Who says people aren't waking up?

[Ted]

1/2 of Americans see their government as threat – poll

Almost half of the US population - 49 percent - regards the government as a threat to their lives and liberty, according to a new Gallup poll. Distrust in the federal government has been on the rise since 2006, when it stood at 46 percent.
The poll was conducted between September 9 and September 13, and included an open-ended question whether the US government was an “immediate threat to the rights and freedoms of ordinary citizens.” Two in three Republicans and one in three Democrats answered yes, Gallup noted.

Among those agreeing, one in five was most concerned about the government becoming too big, too powerful, and having too many laws. Another 15 percent cited violations of freedoms and civil liberties, while 12 percent cited gun control efforts and threats to the 2nd amendment.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPbFuGFWcAAa6H9.jpg

A September 9 poll conducted by UK researcher YouGov indicated that a third of the country would back a military coup, and that the public perceived the military as far more inclined to act in the public interest than Congress. :eyebrows:

http://www.rt.com/usa/316139-govt-immediate-threat-poll/

[lucidity]

Good post :-)

However, the graph has cut off the vertical axis so it makes it look
as if there's been more growth than there has in reality.
Try extending the y-axis down to 0 and up to 100% and you'll see the
true picture appears much more horizontal.

According to the graph, Americans have woken up 5% in nearly 10 years.
They clearly need more coffee ...or a good shaking.

On the other hand, Americans work too hard, they simply haven't got the time to
think about trivialities like totalitarianism, global proxy wars, nukes in china
or funding foreign terrorism.

Perhaps all that will change soon with the soaring unemployment rates.

be happy :-)

lucidity

[Ted]

There's still a long way to go, but it's encouraging that a large percentage of the population see the government as an actual threat, and not just a nuisance. We can only hope the number continues to grow.

[giovonni]

There's still a long way to go, but it's encouraging that a large percentage of the population see the government as an actual threat, and not just a nuisance. We can only hope the number continues to grow.

Yes indeedy ...

And just because those newly awakening don't spend all their time on conspiracy forums
(as those of us here on the vanguard), doesn't mean it is not happening faster than not ... ;)

[observer]

If you really believe that Americans are "waking-up", than go sell that pile of bull$hit to the estimated four million Syrian Refugees currently fleeing their homeland in an effort to save their lives - all at the hand of Israeli/US political strategy.

Americans are waking-up, indeed !!!

[giovonni]

If you really believe that Americans are "waking-up", than go sell that pile of bull$hit to the estimated four million Syrian Refugees currently fleeing their homeland in an effort to save their lives - all at the hand of Israeli/US political strategy.

Americans are waking-up, indeed !!!

You live too close to New Jersey, come out West.

PS - i wouldn't associate waking up with US/Israeli government policies.

[observer]

If you really believe that Americans are "waking-up", than go sell that pile of bull$hit to the estimated four million Syrian Refugees currently fleeing their homeland in an effort to save their lives - all at the hand of Israeli/US political strategy.

Americans are waking-up, indeed !!!

You live too close to New Jersey, come out West.

Oh!!! Right, to the land of mandatory vaccinations.... that's the ticket....

[thunder24]

If you really believe that Americans are "waking-up", than go sell that pile of bull$hit to the estimated four million Syrian Refugees currently fleeing their homeland in an effort to save their lives - all at the hand of Israeli/US political strategy.

Americans are waking-up, indeed !!!

i have a fellow avalonian staying with me right now who is in his early-mid 20s... the people he has contacting him from all over the world to me is amazing... they are all between 18-30 and are having dreams and visions of things to come... are seeing humans as humans not as migrants, male or female,etc... for me it is very encouraging to see this, however they do not have the background research or where-with-all to approach country/global problems at their root... which is understandable to me given the age of distraction we live in... for me what I am hearing it is encouragement to me soul...

That being said, strictly speaking about americans as a whole, those "waking-up" and not trusting the government, do not know what to do as a whole to fix this place...this is what Im seeing... Its knowing something is wrong and crying like a baby but not knowing how to fix it... they have not let go of their biases, racist thoughts, nor selfish attitudes... It is only because they are now feeling the "heat" that it seems that americans as a whole are "waking up" in reference to the subject of the original post...

reminds me of that saying about "...they came for the socialist but i was not socialist so didn't say anything, they came for the preacher but im not christian so i didn't say anything...etc"

If it is not to late, the 30 yr olds down, givin time are gonna surprise the hell out of us... let us hope we have that much time to change the landscape of the minds and actions on earth...

[Selkie]

I think Ted is correct. The state of our government here is no indication that people aren't waking up. As an analogy, a neighborhood that has been seized by gangsters can be totally aware and awake to the fact, and yet still be unable to do anything about it. The whole world is the same straits. People are waking up, but there aren't enough awake, yet. But honestly, I think time is on our side. Everything they do only makes it more obvious what they are doing. Every day, they tip their hand a little more.

[thunder24]

I think Ted is correct. The state of our government here is no indication that people aren't waking up. As an analogy, a neighborhood that has been seized by gangsters can be totally aware and awake to the fact, and yet still be unable to do anything about it. The whole world is the same straits. People are waking up, but there aren't enough awake, yet. But honestly, I think time is on our side. Everything they do only makes it more obvious what they are doing. Every day, they tip their hand a little more.

we need to keep in mind also that being "awake" isn't necessarily being informed....that is the problem..... many saying they are awake or wakeing up are not informed as a whole to what is going on nor the background of information to know what to do... and this is where (imo) people need to be ready to inform those new kittens just opening their eyes... and not let them think that "they've made it" , but to inform them "they have just begun a new journey"

as for myself, I do not say I am awake nor need to be an informer, just stateing what I see with opinion...

[Selkie]

There's still a long way to go, but it's encouraging that a large percentage of the population see the government as an actual threat, and not just a nuisance. We can only hope the number continues to grow.

I agree. And funny, how when someone demonstrates progress, as Ted has done, its immediately leaped upon as NOT GOOD ENOUGH. So I hope that peeps can stop hating on Americans for two seconds, and give credit where credit is due.

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I think Ted is correct. The state of our government here is no indication that people aren't waking up. As an analogy, a neighborhood that has been seized by gangsters can be totally aware and awake to the fact, and yet still be unable to do anything about it. The whole world is the same straits. People are waking up, but there aren't enough awake, yet. But honestly, I think time is on our side. Everything they do only makes it more obvious what they are doing. Every day, they tip their hand a little more.

we need to keep in mind also that being "awake" isn't necessarily being informed....that is the problem..... many saying they are awake or wakeing up are not informed as a whole to what is going on nor the background of information to know what to do... and this is where (imo) people need to be ready to inform those new kittens just opening their eyes... and not let them think that "they've made it" , but to inform them "they have just begun a new journey"

as for myself, I do not say I am awake nor need to be an informer, just stateing what I see with opinion...

