie]

So what does society do with these folk?
Identify & alienate without any chance of redemption?
Would this not make us like them?

Among them are the highest of the high, as in CEOs, banksters, heads-of-state, etc., and the lowest of the low, i.e. about 25 percent of the prison population, by which most of the violent crime...murder, rape, etc., is committed. Recidivism is very high among psychopaths, and rehabilitation is useless.

But by far, most of them can "pass" in normal society if they are careful and if they confine their depredations to those nearest and "dearest" to them, which is most often the case.

http://www.lovefraud.com/

http://psychopathsandlove.com/blog-psychopaths-and-emotional-manipulation-in-relationships/

Quite frankly, the science is still in its infancy, but psychopaths represent a true moral dilemma for the vast majority of mankind, who are not psychopathic. What do we do with these people, whose "values" are anti-social, and therefor so at odds with the rest of us, upon whom they prey? No one knows yet.

[Cristi Copac]

the rest of the world gets tricked. i did not know that these things exist. i saw him have mercy and real tears only for a beggar that was very agressive with a woman and the woman with some man who stood up for her gave him a nice hit in the head. it's the only time he showed real empathy( towards the agressive beggar not for the woman god forbid ... "she deserved it afterall" in his mind he says).

[Cristi Copac]

-ZnrQhk3eNQ`this is the best guy on youtube that understands fully what the problem is.

[Snookie]

I have heard that this behaviour was closely watched for in the young in many of the the Native American tribes. They would give the person 2 or 3 chances just to be sure it was part of the person's character. If the behaviour continued, they would take the individual and throw them off a cliff.

They understood that everyone in the tribe had to contribute to the wellbeing of the tribe, otherwise it could perish. I also think they knew this trait was often passed down.

As for sensing things about the child you are carrying, I knew when I was 3 months pregnant there was something wrong with my baby. I kept having dreams the baby died. I just thought that every Mom worries about the health of their baby. The feeling wouldn't go away. When I was 6 months, my Dr. must have felt there was something wrong as well. The 1st ultrasound didn't find anything. He persisted & sent me to a Dr who performed the very first ultrasound in my city. When the Dr. kept looking at the heart, I knew that was it. He confirmed it. My little girl had a severe heart and lung defect, also referred to as congenital heart disease. She lived for 10 weeks before she passed away.

[Selkie]

...As for sensing things about the child you are carrying, I knew when I was 3 months pregnant there was something wrong with my baby. I kept having dreams the baby died. I just thought that every Mom worries about the health of their baby. The feeling wouldn't go away. When I was 6 months, my Dr. must have felt there was something wrong as well. The 1st ultrasound didn't find anything. He persisted & sent me to a Dr who performed the very first ultrasound in my city. When the Dr. kept looking at the heart, I knew that was it. He confirmed it. My little girl had a severe heart and lung defect, also referred to as congenital heart disease. She lived for 10 weeks before she passed away.

I am so sorry, Snookie. I am so very, very sorry.

p.s. The letdown reflex is very sensitive. Mine failed because my parents disapproved of me breastfeeding my son, but I had no choice other than to live with them.

[Ellisa]

There are multitudes of people who are not breastfed by their birth mothers for many reasons. 99.9% are NOT psychopaths. The suggestion that they are is not only untrue, but also deeply upsetting to mothers who for perfectly acceptable reasons (including the birth of a younger sibling) cannot supply enough milk for their babies. In the case you mention, sim, the mother was able to find another woman to wet-nurse her baby and so the child would be able to enjoy breast milk's advantages. However the millions of children nurtured with artificial formula also grow up fine and no more evilly than some others who were breastfed and turned out to enjoy pulling the legs off flies!

[Innocent Warrior]

Edit: Deleted my original text, misunderstood the point made in OP.

[Constance]

Wow!

The whole topic of what makes and creates a psychopath is a huge can of worms.

If I take every bit of data that has been presented to me over the past 30+ years I can rule nothing out.

I've heard of the following:

Diets creating psychopaths You are what you eat. eg. Warlord Cannibals of Ghana.
Wealth and power creating psychopaths
Genes creating psychopaths - through bloodlines (and we all know who we are referring to here)
Mind control creating psychopaths
Chemical imbalances of the brain creating psychopaths
Structural abnormalities in certain parts of the cranium creating psychopaths
Tumours in the brain causing psychopathic behaviours
Chemical exposure causing psychopathic behaviours eg. heavy metals
Environmental

This is a great movie to watch with lots of insights...


http://www.fisheadmovie.com/

[pugwash84]

I breast fed 3 out of 4 of my children, the one I never breastfed is the more sensitive and shows more empathy than the other 3 because that's part of who he is xx I never breastfed him because I had post natal depression. He is always the first one to cry at sad films and he has been upset by others being upset from a very early age xx I think choosing to breastfeed is a personal thing and its also extremely painful, not only do the nipples tend to crack and bleed but the after pains in the womb intensify and for me it felt like I was having labour contractions every time I breastfed, also a breastfeeding mother cant take pain relief and cant eat certain foods as these pass on through the milk xx breast feeding is not easy xx

[kirolak]

What makes us "human"? I'm thinking of those few cases where children were raised by wolves/lived feral. . .beyond a certain short window of time, it seems the brain is not able to accept language and consequently the development of more abstract thinking, & most of these people will never be normally functional. Sorry I don't have links to hand, it's something I read about recently, though, in a book on the development of the human brain. . .

[Cristi Copac]

ellisa and rachel. please read again without emotion and understand what is debated. it's a possibility that if the child is evil you might have the unconcious body of the woman who doesn't give him milk.

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pugwash84 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?2801-pugwash84) Did your body produce the milk for that child?

[Innocent Warrior]

ellisa and rachel. please read again without emotion and understand what is debated. it's a possibility that if the child is evil you might have the unconcious body of the woman who doesn't give him milk.

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pugwash84 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?2801-pugwash84) Did your body produce the milk for that child?

Thanks for the clarification, I've edited my post.


it's a possibility that if the child is evil you might have the unconcious body of the woman who doesn't give him milk.

Could you clarify this please, not sure I understand what you're saying? Do you mean this in a general sense, to clarify what's being debated or do you mean us specifically?

