Keshe Warns of 'MEGA QUAKE' That Will Split Two Continents In Half

[Camilo]

https://youtu.be/pc7622sFPMU (7 min. video)

Published on 09/21/2015

Two weeks ago (Sept 3) while watching Knowledge Seekers Workshop #77, M.T. Keshe warned of multiple 10+ earthquakes for the West Coast of the USA... That video was deleted shortly after that same day. He clarifies further about what he thinks is shortly about to happen..

[Johnny]

As I understood it, the deleting of Knowledge Seekers Workshop #77 had something to do with some copyright's

Johnny :)

[Bill Ryan]

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A transcript is here: http://rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=28196

One of the things he said was
We expect earthquakes between 10 to 16 and in more occasions 20 to 24 Richter scale when the snapping happens.Well, he may not be a very good scientist, then!

A technical note here, about the way the Richter scale works. (And this may reassure some people about the rationality of these claims. :) )

The Richter scale is logarithmic, which means that a mag 9.0 is ten times as powerful as a mag 8.0, and a mag 8.0 is ten times as powerful as a mag 7.0. (Etc, etc, up and down the scale.)

That means that a mag 24 would be 10,000,000,000,000,000 (that's 10 quadrillion) times as powerful as a mag 8. In my very strong opinion, that would be totally 100% impossible.

[Hervé]

Bill laid out very well one of the reasons why such a magnitude belongs to the realms of fantasy.

Another one is rock mechanics:

NO earthquake, NONE can reach such a magnitude due to earth-crust's rocks maximum accumulated energy before break point!

The maximum magnitude an earthquake can reach through rock rupture is something around 10 or 11 max! That's that!

If seismometers register something above an equivalent of a magnitude 11 wave, then, that means a large meteorite collided with Earth... and that's that too!

[Bill Ryan]

Bill laid out very well one of the reasons why such a magnitude belongs to the realms of fantasy.

Another one is rock mechanics:

NO earthquake, NONE can reach such a magnitude due to earth-crust's rocks maximum accumulated energy before break point!

The maximum magnitude an earthquake can reach through rock rupture is something around 10 or 11 max! That's that!

If seismometers register something above an equivalent of a magnitude 11 wave, then, that means a large meteorite collided with Earth... and that's that too!

Right. Let me also try to explain this. (You have a kind of geophysical double act here! :bigsmile: ).

Tectonic plates aren't made of steel. They're made of rock, which is only so strong. Hervé is explaining that in order for there to be an earthquake bigger than about 11 (which has never happened in recorded history), the build up of tension before 'snapping' would have to be so huge that the structure of the rock itself would give way first. That puts a natural 'cap' on the size of any earthquake caused by the friction of tectonic plate movement. (Thankfully for us all!)

[WhiteLove]

I think Keshe's mega quake is a fantasy. (so that he can earn more money)

[Johnny]

I think Keshe's mega quake is a fantasy. (so that he can earn more money)

And what do Lovespot think ???

Johnny :)

[Aviator]

Keshe's predictions are probably just as good as his inventions. Complete nonsense.

[Cidersomerset]

All I can say about this and its hard to explain unless you listen to the shows as I
do. Bob Dobbs and Ion have been saying that a 'Godzilla ' event is going to hit the
US west coast. Now Ion has been saying this for a few months. I was listening
last night to last week ends show and Bob and his wife were in a 'bunker'
underground somewhere. The 28th of Sept seems to have some significance. I
don't know if there is anything in this but a lot weird synchronicities seem to be
going on and when he was in the bunker which would of been broadcast
last satpm/sun am I thought it odd , he would not say why they were there.

Bob Dobbs and his wife renown alternate medical expert Dr Carolyn Dean , live on Maui Hawaii

http://drcarolyndean.com/

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There is a blood moon due on the 28th sept , by coincidence...

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[Johnny]

Keshe's predictions are probably just as good as his inventions. Complete nonsense.

Quantum teleportation over 100  km of fiber using highly efficient superconducting nanowire single-photon detectors

Will you believe that, probably not.

source: https://www.osapublishing.org/optica/fulltext.cfm?uri=optica-2-10-832&id=326929

Johnny :)

[KiwiElf]

He may be partly right - 3 x big quakes in the last 5 minutes - Indonesia 6.6, Solomons 6.0, & Easter Island 5.2, all in a straight line...

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map

EDIT - make that 4 - a 5.6 in Chile just now

[Zionbrion]

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A transcript is here: http://rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=28196

One of the things he said was
We expect earthquakes between 10 to 16 and in more occasions 20 to 24 Richter scale when the snapping happens.Well, he may not be a very good scientist, then!

A technical note here, about the way the Richter scale works. (And this may reassure some people about the rationality of these claims. :) )

The Richter scale is logarithmic, which means that a mag 9.0 is ten times as powerful as a mag 8.0, and a mag 8.0 is ten times as powerful as a mag 7.0. (Etc, etc, up and down the scale.)

That means that a mag 24 would be 10,000,000,000,000,000 (that's 10 quadrillion) times as powerful as a mag 8. In my very strong opinion, that would be totally 100% impossible.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I recently came to the understanding that the magnitude of an earthquake is determined by the ammount of time the quake actually rumbles.

I read this in an article by seismologists that were talking about the Japan quake.

Did I understand them correctly?

[Jhonie]

Doomsday BS. I wish Avalon had a trash can for that......

[Nick Matkin]

He may be partly right - 3 x big quakes in the last 5 minutes - Indonesia 6.6, Solomons 6.0, & Easter Island 5.2, all in a straight line...

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map

EDIT - make that 4 - a 5.6 in Chile just now


We expect earthquakes between 10 to 16 and in more occasions 20 to 24 Richter scale when the snapping happens.