Well, give people a chance, for chrissake.

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If you really believe that Americans are "waking-up", than go sell that pile of bull$hit to the estimated four million Syrian Refugees currently fleeing their homeland in an effort to save their lives - all at the hand of Israeli/US political strategy.

Americans are waking-up, indeed !!!

Yes, they are waking up. Just because they are not as awake as you would like them to be is beside the point.

[thunder24]

we need to keep in mind also that being "awake" isn't necessarily being informed....that is the problem..... many saying they are awake or wakeing up are not informed as a whole to what is going on nor the background of information to know what to do... and this is where (imo) people need to be ready to inform those new kittens just opening their eyes... and not let them think that "they've made it" , but to inform them "they have just begun a new journey"

as for myself, I do not say I am awake nor need to be an informer, just stateing what I see with opinion...


Well, give people a chance, for chrissake.

Im sorry you think I don't... I was giving an observation with encouragement in my opinion... but we know what opinions are like dont we...

and who is Chris?!:bigsmile:

[Selkie]

we need to keep in mind also that being "awake" isn't necessarily being informed....that is the problem..... many saying they are awake or wakeing up are not informed as a whole to what is going on nor the background of information to know what to do... and this is where (imo) people need to be ready to inform those new kittens just opening their eyes... and not let them think that "they've made it" , but to inform them "they have just begun a new journey"

as for myself, I do not say I am awake nor need to be an informer, just stateing what I see with opinion...


Well, give people a chance, for chrissake.

Im sorry you think I don't... I was giving an observation with encouragement in my opinion... but we know what opinions are like dont we...

and who is Chris?!:bigsmile:

I meant, give them a chance to inform themselves once they've woken up. Waking up can be a big shock. People often lose all their friends and family when they wake up. I certainly did.

Lesson in American English: chrissake:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/Chrissake

:bigsmile: ;)

[thunder24]

we need to keep in mind also that being "awake" isn't necessarily being informed....that is the problem..... many saying they are awake or wakeing up are not informed as a whole to what is going on nor the background of information to know what to do... and this is where (imo) people need to be ready to inform those new kittens just opening their eyes... and not let them think that "they've made it" , but to inform them "they have just begun a new journey"

as for myself, I do not say I am awake nor need to be an informer, just stateing what I see with opinion...


Well, give people a chance, for chrissake.

Im sorry you think I don't... I was giving an observation with encouragement in my opinion... but we know what opinions are like dont we...

and who is Chris?!:bigsmile:

I meant, give them a chance to inform themselves once they've woken up. Waking up can be a big shock. People often lose all their friends and family when they wake up. I certainly did.

Lesson in American English: chrissake:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/Chrissake

:bigsmile: ;)

waking up can be a big shock, thus why i said what i did about having people that can help inform those "waking up"...

and sorry we don't speak American english here in my part of the Appalachian mountains... but thankyou for "informing" me... you might be the kind of person i was talking about that would be "informers"... ;)

[Selkie]

we need to keep in mind also that being "awake" isn't necessarily being informed....that is the problem..... many saying they are awake or wakeing up are not informed as a whole to what is going on nor the background of information to know what to do... and this is where (imo) people need to be ready to inform those new kittens just opening their eyes... and not let them think that "they've made it" , but to inform them "they have just begun a new journey"

as for myself, I do not say I am awake nor need to be an informer, just stateing what I see with opinion...


Well, give people a chance, for chrissake.

Im sorry you think I don't... I was giving an observation with encouragement in my opinion... but we know what opinions are like dont we...

and who is Chris?!:bigsmile:

I meant, give them a chance to inform themselves once they've woken up. Waking up can be a big shock. People often lose all their friends and family when they wake up. I certainly did.

Lesson in American English: chrissake:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/Chrissake

:bigsmile: ;)

waking up can be a big shock, thus why i said what i did about having people that can help inform those "waking up"...

and sorry we don't speak American english here in my part of the Appalachian mountains... but thankyou for "informing" me... you might be the kind of person i was talking about that would be "informers"... ;)

Glad I could be of help :)

[observer]

[....snip]


If you really believe that Americans are "waking-up", than go sell that pile of bull$hit to the estimated four million Syrian Refugees currently fleeing their homeland in an effort to save their lives - all at the hand of Israeli/US political strategy.

Americans are waking-up, indeed !!!

Yes, they are waking up. Just because they are not as awake as you would like them to be is beside the point.

My comment had nothing to do with what I would like to see. It was directed at how far short of the target we really are, and how - even those who think they are awake - have no clue how dangerously close we are to the tipping-point.

Within the next 8 days we could be facing the trigger-event for World War III. Is the world awake enough for that to occur while we all enjoy a "spot of morning tea.... down on the veranda"?

"Look Mommy, what's that funny-shaped cloud over the city?"

And, to my good friend Giovinni:




[....snip]

PS - i wouldn't associate waking up with US/Israeli government policies.

Name for me at least one incumbent politician down in D.C. with whom the Israeli Government isn't deep into their pocket. This situation has been expediting over the past 50+ years to the total obfuscation of the American Voting Public.

Israeli control of Washington's policies is the root of the problem, and few among us are awake to that understanding.

"For the sake of one righteous man, would thou then not destroy this place?"

Remember this: Benghazi was a clandestine US/Rebel arms deal gone bad (http://www.surenews.com/world/ambassador-stevens-death-may-be-result-of-arms-deal-gone-bad/), and allegations that the Ghouta Chemical Attack (http://www.mintpressnews.com/the-failed-pretext-for-war-seymour-hersh-eliot-higgins-mit-professors-on-sarin-gas-attack/188597/)of 2013 was the result of poorly trained insurgents mishandling sarin gas has never gone away.

These are among the reasons for the current state-of-affairs in the region.

