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Calz
21st September 2015, 20:37
You cannot say we have not been warned.

WTF happened here peeps???



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiQOKpa5nhQ

barneythez
21st September 2015, 23:39
Hang on....this is going to be one hell of a ride. We all know what to do when the SHTF, right? Good, we'll have a moment in time, to change the course. We all know where we are headed.....right? What's plan B? I forgot.

Selkie
21st September 2015, 23:53
I read a wonderful saying one time,

"No one has to ban the books, if no one can read the books."

although I cannot remember who said it.

addition The actual saying is "No one has to ban the books or burn the books if no one can read the books."

joeecho
22nd September 2015, 00:03
The irony is that all of these people that he quoted were a part of the system they condemned.

It's like killing someone and apologizing to them over their dead body.

Calz
22nd September 2015, 00:10
The irony is that all of these people that he quoted were a part of the system they condemned.

It's like killing someone and apologizing to them over their dead body.


There have always been voices within the system raising objections to what was going on.

So ... say Ron Paul trying to bring the Fed to light ... he was part of the system.

Are you condemning him for his effort to bring out the truth of the matter???

joeecho
22nd September 2015, 00:24
The irony is that all of these people that he quoted were a part of the system they condemned.

It's like killing someone and apologizing to them over their dead body.


There have always been voices within the system raising objections to what was going on.

So ... say Ron Paul trying to bring the Fed to light ... he was part of the system.

Are you condemning him for his effort to bring out the truth of the matter???

What I said was that it is ironic and irony makes it's own statement on the state of affairs.

http://www.politifake.org/image/political/1301/irony-asking-government-battaile-politics-1359414159.jpg

observer
22nd September 2015, 02:01
Here's some irony for you to consider:


It's a well known fact the Bush/Clinton Cabal goes way back to the days of Oliver North, Barry Seal, Mena Airport, the Drugs for Guns Iran Contra Affair, and a secret control of our Federal Government that continues into this next election.
There is no secret that the Obama administration has been a continuation of that Bush/Clinton Cabal right down to the root "circle of secrecy" in that Cabal - the international Banksters.
It isn't hard to figure-out each candidate being offered for public choice is another operative in this continuing Cabal.
It's also a sure bet that either a Bush or a Clinton will become our next President.

So, herein lies the irony: the dumb-a$$ed morons that represent the voting public will simply choose another of these candidates and the world will continue to spiral into oblivion. Ain't that ironic???

Get me another beer, Martha, while all of us "Real Americans" watch the Big Game on Sunday....

Cidersomerset
22nd September 2015, 09:07
This is a bit of De Ja vous or continuity as my last post was more or less on this
subject.....I am a history buff both military , social and especially alternate, but
I find if you do not understand and know what came before , we are probably
destined to repeat the same mistakes.

Now going on from there I'm pretty sure the elites use this in their planning,
and use terms to describe them like 'Banking or economic cycles' etc.....

I know you like a musical interlude Calz and many songs are social observations..
Cabaret set in 1930's Berlin just as the NASI were coming to power and we know
what happened then.

Cabaret- Money

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I just clicked on Davids Headline page and the first article is.........'WTF' !!

" Cold war 2 anybody " ? or " Hot war 3 " ? Both options are in the PTB play book .


U.S. Will Station New Nuclear Weapons in Germany Against Russia

http://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/get-attachment-469.jpg

http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/u-s-will-station-new-nuclear-weapons-in-germany-against-russia/
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Post # 179 ....from Bills thread...

Re: Bill Ryan's new interview with REBEKAH ROTH, 11 September, 2015



The "why" of what was done is far more important than the details.
Assigning blame can also be a distraction from understanding what we need
to do to navigate past the ditch in the road ahead as comfortably as possible.

That is what I try to point out on some of my posts. For me its a given 9/11 was
an inside job. It would be great to find out how ? and prosecute the guilty. But as
with JFK when the crime is so big and in plain sight its not hard to get the public
to 'demand' justice. But it is hard to find the truth especially when all the main
organs of government , military , corporate media and even parts of the judiciary
are bought and paid for financially or by blackmail and in some cases ignorance
thru compartmentalisation. Like in the JFK case , when Oswald , Cuba and the
Soviets could be blamed in the mainstream straight away, and encouraged by
government. So the same with 9/11 with Bin Laden , Afghanistan and Iraq. All of
which had nothing to do the neo -con / zionist coup in America on 9/11.But were
blamed from the get go and many still believe they did it today.....

Simple facts like , why was no one sacked over the biggest failure in US military
history ? Quo Bono , who benefited ? follow the money ? The continuing war on
terror. The Zionist neo-con agenda being played out in front our eyes and much
more. All in the name of revenge for 9/11.

So why would any muslim faction or nation have planned this operation knowing
the 'wrath of the great Satan' in their eyes ? I don't think so.

History tells us time and time again that these 'false flag' events are organised by
darker forces behind the scenes of whatever government front or organisation they
are funding at any particular time.