Well, 6.6, 6.0, 5.2 and 5.6 = 23.4... Nearly there then! :facepalm: And if you count the recent earthquake in Oakham (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/23/earthquake-of-28-magnitude-hits-rutland) (UK) of 2.8, we've exceeded it!

(Why someone who claims scientific knowledge comes out with this absolute bollox is beyond reason! You really don't need to be a geologist to see this is all total c**p surely?)

[Hervé]

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Please correct me if I am wrong, but I recently came to the understanding that the magnitude of an earthquake is determined by the ammount of time the quake actually rumbles.

I read this in an article by seismologists that were talking about the Japan quake.

Did I understand them correctly?

Mostly :)

The length of time a quake rumbles is related to the amount of accumulated energy suddenly released via rupture of rocks (like if one keeps bending [energy accumulation] a piece of glass, it comes to a point when that glass will break [= rupture= release of accumulated energy]). What is recorded on seismometers is translated into the energy released. The greater the amount of energy released, the longer the rupture wave will resonate/last.

[jaybee]

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Even if there was ever a really REALLY big one building it looks like it could be averted....?.....relieved with smaller ones - maybe

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6759689/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/can-earthquakes-be-tamed/#.VgQ0NdJViko


Ready to rumble?It turns out that human engineering has already accidentally triggered earthquakes, providing some initial concepts of how a deliberate strategy of tension relief might be implemented. But geologists warn that replacing one big earthquake with a swarm of smaller ones might expose people to much higher total risks -- and that's assuming that such a proposal could surmount the legal and environmental hurdles likely to be put in its way.

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[Hervé]

Keshe's story is only resonating to that stupid, doomsday movie: San Andreas (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2126355/)

[Fairy Friend]

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Even if there was ever a really REALLY big one building it looks like it could be averted....?.....relieved with smaller ones - maybe

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6759689/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/can-earthquakes-be-tamed/#.VgQ0NdJViko


Ready to rumble?It turns out that human engineering has already accidentally triggered earthquakes, providing some initial concepts of how a deliberate strategy of tension relief might be implemented. But geologists warn that replacing one big earthquake with a swarm of smaller ones might expose people to much higher total risks -- and that's assuming that such a proposal could surmount the legal and environmental hurdles likely to be put in its way.

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I have watched earthquakes a long time and ponder that thought. My feeling is since everything touches everything else, one plate boundary on other plates. So you release pressure someplace you build pressure in another place because everything interconnects. Chile was a point of building pressure for a long time and that just released but pressure is transferred back again across to the other plates. Indonesia quakes put pressue in tibet and/or Japan I think, as another example. This is not 'new news.'

The tectonic plates are not solid rock which is why it is building and releasing pressue over time. The ground may seem solid but has a fluidic or plasma components to it. It's more like hard rubber breaking. It sends several kinds of waves through it. How big and long the waves are help judge the magnitude. Sometimes they look at surface damage over the area and how widespread and compare it to the depth of the epicentre to gauge it too. But unfortunately, there isn't a specific device that can exactly say how much energy a specific quake was accurately. But ballpark guesses aren't bad, so to speak and give us some idea of its power.

[Hervé]

On the doomsday scale, this one is pretty good:

Oops ... tsunami warning issued for CT (http://m.ctpost.com/news/article/Oops-tsunami-warning-issued-for-CT-6526674.php)


The state Department of Emergency Services (http://m.ctpost.com/search/?action=search&channel=news&inlineLink=1&searchindex=gsa&query=%22Emergency+Services%22) and Public Protection said a tsunami warning for Connecticut was inadvertently broadcast from the National Weather Service (http://m.ctpost.com/search/?action=search&channel=news&inlineLink=1&searchindex=gsa&query=%22National+Weather+Service%22) Thursday morning. The alert included Fairfield County, part of Long Island Sound and New Haven, Middlesex and New London counties.

“It was an internal test for the alert that went live,” said Scott Devico (http://m.ctpost.com/search/?action=search&channel=news&inlineLink=1&searchindex=gsa&query=%22Scott+Devico%22), spokesman for the department. “The message was sent through the emergency alert system. The first thing we did was make contact with the National Weather Service and was told it was an accident.” The department later sent out a tweet letting people known it was a mistake.

He said no emergency services were activated once it was determined the alert was a mistake.

Gary Conte (http://m.ctpost.com/search/?action=search&channel=news&inlineLink=1&searchindex=gsa&query=%22Gary+Conte%22), of the National Weather Service in Upton, N.Y., said it was an inadvertly sent. “It was obviously a mistake, but the good news is the test worked.”

[Nick Matkin]

(Why someone who claims scientific knowledge comes out with this absolute bollox is beyond reason! You really don't need to be a geologist to see this is all total c**p surely?)

I'm slightly surprised that a Keshe supporter hasn't popped up and said something along the lines of: "He never said that. It's been attributed to him to discredit him and his inventions. It's been cooked up by TPTB/Illuminati HQ."

Unless there is a video showing him actually stating this nonsense - which could have been cooked-up too I guess.

[Sunny-side-up]

Just saying but when did we see a continent breakaway before?
because I think that is what Mr Keshe is anticipating, not just a big Quake but an Earthquake moving the upper Northern from the lower Southern continents.

My question here is what size/magnitude would such an event cause? that's a real question!
how do the maths for such an event tally up?
Imaging not just a release of tension (A Quake) but a continent size lump of land moving and not suddenly stopping, so it carries on for some time redesigning the globe?

[jaybee]

I'm slightly surprised that a Keshe supporter hasn't popped up and said something along the lines of: "He never said that. It's been attributed to him to discredit him and his inventions. It's been cooked up by TPTB/Illuminati HQ."

Unless there is a video showing him actually stating this nonsense - which could have been cooked-up too I guess.

Allow me to assist you, Nick...

there's a video in the OPENING POST...

ps..I suppose you have cancelled your trip to Rome now... :p

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[Nick Matkin]

I'm slightly surprised that a Keshe supporter hasn't popped up and said something along the lines of: "He never said that. It's been attributed to him to discredit him and his inventions. It's been cooked up by TPTB/Illuminati HQ."

