The Human Artificial Chromosone and Morgellons. NASA and The Human Genome.

[loveoflife]

This is disturbing revelation for myself as more is revealed about the trans humanist agenda.

This Video is almost five years old so i do not know if this information has been posted on this forum before.

It would seem that another phase of genetic manipulation is underway.

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[idiit]

Harold kautz has done the best work on this topic of ai induced morgellans that i'm aware of:

http://www.timeloopsolution.com/english/morgellons_e.html

http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-intro.htm

kautz morgellon thread here at pa with lots of stuff: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83617-Bases-46-Transhumanism-DNA-Technology-Chemtrails-Alien-AI-and-Black-Goo&p=996649&highlight=morgellons#post996649

[Lifebringer]

And now you know why they are vaccinating. To alter the DNA possibly? 2004 was during Cheney's hay day as well as that reptile Rumsfeld who owns a pharmaceutical company overseas away from regulations. CDC gets its vaccines from Rummy, and as in my book I'm writing (after research) are "tainted hot shots." The countries with the most resources or gold or diamond, are slyly given the vaccines. Remember the "sign reader during Mandela's funeral. Something was wrong there, but perhaps after spreading Christianity in the African continent, they decided they wanted it all, those nation's people are their petrie dish.

There's much more here than meets the eye. Wasn't that administration pushing for stem cell research as the Nazi's?
Just saying that facism can come through the Church's red cross sworn to eliminate anyone crossing their hospitals. Usually they are always at the top or just below the decision making.:coffee:

[Selkie]

The video made a great deal of sense to me.

[Fairy Friend]

Wow. That is ridiculous and clearly he knows nothing about cytogenetics. I too worked on the genome project. With publications in the journal of Cytogenetics and in Stem cells.

That is a centromeric region formed when isochromosomes form. When an acrocentric chromosomes form a isochromosome, like what sometimes can occur in Down's syndrome, the other piece is the other centromeric region.

My contribution was that this will occur in equal numbers to isochromosomes numbers in the population. If the cell division mistake occurs just after conception, you'll see it in equal numbers within the patients body, although because it usually contains no genetic codes over time it tends to get lost with multiple cell divisions. I had a fellow colleague who discovered a small percentage of people with both iso chromosome and centromere that gravitated to the same cell. Which meant two cellular divisions mistakes occurred. In the mid 1980s. Clearly, he has little understanding of how cell division works or reading karyotypes.

[Jean-Marie]

Fairy Friend, once again, I thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. It helps because most of us do not have the education in this area, let alone the experience. Many can get caught in believing what they hear on the internet. Blessings to you! :heart::bearhug::heart:

[Selkie]

Wow. That is ridiculous and clearly he knows nothing about cytogenetics. I too worked on the genome project. With publications in the journal of Cytogenetics and in Stem cells.

That is a centromeric region formed when isochromosomes form. When an acrocentric chromosomes form a isochromosome, like what sometimes can occur in Down's syndrome, the other piece is the other centromeric region.

My contribution was that this will occur in equal numbers to isochromosomes numbers in the population. If the cell division mistake occurs just after conception, you'll see it in equal numbers within the patients body, although because it usually contains no genetic codes over time it tends to get lost with multiple cell divisions. I had a fellow colleague who discovered a small percentage of people with both iso chromosome and centromere that gravitated to the same cell. Which meant two cellular divisions mistakes occurred. In the mid 1980s. Clearly, he has little understanding of how cell division works or reading karyotypes.

But isn't the video talking about genetic changes in the bodies of otherwise normal adults, adults that did not start out with genetic abnormalities, unlike Down's syndrome people? So wouldn't that make what is happening in a Morgellon's victim much different than what happens to a Down's person?

I can picture that it wouldn't take much foreign DNA, inserted into someone's chromosomes, to cause a whole host of problems as the foreign DNA expressed itself. The process would be similar to the production and shedding of viruses. I can even picture that different body tissues would each produce different types of Morgellon's "stuff".

[Fairy Friend]

Wow. That is ridiculous and clearly he knows nothing about cytogenetics. I too worked on the genome project. With publications in the journal of Cytogenetics and in Stem cells.