[Michelle]

Before the vaccination bill was signed, California did stand up to it. Around 50 people showed up that were for vaccinations However, they stopped counting at the 1,300 who were against that stood there. There was no room for all who were against vaccinations. Many people carried with them sheets of signatures that had thousands more on it that were against vaccinations as well. Some children were there speaking out against mandatory vaccinations and some were damaged by the vaccinations. Pan has been under fire for being in bed with the same pharmaceutical companies that are for forced vaccinations. We are all in an uproar about it here. It is not over. Me and thousands and thousands of others are working to get this abolished. Have faith. We are trying out here!;)

[Megrubbieswet]

People all around the world are being informed, starting their journey of unconditional love, finding their highest selves and truths. I feel this is true because the control system is slowly being crushed, and its rapidly increasing because so many people are becoming informed! I feel though being awake is a different story though. I honestly don't know who I was in this previous life time, I only really know myself here. But i did incarnate here for an indefinite reason and many other people in other soul groups did as well. I'm only 17, I have been so slack these last months, and i feel like its all caught up to me.. But still I've come so far. To a new beginning everyone!

[Selkie]

[....snip]


If you really believe that Americans are "waking-up", than go sell that pile of bull$hit to the estimated four million Syrian Refugees currently fleeing their homeland in an effort to save their lives - all at the hand of Israeli/US political strategy.

Americans are waking-up, indeed !!!

Yes, they are waking up. Just because they are not as awake as you would like them to be is beside the point.

My comment had nothing to do with what I would like to see. It was directed at how far short of the target we really are, and how - even those who think they are awake - have no clue how dangerously close we are to the tipping-point.

Within the next 8 days we could be facing the trigger-event for World War III. Is the world awake enough for that to occur while we all enjoy a "spot of morning tea.... down on the veranda"?

"Look Mommy, what's that funny-shaped cloud over the city?"

And, to my good friend Giovinni:




[....snip]

PS - i wouldn't associate waking up with US/Israeli government policies.

Name for me at least one incumbent politician down in D.C. with whom the Israeli Government isn't deep into their pocket. This situation has been expediting over the past 50+ years to the total obfuscation of the American Voting Public.

Israeli control of Washington's policies is the root of the problem, and few among us are awake to that understanding.

"For the sake of one righteous man, would thou then not destroy this place?"

Remember this: Benghazi was a clandestine US/Rebel arms deal gone bad (http://www.surenews.com/world/ambassador-stevens-death-may-be-result-of-arms-deal-gone-bad/), and allegations that the Ghouta Chemical Attack (http://www.mintpressnews.com/the-failed-pretext-for-war-seymour-hersh-eliot-higgins-mit-professors-on-sarin-gas-attack/188597/)of 2013 was the result of poorly trained insurgents mishandling sarin gas has never gone away.

These are among the reasons for the current state-of-affairs in the region.

I am just so dismayed that people can find negativity in good news like Ted has posted, and use it as yet another excuse to hate on Americans and run us down. Its like we can't do anything right. Someone will always find fault.

And maybe that's because people make the mistake of thinking that there is a republic in America, or even a democracy. I don't blame them for thinking it...after all, it is a myth that is widely believed by just about everyone, especially the Americans, themselves. We are the first victims of that psy-op, after all.

But its not true. We don't live in a democracy, or even a republic. The fact is that we in the States live in a plutocratic oligarchy. Just like every other country.

So I wish that the world would stop holding the American people to some impossible standard, and then finding fault when we don't meet it. It runs us down, and makes it even less likely that we will do anything about it.

"...I'm junk but I'm still holdin' up this little wild bouquet."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU-RuR-qO4Y

p.s. I understand you about the tipping point, but the world goes to war when the bankers say we go to war, the wishes of the public notwithstanding, not just in the U.S., but everywhere.

[FinallyNow]

This thread sounds much like what runs through my little noggin' on any given day depending upon the circumstances and interactions i see around me or independently of any interactions. For me it's amazing to consider the possibility that there is a significant percentage of the population that simply does not want the types of positive change we do and do quite a bit to prevent their peers and family from seeing and following those inklings. That gets into some distracting directions on the unseen side but appears to me to be the case.

I think spiritually speaking you can have many say of the youngest adult generations who are awake to a great degree as they can see the economic reality staring at them straight in the eye as they've been sold something that is 'less possible' and unlikely and yet those same folks will react against any push by people or their own intuitive forces and allow cognitive dissonance to get the better of them.

It's really quite a mess on the surface and yet. There is so much more good happening everyday but we know what gets the attention.

[danegeroussacredgeometry]

People all around the world are being informed, starting their journey of unconditional love, finding their highest selves and truths. I feel this is true because the control system is slowly being crushed, and its rapidly increasing because so many people are becoming informed! I feel though being awake is a different story though. I honestly don't know who I was in this previous life time, I only really know myself here. But i did incarnate here for an indefinite reason and many other people in other soul groups did as well. I'm only 17, I have been so slack these last months, and i feel like its all caught up to me.. But still I've come so far. To a new beginning everyone!

I completely agree with your post. :handshake: Pleased to meet you!

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I can only speak from my experience regarding the question at hand but I DO see people waking up to the deceptions, distractions, and destructions going on in the world. I too am in my early 20’s. For me, “waking up” is a lifelong journey but it would not have been the same had I not met individuals along the way who were willing to share their wisdom with me. I sat, recently, at a friend’s house with three other people at a table and we all shared what we had been experiencing or hypothesized, or knew factually. This helps A LOT because together we were all able to make connections based off where we were all at. I’ve learned that EVERYONE has something they can teach us ☺ These specific individuals had over 10 years each of researching all this stuff and I seemed to be a lot like the newborn child opening his eyes lol. But it’s important to note that each of these individuals didn’t just spit out “what they knew to me” like “hey kid this is the way it is… now accept it and move on.” Not at all. We would converse and they would show me where they learned the information... And then would leave me at peace to find my own way afterward.

Selkie, you said to give others time to find out for themselves. I strongly disagree. We need to come together.

There is an enormous amount of bull**** out there and it becomes ever more increasingly difficult to figure out what’s true and what isn’t. Well that’s where the older generation can help my generation out. There are a multitude of individuals here on Avalon who freely speak of the knowledge they have obtained. This is fantastic, but it’s also a lot easier sharing our truth through a computer screen. Anonymity can be a double-edged sword. But I do wonder how many share these things with individuals in their daily lives. (Not saying some don’t I just believe it would be powerful for all to do so). Yes, this forum is incredible and I have grown a lot through attempting to see the world through all of your different perspectives.

Which is why I am pleading with you all in lue of this! Teach those around you what you may know in a setting beyond the screen. Plant seeds wherever you go! Some may fall upon the thorns or be picked up by the birds of the air… but some may hit the ground and begin to sprout roots and flourish.

We are all teachers... But a good teacher is merely a catalyst for change. Never a forceful giver of truth but rather a guide… a pointer to truth that each student must find for himself.