[Cristi Copac]

rachel can you conciously say i want to produce milk now and the body produces for you to utilise? or is it that the body produces and you decide what you do with it?

[Innocent Warrior]

My body produced it and I decided not to breastfeed (medication), so if I'm understanding you correctly, my son does not fit the category, however, I do (I think, correct me if I'm wrong).

I am the first born in my family and I was the only one who was not breastfed, because my mother didn't produce milk for me but did for my siblings.

[Cristi Copac]

you got what i was trying to say. and quess your not a psycho :D so my theory doesn't work in your case. are you different than your siblings i mean... very different?

[Innocent Warrior]

you got what i was trying to say. and quess your not a psycho :D so my theory doesn't work in your case. are you different than your siblings i mean... very different?

Yes, I'm very different from my siblings and my mother.

[Cristi Copac]

my quess is that for this issue the body or has 1 health issues or it has 2 a choice for not feeding the child that it doesn't like for whatever reason. evil might reject good for that matter.
(http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?2801-pugwash84)

[Selkie]

There are multitudes of people who are not breastfed by their birth mothers for many reasons. 99.9% are NOT psychopaths. The suggestion that they are is not only untrue, but also deeply upsetting to mothers who for perfectly acceptable reasons (including the birth of a younger sibling) cannot supply enough milk for their babies. In the case you mention, sim, the mother was able to find another woman to wet-nurse her baby and so the child would be able to enjoy breast milk's advantages. However the millions of children nurtured with artificial formula also grow up fine and no more evilly than some others who were breastfed and turned out to enjoy pulling the legs off flies!

I think what the OP was saying is that the woman in question sensed there was something wrong with her child...that he might be psychopathic...and that's why her milk failed. The OP is not about the benefits of breast-feeding vs formula, and it is certainly not saying that formula feeding causes psychopathy. It is simply about the instincts of one mother vis-à-vis her child.

About the way a wet-nurse was able to feed him, perhaps the nurse didn't have the same intuition about him that his mother did. After all, although she nursed him, she did not carry him inside of her for 9 months, therefor she was not as close to the child as his mother.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-discover-childrens-cells-living-in-mothers-brain/

And finally, it is not the responsibility of the OP to muzzle himself because some mothers might get upset.

[Bill Ryan]

And finally, it is not the responsibility of the OP to muzzle himself because some mothers might get upset.

No it's not, but we all have the shared responsibility to post ideas with reasonable intelligence, diligence, and with a little thought and (when appropriate) research to support the balloons we care to fly.

I understand that simbad24 is a fairly new member, from Romania (a warm welcome to our community!) and his English is not very good (although infinitely better than my Romanian :bigsmile: ) — but the idea he floated is a very silly suggestion.

Whether a being is evil or not (and some are) is a spiritual quality. This, from your post above
I think what the OP was saying is that the woman in question sensed there was something wrong with her child...that he might be psychopathic...and that's why her milk failed.makes totally the most sense. (If any sense is to be made from this at all! It certainly cannot be a generality.)

[Selkie]

And finally, it is not the responsibility of the OP to muzzle himself because some mothers might get upset.

No it's not, but we all have the shared responsibility to post ideas with reasonable intelligence, diligence, and with a little thought and (when appropriate) research to support the balloons we care to fly.

I understand that simbad24 is a fairly new member, from Romania (a warm welcome to our community!) and his English is not very good (although infinitely better than my Romanian :bigsmile: ) — but the idea he floated is a very silly suggestion.

Whether a being is evil or not (and some are) is a spiritual quality. This, from your post above
I think what the OP was saying is that the woman in question sensed there was something wrong with her child...that he might be psychopathic...and that's why her milk failed.makes totally the most sense. (If any sense is to be made from this at all! It certainly cannot be a generality.)

I was mainly struck by the idea that a mother's milk could fail if she sensed psychopathy in her child. Even without her realizing what she was sensing, her body would know. That never occurred to me before, but it makes sense. Sadly, the instincts of mothers are often poo-pooed.

I like the Native American way of dealing with the problem,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85288-The-body-of-the-mother-can-identify-if-child-is-evil-or-not.&p=999804&viewfull=1#post999804

It is ruthless, but eminently sensible.

p.s. I was making allowances for Sim's English, which is, indeed, better than my Romania, too. I guess I allowed too much in this case :blushing:

[Cristi Copac]

thank you Bill Ryan for your response. i'm not certain about this theory on a large population that's why i asked. but it highly plausible for me that the BODY of the mother knows better or different than the mother . The body can be very different than spirit with laws from a very far past . The BODY is the one producing the milk and not the conscience of the mother . I was trying to ask for more similar cases to see if the theory is correct or not. I will try and correct the initial post so that it's much clearer.

[Bill Ryan]

thank you Bill Ryan for your response. i'm not certain about this theory on a large population that's why i asked. but it highly plausible for me that the BODY of the mother knows better or different than the mother . The body can be very different than spirit with laws from a very far past . I was trying to ask for more similar cases to see if the theory is correct or not. I will try and correct the initial post so that it's much clearer.

Oh, I see! :sun:

I had NOT understood what you were saying in your first post. I do apologize.

You're suggesting that the mother's body can somehow (sometimes) sense that a child is evil, and then 'refuse' to produce milk for the baby. That's an interesting idea. Got it. :thumbsup:

[PurpleLama]

There is definitely an innate intelligence in the body, and likewise an unconscious knowing that any mother has about her child. As to the part about a mother's body not producing milk, there are bound to be instances where exactly this is the case, what the OP proposes. That being said, from my understanding these instances would be the exception, rather than the rule, as there are countless factors that can influence whether a woman's milk would come in for any given baby, from the new mother who's body hasn't quite made all the changes necessary physiologically for the first child to have milk but has it for the second, or one who was on some herbal remedy or pharmaceutical medication or was under some kind of particular stress or was somehow just not quite in just the right kind of balance for it to happen that the milk comes when the baby does. Mama and baby have to learn what they're doing with the whole feeding thing, some new mother's get discouraged and give up too soon.

[pugwash84]

Yes I made the milk but it went after a while as I was not using it xx

[pugwash84]

I couldn't produce enough milk with my 3rd child though at first as he was a huge baby and drinking 4oz as soon as he was born so I had to top up with bottle too. I was producing milk before the babies was born too xx I remember my Nanna saying one of her siblings was raised on goats milk because her mother never produced milk and thats what they used instead back in them days. I think sometimes it's due to diet too and how the health of the mother is. xx

[conk]

No human child is born evil...