Unless there is a video showing him actually stating this nonsense - which could have been cooked-up too I guess.

Allow me to assist you, Nick...

there's a video in the OPENING POST...

ps..I suppose you have cancelled your trip to Rome now... :p

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Thanks. I suspected it wasn't far away - Bill Ryan printed the quote in post 5.

Well, Keshe condemned by the words out of his own mouth (@ 2m 24sec in the video). What an absolute idiot. Is he trying to make himself look foolish on purpose or what?

Yup, the Rome trip is off now! Which is a pity as I rather thought I might get my hands on one of Mr Keshe's little boxes to see what's inside...

[jaybee]

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A transcript is here: http://rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=28196

One of the things he said was
We expect earthquakes between 10 to 16 and in more occasions 20 to 24 Richter scale when the snapping happens.Well, he may not be a very good scientist, then!

A technical note here, about the way the Richter scale works. (And this may reassure some people about the rationality of these claims. :) )

The Richter scale is logarithmic, which means that a mag 9.0 is ten times as powerful as a mag 8.0, and a mag 8.0 is ten times as powerful as a mag 7.0. (Etc, etc, up and down the scale.)

That means that a mag 24 would be 10,000,000,000,000,000 (that's 10 quadrillion) times as powerful as a mag 8. In my very strong opinion, that would be totally 100% impossible.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I recently came to the understanding that the magnitude of an earthquake is determined by the ammount of time the quake actually rumbles.

I read this in an article by seismologists that were talking about the Japan quake.

Did I understand them correctly?


@ Nick...well this hasn't been answered or resolved yet....?

I haven't had time to look into it myself..

Shame about Rome haha :wink:

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[Fairy Friend]

North America and South America have always been considered to be separate tectonic plates. They have always been moving in relation to each other. We don't always know exactly where all the fault lines are and there are big faults and little faults. The magnitude quotes are ridiculous.

I do usually give someone leeway if it is their first earthquake prediction. Is this his first one or does he have a track record of forecasting earthquakes?

Those people who predicts tsunamis have a pretty good track record. I guess anybody can make a mistake. Although they are best buddy with earthquake people I do treat them as slightly separate of a group.

[jaybee]

North America and South America have always been considered to be separate tectonic plates. They have always been moving in relation to each other. We don't always know exactly where all the fault lines are and there are big faults and little faults. The magnitude quotes are ridiculous.

I do usually give someone leeway if it is their first earthquake prediction. Is this his first one or does he have a track record of forecasting earthquakes?


I don't know...that's the first one I've heard about and only saw it myself from the OP.

[Aurelius]

.. I wish Mr Keshe wouldn't do that (use Richter scale numbers that make no sense), it undermines the valuable information & understanding that he has to offer. Hey-ho .. I guess we're not all perfect !

[Ivanhoe]

I'm sorry, I can't buy into this.
Chicken Little comes to mind.
If something of this magnitude was really going to occur, be it earthquake or meteor strike, all that telling anyone about it would do is create fear and hysteria, especially since we can't do anything about it except endure it.
Mass hysteria is worse than the event itself.
It's like yelling fire in a packed theater, everyone rushes for the exit.
Sorry, I think this is nuts, but believe what you want.

[The Truth Seeker]

Just saying but when did we see a continent breakaway before?
because I think that is what Mr Keshe is anticipating, not just a big Quake but an Earthquake moving the upper Northern from the lower Southern continents.

My question here is what size/magnitude would such an event cause? that's a real question!
how do the maths for such an event tally up?
Imaging not just a release of tension (A Quake) but a continent size lump of land moving and not suddenly stopping, so it carries on for some time redesigning the globe?

I would like to know the answer for this as well, from anyone that has experience with geology. This has never happened in human history (pangea did, but that isnt RECORDED history, is it?), so what are the models on things like this? Is there any models? Has no one ever thought that something like this might happen, or do they think that is "impossible" too (like 99% of all the information they receive from their own instruments?)?

As I (and many others), live in the effected areas, the research shows that there have been some extremely large earthquakes on the western side of north america. For example, there is evidence that tsunami inundated the coasts over 100KM inland around the Seattle region. If the current theory that it took millions of years for the initial breakup are incorrect (it is a THEORY...), and there was a "beginning" break, what would that break be equal to in terms of the past recorded history, double? triple? More?

[Snoweagle]

https://youtu.be/pc7622sFPMU (7 min. video)

Published on 09/21/2015

Two weeks ago (Sept 3) while watching Knowledge Seekers Workshop #77, M.T. Keshe warned of multiple 10+ earthquakes for the West Coast of the USA... That video was deleted shortly after that same day. He clarifies further about what he thinks is shortly about to happen..

Actually it appears it hadn't been deleted but simply renumbered to Knowledge Seekers Workshop #79 which happened to be in my associated list of similar videos to watch. I flicked into it and lo there, right at the start is the earthquake commentary in full.
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Why would anyone from the science fraternity make such an outlandish claim about the continents splitting knowing full well his peers would tear him a new arse? Not least the alternative media. Something else is going on here in my opinion.

Keshe is a high energy Physicist not a Geologist. His strongest influence is energy from plasma. This is key to understanding his bizarre claim.

Seismology is the study of mechanical vibration and is only a ratio of proportions to indicate size of an earthquake. It is further locked to standards established on the Earths surface measured in complex laboratories. This establishes "constants" so the relationship of world wide earthquakes can be compared. It is crude. That is a fact.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/topics/measure.php

Dr Claridge of the Electric Universe referred to the electrical (and therefore the magnetic) energy rings that surround the planet all packed full of limitless energy. Those same energy fields exist as we consider the layers of mantle and below. Here Keshe has covered similar ground (now I am comparing his science to the seismic model) by referring to the 2:00:00 mark on this video, he illustrates the transfer of energy between different layers in his "working" unit. Theoretically of course. He loosely describes the problems related to "linking", "conjoining" or whatever these fields are with each other and the problems associated by doing so.