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I was told a great story about a man who held a glass vial around his neck. He pulled it out to show someone and took off the top of the vial. “Inside”, he said… “Is a mustard seed… one of the smallest yet mightiest seeds in the world!” And then he grabbed the seed, put it back in his vial, and hung it once gain around his neck.

What’s the use of this knowledge if you don’t use it to help others who were once like you when you woke up to the deceptions, distractions, and destructions ever present in our world? Remember how you felt when you realized most of what you thought was real was actually deception?
This is a forum filled with an immense amount of wisdom. Please continue to share it with my generation! Don’t lose hope because I promise there are many young’ins like myself who have been blessed by those older with much more experience. You just may be the individual who helped a seed flourish and grow who happened to cross my path and did the same for me. So if you have made a living in sowing seeds. Thank you!!! It is because of people like you that my generation is beginning to wake up and hopefully if enough of us do awaken we can leave this world in a better place by the time we are no longer the young’ins ;)

[A Voice from the Mountains]

However, the graph has cut off the vertical axis so it makes it look
as if there's been more growth than there has in reality.
Try extending the y-axis down to 0 and up to 100% and you'll see the
true picture appears much more horizontal.

According to the graph, Americans have woken up 5% in nearly 10 years.
They clearly need more coffee ...or a good shaking.

I'm not sure how you got 5% in 10 years, lucidity. The numbers I am seeing are 30% in 2003, and 49% in 2015. That's a difference of 19% in 12 years.

Also, the x-axis has been cut off, too. Imagine what these numbers would have looked like in the 1950's, when "Leave It to Beaver" was the model American family. :)

[Selkie]

People all around the world are being informed, starting their journey of unconditional love, finding their highest selves and truths. I feel this is true because the control system is slowly being crushed, and its rapidly increasing because so many people are becoming informed! I feel though being awake is a different story though. I honestly don't know who I was in this previous life time, I only really know myself here. But i did incarnate here for an indefinite reason and many other people in other soul groups did as well. I'm only 17, I have been so slack these last months, and i feel like its all caught up to me.. But still I've come so far. To a new beginning everyone!

I completely agree with your post. :handshake: Pleased to meet you!

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I can only speak from my experience regarding the question at hand but I DO see people waking up to the deceptions, distractions, and destructions going on in the world. I too am in my early 20’s. For me, “waking up” is a lifelong journey but it would not have been the same had I not met individuals along the way who were willing to share their wisdom with me. I sat, recently, at a friend’s house with three other people at a table and we all shared what we had been experiencing or hypothesized, or knew factually. This helps A LOT because together we were all able to make connections based off where we were all at. I’ve learned that EVERYONE has something they can teach us ☺ These specific individuals had over 10 years each of researching all this stuff and I seemed to be a lot like the newborn child opening his eyes lol. But it’s important to note that each of these individuals didn’t just spit out “what they knew to me” like “hey kid this is the way it is… now accept it and move on.” Not at all. We would converse and they would show me where they learned the information... And then would leave me at peace to find my own way afterward.

Selkie, you said to give others time to find out for themselves. I strongly disagree. We need to come together.

There is an enormous amount of bull**** out there and it becomes ever more increasingly difficult to figure out what’s true and what isn’t. Well that’s where the older generation can help my generation out. There are a multitude of individuals here on Avalon who freely speak of the knowledge they have obtained. This is fantastic, but it’s also a lot easier sharing our truth through a computer screen. Anonymity can be a double-edged sword. But I do wonder how many share these things with individuals in their daily lives. (Not saying some don’t I just believe it would be powerful for all to do so). Yes, this forum is incredible and I have grown a lot through attempting to see the world through all of your different perspectives.

Which is why I am pleading with you all in lue of this! Teach those around you what you may know in a setting beyond the screen. Plant seeds wherever you go! Some may fall upon the thorns or be picked up by the birds of the air… but some may hit the ground and begin to sprout roots and flourish.

We are all teachers... But a good teacher is merely a catalyst for change. Never a forceful giver of truth but rather a guide… a pointer to truth that each student must find for himself.

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I was told a great story about a man who held a glass vial around his neck. He pulled it out to show someone and took off the top of the vial. “Inside”, he said… “Is a mustard seed… one of the smallest yet mightiest seeds in the world!” And then he grabbed the seed, put it back in his vial, and hung it once gain around his neck.

What’s the use of this knowledge if you don’t use it to help others who were once like you when you woke up to the deceptions, distractions, and destructions ever present in our world? Remember how you felt when you realized most of what you thought was real was actually deception?
This is a forum filled with an immense amount of wisdom. Please continue to share it with my generation! Don’t lose hope because I promise there are many young’ins like myself who have been blessed by those older with much more experience. You just may be the individual who helped a seed flourish and grow who happened to cross my path and did the same for me. So if you have made a living in sowing seeds. Thank you!!! It is because of people like you that my generation is beginning to wake up and hopefully if enough of us do awaken we can leave this world in a better place by the time we are no longer the young’ins ;)

I don't like "helping" and I don't like "helpers", and I am not going to go around trying to "wake people up", or try to make them "see" that there is something wrong with them, or how they live, or what they think. Should I go around proselytizing in order that we may "come together" (whatever that means) like some New Age Jehovah's Witnesses? Ugh! New Age Fundamentalism :thumbsdown: I'd rather convert to the Jehovah's Witnesses :silent:

Like it or not, people have a right to what they believe, and a right to how they live, and they have the right to live in peace without being prevailed upon to change to anyone's idea of what is right, no matter how convinced the other is of the rightness of THEIR own beliefs or way of life.

[thunder24]

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[observer]

....click on forwarding icon to see danegeroussacredgeometry's comment #21

In my personal life, I am looked upon as the 'elephant in the room'.

Not a conversation goes-by when I don't attempt to give the same sort of detail to my acquaintances and family that I'm accustom to giving, here in Avalon. I don't push the information on anybody, but I make it clear, there is so much we don't understand.

I don't get invited to many parties, and few of my old friends wish to converse with me as a result.

I see it all as, the majority just don't want to know....

[Shannon]

People all around the world are being informed, starting their journey of unconditional love, finding their highest selves and truths. I feel this is true because the control system is slowly being crushed, and its rapidly increasing because so many people are becoming informed! I feel though being awake is a different story though. I honestly don't know who I was in this previous life time, I only really know myself here. But i did incarnate here for an indefinite reason and many other people in other soul groups did as well. I'm only 17, I have been so slack these last months, and i feel like its all caught up to me.. But still I've come so far. To a new beginning everyone!