That is a centromeric region formed when isochromosomes form. When an acrocentric chromosomes form a isochromosome, like what sometimes can occur in Down's syndrome, the other piece is the other centromeric region.

My contribution was that this will occur in equal numbers to isochromosomes numbers in the population. If the cell division mistake occurs just after conception, you'll see it in equal numbers within the patients body, although because it usually contains no genetic codes over time it tends to get lost with multiple cell divisions. I had a fellow colleague who discovered a small percentage of people with both iso chromosome and centromere that gravitated to the same cell. Which meant two cellular divisions mistakes occurred. In the mid 1980s. Clearly, he has little understanding of how cell division works or reading karyotypes.

But isn't the video talking about genetic changes in the bodies of otherwise normal adults, adults that did not start out with genetic abnormalities, unlike Down's syndrome people? So wouldn't that make what is happening in a Morgellon's victim much different than what happens to a Down's person?

I can picture that it wouldn't take much foreign DNA, inserted into someone's chromosomes, to cause a whole host of problems as the foreign DNA expressed itself. The process would be similar to the production and shedding of viruses. I can even picture that different body tissues would each produce different types of Morgellon's "stuff".

It is seen in the normal population all the time (in small percentage ) been studied for decades with little association to any disease. It has no codes for proteins present. If only the centromere is present the person is normal. Insertion of DNA is not done by chromosome insertion into the cell.

Ten years of bad science doesn't make up for one year of good science.

[Selkie]

Wow. That is ridiculous and clearly he knows nothing about cytogenetics. I too worked on the genome project. With publications in the journal of Cytogenetics and in Stem cells.

That is a centromeric region formed when isochromosomes form. When an acrocentric chromosomes form a isochromosome, like what sometimes can occur in Down's syndrome, the other piece is the other centromeric region.

My contribution was that this will occur in equal numbers to isochromosomes numbers in the population. If the cell division mistake occurs just after conception, you'll see it in equal numbers within the patients body, although because it usually contains no genetic codes over time it tends to get lost with multiple cell divisions. I had a fellow colleague who discovered a small percentage of people with both iso chromosome and centromere that gravitated to the same cell. Which meant two cellular divisions mistakes occurred. In the mid 1980s. Clearly, he has little understanding of how cell division works or reading karyotypes.

But isn't the video talking about genetic changes in the bodies of otherwise normal adults, adults that did not start out with genetic abnormalities, unlike Down's syndrome people? So wouldn't that make what is happening in a Morgellon's victim much different than what happens to a Down's person?

I can picture that it wouldn't take much foreign DNA, inserted into someone's chromosomes, to cause a whole host of problems as the foreign DNA expressed itself. The process would be similar to the production and shedding of viruses. I can even picture that different body tissues would each produce different types of Morgellon's "stuff".

It is seen in the normal population all the time (in small percentage ) been studied for decades with little association to any disease. It has no codes for proteins present. If only the centromere is present the person is normal. Insertion of DNA is not done by chromosome insertion into the cell.

Ten years of bad science doesn't make up for one year of good scince.

Ah, I see! Thank you.

One more question. In the video, it seemed like he was saying that they use cells...especially blood cells...to insert foreign DNA into a host body, not by the insertion of chromosomes.

I can picture that "universal donor" red blood cells, doped with foreign DNA (since RBCs have no nucleus), would find their way into the liver of the person, where they would dump their load of foreign DNA as the red blood cells get recycled by the liver. From the liver, could the foreign DNA make its way to various other tissues of the body, where it might find a home and produce the many different types of Morgellon's "stuff" that we see?

[Fairy Friend]

Cells don't transfer DNA but viruses, plasmids, some bacteria, mitochondria may.

[Shadowself]

This may be of some interest based on the conversations so far.

http://bio.lmu.de/~parsch/evogen/ForRevGen.pdf

[Selkie]

Cells don't transfer DNA but viruses, plasmids, some bacteria, mitochondria may.

Viruses inject DNA into cells, yes.