My conjecture is that with a mindset as he has and applying this technique to the principles of Geology is probably indicative of where he "sourced" his outrageous claim. The two sciences here are "chalk and cheese" and he deserves all the criticism received as he is comparing mechanical measurement with that of electricity and magnetism with no "science bridge" between the two. It has made him seem foolish.
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In post #4 @Herve: an assertion has been made that "NO earthquake, NONE can reach such a magnitude due to earth-crust's rocks maximum accumulated energy before break point!" is somewhat misleading. From a mechanical aspect that is very true and is a classic text book answer. However, from an electrical/magnetic point of view, which you will not find in textbooks, these can be alterred remotely and can exceed energy outputs far greater than that measured through calculation or mechanically.

By example I refer to the revelations made by Eric von Daniken in Chariots of the Gods on his research of the Easter Island statues but more specifically the rock characteristics which defied human explanation, as the rock, predominantly basalts (I believe), are the hardest and most dense rocks on planet Earth as researched by the Germans. There has been no official explanation of this oddity. (that I am currently aware of).

So when Bill refers to the "snapping" that I refer to here, is based on our limited knowledge of the actual forces that naturally exist in the environments of earthquakes at the depths of these fault regions underground. For example, basalt on the surface behaves differently from surface sourced as that at 10 or 20km underground for instance. Mankinds knowledge is so limited at this time.

As an end note, I have not watched or participated in any of Keshes work other than the snippet in the OP. I do endorse his field of research though am unable to comment on the quality of his presentations (or products). I know plasma from a different and parallel perspective.

I suspect his familiarity with his audience after 79 (seventy nine!) videos of three hours each summing 250 hours of "education" has perpetrated a sense of the energies involved in these spherical fields, that his almost indifferent geological musings have been taken out of context, quite literally, to tarnish him. Which he deserves in my opinion, as even if he is in contempt of other sciences he should keep it to himself and not perpetrate cross science avarice.

Furthermore, It would be cosmologically impossible to seperate north and south Americas as he stated; the north moving west and the south moving east. As he has no idea how or why they formed as they did. The Pacific tectonic plate has been trying to push them for thousands of years and I do not think for one moment it will succeed now.

[Bill Ryan]

I wish Mr Keshe wouldn't do that (use Richter scale numbers that make no sense), it undermines the valuable information & understanding that he has to offer.

Yes. I've seen this quite a few times in the alternative media and sciences... someone who is a genuine authority on a specialist topic venturing out and making public pronouncements about stuff that is NOT their expertise at all.

Not smart when someone does that: they have everything to lose by looking foolish (or arrogant/unwise) — and almost nothing to gain.

[Snoweagle]

https://youtu.be/pc7622sFPMU (7 min. video)

Published on 09/21/2015

Two weeks ago (Sept 3) while watching Knowledge Seekers Workshop #77, M.T. Keshe warned of multiple 10+ earthquakes for the West Coast of the USA... That video was deleted shortly after that same day. He clarifies further about what he thinks is shortly about to happen..



Just saying but when did we see a continent breakaway before?
because I think that is what Mr Keshe is anticipating, not just a big Quake but an Earthquake moving the upper Northern from the lower Southern continents.

My question here is what size/magnitude would such an event cause? that's a real question!
how do the maths for such an event tally up?
Imaging not just a release of tension (A Quake) but a continent size lump of land moving and not suddenly stopping, so it carries on for some time redesigning the globe?

I would like to know the answer for this as well, from anyone that has experience with geology. This has never happened in human history (pangea did, but that isnt RECORDED history, is it?), so what are the models on things like this? Is there any models? Has no one ever thought that something like this might happen, or do they think that is "impossible" too (like 99% of all the information they receive from their own instruments?)?

As I (and many others), live in the effected areas, the research shows that there have been some extremely large earthquakes on the western side of north america. For example, there is evidence that tsunami inundated the coasts over 100KM inland around the Seattle region. If the current theory that it took millions of years for the initial breakup are incorrect (it is a THEORY...), and there was a "beginning" break, what would that break be equal to in terms of the past recorded history, double? triple? More?

There is no evidence Pangea happened. The whole basis for that assertion is that all the "raised bits" we refer to as continents once fitted together. There is alledged supporting data by association of similar crustal formations on seperate plates which is true but misleading. It's misleading that we consider that this all occured as one overall event and that is untrue.
The continental shelves were caused by one event. The mid Atlantic slit (being the largest) was another. Both eons apart.

The continental shelf pieces that were used to make Pangea also when wrapped around in a ball will complete a perfect sphere though immensely small in compared to the Earths size. This a most important fact to keep in mind. (see the 2 hour mark of Keshe video in post #30). What kind of forces would be involved, at what part of the planet, would have such a significent impact on the surface we know today?

The mid Atlantic split ruptured the Earth. Split right down the middle, north to south, pole alignment. Spewing water from its ventricles even to this day. What science or body of influence could have made such an impact on our planet? Where did the Moon come from? When did it arrive?

The mid Atlantic ridge has been shown to have caused an increase in the seperation of the Americas from the rest from geological records, however, those research findings cannot assert whether the two continents were actually one body. Close together maybe, not sure if that will ever be known.

[Lifebringer]

They'll only chem trail this one too.

[Johnny]

I vaguely remember a prophecy I once read many years ago, something like this: When the South American condor meets the North American Eagle again, then something would happen (don't remember what).

It was about the panama canal would cease to exist. It fits very well with what Keshe said.

