Bill Ryan
27th November 2010, 15:18
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One of the GLP moderators has called Clif High out publicly. She's pretty angry. It makes for interesting reading.
http://godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1264206/pg1
my email to him this morning as follows:
hey clif
i can understand the sock puppeting - nearly everyone's seen it done & nearly everyones done it themselves at one time or another so do the math......however, and heres a huge however.....
i do have one issue with this whole scenario.
you built a huge fan base at GLP. we extended you a voice realm in both the forum & voice chat, which ultimately gained you more listeners & subscribers.
to use GLP as your (quote) test ground, deceived not only your fans, but ...and im gonna call it here clif, defrauded your subscribers while you used GLP for personal gain.
lemme denny crane here for a moment; you set up your own analysis USING the same people who purchase your reports.
that's manipulative usury by definition.
we at GLP have a huge member collaboration of dedicated bloggers who are astute, and on game. we all take our 'work' seriously for the most part. to insult the intelligence of each & every member, regardless of their contributions, readers included; is obtuse in all reasoning. you made money off entrapment plain & simple. you conducted yourself like a cop parked outside a friggin tavern.
you labeled us GULPers because we gulp the doom. doom, is just an adjective to describe the insidious bull**** we see everyday. theres nothing wrong with rejecting weasel words in lieu of defacto. that's what GLP is about tardbot....truth. facts.
i intermittently defended you clif, without fully investigating the allegations. now that i have had the time to do so in the aftermath, the pieces to the puzzle have become clearer.
the webbots a year plus ago we're broadcast on cable - history/discovery channel. we are aware that this is a controlled media outlet. hence, TPTB.
when you came to GLP, you stated to me, that you did not want ANYONE banned, in fact you vehemently requested a troll host your show. you made mention of emotions being applicable - a red flag i admittedly didn't catch until now.
i even came to you out of respect recently to get authorization to discuss your last alta in VC. respect clif....have we lost the meaning of it along the way or has it been changed, altered, manipulated and or excused? the terminology used, to what you perceive it to be? to your benefit? explain this to me as if i was a 4 yr old, because this is such a bunch of high pressure bull****, and i take great offense on behalf of each and every GLP member, our staff, our site owner; who was very generous in permitting your **** not only on our site but to be plugged for profit and our site as a whole.
there are other anomalies that were presented to me by other radio show hosts in the last few days that involve you for which i will not divulge because i have RESPECT for their privacy....but i can say this much.....this isnt gonna look good on your resume.
i trust that hal turner check was worth the sell out.
i think i can honestly speak on behalf of the general consensus at GLP when i say....fool GLP once shame on you. fool us twice....and so it begins
Phennommennonn
One of the GLP moderators has called Clif High out publicly. She's pretty angry. It makes for interesting reading.
http://godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1264206/pg1
my email to him this morning as follows:
hey clif
i can understand the sock puppeting - nearly everyone's seen it done & nearly everyones done it themselves at one time or another so do the math......however, and heres a huge however.....
i do have one issue with this whole scenario.
you built a huge fan base at GLP. we extended you a voice realm in both the forum & voice chat, which ultimately gained you more listeners & subscribers.
to use GLP as your (quote) test ground, deceived not only your fans, but ...and im gonna call it here clif, defrauded your subscribers while you used GLP for personal gain.
lemme denny crane here for a moment; you set up your own analysis USING the same people who purchase your reports.
that's manipulative usury by definition.
we at GLP have a huge member collaboration of dedicated bloggers who are astute, and on game. we all take our 'work' seriously for the most part. to insult the intelligence of each & every member, regardless of their contributions, readers included; is obtuse in all reasoning. you made money off entrapment plain & simple. you conducted yourself like a cop parked outside a friggin tavern.
you labeled us GULPers because we gulp the doom. doom, is just an adjective to describe the insidious bull**** we see everyday. theres nothing wrong with rejecting weasel words in lieu of defacto. that's what GLP is about tardbot....truth. facts.
i intermittently defended you clif, without fully investigating the allegations. now that i have had the time to do so in the aftermath, the pieces to the puzzle have become clearer.
the webbots a year plus ago we're broadcast on cable - history/discovery channel. we are aware that this is a controlled media outlet. hence, TPTB.
when you came to GLP, you stated to me, that you did not want ANYONE banned, in fact you vehemently requested a troll host your show. you made mention of emotions being applicable - a red flag i admittedly didn't catch until now.
i even came to you out of respect recently to get authorization to discuss your last alta in VC. respect clif....have we lost the meaning of it along the way or has it been changed, altered, manipulated and or excused? the terminology used, to what you perceive it to be? to your benefit? explain this to me as if i was a 4 yr old, because this is such a bunch of high pressure bull****, and i take great offense on behalf of each and every GLP member, our staff, our site owner; who was very generous in permitting your **** not only on our site but to be plugged for profit and our site as a whole.
there are other anomalies that were presented to me by other radio show hosts in the last few days that involve you for which i will not divulge because i have RESPECT for their privacy....but i can say this much.....this isnt gonna look good on your resume.
i trust that hal turner check was worth the sell out.
i think i can honestly speak on behalf of the general consensus at GLP when i say....fool GLP once shame on you. fool us twice....and so it begins
Phennommennonn