But what I am asking is if it is possible that RBCs could be artificially doped with DNA...or even just artificial amino acids...as sort of little Trojan Horses? If they were "universal donor" cells, the body wouldn't even notice they were there. Then, once in the liver, when they are recycled, the artificial amino acids would be released.



The heme group is broken down into iron and bilirubin. The amino acids and iron can either be reused by the cell itself or transported through the blood and into the bone marrow, where the recycled components can be reused to form red blood cells.

I can picture how the artificial amino acids might then be incorporated into different tissues, to wreck all kinds of havoc.

In other words, maybe they don't need to start with foreign DNA at all. Maybe they just need to use foreign, or artificial, amino acids?

[Fairy Friend]

Cells don't transfer DNA but viruses, plasmids, some bacteria, mitochondria may.

Viruses inject DNA into cells, yes.

But what I am asking is if it is possible that RBCs could be artificially doped with DNA...or even just artificial amino acids...as sort of little Trojan Horses? If they were "universal donor" cells, the body wouldn't even notice they were there. Then, once in the liver, when they are recycled, the artificial amino acids would be released.



The heme group is broken down into iron and bilirubin. The amino acids and iron can either be reused by the cell itself or transported through the blood and into the bone marrow, where the recycled components can be reused to form red blood cells.

I can picture how the artificial amino acids might then be incorporated into different tissues, to wreck all kinds of havoc.

In other words, maybe they don't need to start with foreign DNA at all. Maybe they just need to use foreign, or artificial, amino acids?

The DNA is broken down by the liver just FYI. Red blood cells don't replicate themselves (no nucleus) but come from bone marrow stem cells so no I don't think that would transfer DNA. Other methods are more productive.

[Selkie]

Cells don't transfer DNA but viruses, plasmids, some bacteria, mitochondria may.

Viruses inject DNA into cells, yes.

But what I am asking is if it is possible that RBCs could be artificially doped with DNA...or even just artificial amino acids...as sort of little Trojan Horses? If they were "universal donor" cells, the body wouldn't even notice they were there. Then, once in the liver, when they are recycled, the artificial amino acids would be released.



The heme group is broken down into iron and bilirubin. The amino acids and iron can either be reused by the cell itself or transported through the blood and into the bone marrow, where the recycled components can be reused to form red blood cells.

I can picture how the artificial amino acids might then be incorporated into different tissues, to wreck all kinds of havoc.

In other words, maybe they don't need to start with foreign DNA at all. Maybe they just need to use foreign, or artificial, amino acids?

The DNA is broken down by the liver just FYI. Red blood cells don't replicate themselves (no nucleus) but come from bone marrow stem cells so no I don't think that would transfer DNA. Other methods are more productive.

Yes, I know that RBCs have no nucleus...I already said that, in a previous post,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85395-The-Human-Artificial-Chromosone-and-Morgellons.-NASA-and-The-Human-Genome.&p=1001298&viewfull=1#post1001298

Well, then, it would be possible to dope RBCs with artificial DNA, which would get broken down into artificial amino acids, other, more productive methods notwithstanding.

And since stem cells come from bone marrow, when the hypothetical artificial amino acids get incorporated into the stem cells, they could end up all over the body, and completely f*** things up, and we could wind up with just the sorts of Morgellon's stuff we see.

The process would look something like this;

Trojan Horse RBCs, containing artificial DNA >>>Liver, where they are broken down into artificial amino acids >>> Bone marrow, where the artificial amino acids are made into stem cells >>> stem cells go into various tissues, where they produce all kinds of Morgellon's "stuff".

[Fairy Friend]

Cells don't transfer DNA but viruses, plasmids, some bacteria, mitochondria may.

Viruses inject DNA into cells, yes.

But what I am asking is if it is possible that RBCs could be artificially doped with DNA...or even just artificial amino acids...as sort of little Trojan Horses? If they were "universal donor" cells, the body wouldn't even notice they were there. Then, once in the liver, when they are recycled, the artificial amino acids would be released.



The heme group is broken down into iron and bilirubin. The amino acids and iron can either be reused by the cell itself or transported through the blood and into the bone marrow, where the recycled components can be reused to form red blood cells.