I must agree. The environment and one's reaction to the environment makes 'good' or 'evil'. To state that a child is born evil is to submit to the illogical platitudes of fundamentalist beliefs. "you're born in sin and must be saved"! BS!

Psychopaths, hmmm. Psychopathy very often develops when the pre-frontal cortex (that which separates us from other mammals) is not properly activated. Children not shown love and affection or severely mistreated never show signs of pre-frontal cortex activity. This part of the brain is where the conscience resides. They have no empathy for other beings and may be considered evil.

[Selkie]

No human child is born evil...

I must agree. The environment and one's reaction to the environment makes 'good' or 'evil'. To state that a child is born evil is to submit to the illogical platitudes of fundamentalist beliefs. "you're born in sin and must be saved"! BS!

Psychopaths, hmmm. Psychopathy very often develops when the pre-frontal cortex (that which separates us from other mammals) is not properly activated. Children not shown love and affection or severely mistreated never show signs of pre-frontal cortex activity. This part of the brain is where the conscience resides. They have no empathy for other beings and may be considered evil.

(my emphasis)

If only it were that simple, but it is not,


http://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/can_a_psychopath_learn_feel_pain

...They really took care of me, more than others in the family. I was treated well. I was raised as kind of a golden child.

...one of the serotinin system warrior genes, the SERT (serotonin transporter promoter) gene, has shown that while those with the high risk allele who undergo early abuse/abandonment will be at risk for later violence and aggression, those with the same allele who undergo a very positive (loving) early environment will be at lower risk for such behaviors.

http://www.businessinsider.com/psychopath-who-studies-psychopaths-2015-7

The genes come first. Psychopaths are born, not made, although very loving treatment, as in Fallon's case, may ameliorate the expression of the genes somewhat. But as you can see if you read the links, even with his exceptionally loving upbringing, by his own admission, he still exhibits psychopathic traits, enough for his wife and daughter to know there was something wrong with him, and to say that he has a dark side, even before he accidentally found out his brain scans as that of a typical psychopath.

addition I was severely mistreated...beaten and sexually abused by both parents...and yet, my pre-frontal cortex activated.

[Cristi Copac]

i want to reiterate the new theory after comments
Body doesn't produce milk because :
1 not able because of biological inability - sickness or lack of good health(very common due to 100 years of genocidal medicine )
2 because he doesn't want to .
it could be that the child is a possible life and death enemy in the future (very different than the mother). what the natives did was the only thing possible to keep the whole tribe healthy in soul.

[Cristi Copac]

the person that i spoke of if you were to confess and cry about what your parents did would have enjoyed and fed with your tears .

[Tangri]

i want to reiterate the new theory after comments
Body doesn't produce milk because :
1 not able because of biological inability - sickness or lack of good health(very common due to 100 years of genocidal medicine )
2 because he doesn't want to .
it could be that the child is a possible life and death enemy in the future (very different than the mother). what the natives did was the only thing possible to keep the whole tribe healthy in soul.

Here are some of the most common causes of low milk production and some strategies that may help.

1. Insufficient glandular tissue

Some women’s breasts don’t develop normally (for various reasons) and may not have enough “milk-making” ducts to meet their baby’s needs. Ducts do grow during each pregnancy and breastfeeding stimulates the growth of more ducts and tissue, so this may be less of a problem with a second or third baby. There are certainly steps you can take to maximize your milk production (these might include pumping and taking a prescription medication–talk to your doctor and a breastfeeding expert) but you may also need to supplement with formula. It’s worth the effort to continuing breastfeeding, though, as even a small amount of your milk will help support your baby’s immune system, brain development and nutritional needs.
2. Hormonal or endocrine problems

Perhaps you have polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), a low or high thyroid, diabetes, hypertension (high blood pressure) or hormonal problems that made it difficult for you to conceive. Any of these issues may also contribute to low milk production because making milk relies on the hormonal signals being sent to the breasts. What can you do? In some cases, treatment of your health problem will help you to boost milk production, although supplementation may be needed. A visit to a breastfeeding clinic or lactation consultant can help you find an approach that will work with your specific condition.

3. Previous breast surgery

Breast surgeries can be done for both medical and cosmetic reasons. Breast reductions or enhancements, for example, are increasingly common. Nipple piercings can also be considered a kind of breast surgery and may damage milk ducts in the nipple. How much these surgeries affect breastfeeding varies widely, depending on how the procedure was done, how much time has passed between the surgery and the birth of the baby and whether there were any complications that might have caused scarring or damage to the breasts. Some women, especially those with breast enhancements rather than reductions, may be able to exclusively breastfeed without any difficulty. Others will need extra help and may have to supplement.

4. Using hormonal birth control

Many mothers who breastfeed and take birth control pills find their milk production doesn’t change, but for some, any form of hormonal birth control (the pill, patch or injections) can cause a significant drop in their milk. This is more likely to happen if you start using these contraceptives before your baby is four months old, but it can happen later as well. The first step to increasing your milk supply again is to stop the medication, but talk to your doctor before you do and be prepared to change birth control methods. Some mothers also need extra help (such as a prescription medication, herbal supplements and/or pumping) to boost milk production.

5. Taking certain medications or herbs

Pseudoephredine (the active ingredient in Sudafed and similar cold medications), methergine, bromocriptine or large amounts of sage, parsley or peppermint can affect your milk. If you find your supply has dropped and realize you have taken one of the medications listed here, ask your doctor about an alternative treatment for your cold or health ailment. Increased breastfeeding and possibly pumping will help you build up your milk production again.

6. Sucking difficulties or anatomical issues

The problem may lie with your little one; it may be difficult for him to get the milk from your breasts. He may, for example, have a tongue-tie. That means the thin membrane of tissue at the bottom of his mouth is holding the baby’s tongue too tightly, so that he’s not able to use it properly to extract the milk. (A baby doesn’t really suck the milk out of your breast, he uses his tongue to help compress the breast and push the milk into his mouth.) In many cases this is fairly easy to see, but for some babies the restricting membrane is at the back of the tongue and harder to identify. Check to see if your baby is able to stick his tongue out (over his bottom lip) and that he touches it to the roof of his mouth when crying. If your baby is tongue-tied, the membrane can be clipped by a doctor and the baby’s ability to breastfeed will improve quickly. Other problems can also cause sucking difficulties (such as cleft lip and cleft palate), so if you suspect your baby isn’t feeding well, check with an expert or your doctor.