Johnny :)

[Hervé]

In post #4 @Herve: an assertion has been made that "NO earthquake, NONE can reach such a magnitude due to earth-crust's rocks maximum accumulated energy before break point!" is somewhat misleading. From a mechanical aspect that is very true and is a classic text book answer. However, from an electrical/magnetic point of view, which you will not find in textbooks, these can be alterred remotely and can exceed energy outputs far greater than that measured through calculation or mechanically.I am not sure what is being referred to when mentioning electrical/magnetic elements applied remotely to rock mechanics at a macro scale? That, I find misleading since what is measured is mechanical wave propagation!


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By example I refer to the revelations made by Eric von Daniken in Chariots of the Gods on his research of the Easter Island statues but more specifically the rock characteristics which defied human explanation, as the rock, predominantly basalts (I believe), are the hardest and most dense rocks on planet Earth as researched by the Germans. There has been no official explanation of this oddity. (that I am currently aware of).Again, I am not sure what revelations are being referred to?

Basalts are what mostly constitute ocean floors, extruded out of mid oceanic volcanic ridges and what Iceland is mainly made of as well as Hawaii (think "Lava Lamps" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lava_lamp)). Dense rock type indeed, but as far as hardness goes, there are more statues (Egypt, etc...) made out of Basalts than ones carved out of Rhyolites (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhyolite) (like trying to carve obsidian). Both are lavas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lava).

As for behaviour of rocks according to depth, the main factors are pressure and, mostly, temperature. These are reproduced in labs to determine the different melt points with respect to mineral/chemical compositions, etc.

Temperature is the main factor and an analogy is to relate it to the effect temperature has on butter. At surface level, all rocks are like butter coming out of a freezer at minus 50 degrees Celsius. One need a hacksaw or a sledge hammer to cut/break it. However, temperature increases with depth and so rocks start changing behaviour and more like warm butter where it becomes more difficult to "break" and easier to spread on one's slice of bread. Even greater depth and it's butter in the frying pan: liquid! These behavioural changes/transitions of rock materials are what was discovered to be "discontinuities" with respect to earthquake average maximum depths and their respective responses to the various seismic waves.

From there, the discoveries that very deep earthquakes are generated by subducted oceanic crusts... because their rate of being heated up is far lower than their rate of being subducted and, as such, retain a "surface," "frozen-butter" brittle behaviour compared to the more plastic/flowing behaviour of the surrounding rocks.

[zen deik]

That would be a whole lot of shaking going on

[Fairy Friend]

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These videos might help with visuals. The first with modelling from climate, types of rocks and fossil records. The second with what is being seen now with literally measuring and with satellite GPS imaging.

[Bubu]

.. I wish Mr Keshe wouldn't do that (use Richter scale numbers that make no sense), it undermines the valuable information & understanding that he has to offer. Hey-ho .. I guess we're not all perfect !

Oh yes nobody is perfect but it shows that he has the inclination to make ridiculous claims. Just as I thought

[Camilo]

I think Keshe's mega quake is a fantasy. (so that he can earn more money)

Perhaps he's in a different timeline.

[TODD & NORA]

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[Neal]

I wish Mr Keshe wouldn't do that (use Richter scale numbers that make no sense), it undermines the valuable information & understanding that he has to offer.

Yes. I've seen this quite a few times in the alternative media and sciences... someone who is a genuine authority on a specialist topic venturing out and making public pronouncements about stuff that is NOT their expertise at all.

Not smart when someone does that: they have everything to lose by looking foolish (or arrogant/unwise) — and almost nothing to gain.

It appears to happen too often, in my opinion. Is it just a trap of the Ego thinking that we, as humans, should always have the answer and should be afraid to simply say, "I don't know"? I've seen this time and time again when mentoring students; they would rather make things up or give incorrect answers than simply admit they didn't know the answer. If there is one thing I know, it is that I know nothing. :biggrin:

It could be a targeted attack to get somebody to tear themselves down in the eye's of the public, too. I would err on the side of caution and say it is an Ego trap...

One thing is for certain, his prediction doesn't make any sense and maybe his internal Red Flag should have been raised.

[Richard S.]

I think Keshe's mega quake is a fantasy. (so that he can earn more money)

And what do Lovespot think ???

Johnny :)

I think that to make incredible claims requires incredible proof.

I also think that Bill and Hervé back their claims with logic.

Mind you, I don't know what expertise of mine mandates my opinion on this subject...

[Selkie]

Mr. Keshe reminds me of someone I know (JLL). In the case of that person, that is not a compliment.

[Sungazerer]

There are an awful lot of doomsday scenarios going around. Simon Parkes explains it quite well in his latest videos. All about creating our reality and the distinction between fear and knowledge. There are quite a few people now consumed by fear and with our super moon looming this might well be by design. I don't know much about this Keshe fella but he says he's the Messiah so there might be a huge clue there.

[Selkie]

There are an awful lot of doomsday scenarios going around. Simon Parkes explains it quite well in his latest videos. All about creating our reality and the distinction between fear and knowledge. There are quite a few people now consumed by fear and with our super moon looming this might well be by design. I don't know much about this Keshe fella but he says he's the Messiah so there might be a huge clue there.

Lot a them Messiahs in them thar hills.

[Lost N Found]

There are an awful lot of doomsday scenarios going around. Simon Parkes explains it quite well in his latest videos. All about creating our reality and the distinction between fear and knowledge. There are quite a few people now consumed by fear and with our super moon looming this might well be by design. I don't know much about this Keshe fella but he says he's the Messiah so there might be a huge clue there.

Lot a them Messiahs in them thar hills.