I can picture how the artificial amino acids might then be incorporated into different tissues, to wreck all kinds of havoc.

In other words, maybe they don't need to start with foreign DNA at all. Maybe they just need to use foreign, or artificial, amino acids?

The DNA is broken down by the liver just FYI. Red blood cells don't replicate themselves (no nucleus) but come from bone marrow stem cells so no I don't think that would transfer DNA. Other methods are more productive.

Yes, I know that RBCs have no nucleus...I already said that, in a previous post,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85395-The-Human-Artificial-Chromosone-and-Morgellons.-NASA-and-The-Human-Genome.&p=1001298&viewfull=1#post1001298

Well, then, it would be possible to dope RBCs with artificial DNA, which would get broken down into artificial amino acids, other, more productive methods notwithstanding.

And since stem cells come from bone marrow, when the hypothetical artificial amino acids get incorporated into the stem cells, they could end up all over the body, and completely f*** things up, and we could wind up with just the sorts of Morgellon's stuff we see.

The process would look something like this;

Trojan Horse RBCs, containing artificial DNA >>>Liver, where they are broken down into artificial amino acids >>> Bone marrow, where the artificial amino acids are made into stem cells >>> stem cells go into various tissues, where they produce all kinds of Morgellon's "stuff".

Once DNA is broken down to amino acids it is used to build new DNA from your DNA template. A Trojan horse broken down into pieces can't reform into the horse again.

Recombinant DNA can be done in a test tube or petri dish. The human body recognizes foreign DNA and destroys most of it if the person is healthy. That includes cancer DNA with your own mutated DNA by macrophages recognizing abnormal proteins on the cell surface.

What I worry about, is that vaccines are done by test tube, they put a cocktail of DNA with the SV-40 virus (one of the most productive viruses in transferring DNA) and we are now introducing that into the body. Via the bloodstream bypassing the liver. That is more likely your Trojan horse. That leads to the creation of new Super viruses and bacteria. That and overuse of antibiotics selecting for resistance. That disturbs me but I am more 'out on a limb' with that.

[Jean-Marie]

I personally know Fairy Friend and her professional background. Any questions that I have had with the various DNA evolving into twelve strands theories or DNA manipulation theories, I vet through her.

[Selkie]

Cells don't transfer DNA but viruses, plasmids, some bacteria, mitochondria may.

Viruses inject DNA into cells, yes.

But what I am asking is if it is possible that RBCs could be artificially doped with DNA...or even just artificial amino acids...as sort of little Trojan Horses? If they were "universal donor" cells, the body wouldn't even notice they were there. Then, once in the liver, when they are recycled, the artificial amino acids would be released.



The heme group is broken down into iron and bilirubin. The amino acids and iron can either be reused by the cell itself or transported through the blood and into the bone marrow, where the recycled components can be reused to form red blood cells.

I can picture how the artificial amino acids might then be incorporated into different tissues, to wreck all kinds of havoc.

In other words, maybe they don't need to start with foreign DNA at all. Maybe they just need to use foreign, or artificial, amino acids?

The DNA is broken down by the liver just FYI. Red blood cells don't replicate themselves (no nucleus) but come from bone marrow stem cells so no I don't think that would transfer DNA. Other methods are more productive.

Yes, I know that RBCs have no nucleus...I already said that, in a previous post,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85395-The-Human-Artificial-Chromosone-and-Morgellons.-NASA-and-The-Human-Genome.&p=1001298&viewfull=1#post1001298

Well, then, it would be possible to dope RBCs with artificial DNA, which would get broken down into artificial amino acids, other, more productive methods notwithstanding.

And since stem cells come from bone marrow, when the hypothetical artificial amino acids get incorporated into the stem cells, they could end up all over the body, and completely f*** things up, and we could wind up with just the sorts of Morgellon's stuff we see.

The process would look something like this;

Trojan Horse RBCs, containing artificial DNA >>>Liver, where they are broken down into artificial amino acids >>> Bone marrow, where the artificial amino acids are made into stem cells >>> stem cells go into various tissues, where they produce all kinds of Morgellon's "stuff".