7. Not feeding at night

There are many books and programs that offer sleep-training methods to get babies to sleep longer at night without waking for feedings. While these techniques can work for some families, the loss of those night feedings can mean problems with weight gain for some babies. Why? Mothers vary a lot in how much milk they are able to store in their breasts between feedings. With no feedings overnight, their milk supply starts to drop. The level of prolactin (the hormone that signals the breasts to make milk) is also higher during night feedings, so the lowered overall prolactin can also contribute to a drop in milk. It’s hard to resist the lure of more sleep, but for many mothers, those nightly feedings are essential to keep milk production high. If you have started sleep training and find your milk supply going down, consider reintroducing one or two night feedings.

8. Scheduling feedings and/or using a pacifier between feedings

Your breasts make milk continuously, but the rate at which milk is made depends on how empty they are. You’ll make more milk when your breasts are close to empty and less milk when they are already filled up. When your baby is feeding infrequently, because you have put him on a three- or four-hour schedule for example, or because you are giving him a pacifier to stretch out the time between feedings, your breasts are fuller for longer periods of time. That means milk production slows down. When babies are breastfed in response to their cues, they tend to have shorter, frequent feedings and this means the breasts are emptier most of the time and so they continue to produce plenty of milk.

9. Birth medications or jaundice

Mothers don’t always realize that medications used in labour, such as epidural anaesthetic or Demerol, can affect the baby’s ability to latch on and breastfeed effectively. Some studies show these effects last as long as a month, depending on the medication used in the epidural and the length of time the mother received it. Jaundice, a common condition in newborns, can also make your baby sleepier than usual, so that he doesn’t wake up to nurse as often as he would otherwise. In both cases, you may need to pump your milk to build up a good supply. Once your baby has cleared the medications from his system and the jaundice has been treated, he will probably begin nursing well and you’ll be able to reduce and eventually stop pumping.

10. Supplementation

Especially in the first couple of weeks, supplementing with formula tricks your breasts into producing less milk. “In the early weeks, the breasts’ capacity for milk production is calibrated in response to the amount of milk that is removed,” says lactation consultant Diana West. “If less milk is removed, the breasts assume that less milk is needed, so the capacity is set at a lower point.” When your baby is given formula supplements, she naturally eats less at the breast, and the breasts respond by making less milk. If supplementation is necessary, pumping as well as breastfeeding can help to promote a higher volume of milk production.

[Cristi Copac]

no sir they think like evil , talk like evil, act like evil . they are evil and should be considered as such. of course there is a cause to anything to in this life but we cannot invent the time machine. some psychos are born, some have predispositions and are made . no absolutes here. just the idea of evil which is pure destructive hate.

[Tangri]

no sir they think like evil , talk like evil, act like evil . they are evil and should be considered as such. of course there is a cause to anything to in this life but we cannot invent the time machine. some psychos are born, some have predispositions and are made . no absolutes here. just the idea of evil which is pure destructive hate.

Before burning witches, you should consider tendency to a condition or quality, usually based on the combined effects of genetic and environmental factors' probabilities.

http://thebreastfeedingmother.blogspot.ca/2012/12/what-causes-low-milk-production.html

And just a reminder;

Voyvoda III. Vlad Tepeş was well breastfed.

[Cristi Copac]

Tangri you qouted me . Did you really read what i said? Or what anyone else said?

addition : Vlad Tepes and others like him are the reason why romanians still exist. They defended themselves from the ottoman empire . Self defence is a principle of the universe, of the planet. The person who denies self defence is a perpetrator at heart. A true psychopath. A sado-masochistic one. Vlad Tepes did not rape or steal. He killed robbers, thiefs , low lifes and created a state (short lived one) where the law was respected. It was written that you could go to a remote area and drink from a water pit with a glass made of gold . The gold was there and nobody stole it. And he was also a military genius . But he had a small country with small capacities.

[Tangri]

:handshake:

Before burning witches, you should consider tendency to a condition or quality, usually based on the combined effects of genetic and environmental factors' probabilities.

:handshake:

[Selkie]

no sir they think like evil , talk like evil, act like evil . they are evil and should be considered as such. of course there is a cause to anything to in this life but we cannot invent the time machine. some psychos are born, some have predispositions and are made . no absolutes here. just the idea of evil which is pure destructive hate.

Before burning witches, you should consider tendency to a condition or quality, usually based on the combined effects of genetic and environmental factors' probabilities.

Nobody is burning witches, or suggesting that "witches" should be burnt. The OP floats a theory, and invites us to explore it, that's all. Just because it flies in the face of our sensitivity training does not mean it should be rejected out of hand.

All of us are products of both nature and nurture, but psychopaths are fundamentally unlike the rest of us, and if James Fallon is any example, it means that even with the best of nurturing, psychopaths remain psychopaths...devoid of real emotion, empathy and conscience...cold, calculating and indifferent.

In the news lately, there has been more than a little bit of propagandizing in favor of their anti-social traits. But ask yourself: since most of the problems in our world are acknowledged by just about everyone to be caused by psychopaths, where do you think the propaganda that anti-social traits can be a good thing is coming from?

[Tangri]

no sir they think like evil , talk like evil, act like evil . they are evil and should be considered as such. of course there is a cause to anything to in this life but we cannot invent the time machine. some psychos are born, some have predispositions and are made . no absolutes here. just the idea of evil which is pure destructive hate.

Before burning witches, you should consider tendency to a condition or quality, usually based on the combined effects of genetic and environmental factors' probabilities.


In the news lately, there has been more than a little bit of propagandizing in favor of their anti-social traits. But ask yourself: since most of the problems in our world are acknowledged by just about everyone to be caused by psychopaths, where do you think the propaganda that anti-social traits can be a good thing is coming from?

Is it relevant to the low or lack of milk production for evils?