I completely agree with your post. :handshake: Pleased to meet you!

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I can only speak from my experience regarding the question at hand but I DO see people waking up to the deceptions, distractions, and destructions going on in the world. I too am in my early 20’s. For me, “waking up” is a lifelong journey but it would not have been the same had I not met individuals along the way who were willing to share their wisdom with me. I sat, recently, at a friend’s house with three other people at a table and we all shared what we had been experiencing or hypothesized, or knew factually. This helps A LOT because together we were all able to make connections based off where we were all at. I’ve learned that EVERYONE has something they can teach us ☺ These specific individuals had over 10 years each of researching all this stuff and I seemed to be a lot like the newborn child opening his eyes lol. But it’s important to note that each of these individuals didn’t just spit out “what they knew to me” like “hey kid this is the way it is… now accept it and move on.” Not at all. We would converse and they would show me where they learned the information... And then would leave me at peace to find my own way afterward.

Selkie, you said to give others time to find out for themselves. I strongly disagree. We need to come together.

There is an enormous amount of bull**** out there and it becomes ever more increasingly difficult to figure out what’s true and what isn’t. Well that’s where the older generation can help my generation out. There are a multitude of individuals here on Avalon who freely speak of the knowledge they have obtained. This is fantastic, but it’s also a lot easier sharing our truth through a computer screen. Anonymity can be a double-edged sword. But I do wonder how many share these things with individuals in their daily lives. (Not saying some don’t I just believe it would be powerful for all to do so). Yes, this forum is incredible and I have grown a lot through attempting to see the world through all of your different perspectives.

Which is why I am pleading with you all in lue of this! Teach those around you what you may know in a setting beyond the screen. Plant seeds wherever you go! Some may fall upon the thorns or be picked up by the birds of the air… but some may hit the ground and begin to sprout roots and flourish.

We are all teachers... But a good teacher is merely a catalyst for change. Never a forceful giver of truth but rather a guide… a pointer to truth that each student must find for himself.

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I was told a great story about a man who held a glass vial around his neck. He pulled it out to show someone and took off the top of the vial. “Inside”, he said… “Is a mustard seed… one of the smallest yet mightiest seeds in the world!” And then he grabbed the seed, put it back in his vial, and hung it once gain around his neck.

What’s the use of this knowledge if you don’t use it to help others who were once like you when you woke up to the deceptions, distractions, and destructions ever present in our world? Remember how you felt when you realized most of what you thought was real was actually deception?
This is a forum filled with an immense amount of wisdom. Please continue to share it with my generation! Don’t lose hope because I promise there are many young’ins like myself who have been blessed by those older with much more experience. You just may be the individual who helped a seed flourish and grow who happened to cross my path and did the same for me. So if you have made a living in sowing seeds. Thank you!!! It is because of people like you that my generation is beginning to wake up and hopefully if enough of us do awaken we can leave this world in a better place by the time we are no longer the young’ins ;)

I don't like "helping" and I don't like "helpers", and I am not going to go around trying to "wake people up", or try to make them "see" that there is something wrong with them, or how they live, or what they think. Should I go around proselytizing in order that we may "come together" (whatever that means) like some New Age Jehovah's Witnesses? Ugh! New Age Fundamentalism :thumbsdown: I'd rather convert to the Jehovah's Witnesses :silent:

Like it or not, people have a right to what they believe, and a right to how they live, and they have the right to live in peace without being prevailed upon to change to anyone's idea of what is right, no matter how convinced the other is of the rightness of THEIR own beliefs or way of life.


This!!! So much this!! I don't like even using the word help, I try to use assist instead but regardless. No one wants helps if they aren't asking for it.

Seriously guys, think about it, are we really that ignorant to think that by telling everyone we know there are false flags everywhere, alien false flags, Zionist agendas, a galactic federation out there and illuminati d-bags out to kill us will turn the American people around? No we have to let it happen organically, people are starting to see how bad a job the people in charge are doing, what our kids are being exposed to and how many lies are being told. Id like to be there for them when they do get the big picture! Work it out and make some game plans for what may come. I'm not going to and never will shove my ideas or thoughts down someone's throat.

If this news in the op is true I can't see one good reason to be critical ...these numbers In The op tell me something's been getting done right.

[Bubu]

Good post :-)

However, the graph has cut off the vertical axis so it makes it look
as if there's been more growth than there has in reality.
Try extending the y-axis down to 0 and up to 100% and you'll see the
true picture appears much more horizontal.

According to the graph, Americans have woken up 5% in nearly 10 years.
They clearly need more coffee ...or a good shaking.

On the other hand, Americans work too hard, they simply haven't got the time to
think about trivialities like totalitarianism, global proxy wars, nukes in china
or funding foreign terrorism.

Perhaps all that will change soon with the soaring unemployment rates.

be happy :-)

lucidity

Even if its less than 5% as long as there is progress we the awake should continue to do what we are doing (shaking the sleepers). The more people waking up the faster the waking up goes. We hope to reach the tipping point before the PTB reach their goal.

[Selkie]

People all around the world are being informed, starting their journey of unconditional love, finding their highest selves and truths. I feel this is true because the control system is slowly being crushed, and its rapidly increasing because so many people are becoming informed! I feel though being awake is a different story though. I honestly don't know who I was in this previous life time, I only really know myself here. But i did incarnate here for an indefinite reason and many other people in other soul groups did as well. I'm only 17, I have been so slack these last months, and i feel like its all caught up to me.. But still I've come so far. To a new beginning everyone!

I completely agree with your post. :handshake: Pleased to meet you!

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I can only speak from my experience regarding the question at hand but I DO see people waking up to the deceptions, distractions, and destructions going on in the world. I too am in my early 20’s. For me, “waking up” is a lifelong journey but it would not have been the same had I not met individuals along the way who were willing to share their wisdom with me. I sat, recently, at a friend’s house with three other people at a table and we all shared what we had been experiencing or hypothesized, or knew factually. This helps A LOT because together we were all able to make connections based off where we were all at. I’ve learned that EVERYONE has something they can teach us ☺ These specific individuals had over 10 years each of researching all this stuff and I seemed to be a lot like the newborn child opening his eyes lol. But it’s important to note that each of these individuals didn’t just spit out “what they knew to me” like “hey kid this is the way it is… now accept it and move on.” Not at all. We would converse and they would show me where they learned the information... And then would leave me at peace to find my own way afterward.

Selkie, you said to give others time to find out for themselves. I strongly disagree. We need to come together.