Once DNA is broken down to amino acids it is used to build new DNA from your DNA template. A Trojan horse broken down into pieces can't reform into the horse again.

Recombinant DNA can be done in a test tube or petri dish. The human body recognizes foreign DNA and destroys most of it if the person is healthy. That includes cancer DNA with your own mutated DNA by macrophages recognizing abnormal proteins on the cell surface.

What I worry about, is that vaccines are done by test tube, they put a cocktail of DNA with the SV-40 virus (one of the most productive viruses in transferring DNA) and we are now introducing that into the body. Via the bloodstream bypassing the liver. That is more likely your Trojan horse. That leads to the creation of new Super viruses and bacteria. That and overuse of antibiotics selecting for resistance. That disturbs me but I am more 'out on a limb' with that.

If the Trojan Horse contained ARTIFICIAL AMINO ACIDS, of course those amino acids could go anywhere in the body, be incorporated into new cells, and screw up all kinds of processes. If SV-40 is dangerous, and can cause cancer, why couldn't ARTIFICAL AMINO ACIDS cause Morgellon's?

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I personally know Fairy Friend and her professional background. Any questions that I have had with the various DNA evolving into twelve strands theories or DNA manipulation theories, I vet through her.

I'm not asking anyone to vet through me. I'm just trying to imaging how Morgellon's comes about.

[Fairy Friend]

Cells don't transfer DNA but viruses, plasmids, some bacteria, mitochondria may.

Viruses inject DNA into cells, yes.

But what I am asking is if it is possible that RBCs could be artificially doped with DNA...or even just artificial amino acids...as sort of little Trojan Horses? If they were "universal donor" cells, the body wouldn't even notice they were there. Then, once in the liver, when they are recycled, the artificial amino acids would be released.



The heme group is broken down into iron and bilirubin. The amino acids and iron can either be reused by the cell itself or transported through the blood and into the bone marrow, where the recycled components can be reused to form red blood cells.

I can picture how the artificial amino acids might then be incorporated into different tissues, to wreck all kinds of havoc.

In other words, maybe they don't need to start with foreign DNA at all. Maybe they just need to use foreign, or artificial, amino acids?

The DNA is broken down by the liver just FYI. Red blood cells don't replicate themselves (no nucleus) but come from bone marrow stem cells so no I don't think that would transfer DNA. Other methods are more productive.

Yes, I know that RBCs have no nucleus...I already said that, in a previous post,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85395-The-Human-Artificial-Chromosone-and-Morgellons.-NASA-and-The-Human-Genome.&p=1001298&viewfull=1#post1001298

Well, then, it would be possible to dope RBCs with artificial DNA, which would get broken down into artificial amino acids, other, more productive methods notwithstanding.

And since stem cells come from bone marrow, when the hypothetical artificial amino acids get incorporated into the stem cells, they could end up all over the body, and completely f*** things up, and we could wind up with just the sorts of Morgellon's stuff we see.

The process would look something like this;

Trojan Horse RBCs, containing artificial DNA >>>Liver, where they are broken down into artificial amino acids >>> Bone marrow, where the artificial amino acids are made into stem cells >>> stem cells go into various tissues, where they produce all kinds of Morgellon's "stuff".

Once DNA is broken down to amino acids it is used to build new DNA from your DNA template. A Trojan horse broken down into pieces can't reform into the horse again.

Recombinant DNA can be done in a test tube or petri dish. The human body recognizes foreign DNA and destroys most of it if the person is healthy. That includes cancer DNA with your own mutated DNA by macrophages recognizing abnormal proteins on the cell surface.

What I worry about, is that vaccines are done by test tube, they put a cocktail of DNA with the SV-40 virus (one of the most productive viruses in transferring DNA) and we are now introducing that into the body. Via the bloodstream bypassing the liver. That is more likely your Trojan horse. That leads to the creation of new Super viruses and bacteria. That and overuse of antibiotics selecting for resistance. That disturbs me but I am more 'out on a limb' with that.