:focus:

[Selkie]

no sir they think like evil , talk like evil, act like evil . they are evil and should be considered as such. of course there is a cause to anything to in this life but we cannot invent the time machine. some psychos are born, some have predispositions and are made . no absolutes here. just the idea of evil which is pure destructive hate.

Before burning witches, you should consider tendency to a condition or quality, usually based on the combined effects of genetic and environmental factors' probabilities.


In the news lately, there has been more than a little bit of propagandizing in favor of their anti-social traits. But ask yourself: since most of the problems in our world are acknowledged by just about everyone to be caused by psychopaths, where do you think the propaganda that anti-social traits can be a good thing is coming from?

Is it relevant to the low or lack of milk production for evils?

:focus:

I think it is relevant to the topic at hand, yes. And I think I can be forgiven for a little bit of editorializing, lol.

[Cristi Copac]

tangri you're not debating the issue at hand. you haven't read anything written here. you came in here to preach. are you a feminist by any chance? because you argue like one.

[Tangri]

I was trying to show different aspects of luck of breast-milk is not a child refusal reason, and shouldn't be at all.

You are saying "psychopaths remain psychopaths...devoid of real emotion, empathy and conscience...cold, calculating and indifferent. " Did I mention any command on "psychopaths?
You and I are definitely living at different dimension.

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tangri you're not debating the issue at hand. you haven't read anything written here. you came in here to preach. are you a feminist by any chance? because you argue like one.

No, I am a medical doctor.

[Constance]

No human child is born evil...

I must agree. The environment and one's reaction to the environment makes 'good' or 'evil'. To state that a child is born evil is to submit to the illogical platitudes of fundamentalist beliefs. "you're born in sin and must be saved"! BS!

Psychopaths, hmmm. Psychopathy very often develops when the pre-frontal cortex (that which separates us from other mammals) is not properly activated. Children not shown love and affection or severely mistreated never show signs of pre-frontal cortex activity. This part of the brain is where the conscience resides. They have no empathy for other beings and may be considered evil.

Thanks for that Conk. I forgot to add environment to my list.

[Selkie]

I was trying to show different aspects of luck of breast-milk is not a child refusal reason, and shouldn't be at all.

You are saying "psychopaths remain psychopaths...devoid of real emotion, empathy and conscience...cold, calculating and indifferent. " Did I mention any command on "psychopaths?
You and I are definitely living at different dimension.

I understood your post about the many aspects of the failure of the letdown reflex, Tangri.

But what you don't mention in your list is exactly what the OP is talking about: the possibility of the recognition by the body of the mother, if not by her conscious mind, of the psychopathic nature of the child, and the possibility of the failure of her letdown reflex despite her love and maternal concern for her child.

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I was trying to show different aspects of luck of breast-milk is not a child refusal reason, and shouldn't be at all.

You are saying "psychopaths remain psychopaths...devoid of real emotion, empathy and conscience...cold, calculating and indifferent. " Did I mention any command on "psychopaths?
You and I are definitely living at different dimension.

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tangri you're not debating the issue at hand. you haven't read anything written here. you came in here to preach. are you a feminist by any chance? because you argue like one.

No, I am a medical doctor.

Yes, I thought so.

[Cristi Copac]

I felt the self righteousness in your tone. You come from the same pit of knowledge as feminism.
"I was trying to show different aspects of luck of breast-milk is not a child refusal reason, and shouldn't be at all. " You are completely right . We don't live in the same world. I never said what you said i said. It's easier to impose your will on nature than to actually know something about it.

[Cristi Copac]

you edited your post. you said you are gay and now you are a doctor. are you a gay doctor? what type of doctor? white coat? a real service to humanity you're doing.

[Tangri]

I felt the self righteousness in your tone. You come from the same pit of knowledge as feminism.
"I was trying to show different aspects of luck of breast-milk is not a child refusal reason, and shouldn't be at all. " You are completely right . We don't live in the same world. I never said what you said i said. It's easier to impose your will on nature than to actually know something about it.

I felt the self righteousness in your tone. You come from the same pit of knowledge as feminism. happy to hear that medical knowledge similar to feminism.

"I was trying to show different aspects of luck of breast-milk is not a child refusal reason, and shouldn'tbe at all. " You are completely right :handshake:

We don't live in the same world. I never said what you said --You and I are definitely living at different dimension. wasn't meant to you at first.

Body of mother is not that smart according to Hitler's, Bushes', ..., ..( I do not want to give other sample's name to honour their existence) but I and others can put a lot of names which are the proof of mother body's failure to recognise an evil born.

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you edited your post. you said you are gay and now you are a doctor. are you a gay doctor? what type of doctor? white coat? a real service to humanity you're doing.

This is not proper way to have a discussion.

[Selkie]

Body of mother is not that smart according to Hitler's, Bushes', ..., ..( I do not want to give other sample's name to honour their existence) but I and others can put a lot of names which are the proof of mother body's failure to recognise an evil born...

But the OP has given one data point that says that sometimes, at least, the body of the mother really is that smart.

What if there are more instances...maybe even many more...that no one ever noticed because they were chalked up to supposed psychological issues like fear of motherhood, or frigidity, etc., on the part of the mother?

[Cristi Copac]

"Body of mother is not that smart according to Hitler's, Bushes'
let me get this straight. body is not that smart according to hitler and bush . ok. so therefore it is not smart? we can learn from them and have a good opinion about life and medicine?

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[Selkie]

"Body of mother is not that smart according to Hitler's, Bushes'
let me get this straight. body is not that smart according to hitler and bush . ok. so therefore it is not smart? we can learn from them and have a good opinion about life and medicine?

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Body of mother is not that smart according to Hitler's, Bushes', ..., ..( I do not want to give other sample's name to honour their existence) but I and others can put a lot of names which are the proof of mother body's failure to recognise an evil born.

Since Hitler and the Bushes (not to mention the Rockefellers, who hijacked the medical schools long ago) are psychopaths, should we really be listening to them when they tell us that the body of a mother is not smart enough to recognize psychopathology in her child, and refuse it milk, even despite the best intentions of her conscious mind and her maternal love and concern for her child?

addition Don't forget that psychopaths number only about 1% of the general population. Not to mention that the study of psychopathology and public awareness of psychopathology is in its infancy (pun seriously not intended). All those things combined would make the failure of the letdown reflex, or the failure to produce milk at all because of psychopathology in the child, very hard to spot. But now that the subject has been breached, it is time to start exploring the possibility that it is true. Especially since there are objective tests like brain scans, and records of the brain scans of psychopaths vs normals.