There is an enormous amount of bull**** out there and it becomes ever more increasingly difficult to figure out what’s true and what isn’t. Well that’s where the older generation can help my generation out. There are a multitude of individuals here on Avalon who freely speak of the knowledge they have obtained. This is fantastic, but it’s also a lot easier sharing our truth through a computer screen. Anonymity can be a double-edged sword. But I do wonder how many share these things with individuals in their daily lives. (Not saying some don’t I just believe it would be powerful for all to do so). Yes, this forum is incredible and I have grown a lot through attempting to see the world through all of your different perspectives.

Which is why I am pleading with you all in lue of this! Teach those around you what you may know in a setting beyond the screen. Plant seeds wherever you go! Some may fall upon the thorns or be picked up by the birds of the air… but some may hit the ground and begin to sprout roots and flourish.

We are all teachers... But a good teacher is merely a catalyst for change. Never a forceful giver of truth but rather a guide… a pointer to truth that each student must find for himself.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I was told a great story about a man who held a glass vial around his neck. He pulled it out to show someone and took off the top of the vial. “Inside”, he said… “Is a mustard seed… one of the smallest yet mightiest seeds in the world!” And then he grabbed the seed, put it back in his vial, and hung it once gain around his neck.

What’s the use of this knowledge if you don’t use it to help others who were once like you when you woke up to the deceptions, distractions, and destructions ever present in our world? Remember how you felt when you realized most of what you thought was real was actually deception?
This is a forum filled with an immense amount of wisdom. Please continue to share it with my generation! Don’t lose hope because I promise there are many young’ins like myself who have been blessed by those older with much more experience. You just may be the individual who helped a seed flourish and grow who happened to cross my path and did the same for me. So if you have made a living in sowing seeds. Thank you!!! It is because of people like you that my generation is beginning to wake up and hopefully if enough of us do awaken we can leave this world in a better place by the time we are no longer the young’ins ;)

I don't like "helping" and I don't like "helpers", and I am not going to go around trying to "wake people up", or try to make them "see" that there is something wrong with them, or how they live, or what they think. Should I go around proselytizing in order that we may "come together" (whatever that means) like some New Age Jehovah's Witnesses? Ugh! New Age Fundamentalism :thumbsdown: I'd rather convert to the Jehovah's Witnesses :silent:

Like it or not, people have a right to what they believe, and a right to how they live, and they have the right to live in peace without being prevailed upon to change to anyone's idea of what is right, no matter how convinced the other is of the rightness of THEIR own beliefs or way of life.


This!!! So much this!! I don't like even using the word help, I try to use assist instead but regardless. No one wants helps if they aren't asking for it.

Seriously guys, think about it, are we really that ignorant to think that by telling everyone we know there are false flags everywhere, alien false flags, Zionist agendas, a galactic federation out there and illuminati d-bags out to kill us will turn the American people around? No we have to let it happen organically, people are starting to see how bad a job the people in charge are doing, what our kids are being exposed to and how many lies are being told. Id like to be there for them when they do get the big picture! Work it out and make some game plans for what may come. I'm not going to and never will shove my ideas or thoughts down someone's throat.

If this news in the op is true I can't see one good reason to be critical ...these numbers In The op tell me something's been getting done right.

Yes. When you go around trying to ram information that people do not want down their throats, it only hardens them against it, and I don't blame them. To "teach" them and "help" them when they don't want it and have not asked for it is arrogant beyond belief.

[Bubu]

"I'm not going to and never will shove my ideas or thoughts down someone's throat."

Im not shoving my ideas down anyones throat. Simply telling the truth in a normal conversation helps a lot in making other people realize what really is happening. My awakening started when a friend simply shared a link. Although from my early childhood I can feel that something isnt right. This friend pointed me to what is not right. More and more people are now feeling that something is not right especially the younger ones. One slight nudge and its done no need to shove. When someone is not yet ready you cant wake em up no matter what you do.

[danegeroussacredgeometry]

I don't like "helping" and I don't like "helpers", and I am not going to go around trying to "wake people up", or try to make them "see" that there is something wrong with them, or how they live, or what they think. Should I go around proselytizing in order that we may "come together" (whatever that means) like some New Age Jehovah's Witnesses? Ugh! New Age Fundamentalism :thumbsdown: I'd rather convert to the Jehovah's Witnesses :silent:

Like it or not, people have a right to what they believe, and a right to how they live, and they have the right to live in peace without being prevailed upon to change to anyone's idea of what is right, no matter how convinced the other is of the rightness of THEIR own beliefs or way of life.

Selkie, I am confused as to why you twisted my words into stating my response as being similar to a New Age Fundamentalist or Jehovah's Witness? I said, "We are all teachers... But a good teacher is merely a catalyst for change. Never a FORCEFUL giver of truth but rather a guide… a pointer to truth that each student must find for himself." Is this where you felt like I was proselytizing?
When did I give you the impression that any of this should be forced?


My intent (and apparently I was not clear enough) was that we need to be honest with others about what we know so we can all learn from each other. That was the bottom line. So I used the word help... I agree that assist is a more proper word I should have used. Presentation is everything. Thank you for the correction Saint Theresa :) But isn't that the point of Avalon? Otherwise, what is the point of sharing the information we know? What is the point of you being here if you do not want to "assist" others or have others "assist" you in your personal pursuit of truth?

[Selkie]

I don't like "helping" and I don't like "helpers", and I am not going to go around trying to "wake people up", or try to make them "see" that there is something wrong with them, or how they live, or what they think. Should I go around proselytizing in order that we may "come together" (whatever that means) like some New Age Jehovah's Witnesses? Ugh! New Age Fundamentalism :thumbsdown: I'd rather convert to the Jehovah's Witnesses :silent:

Like it or not, people have a right to what they believe, and a right to how they live, and they have the right to live in peace without being prevailed upon to change to anyone's idea of what is right, no matter how convinced the other is of the rightness of THEIR own beliefs or way of life.

Selkie, I am confused as to why you twisted my words into stating my response as being similar to a New Age Fundamentalist or Jehovah's Witness? I said, "We are all teachers... But a good teacher is merely a catalyst for change. Never a FORCEFUL giver of truth but rather a guide… a pointer to truth that each student must find for himself." Is this where you felt like I was proselytizing?
When did I give you the impression that any of this should be forced?


My intent (and apparently I was not clear enough) was that we need to be honest with others about what we know so we can all learn from each other. That was the bottom line. So I used the word help... I agree that assist is a more proper word I should have used. Presentation is everything. Thank you for the correction Saint Theresa :) But isn't that the point of Avalon? Otherwise, what is the point of sharing the information we know? What is the point of you being here if you do not want to "assist" others or have others "assist" you in your personal pursuit of truth?