If the Trojan Horse contained ARTIFICIAL AMINO ACIDS, of course those amino acids could go anywhere in the body, be incorporated into new cells, and screw up all kinds of processes. If SV-40 is dangerous, and can cause cancer, why couldn't ARTIFICAL AMINO ACIDS cause Morgellon's?

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I personally know Fairy Friend and her professional background. Any questions that I have had with the various DNA evolving into twelve strands theories or DNA manipulation theories, I vet through her.

I'm not asking anyone to vet through me. I'm just trying to imaging how Morgellon's comes about.

I guess I need to ask what you mean by artificial amino acids? Because one can call amino acid supplements that you get from the vitamin store artificial.

Aspartame is an artificial amino acid. If it is chemically very different from our natural amino acids the body doesn't process it as well into protein but it can compete with normal amino acids slightly depending on how chemically different it is and how much natural amino acids are present that it's using as building blocks for proteins. And note, there are differences between a healthy adult vs unhealthy or possibly starving individual vs a developing fetus.

[Selkie]

Cells don't transfer DNA but viruses, plasmids, some bacteria, mitochondria may.

Viruses inject DNA into cells, yes.

But what I am asking is if it is possible that RBCs could be artificially doped with DNA...or even just artificial amino acids...as sort of little Trojan Horses? If they were "universal donor" cells, the body wouldn't even notice they were there. Then, once in the liver, when they are recycled, the artificial amino acids would be released.



The heme group is broken down into iron and bilirubin. The amino acids and iron can either be reused by the cell itself or transported through the blood and into the bone marrow, where the recycled components can be reused to form red blood cells.

I can picture how the artificial amino acids might then be incorporated into different tissues, to wreck all kinds of havoc.

In other words, maybe they don't need to start with foreign DNA at all. Maybe they just need to use foreign, or artificial, amino acids?

The DNA is broken down by the liver just FYI. Red blood cells don't replicate themselves (no nucleus) but come from bone marrow stem cells so no I don't think that would transfer DNA. Other methods are more productive.

Yes, I know that RBCs have no nucleus...I already said that, in a previous post,

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85395-The-Human-Artificial-Chromosone-and-Morgellons.-NASA-and-The-Human-Genome.&p=1001298&viewfull=1#post1001298

Well, then, it would be possible to dope RBCs with artificial DNA, which would get broken down into artificial amino acids, other, more productive methods notwithstanding.

And since stem cells come from bone marrow, when the hypothetical artificial amino acids get incorporated into the stem cells, they could end up all over the body, and completely f*** things up, and we could wind up with just the sorts of Morgellon's stuff we see.

The process would look something like this;

Trojan Horse RBCs, containing artificial DNA >>>Liver, where they are broken down into artificial amino acids >>> Bone marrow, where the artificial amino acids are made into stem cells >>> stem cells go into various tissues, where they produce all kinds of Morgellon's "stuff".

Once DNA is broken down to amino acids it is used to build new DNA from your DNA template. A Trojan horse broken down into pieces can't reform into the horse again.

Recombinant DNA can be done in a test tube or petri dish. The human body recognizes foreign DNA and destroys most of it if the person is healthy. That includes cancer DNA with your own mutated DNA by macrophages recognizing abnormal proteins on the cell surface.

What I worry about, is that vaccines are done by test tube, they put a cocktail of DNA with the SV-40 virus (one of the most productive viruses in transferring DNA) and we are now introducing that into the body. Via the bloodstream bypassing the liver. That is more likely your Trojan horse. That leads to the creation of new Super viruses and bacteria. That and overuse of antibiotics selecting for resistance. That disturbs me but I am more 'out on a limb' with that.

If the Trojan Horse contained ARTIFICIAL AMINO ACIDS, of course those amino acids could go anywhere in the body, be incorporated into new cells, and screw up all kinds of processes. If SV-40 is dangerous, and can cause cancer, why couldn't ARTIFICAL AMINO ACIDS cause Morgellon's?

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I personally know Fairy Friend and her professional background. Any questions that I have had with the various DNA evolving into twelve strands theories or DNA manipulation theories, I vet through her.

I'm not asking anyone to vet through me. I'm just trying to imaging how Morgellon's comes about.