Is it a dime a dozen? excellant response there Selkie. My question to any predictions or out right statements about what is coming or happening in this near future is who the hell has the time machine and when do we get to actually see it for real? I see this, all things are in the present, even the past is in doubt other than someones own mind in writing or telling. The Future is now ups now we just became the future, Oh crap another future just happened, Oh crap again we are still in the present. Mr Keshe, Mr. Parks, or any of these modern day gurus are just there to suck whomever into their own beliefs of what is going to happen. Guess what folks, how much money are these gurus making off our backs by doing this. I would say you yourself can look at what is happening around you and make your own determination of where you feel you should be going into your future or present. We do not need some guru or MSM service telling us what we should be doing. Not saying that one can not listen to a very intelligent individual talk about what they may think of the movement of time and why we may at least want to look at some facts. Just saying that, As Selkie has said, "Lot of them Messiahs in them thar hills". Show me a time machine please, Let me see the FUTURE please.

Truth be told, Give me your money and I will tell you whatever you want to hear. Hey! fear is the meal of the day. Oh by the way, I am a new ager and I will tell you how I am channeling to give you positive stuff. S***.

[Kazba]

Keshe appears to be genuine with his progressive open source disclosure of plasma physics based technology. However, I am intrigued at the declarations Mr Keshe has made at http://www.keshefoundation.org/new-horizons/peace-roadmap. Here is an excerpt:


With this gap of three months from 21st of June 2015 to September of 2015, we give governments themselves a chance to start the process of re-allocation of the works of military factories and arms producing companies to the production of new systems of the new technology for peace, so that jobs can be preserved.

With this roadmap, we call upon all Keshe Foundation supporters to allow all national leaders and spiritual leaders of your communities and as many citizens to be aware of our intention to start the peace process, starting from the 21st of June of 2015.


If within the first three months we do not see any movement with this process amongst the world leaders, we will begin the process of showing the power of the technology and our wish to start the process of peace, as one nation, one planet, and one Keshe Foundation family.

In this process of enforcing peace, we shall not harm anyone or any soul, we shall not cause any structural damage or any physical or financial losses to any nation. But we will stop warships on the high seas, and decommission fighter planes of all nations on the runways, we will erase the memory of so called men of arms, that they shall not remember why they are carrying arms and what they were fighting for.


In connection with the mentioning of the continental separation of North and South America, I also found this video on YouTube where Keshe is talking to a foundation member living in the Dominican Republic. A very sobering analysis. There was also an eery moment for me 32:01 into the video where he was asked how many could be rescued and his reply was "some people will have to pay for their deeds".
https://youtu.be/JrtHbc-LCnY

I suspect the event he describes and his intentions with regard to some sort of enforcement of peace should be looked at carefully.

[Snoweagle]

In post #4 @Herve: an assertion has been made that "NO earthquake, NONE can reach such a magnitude due to earth-crust's rocks maximum accumulated energy before break point!" is somewhat misleading. From a mechanical aspect that is very true and is a classic text book answer. However, from an electrical/magnetic point of view, which you will not find in textbooks, these can be alterred remotely and can exceed energy outputs far greater than that measured through calculation or mechanically.I am not sure what is being referred to when mentioning electrical/magnetic elements applied remotely to rock mechanics at a macro scale? That, I find misleading since what is measured is mechanical wave propagation!


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By example I refer to the revelations made by Eric von Daniken in Chariots of the Gods on his research of the Easter Island statues but more specifically the rock characteristics which defied human explanation, as the rock, predominantly basalts (I believe), are the hardest and most dense rocks on planet Earth as researched by the Germans. There has been no official explanation of this oddity. (that I am currently aware of).Again, I am not sure what revelations are being referred to?

Basalts are what mostly constitute ocean floors, extruded out of mid oceanic volcanic ridges and what Iceland is mainly made of as well as Hawaii (think "Lava Lamps" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lava_lamp)). Dense rock type indeed, but as far as hardness goes, there are more statues (Egypt, etc...) made out of Basalts than ones carved out of Rhyolites (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhyolite) (like trying to carve obsidian). Both are lavas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lava).

As for behaviour of rocks according to depth, the main factors are pressure and, mostly, temperature. These are reproduced in labs to determine the different melt points with respect to mineral/chemical compositions, etc.

Temperature is the main factor and an analogy is to relate it to the effect temperature has on butter. At surface level, all rocks are like butter coming out of a freezer at minus 50 degrees Celsius. One need a hacksaw or a sledge hammer to cut/break it. However, temperature increases with depth and so rocks start changing behaviour and more like warm butter where it becomes more difficult to "break" and easier to spread on one's slice of bread. Even greater depth and it's butter in the frying pan: liquid! These behavioural changes/transitions of rock materials are what was discovered to be "discontinuities" with respect to earthquake average maximum depths and their respective responses to the various seismic waves.

From there, the discoveries that very deep earthquakes are generated by subducted oceanic crusts... because their rate of being heated up is far lower than their rate of being subducted and, as such, retain a "surface," "frozen-butter" brittle behaviour compared to the more plastic/flowing behaviour of the surrounding rocks.

Seismology is a MECHANICAL process and the measurement system promotes the profile of the science. All based on interpreting vibration patterns conditioned by regional geographical "constants". The analysis of which are virtually all based on mechanical sciences with assertions made through "guess" mathematics of statistics. Seismology is quite unable to predict accurately forthcoming geological events with this mechanical process.

The Richter scale is based on the seismic data and produces a mechanical and kinetic "estimation" post event and is a "comparative" scale. It is entirely manufactured to measure the impacts at the level that would impact the economic status of our world. In cosmological terms the Richter scale is insignificant. The entire focus is underpinned throughout by mechanical measurements digitally (these days) converted into signals that we can understand and processed. Accumulative error throughout.

Keshe is a high energy physicist promoting and apparently providing free courses online into the fields of plasma. In this science, the mechanical process is irrelevant. In fact arguably, the plasma process preceeds ANY measureable medium. Keshe has also already given 70+ 3hour classes to a loyal and dedicated (phew) band of followers or more respectfully, students and I am quite sure he had at some time already mentioned to them the scale and the dangers of working in this plasma field. I suspect WE have picked up on the "tail end" of plasma comparisons to other science 'ology standards.