[Cristi Copac]

actually the body is very inteligent. it has instinct, intuition, ability to organise a 1 trilion celll society second by second. when you think and ideas pop up it's not from you. it's from the body. you try and think of nothing and see what happens.

[silverfish]

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[Cristi Copac]

what's really unsafe is modern medicine and the agenda 21. it was not a personal attack. i asked him if he is a feminist because he argues like one(he sees only himself). and then he said that he is gay and after that he said that he is a doctor. i think that the white coats have done a lot of harm to humanity and there is a huge body of evidence to support that.

[zen deik]

No human child is born evil...

They are born psychopathic, however. Sadly, the evidence is mounting that psychopaths are born, not made by life circumstances or abuse, etc. There is also mounting evidence that psychopathy is highly heritable.

Brain damage

[Selkie]

No human child is born evil...

They are born psychopathic, however. Sadly, the evidence is mounting that psychopaths are born, not made by life circumstances or abuse, etc. There is also mounting evidence that psychopathy is highly heritable.

Brain damage

No, from the research, it doesn't appear to be. It appears to be that they are genetically coded to be that way. No one know why, yet. There are links in other posts in this thread you can check out, and its easy enough to do a web search and find the research.

[seah]

I saved this thread yesterday because my time was restricted to add my thoughts. I see that it has become quite the topic of interest. But I would like to share my perceptive even though I am coming in late.

I don't know the answer to whether a child can be born evil. I do feel very strongly that I am mother to one, and having been with him every step of the way as he and I grew together, there were at times, subtle signs, but I simply didn't have the awareness at the time to catch it. It began to be much more noticeable to me at about the age of fourteen. At that time, a disturbing incident occurred, that made me take notice...not only the incident, but the caviler attitude which he demonstrated shocked me to my core.

I will never know if my body would have provide ongoing milk for him or not, as I was advised to not breastfeed. I was given medication to dry my milk, but it did initially come in.
I do remember that I had a most peculiar dream soon after he was born. In the dream, I opened my eyes and a bat was flying toward me. The bat's face was that of my baby's. I came awake with a scream drowning in my throat. But it might be said the dream was a representation of a new mother's anxiety.

I suspect that it takes many factors to create a sociopath. It isn't simply nature or nurture. I have two other children who are completely different from my firstborn, and though I made mistakes as a first time mother, they were more along the lines of doing too much for him rather than not enough, always making excuses for his behaviour, expecting him to grow out of it.

Mouravieff, in Gnosis, claims that not all humans are born with higher centers. Many others are now writing about organic portals. These beings are life force drainers, great mimics of our emotions because they use us as mirrors. This is, essentially, the make up of my son. I can't have him in my life, yet I continue to love him.

[Selkie]

I saved this thread yesterday because my time was restricted to add my thoughts. I see that it has become quite the topic of interest. But I would like to share my perceptive even though I am coming in late.

I don't know the answer to whether a child can be born evil. I do feel very strongly that I am mother to one, and having been with him every step of the way as he and I grew together, there were at times, subtle signs, but I simply didn't have the awareness at the time to catch it. It began to be much more noticeable to me at about the age of fourteen. At that time, a disturbing incident occurred, that made me take notice...not only the incident, but the caviler attitude which he demonstrated shocked me to my core.

I will never know if my body would have provide ongoing milk for him or not, as I was advised to not breastfeed. I was given medication to dry my milk, but it did initially come in.
I do remember that I had a most peculiar dream soon after he was born. In the dream, I opened my eyes and a bat was flying toward me. The bat's face was that of my baby's. I came awake with a scream drowning in my throat. But it might be said the dream was a representation of a new mother's anxiety.

I suspect that it takes many factors to create a sociopath. It isn't simply nature or nurture. I have two other children who are completely different from my firstborn, and though I made mistakes as a first time mother, they were more along the lines of doing too much for him rather than not enough, always making excuses for his behaviour, expecting him to grow out of it.

Mouravieff, in Gnosis, claims that not all humans are born with higher centers. Many others are now writing about organic portals. These beings are life force drainers, great mimics of our emotions because they use us as mirrors. This is, essentially, the make up of my son. I can't have him in my life, yet I continue to love him.

My heart goes out to you, Seah.

[Constance]

I saved this thread yesterday because my time was restricted to add my thoughts. I see that it has become quite the topic of interest. But I would like to share my perceptive even though I am coming in late.

I don't know the answer to whether a child can be born evil. I do feel very strongly that I am mother to one, and having been with him every step of the way as he and I grew together, there were at times, subtle signs, but I simply didn't have the awareness at the time to catch it. It began to be much more noticeable to me at about the age of fourteen. At that time, a disturbing incident occurred, that made me take notice...not only the incident, but the caviler attitude which he demonstrated shocked me to my core.

I will never know if my body would have provide ongoing milk for him or not, as I was advised to not breastfeed. I was given medication to dry my milk, but it did initially come in.
I do remember that I had a most peculiar dream soon after he was born. In the dream, I opened my eyes and a bat was flying toward me. The bat's face was that of my baby's. I came awake with a scream drowning in my throat. But it might be said the dream was a representation of a new mother's anxiety.

I suspect that it takes many factors to create a sociopath. It isn't simply nature or nurture. I have two other children who are completely different from my firstborn, and though I made mistakes as a first time mother, they were more along the lines of doing too much for him rather than not enough, always making excuses for his behaviour, expecting him to grow out of it.

Mouravieff, in Gnosis, claims that not all humans are born with higher centers. Many others are now writing about organic portals. These beings are life force drainers, great mimics of our emotions because they use us as mirrors. This is, essentially, the make up of my son. I can't have him in my life, yet I continue to love him.