I guess I need to ask what you mean by artificial amino acids? Because one can call amino acid supplements that you get from the vitamin store artificial.

Aspartame is an artificial amino acid. If it is chemically very different from our natural amino acids the body doesn't process it as well into protein but it can compete with normal amino acids slightly depending on how chemically different it is and how much natural amino acids are present that it's using as building blocks for proteins. And note, there are differences between a healthy adult vs unhealthy or possibly starving individual vs a developing fetus.

Well, there you go. Since aspartame is an artificial amino acid, and the body doesn't process it very well, then what about artificial amino acids that we don't know about? What if there are even more dangerous amino acids than aspartame that have been created? Why would they stop at aspartame? Who knows what they can create in the secret labs, with their huge black budgets? But something clearly codes for all kinds of weirdness in the body, and I wonder if it doesn't have something to do with stem cells whose function, once they get to the various tissues, has been distorted somehow, possibly through diabolically, intentionally mis-formed amino acids.

I am using the video as a kind of springboard for some semi-informed speculation about Morgellon's. I think the video was probably a dis-information piece. But even dis-information can yield valuable insights when used correctly.

Oh! Maybe not from mis-formed amino acids. What about through intentionally, diabolically mis-formed, artificial NUCLEIC ACIDS!!! What if the Trojan horse RBCs contain artificial NUCLEIC ACIDS??? Now that would lead to a lot of weirdness!

[Fairy Friend]

I believe the video is misinforming too. Anything is possible but nucleic acids too. Body likes what mother nature made better. I am not as informed on Morgellon's disease but from what little I have seen a lot of bad science is floating around.

[Selkie]

I believe the video is misinforming too. Anything is possible but nucleic acids too. Body likes what mother nature made better. I am not as informed on Morgellon's disease but from what little I have seen a lot of bad science is floating around.

Well, I could not agree more. Of course the body prefers what MN provides, not to mention that the video is probably a mis/dis-information piece.

But that does not address what is going on with Morgellon's. I agree with most of what Harald Krautz-Vella has written in his book, which I have read, btw, but I think there is something missing, and as ludicrous as it may sound, I think the video in the OP may have provided a piece of the puzzle.

[Kristin]

Great conversation. I've learned a lot, thank you both!

From the Heart,
Kristin

[Selkie]

I believe the video is misinforming too. Anything is possible but nucleic acids too. Body likes what mother nature made better. I am not as informed on Morgellon's disease but from what little I have seen a lot of bad science is floating around.

I agree, there is a lot of bad science floating around about it, but that is because real science refuses to look into it, having dismissed it as "delusional".

But I think the designation of "delusional" is, itself, destined to be laughed at in the coming years. The evidence is building.

[loveoflife]

I believe the video is misinforming too. Anything is possible but nucleic acids too. Body likes what mother nature made better. I am not as informed on Morgellon's disease but from what little I have seen a lot of bad science is floating around.

Well, I could not agree more. Of course the body prefers what MN provides, not to mention that the video is probably a mis/dis-information piece.

But that does not address what is going on with Morgellon's. I agree with most of what Harald Krautz-Vella has written in his book, which I have read, btw, but I think there is something missing, and as ludicrous as it may sound, I think the video in the OP may have provided a piece of the puzzle.

I would imagine that many on this forum are aware of the shortcomings of mainstream peer reviewed science. How many scientists working in their compartmentalised and specialised fields do not see a bigger picture only parts and for the pieces that they do not understand they refer to another limited specialist who is qualified to have an opinion. They are afraid to comment on anything outside of their specialisation.

Another thing is that many (not only scientists) who devote their lives to working on projects that they believe are for the greater good are actually working for the forces of evil. They suffer from a cognitive dissonance that keeps them blinkered.

Its the secretive Babylonian pyramid structure of control, its not visible to those inside of it. It takes many steps back to get a panoramic view of the bigger picture, and still no one knows who is at the top and what they are doing with all of the information that they have collated, until after the event.

[idiit]

^ loveoflife, excellent post imo. true in so many topics we conspiracy theorists discuss.

[idiit]

new kautz interview out; 1.5 hrs.