Even Admiral Yamamoto when planning the Pearl Harbour attacks knew,
that waking the sleeping giant would unleash an mil industrial monster
on the world, that like a rogue Gene would be very difficult to put back
in its bottle......

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-i-fear-all-we-have-done-is-to-awaken-a-sleeping-giant-and-fill-him-with-a-terrible-resolve-isoroku-yamamoto-32-22-16.jpg

I know most on here know this but there are people looking in all the time..

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On the subject of Japan I knew there was something I wanted to post
somewhere and most of these actions are linked. Japan has just passed
a bill allowing them to send combat troops abroad since WW11. This
is I think to help the US if there is a conflict involving North Korea or
China in the near future...


Japan readies for war? New military bill sparks fierce protests

By David Icke on 20th September 2015

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Published on 19 Sep 2015


Thousands have rallied in Japan against the controversial military bill, passed by
the parliament. Since now Japanese forces will be allowed to fight overseas. The
demonstrations show this is far from being universally welcomed.

READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6rqt

This is also a throw back to imperial Japans secret police.....

Japan Moves To Totalitarian Surveillance Society

By David Icke on 21st September 2015

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/09/20/national/ready-not-government-will-soon-number/#.Vf_Hft9Vikq


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https://missiongalacticfreedom.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/history_repeats____ih3_ggpht_com.jpg?w=540
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QGeSXkZBoWU/UPNIWO51ynI/AAAAAAAABPI/ODXrD6zwRxc/s1600/reichstag-fire.jpg

https://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/History+always+repeats+itself+unless+you+do+something+about+it_eca1a8_3797683.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85202-Bill-Ryan-s-new-interview-with-REBEKAH-ROTH-11-September-2015&p=1001331#post1001331

idiit
22nd September 2015, 09:53
^ affirming cidersomerset's post re usa positioning nuclear weapons on Russia border:


U.S. Will Station New Nuclear Weapons in Germany Against Russia
Posted on September 21, 2015 by Eric Zuesse.


Germany’s ZDF public television network headlines on Tuesday September 22nd, “New U.S. Atomic Weapons to Be Stationed in Germany,” and reports that the U.S. will bring into Germany 20 new nuclear bombs, each being four times the destructive power of the one that was used on Hiroshima. Hans Kristensen, the Director of the Nuclear Information Project at the Federation of American Scientists, says, “With the new bombs the boundaries blur between tactical and strategic nuclear weapons.”

A former Parliamentary State Secretary in Germany’s Defense Ministry, Willy Wimmer, of Chancellor Merkel’s own conservative party, the Christian Democratic Union, warns that these “new attack options against Russia” constitute “a conscious provocation of our Russian neighbors.”

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/09/u-s-will-station-new-nuclear-weapons-in-germany-against-russia.html

Cidersomerset
22nd September 2015, 14:15
This might of been quoted in the original vid , but I have listened
to Jaque Vallee on C2C , posted several thread updates and am listening
to Jim Marrs talk about 'remote viewing' following on from the Vallee int...
( I feel a thread coming on )..LOL

Anyway I'm using this as a thread bump ! ...Who said only women can
multi task ? ...LOL. ( though they probably do it better) !!

http://americanfreedomunion.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/1-banksters-Napoleon-quote.jpg

And who thought that 70's/80's glam rock band ABBA were such philosophers ...

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I liked ABBA as a kid and had ABBAS greatest hits and several singles, seems
a long time ago now....

Abba - Money, Money, Money

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Sophocles
23rd September 2015, 01:23
About those nuclear weapons. Here is a (translated) article from a norwegian blog (steigan.no):


US deploys new nuclear weapons in Germany

In the negotiations for a coalition government in Germany in 2009 current Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier (SPD) demanded that the US nuclear weapons be withdrawn from German soil. (http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/nuklearwaffen-in-deutschland-steinmeier-fordert-abzug-von-us-atombomben-a-618398.html) Chancellor Angela Merkel showed no enthusiasm for this claim, but it was still part of the coalition government`s political platform. (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuklearwaffen_in_Deutschland#Im_wiedervereinigten_Deutschland)

Now Germany are breaking this agreement, writes Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten. (http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2015/09/21/merkel-einverstanden-usa-stationieren-neue-atombomben-in-deutschland/)

Therefore, german tax payers now have to pay up to help increase the danger of a war in Europe. Maria Sacharowa, who is spokesman for Russia`s Foreign Ministry said that Moscow sees this as a violation of paragraph 1 of the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

We are most likely talking about some type of tactical nuclear weapons (B61-12) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb) that can be adapted to conventional weapons systems and which blur the distinction between tactical and strategic weapons. This creates a smoother transition to the use of nuclear weapons and can thus help to lower the threshold for using such weapons.

22. september

Source (in norwegian) (http://steigan.no/2015/09/22/usa-utplasserer-nye-atomvapen-i-tyskland/)