Quote Dangeroussacredgeometry: "What’s the use of this knowledge if you don’t use it to help others who were once like you when you woke up to the deceptions, distractions, and destructions ever present in our world?[/I]"

I don't think I twisted your words.

[danegeroussacredgeometry]

Yeah, but where did I say I was forcing it down other's throats? The comment you took from me sounds great for your argument when taken out of context. I didn't mean for it to be directed at those whom weren't looking for it or asking for it nor did I EVER say that. I never said to teach or help when it wasn't asked for. I'm sorry I apparently wasn't clear but you have clearly twisted my original intent.

I just start to wonder based off what you have said... What then is the point of having these conversations? I stated my opinion. That’s all it is :o Your words were “Like it or not, people have a right to what they believe, and a right to how they live, and they have the right to live in peace without being prevailed upon to change to anyone's idea of what is right, no matter how convinced the other is of the rightness of THEIR own beliefs or way of life.” Well that being said why does it seem that you are bashing me for what is simply an OPINION. Are you attempting to correct me? To “teach” me the errors of my ways? If you truly believed we shouldn’t be assisting others then why share our opinion at all?


Anyone interested in the power of language really ought to read The Structure of Magic by Bandler and Grinder,

http://www.amazon.com/Structure-Magic-Vol-Language-Therapy/dp/0831400447/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442868994&sr=1-1&keywords=the+structure+of+magic

http://www.amazon.com/Structure-Magic-II-Communication-Change/dp/0831400498/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442868994&sr=1-2&keywords=the+structure+of+magic

I haven't read volume II, just to let you know.

Beware of naguals "providing syntax".



Would you call this helping, assisting, etc? What is the point in sharing when it is not to help or assist another? What word in the conscious language would you suggest? And is a suggestion trying to help or assist because I asked for it?

I know this may seem like I'm splitting hairs, but really?

[Ted]

Thank you all for such a lively discussion. :behindsofa:

I agree that you can only help those who ask for it, or are receptive to new ideas. If I am in a conversation and someone expresses an opinion, which is obviously regurgitated propaganda, I try not to outright disagree with them (which would be perceived as a direct challenge), but rather plant a small seed of doubt. That way they can save face and do some further research later if they so desire. If they're not open to the idea, no matter what facts I present, or insistence on my part, will ever change their mind.
We are each equally responsible for the world we collectively live in. Because someone is lazy and chooses not to think doesn't give anyone else the right to try and force them to "wake up". Waking up is an individual right.
That said, people are still waking up to the sham that passes for a representative government a lot faster than I thought. Hopefully, at some point in the near future, that graph will start to rise exponentially.

[Shannon]

Yeah, but where did I say I was forcing it down other's throats? The comment you took from me sounds great for your argument when taken out of context. I didn't mean for it to be directed at those whom weren't looking for it or asking for it nor did I EVER say that. I never said to teach or help when it wasn't asked for. I'm sorry I apparently wasn't clear but you have clearly twisted my original intent.

I just start to wonder based off what you have said... What then is the point of having these conversations? I stated my opinion. That’s all it is :o Your words were “Like it or not, people have a right to what they believe, and a right to how they live, and they have the right to live in peace without being prevailed upon to change to anyone's idea of what is right, no matter how convinced the other is of the rightness of THEIR own beliefs or way of life.” Well that being said why does it seem that you are bashing me for what is simply an OPINION. Are you attempting to correct me? To “teach” me the errors of my ways? If you truly believed we shouldn’t be assisting others then why share our opinion at all?


Anyone interested in the power of language really ought to read The Structure of Magic by Bandler and Grinder,

http://www.amazon.com/Structure-Magic-Vol-Language-Therapy/dp/0831400447/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442868994&sr=1-1&keywords=the+structure+of+magic

http://www.amazon.com/Structure-Magic-II-Communication-Change/dp/0831400498/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442868994&sr=1-2&keywords=the+structure+of+magic

I haven't read volume II, just to let you know.

Beware of naguals "providing syntax".



Would you call this helping, assisting, etc? What is the point in sharing when it is not to help or assist another? What word in the conscious language would you suggest? And is a suggestion trying to help or assist because I asked for it?

I know this may seem like I'm splitting hairs, but really?

Well this the choir so to speak. When I say I'm not going to help I'm not talking about sharing my knowledge here at pa or with someone who is open to it. We can all mention and suggest links that's fine. But I think us finding a smart way to present our knowledge to the public would be better than say, knocking on doors and giving each dwelling owner a speech about what we know. :)

[3(C)+me]

We should have a section just for waking up topic cuz it comes around every 6 months or so in different incarnations because this topic apparently is on people's minds. What to do with the sleepers and how to help them.
Generally it is a good thing to wake up but it is not all good, you will leave one set of problems for another set of let's say challenges. These challenges are not easy because it is murky out there with a lot of the three letter agencies putting out disinfo to get everybody exhausted and confused. The terrain is often bumpy.
People need to want to know the truth, like it is in the DNA and it drives them. Because once you have to know what the hell is really going you are going to have some dark night of the soul times and will not all be love and light. Some people I don't think actually want to wake up, they are here to sleep through the whole thing and stay with their masters, but I think this group is small cuz why would people incarnate at this time just to sleep through it when you can fly to the heavens without a chip under your skin.

But let's face it we live in dangerous times and also wonderful times, everyday I am thankful to be here during the big show but I am in a nice comfy spot and some others are not, they are stuck, blocked, they are not sure how to get out the hole they are in. Addictions are off the charts. They refuse to look at themselves and heal their traumas and pain, and you can't get them to do that. I have many friends in this spot and at some point you have to ask yourself is it hurting me to support and enable them cuz they are not going to let go of their addictions, they believe it is the only thing that they can hang onto to keep them sane. I think the best thing to do is be clear about yourself and what you are available for and if you are at peace that will effect others. It does not have to be about telling them things or sending them a link, but sometimes it will actually go that way.

I say nothing unless they ask me or bring up a subject then I will tell them what I think, I will be honest but if that doesn't happen I know my presence does a lot and remember we are all psychic and are in communication with each other and no words have to be expressed. Not one.
I would not be a bit surprised if we have an Avalon lounge in the dream state that we go to from time to time and compare notes.

[Selkie]

Yeah, but where did I say I was forcing it down other's throats?

Um...


"Selkie, you said to give others time to find out for themselves. I strongly disagree."