German researcher, Harald Kautz Vella joins THC to break down his deep level research into the true nature of the Elite’s campaigns against humanity. According to Harald’s research, an invading version of what is knows as “black goo” landed on our planet roughly 80,000 years ago. This black goo could be considered a type of alien A.I. or a “seed device” for creating life within a biosphere. This invader does not belong here, and has been attempting to unpack it’s program to the determent of our natural order. It contains remnants of it’s original lifeforms, spider type beings, which have been coaxing the elite into carrying out their plans for Earth bound manifestation for as long as we know. Our energies have been used as feed, and our environment has been tweaked to make the people weak. The plan to get these higher dimensional Archonic beings to “hook” into their human husks is getting closer all the time, and is at the heart of the transhumanist agenda.

Recently, Harald has made contact with higher dimensional beings that could be considered “guardians” of the planet, who have assured him these unnatural plans will be disrupted. Time will tell.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcWoFz3s3n0

at 1:25 in higherside chats interviewer mentions an interview that discusses spider like beings that is very similar to kautz's perspectives. for your convenience here is that interview with blogger and Hadibov analyst, James Alfred that higherside chats referenced:


Crrow returns yet again, this time joined by blogger and Hadibov analyst, James Alfred. We largely discuss the latest understanding of several major aspects of the Hadibov material. Most of this understanding comes from James’ recent work in clarifying many of the murky details and his success in breaking down this dense material.

Dig into James Alfred’s detailed breakdowns on his blog: http://sagesigma.blogspot.com/

Check out Crrow’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Crrow777



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK9ivsbuW70

this is new material from two new sources; Alfred, Hadibov

highersidechats looks to have some killer interviews on many topics of interest to us projectavalon mongers. :)

here is a link to the highersidechats stuff:

http://thehighersidechats.com/category/podcast/

^ bodes portentious for some great stuff. :)

[loveoflife]

Harald mentions chemtrails and mentions how nanos cluster in the body to create an AI. So i started a thread here with featuring someone who says the same and provides a solution. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85520-Chemtrails-Nanos-and-a-treatment-that-claims-to-cure.


Also Kautz-Vella has his homeopathic formulas? Black Goo and White Goo in particular, does anyone know what they are for and what they do? http://www.timeloopsolution.com/english/index_e.html

There is no English translation for this site selling the remedies. http://www.biopure.eu/sonstiges-und-neues/kautz-vella/

[Fairy Friend]

I believe the video is misinforming too. Anything is possible but nucleic acids too. Body likes what mother nature made better. I am not as informed on Morgellon's disease but from what little I have seen a lot of bad science is floating around.

Well, I could not agree more. Of course the body prefers what MN provides, not to mention that the video is probably a mis/dis-information piece.

But that does not address what is going on with Morgellon's. I agree with most of what Harald Krautz-Vella has written in his book, which I have read, btw, but I think there is something missing, and as ludicrous as it may sound, I think the video in the OP may have provided a piece of the puzzle.

I would imagine that many on this forum are aware of the shortcomings of mainstream peer reviewed science. How many scientists working in their compartmentalised and specialised fields do not see a bigger picture only parts and for the pieces that they do not understand they refer to another limited specialist who is qualified to have an opinion. They are afraid to comment on anything outside of their specialisation.

Another thing is that many (not only scientists) who devote their lives to working on projects that they believe are for the greater good are actually working for the forces of evil. They suffer from a cognitive dissonance that keeps them blinkered.

Its the secretive Babylonian pyramid structure of control, its not visible to those inside of it. It takes many steps back to get a panoramic view of the bigger picture, and still no one knows who is at the top and what they are doing with all of the information that they have collated, until after the event.

When someone takes my work and twists into something it is not, I find it very irritating. Honestly, I dismiss everything else he has to say.

Well, this is my specialized field and when we put out these research publications it was not mainstream. My pictures are better than what he shows. Research publication implies new insights, information or data and by definition is not mainstream yet. After decades now it is now considered mainstream being confirmed by many methods, dyes even studying DNA replication.

If the details don't match the big picture, you need to rethink the big picture.