@Herve Plasma energy combines ALL the elements. The scale available is beyond the scope of man to measure. Kehse I assume has represented fundamental science concepts away from "our" standard track through the sciences, as you would expect i suppose. The point here is he is measuring the electrical element throughout which is magnitudes greater than the kinetic mechanical model of seismology.

Returning to the OP, I agree with everyone else, it is profoundly wrong for a teacher to compare attributes of one discipline over another in such derogatory tones, whether or not true as it instills the same "fabric" of tense to the listener, particularly obedient "acolytes".

Who believes in an Electric Universe? Really?
Define the following in terms into the electrical and magnetic components. Heat, temperature, flowers, pressure, basalt, trees, sandstone, pvc, air, water, eye-ball, cylinder head or pick something yourself and define everything relevant about it and define it in electrical and magnetic terms.

When you complete your EM Atlas of Existence, you will see the relevance of Kehses flippant and arrogant mood as I believe it wasn't said in contempt but frustration at the battle he fronts against the old guard that has science and engineering lagging fifty years behind the dark sciences.

[jaybee]

Keshe appears to be genuine with his progressive open source disclosure of plasma physics based technology. However, I am intrigued at the declarations Mr Keshe has made at http://www.keshefoundation.org/new-horizons/peace-roadmap. Here is an excerpt:


With this gap of three months from 21st of June 2015 to September of 2015, we give governments themselves a chance to start the process of re-allocation of the works of military factories and arms producing companies to the production of new systems of the new technology for peace, so that jobs can be preserved.

With this roadmap, we call upon all Keshe Foundation supporters to allow all national leaders and spiritual leaders of your communities and as many citizens to be aware of our intention to start the peace process, starting from the 21st of June of 2015.


If within the first three months we do not see any movement with this process amongst the world leaders, we will begin the process of showing the power of the technology and our wish to start the process of peace, as one nation, one planet, and one Keshe Foundation family.

In this process of enforcing peace, we shall not harm anyone or any soul, we shall not cause any structural damage or any physical or financial losses to any nation. But we will stop warships on the high seas, and decommission fighter planes of all nations on the runways, we will erase the memory of so called men of arms, that they shall not remember why they are carrying arms and what they were fighting for.


In connection with the mentioning of the continental separation of North and South America, I also found this video on YouTube where Keshe is talking to a foundation member living in the Dominican Republic. A very sobering analysis. There was also an eery moment for me 32:01 into the video where he was asked how many could be rescued and his reply was "some people will have to pay for their deeds".
https://youtu.be/JrtHbc-LCnY

I suspect the event he describes and his intentions with regard to some sort of enforcement of peace should be looked at carefully.

Thanks for the comments and the video - I have only just become aware of these predictions of Keshe's although I am very much into what he is doing and teaching in general.. I find that I am my own search engine regarding all things Keshe :) and that my mind is doing an automatic/unconscious scan on the information I need to take me further - and this takes into account the time I have to allocate myself to it all to avoid overload -

there is soooooo much - he has embarked on a HUGE project ... but it must be very satisfying to be putting something like all this together even if it has all taken 40 years - some people manage to go 40 years without achieving much or even anything at all - ?

Re all this about the Earth changes and earthquakes - well for as long as I can remember there has been talk of the 'Big One' hitting California - so something along these lines has been expected for a long time -

From the video..
Keshe says that it is his own personal opinion about what he is saying - but he does say that he's done it before and says Fukushima was one of his 'hits'..? I have heard that he has been very involved with trying to help the pollution in Japan with his technology - but apparently there has been some shenanigans with it all to do with the Japanese government not least because Keshe is a nuclear scientist and there are international 'rules' about working with Iranian nuclear scientists..

To be honest - I am not too bothered about these predictions and the backlash that they have created - time will tell - and I do wonder if something may be 'being done' to try and save California..? As I said there have been predictions for a long time that a Big One was on the way or over due...maybe they ARE trying to stop it in some way...I mean it would make sense the the people who know about it and work in this field would try to do everything they could - perhaps HAARP (or similar) can be used to create smaller earthquakes around the rim to alleviate the pressure build up? dunno... ?

Keshe has got a lot of stick by speaking about all this but it is only a small part of what he says and teaches/shares...

I came upon this link with a video when I was searching for something to do with the Keshe Foundation and it gives a useful overview of practically the whole thing -for anyone who wants to look further than these predictions .

https://lightworkersxm.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/keshe-foundation-settle-down-for-some-real-news-treat-your-body-like-a-galaxy-we-have-new-technology-that-does-not-need-fuel-coming-soon-to-your-area/

[edit - that's weird the link doesn't show up on the post any more for me and when I tried to edit and add it again it didn't go on..don't know if that's the same for everyone..hey ho]

Anyway besides talking about what might happen he is also trying to invent and produce things to help alleviate the suffering that might ensue - which is more than can be said about the US Government (unless they ARE doing more in secret than collecting a load of coffins)??? But to be fair perhaps they ARE working in secret to stop it happening or stop it being so big?



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This was recorded a while back because there were 'problems' (very serious problems I think) and interference with the Keshe Foundation Centre being in Belgium and they have now moved to Italy...



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[jaybee]

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edit...re. me going on about the link...I restarted my computer and I can see it now ...must have been a blip..


ok - I'm going to give that link another try...

it's from LIGHTWORKERSXM..

edit {nope ~ it didn't work again but this is what it said } ~~~


https://lightworkersxm.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/keshe-foundation-settle-down-for-some-real-news-treat-your-body-like-a-galaxy-we-have-new-technology-that-does-not-need-fuel-coming-soon-to-your-area/



Keshe Foundation : Travel with no wheel : mach 1.2 or 3 is a joke more like mach 35-40 :Cure any disease with plasma frequency : SCIENCE NEEDS TO BE RETAUGHT : We have new technology That is coming our way Soon


Can anyone get our Ministers to look at this?