(my emphasis)




Anyone interested in the power of language really ought to read The Structure of Magic by Bandler and Grinder,

http://www.amazon.com/Structure-Magic-Vol-Language-Therapy/dp/0831400447/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442868994&sr=1-1&keywords=the+structure+of+magic

http://www.amazon.com/Structure-Magic-II-Communication-Change/dp/0831400498/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442868994&sr=1-2&keywords=the+structure+of+magic

I haven't read volume II, just to let you know.

Beware of naguals "providing syntax".



Would you call this helping, assisting, etc? What is the point in sharing when it is not to help or assist another? What word in the conscious language would you suggest? And is a suggestion trying to help or assist because I asked for it?

I know this may seem like I'm splitting hairs, but really?

You are not splitting hairs so much as not remembering that this is PA, where opinions and knowlege such as I have expressed and shared are welcome. That is quite a different thing than feeling that this knowledge is useless unless one is a "teacher" "helping" others,


What’s the use of this knowledge if you don’t use it to help others who were once like you when you woke up to the deceptions, distractions, and destructions ever present in our world?

Maybe many others are happy with their world. Who is anyone to say that they should not be, or look down upon them for it if they are?

[ghostrider]

As we have entered the age of knowledge, time will continue to speed up, the revolutionary rays of the central sun work their magic on us, as we are between spiral arms moving towards the constellation Hercules... We get unobstructed rays of change, they say will reach an apex in 2025, until then , the changing of the human psyche will continue...in the words of BTO , you ain't seen nothing yet...

[skyflower]

I finished watching season 2 of the "Blacklist" on netflix, and I was surprised to see the workings of the "cabal" explained so plainly in a mainstream drama.
Yes, people are waking up and it is good to see the mass media helping along, regardless of their original intentions.

xMHJ8d3o-aI

[foreverfan]

49% proves one thing.... 51% of the population is either too young to know better or too old to remember.

[chimpsky]

The first question I get from people waking up to the NWO-agenda is "What can I do?".

Honestly I don't know what to answer other than

* "try to be aware of what's going on and keep track of events".
* "educate yourself on the subject"
...and so forth

But what immediate actions can be taken. What are your suggestions to people? Of course I'm not suggesting violence.

[Clear Light]

The first question I get from people waking up to the NWO-agenda is "What can I do?".

Honestly I don't know what to answer other than

* "try to be aware of what's going on and keep track of events".
* "educate yourself on the subject"
...and so forth

But what immediate actions can be taken. What are your suggestions to people? Of course I'm not suggesting violence.

Ah, suggest that it's a process which will likely involve :

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51tCbyGUqnL.jpg

However I do whole-heartedly agree with "educate yourself on the subject" :sun:

------------

PS The above sign is a play on words with the "Five Stages of Grief" as laid out in the Kübler-Ross model (http://grief.com/the-five-stages-of-grief/)

[Songmuze]

The International Tribunal for Natural Justice has just been launched. Sovereign individuals may now hold governments and corporations accountable for actions that do not uphold natural justice as the foundational tenet of human expression. This is pro-action at its best. No need to wait for those in "power" to implode.

To sign the Treaty of the International Tribunal for Natural Justice, to volunteer, and to learn more... http://www.itnj.org/itnj/itnj-treaty/

[bettye198]

Our office was getting 90% of our patient load signing the referendum in CA to remove it from the ballot in Nov. The reason was that it was a violation of our privacy, our parental rights and personal beliefs. It did not pass evidently with 100,000 signatures short. Who makes these decisions to say a certain # of signatures is needed? The worse part is that if a parent decides to home school then they will come up with a ruling about that. We are rats in a corner.

[Selene]

The first question I get from people waking up to the NWO-agenda is "What can I do?".

Honestly I don't know what to answer other than

* "try to be aware of what's going on and keep track of events".
* "educate yourself on the subject"
...and so forth

But what immediate actions can be taken. What are your suggestions to people? Of course I'm not suggesting violence.

Keep following your instincts.

Your inner compass brought you this far; learn to respect it, nurture it [via meditation or whatever discipline you choose] and keep following your own path.

You will be okay.

The more you can learn to follow your own feet, the more you can learn to discern the world around you.

Trust yourself, first and foremost.

And never be willing to trade your own personal experience for someone else’s opinion.

My take, anyway.

Cheers,

Selene

[chimpsky]

Thanks :thumbsup: :bowing:

[observer]

The point of this thread is lost in the numbers. I would suggest there are not enough souls awake to make a critical difference, within the context of the time-left-on-the-clock. The Common Reality of Man is predicated on the number of Souls affecting the Mass Consciousness of Humanity. The numbers fall hopelessly short of having a significant affect, any time in the near future.

As an individual aspect of an Eternal Soul, I must be pragmatic, and know when to cash-in the chips.

The alarm has been ringing for many years, yet many sleep in an hypnotic dream of, "a bright new dawn just over the horizon". This mantra has been the promise since the Dawn of Man. That "Bright-New-Dawn" has never arrived, and considering the numbers, there is little hope it ever will.

I cross-post a comment from the, "Re: Bases 46: Transhumanism, DNA Technology, Chemtrails, Alien AI and Black Go (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83617-Bases-46-Transhumanism-DNA-Technology-Chemtrails-Alien-AI-and-Black-Goo&p=1013351&viewfull=1#post1013351)" Thread that has great relevance, here in this Thread:




Please take the time to read Meggings' comment #152. To view the comment, click-on the forwarding icon.

[....snip]

For so long, my comments have been directed toward those among us who would wish not to continue in this particular three-dimensional holographic computer game. A total restart would cause all these obscene time-lines to begin anew; just as has occurred so many times in remote antiquity.

Are you looking forward to another restart? ....another eternity of darker, more obscene Free Will Choices by those Lost Souls you are living among? Are you prepared to spend another eternity skipping from lifetime-to-lifetime, never knowing if you will get it right the next-time-around? My eternal aspect has no desire to win this game, and possess the coveted 'sword of ultimate power' - it's all just a game; that's all it's ever been.

We are in the final seconds of a countdown to that restart (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77253-Should-Humanity-Be-Con-CERN-ed&p=904085&viewfull=1#post904085). If they don't get it right this time, how long will it take for this inevasible restart event to occur?

This is a game, where it must be obvious to anyone studying the historic record of our species, that the eternal aspect of our individual souls are trapped within a prison matrix designed to feed an hyperdimensional species, who appear to control the game-board'.

As painful as it may be, it really is time to wake-up and abandon the Game of Free Will.