That's pretty tough on you Seah. It is very heartwarming to hear that you have such unconditional love for him :heart:

[Cristi Copac]

SddZvNQOuFw this is an example of a female psychopath. it's a very school like material . women have their weapons and men have theirs but the end objective is the same. steal from you energy and murder is not cleared out of their list. the psychopath attaches when you have a problem, when you are in some sort of broken scenario. then they come in. the example above shows that the man was indeed damaged goods . i think i can say that the psychopath works as if it's a parasite and you are the hoast.
i made this post in order to clarify the terms used here. but it's fascinating that we come from different worlds with no possibility of interacting and we discovered the same things.

[seah]

I saved this thread yesterday because my time was restricted to add my thoughts. I see that it has become quite the topic of interest. But I would like to share my perceptive even though I am coming in late.

I don't know the answer to whether a child can be born evil. I do feel very strongly that I am mother to one, and having been with him every step of the way as he and I grew together, there were at times, subtle signs, but I simply didn't have the awareness at the time to catch it. It began to be much more noticeable to me at about the age of fourteen. At that time, a disturbing incident occurred, that made me take notice...not only the incident, but the caviler attitude which he demonstrated shocked me to my core.

I will never know if my body would have provide ongoing milk for him or not, as I was advised to not breastfeed. I was given medication to dry my milk, but it did initially come in.
I do remember that I had a most peculiar dream soon after he was born. In the dream, I opened my eyes and a bat was flying toward me. The bat's face was that of my baby's. I came awake with a scream drowning in my throat. But it might be said the dream was a representation of a new mother's anxiety.

I suspect that it takes many factors to create a sociopath. It isn't simply nature or nurture. I have two other children who are completely different from my firstborn, and though I made mistakes as a first time mother, they were more along the lines of doing too much for him rather than not enough, always making excuses for his behaviour, expecting him to grow out of it.

Mouravieff, in Gnosis, claims that not all humans are born with higher centers. Many others are now writing about organic portals. These beings are life force drainers, great mimics of our emotions because they use us as mirrors. This is, essentially, the make up of my son. I can't have him in my life, yet I continue to love him.

That's pretty tough on you Seah. It is very heartwarming to hear that you have such unconditional love for him :heart:

There have been times that I despise his presence, but when he leaves, the chaos goes with him and the tenderness I feel for him returns.

As Simbad says above, it is also possible that he was born with a predisposition, for lack of a better word, to be a kind of host to evil, and so through no fault of his own it came to exist in him. I feel he suffers as a result, but I don't know if it's true suffering because of remorse or because he cannot have his own way. He certainly has never demonstrated remorse.

[Selkie]

I saved this thread yesterday because my time was restricted to add my thoughts. I see that it has become quite the topic of interest. But I would like to share my perceptive even though I am coming in late.

I don't know the answer to whether a child can be born evil. I do feel very strongly that I am mother to one, and having been with him every step of the way as he and I grew together, there were at times, subtle signs, but I simply didn't have the awareness at the time to catch it. It began to be much more noticeable to me at about the age of fourteen. At that time, a disturbing incident occurred, that made me take notice...not only the incident, but the caviler attitude which he demonstrated shocked me to my core.

I will never know if my body would have provide ongoing milk for him or not, as I was advised to not breastfeed. I was given medication to dry my milk, but it did initially come in.
I do remember that I had a most peculiar dream soon after he was born. In the dream, I opened my eyes and a bat was flying toward me. The bat's face was that of my baby's. I came awake with a scream drowning in my throat. But it might be said the dream was a representation of a new mother's anxiety.

I suspect that it takes many factors to create a sociopath. It isn't simply nature or nurture. I have two other children who are completely different from my firstborn, and though I made mistakes as a first time mother, they were more along the lines of doing too much for him rather than not enough, always making excuses for his behaviour, expecting him to grow out of it.

Mouravieff, in Gnosis, claims that not all humans are born with higher centers. Many others are now writing about organic portals. These beings are life force drainers, great mimics of our emotions because they use us as mirrors. This is, essentially, the make up of my son. I can't have him in my life, yet I continue to love him.

That's pretty tough on you Seah. It is very heartwarming to hear that you have such unconditional love for him :heart:

There have been times that I despise his presence, but when he leaves, the chaos goes with him and the tenderness I feel for him returns.

As Simbad says above, it is also possible that he was born with a predisposition, for lack of a better word, to be a kind of host to evil, and so through no fault of his own it came to exist in him. I feel he suffers as a result, but I don't know if it's true suffering because of remorse or because he cannot have his own way. He certainly has never demonstrated remorse.

Psychopaths don't feel much emotion of any kind. It has been shown, in the research, that their real emotions, if they have any, are very fleeting and shallow. But they are brilliant observers, and are well-known to be able to mimic emotions, although they do not feel them.

[Wind]

The soul of an psychopath is severely damaged, but also that soul has chosen to be highly polarized towards service to self. Of course I'm not talking about the Self, I'm talking about the ego which is after only it's own desires. Even psychopaths do have a purpose in the grand scheme of things, they're the opposers and people who will cause drama and havoc. They're the polar opposites of empaths.

[Constance]

I saved this thread yesterday because my time was restricted to add my thoughts. I see that it has become quite the topic of interest. But I would like to share my perceptive even though I am coming in late.

I don't know the answer to whether a child can be born evil. I do feel very strongly that I am mother to one, and having been with him every step of the way as he and I grew together, there were at times, subtle signs, but I simply didn't have the awareness at the time to catch it. It began to be much more noticeable to me at about the age of fourteen. At that time, a disturbing incident occurred, that made me take notice...not only the incident, but the caviler attitude which he demonstrated shocked me to my core.

I will never know if my body would have provide ongoing milk for him or not, as I was advised to not breastfeed. I was given medication to dry my milk, but it did initially come in.
I do remember that I had a most peculiar dream soon after he was born. In the dream, I opened my eyes and a bat was flying toward me. The bat's face was that of my baby's. I came awake with a scream drowning in my throat. But it might be said the dream was a representation of a new mother's anxiety.

I suspect that it takes many factors to create a sociopath. It isn't simply nature or nurture. I have two other children who are completely different from my firstborn, and though I made mistakes as a first time mother, they were more along the lines of doing too much for him rather than not enough, always making excuses for his behaviour, expecting him to grow out of it.

Mouravieff, in Gnosis, claims that not all humans are born with higher centers. Many others are now writing about organic portals. These beings are life force drainers, great mimics of our emotions because they use us as mirrors. This is, essentially, the make up of my son. I can't have him in my life, yet I continue to love him.