Dr Keshe explaining his Science his way, Here are the highlights to his long but life changing video after his conference in Belgium.

THIS IS SO IMPORTANT I CANNOT EXPLAIN ANY MORE:

1) Magnetism and Plasmatronics and counter gravity is here.

2)It is Real and it is suppressed technology China Iran and Russia now have this technology so too does Belgium and Holland.

3) Health benefits of using a replicator to create Vitamins as a plasmatron,

4) Any disease that has not even been generated yet , can be eradicated.

5) NASA ( controlled by NAZIS to save their skin after WW2) built old technology spacecraft This technology is not needed any more.

6) Science will need to be retaught Full stop Period.

7) His arrest ( Dr Keshe) by Canadian Authorities was a planned controlled operation and they confiscated all his belongings.

8) following his arrest Dr Keshe published everything taken from him, on the internet.

9) Mach 35- 40 with wheel-less cars is possible on Earth but no more that, it is earths limit for humans ( I WANT ONE NOW ).

10) Space suits are not needed in space with plasma gravity magnet-tronics you go to that frequency.

11) Magnets can be bi polar or single north polar at all sides These Mono-polar elements create permanent oscillation IE free energy!

12) Create or replicate your own water from the atmosphere no matter where you are.

13) Weightlessness in space in not necessary we just replicate that atmosphere and live with in it.

14) Mars travel and well beyond is now a matter of time here from earth with this application of technology.

15) Lady wakes from coma with these frequencies to the astonishment of hospitals.

16) Reprocessing the body to eat and drink as the body demands is now possible in plasma circles.

17) no need for hunger or drought.

18) no person on earth should be without this concept principle and devices should be world wide.

19) Plasma is a cell and we use the energy inside that atom and when we have used it we replace it in the atom and have damaged nothing, this is clean energy and Fukushima can be cleaned out at the correct frequency.

20) CO2 fro m air ( the vacuum of space) could produce anything in a replicatior IE: a solid steel tube.

21) then he makes a lit torch out of it a few days out of the energy of the earth.

22) Light can make anything from more light to food , from earth for example, it is strong and can reproduce anything , in space it needs to find it as it is more scarce.

23) His lights do not go out unless disconnected manually.

24) In space we do not need to take anything with us NOTHING except this technology, and we can thrive where ever.

25) No need for physical body for space and just energy only , the body will only interact with our cells.

26) Once you understand the structure of the universe we can then see ,,it is not possible to be alone in this galaxay.

27) this universe is split out of these atoms , the same process more bigger gravitational field, So we are part of universal cosmos.

28) We are one with all other ancestors and no way we can be alone , this technology proves it.

29) Crossing the universe is only a matter of a split second in human terms with this anti matter condition or transition energy.

30) Principle matter or anti matter will come forward with this technology and our body can a-tune to different dimentiality with light as a portable plasma.

31) Light is a plasma shape form and changes “its jacket” so to speak and the light is due to the friction of the tool which is energy based on friction generated inside.

32) The dark matter or sourcefields of energy are everywhere in the universe and are reachable with this technology.

33) The current killing by our rulers will not be allowed to have this technology and this is Pandoras Box for real.

34) The BIG BANG THEORY is NONSENSE and the reality is EXPLAINED .

35) Dr Keshe classic Quote ” This technology will not cause damage in any way to any body or living creature” .

36) That will do for now please do not miss any part of this world record interview and the content is outstanding.

[Hervé]

In post #4 @Herve: an assertion has been made that "NO earthquake, NONE can reach such a magnitude due to earth-crust's rocks maximum accumulated energy before break point!" is somewhat misleading. From a mechanical aspect that is very true and is a classic text book answer. However, from an electrical/magnetic point of view, which you will not find in textbooks, these can be alterred remotely and can exceed energy outputs far greater than that measured through calculation or mechanically.I am not sure what is being referred to when mentioning electrical/magnetic elements applied remotely to rock mechanics at a macro scale? That, I find misleading since what is measured is mechanical wave propagation!


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By example I refer to the revelations made by Eric von Daniken in Chariots of the Gods on his research of the Easter Island statues but more specifically the rock characteristics which defied human explanation, as the rock, predominantly basalts (I believe), are the hardest and most dense rocks on planet Earth as researched by the Germans. There has been no official explanation of this oddity. (that I am currently aware of).Again, I am not sure what revelations are being referred to?

[...]

Seismology is a MECHANICAL process and the measurement system promotes the profile of the science. All based on interpreting vibration patterns conditioned by regional geographical "constants". The analysis of which are virtually all based on mechanical sciences with assertions made through "guess" mathematics of statistics. Seismology is quite unable to predict accurately forthcoming geological events with this mechanical process.
[...]


My "guess" is that introducing something that hasn't been recorded ever is even a bigger "guess." Since, in the event of such use of "plasma" influence, it's still affecting rocks and therefore their inherent "mechanics" and said rocks are limited in their accumulation of energy until rupture/break/yield point.

If not, then no one is talking "earthquake" anymore but "bombs" and shock waves as is suspected with the "Boxing Day" Aceh and the Fukushima tsunamis.



[...]
@Herve Plasma energy combines ALL the elements. The scale available is beyond the scope of man to measure.
[...]Great!

Even Nikola Tesla didn't invoke nor use "plasma" or an electrical universe to create his "earthquake machine," just a mechanical resonance contraption to get buildings rocking.

But, even in the Tesla case, one cannot "resonate" a whole city beyond said city's construction materials rupture points nor earth-crust rupture point or else we are not dealing with concrete or "rocks" anymore but some elastic material. But, then, again, one is not dealing with earthquakes anymore either, but something entirely and completely different.

[Johnny]

It seems as if Keshe is obviously not the only one with this theory:

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Johnny :)