That's pretty tough on you Seah. It is very heartwarming to hear that you have such unconditional love for him :heart:

There have been times that I despise his presence, but when he leaves, the chaos goes with him and the tenderness I feel for him returns.

As Simbad says above, it is also possible that he was born with a predisposition, for lack of a better word, to be a kind of host to evil, and so through no fault of his own it came to exist in him. I feel he suffers as a result, but I don't know if it's true suffering because of remorse or because he cannot have his own way. He certainly has never demonstrated remorse.

Yes. Through no fault of his own.

Only the first page of the article was free for viewing and not that I really ever endorse psychiatry but this appeared to be a very sensitive piece of writing and my heart just exploded with love and compassion for all those so desperate for love.


http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/psychotic-affective-disorders/hidden-suffering-psychopath

All my love to you and your son :heart:

[Selkie]

I saved this thread yesterday because my time was restricted to add my thoughts. I see that it has become quite the topic of interest. But I would like to share my perceptive even though I am coming in late.

I don't know the answer to whether a child can be born evil. I do feel very strongly that I am mother to one, and having been with him every step of the way as he and I grew together, there were at times, subtle signs, but I simply didn't have the awareness at the time to catch it. It began to be much more noticeable to me at about the age of fourteen. At that time, a disturbing incident occurred, that made me take notice...not only the incident, but the caviler attitude which he demonstrated shocked me to my core.

I will never know if my body would have provide ongoing milk for him or not, as I was advised to not breastfeed. I was given medication to dry my milk, but it did initially come in.
I do remember that I had a most peculiar dream soon after he was born. In the dream, I opened my eyes and a bat was flying toward me. The bat's face was that of my baby's. I came awake with a scream drowning in my throat. But it might be said the dream was a representation of a new mother's anxiety.

I suspect that it takes many factors to create a sociopath. It isn't simply nature or nurture. I have two other children who are completely different from my firstborn, and though I made mistakes as a first time mother, they were more along the lines of doing too much for him rather than not enough, always making excuses for his behaviour, expecting him to grow out of it.

Mouravieff, in Gnosis, claims that not all humans are born with higher centers. Many others are now writing about organic portals. These beings are life force drainers, great mimics of our emotions because they use us as mirrors. This is, essentially, the make up of my son. I can't have him in my life, yet I continue to love him.

That's pretty tough on you Seah. It is very heartwarming to hear that you have such unconditional love for him :heart:

There have been times that I despise his presence, but when he leaves, the chaos goes with him and the tenderness I feel for him returns.

As Simbad says above, it is also possible that he was born with a predisposition, for lack of a better word, to be a kind of host to evil, and so through no fault of his own it came to exist in him. I feel he suffers as a result, but I don't know if it's true suffering because of remorse or because he cannot have his own way. He certainly has never demonstrated remorse.

Yes. Through no fault of his own.

Only the first page of the article was free for viewing and not that I really ever endorse psychiatry but this appeared to be a very sensitive piece of writing and my heart just exploded with love and compassion for all those so desperate for love.


http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/psychotic-affective-disorders/hidden-suffering-psychopath

All my love to you and your son :heart:

The article was written by someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. It was probably written by someone who was conned by the psychopath's ability to feign and mimic emotion :facepalm:

addition But thanks for the article never-the-less, because I am going to show it to my therapist the next time I meet with him, and he and I can get a hearty, if sardonic, laugh out of it.

[Selkie]

SddZvNQOuFw this is an example of a female psychopath. it's a very school like material . women have their weapons and men have theirs but the end objective is the same. steal from you energy and murder is not cleared out of their list. the psychopath attaches when you have a problem, when you are in some sort of broken scenario. then they come in. the example above shows that the man was indeed damaged goods . i think i can say that the psychopath works as if it's a parasite and you are the hoast.
i made this post in order to clarify the terms used here. but it's fascinating that we come from different worlds with no possibility of interacting and we discovered the same things.

Yes, they have a very keen nose for vulnerability.

[Constance]

I'm personally not in the position to make any judgements about the state of any psychopathic individual Selkie but if you are right about what you said Selkie, then all I can do is H'oponopono for those souls. xxxx

[Selkie]

...I'm personally not in the position to make any judgements about the state of any psychopathic individual but if you are right about what you said Selkie, then all I can do is H'oponopono for those souls. xxxx

You really have to have experience of one to know what they are like.

Seah states that her son has never shown remorse. If he has never shown remorse, then he most likely has no conscience or empathy. And if he has no conscience or empathy, then he most likely does not really know what love, or sadness or guilt or shame or any other emotion feels like, either.

I feel for the parents of all psychopaths, and for their wives, husbands, children, boyfriends and girlfriends, cousins, sisters and brothers. I feel for their students if they are teachers. I feel for their employees if they are bosses, or their bosses if they are employees.

But I do not feel for the psychopaths themselves.

addition If they had souls, I don't think the Native Americans would have dealt with them like this,




I have heard that this behaviour was closely watched for in the young in many of the the Native American tribes. They would give the person 2 or 3 chances just to be sure it was part of the person's character. If the behaviour continued, they would take the individual and throw them off a cliff.

They understood that everyone in the tribe had to contribute to the wellbeing of the tribe, otherwise it could perish. I also think they knew this trait was often passed down.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85288-The-body-of-the-mother-can-identify-if-child-is-evil-or-not.&p=999804&viewfull=1#post999804

[seah]

perhaps the conscience is there but sealed away by programming, technology, etc. I remain hopeful that he will find redemption. With the present day infusions on earth these day there is no telling what is possible.

[Cristi Copac]

selkie and breal edit your posts . the reply quote it's getting too big.

[Jhonie]

I think the Native Americans dealt with them that way as a matter of survival.

[Constance]

selkie and breal edit your posts . the reply quote it's getting too big.

Simbad24,
I have now done this as per your request ;)

[Selkie]

I think the Native Americans dealt with them that way as a matter of survival.

Its a matter of survival for us all. It is they who most often start and perpetuate the wars. It is they who commit most of the violent crimes. If you are their child, or their lover, you know exactly that it is a matter of survival...psychological survival, if not physical survival. But sometimes it is a matter of physical survival if you know a psychopath, too.